Martha gets Jail Time!

[Casshew]

5 months and 2 years probation!

[Newswolf]

And did she ever look pee-ohed.

[Casshew]

Well 5 month is better than a year ++ :eek: can you imagine?

I wonder if she will get a minimum security... solitary for her protection? any special perks?

[Newswolf]

It's considered most likely she would go to the fed pen at Dunbury CT which is female and minimum security. She's free till her appeal is heard which the CTV lawyers said means at least a year. Anyway here's a story about what Danbury is like.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2001877291_martha12.html

"Her living situation would depend on whether she is assigned to Danbury's barracks-style prison camp or traditional cellblock housing. Either way, the queen of fine living would find things very different at Danbury.

She would be ordered to turn over all belongings upon arrival. Wedding bands are allowed, although Stewart is divorced. She would be strip-searched.

"There's a guard. It's not too private. It's in this little alcove," said Joyce Ellwanger, 67, of Milwaukee, who served time last year for the same protest as Hartjes. "The guard will tell you to squat and cough. Your clothes will be sent home."

Stewart then would receive her room assignment.

"When you hear this door slam behind you, you walk into a place full of sadness, bitterness and emptiness," said Susan McDougal, who served time in several prisons — though not Danbury — for refusing to testify in the Whitewater investigation.

"She's going to spend the first part of her time realizing life pretty much is over. You're getting broken down," McDougal said. "You understand that you're on somebody else's schedule, somebody else is in charge and nothing is yours."

If there is room in the 200-person prison camp and her probation officer's report recommends it, Stewart would be sent there. If not, she would be sent either to a two-person cell or to a shared cubicle within a wide-open dormitory.

The walls are plain concrete and cannot be decorated. Inmates can personalize their space by hanging up to four photographs in their lockers. Stewart, who advises visitors to her Web site to search out bed linens with high thread counts, would not enjoy such luxuries"

She's tough, probably do a book. I feel sorry for her assistant who doesn't have her resources.

[Show Me]

Seriously, if Martha indeed goes to a tough prison maybe she will give classes to the other prison ladies to pass the time.

[CARLA]

:cool: Martha will do just fine. :) She didn't get to the top in a mans world by being a push over..!~! :snooty: She will have to adjust no doubt. She will be in for a rude awakening true... :eek: She will adjust and move on..!! :cool: SHE IS MARTHA STEWART... TOUGH AS THEY COME..!! :cool:

HI SHOW ME..!! HOW YOU DOING KIDDO..!! :blowkiss:

[BarnGoddess]

Checked out Bloomberg Info....she gets 5 months in prison and five months home confinement. Has to wear "bracelet" the last five months. Must spend 1 full day confined at home each day and can spend 48 hours outside. Can go to work, church, etc. Her attorneys wanted the judge to suspend the bracelet, but she said no, she had to wear bracelet that monitors her whereabouts.

[Sprocket]

Maybe, just before she heads to the big house, Martha will make a very generous donation of new towels and linens, for each inmate. That way, when she gets there, she will have her own comfy sheets! :D

[Casshew]

Sprocky... even the finest sheets won't add much comfort on a 2 inch foam mattress!

[Nancy Drew]

I predict Martha will not only do fine, but she will emerge as even more formidable of a business competitor. She's going down as one of the premier women of our time.

She's even going to teach us how to take the knocks in stride. :)

[vicktor]

Its the principle of the thing. For someone worth millions, she tried to save $150,000 on some insignificant stock that happened to be connected to a friend of hers. I say let her do the time. She'll be a celebrity with guards and inmates alike. Probably won't have to put up with the insults and fights and come-ons other inmates have to.

[Sprocket]

Sprocky... even the finest sheets won't add much comfort on a 2 inch foam mattress!
Your so right Cass! I forgot! She could also make a generous donation of new mattresses for every inmate, as well as those "memory foam" mattress pads! I just love mine. :D

[Sprocket]

I predict Martha will not only do fine, but she will emerge as even more formidable of a business competitor. She's going down as one of the premier women of our time.

