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flowerlady
05-03-2010, 02:43 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on a possible relationship between the cases of several young women of approximately the same age group and general description missing from the Houston area fairly recently?

We have the case of Alexandria Lowitzer in Spring TX (see http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1551/1551.html) -- missing 04/26/10, Chasity Armstrong in Katy TX (see http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1550/1550.html) -- missing approx. 10 days before Alexandria (at just about the same hour of day), Maya Madey in Bellaire TX (see http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1535/1535.html) -- missing 02/05/10 --

And those are just from so far in 2010...

If one looks 1-3 years back, one can find: Mary Garza in Houston (http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1497/1497.html), Nereyda Rodriguez in Houston (http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1509/1509.html) and Yessenia Zamora in Pasadena (http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1268/1268.html).

The locations are all in the Greater Houston area and all within 90-degrees of Hwy. 59 which (eventually) leads to Nuevo Laredo at the Mexican border.

Even you discount some or all of the last 3 or 4 girls (at least one of whom was known to be in the company of a "boyfriend" at the time of their disappearance), this still leaves at least 2 girls (Alexandria and Chasity) who disappeared within days of each other at approximately the same hour of day.

Thoughts/additional info, anyone?

athy
05-03-2010, 02:52 PM
sounds like if they are related the person is either working and the time has to do with when they're off of work or if they're living with someone when that person is working. giving them certain times that the person can do the kidnapping.

SkewedView
05-03-2010, 04:06 PM
Nereyda and Yessenia look to be more likely to have been lured into trafficking if they didn't just run off with a boyfriend the family didn't approve of. Maya seems to be with a boyfriend as well.

Here's more on Alexandria:
http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/05/03/spring_observer/news/18lowitzer.txt
she's listed as a runaway with the Sheriff's office, but we all know how that goes...not much else to go on though...

Nothing out there on Chastity really other than her designation as 'endangered runaway', which from looking at the texas missing boards seems to be a default designation for teens, so that doesn't seem to mean anything...her mom posted about her on the Missing 911 facebook site here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/MISSING-PERSONS-911/286670205051

Really with the Houston area's history of serial killers and unusual murders, not to mention nasty gangs, nothing would surprise me, but without more info it's impossible to say, and it doesn't look like LE is interested in doing much more than listing these girls on the relevant sites...sigh...

flowerlady
05-04-2010, 02:08 AM
Thank-you very much for your comments and interest, athy and SV...

I was aware that the Sheriff's Dept. had taken Alexandria off of the Amber Alert system a day or two ago but had not, as yet, come by the info that they had reclassified her disappearance to "endangered runaway"; however, I agree with you completely, SV, that this classification seems to be a "default" for them.

As I was saying to another friend interested in the case just yesterday, knowing the sometimes hard-nosed stance that some law enforcement departments can take on matters, one wonders what the criteria for it might be as far as they are concerned, i.e., a simple case of "teenage angst" displayed in the past might, then, qualify as could any known previously exhibited behavior such as staying too long at a friend's house without notifying parents, etc., and what teenager has never done that to some degree?

In Alexandria's case, I find it somewhat difficult to believe that a young girl with the practicality and sense of responsibility that it takes in these troubled economic times to obtain and maintain an after-school job would not, at some point in the last week or so, let her family or friends know that she is okay. The two behaviors are not usually found in concert with each other.

Thank-you for providing the links.

SkewedView
05-04-2010, 10:12 AM
This is why I love living in a (relatively) smaller, quieter community - LE has a lot less missing persons reports to deal with (along with other serious crimes), so they have time to actually listen to what the family thinks and check into it, instead of just looking for whatever flags and making a gut call as fast as possible, as seems to be SOP in larger, busier jurisdictions. In a lot of ways I can't really blame them though, as just looking through the missing persons lists for areas like Houston can get overwhelming...

cluciano63
05-04-2010, 05:28 PM
I saw when I googled her name (Alexandria) that Laura Recovery is there searching, yesterday and today...so that is good news...

SkewedView
05-05-2010, 09:03 AM
I saw when I googled her name (Alexandria) that Laura Recovery is there searching, yesterday and today...so that is good news...

Indeed it is, they are very good.

cluciano63
05-05-2010, 03:14 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/6989928.html

a recovery center case manager says that some of the activites the girl was involved in throw up some red flags and LE said the case is being treated as a runaway...yet the activites listed in this article are softball, a friend's birthday party, playing the flute, singing in the choir and working at a hamburger joint. So if there is something ominious, why don't they say what it is in case someone knows something? This makes no sense at all...

tk71texas
05-05-2010, 03:20 PM
chastity went to my daughter's school....i hate to see girls missing especially when my own is 17 herself.

eyes4crime
05-05-2010, 03:51 PM
April 16th - Friday, 3:00pm - Chasity Armstrong disappears
2nd name ? Chrisy Konvica Armstrong?? Are these two the same person?

April 26th - Monday, 3:00pm, Alexandria Lowitzer disappears

Both girls disappear at 3:00pm? Were they in school? A couple of the Links don't work for me not sure of specifics circumstances. TIA

tk71texas
05-05-2010, 04:06 PM
our schools let out at 2:30.....just fyi

SkewedView
05-05-2010, 07:06 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/6989928.html

a recovery center case manager says that some of the activites the girl was involved in throw up some red flags and LE said the case is being treated as a runaway...yet the activites listed in this article are softball, a friend's birthday party, playing the flute, singing in the choir and working at a hamburger joint. So if there is something ominious, why don't they say what it is in case someone knows something? This makes no sense at all...

The red flags are that her activities are those of a teen who would be very unlikely to just run off and not have any contact with anyone - teens who have a job and are active in after school activities, as well as ones who have made specific plans that they then miss, are not likely to be runaways, and if they are active on social sites and that activity suddenly stops, that is another red flag...and are all things that are often ignored by LE.

IMO, the officer that took the initial report, as is often the case, had no training on what flags to look for when taking a MP report and just did the automatic 'she's a teen so she's a runaway' call - unfortunately initial reports are usually taken by run of the mill officers with a lack of training in MPs (detectives are too few and far between usually to do it themselves and have to rely on the initial reports to triage cases) and assumptions made in that initial report can send an investigation (or lack of one) in entirely the wrong direction, and then it is very hard for a family to get LE to admit that they dropped the ball without hard proof. It is an unfortunate fact that there is just not enough funding to give officers the full range of training they really need (MPs, human trafficking, rape sensitivity etc), especially with most of the training money being sucked up by the drug war.

I really think that instead of focusing on policy changes with regards to MP, groups should be working on finding a way to make sure that your run of the mill street cops that usually take initial reports are properly trained on missing persons red flags, how to talk to families properly (and respectfully!), etc just like they are trained on how to handle a potential crime scene.

All JMO as per usual.

cluciano63
05-05-2010, 07:51 PM
i read the article to say that her activities raised reg flags...that coincided with being a runaway...but did not see any myself...unless again, poor reporting...

SkewedView
05-05-2010, 08:33 PM
i read the article to say that her activities raised reg flags...that coincided with being a runaway...but did not see any myself...unless again, poor reporting...

No, it was just poorly written - it was saying that the Laura people saw red flags (as listed) indicating that she is not a runaway, and is thus more likely to have been abducted or otherwise endangered, but LE doesn't see it that way and has listed her as a runaway, essentially washing their hands of her. I swear sometimes that they hire middle-school students to edit these articles - when I wrote for my school newspaper they had higher standards than the professional media seems to have anymore, IMO.

flowerlady
05-06-2010, 09:56 AM
I WAS a "runaway" at the age of 15 and I can tell you that one of the last things I did before I ran away was get all my money together and draw my savings out of the bank. Ali (Alexandria) left her paycheck at work and hasn't been back to get it. Even more telling than that, she left her cellphone charger at home -- and this from a girl who texted something like 4,000 messages per month...

There is also the matter of the "Alice in Wonderland" themed 16th birthday party for one of her best friends that Ali helped organize and didn't show up for along with the fact that she missed the tournament game that her softball team had been gearing up for.

I agree completely with you Skewed. The initial report was mis-handled which probably gave whoever took Ali plenty of time to dally along the way. Nothing here says "runaway" but it virtually screams "ABDUCTION!" in capital letters...

flowerlady
05-06-2010, 10:03 AM
Oh! I forgot to list the new links to media I have. One of them is the same newspaper report listed above but there are a couple of new videos:

(Oh, and BTW, the Laura Recovery search efforts found nothing.)

http://www.khou.com/news/neighborhood-news/Spring-Still-no-sign-of-missing-teen-92877164.html

http://www.39online.com/news/local/kiah-missing-teen-spring-texas-story,0,2927773.story

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100505-search-resumes-for-missing-teen-girl

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6989928.html

SkewedView
05-06-2010, 12:02 PM
Oh! I forgot to list the new links to media I have. One of them is the same newspaper report listed above but there are a couple of new videos:

(Oh, and BTW, the Laura Recovery search efforts found nothing.)

http://www.khou.com/news/neighborhood-news/Spring-Still-no-sign-of-missing-teen-92877164.html

http://www.39online.com/news/local/kiah-missing-teen-spring-texas-story,0,2927773.story

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100505-search-resumes-for-missing-teen-girl

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6989928.html



That third article has a comment that I hope gets looked into, about a girl getting assaulted while trying to pick up a paycheck from the same employer...

I hope the fact that the media is being dismissive of the runaway designation starts to humiliate LE into changing that and starting a real investigation of their own...it's awfully hard for a family and volunteers to do something like this without LE's full support.

SkewedView
05-06-2010, 12:07 PM
I WAS a "runaway" at the age of 15 and I can tell you that one of the last things I did before I ran away was get all my money together and draw my savings out of the bank. Ali (Alexandria) left her paycheck at work and hasn't been back to get it. Even more telling than that, she left her cellphone charger at home -- and this from a girl who texted something like 4,000 messages per month...

There is also the matter of the "Alice in Wonderland" themed 16th birthday party for one of her best friends that Ali helped organize and didn't show up for along with the fact that she missed the tournament game that her softball team had been gearing up for.

I agree completely with you Skewed. The initial report was mis-handled which probably gave whoever took Ali plenty of time to dally along the way. Nothing here says "runaway" but it virtually screams "ABDUCTION!" in capital letters...

Yeah, I ran when I was that age too, it was pretty obvious I was a runner, as I took all my books, cds and stereo with me - shows what the priorities of a typical teen are doesn't it!

I hate when LE drops the ball and won't admit it until a body turns up or (unfortunately rarely) the victim escapes from being held or whatever. :furious:


ETA: It looks like she has a nose ring in one of the pics - I wonder if that was what made the responding officer make that horrid call...it wouldn't be unusual if that were the case unfortunately. :banghead:

cluciano63
05-07-2010, 01:09 AM
These young girls need to stay on the front page of this thread...
I do not believe either one ran away-
it sounds as though Alexandria had plenty going on in her live...not enough out there about Chasity to know. My nieces live and go to school in Spring and Spring is all about its schools and teens...I can't believe these disappearances are not major news. My niece, who is 17, has not heard of either one.

cluciano63
05-10-2010, 10:04 PM
http://www.39online.com/news/local/kiah-missing-spring-teen-story,0,1214598.story

alexandria still missing...

