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Tricia
05-16-2010, 01:04 PM
Here is a brief recap of the Abraham Shakespeare Case. Thank you ACandyRose for your help in putting this together for us.

Abraham Shakespeare won $31 million in 2006 Florida Lotto. The 43-year-old was last seen in the Lakeland area in early April 2009 but wasn't reported missing until November 9, 2009. The Polk County Sheriff's Department began investigating.

By January 2010, Dorice "Dee Dee" Moore was listed as a person of Interest by the Polk County Florida Sheriff's Department. Reports were that Dee Dee Moore was text messaging Abraham's family on the guise that it was Abraham.

Then on January 26, 2010, Abraham Shakespears body was found buried in the back yard of 5802 State Rd 60 in Plant City, Florida, a home owned by Dee Dee Moore's boyfriend, Shar Krasniqi. In the Probable Cause Affidavit of 02/19/2010 (Page 17), "Ms. Moore further advised that the victim had been killed in her office and pointed to the residence located at 5732 Highway 60, which is located directly to the west of the residence where the victim's body is buried.

Dorice "Dee Dee" Moore was arrested on 02/02/2010 for Accessory after the fact / First Degree Murder, in the death of Abraham Shakespeare in Hillsborough County, Florida. On 02/19/2010 a Probable Cause Affidavit was issued and Dorice Moore was charged with First Degree Murder.

Dorice Moore is currently in the Hillsborough County Jail since her arrest 02/02/2010. She is charged with CAPITAL MURDER in the death of Abraham Shakespeare. (Case Number: 10-CF-001733). She is being held without bond. A court appearance was scheduled 05/10/2010 but Dee Dee Moore waived the court appearance. Currently, the Hillsborough County court docket shows a scheduled disposition hearing for 07/08/2010 at 9:00am before Judge Daniel M. Sleet.

Dorice Moore was also arrested 03/03/2010 on a Wiretapping (Interception of Wire or Oral Communication) charge (Case Number: 10-CF-003449), Hillsborough County, Florida. The Hillsborough County court docket shows a scheduled disposition hearing for 07/08/2010 at 9:00am before Judge Daniel M. Sleet.

Troy McKay Young, a Lakeland Police Officer was arrested 01/25/2010 in Polk County, Florida and charged with "Unlawful Compensation and Misuse of Confidential information." (Case # 532010CF0003940000XX). Troy McKay Young reportedly provided Dee Dee Moore with information obtained through law enforcement data bases and information on identities of vehicle owners on tags Dee Dee Moore provided. The Polk County court docket shows a hearing scheduled for Tuesday, 05/18/2010


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I won't be putting the pictures back up of the house. So that issue is now a non-issue.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Tricia
05-16-2010, 01:09 PM
Here is a post from Adnoid (one of the moderators of this thread) which he posted right before the last thread was pulled. I'm putting it here because I don't think many of you saw it.



Adnoid said:
Good evening, folks. I've been tied up with real life, so to save time I'm going to address a number of questions and concerns all together here, in this post, on the thread, so that everyone can benefit - and so I only have to go through it once.

First, some general advice. We on the staff always happy to discuss things with you. However - and this does not only apply here at WS but in the world in general - don't ask for something you don't want. If you say we can go ahead and ban you if you don't get things your way, we may fulfill your expectations and ban you. If you say you know we won't do anything about a situation, we may fulfill your expectations by not doing anything. In either case you have no reason to complain about the outcome, because it was your idea.

Now then.

We are here to discuss crimes, among other things. We may not know exactly what crimes were committed against Abraham, but without a doubt he is a crime victim. He was living his life without bothering anyone, and because he came in to money his money was stolen from him by various means, he was killed and his body was hidden, and his family is left with a big empty hole where this man once was. Meanwhile, various people are running around with various bits and pieces of what was his and should now be in the hands of his family, but is not.

Those are the facts, and they are not in dispute.

If you want to discuss the particulars of this crime, including scouring public records to try to determine who can be shown to have ended up with Abraham's things, that's fine. If you knew Abraham, had dealings with him, or had dealings with people that have been identified, that's fine. But under NO CIRCUMSTANCES are you to direct your comments at EACH OTHER and/or try to settle your disputes here on the board. That's not what we do here, but despite repeated warnings it keeps happening. The thread has been yanked for the last time, next time the posters who cannot follow the rules will go. It's only fair to everyone else.

Furthermore, the moderators here are not going to judge the merits of anyone's claims and establish an official position that everyone must follow. Again, that's not what we do here. Either side of any argument can be made, although we do all have to use the same facts.

Argue your case, not with the other posters.

I assume this is clear now.
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Susan1
05-16-2010, 02:20 PM
Quoted from above":

"Troy McKay Young, a Lakeland Police Officer was arrested 01/25/2010 in Polk County, Florida and charged with "Unlawful Compensation and Misuse of Confidential information." (Case # 532010CF0003940000XX). Troy McKay Young reportedly provided Dee Dee Moore with information obtained through law enforcement data bases and information on identities of vehicle owners on tags Dee Dee Moore provided. The Polk County court docket shows a hearing scheduled for Tuesday, 05/18/2010".
Troy Young was also the officer who accompanied Dorice Moore to the bank to open Abraham's safety deposit box at her request as per the probable cause statement. This was a result of a previous Judgement a law firm had against Abraham, I believe it was for their services in the lottery ticket defense. Dorice Moore managed to get herself substituted for the Plaintiff in that case.
There are 40 pages of discovery in Troy Young's file at the clerk's office. I will be checking them out next Friday. I am hoping his hearing will also bring to light what was in the safety deposit box. I will be trying to get the previous file on the Judgement that allowed her to open that box to see if there was an inventory of what was in it.

Thank you, Trisha for bring the thread back.

A_New_Day
05-16-2010, 02:54 PM
YAY!! Thank you Trisha!! :woohoo:

I was starting to worry.

Hopefully there will be more arrests in this case soon. I remember the case in Sarasota The Sheila Ballush murder. They knew who was ultimately responsible, her millionaire ex-husband in Texas, but it took like two years to finally get him and make it stick.

Link to story on that:
http://www.sptimes.com/News/webspecials/ongoing/bellush.murder/default.html

I have a lot of faith in LE. Besides there are at least two agencies working on it now.

Hear that Stitzel? How about you JK and SK? You are done.

MOO

joybell
05-16-2010, 03:00 PM
ok....oh happy day....

joybell
05-16-2010, 03:28 PM
New alert......reunion...sunday night 6pm (before survivor).....i will bring chips and dips...lol...need more food...we all need to know we r here...

LadyL
05-16-2010, 03:29 PM
ok, I think I'm having a stupid moment
I've been following this case from the very beginning but I simply don't remember anything about the wiretapping charge?
I must have missed a few days/posts in a row or something

off to dig ...

A_New_Day
05-16-2010, 04:18 PM
I'll bring the chicken dip and margaritas! :toastred:

A_New_Day
05-16-2010, 04:19 PM
ok, I think I'm having a stupid moment
I've been following this case from the very beginning but I simply don't remember anything about the wiretapping charge?
I must have missed a few days/posts in a row or something

off to dig ...

LOL! Nawww LadyL, so much going on, it's easy to miss something.

LadyL
05-16-2010, 04:53 PM
LOL! Nawww LadyL, so much going on, it's easy to miss something.

(-; ty for that vote of confidence

I found it on the Ledger website ... didn't give much in the way of details so off I go to search some more!

tigergal71
05-16-2010, 04:54 PM
WOW!!! I've been checking daily for the thread to reappear. Thank you Tricia for getting us back up and running. :woohoo:

Is everyone present and accounted for?? I dont even remember where we left off.

Time to start anew!

Susan1
05-16-2010, 05:08 PM
http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/oridev/criminal_pack.cs?pcSearchMode=NS&pnPidm=550018&pcCaseId=10-CF-003449&pnCnt=1&pcFirst=DEEDEE&pcLast=MOORE&pcMi=&pcSuf=&pcId=@549230&pcByear=1972&pcPtyp=D001&pcDefStat=Opened&pdInit=03-MAR-10&pcCaseStat=Opened&pcCtyp=OT&pcLocn=TA&pcPref=&pcWarrant=&pcCaseDscr=OTHER&pcDiv=A&pcCourtType=&pnCaseYrFr=1970&pnCaseYrTo=2010&pcCtypCL=&pcLocnCL=
The link above is to the wiretapping case.

Below is a link to the article about the wiretapping. As a previous poster pointed out, the recording was done in a park where one does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy and therefore, how well that charge will stick has yet to be determined:

http://www.theledger.com/article/20100311/NEWS/3115059

The link below is for the murder case:
http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/oridev/criminal_pack.doc?pcSearchMode=CS&pnPidm=550018&pcCaseId=10-CF-001733&pnCnt=1&pcCourtType=

The link below provides a link to the probable cause affidavit for murder. I tried linking to the actual document, but it wanted to load on this page and took forever, so this is the two step way to get there:

http://www.theledger.com/article/20100220/MULTIMEDIA/100229991/-1/TOPIC0115?Title=Document-DeeDee-Moore-Probable-Cause-Affidavit

Susan1
05-16-2010, 07:40 PM
As per the Probable Cause Affidavit:
Although Abraham won $31 million in the Florida lottery, he elected the lump sum payout and collected approximately $12.7 million after taxes. Between the time he won the lotto and he met Dorice Moore in the latter part of 2008, Abraham had spent, gave away, or loaned the majority of his winnings and was left with approximately $1.5 million in cash and approximately $3 million in assets. Within 4 months of meeting Abraham, Dorice had secured control over approximately $3.5 million of the victims remaining assets, including cash, real property, and outstanding debt owed to Shakespeare.
In December 2008, Abraham liquidated an annuities account worth approximately $250,000. In January 2009, this money was transferred to the business account of American Medical Professionals, a business owned by Dorice Moore since 2004. In her interviews, Ms. Moore stated this money was provided to her for the purposes of paying taxes on behalf of Abraham. This money was tracked to several recipients, including Ms. Moore's boyfriend, Shar Krasniqi, and Real Time Services, American Medical Proessionals' payroll and accounting service. Additionally, a review of bank statements of American Medical Professionals and accounts related to Dorice Moore has shown that Moore utilized the American Medical Professionals checking account as her primary account, including personal charges. Any personal accounts of Dorice Moore that have been located have minimal activity. The investigation has not reveealed any records of these funds having been used to pay any tax debt of Abraham.
Now this is not a word for word quote, but it is pretty darn close. The woman's name is Dorice, not Deedee. I have yet to see any legal name change for her. Her marriage license states her name is Dorice. She would have had to provide ID for that. So for me, Dorice is her name.
The criminal probable cause affidavit clearly states that the money went into the account of American Medical Professionals, a business Dorice has owned since 2004. That is the LLC company. I have yet to see a retraction or a correction from the Sheriff's Department. They even say the money was traced to her payroll company.
I am looking forward to their releasing the Discovery documents to the public and I am hoping they include the bank statements and the reports that traced this money into each account. It would appear from the affidavit that Dorice Moore defrauded Abraham of this money and used it for her boyfriend and her business, American Medical Professionals, LLC, payroll service.

Susan1
05-16-2010, 08:49 PM
They say there was $1.5 million in cash = $1,500,000.
On page 4 of the affidavit, it goes on with more cash leaving Abraham and going under Dorice's control.
On Feb. 5, 2009, a faxed request form for surrender of the Prudential Annuities Account in the name of Abraham Shakespeare, purportedly with Shakespeare's signature, was faxed from Staples in Lakeland, Florida. The surrender form requested the full amount contained in the account, $1,095 million (=$1,095,000) to be paid in the form of a check made payable to Abraham Shakespeare and sent via mail to his address.
On Feb. 9, 2009, Ms. Moore registerd the business Abraham Shakespeare, LLC, with the Department of State, Division of Corporations, where she is listed as the registered agent and director.
On Feb. 10, 2009, Ms. Moore opened an account at Bank of America in the name of Abraham Shakespeare, LLC with $100 cash. Ms. Moore was the only signor on the account at that time.
On Feb. 11, 2009, Dorice Moore provided the bank Articles of Incorporation along with papers purporting to be "meeting minutes" of the "board" of Abraham Shakespeare, LLC. Contained among the meeting minutes were minutes of a "meeting" which was purported to be "attended" by Dorice Moore, Judith Haggins, and Abraham Shakespeare. The document discussion was about adding Abraham Shakespeare's name as an authorized signer. Furhter, the $1.095 million check from Abraham's Prudential Annuities account was then deposited into the Bank of America account in the name of Abraham Shakespeare, LLC...
No activity occurred in the Bank of America account until Feb. 17, 2009, when the bank was again provided with "meeting minutes" of Abraham Shakespeare, LLC, by Dorice Moore. Ms. Moore was the only person listed in attendance. These "minutes" describe the purported discovery of "criminal activity" on the part of Shakespeare, which may result in criminal charges. Ms. Moore directed Bank of America, consistent with the information within the meeting minutes, to remove Abraham Shakespeare as an authorized signatory on the Abraham Shakespeare LLC account. Bank of America complied with Dorice Moore's directive and removed Abraham as an authorized signatory to this account. As a result of Dorice Moore's directives, Abraham Shakespeare no longer had access to the $1.095 million that he transferred into the account six days earlier.
From Feb. 10 to Feb. 17, 2009, the account shows no activity.
On Feb. 18, 2009, a cashiers check for $250,000 was drawn on Abraham Shakespear LLC account and was made payable to ASTAT which was deposited in to a Navy Federal Union account. ASTAT and Supply, LLC was a business registed with the Department of State Division of Corporation and was reinstated as an active corporation on Oct. 15, 2008. Shar Krasniqi was listed as CEO. Addionally, the account holder of the Navy Federal Credit Union account is Shar Krasniqi.
Further, on Feb. 18, 2009, a cashiers check for the sum of $250,000 was drawn on the Abraham Shakespeare LLC Account made payable to the IRS. This check was endorsed by D. Moore. Notated on the check, in the endorsement section, were the hand written words "not needed for intended purpose". This $250,000 check is then deposited into the business account of American Medical Professionals LLC. By the use of the endorsement "not needed for intended purpose" Dorice Moore was able to divert the sum of $250,000 from its intended purpose to her own control and benefit.
On Feb. 19 and Feb. 23, 2009, cashiers check for $200,000 and $250,000 respectively, were drawn on the account of Abraham Shakespear, LLC and were made payable to American Medical Professionals.
During the month of Feb. 2009, Judy Haggins and D. Howard Stitzel received approximately $20,000 each from the account of Abraham Shakespeare, LLC.
An electronic debit check made payable to the IRS in the amount of $30,000 was issued from the same account.
The balance of the Abraham Shakespear LLC account as of Feb. 28, 2009 was $44,296.
Transactions from the Abraham Shakespeare LLC, Bank of America account show funds were transferred to the account of American Medical Professionals (Dorice Moore), ASTAT and Supply (Shar Krasniqi) just 2 months before the purchase of a residence located at 5802 Hwy 60 East for approximately $253,000 in April 2009, titled to Shar Krasniqi,. Richard Land, the former owner of the property, stated to detectives that Dorice Moore paid him with a check from the account of American Medical Professionals.

