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Paladine
04-13-2010, 11:19 PM
School committee meeting on Wednesday. On the 4 month anniversary of Phoebe's death...notice all the "4"'s? Wonder what the astrology peeps would think of this...

SOUTH HADLEY, Mass. (WWLP) - The South Hadley School Committee meets tomorrow night, but there's no posted agenda on the town website.

Outspoken South Hadley Concerned parent Luke Gelinas told 22News he's hoping for a large turnout of parents and a call for the School Committee to take a stand on the Phoebe prince suicide and bullying investigation.
http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/School-committee-prepares-for-meeting-

BeenaBobba
04-13-2010, 11:48 PM
School committee meeting on Wednesday. On the 4 month anniversary of Phoebe's death...notice all the "4"'s? Wonder what the astrology peeps would think of this...

http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/School-committee-prepares-for-meeting-

Should be very, very interesting!

From your link:


I really hope they're not gonna rush to renew contracts tomorrow night. That would be totally inappropriate at this point," said Gelinas.

Hear, hear!

Laurence
04-14-2010, 12:05 AM
School committee meeting on Wednesday. On the 4 month anniversary of Phoebe's death...notice all the "4"'s? Wonder what the astrology peeps would think of this...

http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/School-committee-prepares-for-meeting-

This will probably be a good glimpse into just how much down coverup land the school administrative structure is inclined to go. I am prepared to be underwhelmed at the reports on what transpires.

Paladine
04-14-2010, 12:11 AM
Well, Lawrence, I'm so excited I'm going to bed early...lol...I'll be full of vigor in the a.m...or at least not as tired as usual. ;)

Have a good night, bud....:)

BeenaBobba
04-14-2010, 12:12 AM
This will probably be a good glimpse into just how much down coverup land the school administrative structure is inclined to go. I am prepared to be underwhelmed at the reports on what transpires.

I agree. What they don't say/do may be just as important as what they do!

WaddupYo
04-14-2010, 10:29 AM
Good morning lovelies!

Spoke about this last night with my husband. I got all emotional and teary eyed. I hope something good comes out of this today. Just wish we could all be there.

Paladine
04-14-2010, 11:22 AM
Good morning lovelies!

Spoke about this last night with my husband. I got all emotional and teary eyed. I hope something good comes out of this today. Just wish we could all be there.

Good morning, waddup, good morning to all our Phoebe posters! :)

Just woke up and checking for news. I'm hoping sanity prevails in South Hadley, although I have my doubts. Some seem determined to live in a fantasy world where Gus Sayer and Dan Smith AREN'T idiots. We'll see. IMO

WaddupYo
04-14-2010, 11:54 AM
Anything new?

daisy7
04-14-2010, 12:09 PM
What time is the meeting tonight?

Paladine
04-14-2010, 01:14 PM
Meeting is at 6:30 p.m. tonight...
http://www.masslive.com/metrowest/republican/index.ssf?/base/news-25/1271229379245540.xml&coll=1

Paladine
04-14-2010, 01:15 PM
reposting this on this thread...

IMO: I THINK what has happened is the school committee has pulled a fast move. They needed to stop O'Brien, they saw what an effect O'Brien was having as the unofficial spokesperson for the Prince's. Dr. Phil was crushing for them, I'd bet, yet so good for the Princes. They we're able get Phoebe's story out there without having to commit to it being OFFICIALLY from them. If the Princes had an qualms about O'Brien acting as their unofficial spokesperson, I'd bet they would have spoke up.

So...the school committee calls the Prince's Attorney and asks if O'Brien is the spokesperson. Naturally, imo...the attorney said, no. So, they call him an impersonator! Smooth but transparent, to me. They want to cut his support off before the meeting tonight. Shameful, imo.
http://www.masslive.com/metrowest/republican/index.ssf?/base/news-25/1271229379245540.xml&coll=1

Paladine
04-14-2010, 01:18 PM
Anything new?
Not sure, yet. Having a look around. My computer has not been cooperative. I'm on a new one which feels like a new pair of shoes, to me...very uncomfortable. ;)

WaddupYo
04-14-2010, 06:59 PM
LIVE

http://www.wwlp.com/generic/video/player_page/WWLP-live-stream

adnoid
04-14-2010, 08:40 PM
LIVE

http://www.wwlp.com/generic/video/player_page/WWLP-live-stream

But the audio for me is so low I can't hear a damned thing.