SkewedView
05-11-2010, 03:06 PM
http://www.39online.com/news/local/kiah-missing-spring-teen-story,0,1214598.story

alexandria still missing...


From the above article:

Investigators are waiting to hear from eye witnesses who might have clues to suggest foul play.


Wow, now doesn't that just just inspire confidence.:banghead:

momof3and1
05-12-2010, 12:36 AM
Another girl has gone missing in the Houston area.

Missing: 15 yo Allyssa Suarez, Cypress, Texas. Please distribute flyers: http://www.LRCF.net/missing PDF: http://bit.ly/dnE25G

KT Can
05-12-2010, 01:11 AM
This is the facebook page that Ali's family and friends have set up for her:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120051401346429&ref=ts

FYI...I have lived in Spring all of my life....I graduated from Spring High School, I have a daughter who graduated from there in 2008 and a son who currently attends. This is frightening, this poor girl did NOT run away. I live less than than three miles from where you was last seen. Her father is very active on facebook...I think I am going to send him a message and invite him here to Websleuths...they really could use our help in keeping her name in the media since law enforcement is currently treating this as a runaway case. I know we can help them...

And to hear two other girls are missing is very concerning...these families need our help.

KT Can
05-12-2010, 01:39 AM
Okay, I sent a facebook message to Ali's dad inviting him to come here. I think they could really really really use our help keeping her, and the other missing girl's, names out in the media.

We need to keep this thread bumped up to the top...three girls of similar age missing from suburban Houston neighborhoods within the past 25 days...girls within does anyone think a change to the thread title might garner these girls some more attention on here?

KT Can
05-12-2010, 01:55 AM
Missing Person's flyer for Ali Lowitzer

You can print a flyer from the website for the Laura Recovery center. If you live in the Houston area, please print it and post in your office and anywhere else you frequent. Please help Ali's family get the word and her picture out everywhere. Thanks!

http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1551/index.html

PS...not disregarding the other missing girls, I'm going to get caught up on their cases now :)

KT Can
05-12-2010, 11:30 AM
Bump....

SkewedView
05-12-2010, 05:07 PM
Another girl has gone missing in the Houston area.

Missing: 15 yo Allyssa Suarez, Cypress, Texas. Please distribute flyers: http://www.LRCF.net/missing PDF: http://bit.ly/dnE25G

I tried to find some more info on her, but pretty much all I found is the flyer, which has no info on the circumstances of her disappearance. I'm bringing this back up in case someone with mad research skills can do better.

jkaustin02
05-12-2010, 10:31 PM
April 16th - Friday, 3:00pm - Chasity Armstrong disappears
2nd name ? Chrisy Konvica Armstrong?? Are these two the same person?

April 26th - Monday, 3:00pm, Alexandria Lowitzer disappears

Both girls disappear at 3:00pm? Were they in school? A couple of the Links don't work for me not sure of specifics circumstances. TIA
Chasity Armstrong is the daughter, Christy Armstrong is the Mom.

momof3and1
05-13-2010, 01:14 AM
There is also a fb page called, "bring home ali lowitzter" It has updates on searches and stuff like that.
I researched more last night and there are several similar cases. (Jordan Hope Johnson was another name that popped up...went missing 3 days before Ali). Ali's case has been listed as a runaway(as have some of the others), but to me, Ali is clearly not a runaway. She was dropped off 3 houses away from her home, and she did not take her cell phone charger, makeup, clothes, or money. She was on her way to pick up her paycheck...never picked it up. There has been no activity on her cell phone(text messages or calls) since she talked to her mom before getting on the school bus. How many of these cases listed as "runaway" are correct? It brings many questions to my mind!

momof3and1
05-13-2010, 01:19 AM
PS to last comment...I couldn't find any more info on Allysa either, but Ali's information was not made public right away either. The first I heard of it was 9 days after she went missing. Hoping more information will become available soon.
I contacted John Lowitzer and asked if the Laura Recovery Center was considering a link in the cases, and he said that he was going to ask.

SkewedView
05-13-2010, 10:17 AM
Here's an article I found on Jordan Hope Johnson:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100426/NEWS/100426009/Former-Valley-High-School-student-missing-in-Texas

From the article:

Jordan Hope Johnson, 17, a junior at Oakridge High School in Conroe, disappeared last Friday.

Her mother, Stacie Johnson of West Des Moines, said her daughter has made threats against herself and she is worried about her safety.

Jordan has been staying with grandparents in Conroe. Her mother said she found a message on her Facebook page indicating someone from the Des Moines area might be traveling to Texas to see her. Jordan disappeared shortly after the item was posted to the website.

KT Can
05-13-2010, 02:13 PM
Hi all...I just talked to Ali's dad, John...there is a new article in the Houston Chronicle that has security camera images from the school bus showing what Ali was last seen wearing.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7003397.html

momof3and1
05-13-2010, 03:03 PM
There are search parties going out on Saturday and Sunday

from post on fb
From John Lowitzer It's confirmed. Laura Recovery Center will set up at the same church. North Woods Baptist Church. 5803 Treaschwig, Spring, TX 77373. Corner of Treaschwig and Cypresswood behind the Subway. Searches begin at 9:00am Saturday. Jeans, comfortable boots (hiking) or walking shoes and hats are recommended. Come dressed for th...e weather. Those individuals not able to stomp around in the brush and woods can help with fliers. Hope to see you there."

momof3and1
05-13-2010, 03:07 PM
Just heard from Allysa Suarez's dad. She has been found! Praise the Lord.

AnnieOakley
05-15-2010, 10:02 PM
Bump for the girls...

flowerlady
05-16-2010, 12:14 PM
Thank-you all for posting new links on Ali's case and for keeping this thread bumped up to keep it before the eyes and in the minds of everyone...

L.E. reclassifies cases all the time... The question burning a hole in my mind is:

WHY HAS THE HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPT. NOT RECLASSIFIED ALI'S CASE?

Unfortunately, I believe the fact that they seem to be having such a difficult time doing that is because of a seemingly pervasive -- yet verbally/intellectually unacknowledged -- attitude/opinion Society has that anyone in a work environment who admits and owns up to their mistakes is somehow inferior to those who don't when the fact is that just the opposite is true. Human beings make mistakes. It's part of being "human". And L.E. is as human as anyone else (whether they want to admit it or not).

GROW UP, HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFFS, ADMIT YOU MADE A HUGE MISTAKE IN THE HANDLING OF ALI'S CASE AND START TAKING IMMEDIATE STEPS TO RECTIFY IT!

(Sorry for "yelling"... Things like this just tick me off.)

cluciano63
05-16-2010, 12:43 PM
I am really shocked that LE won't investigate properly and look at all of the lost time, if they should change their tactics and decide to do so. A high school girl going missing in a suburban area without any warning signs or indications of runaway risk is about as scary as it gets, especially when you factor in no cell usage and not picking up paycheck or taking anything with her. My sister lives very near here and is an admin in the school system and she has heard of this case, but only barely, just as a bit of smalltalk. She has a daughter a year older and was shocked to hear that Alexandria is still missing. She had assumed it was an overnight at most. As far as Chasity, I have not been able to find much at all about the circumstances of her disappearance.

flowerlady
05-17-2010, 12:34 AM
As you can probably tell, I, also, am shocked, Clu. I should think it would be in the best interest of the Harris County Sheriff to AT LEAST change the designation of this case. Leaving it like it is not only compounds their initial error in the case but, every hour that passes in which they don't try to rectify their mistake will cause the public (who pays their salaries) to wonder why they are continuing to insist on a course of action that is patently illogical.

Finally, it comes down to only two possibilities:

1) They are "complicit" somehow.
OR
2) They are incompetent.

Either way the next question is:

"How many OTHER young people's disappearances has the Harris County Sheriff's Dept. "mis-classified" and how many of the abduction victims who have been found deceased in the Harris County area could have been saved had they not been so?"

claudicici
05-19-2010, 11:43 PM
I live right where Ali came up missing,I have a daughter that reminds me so much of her.I think about this case every day.I wonder if there is anything we can do at Websleuths to get the police to investigate this case?...it seems like Ali's parents are doing all the investigating themselves,I'm glad Laura recovery center is helping...there are so many sex offenders in the neighborhood and no one is being questioned...also they should definetely take a closer look at the burger barn...I'm just worried sick...

momof3and1
05-20-2010, 01:19 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/Homicide-detectives-now-involved-in-search-for-missing-teen-94350814.html

http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/Missing_Spring_girl.html#21710454

Some recent articles and pictures. Search resumes on Saturday and Sunday. Information on "bring home ali lowitzer" facebook page.

cluciano63
05-20-2010, 02:21 PM
It sickens me that is has taken this long for the police to take this case seriously as a probably crime. I have not read anything at all that would lead one to think Ali ran away and the way she disappeared makes no sense. I just hope LE did not leave it too late, it will be very difficult to get people to remember exactly where they were and what they saw almost a month ago on a specific afternoon...it is hard enough when memories are fresh. I hope they already rounded up all video in the area where she got off the bus before it was recorded over, but somehow I doubt it.

SkewedView
05-20-2010, 05:18 PM
It sickens me that is has taken this long for the police to take this case seriously as a probably crime. I have not read anything at all that would lead one to think Ali ran away and the way she disappeared makes no sense. I just hope LE did not leave it too late, it will be very difficult to get people to remember exactly where they were and what they saw almost a month ago on a specific afternoon...it is hard enough when memories are fresh. I hope they already rounded up all video in the area where she got off the bus before it was recorded over, but somehow I doubt it.

I think a big part of the problem is that this was being handled not by missing persons, but by this 'runaway dept.' - obviously if you are being handled by a dept named that, they aren't going to do much real investigating imo. Actually, just the fact that they have that dept really makes me :furious: and makes me wonder how many more suspicious disappearances there have been thrown into the black hole of that dept.

At any rate, since they've sent in the big boys of homicide, it would seem that someone upstairs noticed the rather critical tone of the media coverage and didn't appreciate what this might do for their agency's rep.

All JMO etc

trigger
05-20-2010, 06:41 PM
On HLN....

Last moments captured on school bus surveillance video texting. Seems happy.
LE treating this as a runaway case.
Parents say she would never leave without telling them.
Father says another attempted kidnapping one month before. Was in same neighborhood. Guy got out of his car grabbed the girl around her neck but the girl bit him.
Mom talked to her at 230pm.
3 boys got off the bus with her at the same time. Parents spoke with them and said she was heading off to work to get her paycheck.She never walks to work but she had no ride that day.
She had her cell with her.