Susan1
05-16-2010, 09:52 PM
If my numbers are correct from the information from the affidavit, Dorice owned both American Medical Professional companies at this time. $500,000 is associated with AMP, LLC and another $450,000 to AMP without the suffix. So Dorice transferred $950,000 of Abraham's money to her own companies. She transferred another $250,000 from Abraham's account to Shar's company.
This is just the cash portion. Dorice also transferred the property loans over to herself. Those were the people she was complaining would not pay up on their loans.
I cannot see anything that either Dorice or Shar did for Abraham to earn that money. In my opinion, these are the money amounts that Dorice and Shar and their companies took from Abraham, and these are the money amounts that Dorice and Shar and both their companies should be forced to pay back to Abraham's family, plus interest. Shar turned over the Corvette, but he also needs to Quit Claim the tan house with all it's improvements over to Abraham's estate, IMO. The assignments should be reassigned to Abraham's estate as well.

Susan1
05-16-2010, 10:52 PM
http://www.weblocator.com/attorney/fl/law/whitcolcrim.html
I was looking at another aspect of this case, can the corporation be held liable for criminal activity, and I found the link above. Since the money was funneled through at least two, if not more, corporations, it would seem there may be laws that could be used to prosecute the corporations and the agents of the corporations as well. The link above discusses corporate liability and the different crimes a corporation and their agents can be charged with.
There are other threads here that have verified lawyers posting. How can we go about getting our thread a verified lawyer?

tigergal71
05-16-2010, 11:40 PM
If my numbers are correct from the information from the affidavit, Dorice owned both American Medical Professional companies at this time. $500,000 is associated with AMP, LLC and another $450,000 to AMP without the suffix. So Dorice transferred $950,000 of Abraham's money to her own companies. She transferred another $250,000 from Abraham's account to Shar's company.
This is just the cash portion. Dorice also transferred the property loans over to herself. Those were the people she was complaining would not pay up on their loans.
I cannot see anything that either Dorice or Shar did for Abraham to earn that money. In my opinion, these are the money amounts that Dorice and Shar and their companies took from Abraham, and these are the money amounts that Dorice and Shar and both their companies should be forced to pay back to Abraham's family, plus interest. Shar turned over the Corvette, but he also needs to Quit Claim the tan house with all it's improvements over to Abraham's estate, IMO. The assignments should be reassigned to Abraham's estate as well.

What about the million dollars that was in the trust fund that she liquidated after she had AS removed as a signor? Also, I would assume all assignments would have to be reversed since they were STOLEN from him and she didn't purchase them. I hope the family is going after all that as well!

tigergal71
05-16-2010, 11:42 PM
What about the million dollars that was in the trust fund that she liquidated after she had AS removed as a signor? Also, I would assume all assignments would have to be reversed since they were STOLEN from him and she didn't purchase them. I hope the family is going after all that as well!

Nevermind. I missed it in your prior post. Sorry! (its late LOL)

Susan1
05-16-2010, 11:59 PM
I am very interested in the legal liability of the corporations that Abraham's money has been funnelled through and if the liability extends beyond Dorice's ownership. I found an attorney on another thread who was willing to answer my question and who gave his permission for me to post the answer. So here is what I found out:

Originally Posted by Susan1
I am coming over from the Abraham Shakepeare thread where we don't have any lawyers.
Dorice Moore took about $950,000 of Abraham's money and funnelled it through her company, American Medical Professionals. She then allegedly murdered Abraham. Months later, she either gave or sold her corporation to another woman.
What I wanted to know is if the corporation is responsible for damages and if the new owner would assume that liability since it is still the same corporation.
I don't know if you can help us or not, but it is not personal legal advice, it is for this case.
Thanks for responding to me. I wasn't sure if anyone would.
You are more than welcome to come on over to our thread and join us as well. I'm sure the posters over there would love to hear what you had to say.
Susan


11:04 PM AZlawyer
Oh, sorry! I just have to be careful that I'm giving "information" and not "advice."

Here's how it would work: Abraham's estate would sue DM, and get a judgment against her for the theft. Then they could take whatever assets she had (including whatever $ she got from selling the corp) to collect on the judgment. If she "gave away" the corp, the transfer could likely be set aside as a fraud--I don't know the facts, but giving away a corp that just received $950,000 sounds like a fraud to me--and the $ could be returned to the estate that way. If it is necessary to set aside the sale, the corporation and perhaps the new owner would have to be named as defendant(s) at that point.

Please feel free to post this on whichever thread you think is appropriate. And if you guys have legal questions in the future on that case, PM me.

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Thank you, AZlawyer, for your assistance. I hope that you will come and join us here as well. We've had many legal questions along the way and the more legal experts we can get the better. I appreciate your help.

Susan1
05-17-2010, 12:12 AM
AZLawyer, I hope you do come to visit us because I do have another question for you. Dorice has been charged with both murder and wiretapping. We had another poster look up the law and it would seem to exclude tape recording conversations in a public place where you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. It is our understanding from what we read in the Ledger that the tape recording was done in a park. If what we are reading is correct, I don't see how that charge can stand, and yet it has not been dismissed so I think we must be missing something.

Susan1
05-17-2010, 12:18 AM
Another good lawyer question, if Dorice used the IRS check to divert money into her account, by using the IRS on the check to do it, couldn't they also get involved?
I should have gone to law school. Well, it is never too late they say.

Susan1
05-17-2010, 12:27 AM
Good night, Jamaica. Have a good one, mate.

A_New_Day
05-17-2010, 12:34 AM
If they do peek in, THANK YOU AZlawyer!! I kind of suspected that, but I'm not a lawyer. At all.

I would love to hear a practicing attorney's opinion on this stuff.. Would they laugh? Would they cry? Would their head explode?

Seems like all of this might make a great case-study for a law student. So many issues.
Plenty of criminal law, maybe some constitutional issues (the wire-tapping) then of course the civil and going after all of the scattered assets.

So many people sucked into a moral vacuum. I know it's only wishful thinking that they all pay, guess I'll have to leave it to Godsmack and karma to clean up the rest.

A_New_Day
05-17-2010, 12:38 AM
LOL! Same to you, Mon.

Dream of soft, salty breezes, sandy beaches and maybe even a really CUTE surfer. (Don't tell hubby I said that! LOL)

joybell
05-17-2010, 12:41 AM
...look the only law firm ddm has been involved with is , doem, cheatem...and how...if u need a dr...call me my name is Dr. Zombobway....lol...no kidding...thank you azlawyer...thank you....this law stuff can cover me up....

A_New_Day
05-17-2010, 12:45 AM
Girl, you give me the giggles sometimes. :floorlaugh:

AZlawyer
05-17-2010, 12:47 AM
AZLawyer, I hope you do come to visit us because I do have another question for you. Dorice has been charged with both murder and wiretapping. We had another poster look up the law and it would seem to exclude tape recording conversations in a public place where you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. It is our understanding from what we read in the Ledger that the tape recording was done in a park. If what we are reading is correct, I don't see how that charge can stand, and yet it has not been dismissed so I think we must be missing something.

I looked at the statute, and it would exclude recordings where the other person has no reasonable expectation that the conversation is private. But that isn't always true in a public park--for example, if 2 people walk to the furthest edge of a park, look around to make sure no one else is nearby, and then hunch over a picnic table and whisper, there is likely a reasonable expectation that the conversation is private.

AZlawyer
05-17-2010, 12:49 AM
Another good lawyer question, if Dorice used the IRS check to divert money into her account, by using the IRS on the check to do it, couldn't they also get involved?
I should have gone to law school. Well, it is never too late they say.

If the "IRS check" was written to the IRS but never actually got sent to the IRS, I doubt they can do anything. (I'm hoping I have this right, since I don't know much about this case.) Did AS owe taxes in that amount, or was it just a ruse by the perp from the beginning?

A_New_Day
05-17-2010, 12:56 AM
AZLawyer, Thanks so much for stopping in.

DDM was a poster here and if I remember correctly she CLAIMED to have paid off a debt FOR Abraham to IRS but after her arrest, the affidavit said it was actually her debt that she either paid or attempted to pay. I'm pretty sure that she did actually pay it though.

AZlawyer
05-17-2010, 12:13 PM
AZLawyer, Thanks so much for stopping in.

DDM was a poster here and if I remember correctly she CLAIMED to have paid off a debt FOR Abraham to IRS but after her arrest, the affidavit said it was actually her debt that she either paid or attempted to pay. I'm pretty sure that she did actually pay it though.

OK, so she allegedly stole this $ from Abraham and gave it TO the IRS? In that case, I don't think the IRS would be able to (or want to) get involved.

tigergal71
05-17-2010, 02:03 PM
OK, so she allegedly stole this $ from Abraham and gave it TO the IRS? In that case, I don't think the IRS would be able to (or want to) get involved.

Hi AZLawyer....So glad you popped over to join us. I appreciate your input, as I know the other posters will as well.

Actually, what happened, is that DDM wrote a check out of an account she was a signor on, along with AS, for the purpose of taxes on AS' behalf. If I remember correctly, without digging in public records again, he DID have a tax bill he owed. She wrote out the check TO the IRS, but then endorsed it on the back with her signature and noted "Not needed for intended purpose" then deposited it into an account that AS did NOT have priviledges to. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's exactly as it happened.

tigergal71
05-17-2010, 02:06 PM
Okay, AZLawyer, this is directly from the criminal affidavit. I'm sorry I didn't do this before I posted the prior post:

*Below snipped from Susan's post on Page 1, taken directly from the criminal affidavit*
Further, on Feb. 18, 2009, a cashiers check for the sum of $250,000 was drawn on the Abraham Shakespeare LLC Account made payable to the IRS. This check was endorsed by D. Moore. Notated on the check, in the endorsement section, were the hand written words "not needed for intended purpose". This $250,000 check is then deposited into the business account of American Medical Professionals LLC. By the use of the endorsement "not needed for intended purpose" Dorice Moore was able to divert the sum of $250,000 from its intended purpose to her own control and benefit.

A_New_Day
05-17-2010, 03:49 PM
Ahhhhh.. Okay, I completely forgot about that part. Thanks TG and Susan1!! I get a little confobled sometimes.. LOL

Coldpizza
05-17-2010, 08:45 PM
While we were on lock down DDM had this court appearance

Most of you might have seen it but I thought I would post to keep others updated

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/deedee-moore-plea-051010

ACandyRose
05-18-2010, 09:21 AM
Here's links to 3 of pages of the Probable Cause Affidavit for the arrest of Troy Young.

Page 1
http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af65/acr-research/shakespeare/865-TroyYoung010810-Pg1.jpg

Page 2
http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af65/acr-research/shakespeare/866-TroyYoung010810-Pg2.jpg

Page 3
http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af65/acr-research/shakespeare/867-TroyYoung010810-Pg3.jpg

ACR

Boyz_Mum
05-18-2010, 11:13 AM
While we were on lock down DDM had this court appearance

Most of you might have seen it but I thought I would post to keep others updated

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/deedee-moore-plea-051010

Thanks for posting. I hadn't seen this article and haven't been googling the case too often lately.

The last line of the article says "no other arrests have been made"... I wonder if LE will ever be able to tie others to the murder and what looks like fraud, IMO.

RIP Abraham. We're all still praying that justice will be served.

ACandyRose
05-18-2010, 08:40 PM
PUBLIC RECORDS INFORMATION SOURCE:

- Florida Department of State, Division of Corporations (www.sunbiz.org)
- Hillsborough County Tax Collector for Florida Business Tax (www.hillstax.org)

The following are the five main corporations owned (past or present) between 2004 and 2010 by either Dorice "Dee Dee" Moore (aka Dorice Donegan) or Shar Anthony Krasniqi (aka Shar Anthony, Anthony Krasniqi) that were associated with either the 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810 address (once owned by Abraham Shakespeare) or the 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, Florida 33566, the address according to the Probable Cause Affdavit of 02/19/2010 where Abraham Shakespeare was killed.

ALL of the information below is PUBLIC RECORDS INFORMATION for documentation purposes. ALL names and addresses listed are part of these PUBLIC RECORDS

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1) American Medical Professionals LLC - Document Number L04000091594

12/20/2004: Corporation created by DeeDee Moore, 3447 South Forbes Rd, Dover, FL, 33587
12/20/2004: Florida Limited Liability Company, (Purpose: Nursing Agency)

03/26/2007: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change From: 3447 South Forbes Rd, Dover, FL 33587
03/26/2007: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change To: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL 33566
03/26/2007: (ANNUAL REPORT): Mailing address: DeeDee Moore, P.O. Box 433, Sydney, FL 33587

10/14/2009: (REINSTATEMENT): Address Change From: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL 33566
10/14/2009: (REINSTATEMENT): Address Change To: 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810
10/14/2009: (REINSTATEMENT): Mailing Address: DeeDee Moore, 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810

12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Agent Changed From: DeeDee Moore, 9340 Redhawk Bend, Lakeland, FL 33810
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Agent Changed To: Debbie Munguia, 1354 W Rights Creek Rd, Bonifay, FL 32425
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Change From: DeeDee Moore (Mgr), 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Change To: Debbie Munguia (Owner), 1354 W Rights Creek, Bonifay, FL 32425
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Mailing Address Change To: 1354 W Rights Creek Rd, Bonifay, FL 32425

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2) A Stat And Supplies LLC - Document Number L07000093418

09/13/2007: Corporation created by Anthony Krasniqi, 909 20th St, Port St.Joe, FL 32456
09/13/2007: Florida Limited Liability Company (Purpose: Staffing Supplies)

10/15/2008: (REINSTATEMENT): Address Change To: 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566

10/16/2009: Business License Registered as "Retail Sales" Year 2010 Folio 226572
10/16/2009: Business License Address: 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566

(SIDE NOTE): Dealer listed with: www.cruzincooler.com
A-Stat & Supplies, DeeDee Moore, 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566, (813) 478-4444, drdeedeemoore@aol.com

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3) American Medical Professionals PEO Inc. - Document Number P07000125713

11/21/2007: Corporation created by Shar Anthony, 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566
11/21/2007: Florida Profit Corporation (Purpose: Nursing Agency)
11/21/2007: President: Shar Anthony, 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566
11/21/2007: Chairman: D Moore, 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566

07/11/2008: (ANNUAL REPORT): Registered Agent: Shar Anthony
07/11/2008: (ANNUAL REPORT): Business Address: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566

07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change From: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566
07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change To: 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810
07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): President: Shar Anthony, 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL. 33810
07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Chairman: D Moore, 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL. 33810

01/27/2010: (CHANGE): Shar Anthony REMOVED as President, New President: Dee Dee Moore

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4) Abraham Shakespeare LLC - Document Number L09000013100

01/12/2009: Business License registered as a "Collection Agency" Year 2009 Folio 216082
01/12/2009: Business License Address: 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566

02/09/2009: Corporation created by D Moore, 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566
02/09/2009: Florida Limited Liability Company (Purpose: Any and All Lawfull Business)

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5) American Service Professional LLC - Document Number L09000068806

07/17/2009: Corporation created by Dorice Donegan, 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566
07/17/2009: Florida Limited Liability Company (Purpose: Any and All Lawfull Business)

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ACR

JLMcKenna83
05-19-2010, 04:34 PM
While we were on lock down DDM had this court appearance

Most of you might have seen it but I thought I would post to keep others updated

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/deedee-moore-plea-051010

Why would she have to appear in court and enter a plea, when she already plead not guilty in March?? Is it because of the change of counsel?

from the article...