She's even going to teach us how to take the knocks in stride. :)
imho, she's a Borderline Personality. More proof for my opinion: her statements on the courthouse steps, after she was sentenced.

[vicktor]

imho, she's a Borderline Personality.

What does her personality border? What is she similar to, or what is her behavior similar to with regard to other dysfunctional people?

[Sprocket]

What does her personality border? What is she similar to, or what is her behavior similar to with regard to other dysfunctional people?
I've spoken on this subject many times. You can find my post on Cluster B's in the PL, buried several pages back. Imho, I believe Martha Stewart has Borderline Personality Disorder. BPD. Classification: APA DSM-IV & DSM-IV-TR Axis II, (Cluster B). Other Cluster B's: AntiSocial Personality Disorder (APD; aka sociopath; psychopath); Narcisistic Personality Disorder (NPD); Histronic Personality Disorder (HPD). These are disorders, they are not mental illnesses.

Hope that clears up any confusion you may have had, about my post. :D

[deputylinda]

martha will appear on larry king live tonight, monday july 19, to speak about her sentencing. (maybe we should merge the 3 martha threads?) martha may well be in protective or administrative custody so she does not have to be exposed to the other inmates, for various reasons.

[BirdieBoo]

I wonder if Kenneth Lay (of Enron) will ever do any jail time? IMO Martha is being made an example for being a successful woman in the men's game of big business. Martha is one tough cookie.

[Casshew]

martha will appear on larry king live tonight, monday july 19, to speak about her sentencing. (maybe we should merge the 3 martha threads?) martha may well be in protective or administrative custody so she does not have to be exposed to the other inmates, for various reasons.
Thanks for the heads up DL ~ I would like to see that!

[vicktor]

I wonder if Kenneth Lay (of Enron) will ever do any jail time? IMO Martha is being made an example for being a successful woman in the men's game of big business.

Sam Waksal was the head of the company in which Stewart had the stock she tried to unload. He was found guilty of a number of things related manipulating his company stock after learning inside info. He got something like 4-5 years. Without all his cohorts testifying that he had info, Lay probably won't be convicted of anything major.

[BirdieBoo]

Sam Waksal was the head of the company in which Stewart had the stock she tried to unload. He was found guilty of a number of things related manipulating his company stock after learning inside info. He got something like 4-5 years. Without all his cohorts testifying that he had info, Lay probably won't be convicted of anything major.

Martha was not found guilty of manipulating stock. She was charged with obstructiion of justice.

Lea Fastow, the wife of enron's CFO has already been sentenced.

Ladies before "gentlemen" and all that jazz.

[Sprocket]

From Newsweek, 7/26/04 issue:

To weary advertisers, it seems like Stewart's rebound will never come. Says Deutsch, Inc. ad exec Peter Gardiner: "You wish she'd just say, "I made a mistake, I'm doing my time and then we can move on." Martha isn't ready to move on. Hours after her sentencing, she went on ABC with Barbara Walters to compare herself to Nelson Mandela and insist: "I didn't cheat the little people. We're all the little people. Maybe. But for now at least, accepting responsibility for human failings is beyond the skills of the queen of perfection."

NELSON MANDELA? WT....? We're all the little people? Last time I looked Martha, I didn't live on a 153 acre estate. How she can compare herself to the average american is beyond me. MORE proof this woman is BPD!

[LinasK]

From Newsweek, 7/26/04 issue:

To weary advertisers, it seems like Stewart's rebound will never come. Says Deutsch, Inc. ad exec Peter Gardiner: "You wish she'd just say, "I made a mistake, I'm doing my time and then we can move on." Martha isn't ready to move on. Hours after her sentencing, she went on ABC with Barbara Walters to compare herself to Nelson Mandela and insist: "I didn't cheat the little people. We're all the little people. Maybe. But for now at least, accepting responsibility for human failings is beyond the skills of the queen of perfection."