LLLindsayy
05-20-2010, 06:49 PM
Just heard about this case from seeing Alexandria's parents on Make Galanos (HLN). They are so devastated. Hoping for a good outcome with this one.

momof3and1
05-20-2010, 09:04 PM
excuse my ignorance, but what is a "bump"?

cluciano63
05-20-2010, 09:10 PM
to move the topic back up...get closer to front page or top of page...

cluciano63
05-20-2010, 09:12 PM
I just have a bad feeling it is too late now for LE to be taking this case seriously...it is far too long for this girl to have been missing...I hope if this is true, they can at least reconstruct some events to find an offender...but they have lost so much time...

trigger
05-20-2010, 09:12 PM
excuse my ignorance, but what is a "bump"?

It moves this post up to the front...By typing bump it brings it to the attention of anyone browsing the active discussions. Hope that helps.

trigger
05-20-2010, 09:14 PM
I just have a bad feeling it is too late now for LE to be taking this case seriously...it is far too long for this girl to have been missing...I hope if this is true, they can at least reconstruct some events to find an offender...but they have lost so much time...

I'll email JVM, NG ...See what happens....

It was already on HLN...Maybe it will help.

theglasscorner
05-21-2010, 04:53 PM
I think it is important to point out that there is some issue with the time that Chasity Armstrong was last seen. I have seen 3pm but also 6:40am. Although it changes things a liitle, in regards to the two disappearanes being connected, I think maybe she also was going to work/school, so that is a connection. But there is not as much media attention/information on Chasity, so I don't really know much.

As for the runaway thing with LE and Ali... even if she did runaway, if she didn't take her money (I know she didn't get her last paycheck, but it is only assumption to say that the media would know iftraceable money like in a bank account was withdrawn.) then she likely had someone help her. She is still in danger because of this or if luck is on her side, it was a close friend and not a third party stranger... and there is information to be collected that LE is not collecting.

GlassC

flowerlady
05-21-2010, 06:25 PM
Thanks to everyone keeping this thread on the first page of this forum...

I understand what you are saying, GlassC, but, if you go to the "Bring Home Alexandria Lowitzer" FaceBook page, you'll find several of Ali's acquaintances in school coming into that page expressing shock that it was Ali who is missing. Some of them even had heard about a girl who was missing from their town but had no idea -- until they put a photo of Ali together with the name and location -- it was her. In all of those cases, the replies have the tone of being stunned. Not one person expresses any kind of suspicion that Ali might or even COULD "run away". Ali evidently had no shortage of friends and acquaintances and the chances of ALL of them "keeping quiet" about it if she had help from her "circle" are slim, IMHO, and NONE.

I keep getting this nagging feeling that Ali's (and likely some of the other missing girls in that area) disappearance(s) is/are somehow associated with human trafficking and has/have a "Mexico connection". I can't seem to shake the feeling off. My mind keeps going back to it -- over and over again...

Especially after reading articles like the one the excerpt below was taken from:

"Trafficking in Mexico

The State Department classifies Mexico as a source, transit, and a destination nation for human trafficking. The State Department also has labeled Mexico a “Tier 2” country, meaning that it has yet to fully implement effective anti-trafficking measures. While many Mexican states have adopted measures to criminalize human trafficking, the report found that “no convictions or stringent punishments against trafficking offenders were reported last year.” The government’s failure to bring the perpetrators of these crimes to justice further enables this damaging industry to effectively function. The trafficking industry is also contingent on corruption at the local level and, as many officials routinely receive generous bribes from traffickers, few regional trafficking measures are strictly enforced."

BRING ALEXANDRIA HOME!

Flo

flowerlady
05-21-2010, 06:47 PM
A new media link:

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/Local_News/SEARCH_FOR_TEXAS_TEEN_ALEXANDRIA_LOWITZER_CONTINUE S_THIS_WEEKEND_VOLUNTEERS_NEEDED/30293

claudicici
05-22-2010, 06:24 AM
...I have that same feeling flowerlady,...I can't believe her dad had to find the video of her leaving the school bus himself ,I'm sure someone has seen her walking down the street if only there would have been more exposure of this case from the beginning...
...I havn't seen anything reported if Ali has a boyfriend ?
....there are so many registered sex offenders in this neighborhood,it's scary...
I did not believe for a second that Ali is a runaway....

Jovi Girl
05-22-2010, 01:10 PM
I live about 20 or so miles from where Ali lives or is missing from. This past week was the FIRST I heard about her, because of a flyer on a window at a local starbucks. We are in a different county, but it is still pretty close. I try to keep up with the news and happenings in the area. WHY was this the first time i saw a flyer ?? I am out and about all the time in my area. I am going to post about her on my local forum and anywhere else I can think of. I also live not too far from the Oakridge area. i pray for the families of these girls and for the girls .
I did notice something today about the girl from Oakridge. Apparently charges are not going to be filed against whoever she is with ?? I didn't read the entire article. I am guessing they know where she is and she is OK. Lets now find Ali !!!:furious:

momof3and1
05-22-2010, 10:45 PM
http://www.cd4.hctx.net/Display2.php?Selection=46

Another girl gone missing within a few days and around 5 miles or so from the area.
Also, I spoke with Jordan Johnson's mom via fb and asked her to join.

SkewedView
05-23-2010, 08:46 AM
http://www.cd4.hctx.net/Display2.php?Selection=46

Another girl gone missing within a few days and around 5 miles or so from the area.


Snipped by me

And she's another one that I can't find anything on :banghead:

BeanE
05-23-2010, 08:50 AM
Latest news and videos mentioning Alexandria Lowitzer

http://interceder.net/news.aspx?s=Alexandria-Lowitzer

Lola
05-23-2010, 08:56 AM
On HLN....

She had her cell with her.

Any word on said cell phone?

claudicici
05-23-2010, 10:05 AM
http://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/?p=5754

oh god,I hope that's not one of the girls,well,whoever it is,how horrible...
they already have a guy in custody.

cluciano63
05-23-2010, 10:23 PM
Spring is about 15 miles from Conroe, but that is considered very close in Texas...I hope it is not Alexandria...

I am so hoping she is somehow alive, but growing more doubtful by the day. Still, this body, whoever she was, belongs to a family someplace.

claudicici
05-24-2010, 09:36 AM
It's even closer to where Jordan was from.I hope it's not her either.
But like you said it's someone that should not have died like that...

jjmom
05-24-2010, 12:07 PM
Any more information on the body they found in Conroe ? This is Jordan's Mom and I am in Iowa and what information I get from Houston is limited. Is there a good online source for Houston? Thanks!

txgirl87
05-24-2010, 02:59 PM
I got these names off of the Laura Recovery website. These are all in the Houston area and all happened within weeks of each other. The only two that I can find information/news stories about are Ali and Jordan. It doesn't say on the Laura Recovery website what the circumstances are with the others. I think this is very alarming that so many young girls are going missing around the same time. These girls are all around the same age also.



- Alexandria (Ali) Lowitzer: missing from Spring, Texas since April 26, 2010
- Chasity Armstrong- missing from Katy, Texas since April 16, 2010
- Jordan Johnson- missing from Spring, Texas since April 23, 2010
- Vanessa Cisneros- missing from Alvin, Texas since May 16, 2010
- Cynthia Tucker- missing from Houston, Texas since April 12, 2010

Jordans Mom: I have checked local news websites for information but so far I've found nothing new. Here are some links that you can look at that have Houston/Montgomery County news updates:

-http://www.hcnonline.com/ (this website has links to many of the communities newspapers, the conroe courier is montgomery county)
-http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/05/24/conroe_courier/news/body052310.txt (this is the latest story I found)
-http://www.chron.com/ (Houston Chronicle)
-http://www.click2houston.com/index.html (channel 2 news)
-http://www.khou.com/ (channel 11 news)
-http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/index (channel 13 news)
-http://myfoxhouston.com (channel 26 news)
-http://www.39online.com/ (channel 39 news)
-http://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/?p=3531
-http://montgomerytx.countymonitor.com/

fhc
05-24-2010, 03:06 PM
Welcome TXgirl87, there is also info here at WS by their individual names :)

Kimster
05-24-2010, 08:05 PM
This case is being covered by Nancy Grace tonight.

Kimster
05-24-2010, 08:56 PM
Ally's parents say police aren't doing everything they can do to find her. They are treating her as a runaway, tho there is no activity on her cell phone. She is on the softball team, in the choir, etc. Her purse with $30 was left at home on the floor. (Nancy Grace)

She has braces with a pink banding.

Kimster
05-24-2010, 08:57 PM
I think this smells like foul play!

claudicici
05-24-2010, 09:11 PM
...to Jordan's mom...I'm so sorry I can't find anything else about the body.
I can't believe your not being notified about these things.

They opened up an adult video store next to the Burger Barn today...not that I have anything against adult videos but I've just seen strange things going on around the Burger Barn which really makes me afraid there's trafficking involved with Ali's disappearance.
There was an attempted kidnapping in our neighborhood before Ali disappeared.
Why aren't there warnings issued to the community?
Is there a description of the guy from the previous attempted kidnapping?
Why is everyone left in the dark INCLUDING the parents of the missing teens?

KR2tonenow
05-24-2010, 10:50 PM
5 girls in 2 months is unbelievable! I am glad Nancy is covering Ali now! Have LE checked the schools, gangs in the area?

KR2tonenow
05-24-2010, 11:01 PM
...to Jordan's mom...I'm so sorry I can't find anything else about the body.
I can't believe your not being notified about these things.

They opened up an adult video store next to the Burger Barn today...not that I have anything against adult videos but I've just seen strange things going on around the Burger Barn which really makes me afraid there's trafficking involved with Ali's disappearance.
There was an attempted kidnapping in our neighborhood before Ali disappeared.
Why aren't there warnings issued to the community?
Is there a description of the guy from the previous attempted kidnapping?
Why is everyone left in the dark INCLUDING the parents of the missing teens?

Regarding the bold...WTH! Well that sure is a great way to attract some pervs...

Also, once the female body is identified the community as a whole must be outraged. There are too many red flags here. I would sit on the steps of LE and demand answers!:furious:

fhc
05-24-2010, 11:07 PM
Any more information on the body they found in Conroe ? This is Jordan's Mom and I am in Iowa and what information I get from Houston is limited. Is there a good online source for Houston? Thanks!


Welcome, there is a thread here dedicated exclusively to your beautiful daughter, Jordan Hope. This thread is for information and support to family and friends only, not speculations.

TX TX - Jordan Hope Johnson - 17 years old - Conroe - 2010 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Please don't worry about the body found, it is highly unlikely that she would have had any interactions with Robert Ellis Hinton ll. Honestly, it has been reported that the information came from an inmate tipster and the location is very remote. I did start a thread about the unidentified person found. It's in the unidentified forum.