Dee Dee Moore was expected to appear before a judge in downtown Tampa and enter a plea, but her new representation, a court-appointed special counsel, waived the appearance.
.........

Moore was arrested soon after. She entered a not guilty plea in court in March.

Coldpizza
05-20-2010, 07:44 PM
I'm not sure and I'm certainly not a legal beagle. My only guess is she appeared for the charge of murder and the second is for wire tapping?
Anyone?

AZlawyer
05-21-2010, 12:04 PM
Why would she have to appear in court and enter a plea, when she already plead not guilty in March?? Is it because of the change of counsel?

from the article...


I'm not sure and I'm certainly not a legal beagle. My only guess is she appeared for the charge of murder and the second is for wire tapping?
Anyone?

I don't see why a change of counsel would necessitate a redo of the plea. If there were two separate charges, though, that would explain it.

ACandyRose
05-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Updated Court Docket for Troy McKay Young

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http://www.polkcountyclerk.net/

CASE NUMBER FILE DATE CASE TYPE STATUS
532010CF0003940000XX
[236557] 01/19/2010 CF CASE OPEN
CHARGE SEQ# STATUTE STATUTE TEXT DATE PHASE
001 838016 UNLAW COMPENSATION REWARD OFFICIAL BEHAVIOR 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed
002 83926 MISUSE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed

[DEF=YOUNG TROY MCKAY ATTORNEY=DOMINECK JAMES JR STATE ATTORNEY=WALLACE PAUL RICHARD PLAINTIFF=STATE OF FLORIDA ]
[JUDGE=STARGEL, JOHN K]
LAST DOCKET DATE=02/16/2010
[Court Events | Finance Info | Docket Info]

ACTION DATE TEXT
05/20/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 7/6/2010
05/20/2010 Re: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE BY LAURVANL
05/19/2010 MEMO OF COURT (SNAPOUT) 5/18/10
05/19/2010 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH ORDER
04/21/2010 STATUS CONFERENCE MEMO 4/16/2010
03/02/2010 SAO RESP / DEM FOR RECIP DISC & RESP NOTICE DISC / WIT LIST
03/02/2010 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBITS
02/16/2010 DELETE HEARING FOR THE DATE: 3/2/2010 WPNG
02/16/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 4/16/2010
02/16/2010 Reason: STAT--STATUS CONFERENCE
02/16/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 5/18/2010
02/16/2010 Reason: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE
02/16/2010 COURT NOTIFICATION
02/15/2010 CORRESPONDENCE COMMISSION ON ETHICS LETTER TO RETIREMENT SERVICES (COP
02/15/2010 INFORMATION FILED COPY SENT J. DOMINECK
02/05/2010 LETTER TO ETHICS COMMISSION
02/01/2010 DEMAND/NOTICE FOR DISCOVERY FILED
02/01/2010 NOTICE APPEARANCE OF COUNSEL / WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT / WPNG / REQUEST
02/01/2010 DEMAND DISCLOSURE MATERIAL FAVORABLE TO DEFT
02/01/2010 COVER SHEET
01/28/2010 COURT NOTIFICATION
01/28/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 3/2/2010
01/28/2010 Reason: ARRG--ARRAIGNMENT
01/26/2010 BOOKING SHEET
01/26/2010 WARRANT SERVED
01/26/2010 BOND REED
01/26/2010 BOND REED
01/26/2010 NOTICE TO APPEAR
01/20/2010 ASA of Record, WALLACE PAUL RICHARD
01/19/2010 COMPLAINT AFFIDAVIT FILED
01/19/2010 WARRANT ISSUED

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ACR

ACandyRose
05-21-2010, 11:19 PM
Creditor Notice against Abraham Shakespeare Estate

Thanks to Susan1 for finding this publication. :-)

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af65/acr-research/shakespeare/868-CreditorNotice03062010.jpg

ACR

lashekshakespearneph
05-22-2010, 08:40 AM
Great post guys?

Susan1
05-22-2010, 12:22 PM
The publication was the Polk County Register, a paper I've never heard of and I would not have seen the publication has I not been to the Courthouse and found it there. So, if anyone feels they have a claim against Abraham's estate, it would appear they have until 6/6/10 to file it.
At present, the respresentative of the estate is Christine Miller, who is a guardian for the interests of Abraham's child, Moses. The attorney is Stephen Miller, Esq. I am unsure of how many children Abraham had, but I know there was at least one other child other than Moses and I hope that mother is aware that she should file a claim to the estate as it appeared that Christine Miller is only the guardian for Moses. Hopefully one of the family members can make her aware before June 6, 2010 so she can file.
They set up a Deposition for Howard Stitzel to determine what assets were transferred, but Howard Stitzel did not appear at the appointed time of the Deposition according to papers filed in the estate case.
If you are having problems reading the lawyer's contact information from the newspaper copy, it is:
Stephen Martin
200 Lake Morton Drive, 2nd Floor
Lakeland, FL 33801
Mailing address: PO Box 2765, Lakeland, FL 33806
Local phone: 863-683-8765
Toll free: 866-232-3651
He is trying to determine what assets Abraham had and how the assets got transferred and to whom they were transferred. There is real property that was transferred, like the house on Redhawk, and the assignment of loans, but there was also other items that belonged to Abraham that he will need to track down, like the cars and appliances and any of Abraham's money that was taken from him, who got it and where is it now. It is too bad he isn't on with us here because he shares a common purpose that we all share, to see Abraham's assets returned to his family.

Susan1
05-22-2010, 12:36 PM
Robert Earl Brown, Jr. stated he was Abraham's 1/2 brother in a newspaper article. He also was listed as a stepson in Abraham's father's obituary. We have had Abraham's family members tell us that is not true. I have now found a case where a process server was attempting to serve Robert E Brown, Jr but could not find him so they talked to his mother, Mrs. Tillman. I wanted to know if this name, Mrs. Tillman, is familiar to any of the locals here or anyone who knows Robert Brown. I am trying to find her first name and the city she resides in.

wanttohelp
05-23-2010, 04:00 AM
the newspaper thing is required by law. you have to post in the paper to see if there are any creditors against the person who died before any inheritance is given out.

Susan1
05-23-2010, 04:04 AM
Wouldn't you think they would have picked a paper with more coverage? I'd never even heard of the paper before.

Susan1
05-23-2010, 04:05 AM
Abraham's estate attorney summoned Howard Stitzel to a deposition to determine what assets were turned over and to whom. Howard Stitzel did not show up to the Deposition.

Susan1
05-23-2010, 04:21 AM
I don't see why a change of counsel would necessitate a redo of the plea. If there were two separate charges, though, that would explain it.

There are two separate charges, the wiretapping and the murder charge.

Coldpizza
05-26-2010, 07:28 PM
This is an old article, sorry if some of you have seen it before but it might help those that are new to the case. Interesting take before DDM was arrested.


Body Of Missing Lottery Winner Found


Winning $30 million in the Florida Lottery should have been the best thing that ever happened to Abraham Shakespeare.

But with his newfound wealth came a string of bad choices and hangers-on who constantly hit him up for money. Nine months ago, he vanished. Friends and family hoped he was on a beach somewhere in the Caribbean.

On Friday, detectives confirmed that a body buried under a concrete slab in a rural backyard was his.

http://blackpoliticalbuzz.blogspot.com/2010/01/abraham-shakespeare-florida-lottery.html

lashekshakespearneph
05-31-2010, 03:12 PM
:waitasec:that is old news just like this claim :http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18551

ACandyRose
06-06-2010, 04:13 AM
Public Records now available to download at the Hillsborough County Clerk's office on case against Dee Dee Moore:

http://www.hillsclerk.com/PublicWeb/HighProfileCases.aspx?id=347

Here's the list up so far. You might want to bookmark the link above to watch for future public documents available through the Hillsborough County Clerk's office.

Filing Date Description PDF
05/11/2010 Notice of Hearing - Disposition Set & Notice Sent
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #5
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #4
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #3
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #2
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #1
04/01/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant
03/26/2010 Order Appointing the Office of Criminal Conflict and Civil Regional Counsel
03/17/2010 Indictment Capias Returned Executed
03/17/2010 Notice of Appearance Pursuant to FLA. R. CRIM.P.3.112
03/16/2010 Notice of Hearing
03/15/2010 Application for Criminal Indigent Status
03/15/2010 Arrest Warrant Returned Served Criminal Report Affidavit
03/15/2010 Defendant's Motion to Withdraw and Appoint the Office of Criminal Conflict and Civil Regional Counsel
03/12/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant
03/11/2010 Indictment Capias Issued
03/11/2010 Indictment for Murder in the First Degree (Premeditated)
02/26/2010 Notice of Defendant's Invocation of Constitutional Rights
02/25/2010 Letter to Chief Judge Menendez
02/22/2010 Application for Criminal Indigent Status
02/22/2010 Criminal Report Affidavit/Notice Appear
02/11/2010 Notice of Defendant's Invocation of Constitutional Rights
02/03/2010 Application for Criminal Indigent Status
02/03/2010 Criminal Report Affidavit/Notice Appear
02/03/2010 ROR/Bond Reduction/Special Request Info Sheet

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ACR

tigergal71
06-06-2010, 04:47 PM
DRIVEBY, Saturday June 5.

We drove by the two homes on Hwy 60 yesterday. Yards need mowing, no activity at tan house (white Caddy still parked outside)
Red brick house, 1 car outside, think shape of a Dodge Neon, basically, but I think it was a Toyota or a Kia. Is there such a thing as a Echo?? For some reason, that's what I keep going back to.

Also, on the front porch there was a lady rocking in a chair or swing. She was blondish hair and a bit on the heavy side. Just rocking. Also, the property now has a realtor sign out front. I find it strange they could sell it before the investigation is over. I wonder if the realtors (Coldwell Banker) will disclose that a murder took place in that house???

http://www.floridamoves.com/Property/propertydetails.aspx?SearchID=14007818&PropertyGUID=2CF6F23C-0324-44F9-AFF5-750DB0C67C84&RowNum=14

Susan1
06-13-2010, 09:14 PM
http://www.theledger.com/article/20100613/NEWS/6135044/1338
New article on Abraham's estate.

JLMcKenna83
06-14-2010, 05:55 PM
Merissa Green really is a great journalist who always writes excellent articles when it comes to Abraham. Yet another nice, informative article...

overwhelmed
06-15-2010, 10:39 AM
Spoke with DDM on sunday and she is having someone come and collect ALL her things left here at 5732.I know a lot of them will be going to the redhawk house according to her.Either way i will be happy that i will no longer have them and i will not have to worry about who it belongs to anymore..Not real sure what they will do with this Semi that was a repo of AS but it will be going as well.And it will clear up some things that the family heard.So all in all it will be a great day when they come get her stuff..I was also Told Not by DDM that The keys to the Two Story was turned over to The Detective Week before last Another great thing..

Susan1
06-15-2010, 07:11 PM
This might be a handy link then:
http://tinyurl.com/25qxp7j

overwhelmed
06-15-2010, 08:02 PM
Thank you susan but My son is bringing My things in a week so i wont be in need of one.But thanks for your concern.Had i known that the washer or dryer could of belonged to AS i would of never used it..You seem to of forgotten i am not the one who took them from AS. yes i was told to use them but had i known who they REALLY belonged to i would of rather of washed my clothes the old fashion way.Believe me the day ALL her things are back in Lakeland will be a happy one for me i only used her things left here until i was able to get MY OWN things here.And i made those arrangements Over the weekend while i was At my sons.It worked out great that she called Sunday and said she had a Collection agency coming to get her things.I have never layed claim to anything in this house belonging to DDM i was told to use certain things until mine got here.And in a week That will no longer be the issue.Because what will be in this house will belong to noone but myself...

GranGran4
06-16-2010, 01:30 AM
Just to making things more pleasing for you DebM, I will let you know that your son was here today and has parked a trailer to load this weekend weather permitting. It should be at 5732 by Tuesday the latest.......Oh Happy Day!!!
I'm sure that the rumors and lies WILL stop then for there is nothing left to gossip about.

Susan1
06-16-2010, 06:29 AM
I'm getting a list of things we have discovered together that belonged to Abraham to present to the Lakeland attorney, Stephen Martin, in charge of Abraham's estate who is trying to recover his property. He has already subpoenaed Howard Stitzel who didn't bother to show up, but there are other belongings of Abraham's that we have uncovered throughout these threads that I am not sure that he is aware of. This is something I think that we can do to be very helpful to Abraham's family, share what we have learned with this lawyer so he can recoup Abraham's property and give it back to the rightful owners, Abraham's children. I have printed out ALL the threads as we went along so I will also let him have access to those. I learned early on with these threads to print as we go along page by page. I'd read something and then a day or two later it would be gone, so I learned to print daily. I'm going to try to condense it into just his belongings that were taken from him and not returned because all these threads do finally end up as that book on Abraham that Dorice kept saying she was going to write and it would be hard for him to try to wade through it all. The criminal affidavit gives up some of the information about where the money went, but there was more that even they did not cover. I'm looking forward to the discovery so we can see the actual trail of exactly what accounts that money went into.
I think it is a real crime that so much of his stuff is out there and people aren't doing the right thing and giving it back to the estate or paying the estate, especially now that it is clear who has control of that estate from the article. I wonder if any of the people who have taken loans from Abraham have bothered to pay the estate on those loans. I know that Dorice's mother has given back jewelry and cash and I know that Shar gave back the car so I guess there are some people who have made that move in the right direction. If Shar turned over the keys to the tan house, I'd have to ask who he turned them over to. I'm guessing to the police. I would have to wonder if anyone turned over the garage door opener which could also be used to gain access to the house. What he would really need to do is to turn over the house itself with a quit claim deed to the estate since it appears the money used to purchase that house was most likely Abraham's, like most everything else Dorice bought during those few months she was stealing from him.
Thanks to ACR because your site is helping make it easier for me to compile the list. You have done such a good job on it that it really does condense all these pages into a nice packet and gives me pictures to bring home the point. I hope that is okay with you that I will be giving him your website address for the Abraham case.

overwhelmed
06-16-2010, 10:43 AM
And i as well have wrote a list for her to sign when she gets here so that when it all comes out i have as much proof as i need to show that i kept nothing...I have my own things I do not need someone elses..I thank her and the family for allowing me to use these things while waiting to bring my things here..