NELSON MANDELA? WT....? We're all the little people? Last time I looked Martha, I didn't live on a 153 acre estate. How she can compare herself to the average american is beyond me. MORE proof this woman is BPD!
Sounds alot like Leona Helmsley to me, the other queen of mean!!!:snooty:

[mysteriew]

she now states she intends on writhing a book on how to get through this type of situation. how to choose a lawyer, go through an interview, etc.
wonder what she will call the book? graceful incarceration, maybe. I hear that danbury inmates are eager for her admission. they have been joking that after her admission they expect to get better food. seriously, wouldn't it be ironic if she ended up running the prisons food service dept before she left?

[vicktor]

NELSON MANDELA? WT....? We're all the little people? Last time I looked Martha, I didn't live on a 153 acre estate. How she can compare herself to the average american is beyond me. MORE proof this woman is BPD!

Anything to avoid saying those 5 little words. I did it, I'm sorry.

[Newswolf]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/nm/20040915/bs_nm/crime_marthastewart

Lifestyle guru Martha Stewart (news - web sites) said on Wednesday she wants to serve her prison sentence for lying over a suspicious stock sale as soon as possible, so she can put her "nightmare" behind her.
"I want to put this nightmare behind me," said Stewart, who built a business empire on home decorating tips. "I want to reclaim my good life and good works."
In a surprise announcement, Stewart -- convicted in March and later sentenced to five months in jail and five months of house arrest -- said through tears she hoped to be a free woman by March, so she can plant her spring garden.
Stewart said she did not want to wait for the appeal process, which could take a year, and wanted instead to reclaim her good name and her personal and professional life as soon as possible.
"While I and my attorneys firmly believe in the strength of (my) appeal, recent delays and extensions have now made it abundantly clear that my appeal will not be heard until sometime next year. So I have decided to serve my sentence now," Stewart told reporters in a brief appearance during which she was composed but shed some tears.
Stewart, who made her name giving decorating tips to Americans for holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas, said she was sad to miss the festive season this year.
"I am very sad that I will miss the holiday seasons Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years -- always an opportunity to celebrate family, friends and religious traditions that mean so much to many of us," she said.
~~

I only saw part of this news conference - missed the teary stuff- but she did seem less haughty and cold -actually mentioned her daughter and the people who work for her company. Her statement was a little more carefully crafted than the one she gave upon conviction.

[Casshew]

Wow... I wonder how quickly is quickly? Can the judge comply and send her in right away??

[Sprocket]

I agree. The statement was more crafted. MAYBE, her advisers are telling her, the longer she delays this, the worse it looks for her, and now she's playing the part (poorly, imho) of the martyr .....doing her "time" over the holidays that she so enjoys and will miss dearly......so that she and her company can "move on."

Yawn.

[deputylinda]

i think she is making a mistake. she could wait for her appeal and not miss the holidays...her mother is 90 and it could be her last Christmas, who knows? not a comment on her guilt, just from legal standpoint this is ill-advised decision. as well as for her mother's sake. JMO. (assuming dept. of corrections wants her surrender and/or judge wants to remand her).

[Newswolf]

I can't find any story that says how immediately the judge could send her off.

But CTV has a video link on its front page for the news conference if anyone wants to watch that.

[Casshew]

Sprocky... I thought you would like Martha... you are a crafty chick :)

[Dark Knight]

i think she is making a mistake. she could wait for her appeal and not miss the holidays...her mother is 90 and it could be her last Christmas, who knows? not a comment on her guilt, just from legal standpoint this is ill-advised decision. as well as for her mother's sake. JMO. (assuming dept. of corrections wants her surrender and/or judge wants to remand her).
No, it just proves what a cold-hearted B**** she is.

[Jeana (DP)]

i think she is making a mistake. she could wait for her appeal and not miss the holidays...her mother is 90 and it could be her last Christmas, who knows? not a comment on her guilt, just from legal standpoint this is ill-advised decision. as well as for her mother's sake. JMO. (assuming dept. of corrections wants her surrender and/or judge wants to remand her).