TX East Montgomery County, Female found burned in plastic trash can - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

KT Can
05-25-2010, 01:36 AM
Bumping to keep at the front....

claudicici
05-25-2010, 02:51 AM
They are opening an x rated video store right next to the Burger Barn


There are 2 Day cares in walking distance of the video store...I mean come on this is a residental neighborhood not a red light district.There's a church in the same strip center as well.Really odd....
I was trying to see if there's something like a pattern of the girsl missing ,if it could be someone traveling through the area but I really don't think any are connected at all.
Cynthia was the first one and she is from Greenspoint which is also on the North Side of Houston but still about 20 miles south of Spring.
Then Chasity from Katy which is way South West of were we are.It takes me almost 2 hrs to drive there.
Jordan from Conroe is about 20miles north of Spring.
The latest Vanessa is from Alvin with is way down south.

Truthful Lies
05-25-2010, 05:21 AM
This is quite alarming....glad NG covered.

jnTexas
05-25-2010, 10:10 AM
http://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/?p=5754

oh god,I hope that's not one of the girls,well,whoever it is,how horrible...
they already have a guy in custody.

the body they found is not in Conroe it is in New Caney off Hwy59. Which is about 7 miles from me. this kind of stuff does not normally happen in this area.
new Caney is about 15-20 miles from conroe, and 20 -30 miles from Spring.

there is also another young girl missing from Cleveland, Tx. 15 miles from new caney. Felechia Goodman age 16 missing since Sunday May 16, 2010. There is nothing in the news or internet about her. just flyers in town.

jnTexas
05-25-2010, 10:13 AM
http://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/?p=5754

oh god,I hope that's not one of the girls,well,whoever it is,how horrible...
they already have a guy in custody.

the body they found is not in Conroe it is in New Caney off Hwy59. Which is about 7 miles from me. this kind of stuff does not normally happen in this area.
new Caney is about 15-20 miles from conroe, and 20 -30 miles from Spring.

there is also another young girl missing from Cleveland, Tx. 15 miles from new caney. Felechia Goodman age 16 missing since Sunday May 16, 2010. There is nothing in the news or internet about her. just flyers in town.

here's a map:
A: where the body was found
B: Where Ali is missing from
C: where jordan is missing from
D: Where Felechia is missing from
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=New+Caney,+TX&daddr=Spring,+TX+to:Oak+Ridge+North,+TX+to:Clevela nd,+TX&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=30.155278,-95.211389&sspn=0.330108,0.725784&g=New+Caney,+TX&ie=UTF8&z=10

jnTexas
05-25-2010, 10:19 AM
new flier

http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1551/1551.html

jnTexas
05-25-2010, 10:22 AM
http://www.39online.com/news/local/kiah-missingteens-story,0,4991377.story

Lowitzer is not giving up hope that his daughter Alexandria is waiting to be found. Volunteers with the Laura Recovery center have searched tirelessly for weeks. They are canvasing the Spring area where Ali was last seen but to this day nothing has been found. John and his wife are not the only ones searching for their loved one.

Stacie Johnson has been looking for her daughter in both Iowa and Texas. Seventeen year old Jordan Johnson moved to Spring to live with her grandparents. The Oak Ridge High School junior was last seen on April 23rd just three days before Ali disappeared.

Johnson believes her daughter may have tried to return home to be with her ex-boyfriend.

"My concern is if there was some kind of escape plan to leave Texas for Iowa that something has gone wrong," said Stacie Johnson.

Authorities both in Iowa and Spring haven't found any clues leading to Johnson either.

"It is such a helpless feeling to search for your daughter and not have any idea where they might be," said Johnson.

John Lowitzer also admits he feels helpless.

"There is that lingering fear that something has gone wrong," said Lowitzer.

claudicici
05-25-2010, 10:31 AM
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/134/l_ede0f56312bc46b9834b94abf423eb05.jpg

Here is Felechia's flyer,I had no idea !

jjmom
05-25-2010, 11:45 AM
Jordan went missing from Oak Ridge High School in Conroe, but lived in Spring with her Grandparents. Sorry I missed the Nancy Grace piece.

fhc
05-25-2010, 01:40 PM
Jordan went missing from Oak Ridge High School in Conroe, but lived in Spring with her Grandparents. Sorry I missed the Nancy Grace piece.

JJmom, there is a dedicated thread here for your daughter. It is updated as we find information. Please feel free to post there, too.

TX TX - Jordan Hope Johnson - 17 years old - Conroe - 2010 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

cluciano63
05-25-2010, 07:07 PM
Do we know if Chasity Armstrong was located? I thought I read that she was eventually found at her grandmother's home, but she is still listed as missing on the naitonal sites. Not much information on her out there at all.

pufnstuf
05-25-2010, 08:58 PM
Made a map of these missing children from 2010, and included the locations on the man (Robert Ellis Hinton II) who was arrested after a charred body was found in a garbage can near his house.

Sad to say, I wasn't able to pinpoint the locations on the black girls, because the media has done NOTHING on them. However, I did include their names under the central question-mark icon in Houston.

From what I am reading, the only TRUE abduction appears to be Ali Lowitzer. The others left with males or gave serious indications of running away, such as packing to leave.

Ali left everything at home. She has nothing with her. She did not pick up her paycheck, which is where she was headed when she got off the school bus. I am terrified that the charred body that LE found may be her. She lives close to the thoroughfare between Spring and New Caney. Terrified for her parents.

Anyway, here's the map.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=New+Caney&gl=us&ei=mrH7S6vbOcG78gaDkIHZBQ&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA&t=h&msa=0&msid=113741092510424599794.000487696a148c5b654fc&ll=29.964453,-95.844727&spn=0.649591,1.023102&z=10

KR2tonenow
05-25-2010, 08:59 PM
Thanks to everyone keeping this thread on the first page of this forum...

I understand what you are saying, GlassC, but, if you go to the "Bring Home Alexandria Lowitzer" FaceBook page, you'll find several of Ali's acquaintances in school coming into that page expressing shock that it was Ali who is missing. Some of them even had heard about a girl who was missing from their town but had no idea -- until they put a photo of Ali together with the name and location -- it was her. In all of those cases, the replies have the tone of being stunned. Not one person expresses any kind of suspicion that Ali might or even COULD "run away". Ali evidently had no shortage of friends and acquaintances and the chances of ALL of them "keeping quiet" about it if she had help from her "circle" are slim, IMHO, and NONE.

I keep getting this nagging feeling that Ali's (and likely some of the other missing girls in that area) disappearance(s) is/are somehow associated with human trafficking and has/have a "Mexico connection". I can't seem to shake the feeling off. My mind keeps going back to it -- over and over again...

Especially after reading articles like the one the excerpt below was taken from:

"Trafficking in Mexico

The State Department classifies Mexico as a source, transit, and a destination nation for human trafficking. The State Department also has labeled Mexico a “Tier 2” country, meaning that it has yet to fully implement effective anti-trafficking measures. While many Mexican states have adopted measures to criminalize human trafficking, the report found that “no convictions or stringent punishments against trafficking offenders were reported last year.” The government’s failure to bring the perpetrators of these crimes to justice further enables this damaging industry to effectively function. The trafficking industry is also contingent on corruption at the local level and, as many officials routinely receive generous bribes from traffickers, few regional trafficking measures are strictly enforced."

BRING ALEXANDRIA HOME!

Flo

It's quite possible, however the amount of young women in proximation (and may not be related, however.) speaks of a serial nature within a close amount of time. IMO

pufnstuf
05-25-2010, 10:06 PM
Felechia is online right now on her myspace page.

I'll look for more info about her and may add her to the map.

cluciano63
05-25-2010, 10:26 PM
I have a very sick feeling about Alexandria...I think of all of these girls, she seems to be the one who truly did not run away, by any stretch of the imagination; not saying the other girls did or that they have not met up with danger since, but this girl was wrongly labeled at once by LE and ludicrously so, IMO. And now any trail is so, so cold...her poor family. My sister, who lives 5 miles from Spring and has a daughter a year older, only heard about this a week ago, except thru me...

RubyRed
05-25-2010, 10:58 PM
Ali's parents on NG

saw video proof she was on bus

momof3and1
05-25-2010, 11:04 PM
Nancy Grace is covering Ali's story again tonight....more info.

To Jordan's Mom...I pray that your daughter is found soon as well. My heart just hurts for the parents that go to bed not knowing where their children are.

trigger
05-25-2010, 11:11 PM
Last year there was a girl that was kidnapped from south Montgomery County which is pretty close to where Ali was missing..

This is a safety alert from Conroe ISD 10/21/09

CISD has received a report of a student abduction which occurred after a female Conroe High School student departed the bus and was walking home today. The girl’s parent reported that her daughter had been abducted and sexually assaulted. The student is with her family and the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Department is investigating. CISD reminds all of our families to be aware of your surroundings and report any suspicious behavior to local law enforcement. Additional information will be shared as it becomes available.

More at link
http://montgomerytx.countymonitor.com/2009/10/21/cisd-press-release-reported-abduction-sexual-assault/

KR2tonenow
05-25-2010, 11:11 PM
Missing female teenagers from March - May 2010: TEXAS

- Alexandria (Ali) Lowitzer: missing from Spring, Texas since April 26, 2010
- Chasity Armstrong- missing from Katy, Texas since April 16, 2010
- Jordan Johnson- missing from Spring, Texas since April 23, 2010
- Vanessa Cisneros- missing from Alvin, Texas since May 16, 2010
- Cynthia Tucker- missing from Houston, Texas since April 12, 2010

Please add:
-Sonia Castanon - missing Blackpool, Texas March 04, 2010 last seen boarding a school bus within five miles of Spring, TX
-Felechia Goodman - Cleveland area, Texas last seen May 16, 2010

All these young women should still be in high school. Vanessa and Felechia are missing on the same day.

KR2tonenow
05-25-2010, 11:19 PM
Ali's parents on NG

saw video proof she was on bus

-last seen on a bus Sonia Castanon.

I think someone is stalking outside of the high school's. Jordan was last seen at the high school. LE check with bus drivers and videos outside of pertaining campuses, PLEASE!!

cluciano63
05-25-2010, 11:23 PM
I would think an investigative reporter in Houston would be interested in doing a piece onall of these missing girls...it should be a multi-page cover story on a Sunday when everyone reads the paper...if they even have investigative reporters anymore...

RubyRed
05-25-2010, 11:25 PM
-last seen on a bus Sonia Castanon.

I think someone is stalking outside of the high school's. Jordan was last seen at the high school. LE check with bus drivers and videos outside of pertaining campuses, PLEASE!!

I have been reading to catch up, but you very well could be right.

KR2tonenow
05-25-2010, 11:26 PM
Last year there was a girl that was kidnapped from south Montgomery County which is pretty close to where Ali was missing..

This is a safety alert from Conroe ISD 10/21/09

CISD has received a report of a student abduction which occurred after a female Conroe High School student departed the bus and was walking home today. The girl’s parent reported that her daughter had been abducted and sexually assaulted. The student is with her family and the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Department is investigating. CISD reminds all of our families to be aware of your surroundings and report any suspicious behavior to local law enforcement. Additional information will be shared as it becomes available.