Paladine
04-14-2010, 08:42 PM
SOUTH HADLEY (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - Critics spoke out for the resignation of school officials at South Hadley High school at a crowded and heated school committee meeting on Wednesday night.

speakers who went before the committee calling for the resignation of Superintendent Gus A. Sayer and Principal Daniel T. Smith were cut off by School Committee Chairman Edward J. Boisselle and then escorted out by police.

People also spoke in support of the superintendent and principal, saying "South Hadley needs to heal."
Critics we're essentially DRAGGED OUT BY POLICE...

Where did we hear today that South Hadley needs to "heal"? OH, Yes! at that staged rally!! IMO


The three girls who initiated this rally told us why they thought it was important to do this, “We wanted to have this rally to support ourselves, support our community, everybody, and just make a positive experience out of it all and make everybody heal from this.”

3 girls...Maybe...Betty? Shae? And who?

http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/s-hadley-students-organize-peace-rally
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/critics-call-for-south-hadley-administrators-to-step-down-20100414

BeenaBobba
04-14-2010, 09:09 PM
Critics we're essentially DRAGGED OUT BY POLICE...

Where did we hear today that South Hadley needs to "heal"? OH, Yes! at that staged rally!! IMO


3 girls...Maybe...Betty? Shae? And who?

http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/s-hadley-students-organize-peace-rally
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/critics-call-for-south-hadley-administrators-to-step-down-20100414

Here's another link regarding the rally:

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/south_hadley_students_stage_ra.html

I was surprised to see a particular student there, as her name (whether fairly or unfairly) has been associated with the bullies to some extent.

Paladine
04-14-2010, 09:36 PM
WHY was someone escorted out by police? For daring to mention the name "Prince"!

It was against the rules! Even NOW...Phoebe is silenced. IMO


During the meeting, held at South Hadley High School, Boisselle ejected at least two people, including parent Luke T. Gelinas, saying he said broke rules that asked speakers not to mention the Princes out of consideration for he family.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/south_hadley_parents_school_of.html

BeenaBobba
04-14-2010, 09:46 PM
WHY was someone escorted out by police? For daring to mention the name "Prince"!

It was against the rules! Even NOW...Phoebe is silenced. IMO


During the meeting, held at South Hadley High School, Boisselle ejected at least two people, including parent Luke T. Gelinas, saying he said broke rules that asked speakers not to mention the Princes out of consideration for he family.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/south_hadley_parents_school_of.html

I doubt they based their decision on the feelings of Phoebe's family. Personally, I think they were trying to save face. Why can't they just call a spade a spade?

daisy7
04-14-2010, 10:12 PM
http://media.masslive.com/republican/photo/-a7a2f0500be59f85_custom_665xauto.jpg

http://media.masslive.com/republican/photo/-a7a2f0500be59f85_custom_665xauto.jpg

Jeez-o-flippin-flip! (that's Daisy cursing) :furious:

Paladine
04-14-2010, 10:19 PM
Boisselle's resigning...

SOUTH HADLEY -- Nine days after being reelected, the South Hadley School Committee chairman -- entrenched in criticism over an alleged bullying-related high school student suicide -- announced Wednesday night that he is stepping down from the post.

Edward J. Boisselle, who has served on the board for the past 10 years, including the last year as chairman, was quick to distance the move from being related to the ongoing controversy raised when prosecutors recently said some high school staff knew 15-year-old Phoebe Prince was being harassed by classmates, but did not take action to stop the bullying.

Instead, Boisselle, said at Wednesday night's school board meeting that his action was because, “I’ve always felt that the chairmanship should rotate every year.” Boisselle will remain on the School Committee.