Maybe she hates her mom and doesn't care????? I think its a good decision. I think the chances for her appeal being successful are slim to none. Why not just get it done and over with? They may require for her to drop any pending appeals before they'll allow her to start her sentence. That's the only problem I can foresee.

[Casshew]

No, it just proves what a cold-hearted B**** she is.
Now was that a Christian thing to say? :slap:

turn the other cheek DK :D

[Dark Knight]

Now was that a Christian thing to say? :slap:

turn the other cheek DK :D
I only have so many cheeks.

[Jeana (DP)]

I only have so many cheeks.


Can you count all four cheeks or just the ones on your face? :angel: :angel: :angel: :blushing:

[Jeana (DP)]

By the way, there's an article in the newspaper where she actually kinda compares herself to Nelson Mandela:

Stewart said she would have no problem doing the time.

"I could do it," she said in an interview with ABC. "I'm a really good camper. ... There are many, many good people who have gone to prison. Look at Nelson Mandela."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/091504dnbusstewart.275ae.html

[Ivy]

Martha wasn't convicted for insider trading. She was convicted for lying to investigators by saying she didn't do it. What kind of wacky justice is that? Am I the only one who thinks there's something wrong with this picture?

I have never been a fan of Martha's and don't like the way it's been reported that she often treats people, but I firmly believe the case was brought against her because she's a powerful woman, and certain powerful men thought she needed to be put in her place.

[NewMom2003]

Martha wasn't convicted for insider trading. She was convicted for lying to investigators by saying she didn't do it. What kind of wacky justice is that? Am I the only one who thinks there's something wrong with this picture?

I have never been a fan of Martha's and don't like the way it's been reported that she often treats people, but I firmly believe the case was brought against her because she's a powerful woman, and certain powerful men thought she needed to be put in her place.

I agree with you. I'm not a fan of hers either, but I think something is wrong here. I'm not saying this woman is a saint by any means, but jail time over this???? The sad thing is that I think most people do think it's insider trading that she's been convicted of and I think her career will be forever damaged.

[Dark Knight]

I agree with you. I'm not a fan of hers either, but I think something is wrong here. I'm not saying this woman is a saint by any means, but jail time over this???? The sad thing is that I think most people do think it's insider trading that she's been convicted of and I think her career will be forever damaged.
They don't want people to lie to Federal Investigators. You know what they say, don't scr*w with the Government!!! It was a felony, and she got the MINIMUM sentence possible according to the sentencing guidlines. She got off easier than most anyone else found guilty of that crime.

[Dark Knight]

Can you count all four cheeks or just the ones on your face? :angel: :angel: :angel: :blushing:
LOL! Some days I need every cheek I can find, LOL!

[Dark Knight]

By the way, there's an article in the newspaper where she actually kinda compares herself to Nelson Mandela:

Stewart said she would have no problem doing the time.

"I could do it," she said in an interview with ABC. "I'm a really good camper. ... There are many, many good people who have gone to prison. Look at Nelson Mandela."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/091504dnbusstewart.275ae.html
Yeah, whatever public support she had basically disappeared after that asinine comment. She tried to explain it away later, but give me a break! Shows that she just doesn't "get it."

[Jeana (DP)]

LOL! Some days I need every cheek I can find, LOL!

You and me both buddy!! LOL

[Sprocket]

Sprocky... I thought you would like Martha... you are a crafty chick :) I've never denied she is a big creative talent; and a very sharp business woman. Heck, I have martha colors on my walls, and will probably repaint with her colors.

However, that doesn't change my opinion about her personality.

[Casshew]

I've never denied she is a big creative talent; and a very sharp business woman. Heck, I have martha colors on my walls, and will probably repaint with her colors.

However, that doesn't change my opinion about her personality.
Interesting! because I heard that she absolutely adores you :blowkiss:

[BirdieBoo]

Martha wasn't convicted for insider trading. She was convicted for lying to investigators by saying she didn't do it. What kind of wacky justice is that? Am I the only one who thinks there's something wrong with this picture?

