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TripleA
04-12-2010, 08:49 PM
These are the photos that are listed as "Alive" in People Magazine:

The Denmark Girls http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01521.jpg
The Farah Fawcet Girl http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02081.jpg
The Red Coat w/Fur Collar Girl http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00591.jpg
The little girl with Blonde Hair, Blue Shirt, and Overalls http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00304.jpg
The Curly Black Hair Girl with Purple Shirt/Coat http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00861.jpg
The Red Head Girl with Peachy/Orange Shirt http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01931.jpg
The Purple Bell Bottom Girl http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02001.jpg
The Tube Top Dress Girl in Chair http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01231.jpg
The Girl Leaning on Fence in Blue Shirt http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01301.jpg
The Long Blonde Hair Young Girl with Colorful Beaded Necklaces http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02061.jpg
The Long Hair Brunette Laying on Floor with Eyes Open http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00482.jpg

Redbird
04-12-2010, 08:54 PM
Thanks, TripleA

TripleA
04-12-2010, 09:02 PM
It does say that "So far about 20 women have come forward to cross themselves off the list..."

The magazine only accounts for a dozen though.

Your welcome Redbird.

Herding Cats
04-12-2010, 09:20 PM
I have been sooooooo worried about the little blonde with the bright smile and blue shirt...so worried.

Thanks so much for posting this...I'm so relieved some of them are safe and all right.

Best-
Herding Cats

LovinTK
04-12-2010, 09:31 PM
It's kind of starting to irk me that LE doesn't just come out and say which girls have been ID'D or just ask the media outlets to delete the pictures that they no longer need help identifying. They don't have to give their names to the public. I keep hearing of more and more women coming forward to state that they are alive and well and I'm happy for them but I'm starting to feel like LE is wasting my time. I am looking for people that they have already identified when my time could be put towards people who really need the help. I'm starting to wonder if all of these women are fine. I don't mean to complain and I'm happy to help but I just feel like LE is wasting my time at this point. How hard could it possibly be to let us know who we no longer need to look for? Sorry for the rant.

TripleA
04-12-2010, 09:36 PM
I would like to know who the others are who have come forward...not names, just which photos. The ones I have seen that have come forward openly look very different after all of these years. With the exception of family and friends, I bet many of them would not be recognised. IOW, no reason for them not to just take the pics down or put a beautiful "IDENTIFIED" banner across the pics.

Bargle
04-12-2010, 09:47 PM
LovinTK and TripleA, consider youselves seconded (and thirded perhaps). We ain't asking for names and addresses, just which girls are alive and don't need to be looked at anymore.

Cupcakeslayer
04-12-2010, 09:49 PM
you said "People Magazine April 19th" does that mean its not on newstands yet? I want to get it, See if it has any more on What the girls remember about Alcala, maybe some of his "moves" (even if they speak up anonymously)

Maybe one of the 20 is the girl with "The little girl with Blonde Hair, Blue Shirt, and Overalls"

I feel like the thoughts of the LE is we have enough to get him, why not put our manpower into current crimes - i wish thee was one organized website instead of flipping through 3+ websites to find them all, and of course would love to know whos identified

TripleA
04-12-2010, 09:55 PM
It is on the shelves, but has an issue date of April 19. It has Justin Bieber on the cover (which is the only reason that I have a copy since my 7yo used her Walmart gift card to buy it lol). Nothing on the cover at all indicating that this story and photos are in there.

TripleA
04-12-2010, 09:57 PM
Oh, and there are 12 photos (the 11 links above, one that has two girls) in the magazine, including the little blonde girl, but the text says "about 20". So that leaves about 8 more not named, but ID'd already by LE.

Cupcakeslayer
04-12-2010, 10:06 PM
for once im looking forward to getting gas in the morning! lol (11 links = 13 girls Denmark girls and blond girl since theres pics with her close to some other girl)

i read somewhere that some pics had writing on the back - i wonder if some of those were easily identified and never released to the public, and part of the 20?

TripleA
04-12-2010, 10:08 PM
11 links = 12 girls (1 link has 2 Denmark Girls plus 10 other girls)

Cupcakeslayer
04-12-2010, 10:10 PM
i see that now i got confused because i thought the blue shirt girl was IDed with the other girl she was with =]

Donjeta
04-13-2010, 03:15 AM
Wonder if the little blonde could ID the other one she was photographed with (the yellow Corvette t-shirt brunette). http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00552.jpg?w=150&h=102 If she couldn't tell if the other one was safe or it must not have been a really close relative or a friend but they look awfully cosy together in some shots.

And she
http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02061.jpg
might have been able to identify the other girl photographed with her
http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02071.jpg
(At least I think it's the same blonde in both photos because the background looks the same and the necklaces match.)

All the photos listed here as alive have a "posed" quality IMO. Most of them are dressed, obviously posing for the camera, just one or two people focused in the shot, there is no mess in the background, taken outside or if it's inside it's not his clutter in the background. They are among Alcala's more professional photographs, IMO.

There are no photos here from the other bunch that look more like they've been snapped unplanned.

The question is, if we can make the conclusion that the people in these more professional looking shots are more likely to be alive and the people in the other kinds of shots are more at risk for having been a victim...? Or if the People magazine just chose the most aesthetic ones to be published and decided that the unflattering cluttered shots of drunken / naked people wouldn't look good on their pages? Maybe if they identified some people in the unflattering photos they told the police they would prefer not to be singled out because they were embarrassed by the photos or if Alcala had molested them?