A split, standing-room-only crowd of local residents addressed school officials Wednesday night, expressing both anger and support toward the administrators during a meeting that saw multiple outbursts, including two the first speakers who were removed by police at Boisselle’s request. He said they were kicked out because they “talked about things that should not be talked about in public.”
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/04/south_hadley_sc.html

Paladine
04-14-2010, 10:22 PM
I doubt they based their decision on the feelings of Phoebe's family. Personally, I think they were trying to save face. Why can't they just call a spade a spade?
What's even worse, imo...they hold their bogus rally and then forbid anyone from standing up and speaking out for Phoebe...on the 4 month anniversary of her death. These people are beyond the pale...someone should do some genetic research in this area. ;) IMO

thebear14
04-14-2010, 10:27 PM
What's even worse, imo...they hold their bogus rally and then forbid anyone from standing up and speaking out for Phoebe...on the 4 month anniversary of her death. These people are beyond the pale...someone should do some genetic research in this area. ;) IMO

thanks for that last sentence. made me giggle a bit, ha :)

daisy7
04-14-2010, 10:33 PM
School officials said they have yet to meet with Northwestern District Attorney Elizabeth D. Scheibel to further discuss the details prosecutors uncovered in their investigation into Prince's death. But, said Boiselle, they hope to do soon.

“I take responsibility that we have not gotten together earlier after the actions of the Northwestern district attorney's office,” said Boisselle, who relinquished his chairmanship to vice chairwoman JoAnn Jordan.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/04/south_hadley_sc.html

huh??!! Good riddance to him!!

thebear14
04-14-2010, 10:33 PM
didn't watch the meeting but am catching up on the news now....skimmed the pdf of Luke Gelinas's speech but this part stuck out and made me sick...#5 on the pdf version, btw.


…where Miss Prince stated that she was in fear of immediate bodily harm from her persecutors, requested that she wanted to call her mother and go home, and was told to go back to class

http://media.masslive.com/breakingnews/other/20100414213535.pdf

I know we already knew this but sometimes just re-reading certain things different ways makes them stand out more in your head...if that makes sense (I'm a little tired). Ugh this sentence made me sick to my stomach. I can feel how Phoebe felt in that moment...I can feel how her mother must feel knowing her daughter was trying to reach her and tell her she wanted to come home because she was scared and she was sent back to class. On behalf of both of them, I want to throw up. :banghead:

Paladine
04-14-2010, 10:52 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/04/south_hadley_sc.html

huh??!! Good riddance to him!!
That's just nuts, Daisy...he telegraphs his incompetence with that one simple sentence.

Paladine
04-14-2010, 11:02 PM
Who is she?

"Following the public speak out, the school committee unanimously elected Joanne Jordan to serve as Chairwoman of the South Hadley School Committee."
http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/s-hadley-committee-elects-new-chairman

Paladine
04-14-2010, 11:05 PM
My goodness...it doesn't stop. Does nobody love him? Would someone please tell him he sounds like a dimwitted fool?

SOUTH HADLEY, Mass. (WWLP) - South hadley Superintendent Gus Sayer made a lengthy statement after the public speak out.

Sayer said administrators consistently and immediately disciplined students who were involved in bullying.
http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/sayer-comments-on-prince-bullying

daisy7
04-14-2010, 11:08 PM
Boisselle's resigning...

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/04/south_hadley_sc.html

What a load of carp!! If he really thought thought the chair position should be changed every year, why didn't he just bow out of the election??

Laurence
04-14-2010, 11:17 PM
What's even worse, imo...they hold their bogus rally and then forbid anyone from standing up and speaking out for Phoebe...on the 4 month anniversary of her death. These people are beyond the pale...someone should do some genetic research in this area. ;) IMO

I think my Lovecraft crack a few days ago may be closer to the mark than I realized. :)

BeenaBobba
04-14-2010, 11:25 PM
What a load of carp!! If he really thought thought the chair position should be changed every year, why didn't he just bow out of the election??

I know, right? That's what I'm sayin'! I would have more respect for these people if they were honest about their intentions.