ACandyRose
06-16-2010, 12:25 PM
Susan1,

My website is set up for public access. Keep in mind that some hyperlinks I've used for reference links within the body of each web page on the site, such as news media reference links, etc., may not show on a printed copy of pages. So you may also want to give him the main URL to my site for Abraham page's also. Sorry I'm a tad behind on updating the site as I have several other high profile cases I'm working on also.

That's a shame that Howard Stitzel didn't show up. Not counting the moral issue but one would have thought as a public servant that he would have attempted to offer as much help as he could for the sake of Abraham's two children.

Regarding the estate attorney, could you be so kind as to ask for an update on how Abraham's two boys are doing?

ACR

Susan1
06-16-2010, 06:58 PM
Sure thing, ACR. We'll see if we can't help get some of the money and property back to those children.

Coldpizza
06-17-2010, 06:40 AM
Finding Shakespeare's money
Updated: Wednesday, 16 Jun 2010, 9:44 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 16 Jun 2010, 9:44 PM EDT

LAKELAND - A team of experts is trying to find out what is left of the estate of murdered Polk County millionaire Abraham Shakespeare.

They are working on behalf of Shakespeare's sole heirs, his two young sons. One is eight, the other, two years old.



http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/finding-shakespeares-money-06162010

JLMcKenna83
06-17-2010, 03:26 PM
How can DDM have things sent to the Redhawk house? It's not hers!

tigergal71
06-17-2010, 05:47 PM
Finding Shakespeare's money
Updated: Wednesday, 16 Jun 2010, 9:44 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 16 Jun 2010, 9:44 PM EDT

LAKELAND - A team of experts is trying to find out what is left of the estate of murdered Polk County millionaire Abraham Shakespeare.

They are working on behalf of Shakespeare's sole heirs, his two young sons. One is eight, the other, two years old.



http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/finding-shakespeares-money-06162010

One of you who are very well versed in the properties and everything that is rightfully AS's, needs to make contact with the guardian and the attorney. Just as a second check type thing so they don't miss anything. It's a very tangled web, and I know your help would be greatly appreciated.
As well as the list of things in the red house!! And I guess since the article says the truck and the Corvette, that they know nothing about the white caddy at the tan house!!! Yes, I am encouraging one of you to make contact with them so you can help piece together the whole picture. Thats the only way they're going to 'find' everything that is rightfully the kids'.

overwhelmed
06-17-2010, 06:32 PM
I called his office and left a message.And as for what JL McKenna said all i know is what DDM told me she said that This collection agency was gonna take everything to the RedHawk house.I Have info for this Attorney he may or may not already know.I have also called the Detective regarding things i was told {not by DDM} I am waiting for his reply he said he would call me back he had another Homicide accure yesterday morning and he was working that.

Susan1
06-17-2010, 07:31 PM
I'll be paying a visit to the attorney with a care package from all the websleuths poster's efforts and I will let him know it comes from ya'll.
From the article:
"They are also going after two vehicles that Moore bought with Shakespeare's money. Moore bought a truck for herself, and a Corvette for her boyfriend."
As stated above, there is a semi at the red house that was AS. And yes, Tigergal, there is the white caddy sitting there waiting for a new owner. You are correct, there is the stuff that was in the red house that came from the Red Hawk address. I'll be spending time getting together the rest of the documents. As I say, I have ALL of the Websleuth pages whether they are still online or removed...Jesus isn't the only one who saves. I have the criminal affidavit. I've printed out all the deeds.
Overwhelmed, I'm glad to see you are helping out on returning Abraham's property to his estate. Maybe you can come up with more ideas. I understand there was a lot of yard equipment.
Perhaps you can help RJ get his things back as well. I understand there are some large games and some ATV things and other belongings that he had left behind. I feel so bad for RJ because he had no idea this was going to be coming down and had no reason to know he would have to get his things moved. He has been through a very hard time.
Since you are probably the closest to this matter, can you think of anything else that belonged directly to Abraham that are now in the murder scene home or things that were bought with his money that could be returned to the estate?
I think this is just great that all of us are working together to do the right thing again.

overwhelmed
06-17-2010, 08:31 PM
Yes the ATV things are still here in the Garage. They were in the shed that DDM gave to the Lands.I called RJ and told him his mother wanted him to have those things and I was told he did not want them but they are here for him regardless as to what was said about me EVERYTHING is still here besides a bush hog and the trimmer NOTHING has been stolen nor sold and i have told RJ he could come here at any time and see for his self what was here and as for what was taken from the two story was ONLY the sofa that was up stairs and it did not belong to AS it was the lawyers and he gave it to DDM..The lawn stuff is still here as well If i was aloud to stop this lady from taking this stuff i would but i was told by the Detective if it belongs to DD and she says do what ever with it as long as it did not belong to AS or was bought with his money do as she says so i will tell this ATT. what is here what i believe or was told was bought with AS money and let him deal with it the legal way.I know the Paint ball stuff is said to be bought with his money and there is 45.000 of the money when he calls me hopefully tomorrow i will tell him what i know.

Susan1
06-17-2010, 08:36 PM
Thanks, Overwhelmed. You are perhaps one of the best resources for knowing what is left of Abraham's, the stuff that wasn't recorded, especially since you still have that connection with Dorice. And that is really nice you are giving RJ a chance to get his stuff back as well. I'm sure he will appreciate that.

Susan1
06-17-2010, 09:57 PM
Spoke with DDM on sunday and she is having someone come and collect ALL her things left here at 5732.I know a lot of them will be going to the redhawk house according to her.Either way i will be happy that i will no longer have them and i will not have to worry about who it belongs to anymore..Not real sure what they will do with this Semi that was a repo of AS but it will be going as well.And it will clear up some things that the family heard.So all in all it will be a great day when they come get her stuff..I was also Told Not by DDM that The keys to the Two Story was turned over to The Detective Week before last Another great thing..




Thank you susan but My son is bringing My things in a week so i wont be in need of one.But thanks for your concern.Had i known that the washer or dryer could of belonged to AS i would of never used it..You seem to of forgotten i am not the one who took them from AS. yes i was told to use them but had i known who they REALLY belonged to i would of rather of washed my clothes the old fashion way.Believe me the day ALL her things are back in Lakeland will be a happy one for me i only used her things left here until i was able to get MY OWN things here.And i made those arrangements Over the weekend while i was At my sons.It worked out great that she called Sunday and said she had a Collection agency coming to get her things.I have never layed claim to anything in this house belonging to DDM i was told to use certain things until mine got here.And in a week That will no longer be the issue.Because what will be in this house will belong to noone but myself...


And i as well have wrote a list for her to sign when she gets here so that when it all comes out i have as much proof as i need to show that i kept nothing...I have my own things I do not need someone elses..I thank her and the family for allowing me to use these things while waiting to bring my things here..


I called his office and left a message.And as for what JL McKenna said all i know is what DDM told me she said that This collection agency was gonna take everything to the RedHawk house.I Have info for this Attorney he may or may not already know.I have also called the Detective regarding things i was told {not by DDM} I am waiting for his reply he said he would call me back he had another Homicide accure yesterday morning and he was working that.


Yes the ATV things are still here in the Garage. They were in the shed that DDM gave to the Lands.I called RJ and told him his mother wanted him to have those things and I was told he did not want them but they are here for him regardless as to what was said about me EVERYTHING is still here besides a bush hog and the trimmer NOTHING has been stolen nor sold and i have told RJ he could come here at any time and see for his self what was here and as for what was taken from the two story was ONLY the sofa that was up stairs and it did not belong to AS it was the lawyers and he gave it to DDM..The lawn stuff is still here as well If i was aloud to stop this lady from taking this stuff i would but i was told by the Detective if it belongs to DD and she says do what ever with it as long as it did not belong to AS or was bought with his money do as she says so i will tell this ATT. what is here what i believe or was told was bought with AS money and let him deal with it the legal way.I know the Paint ball stuff is said to be bought with his money and there is 45.000 of the money when he calls me hopefully tomorrow i will tell him what i know.

I just had a question about this. Is that $45 or $45000 because there is a big difference between the 45 and 450000. I know that I read that she had supposedly given some to her mother, to Howard Stitzel, to Shar, to her company's payroll. As I understood it, the Paint Ball stuff was all taken down and gone. Is that true? Did it go off with Shar or is it still on the property? That must have cost a pretty penny.

Susan1
06-17-2010, 09:59 PM
Now how did I do that? The correct quote would be the last one.

Rizzy
06-17-2010, 10:44 PM
http://www.theledger.com/article/20100617/NEWS/6175067/1002/SPORTS?Title=Folder-May-Shed-Light-On-Shakespeare-Dealings

SLAIN LOTTERY WINNER
Folder May Shed Light On Shakespeare Dealings

By Merissa Green
THE LEDGER


Published: Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 9:48 p.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, June 17, 2010 at 9:48 p.m.
( page all of 4 )

LAKELAND | A leather folder may hold the key to the cash and assets taken from slain Lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare and what may be owed to his estate.

Hillsborough County Sheriff's Detective Preston Hollis got the folder Jan. 31 from Linda Donegan of Plant City, the mother of Dorice "DeeDee" Moore. Moore was arrested Feb. 2 and charged by HCSO with Shakespeare's murder.

In response to a search warrant, Donegan handed Hollis currency, jewelry and the leather folder holding financial documents, according to an affidavit used to obtain the search warrant and that recently has become public. The leather folder was left in her care in case Moore was arrested, Donegan told investigators.

Donegan could not be reached for comment on this story.

"Based on the investigation conducted to this point, investigators have reason to believe that a search of the brown leather folder will produce records pertaining to the financial relationships and financial transactions among Abraham Shakespeare, DeeDee Moore, American Medical Professionals LLC, which is Ms. Moore's business, her (former) boyfriend, Shar Krasniqi, Shakespeare and Associates LLC, Abraham Shakespeare LLC, and David Howard Stitzel," stated the affidavit filed in Hillsborough County Court in April.

The Hillsborough Sheriff's Office and the State Attorney's Office in Tampa would not comment on how much money has been turned over.

Lakeland lawyer Stephen Martin recently announced he is trying to obtain assets Moore or her companies held or bought, including a Corvette and a Silverado pickup being held by the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.

Martin represents Shakespeare's two young sons.

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There is much more at the link above.

JLMcKenna83
06-17-2010, 11:04 PM
Wouldn't everything DDM bought since at least last April (if not before) be suspected as being Abraham's?

BTW... I'm glad someone is a voice for his children... DDM has ruined many many lives in her path, and it's nice to see someone trying to do right by them.

Susan1
06-17-2010, 11:30 PM
I really love Merissa Green's articles. From the beginning she has been the lead writer on this case and scooped everyone with that interview she had with Dorice before she was named a POI. I look forward to everything she writes. It is her paper that requested this case be named a high profile case and the documents be put on the internet. I think she would have been every bit as good an investigator for the police as she is an investigative writer for the Ledger, a New York Times paper. I'm looking forward to seeing if she will handle the trial coverage.

overwhelmed
06-17-2010, 11:43 PM
From what i am told the netting cost 15.000 and the grass alone was 30.000 not to mention all the paint ball guns and the paint balls, masks ect...My daughter and i tore some of it down but it is still in the field behind the house..Some of the things were taken to the tan house but the big money stuff lay in the field.I do know that the Realtor and owner got a lawyer and she has 30 days to remove the Semi and Paint ball field short of rolling up the grass and taking down the pipes it has all been tore down.There is a big roll of the grass in the peach looking building in the field between the two houses.I do also know that there was a Guy interested in buying the Property Here on Wed.He spoke to the Realtor so i know the grass needs to be removed from that building..I plan on telling Mr Martin when he returns my call about that maybe he can get with the lawyer the owner has and maybe get the things before her collection agency does.I was told a judge locked the redhawk house but DD told me sunday the Detective did .who knows i only know what i am told.

overwhelmed
06-17-2010, 11:51 PM
I also have spoke with the payroll company and I am being told that they are a payroll company and DD never gave them money they do the billing and recieve moneys from the hospitals and nursing homes they payed her what was due not her pay them they collect their fee from what they collect.So the papers have that wrong..She put AS money in her company account and used her company account as her main bank account The day before they found his body she went to the bank and took out all money but 700.00 so she said {ddm}how true that is i was only told..But the payroll company never recieved money from DDM.

Susan1
06-18-2010, 12:05 AM
From what i am told the netting cost 15.000 and the grass alone was 30.000 not to mention all the paint ball guns and the paint balls, masks ect...My daughter and i tore some of it down but it is still in the field behind the house..Some of the things were taken to the tan house but the big money stuff lay in the field.I do know that the Realtor and owner got a lawyer and she has 30 days to remove the Semi and Paint ball field short of rolling up the grass and taking down the pipes it has all been tore down.There is a big roll of the grass in the peach looking building in the field between the two houses.I do also know that there was a Guy interested in buying the Property Here on Wed.He spoke to the Realtor so i know the grass needs to be removed from that building..I plan on telling Mr Martin when he returns my call about that maybe he can get with the lawyer the owner has and maybe get the things before her collection agency does.I was told a judge locked the redhawk house but DD told me sunday the Detective did .who knows i only know what i am told.

Maybe the lawyer can arrange to get the Semi and have it sold since you say that was one of Abraham's repo's.
That was a lot of money for a paintball field that never gets used.
That is surprising someone wants to buy the property at that price. I thought it was pretty high for the house but I am assuming the price is either because it is commericial or there is a lot of land with it.

Susan1
06-18-2010, 12:12 AM
I also have spoke with the payroll company and I am being told that they are a payroll company and DD never gave them money they do the billing and recieve moneys from the hospitals and nursing homes they payed her what was due not her pay them they collect their fee from what they collect.So the papers have that wrong..She put AS money in her company account and used her company account as her main bank account The day before they found his body she went to the bank and took out all money but 700.00 so she said {ddm}how true that is i was only told..But the payroll company never recieved money from DDM.

It wasn't in the paper. It was in the criminal affidavit. Look at the page that says 3 on the bottom, which is actually the first typed page:

"In December of 2008, Mr. Shakespeare liquidated an annuities account worth approximately $250K. In January 2009, this money was transferred to the business account ofAmerican Medical Professionals, a business owned by Dee Dee Moore since 2004. In her interviews, Ms. Moore stated this money was provided to her for the purposes ofpaying taxes on behalfofShakespeare. This money was tracked to several recipients including Ms. Moore's boyfriend, Shar Krasniqi, and Real Time Services, American Medical Professionals' payroll and accounting service. Additionally, a review o fbank statements ofAmerican Medical Professionals and accounts related to Dee Dee Moore has shown that Moore utilized the American Medical Professionals checking account as her primary account including personal charges. Any personal accounts of Dee Dee Moore that have been located have minimal activity. The investigation has not revealed any records ofthese funds having been used to pay any tax debt of Abraham Shakespeare."