More at link
http://montgomerytx.countymonitor.com/2009/10/21/cisd-press-release-reported-abduction-sexual-assault/

I wonder if she was able to ID the POS? I am happy to here she is okay and with her family though. Has the POS been apprehended and if not can the young woman draw a sketch? Lists of Sexual predators are on the data base in Houston.

KR2tonenow
05-25-2010, 11:29 PM
I would think an investigative reporter in Houston would be interested in doing a piece onall of these missing girls...it should be a multi-page cover story on a Sunday when everyone reads the paper...if they even have investigative reporters anymore...

This definitely needs to be followed through. It wouldn't be too hard to do it, but I live in Cali...I just hope that whoever reads these posts gets ideas and a/investigates b/reports...we can only pray.

cluciano63
05-25-2010, 11:33 PM
Well, I did an e-mail to the editor of special project assignments,(Houston Chronicle) with the list of the girls names and dates and towns...asking them to assign someone to look into possible links to the disappearances. I have a 17-yr old niece living within 5 miles of Spring so this is very scary to me personally.

KR2tonenow
05-25-2010, 11:37 PM
Well, I did an e-mail to the editor of special project assignments,(Houston Chronicle) with the list of the girls names and dates and towns...asking them to assign someone to look into possible links to the disappearances. I have a 17-yr old niece living within 5 miles of Spring so this is very scary to me personally.

Excellent, I am glad you did!!! <shakes your hand> :angel:
I think with public awareness and safety, our young women should be able to go about their lives...keep us posted, C63.

trigger
05-25-2010, 11:45 PM
I wonder if she was able to ID the POS? I am happy to here she is okay and with her family though. Has the POS been apprehended and if not can the young woman draw a sketch? Lists of Sexual predators are on the data base in Houston.

Nope no sketch...I cannot find nothing more on it.

Seems like theres been someone kidnapping and murdering girls for some time now. I found this old article ...Year was 1994

Another girl was the victim of an attempted abduction Tuesday in an area where two girls were murdered and a third was assaulted, authorities said. A 13-year-old girl told police a white man in his 40s jumped out of a car and grabbed her by the neck as she stood at a school bus stop, a police spokesman said. She said she broke free and ran to a nearby home. The bus stop is about a mile from where a man sexually assaulted and tried to kidnap an 11-year-old girl Nov. 8, police said. Gary Stufflebean, 37, an auditor from Spring, Texas, is awaiting trial in that case.

trigger
05-26-2010, 12:01 AM
Found more articles of kidnappings. The latest occurred Jan 2010, there is a sketch. Good grief...Keep scrolling down for more articles...

http://montgomerytx.countymonitor.com/tag/kidnapping/

pufnstuf
05-26-2010, 01:52 AM
...if they even have investigative reporters anymore...

respectfully snipped..

I think investigative reporters are a dying breed. Pick up any newspaper and read articles in the local or state section. Very poor writing. Using quotations as fact instead of following up to verify what sources say. We see this in every case, don't we?

claudicici
05-26-2010, 03:20 AM
...sadly I don't think there are any investigative reporters out there anymore either...
I really don't think any of these cases are related.Houston is soooo sprad out and there are a lot of sickos...
I did not even know about the missing black girls...
I agree ALi's case is the most troublesome....there was an attempted abduction in our neighborhood 2 months before she went missing,but they won't release the description of the guy or the vehicle...
...also a girl was assaulted by the former owner of the Burger Barn when she picked up her pay check,he sold it to his friend after that happened...
...when Ali walked down Treaschwig someone must have seen her ,it's a busy road especially on a friday afternoon....

momof3and1
05-26-2010, 08:53 AM
To Jordan's mom: You can youtube the Nancy Grace episode. I'll try to find it and post it.

momof3and1
05-26-2010, 09:00 AM
I have to tell you ladies/gentlemen....this is the most resourceful page that I have been to yet. So many good investigators and polite people. <pats you all on the back!>

momof3and1
05-26-2010, 09:03 AM
Nancy Grace....
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XeWxNYu2YQ
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBeL_EZlMbY&feature=related

nurselady
05-26-2010, 04:54 PM
Bump..back to page 1..

KT Can
05-26-2010, 08:10 PM
Bump...

cluciano63
05-27-2010, 01:30 PM
Here's hoping police in these towns are at least speaking to one another about these cases...I am not convinced any are related but there are some similarties in some of them and I feel certain Alexandria is not a runaway...

cj1132
05-27-2010, 11:58 PM
I cannot imagine what it would feel like to have you child labeled a "runaway" when you know it's not true. I realize that not all parents have a close relationship with their child but these parents know their daughter. The frustration must be overwhelming.

pufnstuf
05-28-2010, 02:34 AM
Still no news on the Robert Ellis Hinton case. I check every day to see if they'll exclude Ali.

DaneBramage
05-28-2010, 03:13 PM
Was The Lowitzer girl classified as a runaway by LE? God I hope not.

cluciano63
05-28-2010, 04:12 PM
She was for quite a while at first...

trigger
05-28-2010, 04:35 PM
Still no news on the Robert Ellis Hinton case. I check every day to see if they'll exclude Ali.

TIA...who is Robert E Hinton?

Check here everyday. Her parents must be beside themselves. Prayers she is found.

Are they searching for her this weekend?

cluciano63
05-28-2010, 05:43 PM
He is the guy who was arrested for abuse of a corpse last week; body has not been identified as yet as far as I know. I have a feeling it will turn out to be more domestic-oriented or someone he knew...just my opinion.

momof3and1
05-28-2010, 08:18 PM
I read one article that said that the body that was found burned was a woman's body...don't know if that rules out teenager.

Added to that...another girl has gone missing this week. Here's the link

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/05/28/atascocita_observer/news/2210missingemc.txt

This makes 8 girls missing.

fhc
05-28-2010, 08:34 PM
I read one article that said that the body that was found burned was a woman's body...don't know if that rules out teenager.

Added to that...another girl has gone missing this week. Here's the link

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/05/28/atascocita_observer/news/2210missingemc.txt

This makes 8 girls missing.

Have you started a thread for Kalyn Painter?

momof3and1
05-28-2010, 10:50 PM
No, I'm not sure how...new to all of this.

momof3and1
05-28-2010, 10:51 PM
How do you quote in reply? I'm new to all of this, and I don't want do it wrong.

cluciano63
05-28-2010, 11:21 PM
Use the "quote" button in the lower right corner....

To start a thread, you will see "new thread" up top of page on left, just before the first thread of the page starts...

claudicici
05-28-2010, 11:39 PM
.....

claudicici
05-29-2010, 11:35 AM
...as far as I know Ali's status is still "runaway".They have homicide detectives looking into the case now but did not upgrade her status .

momof3and1
05-29-2010, 09:05 PM
Picture of Timeline of girls missing posted:
http://www.facebook.com/11news?v=app_4949752878#!/photo.php?pid=4293330&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=120958881275924&aid=-1&id=705059012&fbid=396253039012

Group(on facebook) that it was posted on :
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120958881275924

Tam
05-29-2010, 09:06 PM
This is a time-line that I just put together real quick w/the girls missing in the area...

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu6/traciemills1/Timeline.jpg

Tam
05-29-2010, 09:09 PM
oh momof3and1, I just saw that you posted a link to the facebook page! I didn't even know anyone here knew about the page, thanks, lol!

momof3and1
05-29-2010, 09:13 PM
Use the "quote" button in the lower right corner....

To start a thread, you will see "new thread" up top of page on left, just before the first thread of the page starts...

Alright...checking to see if this works.

momof3and1
05-29-2010, 09:14 PM
Yeah I did it! Thanks

momof3and1
05-29-2010, 09:16 PM
oh momof3and1, I just saw that you posted a link to the facebook page! I didn't even know anyone here knew about the page, thanks, lol!

I just found it. I've been following all of Ali's pages, and found this fb page when I read the article http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/05/29/humble_observer/news/2210ourchildrenho.txt

I'm a fb junkie...lol

claudicici
05-29-2010, 09:31 PM
here's an article about the "Bring home Ali" fb page...

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/Local_News/FACEBOOK_COMMUNITY_FORMS_TO_SEARCH_FOR_ALI_LOWITZE R/30540

Tam
05-29-2010, 10:30 PM
I just found it. I've been following all of Ali's pages, and found this fb page when I read the article http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/05/29/humble_observer/news/2210ourchildrenho.txt

I'm a fb junkie...lol

I am a fb junkie too!

Thanks for letting me know about the additional two girls! I've updated the time line...

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu6/traciemills1/TimeLine.jpg

cj1132
05-29-2010, 11:20 PM
Looking at those photos all together and seeing the short timeline is chilling.

claudicici
05-30-2010, 01:52 AM
here are a few more Houston girls missing between February and now..

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1147077&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1141337&orgPrefix=NCMA&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1146718&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

momof3and1
05-30-2010, 03:10 AM
Just checked Laura Recovery center page...Vanessa Cisneros is no longer listed. Wonder if she's been found.

Lurkey Lou
05-30-2010, 10:17 AM
Looking at those photos all together and seeing the short timeline is chilling.

yes it is, I just saw someone from TX who is a friend of mine posted a link to that picture and timeline and it just absolutely makes me ill.

trigger
05-30-2010, 10:48 AM
here are a few more Houston girls missing between February and now..

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1147077&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1141337&orgPrefix=NCMA&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1146718&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

There is also another girl missing since January 23...Angela Jaramillo 16yo.
Foul play is suspected. She does have a thread here.

DaneBramage
05-30-2010, 12:05 PM
I just Google Mapped all towns and they are all around or in the greater Houston area. The culprits are definitely in the Houston area.

claudicici
05-30-2010, 01:11 PM
Angela is from Dallas

Sonia is from Houston.Blackpool Lane is where she was last seen.

Patience
05-30-2010, 01:52 PM
What is going on in Texas? omg How many girls have gone missing recently? This is terrible. Where are these girls?

Cynthia Tucker
Chasity Armstrong
Jordan Johnson
Ali Lowitzer
Alyssa Lynn Suarez

Tam
05-30-2010, 02:05 PM
What is going on in Texas? omg How many girls have gone missing recently? This is terrible. Where are these girls?

Cynthia Tucker
Chasity Armstrong
Jordan Johnson
Ali Lowitzer
Alyssa Lynn Suarez

What is your source of information for Alyssa Lynn Suarez? I cannot find any information on her! I would like to add her to the time line, but I need to at least somewhat verify the info first, please!

momof3and1
05-30-2010, 02:13 PM
What is going on in Texas? omg How many girls have gone missing recently? This is terrible. Where are these girls?

Cynthia Tucker
Chasity Armstrong
Jordan Johnson
Ali Lowitzer
Alyssa Lynn Suarez

Alyssa has been found. Talked to her dad through email.

momof3and1
05-30-2010, 02:14 PM
I've contacted Laura recovery center to see if I could get more information about Vanessa Cisneros....her info has been taken off of their page.