Paladine
04-14-2010, 11:28 PM
I know, right? That's what I'm sayin'! I would have more respect for these people if they were honest about their intentions.
Their main concern seems to appearances. They will not admit to error or defeat or frailty, of any kind...from my observations.

Ironic...because it makes them look worse.

In order to fix a problem...you must first admit you have one.

IMO

adnoid
04-14-2010, 11:33 PM
...someone should do some genetic research in this area. ;) IMO

I'm imagining a family tree that looks like a telephone pole.

BeenaBobba
04-14-2010, 11:44 PM
I'm imagining a family tree that looks like a telephone pole.

Is that "Dueling Banjos" I hear? LOL! J/k. We're so bad!

adnoid
04-14-2010, 11:47 PM
Is that "Dueling Banjos" I hear? LOL! J/k. We're so bad!

Something tells me more than one of the bullies has relatives like "Uncle Dad" sticking up for them on FB.

Paladine
04-14-2010, 11:49 PM
I'm imagining a family tree that looks like a telephone pole.
OMG! LOL! THAT'S perfect! :)

Paladine
04-15-2010, 12:13 AM
He had BETTER start taking SOME responsibility and STOP blaming the VICTIM! IMO...the man is absolutely repulsive.


"After making a statement apologizing for not calling the meeting weeks ago, chairman Edward Boisselle, held a public comment session.
The first two residents at the public speak out were thrown out, complete with police escort.
Emotions bubbled to the brim and eventually boiled over.
The first resident, accused the administration of covering up prior knowledge of Phoebe's death.
He was met by police after saying those in power were a "noose on the neck of the town."
The second parent, Luke Gelanis, was met by police after suggesting several officials be fired.
Later, Superintendent Gus Sayer, addressed questions of prior knowledge of bullying. He issued this explanation, saying officials didn't know the scope of the bullying.
"Tragically, Phoebe Prince herself did not make known to school officials the full extent of the bullying that was tormenting her," Sayer says.
Many complained afterward that the meeting was one-sided.
http://www.cbs3springfield.com/news/local/90904054.html

adnoid
04-15-2010, 12:23 AM
Oh, they didn't know the SCOPE of it? I few days ago they denied they know anything about it at all.

Oh, teller of untruths, your trousers have combusted!

BeenaBobba
04-15-2010, 01:11 AM
I've got some comments to make regarding this article (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/south_hadley_parents_school_of.html).

Well, first off, it seems that Luke Gelinas, a concerned parent, was ejected from the meeting for being "disrespectful" and "a bully" for expressing his anti-administration opinions. You can read Mr. Gelinas' statement here (http://media.masslive.com/breakingnews/other/20100414213535.pdf). Personally, I don't see how his statement could've been construed as disrespectful. On the contrary, I think he brought up valid concerns. Calling him a bully puts him in the same category as Phoebe's tormentors, and quite frankly, I find that incredibly insulting.

Here's a quote from the article:


“I oppose the removal. The removal will not bring back Ms. Prince,” said Matthew McDonough, a parent and business owner. “I urge the committee to reject the call for resignation and go on with the serious business of educating our children.”

Based on my research, there is a popular SHHS student with the same last name. I wonder if he's her father? Wouldn't surprise me in the least!

Another quote:


Numerous parents questioned the School Committee about actions taken against the students. Boisselle did not respond. School officials have said previously that they are restricted legally by what they can say about disciplined students.

I'm not even remotely close to being a legal expert, so does anyone know of a law that would prevent him from speaking out on this? He has spoken out about students being suspended for bullying Phoebe, so why can't he discuss expulsion? :waitasec: Maybe there really is a law that would prevent him from doing so, but it doesn't really make sense to me. After all, take a look (http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/01/massachusetts.bullying.suicide/index.html) at what he said to Anderson Cooper:


Sayer said he supported the punishments meted out to the students.

"If they, as they have been charged, committed crimes, they should face the consequences for those crimes," he said.

But, he added, expulsion is something educators are reluctant to countenance.

"It's a terrible punishment because that changes their whole lives and what they are capable of doing, and they have to figure out a way to renew and complete their education."