I have never been a fan of Martha's and don't like the way it's been reported that she often treats people, but I firmly believe the case was brought against her because she's a powerful woman, and certain powerful men thought she needed to be put in her place.Yes. I agree. Where is Ken Lay? Not headed for jail anytime soon.

[BirdieBoo]

They don't want people to lie to Federal Investigators. You know what they say, don't scr*w with the Government!!! It was a felony, and she got the MINIMUM sentence possible according to the sentencing guidlines. She got off easier than most anyone else found guilty of that crime.
Who are other famous people found guilty of that crime?

[MysteryMomma]

I think Martha should have started her time as soon as she was convicted. I believe she is trying to bring back some of her magazines big advertizers. Put this sentence behind her and move on, if she wins the appeal all the better for her, she will appear brave........

I do think she was harshly punished for lying to the government......many men on wall street have done worse and never even got prosecuted. Her past bad behavior and arrogance made her a target. Too bad only men can get away with being tough......

[Bhodirasta]

Martha wasn't convicted for insider trading. She was convicted for lying to investigators by saying she didn't do it. What kind of wacky justice is that? Am I the only one who thinks there's something wrong with this picture?

I have never been a fan of Martha's and don't like the way it's been reported that she often treats people, but I firmly believe the case was brought against her because she's a powerful woman, and certain powerful men thought she needed to be put in her place.


I am TOTALLY with you here Ivy.
and one reason there "is something wrong with this picture is because of what BirdieBoo said...

Where is Ken Lay? Not headed for jail anytime soon.

This is just whacked.
I am NO DOMESTICATED GENIUS by any stretch of the imagination, I own nothing that she makes.
Enron not only stole thousands and thousands of lives (I have PLENTY of friends in Houston) but also millions and millions of dollars...
this is ridiculous.

I DO NOT think MS was COMPARING herself to Nelson Mandela people (REALLY) I think she was using him as a person to look up to that had gone to jail= (if you have never been faced with jail time- pls. try to refrain from harsh judgements)
She was HORRIFIED. She was trying to gather her strength. She was in front of millions and she was reacting (as ALL of us do, except for the ones on the brink of 'mastery') upon the emotion that FEAR caused. Can you imagine talking to millions right after you found out that you would spend 5 months in jail????? (the time faced doesn't really matter- it is the fear of JAIL)
I think she is a smart business woman.
I think she needs and needed to be strong for her to get to where she is.
She is a roll model for women entrepreneurs anywhere.
If you say she isn't a roll model,
think again.

She tells em' how ta "get er done..."
She has thrived in her male dominated coorperate 'world'.
This world can include, for those in her VERY unique and rare postition,
discrimination, sexual harassment, abuse (a lot of women are paid less than men in the same positons, on that particular level)
Women can be made the "target", (I DEFINITELY think she has)
etc etc etc.
I think she has done well.
I am not saying I like her. I am saying she is "making it easier for women in a man's world" and I RESPECT her for that.

I am sure she will have the time to read some good books.
Nelson Mandela came out a better man. Ghandi. Heck,
the Dalai Lama would be in prison today had he stayed in Tibet. (FREE TIBET!!)
I don't understand why some people are so hard on her.
She lied. So have you. And if you are judging the calibre, or (level???) of the lie,
you sit in judment.
Which is worse-
Being overly judmental to the point of creating anger,
or a liar?
I am not sure which one- but I would try my best to be neither, and that is what I am trying to do.

[deputylinda]

martha will report to prison on october 8.

[peggy]

So looks like she will be out by next Spring and can get on with her life. Wish her the best, prison is not a place anyone wants to visit, but believe she will do okay.

[Newswolf]

http://www.thekcrachannel.com/money/3769666/detail.html

Martha Stewart is heading for "Camp Cupcake."
Stewart will serve her five-month prison term at a West Virginia facility -- not one in Connecticut or Florida, as she had hoped.
~~~~~
A source said it was picked because of its remote location -- amid fears the facilities Stewart chose were too media-accessible.
~~~~

Sort of ironic, Cupcake.