This is from the Sheriff's Department who had the records and traced the money. If you need to read the actual document, ACR has it over on her site, I believe. It was on here somewhere, but I would not be able to find it easily. At one point there was a separate site for Financial Records and Documents for Abraham here but I can't find it now.

Susan1
06-18-2010, 12:32 AM
I have another question. What is this very odd relationship she has with the Land family? She buried Abraham's body on their property before she ever purchased the property. Check the records. If he was killed and buried in early April, according to county records, she didn't own the property until late April.
The other thing is ever since I first heard of them it was on an odd note. One of the Land's said that Dorice had told him there was a body buried there. I thought he would end up being the informant, but he wasn't. I really wish he had said when she told him there was a body buried there and if it was much earlier, why he didn't go to the police. On that one, I think the reporter really dropped the Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How ball. That reporter should have been all over that comment.
And the Lands sold the house to her and then stay in her life, buying things from her. Did the Land's also buy the bushwhacker thing from you? I've sold houses to people, but then that's it, last time I see them.

Susan1
06-18-2010, 12:41 AM
Now if this person who is interested in buying the property actually does buy it, is he buying it for a home or business for himself or is he going to let you continue to rent it out? It would seem a waste of money to get your son to move all your stuff down here just to have to have him come back and move it all out if it sells soon to someone who is buying it for their home or for their place of buisness.

wanttohelp
06-18-2010, 01:53 AM
Just to making things more pleasing for you DebM, I will let you know that your son was here today and has parked a trailer to load this weekend weather permitting. It should be at 5732 by Tuesday the latest.......Oh Happy Day!!!
I'm sure that the rumors and lies WILL stop then for there is nothing left to gossip about.

i think most can agree, when wanting to avoid gossip, its best to not do business under a company involved in the murder investigation and best to not move in a house someone was buried out back.

GranGran4
06-18-2010, 10:24 AM
i think most can agree, when wanting to avoid gossip, its best to not do business under a company involved in the murder investigation and best to not move in a house someone was buried out back.

Sorry to disagree with you, but if a person had worked for years and ran a company that the owner no longer was interested in and really didn't won't and was told that it was being turned over and at the time didn't know a murder had occurred then yes I suppose most people would do it. That doesn't make that person bad and to be treated like a murderer.
The other point to be made is that DebM isn't living in the house were the body was buried, that was the house next door.

overwhelmed
06-18-2010, 10:39 AM
Ok just spoke with Mr Martins Office He is on his way to Bartow and They are having Mrs Miller call me.I was also told not to let anyone come in here and Take nothing so again i am made keeper of DDM's Things which if it goes to the kids i am happy to do.I will let ya all know what i find out after she calls me.To answer your question about the Lands.I really do not know what is really going on there I do know that one of the Land Boys told me that the police spoke with them in November and asked them to stick close to her {DDM} so i guess that is why .I can not say for sure.They are the ones who bought everything that was ever sold from here and they got it at a very cheap price.Which i know that RJ is young and was just trying to get through all this it is a hard thing to go thru at his age and dealing with what his mother is accused of.I do pray he will be ok with this in the long run. Now to answer your other question My son is bringing my things and at this time i have decided to stay in this area when the lease is up i plan on moving from this house But i have another legal matter i am trying to get done.I have someone who is going out of their way to make me look bad and i am dealing with that as well i have found out ALOT about this person and i can say i have picked up some investigating skills from you all so thank you for that...Public records is a wonderful tool...

Susan1
06-18-2010, 12:14 PM
Ok just spoke with Mr Martins Office He is on his way to Bartow and They are having Mrs Miller call me.I was also told not to let anyone come in here and Take nothing so again i am made keeper of DDM's Things which if it goes to the kids i am happy to do.I will let ya all know what i find out after she calls me.To answer your question about the Lands.I really do not know what is really going on there I do know that one of the Land Boys told me that the police spoke with them in November and asked them to stick close to her {DDM} so i guess that is why .I can not say for sure.They are the ones who bought everything that was ever sold from here and they got it at a very cheap price.Which i know that RJ is young and was just trying to get through all this it is a hard thing to go thru at his age and dealing with what his mother is accused of.I do pray he will be ok with this in the long run. Now to answer your other question My son is bringing my things and at this time i have decided to stay in this area when the lease is up i plan on moving from this house But i have another legal matter i am trying to get done.I have someone who is going out of their way to make me look bad and i am dealing with that as well i have found out ALOT about this person and i can say i have picked up some investigating skills from you all so thank you for that...Public records is a wonderful tool...
Thanks for the info on the Lands. That would make sense if the police told them to help them get info and that was what I had actually suspected when he said that, but then they gave the name of that other informant.
Did the police also tell you to stay close to Dorice? I know you are getting calls from her still from what you have said above and you have mentioned you are in contact with the detectives as well. Is she still in solitary?
I am sure the estate people really appreciate your coming forward and helping them. And you are right, it will be wonderful if the possessions that were purchased with Abraham's money could be given back to the children as well as the tan house next door.
I know you had earlier said that Shar's mom got that caddy next door from Dorice. Did she turn the keys for that car into the police as well? And when you said the keys to that house were turned over, did you mean to the Hillsborough police?
How did Abraham Repo a semi? That was one I must have missed along the way.
You are right about the searchers here. There are a lot of excellent researchers on this site and I, too, have learned a lot from them. They should have an sleuthers 101 on the site for tips. Maybe they do and I just haven't found it.

Susan1
06-18-2010, 12:30 PM
Sorry to disagree with you, but if a person had worked for years and ran a company that the owner no longer was interested in and really didn't won't and was told that it was being turned over and at the time didn't know a murder had occurred then yes I suppose most people would do it. That doesn't make that person bad and to be treated like a murderer.
The other point to be made is that DebM isn't living in the house were the body was buried, that was the house next door.

I saw that, too. You are right. She is not living in the house where the body was buried, that was the house next door. She is living in the house where he was murdered. That obviously does not appear to be her intention when she moved here since she moved here in January before the body was found and the article she gave to the paper clearly stated she was very upset when she found out about it.
Now you say that she worked for years and ran the company and I remember her saying the same thing. You say the owner was no longer interested in it and really didn't "want" it. The you say it was being turned over to her. I think I was under the false impression earlier that she purchased the company. So are you saying that Dorice just gave her that company because she didn't want it anymore?
I don't think anyone here is treating her like a murderer. I personally believed that she was up north at the time of the murder. I think it is a valid point that no matter who lives in that house for quite a while down the road, since this case has international media attention now, that they will be subjected to being a topic of conversation, especially if they are connected to the murderess by a company that the Criminal Affidavit states was used to funnel Abraham's money through. That is not me saying it, it is the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office who wrote that and they have never offered a retraction to my knowledge.
I believe the point that she was trying to make is that if you live in either of those houses or you are associated with that company in this case getting international media attention, then it will be a focus of communication concerning this case.
Just my opinion.

Susan1
06-19-2010, 01:56 PM
http://www.floridamoves.com/Property/propertydetails.aspx?SearchID=14183612&PropertyGUID=2CF6F23C-0324-44F9-AFF5-750DB0C67C84&RowNum=20
Don't know if this was previously posted or not but the murder scene house is now up for sale. They do not disclose it was the site of a murder that I can see online. I'm thinking it would be something they would have to disclose before sale. Various pictures of the house as well as pictures a semi. I believe this would be the semi we were discussing above? I believe it was said to be an AS Repo. My question would be who did he reposess it from? Did he repossess it or did Dorice repossess it? When was it repossessed? Why was it repossessed? Did Abraham hold the title on this vehicle? Was he a lien holder on it? I guess I had a lot of questions.

Susan1
06-19-2010, 07:31 PM
Don't know where everyone has gone, but I seem to be getting some of the answers from some of the other researchers and I thought I would see if the information is correct. I am assuming that the semi is the one that Dorice sent the text to Troy Martin on 9/9/09 at 7:26pm, "Thought I would give you the good news. Semi truck has been towed away" Reply from Young, "Great! Engine with it?" Sept. 9, 2009 at 9:16pm - "Yes, but a lot of parts missing..."
There is an additional text with a name and date of birth of a man but I am leaving that out and will let the papers publish all that if they want to. I don't know what it pertains to. It is not clear from the way it is set up in the document. I did a search of his name and he is connected to trucking companies. I would think the only way a vehicle can be repossessed is if you have a contract or a lien in writing.
So I am assuming this is the semi that was referred to above and that is in the driveway of the murder scene house. I am assuming it was Dorice who had it repossessed, not Abraham. Not quite sure how or why she did that. This is really the first I'd heard of a semi and Abraham. I know he was generous and loaned money to many people for many things, but I never saw anything in the county records on a semi. Maybe he just had a lien on the title through DMV or a private note, but I haven't seen it.

overwhelmed
06-19-2010, 07:45 PM
Good evening,I have my grand kids here till my son comes and we have been having some fun.Yes DD did repo the semi when exactly i am not sure.It is in parts..From what i have been told she repo'd it because it was part of the Property's she got from him.I am not sure tho..And you are correct the Place is up for sale when or if it sells in the lease they have to give me 60 days.My lease will be up in a few months so we will see.There is alot that i would like to share that would clear up alot of questions BUT i am still unsure on what i can and can not say.I was told that the Det.had said not to talk about the case he did not tell me that ,only that if it has not been made public do not talk about it.So i will wait until it either is made public by media or a phone call i had with her.

overwhelmed
06-19-2010, 07:47 PM
I'm sorry i forgot to post this..He loaned the man that had the semi the money for it he never paid on that loan so it was repo'd.Also from what i was told there is a resturant in Lakeland that was bought from his money as well as several houses and cars..Wonder who would know exactly who owes what?

Susan1
06-19-2010, 08:02 PM
Good evening,I have my grand kids here till my son comes and we have been having some fun.Yes DD did repo the semi when exactly i am not sure.It is in parts..From what i have been told she repo'd it because it was part of the Property's she got from him.I am not sure tho..And you are correct the Place is up for sale when or if it sells in the lease they have to give me 60 days.My lease will be up in a few months so we will see.There is alot that i would like to share that would clear up alot of questions BUT i am still unsure on what i can and can not say.I was told that the Det.had said not to talk about the case he did not tell me that ,only that if it has not been made public do not talk about it.So i will wait until it either is made public by media or a phone call i had with her.

It is a good thing they are giving you the 60 days. At the price they are asking, in this market, I'm not sure how quickly it will sell, though. It must be because of land or commericial it is so high? It's about as high as the Redhawk house and that has a pool.

Above you said that the detectives had told the Lands to stay close to her and learn what they could so I'm assuming they might have told you the same thing and you said you were talking to the detectives and you said you were talking to Dorice so it just seemed to me it might be the same situation. You are in a very unique position of probably being one of the few people outside of lawyers who are talking to her other than her family.

I've been trying to see how we can get those phone calls and visits released like they have in the Caylee Anthony case and that other case with the missing child up north Florida. They are suppose to be available to the public. Also, when they have discovery in July, all that stuff is suppose to open up to the public. We will see. Already you can get a lot of it right on the Hillsborough County Court website.

Susan1
06-19-2010, 08:06 PM
I'm sorry i forgot to post this..He loaned the man that had the semi the money for it he never paid on that loan so it was repo'd.Also from what i was told there is a resturant in Lakeland that was bought from his money as well as several houses and cars..Wonder who would know exactly who owes what?

I'm trying to find all the places his money went. Again when the discovery comes out, it may be easier to trace some of the unrecorded loans through the financial documents, but for now I've heard from several people of unrecorded loans that I'm passing along. The houses, we have a lot of those because a lot of those loans were recorded. I did not know about a restaurant. Do you have a name or a location? If you pass that info on to the lawyer he would appreciate it.
Too bad he didn't have an accountant. Using Dorice as a financial advisor was an absolute disaster.

JLMcKenna83
06-21-2010, 07:52 PM
I'm trying to find all the places his money went. Again when the discovery comes out, it may be easier to trace some of the unrecorded loans through the financial documents, but for now I've heard from several people of unrecorded loans that I'm passing along. The houses, we have a lot of those because a lot of those loans were recorded. I did not know about a restaurant. Do you have a name or a location? If you pass that info on to the lawyer he would appreciate it.
Too bad he didn't have an accountant. Using Dorice as a financial advisor was an absolute disaster.

bbm..

My vote for understatement of the year...

wanttohelp
06-23-2010, 01:24 AM
I am going to see where all the Abraham threads went but if you were here during them, I found this interesting...

"The city has considered other properties but this one had a clear title, said City Manager Dale Smith at Monday night's City Commission meeting." (http://www.newschief.com/article/20100618/NEWS/6185031/1021)

The property is owned by Pelt Enterprises LLC

Pelt Enterprises LLC:
03/29/2010 -- Reg. Agent Resignation Involves DanaYMoore
Last Event REINSTATEMENT
Event Date Filed 06/21/2010

article June 15, 2010 at 11:27 p.m.

I was wondering if politics were coming into play and thats why we havent see the arrest that there was CLEAR evidence for. Hopefully the writer so many of you praise will get the real story out because I'm starting to feel we are Abrahams only chance for justice!!

wanttohelp
06-23-2010, 07:56 PM
susan, no did i miss you

overwhelmed
06-23-2010, 08:14 PM
I spoke with a man yesterday that said he was just going to lease the field between the two houses and behind the house he owns a trucking company and so thats what he needs it for.He will be putting a 6ft fence up around the property.So i guess no sell.He isn't sure when he will be doing the work to the property.But soon

Rizzy
06-23-2010, 08:14 PM
Older Abraham Shakespeare Threads


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April 2009 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April '09. Found 1/28/10 #1 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April '09. Found 1/28/10 #2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April '09. Found 1/28/10 #3 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April 2009 #4 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Susan1
06-23-2010, 08:49 PM
I spoke with a man yesterday that said he was just going to lease the field between the two houses and behind the house he owns a trucking company and so thats what he needs it for.He will be putting a 6ft fence up around the property.So i guess no sell.He isn't sure when he will be doing the work to the property.But soon

So is he going to rent the house as well or just the yard? Why does he need to put a fence up?

wanttohelp
06-23-2010, 09:12 PM
Older Abraham Shakespeare Threads


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April 2009 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92288)


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April '09. Found 1/28/10 #1 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94663)


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April '09. Found 1/28/10 #2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95108)


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April '09. Found 1/28/10 #3 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97161)


FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April 2009 #4 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93733)

have any more? I'm really interest in the very first couple, not titled "found" and financial thread.thanks!!

tigergal71
06-23-2010, 09:42 PM
I am going to see where all the Abraham threads went but if you were here during them, I found this interesting...