BBM. I could be wrong, but I've got a nagging feeling that the accused students were not expelled. Again, I could be wrong, but could this be the real reason that he's so reluctant to discuss the disciplinary action taken?

BeenaBobba
04-15-2010, 01:20 AM
For those who were unable to watch the live streaming of the meeting, you can view a detailed report here (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/live_updates_from_tonights_mee.html).

Paladine
04-15-2010, 01:41 AM
Thanks so much beenabobba...what a great post. I agree...I read rumor they weren't expelled but allowed to 'withdraw', so it wouldn't affect their records. I would not be surprised. I think it may be the case. They are too evasive. They would love nothing more than to say kids WERE expelled to get the public off their back...but, imo, they can't. So, they play their word games...and around and around, we go.

They allowed Boiselle to 'withdraw', in a sense, too. To save face. Someone told me once, "you can't save face and save ass, at the same time". They have learned nothing. It'll come back to bite them. Somehow.

IMO

mitzi
04-15-2010, 04:27 AM
What a load of carp!! If he really thought thought the chair position should be changed every year, why didn't he just bow out of the election??

I haven't posted here in Phoebe's threads, but I have been reading here...and thank you all for posting all the articles and information that you have.

I must comment on Bloiselle's "stepping down"....ITA! What a load of carp! I guess it got too hot in the kitchen for him. I watched the 16+ minute video of the committee meeting, and couldn't believe how he instantly jumped all over that first speaker and then on Gelinas. I thought that Gelinas was not being disrespectful and hitting alot of good points...then Bloiselle started his shreaking. Shame on him. :furious: Did anyone else who watched that video notice the young media guy behind the last speaker? I thought his expressions were amusing to say the least.

mitzi
04-15-2010, 04:33 AM
Thanks so much beenabobba...what a great post. I agree...I read rumor they weren't expelled but allowed to 'withdraw', so it wouldn't affect their records. I would not be surprised. I think it may be the case. They are too evasive. They would love nothing more than to say kids WERE expelled to get the public off their back...but, imo, they can't. So, they play their word games...and around and around, we go.

They allowed Boiselle to 'withdraw', in a sense, too. To save face. Someone told me once, "you can't save face and save ass, at the same time". They have learned nothing. It'll come back to bite them. Somehow.

IMO

They can run, but they can't hide...it will all come out in the end...I don't care if they think they can avoid it by "stepping down"...it will still come out and they will be shamed. I'm just so angry.

thebear14
04-15-2010, 08:32 AM
I've got some comments to make regarding this article (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/south_hadley_parents_school_of.html).

Well, first off, it seems that Luke Gelinas, a concerned parent, was ejected from the meeting for being "disrespectful" and "a bully" for expressing his anti-administration opinions. You can read Mr. Gelinas' statement here (http://media.masslive.com/breakingnews/other/20100414213535.pdf). Personally, I don't see how his statement could've been construed as disrespectful. On the contrary, I think he brought up valid concerns. Calling him a bully puts him in the same category as Phoebe's tormentors, and quite frankly, I find that incredibly insulting.

Here's a quote from the article:



Based on my research, there is a popular SHHS student with the same last name. I wonder if he's her father? Wouldn't surprise me in the least!

Another quote:



I'm not even remotely close to being a legal expert, so does anyone know of a law that would prevent him from speaking out on this? He has spoken out about students being suspended for bullying Phoebe, so why can't he discuss expulsion? :waitasec: Maybe there really is a law that would prevent him from doing so, but it doesn't really make sense to me. After all, take a look (http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/01/massachusetts.bullying.suicide/index.html) at what he said to Anderson Cooper:



BBM. I could be wrong, but I've got a nagging feeling that the accused students were not expelled. Again, I could be wrong, but could this be the real reason that he's so reluctant to discuss the disciplinary action taken?

I agree about Luke Gelinas. I did not find his speech disrespectful at all and don't even understand why he was thrown out. I was half-asleep when I read his speech but I don't recall him saying anything about Phoebe or the Prince family that we didn't already know. Doesn't he have a kid at SHHS? I think that gives him every right to be concerned about what the people in charge are doing over there.

