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reen
04-11-2010, 02:51 PM
A five year old reported missing Saturday morning was found just 3 hours later, deceased.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/central-texas-digest-body-of-missing-child-5-549270.html

If he/she was missing since 5:30am, why was a report not made untili 7:00??

This is in my area. Poor little bit.

reen
04-11-2010, 02:58 PM
The child was dumped a very short distance away from the home:

http://tinyurl.com/y4ysc45

reen
04-11-2010, 10:53 PM
It was a little boy. Still no more info.

Starry Night
04-12-2010, 02:06 AM
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/father-of-boy%2C-5-found-dead-speaks-out

Starry Night
04-12-2010, 02:31 AM
Not much more info....
http://www.kvue.com/news/Child-found-dead-identified-90586789.html

Amster
04-12-2010, 03:15 AM
Not much more info....
http://www.kvue.com/news/Child-found-dead-identified-90586789.html

Dad says "he's my son, my second meat".....what the heck does that mean??

DairyGirl
04-12-2010, 03:17 AM
Dad says "he's my son, my second meat".....what the heck does that mean??

Maybe he mean to say "my second me".

revampz
04-12-2010, 04:36 AM
wow this one is a bit confusing....the dad left his kids with his girlfriend for a week......I wonder if he went out of town to work......

if it wasnt her she might have had someone over or a party or something.....

all in all very very sad.....again

reen
04-12-2010, 09:34 AM
wow this one is a bit confusing....the dad left his kids with his girlfriend for a week......I wonder if he went out of town to work......

if it wasnt her she might have had someone over or a party or something.....

all in all very very sad.....again

Yes, at first I couldn't figure out if he meant she babysat one day a week ago, but the boy had been with him since...or that he left the boy with her all week and hasn't called (!), which seems to be the case because the person who reported the boy missing was female. Where was dad?

KaylynnCouture
04-12-2010, 10:28 AM
Family and friends held a candlelight vigil Sunday for a 5-year-old child who was found dead in North Austin over the weekend.

His body was found about a mile from his home after he went missing Saturday morning.

According to Adam Enriquez, a family friend, the child’s name was Julian Soliz.

"The kid is full of life, you what I mean? You couldn’t get any better man," Enriquez said. "The little kid would always come in my shop and always know everybody, come in and talk to everybody, how you doing, dance. He didn't care."

Not much is known about what happened to Julian.

His body was found in the grass near Wells Port Drive and Wells Port Cove several hours after his caretaker called authorities.

Snipped from http://news8austin.com/content/top_stories/270158/circumstances-still-uncertain-in-death-of-5-year-old

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 10:55 AM
A five year old reported missing Saturday morning was found just 3 hours later, deceased.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/central-texas-digest-body-of-missing-child-5-549270.html

If he/she was missing since 5:30am, why was a report not made untili 7:00??

This is in my area. Poor little bit.

Snip below from the first (and only) story at the time I read on Saturday.

Police said the caretaker told them she went on an almost two hour search looking for the child before calling police.

Authorities did conduct their own search, but it ended around 10:00 a.m. when dispatched received a call that a child's body was found near Wells Port Drive and Wells Port Cove lying in the grass. Deputies verified the body was that of the missing child.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/kxan-missing-child-found-dead

Looking for him for nearly 2 hours doesn't change the fact she should have called 911 immediately, IMO.

A local TV station (apologies but don't recall which one I was watching) reported little Julian was found by a woman pushing a baby in a stroller. :(

For those unfamiliar w/ this area, it is what IMO is a "nice" middle-class area that's in an unincorporated area of the county, even tho it is referred to as Austin (Austin addresses & phone numbers) & isn't rural at all..[ETA: it's also referred to as Wells Branch]...we have friends who live off Shoreline & one of our favorite hangouts for happy hour is just a few blocks from there.

DBF & I were house/dog-sitting over the weekend just blocks from Wells Port where he was found....I'd stayed up til the wee hours Saturday morning watching the Nadia Bloom thread for news of her search.....It was very sad to find out later that while I was up waiting to hear about what happened to Nadia that something terrible (apparently) happened to a little one so close to where we were. :(

We went out to breakfast Sunday a.m. & the locals were talking about it...it's very shocking & sad to all of us here.

dreamweaver
04-12-2010, 11:43 AM
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/father-of-boy,-5-found-dead-speaks-out

Dozens of family members and friends of Julian Soliz, 5, who was found dead Saturday morning in North Travis County, held a vigil in the parking lot of Soila's Salon in South Austin Sunday night.
Many of them too upset to talk on camera, but the boy's father broke his silence.
"I want to know how my son died," said Ivan Soliz, Julian's father. "He is 5 years old, he didn't deserve nothing like that."
"I want the individual who did this to my grandbaby to be found," said Leonard Smith, Julian's grandfather, while he tried to choke back tears.
Julian Soliz, 5, was found dead in a grassy patch near the intersection of Wells Port Cove and Wells Port Drive Saturday morning.
Julian went missing from The Estates at Shoreline apartment complex where he lived with his father and father's girlfriend, along with his two younger siblings, a few hours earlier.

dreamweaver
04-12-2010, 11:45 AM
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/04/12/family_of_dead_boy_may_get_ans.html

Family members of a 5-year-old boy found dead Saturday may get answers as early as today from the medical examiner’s office as to why the child died.
A medical exam of the child’s body was under way this weekend following the discovery of Julian Solis in a grassy spot located about two miles from the North Austin apartments, The Estates of Shoreline, located at 3501 Shoreline Drive, where he initially went missing.
The child was discovered about three hours after he was reported missing in a nearby Wells Branch neighborhood.
Parents Leonard Solis and Jessica Salazar of Austin expect to have a funeral services for their son at Mission Funeral Home, according to a death notice posted today.
Sheriff’s Office spokesman Roger Wade said he would speak to investigators later this morning to get an update on the case. Detectives may get a sense of the boy’s cause of death today, but for now, it’s being investigated as a deceased person, Wade said.
The Travis County Sheriff’s Office is investigating the death after being called to the scene about 7 a.m. Saturday. The child had been missing since 5:30 a.m., and deputies and were not called until nearly two hours later, officials said.

more at link..

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Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 12:15 PM
Answers Wanted in Child's Death

Updated: Monday, 12 Apr 2010, 9:22 AM CDT
Published : Monday, 12 Apr 2010, 9:22 AM CDT

Austin, TX - Family members of a 5-year-old Travis County boy say they're still searching for answers on how he died, but they're opening up on how he became missing.

...............

The family says Travis County investigators called them and told them Julian's death will likely be investigated as a homicide and that Julian may have suffered internal bleeding. :(

The family says they appreciate the outpouring of support from relatives and the community. But, they say the mystery of not knowing what happened to Julian is heartbreaking.

more here

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/041210-Answers-Wanted-in-Childs-Death

tk71texas
04-12-2010, 12:29 PM
very strange....I'm curious to see where this goes :waitasec:

TGIRecovered
04-12-2010, 12:54 PM
The news reports say that she noticed him missing at 5:30 Sunday morning and searched until 7am before calling 911. Where the heck would a little kid go that early? It was still dark out and practically no one is awake at 5:30 on Sunday! I think that most people would immediately assume someone took him during the night and call police as soon as they realized he was not in the home.

I think something bad happened to him at home Saturday night, then someone moved his body to make it appear he was killed after having wandered off. I'm betting LE is busy checking the apartment and related vehicles for a crime scene. I wonder how many neighbors knew that Dad was out of town?

Mom who cares
04-12-2010, 12:55 PM
Do you think it's possible he was struck by a car?

TGIRecovered
04-12-2010, 01:05 PM
Do you think it's possible he was struck by a car?

I think that it was staged that way.

I wonder when he was last seen by someone other than the girlfriend? I don't think a five year old would have been out walking around that far from his front door when it was still dark that early in the morning. If he had been hit the night before, the girlfriend should have noticed he didn't come home for bed.

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 01:48 PM
Yes, at first I couldn't figure out if he meant she babysat one day a week ago, but the boy had been with him since...or that he left the boy with her all week and hasn't called (!), which seems to be the case because the person who reported the boy missing was female. Where was dad?

Snip from one of Starry Night's links (above) --the 'caregiver/girlfriend' supposedly lives w/ the dad & 2 of Julian's siblings....so yeah, where was dad & did the g/f leave the 2 younger kids *alone* for almost 2 hours while she searched for Julian?

Julian went missing from The Estates at Shoreline apartment complex where he lived with his father and father's girlfriend, along with his two younger siblings, a few hours earlier.

Maybe dad works the graveyard shift???

Amster
04-12-2010, 02:15 PM
Dad works at a hair salon, sounds like.

Amster
04-12-2010, 02:19 PM
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/father-of-boy%2C-5-found-dead-speaks-out

Dad says he left the kids in charge of his gf about a week ago.....where the heck was he? AND, he hasn't seen or spoken to the gf since his sons body was found. HINK!