Donjeta
04-13-2010, 07:01 AM
At a glance:
http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01521.jpg?w=102&h=150http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00591.jpg?w=102&h=150http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00304.jpg?w=102&h=150http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00861.jpg?w=102&h=150
http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01311.jpg?w=102&h=150http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01861.jpg?w=102&h=150http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02001.jpg?w=102&h=150http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02081.jpg?w=102&h=150
http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00482.jpg?w=150&h=140http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02061.jpg?w=150&h=119http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01931.jpg?w=133&h=150

BeanE
04-13-2010, 10:21 AM
These are the ones I couldn't find threads for to mark Found Alive. They may not have threads, but if anyone comes across one, please poke me and I'll mark it.

Thanks!
BeanE

Here's the updated list of those left to find and mark (if they have threads):

The Curly Black Hair Girl with Purple Shirt/Coat
http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00861.jpg

The Long Blonde Hair Young Girl with Colorful Beaded Necklaces http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/02061.jpg

The Long Hair Brunette Laying on Floor with Eyes Open http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00482.jpg

Fukiyama
04-13-2010, 10:58 AM
you said "People Magazine April 19th" does that mean its not on newstands yet? I want to get it, See if it has any more on What the girls remember about Alcala, maybe some of his "moves" (even if they speak up anonymously)

Maybe one of the 20 is the girl with "The little girl with Blonde Hair, Blue Shirt, and Overalls"

I feel like the thoughts of the LE is we have enough to get him, why not put our manpower into current crimes - i wish thee was one organized website instead of flipping through 3+ websites to find them all, and of course would love to know whos identified
If anyone here has the time and the webspace, I think it would go a long way towards helping efforts by saving (or taking screenshots of the unsaveable) all the pictures at the different websites, weeding out duplicates, and putting them all up at a single webpage grouped according to 'Found Alive', and these girls look similar, etc. etc.

I'm still not even sure what all the websites are besides Nancy Grace and the OC Register...

CarlK90245
04-13-2010, 11:42 AM
I heard on the local (Los Angeles) radio news that the actual number of persons who have come forward is 21 (not 20), and that none of the photos have been connected to any unsolved murders or missing persons.

Cupcakeslayer
04-13-2010, 06:17 PM
If anyone here has the time and the webspace, I think it would go a long way towards helping efforts by saving (or taking screenshots of the unsaveable) all the pictures at the different websites, weeding out duplicates, and putting them all up at a single webpage grouped according to 'Found Alive', and these girls look similar, etc. etc.

I'm still not even sure what all the websites are besides Nancy Grace and the OC Register...


seatle times =] , then theres some county sheriffs offices sites. See the sticky thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98550


Id work up my own website - i have the time and organizing ideas, but am unsure of copyright laws pertaining to this and obtaining webspace

Fukiyama
04-13-2010, 07:07 PM
seatle times =] , then theres some county sheriffs offices sites. See the sticky thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98550


Id work up my own website - i have the time and organizing ideas, but am unsure of copyright laws pertaining to this and obtaining webspace
The photos themselves I would assume are public domain since they were released by government/LE. The sites hosting them (Nancy Grace, OC Register, etc.) wouldn't have any claim to them. I will see about putting together all of them here soon.

Donjeta
04-21-2010, 06:36 PM
http://www.wpix.com/media/photo/2010-04/53403604.jpg

reasypeasy
04-22-2010, 03:59 PM
I would like to know who the others are who have come forward...not names, just which photos. The ones I have seen that have come forward openly look very different after all of these years. With the exception of family and friends, I bet many of them would not be recognised. IOW, no reason for them not to just take the pics down or put a beautiful "IDENTIFIED" banner across the pics.

This is going to sound mighty cold and cynical, but just because someone has come forward to say "That's me!" doesn't mean they are telling the truth. A story of a close encounter with a serial killer and then finding yourself in his photos decades later is a powerfully interesting anecdote to tell people. These events happened a long time ago and people tempted to tell lies might feel they are unlikely to be caught out, and if they are caught out there are unlikely to be consequences as they can argue that yes they did get photographed, they were just mistaken about that particular image of someone who looks like them but isn't them, and Alcala must have thrown their picture away.

So I can understand the police not being in a hurry to take down pictures.

Redbird
04-22-2010, 05:12 PM
You have a point there. Or even a sympathizer of Alcala claiming to be in one of the pictures just to eliminate it.

smarties
04-23-2010, 09:36 PM
there's a good chance that a lot of those women don't even remember their photos being taken, or forgot about it until now. Some of them may never be identified, but my sense is that it's very unlikely that all of those women were murdered. Some, possibly...and some may have died since then for other reasons like illness etc.

Penny_Lane
04-30-2010, 09:53 AM
I'm new to ws and have been trying to keep up with the Alcala case. I didn't get to purchase a copy of the People Magazine that featured this article and pictures. Is there a site that has pictures of the jewelry he kept other than just in the magazine? Thank you!


sorry to quote myself guys..but I ran across this lady and her blog. Thought I would share with everyone!
http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2010/04/10/lets-do-something-about-psychopaths-like-rodney-alcala/