[Jamie Standifer]

I predict Martha will not only do fine, but she will emerge as even more formidable of a business competitor. She's going down as one of the premier women of our time.

She's even going to teach us how to take the knocks in stride. :)
ms will come out and create a new fortune. whatever made her
rich the first time won't be lost...jmho

[Jeana (DP)]

She's not broke. Not by any stretch of the imagination. She's worth less than she was before, but she's still in the multi millions. I don't think she'll be eating boxed macaroni and cheese or pork and beans (or whatever they eat) during her lifetime.

[BirdieBoo]

I heard on the news that she's going to be working in landscape maintenance or food service while in prison. I think she is wise to get it over with. She is one tough cookie and will be even stronger when she comes out: I predict she will make a big comeback upon her release.

[Casshew]

:eek:



ALDERSON, West Virginia (Reuters) - Trendsetter Martha Stewart has arrived at a minimum-security prison known as "Camp Cupcake" under cover of early morning darkness to serve a five-month sentence for lying about a stock sale.

Stewart, one of the America's best-known personalities, was subjected to a strip search on arrival on Friday and had to squat and cough hard to check for hidden contraband, Federal Bureau of Prisons spokeswoman Carla Wilson said.

For the next five months, she will be known as prisoner No. 55170-054. Full Story (http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=599532&section=news)

[LinasK]

I agree. The statement was more crafted. MAYBE, her advisers are telling her, the longer she delays this, the worse it looks for her, and now she's playing the part (poorly, imho) of the martyr .....doing her "time" over the holidays that she so enjoys and will miss dearly......so that she and her company can "move on."

Yawn.
Yea, no K-Mart Christmas ad's of her's this year. They were so nauseating!!!:sick:

[LinasK]

Martha wasn't convicted for insider trading. She was convicted for lying to investigators by saying she didn't do it. What kind of wacky justice is that? Am I the only one who thinks there's something wrong with this picture?

I have never been a fan of Martha's and don't like the way it's been reported that she often treats people, but I firmly believe the case was brought against her because she's a powerful woman, and certain powerful men thought she needed to be put in her place.No, it was brought against her BECAUSE she is an arrogant LIAR who thinks she's above the law, NOT because she is a woman!!! I am a feminist, IMS:behindbar is not, she only cares about herself, not womankind.:razz:

[BirdieBoo]

No, it was brought against her BECAUSE she is an arrogant LIAR who thinks she's above the law, NOT because she is a woman!!! I am a feminist, IMS:behindbar is not, she only cares about herself, not womankind.:razz:
Ken Lay and the rest of those Enron men need to be in jail :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar too and they're not. IMO Martha did do something wrong, but she is being made an example of because she is a woman.


I found out yesterday that there is going to be a new Martha reality program when she comes out of jail.

[BirdieBoo]

:eek:



ALDERSON, West Virginia (Reuters) - Trendsetter Martha Stewart has arrived at a minimum-security prison known as "Camp Cupcake" under cover of early morning darkness to serve a five-month sentence for lying about a stock sale.

Stewart, one of the America's best-known personalities, was subjected to a strip search on arrival on Friday and had to squat and cough hard to check for hidden contraband, Federal Bureau of Prisons spokeswoman Carla Wilson said.

For the next five months, she will be known as prisoner No. 55170-054. Full Story (http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=599532&section=news)

Did anyone see SNL last night? They reported that when Martha had to squat and cough hard, she laid 2 perfect, blue-speckled robin eggs :p

[Jeana (DP)]

Ken Lay and the rest of those Enron men need to be in jail :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar too and they're not. IMO Martha did do something wrong, but she is being made an example of because she is a woman.


I found out yesterday that there is going to be a new Martha reality program when she comes out of jail.

The Enron guys (and their wives (in some cases)) ARE going to jail and will be there long after Martha is released. She got a slap on the wrist and I think that the punishment in this case fit the crime. Had she not been a stock broker, I don't believe she would have been found guilty. However, since she knew what the rules were, and chose to break them, she has to pay for that.