Starry Night
04-12-2010, 02:26 PM
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/04/12/family_of_dead_boy_may_get_ans.html

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 02:40 PM
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/04/12/family_of_dead_boy_may_get_ans.html

from above link

Meanwhile, the boy’s father Leonard Soliz, confirmed that the boy had internal injuries. He also said that his current girlfriend had been taking care of the boy for the past week. He said that she had been sleeping and when she woke up, the boy was gone and the door was unlocked.

So g/f searched for Julian for "2 hours" after a mysterious disappearance...no excuses for not calling 911 -- even "if" she believed Julian wondered off in the middle of the nite/early morning.

Confusing too -- was dad & g/f living together or not? Had she just moved in w/i the past week or so?

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 03:16 PM
04/12/2010 12:52 PM
Authorities investigating death of 5-year-old as homicide

By: News 8 Austin Staff

The Travis County Sheriff's Office released a statement Monday saying it is investigating the death of a 5-year-old in North Austin as a homicide.
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Authorities are not releasing any more details about the case at this time.
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Investigators are interviewing witnesses, and the medical examiner's office is determining what caused the child’s death.


http://news8austin.com/content/local_news/270187/authorities-investigating-death-of-5-year-old-as-homicide

(I checked TCSO's website for an 'official' press release & didn't see one at this time.)

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 03:35 PM
<snip>

Soliz was under the care of his father's girlfriend. Authorities said the caretaker reported the boy missing since 5:30 a.m Saturday morning. Authorities have not confirmed if that caretaker was Soliz's girlfriend, thought Leonard Soliz, the boy's father confirmed it was.

She had been caring for Soliz for about a week, his father said.

"We're as clueless as you are," said Soliz's mother Jessica Soliz, who did not live with her son.

Soliz's father, Leonard, said the last time he spoke with his girlfriend was last night.

Texas Child Protective Services Spokesman Chris Van Deusen said workers now have two other children living with the girlfriend in protective custody. A five-year-old girl was the girlfriend's daughter and a seven-month-old boy belonged to Soliz and the girlfriend.

Van Deusen also said the state was conducting an investigation on the family.

"Anytime there's a child who dies with possible abuse or neglect, there's an investigation," Van Deusen said.

The autopsy on the young boy is not complete, but family members said the boy had internal bleeding with no visible signs of trauma to his body.

more here

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/boy%27s-death-investigated-as-homicide

ETA:


Sheriff's now say he was in the care of his father's girlfriend at the time, because his father, Leonard Soliz, had already left for the barbershop he worked at.

http://weareaustin.com/content/fulltext/?cid=58502

nursebeeme
04-12-2010, 03:40 PM
thanks texasmist for all the updates. I am trying to think how a child could have internal bleeding without visible signs of trauma and I immediately think shaking. It causes contra coup brain damage (as the brain shakes back and forth) and would not be seen from the outside. It could also explain confusion/wandering away (internal bleeding of the brain). However, you would think drivers would have spotted a kid wandering like that???

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 03:52 PM
Dad works at a hair salon, sounds like.

Yep - in the gallery here (pic#6) it says he works as a barber at the salon, as well as mentioned in the kxan.com link in my previous post....(note also there are pics of the door w/ business hours.)

http://galleries.statesman.com/gallery/mourning-death-julian-soliz-041210/#

Heart-wrenching photos of the poor grieving mom....I can't even imagine that kind of pain. :(

RubyRed
04-12-2010, 04:19 PM
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/01/39/52/slideshow_1523913_dyc_julian_soliz_07.jpg
Photo of Julian Soliz, 5.
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/03/38/52/slideshow_1523830_dyc_julian_soliz_01.jpg
A cross with a photo of Julian Soliz, 5, hangs on the door of Soila's Hair Salon on Monday, April 12, 2010. Soliz' father, Leonard 'Ivan' Soliz is a barber at the salon. Julian's body was found near the intersection of Wells Port Drive and Wells Port Cove on Saturday morning.


http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/07/38/52/slideshow_1523877_ACJ_Julian_Soliz_Wells-2.jpg
Mourners have left mementos where the body of five-year-old Julian Soliz was found near the intersection of Wells Port Drive and Wells Port Cove on Saturday.


http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/01/38/52/slideshow_1523816_ACJ_Julian_Soliz_Wells.jpg
Mourners have left mementos where the body of five-year-old Julian Soliz was found near the intersection of Wells Port Drive and Wells Port Cove on Saturday


http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/02/38/52/slideshow_1523828_ACJ_Julian_Soliz_Wells-4.jpg

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/05/38/52/slideshow_1523857_ACJ_Julian_Soliz_Wells-1.jpg

http://galleries.statesman.com/gallery/mourning-death-julian-soliz-041210/#75405%23

crocus
04-12-2010, 04:22 PM
The sheriff's office has asked for anyone with information about the child, going back the last few weeks, to contact detectives.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D9F1MSV00.html


What a cute boy! This is just too much........:(

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 04:40 PM
thanks texasmist for all the updates. I am trying to think how a child could have internal bleeding without visible signs of trauma and I immediately think shaking. It causes contra coup brain damage (as the brain shakes back and forth) and would not be seen from the outside. It could also explain confusion/wandering away (internal bleeding of the brain). However, you would think drivers would have spotted a kid wandering like that???

I thought of shaking or some other CHI too, nurse.

But I'm so jaded after Misty C's "somebody broke in, door is unlocked/open, I looked all over for HaLeigh" story I'm not inclined to believe little Julian wandered off...and since LE hasn't made any noise about an boogey-man-child-abductor...well - you know where I'm going w/ this.

In the event that he did wander off, I'd hope someone who may have seen him would call LE....(there's not a lot of traffic on those streets in the wee hours of the a.m. since they're not really major thoroughfares)...I just don't think that's gonna happen tho (JMOOOC).

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 05:00 PM
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/04/12/family_of_dead_boy_may_get_ans.html

Family members of a 5-year-old boy found dead Saturday may get answers as early as today from the medical examiner’s office as to why the child died.
A medical exam of the child’s body was under way this weekend following the discovery of Julian Solis in a grassy spot located about two miles from the North Austin apartments, The Estates of Shoreline, located at 3501 Shoreline Drive, where he initially went missing.
The child was discovered about three hours after he was reported missing in a nearby Wells Branch neighborhood.
Parents Leonard Solis and Jessica Salazar of Austin expect to have a funeral services for their son at Mission Funeral Home, according to a death notice posted today.
Sheriff’s Office spokesman Roger Wade said he would speak to investigators later this morning to get an update on the case. Detectives may get a sense of the boy’s cause of death today, but for now, it’s being investigated as a deceased person, Wade said.
The Travis County Sheriff’s Office is investigating the death after being called to the scene about 7 a.m. Saturday. The child had been missing since 5:30 a.m., and deputies and were not called until nearly two hours later, officials said.

more at link..

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This link was updated @ 3:30 pm...from what I can tell, the snippet below is "new" because I don't remember reading it earlier...I wish online articles would indicate what's "updated" :confused:

Child Protective Services investigated the family five years ago, said Chris Van Deusen, spokesman with the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services.

At that time, Julian was 3 months old and living with his father. When Salazar arrived at Soliz’s home to pick up the child, they got into an argument and started grabbing at the child, Van Deusen said. Julian received a cut.

No one was arrested in the incident, Van Deusen said. CPS found that there had been “neglectful supervision” of the child, but the case was closed because investigators believed it was a one-time thing and the parents realized their actions were wrong, he said.

“The child didn’t seem to be at risk of any future danger,” Van Deusen said. Since then, CPS has had no further involvement with the family.

Kat
04-12-2010, 06:52 PM
Yep - in the gallery here (pic#6) it says he works as a barber at the salon, as well as mentioned in the kxan.com link in my previous post....(note also there are pics of the door w/ business hours.)

http://galleries.statesman.com/gallery/mourning-death-julian-soliz-041210/#

Heart-wrenching photos of the poor grieving mom....I can't even imagine that kind of pain. :(

This is neither here nor there but it really irks me to see that Dad with sunglasses on while standing in the shade. I'm not quite sure why it bothers me so much but it does.

At least I am assuming that is Dad?

Rest in Peace Julian. What a beautiful child.

darlin gal
04-12-2010, 07:10 PM
Child Protective Services is conducting a separate investigation into the death of a 5-year-old boy over the weekend, as the Travis County Sheriff’s Office conducts its homicide investigation.
Julian Salazar Soliz disappeared Saturday morning from an apartment complex on Shore Line Drive.
Deputies found his body a mile away near Wellsport Drive and Wellsport Cove in Wells Branch.
KVUE News learned Monday the girlfriend of Julian's father was taking care of him when he disappeared.
Now the state has removed two other children from the girlfriend's home – a 5-year-old girl and a 7-month-old baby boy. They are in foster care as CPS investigates for signs of abuse and neglect.
Meanwhile, Julian's family is questioning how the little boy went missing.
“Julian… wouldn’t have just walked out of the house. Julian wasn’t like that. He never opened the door for nobody, even if it was us he would call his mom or daddy so we know he wouldn’t walk out of that house by himself,” said Angie Salazar, Julian’s grandmother.
Travis County sheriff's deputies are asking the public for information about Julian over the last few weeks.
A sheriff's spokesperson says they do not believe a stranger had any part in this.
http://www.kvue.com/home/CPS-conducts-investigation-after-5-year-olds-death-90702009.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

lonetraveler
04-12-2010, 07:27 PM
Dad says "he's my son, my second meat".....what the heck does that mean??