Also, about a law not being able to disclose why students received disciplinary action or whatever - as someone pointed out a few days ago they had no problem disclosing that Phoebe was receiving counseling. If anything, the fact that a student was receiving or had received counseling should not be disclosed - that indeed is an extremely private matter and I would think breaks confidentiality, even if she was a minor and is now deceased.

Paladine
04-15-2010, 11:29 AM
They can run, but they can't hide...it will all come out in the end...I don't care if they think they can avoid it by "stepping down"...it will still come out and they will be shamed. I'm just so angry.

And mitzi...I just read on a board that Boisselle stepped down as chairman BUT he's STILL on the committee! Looking for a link to prove it but apparently it was a shell game....IMO

Paladine
04-15-2010, 12:57 PM
yep...a shell game...do they think the public is as dimwitted as they seem to be?

Board Chairman Edward Boisselle also announced at Wednesday night's meeting that he is stepping down from his leadership post just nine days after his re-election, but will remain on the committee.

http://wbztv.com/local/south.hadley.bullying.2.1634490.html?utm_source=tw itterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Paladine
04-15-2010, 01:40 PM
A heavy police presence surrounded the school last night and one parent was taken from the hall after saying that officials should be hanged.

The comments reflected some of the rage that was directed at administrators.

Another two parents were ushered out of the building after calling for the removal of Boisselle, Superintendent Gus Sayer and Principal Dan Smith.

Prince family friend Darby O'Brien said: "I think it's time, Ed, that you stopped attacking other people. You need to hold the officials -- who could have stepped in at any time and stopped this -- accountable."

But the committee defended itself against the allegations, saying some parents had adopted a "mob mentality".

Some parents defended the administrators, arguing that they did all they could to protect Phoebe and should now be allowed to get on with their work"Allowed to get on with their work"?? We've seen the results of their "WORK"! My goodness, therapy for all, I say...
http://www.herald.ie/world-news/phoe...s-2139053.html
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Paladine
04-15-2010, 02:11 PM
a tweet from a newswoman...the tone was set early, imo...


First speaker says "they dropped the ball, get rid of em." He was escorted out by police. #fox25
http://twitter.com/SharmanFox25/statuses/12188466632
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Paladine
04-15-2010, 02:58 PM
"Shouting Erupts In Town Torn By Teen's Suicide
School Board Chairman Orders Parents Out Of Meeting"


In South Hadley, the town torn apart by a teen's suicide following bullying at the local high school, emotions erupted at the local school board meeting Wednesday night.
Police officers had to stop a fiery exchange between school board members and parents and escort several parents out of the meeting at the request of the board chairman.
Throughout the packed meeting Chairman Edward J. Boisselle banged the gavel and tried to quiet the crowd of about 100 parents who said they're won't stand silently by any longer, as they believe too many did, when Phoebe Prince, 15, was bullied at school.
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/most...06/detail.html

Paladine
04-15-2010, 04:54 PM
Credit for this info goes to CF2 from masslive forum...


applying to a school board meeting..
"The school board created a limited public forum when it opened its meetings for public comment, the judge held. As a designated public forum, the school board can only impose time, place and manner restrictions, but could not prohibit the speech based on its content. "

http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.php?i=2779

Paladine
04-15-2010, 05:06 PM
Boisselle might have deepened the problem for South Hadley...I hope those that were silenced sue...


A multi-million dollar lawsuit against the Clarke County School Board may be settled out of court.

A mediation hearing is going to be scheduled in May before a magistrate judge.

Berryville Resident Kenneth Liggins is suing the school board for $10.5 million. He says the board and a government official violated his civil rights and his freedom of speech during a public hearing two years ago.
Liggins claims board members told him to stop talking and sit down. Liggins, who is representing himself on the matter, says he is willing to try and settle outside of court.

And I hope South Hadley REALLY likes Smith and Sayer...it may cost them about 5.25 mil for each of them! ;)

http://www.tv3winchester.com/home/headlines/90033952.html

Paladine
04-15-2010, 06:40 PM
From a college newspape, what example are these people setting for our youth?