Tam
05-30-2010, 02:14 PM
Alyssa has been found. Talked to her dad through email.

Thanks momof3and1! I've been searching like crazy for info on her these last few minutes! I wanted to add her to the timeline, but wanted to verify first! I'm so glad that she is home safe!

momof3and1
05-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Thanks momof3and1! I've been searching like crazy for info on her these last few minutes! I wanted to add her to the timeline, but wanted to verify first! I'm so glad that she is home safe!

Just got an email from Bob at Laura RC, and Vanessa Cisneros has been found alive and well.

momof3and1
05-30-2010, 02:41 PM
There is also another girl missing since January 23...Angela Jaramillo 16yo.
Foul play is suspected. She does have a thread here.

On Maya Madey...she has posted things to her fb account as of May 25. Unsure is she has been found or not.

dreamweaver
05-30-2010, 02:45 PM
I am a fb junkie too!

Thanks for letting me know about the additional two girls! I've updated the time line...

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu6/traciemills1/TimeLine.jpg
Tam:
Wonderful job with this timeline. Have you sent it in the LE?

claudicici
05-30-2010, 03:04 PM
Felechia has been logging in to her myspace account,well,someone has.

It's beyond frustrating that the media is still pretty much ignoring these cases.
It's frustrating that the public has to figure out who's missing and who's found.
There should be storys about these girls all over the place.

Thank you so much momof3 for going out of your way to keep us updated and thank you Tam for the timeline

Tam
05-30-2010, 04:18 PM
Tam:
Wonderful job with this timeline. Have you sent it in the LE?

Thanks dreamweaver. No I haven't sent it to LE, honestly I wouldn't even know where to send it! But Channel 11(KHOU in Houston) news did just contact me and they said that it will be aired on the 10pm news tonight!!! I will post a link as soon as it is available!

I just recently updated it. Vanessa Cisneros(Alvin, TX) was found alive & well last night, thank God! She has now been removed from the time line.

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu6/traciemills1/TimeLine-2.jpg

Tam
05-30-2010, 04:21 PM
Felechia has been logging in to her myspace account,well,someone has.

It's beyond frustrating that the media is still pretty much ignoring these cases.
It's frustrating that the public has to figure out who's missing and who's found.
There should be storys about these girls all over the place.

Thank you so much momof3 for going out of your way to keep us updated and thank you Tam for the timeline

It will be on the news tonight, I just talked to a KHOU reporter! FINALLY! You know usually when one station picks it up, they all do! I'm hoping that happens in this case!

claudicici
05-30-2010, 04:33 PM
yes,yes,yes that's really good news!

momof3and1
05-30-2010, 06:20 PM
It will be on the news tonight, I just talked to a KHOU reporter! FINALLY! You know usually when one station picks it up, they all do! I'm hoping that happens in this case!

That is awesome!!! So they are finally connecting them?

claudicici
05-30-2010, 06:23 PM
here are links to the individual websleuths threads:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105037&highlight=chasity+armstrong

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105278&highlight=jordan+johnson

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103767&highlight=alexandria+lowitzer

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105658&highlight=kalyn+painter

claudicici
05-30-2010, 06:29 PM
There's just no info at all about Cynthia,only that she came up missing at 1AM ,that's late for a 15 year old to be anywhere...
nothing on Sonia and Felichia either.....
and nothing new about the body found burned.It's so close to Felechia,it's really scary...

Tam
05-30-2010, 06:38 PM
That is awesome!!! So they are finally connecting them?

It looks like they are! I can't wait to see...:waitasec:

flowerlady
05-30-2010, 10:25 PM
I am so grateful for all of you who have kept this thread that I posted going and for all of the work and time you are all putting into helping to find Alexandria.

All I had to do was glance at the LRC's list of missing to see that there were a disproportionate number of young girls -- all about the same age -- in a concetrated area of the Houston suburbs. Knowing that LE had obviously mis-classified Ali's case, I started to get very suspicious about the others...

I feel that, at least NOW, some other people (much more "influential" than I) are starting to ask some of the same questions that I did and I am heartened.

Ali's grandfather is a very dear "online" friend of mine for quite a few years and it would be wonderful if he was able to smile again. The only way that's going to happen is when ALEXANDRIA COMES HOME!

Thank-you, so much, ALL of you here at WebSleuths...

cluciano63
05-30-2010, 10:57 PM
I am so sad for the Lowitzer family...having to go through the pain of not knowing what is happening with their daughter, as well as the police telling them she ran way, which was ludicrous from the start. Some of these girls may have taken off voluntarily but Ali was clearly not such a case and no matter why any of the other girls are missing, they need to be located and placed in the charge of an adult, parents or otherwise. If anyone is able to watch the news piece, hope you will report back.

claudicici
05-30-2010, 11:21 PM
aaah just watched it,I was so hopeful but to me it was kind of disappointing.They pretty much reassured people that the girls are "just" runaways.
They talked to Cynthia's mom who let them know that Cynthia probably did runaway.
Is that supposed to be comforting??? A 15 year old girl is out there by herself and they're not going to search for her because she left on her own will?

They should have mentioned that Ali did not take a change of clothes and stopped using her phone when she disappeared.
They should have mentioned that Kalyn needs her medication.They should have told the public to look out for a light brown lowrider.
They should have mentioned that even though Jordan wanted to run away no one has heard from her ever since.
They should have given an update on the body found in New Caney.
They should have given a description of the vehicles involved in the attempted abductions.
They should have warned parents especially now that school is almost out for summer to NOT EVER let there teens walk around by themselves,no matter how safe they feel the neighborhood is,no matter how short the distance,no matter that it's daylight.
Stranger abductions are rare,but something is going on here and channel 11 failed to make the public aware of it.
Only positive I think was they made people aware of the "keep our kids safe" facebook.
Hope many will join.

Tam
05-30-2010, 11:33 PM
aaah just watched it,I was so hopeful but to me it was kind of disappointing.They pretty much reassured people that the girls are "just" runaways.
They talked to Cynthia's mom who let them know that Cynthia probably did runaway.
Is that supposed to be comforting??? A 15 year old girl is out there by herself and they're not going to search for her because she left on her own will?

They should have mentioned that Ali did not take a change of clothes and stopped using her phone when she disappeared.
They should have mentioned that Kalyn needs her medication.They should have told the public to look out for a light brown lowrider.
They should have mentioned that even though Jordan wanted to run away no one has heard from her ever since.
They should have given an update on the body found in New Caney.
They should have given a description of the vehicles involved in the attempted abductions.
They should have warned parents especially now that school is almost out for summer to NOT EVER let there teens walk around by themselves,no matter how safe they feel the neighborhood is,no matter how short the distance,no matter that it's daylight.
Stranger abductions are rare,but something is going on here and channel 11 failed to make the public aware of it.
Only positive I think was they made people aware of the "keep our kids safe" facebook.
Hope many will join.

I agree, I was pretty disappointed myself. I only talked to the reporter for a few minutes on the phone today and then they went out and interviewed Ira from facebook and Cynthia's mom. I wish that they would have shared more. It makes me very sad actually. I am so sad for all of the families of these missing girls, my heart breaks for you all. I only wish that I could do something more for all the families, I just don't know what to do. :(

claudicici
05-31-2010, 12:00 AM
http://www.cd4.hctx.net/Display2.php?Selection=49

Erika Gonzalez listed as missing on the Harris County Precinct 4 website.....no date ,when did she go missing?

claudicici
05-31-2010, 12:02 AM
....also this boy Massie Rondell

http://www.cd4.hctx.net/Display2.php?Selection=48

claudicici
05-31-2010, 12:05 AM
...now I'm upset again these are the "details" Harris County Website lists for Ali:

Details: Juvenile failed to return home after school.

trigger
05-31-2010, 12:06 AM
I agree, I was pretty disappointed myself. I only talked to the reporter for a few minutes on the phone today and then they went out and interviewed Ira from facebook and Cynthia's mom. I wish that they would have shared more. It makes me very sad actually. I am so sad for all of the families of these missing girls, my heart breaks for you all. I only wish that I could do something more for all the families, I just don't know what to do. :(

We should notify JVM and NG everyday so this gets out. I can see Jane saying WHERE ARE THESE YOUNG GIRLS? ARE THEY ALL TIED TOGETHER?

Im glad to see some of the girls have been found and are safe! Prayers the others are found safe to.

momof3and1
05-31-2010, 01:20 AM
aaah just watched it,I was so hopeful but to me it was kind of disappointing.They pretty much reassured people that the girls are "just" runaways.
They talked to Cynthia's mom who let them know that Cynthia probably did runaway.
Is that supposed to be comforting??? A 15 year old girl is out there by herself and they're not going to search for her because she left on her own will?

They should have mentioned that Ali did not take a change of clothes and stopped using her phone when she disappeared.
They should have mentioned that Kalyn needs her medication.They should have told the public to look out for a light brown lowrider.
They should have mentioned that even though Jordan wanted to run away no one has heard from her ever since.
They should have given an update on the body found in New Caney.
They should have given a description of the vehicles involved in the attempted abductions.
They should have warned parents especially now that school is almost out for summer to NOT EVER let there teens walk around by themselves,no matter how safe they feel the neighborhood is,no matter how short the distance,no matter that it's daylight.
Stranger abductions are rare,but something is going on here and channel 11 failed to make the public aware of it.
Only positive I think was they made people aware of the "keep our kids safe" facebook.
Hope many will join.

ONe thing that I read in an article...sorry, can't remember which one it was. I've read so many in the past few weeks...Anyway, it said that it didn't matter if these kids have run away or not. They are MISSING. Whether they were taken or whether they have runaway, they are not at home! UG!!!!

momof3and1
05-31-2010, 01:24 AM
Talked to one of Ali's friends at church this morning. She was very open to answering pretty much everything I asked her. She said that she didn't think she would run away. This girl has a good head on her shoulders, and I trust her.

On another note,
My heart breaks for these parents! I feel like they are being dismissed! I can only imagine the roller coaster of feelings that they are experiencing right now. Anger, sadness, worry, pain, sickness, anxiety, fear, ...just goes on and on.

cluciano63
05-31-2010, 01:47 AM
I know the parents feel they have to be honest when talking to LE but it just does not help anything when the parents are even saying they think their child ran away, i,e. if that is what Cindy's mother said. This was her chance to be on TV and beg for help, IMO-we all know that the word "runaway" automatically causes shutdown in the brains and ears of many, even though of course they still need to be located and reunited with a responsible adult. I know that the greater Houston area is huge; my sister lives in the Woodlands, very close to Spring, and she had only heard about Ali and that came from me, initially. She later heard about Jordon, I think, at her school where she teaches, but she wrote me back that it was a given that she had runaway, i.e. so from what she gathered, no one was really looking for her :( Unfortunately, I think this sort of thing needs to strike close to home, literally in their own homes, before more people become alarmed. And I worry about NG and JVM taking it on in a hysterical way without evidence of anything in particular, as I for one, tune them out when they do that.

momof3and1
05-31-2010, 03:29 AM
Bump for the girls

trigger
05-31-2010, 09:50 AM
OK I sent email to JVM just now. The comment box is so small. I wish I could have posted their pictures and the timeline like Tam did above. I'll also send it to NG and Mike G when I get back from grocery store.