IMO, this is right up next to "she is my heart" that another father stated when he left his little girl with a girlfriend. And the little girl disappeared. Her body hasn't been found yet. Have the father or girlfriend taken a poly test yet?:banghead:

lonetraveler
04-12-2010, 07:33 PM
This is neither here nor there but it really irks me to see that Dad with sunglasses on while standing in the shade. I'm not quite sure why it bothers me so much but it does.

At least I am assuming that is Dad?

Rest in Peace Julian. What a beautiful child.

I can totally understand how you feel about the sunglasses. It seems that every parent lately who has lost a child is wearing the signature sunglasses to hide their eyes. I have a simple question: why hasn't the father seen the little boy since he only works from 10:00 am to 7:00 pm during the day? Anyone? Just trying to understand.

AnnieOakley
04-12-2010, 07:34 PM
IMHO- My sincerest apologies if I am wrong, but, my Hink-meter is on tilt... JMO

lonetraveler
04-12-2010, 07:37 PM
IMHO- My sincerest apologies if I am wrong, but, my Hink-meter is on tilt... JMO

Not only my Hink Meter but my P'd off meter is on high alert. Big time.:banghead:

lonetraveler
04-12-2010, 07:52 PM
Snip from one of Starry Night's links (above) --the 'caregiver/girlfriend' supposedly lives w/ the dad & 2 of Julian's siblings....so yeah, where was dad & did the g/f leave the 2 younger kids *alone* for almost 2 hours while she searched for Julian?

Julian went missing from The Estates at Shoreline apartment complex where he lived with his father and father's girlfriend, along with his two younger siblings, a few hours earlier.

Maybe dad works the graveyard shift???

De Javu all over again. Again, where was the father for a week? He worked as a barber nearby where his son was living and with the father's girlfriend. I don't have physic powers but even I can predict where this is going.

revampz
04-12-2010, 08:06 PM
I agree everyone......we all know where this is going as I have only been on websleuths since Oct last year and I have seen this same story...different characters.....a number of times now...

suss...suss...suss...

other kids taken away, police wanting info about the last couple of weeks, more than likely shaken.....neither parent the carer at the time.....

a couple of questions, why was he not with mum???? and yep where was dad???? or is dad lying and was there as well????

I will bet my left leg that it will be one of two people.......

crocus
04-12-2010, 08:37 PM
I think the answers will prove to be ugly. IMO


For little Julian ......
http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/blessingssmiley.gif (http://www.millan.net)

Texas Mist
04-12-2010, 09:24 PM
I don't know if it's the "reporting" that's messed up, or what reporters are being told that's confusing.

I've read that the dad lived with the g/f (who is now named in the media), but in this news vid & where I've read elsewhere he "left" Julian (and his other child) with the g/f -- for a week! I've also read all day today that the dad hadn't talked w/ g/f since Julian's body was found but in a news vid he says he talked to her last nite (Sunday).

Here's the link to that news vid that also mentions the apartment on Shoreline is the g/f's apt.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/boy%27s-death-investigated-as-homicide

And to further confuse matters, an article here - http://weareaustin.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=58465 - says:

Sheriff's now say he was in the care of his father's girlfriend at the time, because his father, Leonard Soliz, had already left for the barbershop he worked at.

Ummmm - it's about 18 miles from Shoreline Estates apartments to the salon in east Austin -- not exactly an out of town job!...on a Saturday morning it would take about 25 minutes to get there, and at least double that travel time on a weekday during morning rush hour (Austin traffic sux!!)...at any rate, I haven't found any other local news reporting that the dad left Saturday a.m. & *if* that's true, why leave so early in the a.m. -- how long would it take to get the salon ready to open by 10a.m.??

So anyway, it's :confused: - dad who had custody left 2 of his kids w/ a baby-mama for a week? Or not? Not to mention he said he thinks LE believe he & g/f are suspects because they were the only ones "care-taking" Julian.

(And the g/f is named here now http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/boy%27s-death-investigated-as-homicide )

Just don't like the inconsistencies - whether it's the media reporting or the dad causing it & at this point I can't figure it out. :banghead:

Poor little Julian - his mom hadn't seen him in a month & his dad hadn't seen him for a week (maybe). :(

Starry Night
04-12-2010, 11:01 PM
I am sick of people saying how much they 'love' their child but then turn around and dump them off with any available sitter....so many kids these days are just shunted around. So he left the g/f alone for a week with what-a 4 year old, a 5 year old and a 7 month old??? Sounds like she was over-loaded and he not being there to help out...who knows? Or maybe she had someone over (male friend?) and the 5 year old was going to 'tell daddy'......

Calliope
04-12-2010, 11:16 PM
This is confusing. Are either of them suspects?

SailorMoon
04-12-2010, 11:54 PM
ARRGHHH. I swear, I log on, another beautiful child missing and dumped like freaking trash. I am so so so so sick of this. Rest in peace sweet little boy. Lead the way to the one or ones who did the to you. It's a toss up at this point, but I can bet I've looked at the picture of the one responsible for your death today in the photo gallery. Enie meany, miney mo.....so so sick of this. Will the cough ahem caregiver responsible for his death please stand up??? If I'm wrong, I'll gladly eat that crow sandwich for dinner, supper or even breakfast.

KaylynnCouture
04-13-2010, 12:55 AM
Rest in peace Julian. :rose:

Calliope
04-13-2010, 07:36 AM
Snip from one of Starry Night's links (above) --the 'caregiver/girlfriend' supposedly lives w/ the dad & 2 of Julian's siblings....so yeah, where was dad & did the g/f leave the 2 younger kids *alone* for almost 2 hours while she searched for Julian?

Julian went missing from The Estates at Shoreline apartment complex where he lived with his father and father's girlfriend, along with his two younger siblings, a few hours earlier.

Maybe dad works the graveyard shift???

This seems to clarify the ages of the other children in the home:

Soliz has two other children, a 6-month-old boy with Turner and a 3 -year-old girl, he said. Salazar also has two other children, a 2-year-old son and a 3-year-old daughter.

Since Saturday, CPS has taken custody of two children that lived in the home with Soliz and Turner: the couple's son and Turner's 5-year-old daughter from a previous relationship, Van Deusen said.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/family-mourns-the-loss-of-5-year-old-557226.html?page=2

reen
04-13-2010, 10:01 AM
This seems to clarify the ages of the other children in the home:

Soliz has two other children, a 6-month-old boy with Turner and a 3 -year-old girl, he said. Salazar also has two other children, a 2-year-old son and a 3-year-old daughter.

Since Saturday, CPS has taken custody of two children that lived in the home with Soliz and Turner: the couple's son and Turner's 5-year-old daughter from a previous relationship, Van Deusen said.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/family-mourns-the-loss-of-5-year-old-557226.html?page=2

Six children 5 and under between this lot. Nice.

WHY will the father not state where on earth he's been all week if he lives at that apartment and works just across town?? Even with our crappy traffic, it's not a bad commute from North to East Austin. I've commuted much farther distances/worse routes in this town daily. Sorry to sound like a broken record...but that missing piece is annoying me.

ThePhantom
04-13-2010, 10:23 AM
The chidren, the elderly, the poor, and the sick --- these are the marginalized in our society -- neglected, ignored and abused -- they don't have the power, strength or voice to fight for themselves, and not enough people care -- they are the very ones for whom we must stand in the gap

TGIRecovered
04-13-2010, 10:36 AM
I would be interested to know how long this poor child has been dead. The fact that police are asking the public for info about the last few weeks of the child's life indicates that his condition at the time of death may have shown evidence of older injuries.

I wonder if Julian might have died from injuries several days old...a slow bleed, perhaps? Dad said something about internal bleeding but no external evidence of trauma...something like that.

So, did bad things happen while Dad was away for a week?...Dad works right there in town...how "away" was he? Why was he "away"?

Calliope
04-13-2010, 10:57 AM
Six children 5 and under between this lot. Nice.

<snipped>

My parents' best friends had 6 kids... one every year. Can't imagine having 6 children from newborn to 6. I'd pull my hair out. We all grew up together. Great family.

Calliope
04-13-2010, 11:01 AM
Six children 5 and under between this lot. Nice.

WHY will the father not state where on earth he's been all week if he lives at that apartment and works just across town?? Even with our crappy traffic, it's not a bad commute from North to East Austin. I've commuted much farther distances/worse routes in this town daily. Sorry to sound like a broken record...but that missing piece is annoying me.