"The city has considered other properties but this one had a clear title, said City Manager Dale Smith at Monday night's City Commission meeting." (http://www.newschief.com/article/20100618/NEWS/6185031/1021)

The property is owned by Pelt Enterprises LLC

Pelt Enterprises LLC:
03/29/2010 -- Reg. Agent Resignation Involves DanaYMoore
Last Event REINSTATEMENT
Event Date Filed 06/21/2010

article June 15, 2010 at 11:27 p.m.

I was wondering if politics were coming into play and thats why we havent see the arrest that there was CLEAR evidence for. Hopefully the writer so many of you praise will get the real story out because I'm starting to feel we are Abrahams only chance for justice!!

Hi wanttohelp!! Glad to see you around again! Was wondering about you!!
Maybe you can bring me up to speed......maybe I missed something before, but what does this property have to do with the AS case?? And what do you mean by the BBM section above?? What arrest there is CLEAR evidence for?? I don't recall a Dana Moore being involved in anything to do with this case. DeeDee's name is Dorice. Am I just missing something from way back??

wanttohelp
06-23-2010, 10:19 PM
Hi wanttohelp!! Glad to see you around again! Was wondering about you!!
Maybe you can bring me up to speed......maybe I missed something before, but what does this property have to do with the AS case?? And what do you mean by the BBM section above?? What arrest there is CLEAR evidence for?? I don't recall a Dana Moore being involved in anything to do with this case. DeeDee's name is Dorice. Am I just missing something from way back??

yes, dana was involved the the docs and the all the cedric stuff. the stuff concerning fraudulent titles.

overwhelmed are you talking about the property the 5732 house is on?
richard land owns a trucking business. you have the strip of property, one owner has a parcel 3/4 then there is a 1/4 parcel. the 1/4 is owned by farkas and they have a citrus nursery there. the other is owned supposively by rd properties of brandon aka thomas and alumit. or whatever. do those people exist? you have to wonder. what i find extremely interesting is that the parcels are connected way back to "disalvo", remember them? all this is related to the problem of clear titles. is there a connection with moore/land/disalvo? it would help to have had all our threads kept, i believe we had found another rd trucking other than the store down the street connected to land.if your not involved with these people then common sense would tell you to remove yourself from the situation, the property and business.

overwhelmed
06-24-2010, 09:34 AM
yes, dana was involved the the docs and the all the cedric stuff. the stuff concerning fraudulent titles.

overwhelmed are you talking about the property the 5732 house is on?
richard land owns a trucking business. you have the strip of property, one owner has a parcel 3/4 then there is a 1/4 parcel. the 1/4 is owned by farkas and they have a citrus nursery there. the other is owned supposively by rd properties of brandon aka thomas and alumit. or whatever. do those people exist? you have to wonder. what i find extremely interesting is that the parcels are connected way back to "disalvo", remember them? all this is related to the problem of clear titles. is there a connection with moore/land/disalvo? it would help to have had all our threads kept, i believe we had found another rd trucking other than the store down the street connected to land.if your not involved with these people then common sense would tell you to remove yourself from the situation, the property and business.
It will be a parking lot for Delivery Trucks He is A Spanish looking man and i guess the Fence is to protect the trucks.I know there will be a Guard 24/7 it will be a parking site not a business and yes just the field between the two houses and where the paintball field sets now.From what he is saying.

overwhelmed
06-24-2010, 10:56 PM
I got a call today from the lawyer handling the case for the boys.He stated that the "rumor" was that i was moving and taking all of AS things in the house.We spoke and he is coming to take inventory of what is in here which is fine .But I never stated i was leaving town and taking anything that did not belong to me.Just want to clear that up..I told him the only thing in this house that may or may not belong to AS was possibly the washer and dryer and at any time he is more then welcome to come and get it..And that at the time i was told to use it it was never told to me who it really belonged to.Any how just want everyone to know that..

Susan1
06-24-2010, 11:15 PM
I got a call today from the lawyer handling the case for the boys.He stated that the "rumor" was that i was moving and taking all of AS things in the house.We spoke and he is coming to take inventory of what is in here which is fine .But I never stated i was leaving town and taking anything that did not belong to me.Just want to clear that up..I told him the only thing in this house that may or may not belong to AS was possibly the washer and dryer and at any time he is more then welcome to come and get it..And that at the time i was told to use it it was never told to me who it really belonged to.Any how just want everyone to know that..

I know it is not in the house, it is in the yard, but I believe you said the semi also had belonged to Abraham. The house next door was purchased with a check from American Medical Professionals after Dorice had removed money from Abraham's account. And do you know where the money that was used to pay for the Caddy came from?

I remember in a prior thread you said that there was a lot of stuff in that house that was not yours, that you were just borrowing it because when you came to that house you came with next to nothing. Luckily, I printed off copies of the pages before they were taken down so I can find those pages and quote directly what was said. It will just take a bit to find them. So who does all the things you were borrowing belong to and where did they come from and when were they purchased? I'm assuiming they are all still in the house since the lawyer had told you not to move anything out as you told us earlier. By now your son has moved your things into the house as it was announced that would be done by Tuesday. You also said someone was going to come and take thing out of the house and move them to the Redhawk house earlier in this thread. What things were you referring to if not Abraham's things? I'm assuming again that those things are also still all in the house since you told us the lawyer told you not to remove anything or let anyone remove anything.

Susan1
06-24-2010, 11:22 PM
Spoke with DDM on sunday and she is having someone come and collect ALL her things left here at 5732.I know a lot of them will be going to the redhawk house according to her.Either way i will be happy that i will no longer have them and i will not have to worry about who it belongs to anymore..Not real sure what they will do with this Semi that was a repo of AS but it will be going as well.And it will clear up some things that the family heard.So all in all it will be a great day when they come get her stuff..I was also Told Not by DDM that The keys to the Two Story was turned over to The Detective Week before last Another great thing..

Here is one of the things I was speaking about. Someone was coming to collect ALL her things at 5732 and have them go to the Redhawk house. But then you said the lawyer said not to move them so all these things would still be there for the lawyer to inventory. You mention the Semi here as well.

Susan1
06-24-2010, 11:24 PM
And i as well have wrote a list for her to sign when she gets here so that when it all comes out i have as much proof as i need to show that i kept nothing...I have my own things I do not need someone elses..I thank her and the family for allowing me to use these things while waiting to bring my things here..

Here you say you have a list. So that is something else you could share with the attorney. What was on the list?
List:
Washer
Dryer

What else?

Susan1
06-24-2010, 11:29 PM
Ok just spoke with Mr Martins Office He is on his way to Bartow and They are having Mrs Miller call me.I was also told not to let anyone come in here and Take nothing so again i am made keeper of DDM's Things which if it goes to the kids i am happy to do.I will let ya all know what i find out after she calls me.I can not say for sure.They are the ones who bought everything that was ever sold from here and they got it at a very cheap price.My son is bringing my things and at this time i have decided to stay in this area when the lease is up i plan on moving from this house ...

And here is the one I was talking about where you are keeping the things for the kids. Also, you son was bringing your things to you.

Susan1
06-24-2010, 11:31 PM
But I am glad to hear that the attorney and the guardian are working on this.

Susan1
06-24-2010, 11:52 PM
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/63571595.pdf
I still have the same questions about American Medical Professionals, LLC. Why is it still being listed as doing business from a Bonifay address and not the Plant City address. You are looking at two different counties there. I'm no genius on this but aren't you suppose to have a correct business address listed and aren't you taxed by the county your company is listed in?
Is it because when the name was changed to Stat Nursing Personnel under fictious names, that name was covered under the murder scene house at the St Rd 60 address?
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/80935908.pdf
That company is still owned by American Medical Professionals, LLC and that address is still listed as a Bonifay address.
Also, has the company ever gotten the license that they were going after to practice business? I know Dorice had at least one of the two licenses because we had a link to it. But I am guessing that once the company changed ownership it needed new licenses.
Also, the way it was stated earlier, it sounded like Dorice just gave the company away because she didn't want it anymore. Was it given away or was it purchased from Dorice?

overwhelmed
06-24-2010, 11:54 PM
This is what is in here that is DDM bed,dresser,sofa loveseat recliner lawn equipment,4 boxes of atv things and all of these were purchased prior to her meeting AS.What is here that belongs to AS is semi,paintball field and from what you guys have stated i guess the washer and dryer..My son was not able to bring my things so he will be bringing them July 2 when he comes to get his children.Nothing has been taken as i posted i was told by the Lawyers office it was to stay here he said that again today.Miss Miller never did call me.Mr Martin did tho today..

Susan1
06-24-2010, 11:58 PM
This is what is in here that is DDM bed,dresser,sofa loveseat recliner lawn equipment,4 boxes of atv things and all of these were purchased prior to her meeting AS.What is here that belongs to AS is semi,paintball field and from what you guys have stated i guess the washer and dryer..My son was not able to bring my things so he will be bringing them July 2 when he comes to get his children.Nothing has been taken as i posted i was told by the Lawyers office it was to stay here he said that again today.Miss Miller never did call me.Mr Martin did tho today..
Wasn't there a TV also that belonged to Dorice or her son? And wasn't there some large size games that belonged to them? Something like fussball or airhockey or something like that I think I remember from a thread long ago and far away.

overwhelmed
06-24-2010, 11:59 PM
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/63571595.pdf
I still have the same questions about American Medical Professionals, LLC. Why is it still being listed as doing business from a Bonifay address and not the Plant City address. You are looking at two different counties there. I'm no genius on this but aren't you suppose to have a correct business address listed and aren't you taxed by the county your company is listed in?
Is it because when the name was changed to Stat Nursing Personnel under fictious names, that name was covered under the murder scene house at the St Rd 60 address?
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/80935908.pdf
That company is still owned by American Medical Professionals, LLC and that address is still listed as a Bonifay address.
Also, has the company ever gotten the license that they were going after to practice business? I know Dorice had at least one of the two licenses because we had a link to it. But I am guessing that once the company changed ownership it needed new licenses.
I have my county license why they did not change the address i don't know look it up and it is not listed as American Medical any more that is a question for them as i have done all i am required to do by law.I have had my license since may 11 or 12 I am doing this by the book and as for the sun biz it is for Multiple countys not just for here.

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:04 AM
calm down sister.....we all love u..calm down...

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:05 AM
Wasn't there a TV also that belonged to Dorice or her son? And wasn't there some large size games that belonged to them? Something like fussball or airhockey or something like that I think I remember from a thread long ago and far away.

Yep sorry left out the t.v i do not have the games so why would i add them to my list?They are still in the two story house.I never had those games..Do not know what all you were told i had but i know what is in here that is hers and what is not..That was never posted but its ok I am aware who feeds you with what..What you seen in the pictures minus the office stuff the eating area and my daughters room belongs to DDM

Susan1
06-25-2010, 12:06 AM
I have my county license why they did not change the address i don't know look it up and it is not listed as American Medical any more that is a question for them as i have done all i am required to do by law.I have had my license since may 11 or 12 I am doing this by the book and as for the sun biz it is for Multiple countys not just for here.

I saw that the name had changed to the Stat, but it says the owner of that company is American Medical Professionals, LLC. It's on the link above.
I'm glad to hear you got your license. So you are up and running again?
You had run the company for years from what I remember. I remember Dorice had a license. Did she not have the right one or was it not transferable?

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:08 AM
calm down sister.....we all love u..calm down...
I am calm i am trying to undo the false statements that was said about me.I have nothing to hide her and the only wrong doings i have done is put trust where it should have never went and trust me i am taking care of that problem as we speak.

Susan1
06-25-2010, 12:09 AM
Yep sorry left out the t.v i do not have the games so why would i add them to my list?They are still in the two story house.I never had those games..Do not know what all you were told i had but i know what is in here that is hers and what is not..That was never posted but its ok I am aware who feeds you with what..What you seen in the pictures minus the office stuff the eating area and my daughters room belongs to DDM

Does the office stuff belong to Shar?

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:09 AM
...unit 1 to unit 2...this is joybell pay attention...one time and one time only...i ususally charge alot of money for some of this good advice.....overwhelmed...pay attenion...you and I both know they "ain't no free lunch"...this is a road to destruction...you really think more of yourself than this...it's ok...i've been there...tuck your head between your legs and go back where you r loved and respected.....i know u r angry..i would be too...but please, there has been enough people hurt in all of this...be careful..u r not gonna be a winner...i promise.....as alway...take care of you...joybell

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:10 AM
I saw that the name had changed to the Stat, but it says the owner of that company is American Medical Professionals, LLC. It's on the link above.
I'm glad to hear you got your license. So you are up and running again?
You had run the company for years from what I remember. I remember Dorice had a license. Did she not have the right one or was it not transferable?
It cost just as much to transfer it as it did to get my own and since i am trying my best to get away from AMP i decided to just get my own It will be here in a matter of days now just mail watching now.

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:12 AM
Does the office stuff belong to Shar?

No it belongs to me.His mother gave it to me because she had no room in the u-haul.It did not belong to DDM..or AS

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:15 AM
but make no mistake.....YOUR DREAMS CAN COME TRUE....i know about putting all of your trust in a person that said come with me...i know...but also remember...this to will pass....it will only last as long as you want it too...and also remember when your doing what ever you do remember one thing for me....'DO YOU WANT HIS BLOOD ON YOUR HAND"....and as always...take care of you...joybell

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:18 AM
...unit 1 to unit 2...this is joybell pay attention...one time and one time only...i ususally charge alot of money for some of this good advice.....overwhelmed...pay attenion...you and I both know they "ain't no free lunch"...this is a road to destruction...you really think more of yourself than this...it's ok...i've been there...tuck your head between your legs and go back where you r loved and respected.....i know u r angry..i would be too...but please, there has been enough people hurt in all of this...be careful..u r not gonna be a winner...i promise.....as alway...take care of you...joybellYes i am angry.And i would love to say alot more then i am saying now but i will keep my cool and keep quiet.I do plan on going home joy bell but before i do i have a legal matter here that is driving me to prove i am not what has been said..I have been told i was ignorant and i want to show this person that i am far from it so when i have done that then i will be more then glad to go home keep an eye on public records and you will get the facts as i can not air them here..

wanttohelp
06-25-2010, 12:19 AM
It cost just as much to transfer it as it did to get my own and since i am trying my best to get away from AMP i decided to just get my own It will be here in a matter of days now just mail watching now.

well then you should go ahead and file for this disolution of company or whatever cause your listed on it.