Anyone would like to send email to JVM click on HLN heres their website
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/

momof3and1
05-31-2010, 02:10 PM
Two sites on facebook "bring home ali lowitzer" and "keep our children safe" have reported that Kalyn Painter is home. Feeling ill from not taking her meds, but is home now. Praise God. Seems like with all of the webslueths and facebook groups, things are at least moving now. 2 girls home in 2 days. Praise God.

dreamweaver
05-31-2010, 03:06 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/Seven-Missing-Girls-In-Two-Months-Worries-Kingwood-Parent-95238394.html

Unsure if this has been posted or not.
KINGWOOD, Texas – The disappearances of seven teenage girls in less than two months have prompted a concerned parent to question the system that labels them "runaways."
Ira Kettles-Lemiska started a Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120958881275924&amp;v=wall&amp;viewas=128284 6475)to increase awareness about the girls, who all went missing near her Kingwood home.
Only one, Ali Lowitzer, has drawn much media attention. Lowitzer was last seen on April 26 getting off her school bus just feet from her home near Knotty Post Drive and Low Ridge Road in Spring.

..more at link..

JustToSeeYouSmile
05-31-2010, 06:52 PM
Looking at this, there are several more when you include the Houston to Austin spur. Digging now to see what I can find.

momof3and1
05-31-2010, 08:37 PM
Looking at this, there are several more when you include the Houston to Austin spur. Digging now to see what I can find.

YOu know, through all of this searching, I have noticed a lot through Austin as well...hmmmm. Wondering if there is a pattern.

Also the other day while researching, I found a website on the I45 murders from 1971-1999. I will find the link and post it, because I wonder if there is a pattern with those as well.

JustToSeeYouSmile
06-01-2010, 02:06 PM
YOu know, through all of this searching, I have noticed a lot through Austin as well...hmmmm. Wondering if there is a pattern.

Also the other day while researching, I found a website on the I45 murders from 1971-1999. I will find the link and post it, because I wonder if there is a pattern with those as well.

I noticed that also. Been looking through quite a few. Does anyone have any substantial info on the Lawhon sisters, particularly Amanda?

momof3and1
06-01-2010, 07:19 PM
Another girl found today. Felichia Goodman.

Patty G
06-01-2010, 07:34 PM
Another girl found today. Felichia Goodman.

Do you have any further info and a link?

momof3and1
06-01-2010, 07:40 PM
I noticed that also. Been looking through quite a few. Does anyone have any substantial info on the Lawhon sisters, particularly Amanda?

Can you tell me more about the Lawhon sisters? The only one I can find is Amanda, and when I clicked on heidisearchcenter, the link has been disabled.

momof3and1
06-01-2010, 07:42 PM
Do you have any further info and a link?

here's the post from someone on the facebook page 'Keep our children safe'

I just spoke with Felichia Goodman's Mom! She was found on May 25th... she's been through some personal drama but she's safe and sound. Ms. Goodman asked me to thank all of those concerned for her daughter. She also says her prayers are with those who are still missing their daughters...

momof3and1
06-02-2010, 01:59 PM
bump it for the girls

momof3and1
06-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Two sites on facebook "bring home ali lowitzer" and "keep our children safe" have reported that Kalyn Painter is home. Feeling ill from not taking her meds, but is home now. Praise God. Seems like with all of the webslueths and facebook groups, things are at least moving now. 2 girls home in 2 days. Praise God.

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/20...honechatko.txt

Article posted on Kayln Painter. Phone Chat predator took her. She met the man through Quest Chat line, which requires people to be 18, but they do not check birthdays. Kayln had specified on her profile that she was 16. More details in article.

momof3and1
06-04-2010, 12:16 PM
JUST POSTED ON FB that JORDAN JOHNSON has been found!

raeann
06-04-2010, 12:53 PM
Body found in Harris county....

http://www.khou.com/news/Body-found-in-northeast-Harris-County-95616559.html

A facebook page commenter said it is 1.4 miles from the Burger Barn

claudicici
06-05-2010, 03:58 AM
...this seems to be completely unrelated....it's a bar down the street,supposedly what happened is someone tried to set the place on fire and he was shot by the owner...

JustToSeeYouSmile
06-05-2010, 08:17 AM
Can you tell me more about the Lawhon sisters? The only one I can find is Amanda, and when I clicked on heidisearchcenter, the link has been disabled.

I wish I did, there is almost no info available. They keep coming up under a certain profile though (age/circumstance/physical appearance).

fuego
06-06-2010, 01:14 PM
Looks like a woman's partially clothed body (age and ethnicity uncertain) was found in a ditch in SE Houston yesterday afternoon: http://www.khou.com/news/local/Womans-body-found-in-ditch-in--95697319.html and http://www.click2houston.com/news/23806122/detail.html

Police are said to be checking the missing persons listings to see if this woman matches. What a sad ending for someone, whether or not it's one of these missing young women. :(

momof3and1
06-06-2010, 01:17 PM
Looks like a woman's partially clothed body (age and ethnicity uncertain) was found in a ditch in SE Houston yesterday afternoon: http://www.khou.com/news/local/Womans-body-found-in-ditch-in--95697319.html and http://www.click2houston.com/news/23806122/detail.html

Police are said to be checking the missing persons listings to see if this woman matches. What a sad ending for someone, whether or not it's one of these missing young women. :(

I agree...I don't know if it's linked or not, but either way...just sad.

cluciano63
06-06-2010, 01:34 PM
That's three bodies, at leas two female, since May 22...but not a word about ID on any of them that I have been able to find...I think the first one was probably linked to the guy they arrested...but not sure about the one found this past Friday, that seemed to near Spring, IIRC...

KR2tonenow
06-06-2010, 07:54 PM
Looks like a woman's partially clothed body (age and ethnicity uncertain) was found in a ditch in SE Houston yesterday afternoon: http://www.khou.com/news/local/Womans-body-found-in-ditch-in--95697319.html and http://www.click2houston.com/news/23806122/detail.html

Police are said to be checking the missing persons listings to see if this woman matches. What a sad ending for someone, whether or not it's one of these missing young women. :(

I hope this Jane Doe is identified soon. I wish these teens can go home...with their families.

flowerlady
06-07-2010, 07:37 AM
Bump for Ali, Chasity and all the other girls still missing in TX.

fhc
06-07-2010, 04:41 PM
WTH is going on?????

Ali's name has been removed from the state of Texas missing website, but i can't find any news reports. Does anyone know anything?

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/MissingPersons.asp?Date=new

and nothing here

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=106227709421279&v=wall&ref=search

fuego
06-07-2010, 04:59 PM
WTH is going on?????

Ali's name has been removed from the state of Texas missing website, but i can't find any news reports. Does anyone know anything?

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/MissingPersons.asp?Date=new

and nothing here

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=106227709421279&v=wall&ref=search

You're looking at the page for new cases. :)
She's in the regular missing database still (as a "runaway," sigh) : http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpch.htm

nurselady
06-09-2010, 08:55 PM
Back to page one..

cluciano63
06-09-2010, 09:39 PM
Any word on the bodies of the females found recently? I keep trying to google and look up on chron.com but not finding anything new...:(

momof3and1
06-14-2010, 12:35 AM
Bump for the girls

KT Can
06-14-2010, 07:44 PM
Bumping for Ali and the girls. Heard a rumor about Ali just now...not going to post anything until it's discounted or verified. Praying for her family right now.

krista
06-14-2010, 11:16 PM
Ali's family will hold a prayer vigil this Thursday. http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/Local_News/LOWITZER_FAMILY_TO_HOLD_PRAYER_VIGIL_FOR_MISSING_D AUGHTER/30982

cluciano63
06-15-2010, 12:17 AM
Oh dear, a rumor, then a prayer vigil scheduled? does not sound good :( hope i am wrong...but on the other hand, i would be shocked if she ran away.

momof3and1
06-15-2010, 12:26 AM
Oh dear, a rumor, then a prayer vigil scheduled? does not sound good :( hope i am wrong...but on the other hand, i would be shocked if she ran away.

It last week that it was for all of the girls, and now it kinda sounds like it's just for Ali...not sure what is going on.

juzme116
06-16-2010, 01:49 PM
I heard this was for all of the girls too. Now it appears as it is just for Ali however her family will invite the other families to speak "time permitting".

cluciano63
06-18-2010, 07:06 PM
Is there even a criminal investigation in progress for Ali? It has been nearly two months she was last seen.

And anything at all on the bodies they keep finding all over greater Houston area? Good grief.

scuseme
06-22-2010, 06:39 PM
I live in Katy and this was in the Houston Chronicle's Sunday Katy edition..


Chasity was a 10th-grade student at Langham Creek High School when one afternoon she simply didn’t get off the bus at her usual stop.


Christy said there’s no way Chasity ran away.
"She didn’t take anything with her, not clothes, not her cell phone," Christy said. "She was acting completely normal that morning, and she has younger siblings she adores."


more at the link

http://www.ultimatekaty.com/2010/06/mom-missing-teen-not-runaway

scuseme
06-22-2010, 06:42 PM
Here is a link to Chasity's "Missing" Facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=119856788025382&ref=search

fuego
06-24-2010, 10:45 PM
Just saw on Facebook that Chasity has been found! :D :D

scuseme
06-24-2010, 11:17 PM
GOt an email from the FB page...Chasity is home!

flowerlady
06-29-2010, 12:43 PM
I am overjoyed for Chasity's family that she has been found safe and is returning home. They must be in 7th Heaven right about now. Wonderful news...

Alexandria's family, however, is still in limbo -- tortured every day by thoughts of where their beautiful child is, what happened to her and wondering when (or, indeed, even "IF") Ali will return to them.

Bumping this for Ali.