Hard to say; from news interviews I've watched, he'd bring Julian to work with him and it sounds as if that was pretty common for him to do so.

Texas Mist
04-13-2010, 11:18 AM
welll - here we go....why not suprised???? :mad:

The father, Leonard Soliz, was convicted in Williamson County in 2008 for assaulting his girlfriend. An affidavit shows that Soliz had tried to choke his girlfriend, Nichole Shante Turner. In 2009, he was also convicted of assaulting somebody in Travis County.

http://news8austin.com/content/local_news/270187/community-unites-in-death-of-5-year-old

Texas Mist
04-13-2010, 11:21 AM
<snip>

Julian's family told us his badly bruised body was found where a memorial now stands at the corner of Wells Port Drive and Wells Port Cove.

His relatives held a benefit on Monday in East Austin to raise money for the little boy's funeral but said he won't rest in peace until this case is closed.

“We didn't have insurance for Julian so it’s going to all go to services we need for him,” said Julian’s Aunt, Rachel Servantes about the benefit.

The music, donations and barbecue on Montopolis Drive could not conceal a desperate mother and father.

“I still can't believe it,” said Julian’s Father, Leonard Soliz as he dropped his head at the benefit. “We have to find answers. Someone knows something.”

His son's mysterious death started as a missing person's report.

Julian was staying with his father's girlfriend and somehow, left her apartment on the third floor Saturday morning.

“She just woke up and he wasn't there,” said Soliz. “There's nothing else.”

“The caretaker knows more than what she's telling us,” said Julian’s grandmother, Angie Salazar about the father’s girlfriend. “And right now nobody can get in touch with her.”

Detectives said they did interview the father's girlfriend and that she's cooperating.

more here

http://weareaustin.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=58465

Calliope
04-13-2010, 11:22 AM
I don't get it... why would you not be surprised? Has he been named a suspect in Julian's death? I can't find many news stories on this case (which is surprising considering the circumstances). The one I saw of his grandfather being interviewed just broke my heart :(

reen
04-13-2010, 12:12 PM
Wait, now his body was covered in bruises? I thought they'd earlier found no external evidence of trauma. Could have been struck by a car, but I really can't envision a 5 year old sneaking out of the house in the pitch dark at 5:30am and walking a mile from his or her home. Is it possible he had a bad dream and went off in a vain search for Daddy and got hit? My 5 year old sometimes wakes up for whatever reasons and climbs into my bed and goes back to sleep, and it always seems to be those early morning hours (6am, for her). That's why I'm thinking it's plausible, but since I never leave her overnight I don't know whether she'd wander off trying to find me.

Is there a friend of dad's that lives nearby, where he was staying this week? It does appear he and the GF were in some sort of spat, since they haven't spoken for a week and still haven't following Julian's death.

That street looks like several around Austin, where it's residential but straight and wide without much for stop lights, so cars speed through. Are any of you more familiar with it? His body was found at an intersection - he could have been trying to cross (without benefit of a stoplight, in the dark). It would be a really dumb place to dump a body, so I'm thinking a hit-and-run by a car cold be a possibility.

Calliope
04-13-2010, 12:21 PM
Wait, now his body was covered in bruises? I thought they'd earlier found no external evidence of trauma. Could have been struck by a car, but I really can't envision a 5 year old sneaking out of the house in the pitch dark at 5:30am and walking a mile from his or her home. Is it possible he had a bad dream and went off in a vain search for Daddy and got hit? My 5 year old sometimes wakes up for whatever reasons and climbs into my bed and goes back to sleep, and it always seems to be those early morning hours (6am, for her). That's why I'm thinking it's plausible, but since I never leave her overnight I don't know whether she'd wander off trying to find me.

Is there a friend of dad's that lives nearby, where he was staying this week? It does appear he and the GF were in some sort of spat, since they haven't spoken for a week and still haven't following Julian's death.

That street looks like several around Austin, where it's residential but straight and wide without much for stop lights, so cars speed through. Are any of you more familiar with it? His body was found at an intersection - he could have been trying to cross (without benefit of a stoplight, in the dark). It would be a really dumb place to dump a body, so I'm thinking a hit-and-run by a car cold be a possibility.

BBM.

I haven't seen that LE or the ME have said that, just the father.

As far as wandering off, a friend has an autistic child who did that when he was 3-4 years old. She had to have alarms placed to wake her if he tried to leave the house. He wasn't slow, just for some reason could not understand he wasn't to leave the house by himself.

Salem
04-13-2010, 06:50 PM
Guys - No BASHING of dad until LE gives us some word as to his possible involvement. For now, he is the victim's father and deserves some compassion and respect. That could change.

My understanding right now is that dad was NOT there at the time and had MAYBE been absent for a week.

If that has changed, provide me with a link and this can be reconsidered.

This will be a difficult case to sleuth if LE is not forthcoming with info. The situation definitely makes it look like someone close to this baby is the perp - BUT we need to wait for that info, okay?

Thanks,

Salem

Salem
04-13-2010, 06:55 PM
~Respectfully snipped ~
BBM.

I haven't seen that LE or the ME have said that, just the father.



I saw the article that Reen is talking about that said the child had no visible trauma to the body. Then a couple articles later, is was said that the body was covered in bruises. I had the very same thoughts Reen did - WTH??

Salem

ETA: This link talks about badly bruised body: http://weareaustin.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=58465

ETA: This is the link for "no visible signs of trauma: http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/boy%27s-death-investigated-as-homicide

~snip~ The autopsy on the young boy is not complete, but family members said the boy had internal bleeding with no visible signs of trauma to his body. ~end snip~

Texas Mist
04-13-2010, 10:41 PM
No official suspect in boy's killing, sheriff's office says
Investigators asking for tips in investigation of 5-year-old Julian Soliz.

By Claudia Grisales
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Published: 8:56 p.m. Tuesday, April 13, 2010

The Travis County sheriff's office is continuing to follow leads in the homicide investigation of 5-year-old Julian Salazar Soliz and says there are no named suspects in the case.

It could be weeks before an official autopsy report is released, a sheriff's spokesman said Tuesday. Meanwhile, investigators are asking for anyone with information about the boy to contact police.

"It's not unusual in these types of cases to not have an official suspect until you have ruled out all the possibilities and come to a scenario that you think happened and can prove it," spokesman Roger Wade said. "We want to make sure justice is done and we don't arrest the wrong person."
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But Soliz acknowledged that he is facing increasing scrutiny because of media reports about his criminal background, which includes assault and burglary charges.
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On Oct. 24, 2006, Soliz was accused of grabbing Turner "around the neck with his hands" and "shoving (her) against the wall with his hand and by choking (her) with his hand," according to court documents. Soliz pleaded no contest to the charge of assault with bodily injury to a family member in the Williamson County case and was ordered to serve 10 days.

In March 2009, Soliz and his brother were accused of burglarizing the home of a relative in Manor, according to an arrest affidavit. According to the affidavit, Soliz forced his way into the home while several small children were present, grabbed the relative in a headlock and choked him. As part of a plea bargain, Soliz pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and was placed on community supervision until 2011. Soliz has to stay away from the relative's home and have "no gang affiliation," court documents said.

Soliz said of that case: "That's people saying stuff about me that's not true."

Last month, Soliz was pulled over for speeding and police discovered that he was driving without insurance and had a prohibited weapon — grip-designed knuckles — in the car, according to an arrest affidavit filed after the March 9 incident.

On March 18, the Travis County district attorney said that Soliz had violated the terms of the 2009 plea agreement and that in addition to the traffic and weapon citations, he had tested positive for marijuana late last year and for cocaine March 5.

more here

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/no-official-suspect-in-boys-killing-sheriffs-office-561397.html

Texas Mist
04-13-2010, 11:02 PM
Piecing together Julian's final days
Timeline for death of child still unclear

Updated: Tuesday, 13 Apr 2010, 6:12 PM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 13 Apr 2010, 4:53 PM CDT

* Shannon Wolfson
* Matt Flener

AUSTIN (KXAN) - The last time any of Julian Salazar Soliz's friends in his kindergarten class at Wells Branch Elementary saw him was last Wednesday. On Monday, two schools would have to explain why Julian was gone.

Tracing his last days, it appears Soliz's last day at Wells Branch Elementary was Wednesday. He was a recent transfer, from Austin's Perez Elementary, where other members of his family attended.

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Detectives investigation Soliz's death have yet to reilease his cause of death, saying they are waiting on toxicology tests which could take six to eight weeks.

"We are asking anyone who has seen Julian in the last two weeks to give us a call," said Travis County Sheriff's Department Spokesman Roger Wade.
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Detectives said they have no suspects or persons of interest at this point. They do have a preliminary cause of death but are not releasing that just yet. It could be six to eight weeks before the official autopsy is complete.

more here

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/piecing-together-julian%27s-final-days

ETA: above link now bad -- story still here in mobile version

http://kxan.m0bl.net/w/main/story/10449277/

kbl8201
04-13-2010, 11:09 PM
this is sounding like haliegh only with a body :(

Texas Mist
04-13-2010, 11:11 PM
Parents of 5-year-old homicide victim have CPS, criminal record

by NOELLE NEWTON / KVUE News
Posted on April 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Updated today at 8:08 PM

<snip>

“This has always been so peaceful, a really safe neighborhood. I mean, my friends for the longest time didn't lock their doors at night. It's really sad,” said Natalie Ignacio, neighbor.