From the April 8 issue of The New York Times: "We were aware of some of the things that changed for Phoebe, but we weren't aware of any bullying," Mr. Sayer said. "If she had said she was being bullied we would have acted on it immediately." [emphasis added]

That is bulls---. I'm not one to use vulgarity in a column, but I have never been so viscerally upset upon sitting down to write an article. Simply as a human being, but especially as a future teacher and as a former recipient of always malevolent and sometimes physically violent bullying, I was disgusted by this response.

Let me be clear: It is not in any way, shape or form Prince's fault that she was a victim of bullying. It was not her responsibility to explicitly spell out exactly what was happening to her. It was, however, the job of school officials and teachers to reach out to her in a meaningful way, and it is now the time for these people to own responsibility for allowing such acts of violence to culminate in a tragic suicide.
http://media.www.thelamron.com/media/storage/paper1150/news/2010/04/15/Opinion/School.Officials.Must.Own.Their.Responsibilities-3907036.shtml

Paladine
04-16-2010, 07:52 PM
Atty. weighs in on 1st amendment debate
S. Hadley school committee meeting controversial
Updated: Friday, 16 Apr 2010, 6:59 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 16 Apr 2010, 6:59 PM EDT

Jackie Bruno

SOUTH HADLEY, Mass. (WWLP) - Wednesday’s school committee meeting in South Hadley gave people the ability to respond to the bullying controversy that’s rocked their town. But, it also started controversy of it’s own when the basic right of freedom of speech was challenged.


22News showed video of the meeting to Bill Newman, a civil liberties lawyer. He said he couldn't speak directly to this incident. But, he did explain the law. He said " The decision to remove someone from a meeting and public speak time, the decision to cut somebody off cannot be based on the content. That is the viewpoint of what the speaker is saying."
http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/lawyer-weighs-in-on-first-amendment-debate

Paladine
04-23-2010, 11:25 PM
Now, isn't this an interesting perspective...someone blaming Mr. Gelinas (sp?) for bad behavior?

Wow...is Southwick close to South Hadley? Maybe these people share the same water source...

South Hadley adults set poor example
The image of an angry adult being escorted by police from a South Hadley School Committee meeting about bullying strikes me as ironic. Isn’t one of our goals in preventing bullying and its damaging, if not horrific, effects to teach our children to communicate in non-aggressive ways?

ANNE DIEBOLD
- Southwick

http://www.masslive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/04/letters_south_hadley_adults_se.html

redsky
04-24-2010, 12:05 AM
I am late to this! So I am just catching up.
The quote about her being scared and wanting to call her mom/go home breaks my heart.

I don't know who all of the school board people are but what a bunch of hogwash!

Paladine
04-24-2010, 12:45 AM
I am late to this! So I am just catching up.
The quote about her being scared and wanting to call her mom/go home breaks my heart.

I don't know who all of the school board people are but what a bunch of hogwash!
I know. That hurt me, too. I just want to give the poor girl a hug...

The school board people..well...I don't have the energy tonight to express my outrage at the appropriate decibel.

redsky
04-24-2010, 01:28 AM
I know. That hurt me, too. I just want to give the poor girl a hug...

The school board people..well...I don't have the energy tonight to express my outrage at the appropriate decibel.

Can you send me any articles you think I should read to catch up? There are SO SO many things to read and this case has grabbed my heart and mind.

Paladine
04-24-2010, 01:44 AM
Can you send me any articles you think I should read to catch up? There are SO SO many things to read and this case has grabbed my heart and mind.

Sure. I can put a few links together for you. Maybe I'll make a post with a few main links and post it on the #3 thread...if it's open. If not, I'll post it somewhere and let you know, better than pm'ing because this way if anyone else is new and wants a few basic links they can get it, too. I'll do it Saturday or Sunday...depending on what God has in store for me...;)

But like I said...there will be most missing. You can go back to the #1 thread and read there, too...lots of basic info there and on #2...

There is also the media thread...there is much there...