WHERE IS ALEXANDRIA LOWITZER?

cluciano63
06-29-2010, 04:07 PM
Sadly, I don't think Ali will be coming home, at least not in the way her parents are hoping. She never appeared to be at all inclined to leave on her own, from anything we have been told.

maygirl
07-01-2010, 03:26 AM
Claudicici, I agree with you about there not being any investigative reporters now. And it's just crazy that the police won't release the description of the would-be abductor to the public. I maily joined this site as I found it while trying to learn something more on the case of Robert Ellis Hinton charged with abuse of a corpse. I have some personal information about this case because I know a family member of the person who the police believe that the body belonged to. I wouldn't want to say anything that would possibly jeopardize the case because I want it solved and I want this low life to get all he has comming to him. It would be horrible for him to get off on this. I will say that the police believe it is a certain person he was aquainted with and that person has been missing for three months now. A missing persons report was made shortly after the person did not come home because that was really abnormal. The body being charred as it is makes DNA harder to identify but an officer did tell the family that it was comming along and it looks like it will be what they suspected. DNA testing has really came along ways recently and I pray for the best. Now lastnight I called the Mongomery County Jail to ask if the charges had been upgraded and I learned that he got a murder charge added June 29. Since that's public information, I don't feel compelled to keep it to myself. That charge wasn't there before because I have called from time to time to check. When you hear all of his charges against him it will just make you sick that someone like that was living amoung us and not locked up and the key thown away but that's not justice here is it? He's been in prison before and then he has a number of theif and other charges. Then when I Googled for information on him I found an article entitled: "Crime Spree Was A Wild Ride, Then Came The Ride To Jail." Nov. 14, 2009. It Googles right up. After reading that and seeing the numerous crimes he was busted with in one single day and then counting the time, 6 months later here he is busted with the corpse, I just get sick. Then there is something my dial up won't bring up in a website with his name from 2007. I read on another article about him pleading guilty for being involved in organized crime and really there are so many cases of theft that I just can't keep up with them all. I just wonder who is enableing this monster to walk our streets. His mother or is it our justice system? Is someone bonding him out before trial? What the hell is going on? This is just beyond my comprehension. Anyhow I just wanted to inform the public that it is not likely that any of the missing girls mentioned would be this corpse. It's very sad to hear these reports. I would have never known about them if I wasn't seeking information on that devil mentioned.

wanttohelp
07-06-2010, 11:28 AM
ali has a few myspace accounts, they dont all have last login though and one without a pic is private and has the name gir i think it was

wanttohelp
07-06-2010, 11:43 AM
Also this is recent girl who was killed in the area. They did find she was posting for services on craigslist, but she had just moved from Iowa and was young. Who knows what some of the endangered runaways may have gotten involved with.
LINK (http://www.thehawkeye.com/story/Texas-homicide-060410)
Overlook Lane in West Houston
LINK (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7043110.html)

fhc
07-09-2010, 07:01 PM
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=106227709421279&v=wall&ref=search

Her parents posted today that she is still missing.

jnTexas
07-09-2010, 07:15 PM
http://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/?p=7750

burned body identified:

The victim has been positively identified through D.N.A. as Deborah Carol Applegate W\F

flowerlady
07-14-2010, 05:05 AM
Bump for Ali.

momof3and1
07-24-2010, 02:54 AM
Chasity Armstrong has been found. Bridgette Bilotta has been found(and disappeared again), so Ali is the last one of this group.

momof3and1
07-24-2010, 02:55 AM
Cynthia Tucker has also been found.

flowerlady
08-17-2010, 08:52 PM
Keeping the light on for Ali...

flowerlady
08-26-2010, 06:43 PM
Bumping again for Ali...

cluciano63
08-26-2010, 07:08 PM
I have been thinking about her this week...and her family. What a horrible, tragic situation to be in...

nobodyspecial
08-26-2010, 08:19 PM
Where Ali went to high school is just a couple of minutes drive from here.

There are some pretty wooded areas around here, and unfortunately a number of RSOs close by.

Prayers for her family, and some kind of closure to this. Preferably the happy kind of closure.

trigger
08-26-2010, 10:06 PM
I cannot believe its been over 4 months since she has been missing.


Praying for some news on her whereabouts.



Please let her be found........:praying:

flowerlady
08-31-2010, 09:46 PM
I was in a serious auto accident the last week of July that totalled my car -- woke up in the ICU missing 3 days... The surgeons replaced my hip, I have 3 compressed vertebrae in my back and 3 cracked ribs (plus numerous punctures, scrapes, bruises, etc.) but, still, not a day goes by that I don't think about Ali and wonder where she is...

Bumping again for Ali and her family.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
09-06-2010, 01:20 AM
Benefit scheduled for missing Spring teen

Their nights have been sleepless, their days filled with worry, and their efforts relentless.

John and Jo Ann Lowitzer want their daughter back.

[snip]

On Sept. 18, the family will hold a fundraiser, with proceeds going toward the continuation of search parties, the financing of fliers and other media, and to raise the award for tips leading to the recovery of Ali.

More: http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/09/05/spring_observer/news/36solowitzer.txt

flowerlady
09-18-2010, 01:02 PM
Wish I could be there in Texas today to show my support for Ali and her family. Unfortunately, I'm still recovering from my auto accident here in California but, I'm bumping this for Ali.

nobodyspecial
09-18-2010, 02:08 PM
I think we're going to head out to the fundraiser if we can shuffle around some things on our schedule today. It's not far away, and it'd be nice to be able to help somehow.

cluciano63
09-18-2010, 04:14 PM
I was thinking about Ali yesterday...I wonder if she will ever be found; probably not alive, as I never believed she left on her own. I hope they can raise the funds to do whatever they believe might help. I just wish there was more to go on and had been greater interest from LE at the start.

B4igo2it
10-20-2010, 02:29 AM
I was at the benefit and it was a great success! I was so happy to see all the people there! I live near Ali and the place where the benefit was held. Everyone I know is looking for Ali, and remembering her family in thought and prayers. They have increased the reward with a portion of the benefit funds :)

B4igo2it
10-20-2010, 02:37 AM
I also want to mention that I worked for the census this past summer (4 months) and kept my eyes open for any signs of Ali. I worked in a 10 mile radius of her residence.
... I continue to remain hopeful!

flowerlady
11-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Ali Lowitzer: Missing but far from forgotten...

Bump for Ali.

burbqueen
11-08-2010, 03:22 PM
Ok, I was watching unsolved mysteries and in the Houston area there were many missing girls found murdered. I wonder if this is related.

B4igo2it
11-08-2010, 09:56 PM
For some reason, LE believes Ali is a runaway - I hope they are right and she returns home soon. She has been gone far too long. I remain hopeful and ask the Lord to protect her from harm.

dreamweaver
11-13-2010, 09:50 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7018939.html

Lowitzer said he believes investigators think Ali ran off because entries in a journal found in her bedroom indicated she had contemplated running away. But Lowitzer maintains Ali wrote such comments in could have been written as many as three years ago.
The Harris County Sheriff's Office, which pulled its homicide division into the case early last week as a “fresh pair of eyes” on the case, is “looking into it non-stop,” said Christina Garza, manager of media relations.

more......

That Monday afternoon before she vanished, Ali called her mother and said she didn't have a key to their home in the Postwood subdivision and was going to walk to the Burger Barn on Cypresswood about a quarter-mile away to pick up her paycheck.
That was odd because Ali had never trekked the distance before.

The good news is the homicide unit is looking at the case, but from this news article, I can understand why LE felt she was a runaway at first.

claudicici
11-13-2010, 10:16 AM
yes,but I think LE needs to change the way they look at "run away" cases.It should not matter .Either way a CHILD is missing and is obviously endangered.All resources should be used and all angles should be looked at...somehow I feel "run away" cases are not being taken serious enough...

flowerlady
11-21-2010, 01:12 PM
Bump for Ali...

WHERE IS ALI LOWITZER?

B4igo2it
11-26-2010, 03:59 PM
yes,but I think LE needs to change the way they look at "run away" cases.It should not matter .Either way a CHILD is missing and is obviously endangered.All resources should be used and all angles should be looked at...somehow I feel "run away" cases are not being taken serious enough...

I agree with you 100% and if classified as a runaway; no add'l resources are needed.

Been remembering Ali's family during this time of Thanksgiving with hopes she comes home alive and well to give them a 'Thanksgiving" they will never forget! Where are you Ali? Please come home soon :angel:

flowerlady
12-01-2010, 02:35 PM
Where is Ali?

Bump for Ali...

flowerlady
12-28-2010, 06:07 PM
Bumping again for Ali...

How must her family have felt when Thanksgiving and Christmas and, soon, New Year's Day come and go and there is still no word on her or where she is?

They and she are in my thoughts always...

belfastgirl73
12-28-2010, 07:36 PM
Bumping for Ali.

flowerlady
01-22-2011, 03:28 PM
Bumping yet again for Ali...

(Praying for the day I won't have to keep doing this...)

flowerlady
04-23-2011, 10:46 PM
Disappointed to see no further info on Ali's case and that no one has bumped this thread back up to the top...

(As the following -- first a question, now a shrieking scream)

WHERE IS ALEXANDRIA LOWITZER?

Ali, you are always in my mind...

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
04-23-2011, 10:51 PM
Just FYI, Ali has her own thread here: TX TX - Alexandria Joy Lowitzer, 16, Spring, 26 April 2010 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

flowerlady
07-07-2011, 06:46 PM
PLEASE NOTE!! ANOTHER SEARCH IS SCHEDULED TO FIND ALI!!

The following from the Lowitzers via Ali's FaceBook page:

NEEDED! Searchers for Ali on July 16th at 7:00 am. We will search till around 11:00 am. Due to the heat we nd many volunteers to search so we can cover a lot of area in ample time. Please bring with you your I.D., a pole/stick, water bottle, sunscreen/bug spray (for your protection from the elements), and dress comfortably yet in cl...othing that will protect you from brush. If you can help please contact Bob Walcut with LRC, John or JoAnn Lowitzer. We will meet at the church in Spring at the corner of Treashwig & Cypresswood, next to the Subway. If you know someone that can help have them notify Larry Rice as well. LET'S HELP BRING ALI HOME! Thank you

WBS68
07-17-2011, 08:39 PM
I have been following the case of Alexandria for about a week after it happened. If you compare her circumstances to others in that area, you will note that a lot of the disappearances have taken place on a Monday or a Friday. This can mean many things, perhaps it was planned or someone else observes when the best time is to grab an unsuspecting person. I am curious as to the fact if this area has been monitored. A Friday disappearance would point to a run away, but I doubt a Monday disappearance would be one that would be connected to a run away case. Ali vanished on a Monday.
Does anyone have any other input on this?
Thanks all

JenniferTx
07-18-2011, 10:58 AM
How did the search go over the weekend?

flowerlady
09-03-2011, 11:07 AM
There is another thread here on W/S for Ali and I am posting the URL below for it because, for interested parties, there is far more information on that thread than on this one:

TX TX - Alexandria Joy Lowitzer, 16, Spring, 26 April 2010 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

And, to W/S Admin:

Do you think it might be advisable, in the interest of efficiency, to combine both of these threads into one? (Just wondering...)

WHERE IS ALI LOWITZER?

WBS68
12-20-2011, 10:09 PM
I am of the mind that wherever she is, the person who took her or left with was someone who knew her address and knew her schedule. She had started a job right before she vanished, I am wondering if this job has something to do with this or any other place she may have looked for work.

flowerlady
01-02-2012, 03:55 AM
WB,
Please go to the other thread regarding Ali's disappearance. There you will find much info that confirms your thoughts on the matter...

Bumping for Ali.