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:19 AM
well it's been awhile since i've been here....now please tell you missed me....lie dann't lie

wanttohelp
06-25-2010, 12:19 AM
Yes i am angry.And i would love to say alot more then i am saying now but i will keep my cool and keep quiet.I do plan on going home joy bell but before i do i have a legal matter here that is driving me to prove i am not what has been said..I have been told i was ignorant and i want to show this person that i am far from it so when i have done that then i will be more then glad to go home keep an eye on public records and you will get the facts as i can not air them here..

i thought you said you plan to stay in the area, is the legal stuff your son or divorce? or something else, i'm assuming not business related since youve been doing deedees company for so long

Susan1
06-25-2010, 12:21 AM
It cost just as much to transfer it as it did to get my own and since i am trying my best to get away from AMP i decided to just get my own It will be here in a matter of days now just mail watching now.
That is the smartest thing you could do is get away from AMP and start your own company. I said this to your friends a long time ago when they first came on. I think the best thing you could have done was totally dissolve AMP and start a brand new company, no ties to AMP. Your friends had said you couldn't because of outstanding contracts and that seemed to make some sense. But I had suggested to them why not open a second company and when the contracts expire, has them resign with the new company. The other idea I had was just talking to the people who had the contracts and asking them to sign with a new company as it would have been in the best interest of everyone.
I'm assuming you have the know how now after all you have been through to start a company of your own.

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:22 AM
so are u saying overwhelmed...there is no MONEY in this for you.....you are doing all this from the kindness of your heart.....no deals...right?

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:23 AM
do you still draw your $2oo.oo a week ...and r u on disability

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:24 AM
What i am doing has nothing to do with AS i am trying to save my name as it has been smeared by alot of lies i have a e-mail that states what is really going on here but i will respect the rules here and not post it.But it does totally show i am simply being made out to be this bad person for revenge.In this persons own words.That is the legal matter i refer to not With AS i have done nothing wrong here regardless what has been said.My soul is clear.

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:26 AM
so are u saying overwhelmed...there is no MONEY in this for you.....you are doing all this from the kindness of your heart.....no deals...right?I am lost here what deals are you talking about?

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:28 AM
....then all is good....if u can lay your head down and night..and all is good..................................as in you didn't know and had no involvement in ABRAHAM SHAKESPEAR death....then all is well with my soul....but, please...i've been doing this way to many years....you may not have been there...but sister..u know alot more than u talking...u may be good and what u do....but, i'm GOOD at what i do...its called 'SEASONED' sister...as always...take care of you, joybelle

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:30 AM
...please...we all know there is money to be made...hey i might be from callaway...but i caught the first train out of town....read me sister......

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:34 AM
i thought you said you plan to stay in the area, is the legal stuff your son or divorce? or something else, i'm assuming not business related since youve been doing deedees company for so long I said when i was done with the legal matter i was going home.That is still true..

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:38 AM
....then all is good....if u can lay your head down and night..and all is good..................................as in you didn't know and had no involvement in ABRAHAM SHAKESPEAR death....then all is well with my soul....but, please...i've been doing this way to many years....you may not have been there...but sister..u know alot more than u talking...u may be good and what u do....but, i'm GOOD at what i do...its called 'SEASONED' sister...as always...take care of you, joybelle I have told ALL i know about this case to the Detectives so I know i am good.And i say only what i am aloud to say..This is exactly what i am saying i feel that regardless what i say here you all have made up your minds as to what i am and what i have or have not done so why should i even bother with telling my side..

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:39 AM
...please...we all know there is money to be made...hey i might be from callaway...but i caught the first train out of town....read me sister......
I have made no deals with no one i am taking money from noone...

Susan1
06-25-2010, 12:40 AM
I said when i was done with the legal matter i was going home.That is still true..

Can't you do a legal matter from anywhere in the state? Wouldn't your lawyer be able to handle it for you if you were at home? But if it is just because you like the Plant City area, I can understand that. I love it here. We are close to Tampa. Plenty of shopping. Still rural.

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:42 AM
That is the smartest thing you could do is get away from AMP and start your own company. I said this to your friends a long time ago when they first came on. I think the best thing you could have done was totally dissolve AMP and start a brand new company, no ties to AMP. Your friends had said you couldn't because of outstanding contracts and that seemed to make some sense. But I had suggested to them why not open a second company and when the contracts expire, has them resign with the new company. The other idea I had was just talking to the people who had the contracts and asking them to sign with a new company as it would have been in the best interest of everyone.
I'm assuming you have the know how now after all you have been through to start a company of your own. My first question was could i just change the name and was told nope the company had to die so that is what i am doing then i will be free to do as i wish but it will stay buried until then when nothing is done business wise as AMP it dies..

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:44 AM
Can't you do a legal matter from anywhere in the state? Wouldn't your lawyer be able to handle it for you if you were at home? But if it is just because you like the Plant City area, I can understand that. I love it here. We are close to Tampa. Plenty of shopping. Still rural.I also still have three months left on my lease so with in the three months this legal matter will be done i am hoping in a couple of weeks.And no it has to be done here because the person lives here in Tampa.

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:45 AM
overwhelmed...u didn't exactly come one his site...being all of our best friend...there is alot of us that have been here since the begining...and if u want dates...i have them...don't get upset with us....we have stuff...that u don't have...as well as you have stuff that we don't have...but look...calm down...take a breath...remember...i might be from callawy...but i got one of those inter degrees...i'm dr. zombobway...don't call me cause i'm on vacation...as always..pls..take care of you....

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:51 AM
seriously, overwhelmed...i understand...this opportunity came along and you were promised to make big money....i've been there...i'm sure there is alot of us that has been there...but u know what my MOTHER...always said...handle your business...and listen to that voice...that tells you....and u know what i mean...you come from the part of the country close to me...u know ur upbringing...handle your business sister...don't forget about that BLOOD..as always...take care of you....joybell

mysticrose
06-25-2010, 12:53 AM
Apparently I am missing something here ? :waitasec: I guess I need to go back and read a few pages .....

Susan1
06-25-2010, 12:53 AM
I have told ALL i know about this case to the Detectives so I know i am good.And i say only what i am aloud to say..This is exactly what i am saying i feel that regardless what i say here you all have made up your minds as to what i am and what i have or have not done so why should i even bother with telling my side..

It sounds as if your side of the story is being stifled by legal issues from Dorice's upcoming trial. But if this is the legal matter that is keeping you in Plant City, I don't think you should let Dorice's trial hold you in Plant City. They can provide transportation for you if you have to appear at the trial. I know in NY that witnesses are paid transportation costs.
As much as I admire the police and detectives in this case and all that they have done, in my opinion they should not ask private citizens to get involved as undercover agents in a murder trial, especially not when there may be others who have not been arrested still out on the loose. I don't know for sure that they have, but that guy who helped find out where Abraham was buried said he was working undercover. I guess it comes to his credibility. Although I fully believe she could have, I'm not entirely convinced Dorice acted on her own. There were just too many other people who were benefiting monetarily from Abraham's death. I don't think it is wise to put civilians at risk.
There have been others on in the past who said the same, that they are not sure how much they can say or they have been told there are things they can't say.

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:54 AM
...your story is nothing i have never heard before....but don't u think u r going to get my part....i'm MARYLIN MONROE... and don't u forget it...lol

wanttohelp
06-25-2010, 12:55 AM
or never mind, is it your helping your daughter with her case probally

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 12:55 AM
I am totally confused.Sorry I am just not getting this..

joybell
06-25-2010, 12:58 AM
well get this....U R WAY OVER YOUR LEAGUE...come home...its ok...r u getting this...don't get no more involved....

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 01:01 AM
It sounds as if your side of the story is being stifled by legal issues from Dorice's upcoming trial. But if this is the legal matter that is keeping you in Plant City, I don't think you should let Dorice's trial hold you in Plant City. They can provide transportation for you if you have to appear at the trial. I know in NY that witnesses are paid transportation costs.
As much as I admire the police and detectives in this case and all that they have done, in my opinion they should not ask private citizens to get involved as undercover agents in a murder trial, especially not when there may be others who have not been arrested still out on the loose. I don't know for sure that they have, but that guy who helped find out where Abraham was buried said he was working undercover. I guess it comes to his credibility. Although I fully believe she could have, I'm not entirely convinced Dorice acted on her own. There were just too many other people who were benefiting monetarily from Abraham's death. I don't think it is wise to put civilians at risk.
There have been others on in the past who said the same, that they are not sure how much they can say or they have been told there are things they can't say. I am not working under cover for the police and this case has nothing to do with my legal matter it is something totally different and has nothing to do with anyone envolved in this case.

joybell
06-25-2010, 01:03 AM
u know after a bunch of years in corrections...as i was always the one...after the judge, jury and God...they came to me...this was long before females was accepted in all male facilities...but i was there...and i wasn't easy....i've heard it all...it took me a few years of retirement to appreciate being a lady again...but the one thing these inmates taught be is this....u don't have to be behind bars to learn this game...no she wasn't by herself...and yes she had folks that helped her...but someone was smarter than her so far....they had something on her .....she didn't won't told...when they find that out..then we will find out the rest of the story...as always...joybell

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 01:04 AM
or never mind, is it your helping your daughter with her case probally My daughter has no case with any thing what are you all talking about here?

joybell
06-25-2010, 01:08 AM
....ok let's leave the family out of this.....please...wanttohelp...we all got hearts...i'm a mom...don't mess with me about my yungin's...easy

joybell
06-25-2010, 01:09 AM
look at all this activity.....we haven't had this much attention on this site in awhile.....ROLL CALL PLEASE..

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 01:11 AM
well get this....U R WAY OVER YOUR LEAGUE...come home...its ok...r u getting this...don't get no more involved....

I was trying to stay out of this i really was.The only reason i came on this site was to set the record straight as to what was said about me.I was not ever going to come here.And as for anything else i am not involved in this stuff.I was put in this mess and believe me i do not feel i am living MY life any more.Trust me Joybell i am as well from callaway and i would give anything to come home right now but at this time i can not.

Susan1
06-25-2010, 01:14 AM
I am not working under cover for the police and this case has nothing to do with my legal matter it is something totally different and has nothing to do with anyone envolved in this case.

I am glad to hear that. I don't think it is safe to ever act as an undercover agent for police as a civilian. You have said several times you are talking to Detectives and that you can't say certain things I thought they may have you as one of their witnesses when you were saying that. I know you said you were making calls to Dorice as well and I thought they might have you doing something undercover there as well, especially given that the calls are recorded. It was just from the comments you made.

I appreciate your being here. I think you've been very helpful about many of the things we would have no other way of knowing than your input. You know Dorice. I know there are a few others here who know her as well, but most of us do not. You know about the business and what happened with that as well.

And it makes sense to wait out the lease for the 3 months. It will be safer there now there will be a guard 24/7. That actually is beneficial to you. Personally, I couldn't live there. Not just because Abraham died there, but like I said, I'm not convinced she acted alone. I'd never sleep. Got to give you credit for being able to stay there, although here you are at 1am in the morning with us so maybe you sleep days. I'm an insomniac. Have sleep apnea and I am up about 20 times a night.

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 01:20 AM
I am glad to hear that. I don't think it is safe to ever act as an undercover agent for police as a civilian. You have said several times you are talking to Detectives and that you can't say certain things I thought they may have you as one of their witnesses when you were saying that. I know you said you were making calls to Dorice as well and I thought they might have you doing something undercover there as well, especially given that the calls are recorded. It was just from the comments you made.

I appreciate your being here. I think you've been very helpful about many of the things we would have no other way of knowing than your input. You know Dorice. I know there are a few others here who know her as well, but most of us do not. You know about the business and what happened with that as well.

And it makes sense to wait out the lease for the 3 months. It will be safer there now there will be a guard 24/7. That actually is beneficial to you. Personally, I couldn't live there. Not just because Abraham died there, but like I said, I'm not convinced she acted alone. I'd never sleep. Got to give you credit for being able to stay there, although here you are at 1am in the morning with us so maybe you sleep days. I'm an insomniac. Have sleep apnea and I am up about 20 times a night.I have never called her.And i was told that if it has not been made public i can not talk about it.

Susan1
06-25-2010, 01:25 AM
I have never called her.And i was told that if it has not been made public i can not talk about it.

She calls you, then, from the jail?
And that is what is putting you between a rock and a hard place. There is only so much you can say. My guess is that you will be really glad when this trial is over and she is locked up for the rest of her natural life.
I remember when she first came on our site and we all told her she would be wearing orange and she just did not believe us. Why did she ever think she would get away with it? I have never understood her criminal mentality that she thinks she is smarter than everyone else and that she could commit the crimes she did and she could talk her way out of it.
Time was not on her side. Time proved her wrong. Someone has a great signature line... time and pressure.

joybell
06-25-2010, 01:31 AM
...awww.....overwhelmed...listen...ONE MORE TIME...this is it.....i know and believe you know...everything i'm talking about...this is a no win situation...i don't care what happened or how anything will ever happen...but it far to late..for u to start playing this game....if u dotted an "i" that should not have been dotted...if u signed a check that should not have been signed..i believe with all my heart ...u will end up taking the fall for everyone....handle your business...it's time to take care of you...the house of cards r falling...and it ain't lookin good...take care of you..joybell

wanttohelp
06-25-2010, 01:37 AM
I have never called her.And i was told that if it has not been made public i can not talk about it.

come on, same thing if she calls you. you have to accept the call.

wanttohelp
06-25-2010, 01:37 AM
not to mention i dont think those is jail recieve calls

Susan1
06-25-2010, 01:40 AM
I still have that one unanswered question. Did Dorice just give you the company because she was tired of it which suggests that she gave it to you for free or did you have to pay for the company?
Okay, I'm beginning to sound like a broken record.

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 01:43 AM
Ok i am going to bed All this is got my head spinning...If you know that i have done something then come out and say it do not keep me guessing at what you want to know.Everything i have done the detective knows.I never made one move with out his concent.So i have nothing to worry about.Besides someone telling tales about me.

joybell
06-25-2010, 01:43 AM
...don't stoop now...yall have all help keep the "ole mare" up this late....u know i to be in bed...

joybell
06-25-2010, 01:47 AM
...overwhelmed...if your still here..can u answer a question for me?...where was that video of abraham and deedee filmed...do u know????

Susan1
06-25-2010, 01:51 AM
...overwhelmed...if your still here..can u answer a question for me?...where was that video of abraham and deedee filmed...do u know????

I think we did get an answer to that. I think it was filmed at RedHawk.

Something tells me that for all the questions that got answered all those times, the one that keeps getting unanswered is really quite easy:

1. Did you pay for the American Medical Professionals;

OR

2. As your friend suggested in an earlier post, did Dorice just not want it anymore and gave it to you, which to me suggests that it was given to y ou without payment.

I don't think anyone has gone too far away. There are still 4 lurkers here.

It's always the questions that are NOT answered that I find the most interesting, especially when asked multiple times.

wanttohelp
06-25-2010, 02:15 AM
can someone tell me why its like dorice owns the redhawk place

Susan1
06-25-2010, 02:20 AM
I have my county license why they did not change the address i don't know look it up and it is not listed as American Medical any more that is a question for them as i have done all i am required to do by law.I have had my license since may 11 or 12 I am doing this by the book and as for the sun biz it is for Multiple countys not just for here.


It cost just as much to transfer it as it did to get my own and since i am trying my best to get away from AMP i decided to just get my own It will be here in a matter of days now just mail watching now.