Homicide detectives are still trying to determine how the 5-year-old boy died. They believe the boy knew his killer.

Julian's mother, Jessica Salazar, and father, Leonard "Ivan" Soliz, hugged friends and wiped away tears Tuesday morning at a barbecue benefit in Southeast Austin.

They and Soliz's girlfriend Nichole Turner -- who Julian was staying with at the time of his disappearance -- are being questioned by Child Protective Services. Soliz and Salazar told deputies they had not seen the boy several days before he died.
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Travis County deputies say Nichole Turner is not a suspect. Nevertheless, CPS has taken custody of her 5-year-old daughter and her 7-month-old boy. Soliz is the father of the boy.
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Travis County homicide detectives are asking that anyone who had contact with Julian in the past week call the sheriff’s office. They would like to know the child's demeanor. It could lead them to the child's killer.

more here - including video

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Murdered-boys-parents-have-CPS-criminal-record-90788794.html

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
04-14-2010, 03:27 PM
Strangers pay respect to 5-year-old homicide victim's memorial

Every day since deputies found a 5-year-old's body in North Travis County, a memorial at the site has grown.

People Wednesday were stopping to pay their respects to Julian Salazar Soliz and add to the collection of toys, cards and flowers.

Travis County Sheriff’s detectives say they believe Julian knew his killer.

Detectives are talking with family members and close friends. They want to talk to anyone who saw Julian over the past two weeks.

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Strangers-Pay-Respect-to-5-Year-Old-Murder-Victims-Memorial-90843344.html

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
04-14-2010, 03:29 PM
Officials asking for help in kindergartner's death

Officials investigating the death of Julian Soliz over the weekend are asking for help from anybody who saw the 5-year-old in the days before his death.

“We want anybody who had seen Julian in the past two weeks to let us know what he appeared like, what his demeanor was and who he was with,” said Roger Wade, a spokesman for the Travis County Sheriff’s Office.

Soliz’s body was found Saturday morning in a grassy patch about two miles from the North Austin apartment where Julian’s father said he lived with his girlfriend. Leonard “Ivan” Soliz said Nichole Turner was caring for the boy at the time.

Deputies have named no suspects in the case, and they have not released information on how the boy died.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/04/14/officials_asking_for_help_in_k.html

justbeachy
04-14-2010, 03:50 PM
I just found out about this case. My heart breaks for this little boy.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
04-15-2010, 02:00 PM
Dad of slain child may lose parental rights to other son

A state agency has initiated court proceedings in Travis County to decide who will have custody of two children from the home of a 5-year-old boy found dead Saturday.

The first hearing is slated for Monday in the custody case involving a 6-month-old boy and 5-year-old girl, both of whom were taken by Child Protective Services officials from the North Austin apartment where Julian Salazar Soliz had been staying.

A petition filed in Travis County court Monday could lead to termination of the parental rights of Julian's father, Leonard "Ivan" Soliz, 21, and his girlfriend, Nichole Turner, 22, for the two children. Soliz and Turner are the parents of the infant; the 5-year-old is from a previous relationship of Turner's.

The state agency is also investigating the conditions in the children's home, a spokesman said Wednesday.

More: http://www.statesman.com/news/local/dad-of-slain-child-may-lose-parental-rights-565968.html

AnnieOakley
04-15-2010, 08:36 PM
RIP Julian...


http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/041510-5-Year-Old-Julian-Soliz-is-Laid-to-Rest

Texas Mist
04-16-2010, 10:55 AM
Police pore over video for leads on 5-year-old's death
Court records show child support dispute between parents of Julian Salazar Soliz.

By Claudia Grisales
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Updated: 12:14 a.m. Friday, April 16, 2010
Published: 9:47 p.m. Thursday, April 15, 2010

<snip>

Roger Wade, spokesman for the Travis County sheriff's office, said investigators are reviewing hundreds of hours of surveillance video from cameras in the Wells Branch area to collect additional information.

"We're thinking outside the box and trying to locate evidence and leads concerning the case, and one of the ways we did that was by going around and looking around for videotape" that may have captured something connected to Julian's death, he said.

Wade said the office has also received some tips and that investigators "are gathering some good information."
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In 2004, Soliz and Salazar were at the center of a Child Protective Services probe when Julian was scratched during a tussle between the parents. CPS found that there had been "neglectful supervision" of Julian, who was 3 months old at the time, but the case was closed because investigators thought it was a one-time thing and that the parents realized their actions were wrong, a spokesman for the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services has said.

Last year, the couple was involved in a child support fight in a Travis County court. Soliz was the parent who had custody of Julian, according to the court document, which was filed June 9 through the child support division of the Texas attorney general's office.

"The court should order appropriate current and retroactive child and medical support for the child," the filing said. The attorney general's office moved to withdraw the suit in October, and court records did not indicate why.

more here

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/police-pore-over-video-for-leads-on-5-570519.html

swanniee11
04-16-2010, 11:03 AM
I want to know why this little boy was not a school Thursday or Friday? According to the articles, he was last seen at school on Wednesday. Missing on Saturday???

Texas Mist
04-16-2010, 11:59 AM
I want to know why this little boy was not a school Thursday or Friday? According to the articles, he was last seen at school on Wednesday. Missing on Saturday???

I hate to think about why little Julian didn't go to school....was he lying in that apartment for days, in pain, before he died? Was he killed after school on Wednesday & not dumped until Saturday?

IMO, there was something very serious going on in the apt on Shoreline for CPS to have already filed to terminate parental rights! (per Idaho's link/post above). We see it so often the surviving children are removed when a sibling dies a suspicious death, but I can't recall recently where CPS moved so fast to terminate rights of both parents.

I think the 5yo and/or the g/f talked about what had been going on...so sad for those little ones. :(

On behalf of the Department of Family and Protective Services, Travis County Assistant District Attorney Anna Lee McNelis filed the court petition in the custody case involving the other children in the home.

"Family violence has occurred and is likely to occur in the future," the document reads. "Petitioner reasonably fears that there is a clear and present danger of family violence."

In 2006, Soliz, then 18, was accused of grabbing Turner, then 19, by the neck and choking her, according to Williamson County court documents. Soliz pleaded no contest to assault with bodily injury against a family member.

Turner and Soliz "knowingly placed or knowingly allowed the children to remain in conditions or surroundings which endanger the physical or emotional well-being of the children," Monday's court filing read.

Van Deusen said the children could be returned to their parents, but that depends on the outcome of the investigations into the welfare of the children and into Julian's death.

JLMcKenna83
04-16-2010, 12:37 PM
Maybe after everything that happened in other missing / murdered children's cases, they are doing things differently now. In previous cases around the country we've seen how children were in abusive homes, and returned time and time again, only to eventually end up murdered or missing at the hands of one of the adults in the household. Maybe Texas isn't willing to take that chance with the other children and they are just trying to prevent a further tragedy...

My other guess is that LE thinks that someone in the home caused Julian's death (that's why they're asking who has seen him, and what he looked like when they saw him..) And they're taking the preventative steps to ensure the other children's safety.

Or TX thinks they have their very own Misty and Ron and they are being careful. (I hate comparing cases... but there are similarities.. GF watching kids... one disappears in the night...) 5 year olds don't just get up in the middle of the night and decide that they are going to take off for a walk down the road.. let alone a 2 mile walk!

ohiogirl
04-16-2010, 01:37 PM
It sure does sound like something happened to him Wednesday and that is why he didn't show up to school after that. With the police not talking about the investigation, it leads me to believe that they have much more information than we know. I feel they are just getting their ducks in a row. jmo

Mia
04-16-2010, 03:32 PM
This poor child. Did you all see his picture? He looks like an innocent little doll. I'm really getting sick of hearing about these cases of SO's (significant others) of the parent being left to care for their children. Granted, I know there are many wonderful, caring stepparents and boyfriends/girlfriends out there, but it seems like there are just as many that, for whatever reason, resent the child that they are caring for which isn't 'theirs' and end up abusing, neglecting, or even killing the child. Since the girlfriend was the last known adult to be in the company of Julian, and since she was supposedly 'caring' for him, my eyes are on her at the moment. Although I'm confused about where Julian's dad was for a week since he works in town, and why he left his son, his girlfriend's child, and the baby they had together in her care.

Past involvement of CPS, a fight between dad and his last girlfriend during which it sounds like the child got caught in the middle of it and injured. Can parents please put their children first? Enough of this switching of boyfriends and girlfriends and drama and fighting. Focus on your children, please! Is it that important to get laid every night?

Poor Julian. Fly with the angels, baby boy. Another child murdered by the boyfriend/girlfriend of the parent, makes me ill. IMO, JMO, JMOO, etc.

AnnieOakley
04-17-2010, 03:12 PM
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/mourners-gather-for-soliz-prayer-vigil1

"Julian Soliz was an energetic and outgoing child. His grandfahter, Ivan Goree, said the boy was loved by many and his life should not have come to such a violent end."
(snip)

Goree raised Julian's father Leonard from the time he was 5 years old and said Julian and Leonard lived with him off and on throughout the child's short life. The two moved out for the final time just a few months ago.
"He decided that he wanted to move- that he wanted to try his wings - I tried to convince him to keep the baby here but I know what a father goes through," said Goree. "Julian always had a home here- there was not one day that his father did not know that he could bring him here."


Julian also lived with a cousin of Leonard, known to the family as "Van."
"If you meet this child- or if you had met this child- you'd remember him," said Kabrisha Lovett, who raised Julian with her two sons from late 2008 to May of 2009, when Julian attened pre-kindergarten at Perez Elementary.

bbm

:furious: Here are two different people who have safely (AFAWK) cared for this child in the past, but Julian is left for a week with a girlfriend... I'm sorry for criticizing, but I do not see the logic here... It looks like dad and Julian just moved out of grandpa's house a couple of months ago, and assumably, moved in with the g/f. IMHO, not enough time to know someone to watch your child for a week


(http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/mourners-gather-for-soliz-prayer-vigil1)

Calliope
04-17-2010, 03:35 PM
The interviews I've seen with the Grandfather are simply heartbreaking :(

Texas Mist
04-19-2010, 02:49 PM
State keeps temporary custody of kids after 5-year-old’s death

by KVUE News
Posted on April 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Two children who were seized from a home after the homicide of a 5-year-old boy will remain in the temporary custody of the Department of Family and Protective Services a judge ruled Monday.

Julian Soliz, 5, was found dead in Wells Branch on April 10, about a mile from the apartment where he had been staying with his father’s girlfriend, Nichole Turner. No arrests have been made.

Leonard Ivan Soliz, Julian’s mother Jessica Salazar, and Turner want to regain custody of two children – a 5-year-old girl and a 7-month-old boy -- who were removed from the home.

A judge ruled that the parents must undergo psychological evaluations. In the next month, a plan will be created for the parents to follow in order to regain custody of the children.

more here

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/State-keeps-temporary-custody-of-kids-after-5-year-olds-death-91524689.html

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State Keeps Custody of Turner's Kids

Updated: Monday, 19 Apr 2010, 10:37 AM CDT
Published : Monday, 19 Apr 2010, 10:37 AM CDT

<snip>

Turner and Ivan Soliz, the father of the youngest child, will have separate supervised visitation.

Turner was 5-year-old Julian Soliz's caretaker; Ivan was his father. The child's body was found last week about a mile from his home.

No visitation will be allowed for Turner's 5-year-old daughter. The court said she needs to go through therapy first before she has contact with family members.

more here

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/041910-State-Keeps-Custody-of-Turners-Kids

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CPS retains custody of children taken from 5 y.o.'s caretaker

Monday, April 19 2010
<snip>

Nicole Turner was responsible for taking care of Julian while his father, Leonard Soliz, who was also her boyfriend, was at work.

Turner has two other children, aged 5 years and 7 months old, one of whose father is Soliz. Those children will remain with a foster family.

The state is aiming to take custody away from Turner, and put the children in foster care, or, preferably, one of Turner's relatives who is deemed suitable.
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Turner reported Julian missing around 5:30 a.m., after his father had gone to work.

There will be another custody hearing for the children in two weeks. Currently, Turner and Soliz are not allowed to visit the 5-year-old child; they are allowed to visit the 7-month-old for one hour a week.

more here

http://weareaustin.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=59725

JLMcKenna83
04-19-2010, 04:01 PM
=======================================
State Keeps Custody of Turner's Kids

Updated: Monday, 19 Apr 2010, 10:37 AM CDT
Published : Monday, 19 Apr 2010, 10:37 AM CDT

<snip>

Turner and Ivan Soliz, the father of the youngest child, will have separate supervised visitation.

Turner was 5-year-old Julian Soliz's caretaker; Ivan was his father. The child's body was found last week about a mile from his home.

No visitation will be allowed for Turner's 5-year-old daughter. The court said she needs to go through therapy first before she has contact with family members.

more here

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_s...f-Turners-Kids


BBM.. RS from Texas Mist

Why?

Texas Mist
04-19-2010, 04:23 PM
BBM.. RS from Texas Mist

Why?

Dunno, JLM....is it common for parents to have psych evals?...I've been trying to remember another case where I read that was required and can't....counseling & classes yeah...psych evals, no...maybe it's because it's not mentioned because of HIPAA or something.

Poor kids - sounds like CPS believes they were exposed to some really bad things. :(

Texas Mist
04-20-2010, 12:35 PM
<snip>

CPS will conduct adoption homes studies on several of Turner's relatives to determine whether any are suitable to care for the children.

Leonard Soliz did not submit any relatives for consideration, but said he plans to do that.

a little more here but nothing new, IMO

http://news8austin.com/content/local_news/270376/children-living-in-julian-soliz-s-home-placed-in-foster-care

'adoption home studies' sure makes it sound as tho CPS is proceeding w/ terminating parental rights. (JMOOOC)

Texas Mist
04-20-2010, 05:24 PM
Just got a tweet from KXAN news saying TCSO arrested Julian's dad for a probation violation

ETA

Soliz dad arrested on violation

Updated: Tuesday, 20 Apr 2010, 4:21 PM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 20 Apr 2010, 4:20 PM CDT

Leonard Charles "Ivan" Soliz - the father of a 5-year-old found dead almost two weeks ago - was arrested on Tuesday for allegedly violating probation, sheriff's officials said.

TCSO spokesman Roger Wade said Soliz had been taken into custody on a motion to revoke his probation, but did not give any details on what the violation.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/breaking_news/soliz-dad-arrested-on-violation

Texas Mist
04-20-2010, 06:44 PM
<snip>


The Travis County Sheriff’s Office confirmed the boy's father, Leonard “Ivan” Soliz, was taken into custody Tuesday. Court documents obtained by KVUE News show Soliz violated probation when drug tests showed marijuana in his system, he failed to pay court costs and supervision fees, did not complete 30 hours of community service, drove a vehicle without a valid license and was found to have a set of brass knuckles.

Soliz was on probation for a misdemeanor assault and burglary committed in March 2009. Court documents show he and his brother forced their way into a man's home and assaulted him by grabbing his neck and hitting him in the head.

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Father-of-5-year-old-homicide-victim-arrested-on-probation-violation-91647629.html

Kimberlyd125
04-20-2010, 06:47 PM
Gosh, this is bad timing for a father who just lost a child.
Unless, they think he may have had something to do with it.
Not saying he did, just thinking out loud.

Texas Mist
04-21-2010, 02:29 AM
<snip>

While sheriff's detectives say the boy was killed by someone he knew, they have yet to reveal any suspects and caution that APD's arrest of the boys' father, Leonard Soliz, for a parole violation is purely coincidental and not connected to the murder investigation. Police say Soliz violated his parole before March 18Th when they filed paperwork in court. Soliz wasn't arrested until a month later -- 10 days after his son's murder. Residents who live close to where the boy's body was found are confident investigators are just being thorough.

"I feel like they they know more than what they are telling so obviously, they have somebody that they have got in mind as a suspect and I'm sure that once they investigate it fully they'll let the public know as to what their findings are," said Kelvin Jackson, a Wells Branch resident.

more here - including a video

http://www.kvue.com/news/Parole-violation-lands-father-of-murdered-5-year-old-in-jail-91665254.html

DairyGirl
04-21-2010, 02:49 AM
<snip>

While sheriff's detectives say the boy was killed by someone he knew, they have yet to reveal any suspects and caution that APD's arrest of the boys' father, Leonard Soliz, for a parole violation is purely coincidental and not connected to the murder investigation. Police say Soliz violated his parole before March 18Th when they filed paperwork in court. Soliz wasn't arrested until a month later -- 10 days after his son's murder. Residents who live close to where the boy's body was found are confident investigators are just being thorough.

"I feel like they they know more than what they are telling so obviously, they have somebody that they have got in mind as a suspect and I'm sure that once they investigate it fully they'll let the public know as to what their findings are," said Kelvin Jackson, a Wells Branch resident.

more here - including a video

http://www.kvue.com/news/Parole-violation-lands-father-of-murdered-5-year-old-in-jail-91665254.html

Yeah, purely coincidental.

Texas Mist
04-22-2010, 11:58 AM
http://media2.myfoxaustin.com//photo/2010/04/21/Soliz,_Leonard_(09-30-88)_20100421144504_640_480.JPG

The order to revoke the probation listed several violations committed by Soliz. He tested positive for both marijuana and cocaine, failed to pay court costs, supervision fees and Crime Stopper fees. He also operated a motor vehicle without a license.

He also allegedly possessed brass knuckles.

more here - including video

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/42010-Father-of-Julian-Soliz-Arrested

Harmony2
04-22-2010, 01:02 PM
No official suspect in boy's killing, sheriff's office says
Investigators asking for tips in investigation of 5-year-old Julian Soliz.

By Claudia Grisales
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Published: 8:56 p.m. Tuesday, April 13, 2010

The Travis County sheriff's office is continuing to follow leads in the homicide investigation of 5-year-old Julian Salazar Soliz and says there are no named suspects in the case.

It could be weeks before an official autopsy report is released, a sheriff's spokesman said Tuesday. Meanwhile, investigators are asking for anyone with information about the boy to contact police.

"It's not unusual in these types of cases to not have an official suspect until you have ruled out all the possibilities and come to a scenario that you think happened and can prove it," spokesman Roger Wade said. "We want to make sure justice is done and we don't arrest the wrong person."
......................................
But Soliz acknowledged that he is facing increasing scrutiny because of media reports about his criminal background, which includes assault and burglary charges.
......................................
On Oct. 24, 2006, Soliz was accused of grabbing Turner "around the neck with his hands" and "shoving (her) against the wall with his hand and by choking (her) with his hand," according to court documents. Soliz pleaded no contest to the charge of assault with bodily injury to a family member in the Williamson County case and was ordered to serve 10 days.

In March 2009, Soliz and his brother were accused of burglarizing the home of a relative in Manor, according to an arrest affidavit. According to the affidavit, Soliz forced his way into the home while several small children were present, grabbed the relative in a headlock and choked him. As part of a plea bargain, Soliz pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and was placed on community supervision until 2011. Soliz has to stay away from the relative's home and have "no gang affiliation," court documents said.

Soliz said of that case: "That's people saying stuff about me that's not true."

Last month, Soliz was pulled over for speeding and police discovered that he was driving without insurance and had a prohibited weapon — grip-designed knuckles — in the car, according to an arrest affidavit filed after the March 9 incident.

On March 18, the Travis County district attorney said that Soliz had violated the terms of the 2009 plea agreement and that in addition to the traffic and weapon citations, he had tested positive for marijuana late last year and for cocaine March 5.

more here

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/no-official-suspect-in-boys-killing-sheriffs-office-561397.html

(bolded and underlined by me)

...have "no gang affiliation"...

I wonder why that was included?

Texas Mist
04-22-2010, 01:08 PM
(bolded and underlined by me)

...have "no gang affiliation"...

I wonder why that was included?

I've been trying to figure out if the tattoo on his neck is gang-related.

In the comments left here - http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/42010-Father-of-Julian-Soliz-Arrested - , someone says that LS's tat is a Texas Syndicate tat...but all descriptions & pics of a Tx Synd. tat I can find don't look like what I can see of LS's.

AnnieOakley
04-26-2010, 09:08 AM
Teachers of the 5-year-old boy found dead three weeks ago held a charity event Saturday night to raise money for his family.


http://www.kvue.com/news/Julian-Soliz-teachers-hold-charity-event-92040964.html

I don't mean to sound tacky, but I hope the money is paid directly to the funeral home or other service providers... JMO.

I am very discouraged that there is no more movement in an arrest in this case....

Silvahalo
05-18-2010, 11:22 PM
This case happened here, where I've lived for almost 20 yr, and I got to say I am VERY disappointed that an arrest at this point has not been made, it's really upsetting.

Did I miss a release on the autopsy results? I've been checking and still haven't seen a thing on it. Excuse my ignorance if it was already posted.

I want to see justice for little Julian. I think of him often as I see my 6 yo growing and moving on in life. Rest in peace little one.
http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s341/silvahalo68/Fallen%20angels/FallenAngels2/JulianSoliz.jpg

Texas Mist
05-19-2010, 01:06 AM
This case happened here, where I've lived for almost 20 yr, and I got to say I am VERY disappointed that an arrest at this point has not been made, it's really upsetting.

Did I miss a release on the autopsy results? I've been checking and still haven't seen a thing on it. Excuse my ignorance if it was already posted.

I want to see justice for little Julian. I think of him often as I see my 6 yo growing and moving on in life. Rest in peace little one.
http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s341/silvahalo68/Fallen%20angels/FallenAngels2/JulianSoliz.jpg


I don't think you've missed any reports of the autopsy OR arrest, Silvahalo...I check every day & haven't found anything...not hearing anything on local news either. :(

We have a friend (a Vietnam veteran who's disabled) that we pick up/drop off often - he lives in the same apartment complex that Julian "went missing" from.....it feels so odd to be there & drive away - especially at nite, wondering how a 5-yr old could have walked away from there & ended up way over at Wells Port Drive & Wells Port Cove in the dark!!

I hope LE is busy building a case & making sure there's justice for little Julian!!

Kat
05-19-2010, 10:57 AM
I've been trying to figure out if the tattoo on his neck is gang-related.

In the comments left here - http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/42010-Father-of-Julian-Soliz-Arrested - , someone says that LS's tat is a Texas Syndicate tat...but all descriptions & pics of a Tx Synd. tat I can find don't look like what I can see of LS's.

Hi Texas Mist. Is there a picture or video where I can have a look at his tatto? I can't seem to find a clear shot. TIA!

Texas Mist
05-19-2010, 02:21 PM
Hi Texas Mist. Is there a picture or video where I can have a look at his tatto? I can't seem to find a clear shot. TIA!

Here's a better view of the tat on his neck (better than what's in his mugshot -- see post #85 upthread)


http://websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1183&pictureid=10287

I found it here - still looking for better shot of it.

http://galleries.statesman.com/gallery/mourning-death-julian-soliz-041210/#75394

reen
05-19-2010, 02:40 PM
The silence is bothering me too. They must know something by now!

The tat on his neck does not look like a Texas Syndiccate one to me...I believe they usually use an overlapping "T" and "S." I know this because my workplace (with the initials T and S) was designing a new logo that looked like that and someone on the committee shouted "Noooo! That's a Texas Syndicate logo!" :O This looks like a typical Lone Star depiction IMO.

Texas Mist
05-28-2010, 02:00 AM
The silence is bothering me too. They must know something by now!

The tat on his neck does not look like a Texas Syndiccate one to me...I believe they usually use an overlapping "T" and "S." I know this because my workplace (with the initials T and S) was designing a new logo that looked like that and someone on the committee shouted "Noooo! That's a Texas Syndicate logo!" :O This looks like a typical Lone Star depiction IMO.

Over another week has gone by -- no news!! We're going on 7 weeks come this Saturday w/ nothing outta LE.

ITA - surely TCSO knows something by now about what happened to him....aagghh - so frustrating when there's no updates....we drove down Shoreline today past the Estates apartment complex...my heart always sinks when we take that route. :(

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
05-31-2010, 10:17 PM
Seven weeks later, 5-year-old's death remains unsolved

Sheriff's office says it is working hard to solve Julian Soliz's killing, but release of information could damage investigation.

Seven weeks have passed since 5-year-old Julian Salazar Soliz was found dead, his body abandoned in front of a North Austin home.

Little is known about the investigation into who killed the energetic little boy who liked to sing to his teachers. No suspects have been named. It's unclear how Julian died, and sheriff's investigators have told the county medical examiner's office not to publicly release the preliminary autopsy findings. Any developments in the case are being tightly held.

[snip]

For now, Wade said, key details in the case, including any autopsy findings, are not being released to avoid putting out information that "aids and assists the perpetrator of the case." However, Wade emphasized that the investigation has become a priority: a detective has been assigned full time, and additional resources, including deputies who were on light duty, have been drawn in to assist.

They have been combing through tips, witness interviews and surveillance videos close to the Wells Branch neighborhood where Julian was found, Wade said.

One detail about the investigation remains clear: Julian was not killed by a stranger.

More: http://www.statesman.com/news/local/seven-weeks-later-5-year-olds-death-remains-719500.html

utmomof2
06-01-2010, 01:56 AM
This is the first that I have heard of this case. What a sweet little boy :(

Kat
06-01-2010, 09:20 PM
Here's a better view of the tat on his neck (better than what's in his mugshot -- see post #85 upthread)


http://websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1183&pictureid=10287

I found it here - still looking for better shot of it.

http://galleries.statesman.com/gallery/mourning-death-julian-soliz-041210/#75394

Hi Texas Mist. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to respond. From the view it looks like it resembles a texas star. A five point star. Could it be a Blood tattoo? I don't have the time or available resources to look at this moment. JMHO.

ETA: The marks shaved into the eyebrow are done by gangs FWIW. But that has passed into the mainstream also and doesn't always indicate gang activity any more.

reen
06-02-2010, 10:03 AM
Yes, it's just a Texas Lone Star. A good shot is #9 in the slideshow here:

http://fwix.com/austin/share/959bf98b65/wells_branch_school_mourns_loss_of_5-year-old_julian_soliz

WHY have they not named a suspect or even a POI in this case? I'm so frustrated. This tiny precious one deserves better than this. :(

Kat
06-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Thank You Reen. I looked at his neck and what we can see on his arms. I'm not seeing anything that screams Texas Syndicate tattoos. The star could be an association with a number of gangs but Bloods come to mind and they are reported to be active in SE Austin. I'm sure he has a lot covered up. JMHO.

Texas Mist
06-09-2010, 06:39 PM
Yes, it's just a Texas Lone Star. A good shot is #9 in the slideshow here:

http://fwix.com/austin/share/959bf98b65/wells_branch_school_mourns_loss_of_5-year-old_julian_soliz

WHY have they not named a suspect or even a POI in this case? I'm so frustrated. This tiny precious one deserves better than this. :(

BBM - I hope they are just getting all their ducks in a row...sounds like those kids were living their own private hell.



06/07/2010 01:26 PM
Judge: Julian Soliz case the worst she’s ever seen

By: News 8 Austin Staff

Two months after a five-year-old boy was found dead in a yard of a North Austin home, his parental guardians appeared in family court for custody of the children living with them at the time of his death.

Julian Soliz went missing the morning of Saturday, April 10 and was found dead less than a mile from his home about five hours later.

No one is currently charged in connection with the 5-year-old's death.

At the time of his death, Julian was living with his father, Leonard Soliz, his father’s common-law wife, Nicole Turner, and Turner’s two children. Both children were removed from the home following Julian’s death.

Monday, Soliz and Turner went before 126th Judicial District Civil Court Judge Darlene Byrne. They were seeking custody of Turner’s five-year-old daughter and the 9-month-old son they had together.

Based on the statements of Turner’s daughter, Judge Byrne said out of the hundreds of cases she's seen in her career, this is by far the worst. The young girl allegedly observed horrific events and made traumatic statements.

The judge decided Turner's two children will remain in CPS custody.

She is allowed two hours a week supervised visitation with her 9-month-old son but not with her daughter.



http://news8austin.com/content/top_stories/271618/judge--julian-soliz-case-the-worst-she-s-ever-seen

WTH was going on that was so "horrific" that wasn't being reported by SOMEbody to CPS???? :furious:

(I don't think I'm allowed to say much more about what I think about what happened to little Julian.)

JLMcKenna83
06-09-2010, 07:43 PM
This all goes right back to the question that I asked before... WTH happened to that little girl that she needs therapy? I don't even want to imagine... And it's bad enough that they'd keep the 5 year old away from the mother but not the baby?? It's because the baby wouldn't know anything... I wonder how the infant acts during those supervised visits?

reen
06-11-2010, 04:49 PM
This all goes right back to the question that I asked before... WTH happened to that little girl that she needs therapy? I don't even want to imagine... And it's bad enough that they'd keep the 5 year old away from the mother but not the baby?? It's because the baby wouldn't know anything... I wonder how the infant acts during those supervised visits?

Here's a newer article, it's about the custody hearing.

http://news8austin.com/content/top_stories/271618/judge--julian-soliz-case-the-worst-she-s-ever-seen

But they STILL haven't made an arrest here! What the...???

darlin gal
07-02-2010, 06:54 PM
Authorities this afternoon have charged a woman in the April death of a 5-year-old boy.
Nichole Turner, 22, was booked into the Travis County Jail this afternoon on a charge of injury to a child. Her bail was set at $100,000.
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/shared-blogs/austin/blotter/upload/2010/07/caretaker_charged_in_death_of/M5X175_42B4_9-thumb.JPG (http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/shared-blogs/austin/blotter/upload/2010/07/caretaker_charged_in_death_of/M5X175_42B4_9.JPG)
Julian Salazar Soliz, 5, had been reported missing April 10 from the Estates at Shoreline apartment where he had been staying. He was found dead nearly two miles away.
Turner called police at 7 a.m. to report that Julian had disappeared 90 minutes earlier, sheriff’s officials have said. School officials for Wells Branch Elementary, where Julian was in kindergarten, said he missed the two previous days of school.


http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/07/02/caretaker_charged_in_death_of.html




Finally, an arrest and the beginning of justice for little Julian.

darlin gal
07-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Soliz's autopsy concluded he had died from blunt blunt force trauma to his abdomen. This injury could not be attributed to a car accident or a fall, police said.
The charge faced by Turner, 22, is a first-degree felony. Bond was set at $100,000.00.
A 1st degree felony is punishable by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for life or for any term of not more than 99 years or less than 5 years.
Here are some of the points made in the arrest affidavit:


Nichole also described “whooping” Julian on Tuesday (April 6) for lying. She later said this occurred on Wednesday (April 7). She described how she hit Julian with a black leather belt because he had told a lie. Nichole described that as she was doing this, she had a hold of Julian’s hand and he was moving around while she was hitting him with the belt. Nichole said she hit Julian on his buttocks with the belt 3 or 4 times. Then when Julian’s pants were down, she hit him with her hand on his buttocks.
Nichole was also interviewed by Child Protective Services Investigator Michael Bradburn and she advised Bradburn on Tuesday, April 6 she whipped Julian with a belt 3 or 4 times. He was moving around so she had to switch to her hand and pull his pants down and spanked him 3 or 4 times on the buttocks. As Nichole was doing this, Julian fell to the ground and Nichole had a hold of him by his wrist. Julian continued moving about and she continued holding him by the wrist as she was swinging the belt. Nichole admitted that the belt could have struck Julian on the head and could have struck him in the stomach. Nichole said she realized that she had lost control.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/father%27s-girlfriend-charged-in-death

PMLsmom
07-02-2010, 07:46 PM
IMHO I don't think a BELT would do so much blunt force trauma as to kill, but I could be really wrong...Glad to hear of an arrest finally. Thank you for the update.

JLMcKenna83
07-02-2010, 08:17 PM
How sad... I'm so so sorry Julian. I'm glad they caught your monster.

Kat
07-02-2010, 11:26 PM
Oh Julian :cry:

I'm just so sorry baby boy.

darlin gal
07-04-2010, 12:27 PM
The woman charged in the April death of 5 year old Julian Salazar Soliz has been released from the Travis County Jail on $100,000 bail.
Nichole Turner, 22, was booked and charged with injury to a child Friday, and was released that night around 11:30 p.m.
Turner, who authorities say is Julian's father's girlfriend, was baby-sitting the boy when she reported him missing April 10th.
Later that day, the boy's body was found in a grassy area in Wells Branch.
According to a court affadavit, Turner admitted to beating Julian with a belt.
The medical examiner later said the child died from blunt force trauma to the abdomen.


http://www.kvue.com/home/Woman-charged-in-childs-death-released-from-jail-97764984.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

reen
07-06-2010, 01:11 PM
Now I see what the holdup was...they were working on trying to get a murder charge but couldn't. I wish they could, he obviously died from injuries from something other than a belt! Can we say multiple punches to the stomach?!? Just admit it, lady!

And how did he get a mile away? It saddens me deeply to think he was hurting so bad that he wandered away looking for help, or a family member, or his school...and died alone and in such pain.

What a waste of a precious little one's life. He doesn't hurt anymore.

aspiring drifter
07-17-2010, 08:51 PM
my husband works at the paper here and brought a paper home shortly after her release and there was an article (that i didn't read) where she had taken back what she said about the beating and that she was babysitting him and boasting about doing it for FREE, with no money from the mom or dad. this all said through her lawyer that she has now apparently.

aspiring drifter
12-31-2010, 11:37 PM
i still remember you little guy. i know what it's like to be forgotten. ^(*=*)>

aspiring drifter
04-10-2012, 10:17 PM
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/austin/trial-under-way-in-2010-child-death

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/Family-of-Julian-Soliz-Gathers-for-Trial-20120410-ktbcw

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/trial-of-woman-accused-in-childs-2010-death-2293205.html

aspiring drifter
04-11-2012, 04:38 PM
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/witnesses-in-boys-beating-death-case-testify-to-2295721.html

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/courts/entries/2012/04/11/nichole_turner_trial_continues.html?cxntfid=blogs_ austin_legal

aspiring drifter
04-11-2012, 11:44 PM
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/prosecutors-focus-on-cell-records-in-child-death-2298240.html?cxtype=rss_news

aspiring drifter
04-12-2012, 08:36 PM
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/courts/entries/2012/04/12/julian_solis_fun_sweet_father.html

aspiring drifter
04-15-2012, 05:47 PM
i know i'm the only one here but Turner was found guilty of Julian's death.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/nichole-turner-found-guilty-of-injury-to-a-2303636.html

Kat
04-16-2012, 09:39 PM
She got 35 years.

from aspiring drifter's link:


Prosecutors said that Turner was behind the black eye and broken collarbone Julian suffered in March 2010.

Turner also admitted to detectives that she beat Julian with a belt and her hands in the days preceding the child's death, according to testimony.

PMLsmom
04-28-2012, 10:51 AM
Can a mod update the title to "Guilty?" TIA