I am confused now. Are you talking about 2 different licenses? You got one on 5/11 or 5/12 and now you are waiting for a license that will be in the mail in a matter of days???

So if you haven't got it, I take it you are not now up and running?

Also, you can dissolve your corporation. I've seen it in the public records. They have some kind of statement of dissolution. In your case, I would have to wonder if you would also have to dissolve the Stat Nursing since AMP owns that company.

That lawyer you have should be able to tell you how to dissolve a company.

Susan1
06-25-2010, 02:29 AM
can someone tell me why its like dorice owns the redhawk place

The lawyer, Steven Martin, has not yet got it transferred into the estate's name yet, I would suppose. There are other property mortgages as well that the lawyer has to assign into their name. There are also vehicles that hopefully the lawyer will be able to recover. But from the article, you can see they are working on it. It is sad how much was lost to the thieves who took his belongings and converted them to their own without paying for them. It is also sad if the people who got loans from him are not paying the estate. Merissa Green has been doing an excellent job of following the money, but it is difficult to track. He was very generous to people and the gifts are hard to track.

Well, tis 2:30am and I am off to bed. Good night all.

wanttohelp
06-25-2010, 02:58 AM
thanks susan, but its that no one has said anything about deedee moving stuff to redhawk, why would that be done, why would she even still have keys

Susan1
06-25-2010, 03:20 AM
What i am doing has nothing to do with AS i am trying to save my name as it has been smeared by alot of lies i have a e-mail that states what is really going on here but i will respect the rules here and not post it.But it does totally show i am simply being made out to be this bad person for revenge.In this persons own words.That is the legal matter i refer to not With AS.

Okay, I'm dumber than a box of bricks. I missed this one. Guess I didn't have to do all that guessing about what the legal issue is about because you told us and I missed it. Sorry.

So what you are saying is that somebody is mad at you and they want revenge against you so that is why you come on here. Then this person who is mad at you and wants revenge against you is posting somewhere on this thread that we are on right now. I know you were mad at someone who use to be your friend on a prior thread and even said some really nice things about you awhile back, but that person hasn't posted here on this thread that I have seen at all and the thread where you two were fighting is no longer posting on her. In fact, I have not even see that person show up in the cast of characters at the bottom of the screen. So any comments you were talking about have been removed and that person is gone, but you are still here to undue things that are no longer on these boards.

Maybe that person has just lost interest in arguing and has moved on with his/her life, but if that was your purpose, it seems a moot point here now. That person appears to be gone and only you remain.

I'm kind of glad you are here, though, because now you are the only one who can answer questions about that house. Now although you first moved here in January of this year, were you here at any time prior to that when the police came and did their searches of any of the properties? There were some voluntary searches as well as the ones with the search warrants. I believe I even saw your name on one of the later search warrants. I believe there was a search in December. Were you there for that voluntary search?

When did Shar get that office furniture? And where did he get it? Did Shar have a job? What did he do? Where were his funds coming from?

I admire that he gave the house keys back to the detectives, if he did. I hope he will sign over a quit claim deed to Abraham's estate. I have not seen that reported in the media yet. I admire that he gave the car back. But what is he living on now? I saw him listed in a document as unemployed. How do you buy that stuff if you are unemployed? That office furniture looked pretty expensive.

Susan1
06-25-2010, 03:23 AM
thanks susan, but its that no one has said anything about deedee moving stuff to redhawk, why would that be done, why would she even still have keys

wanttohelp, that is an excellent question. Why would she have the keys to RedHawk? She owns the company Dorice once owned. But she doesn't own the Redhawk Home. So why would she have the keys?

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 09:14 AM
wanttohelp, that is an excellent question. Why would she have the keys to RedHawk? She owns the company Dorice once owned. But she doesn't own the Redhawk Home. So why would she have the keys?

I do not nor have i ever had the keys to the red hawk house....

Susan1
06-25-2010, 09:19 AM
I do not nor have i ever had the keys to the red hawk house....

How was the collection agency going to take the things over to the Redhawk House if you don't have the keys to the house? I think that was the question and that is a good question. That place is really locked in tight. You have a front gate to the project lock to get through. Then you have the gate to the house. Then you have the house key itself.

How were they going to get through all that?

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 09:20 AM
Okay, I'm dumber than a box of bricks. I missed this one. Guess I didn't have to do all that guessing about what the legal issue is about because you told us and I missed it. Sorry.

So what you are saying is that somebody is mad at you and they want revenge against you so that is why you come on here. Then this person who is mad at you and wants revenge against you is posting somewhere on this thread that we are on right now. I know you were mad at someone who use to be your friend on a prior thread and even said some really nice things about you awhile back, but that person hasn't posted here on this thread that I have seen at all and the thread where you two were fighting is no longer posting on her. In fact, I have not even see that person show up in the cast of characters at the bottom of the screen. So any comments you were talking about have been removed and that person is gone, but you are still here to undue things that are no longer on these boards.

Maybe that person has just lost interest in arguing and has moved on with his/her life, but if that was your purpose, it seems a moot point here now. That person appears to be gone and only you remain.

I'm kind of glad you are here, though, because now you are the only one who can answer questions about that house. Now although you first moved here in January of this year, were you here at any time prior to that when the police came and did their searches of any of the properties? There were some voluntary searches as well as the ones with the search warrants. I believe I even saw your name on one of the later search warrants. I believe there was a search in December. Were you there for that voluntary search?

When did Shar get that office furniture? And where did he get it? Did Shar have a job? What did he do? Where were his funds coming from?

I admire that he gave the house keys back to the detectives, if he did. I hope he will sign over a quit claim deed to Abraham's estate. I have not seen that reported in the media yet. I admire that he gave the car back. But what is he living on now? I saw him listed in a document as unemployed. How do you buy that stuff if you are unemployed? That office furniture looked pretty expensive.I do not think that i said she was posting on here and susan you have no clue what is being done to me off this site I do not want to talk about that as like i said before every ones jugement has been clouded by what has been said.And another thing yes i was here when the police came and said they had 4 phone calls saying AS was HIDING OUT in the house.When you get your info tell your person to tell the full story seems to be the problem its either half told to you all or just flat out lies.the office furniture is several years old so what is your point?As far as the business the amount i paid for it is noones business you read what you want in it.Or ask your friend maybe she knows the answer to that.

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 09:23 AM
How was the collection agency going to take the things over to the Redhawk House if you don't have the keys to the house? I think that was the question and that is a good question. That place is really locked in tight. You have a front gate to the project lock to get through. Then you have the gate to the house. Then you have the house key itself.

How were they going to get through all that?

I do not know nor do i care all i want is her things away from me.She made those arrangments not me.Looks like nothing leaves here right now so it does not matter any more.

Susan1
06-25-2010, 09:30 AM
I was trying to stay out of this i really was.The only reason i came on this site was to set the record straight as to what was said about me.I was not ever going to come here.And as for anything else i am not involved in this stuff.I was put in this mess and believe me i do not feel i am living MY life any more.Trust me Joybell i am as well from callaway and i would give anything to come home right now but at this time i can not.


I do not think that i said she was posting on here and susan you have no clue what is being done to me off this site I do not want to talk about that as like i said before every ones jugement has been clouded by what has been said.And another thing yes i was here when the police came and said they had 4 phone calls saying AS was HIDING OUT in the house.When you get your info tell your person to tell the full story seems to be the problem its either half told to you all or just flat out lies.the office furniture is several years old so what is your point?As far as the business the amount i paid for it is noones business you read what you want in it.Or ask your friend maybe she knows the answer to that.

Now, see above. The only reason you came on this site was to set the record straight as to what was said about you. If it was not someone who was posting on this site about you, then what are you trying to set the record straight about because you really are not making that clear at all. I don't know of anyone off the site who has said anything about you except the article you gave to the paper. So it makes NO sense.

So, I know I get confused easily. You are saying that in January while you were there the police came and said they had 4 phone calls saying AS was hiding out in the house? I'm assuming you were there with Dorice and she let them in?

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 10:03 AM
I am going to give this discussion one more chance. I mistakenly let everyone post away to their hearts content and it turned into a free for all.

From now on our Terms of Service will apply to this thread. Read our TOS here: The Rules - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

BUT, let me remind you of a few things that are black and white on Websleuths:

1-You cannot attack a poster.
I don't care what this person has said about you in the past. I don't care what they said about you somewhere else. You can only attack what is written in the post and you can only do so in a mature and dignified manner.

2-No name calling.
Calling someone a liar is name calling. You can't accuse someone of something without proof to back it up.

3-DO NOT RESPOND IF SOMEONE ATTACKS YOU IN A POST.
If you do respond you will be either timed out or banned.

4-Hit the alert button.
Hit the alert button, the red triangle in the upper right hand top of the post, and alert us to any posts that violate TOS. That is the best thing you can do to help us keep the forum under control.

If the name calling and accusations do not stop then people will be immediately banned for life. If that doesn't help then I"ll shut the thread down.

I mean it. Don't think because someone accused you of something on the old threads that you can pick up right here and start off again because you can't.

I won't be putting the pictures back up of the house. So that issue is now a non-issue.

Thank you for your cooperation.
This is the reason i am not so clear other then being accused of Stealing and selling AS belongings it has nothing to do with this case.She is a poster just not on this thread.

overwhelmed
06-25-2010, 10:10 AM
Now, see above. The only reason you came on this site was to set the record straight as to what was said about you. If it was not someone who was posting on this site about you, then what are you trying to set the record straight about because you really are not making that clear at all. I don't know of anyone off the site who has said anything about you except the article you gave to the paper. So it makes NO sense.

So, I know I get confused easily. You are saying that in January while you were there the police came and said they had 4 phone calls saying AS was hiding out in the house? I'm assuming you were there with Dorice and she let them in?
No the police came in November and said they had 4 calls saying he was hiding out and no DDM was not the one who let them in And at that time he was a missing person had no idea he was dead noone did.I was at that time not sure what was going on and they spoke out side at first they came in to search the house and again they told PP they were looking for a missing person.I belived her and all the things she was saying.I had knew her for awhile so the person i knew was a nice kind person.I was and still feel sick to know how stupid i looked for being so niave..I did not find out he was dead until the night the police put the house on lock down.She then had said she had went to the police and confessed.It all fit the police was there.

joybell
06-30-2010, 12:24 AM
HELLLO EVERYONE...and happy few days before the JULY 4th weekend...anyone with plans...be safe...and if u live in the land of the oil like some of us...oh well...lets get our chins off our laps...this to will pass...maybe not in my lifetime...take care

Susan1
06-30-2010, 03:08 AM
No the police came in November and said they had 4 calls saying he was hiding out and no DDM was not the one who let them in And at that time he was a missing person had no idea he was dead noone did.I was at that time not sure what was going on and they spoke out side at first they came in to search the house and again they told PP they were looking for a missing person.I belived her and all the things she was saying.I had knew her for awhile so the person i knew was a nice kind person.I was and still feel sick to know how stupid i looked for being so niave..I did not find out he was dead until the night the police put the house on lock down.She then had said she had went to the police and confessed.It all fit the police was there.

I'm going to quote from this article:
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/15/shadow-cast-death-missing-lottery-winner-forces-wo/news-metro/

I'm going to point out it is an interview given to a Tampa paper concerning the murder scene:

"On Jan. 11, having no clue about the ongoing investigation, Munguia and her family moved in from their place in Bonifay. "

So I'm seeing an inconsistency here.

"the police came in November and said they had 4 calls saying he was hiding out and no DDM was not the one who let them in And at that time he was a missing person"

So, from what you have said above, you were aware there was an investigation and search for Abraham Shakespeare before moving to Plant City in January, 2010. I remember you saying before that you had just moved here in January and had no idea about any investigation involving Abraham Shakespeare.

Susan1
06-30-2010, 03:22 AM
I am very interested in the legal liability of the corporations that Abraham's money has been funnelled through and if the liability extends beyond Dorice's ownership. I found an attorney on another thread who was willing to answer my question and who gave his permission for me to post the answer. So here is what I found out:

Originally Posted by Susan1
I am coming over from the Abraham Shakepeare thread where we don't have any lawyers.
Dorice Moore took about $950,000 of Abraham's money and funnelled it through her company, American Medical Professionals. She then allegedly murdered Abraham. Months later, she either gave or sold her corporation to another woman.
What I wanted to know is if the corporation is responsible for damages and if the new owner would assume that liability since it is still the same corporation.
I don't know if you can help us or not, but it is not personal legal advice, it is for this case.
Thanks for responding to me. I wasn't sure if anyone would.
You are more than welcome to come on over to our thread and join us as well. I'm sure the posters over there would love to hear what you had to say.
Susan


11:04 PM AZlawyer
Oh, sorry! I just have to be careful that I'm giving "information" and not "advice."

Here's how it would work: Abraham's estate would sue DM, and get a judgment against her for the theft. Then they could take whatever assets she had (including whatever $ she got from selling the corp) to collect on the judgment. If she "gave away" the corp, the transfer could likely be set aside as a fraud--I don't know the facts, but giving away a corp that just received $950,000 sounds like a fraud to me--and the $ could be returned to the estate that way. If it is necessary to set aside the sale, the corporation and perhaps the new owner would have to be named as defendant(s) at that point.

Please feel free to post this on whichever thread you think is appropriate. And if you guys have legal questions in the future on that case, PM me.

****************
Thank you, AZlawyer, for your assistance. I hope that you will come and join us here as well. We've had many legal questions along the way and the more legal experts we can get the better. I appreciate your help.

I wanted to point out why the price of the business is important and that is why I kept asking that question. If the business was transferred for no money or for a value less than it's real value, then the post I quote above from a private message to a lawyer comes into play. As I said, I am interested in the liability of the companies that received any of Abraham's money and I was interested in knowing if the estate could go after those business for compensation of that money. The criminal affidavit explains what businesses the money ended up benefitting, American Medical Professionals, Shar's business, the payroll company for AMP.

It would appear to me from what he was saying that if the business was transferred without proper compensation, it may be possible that Abraham's estate can go after the company even if it was sold. Since I believe that Abraham's estate attorney is aware of this site since I gave him the link, I believe it is very relevant to this case what was paid for that business, if anything at all.

I believe most of us have the same aim here, JUSTICE for Abraham and reparations to his estate and his sons. Investigating a business that according to the criminal affidavit for Dorice that she owned and that she funnelled his money through is relevant to this case.

Susan1
06-30-2010, 03:27 AM
I do not nor have i ever had the keys to the red hawk house....

Do you have the garage door opener or was that turned over to the detectives as well?
Hopefully the estate attorney will start acting to get back some of the possessions in that house as well as the house and the white caddy if it was, indeed, purchased with Abraham's money. Not sure what they can do with the semi, but I'll bet they could always take it to a car auction.
Just a suggestion to the estate, I believe Richard Land, the man who sold the tan house, may own a trucking business just down to the east on St. Rd. 60. He might have some interest in buying it. Just an idea. And if there is going to be a trucking company going in there with a 24 hour guard and fences, perhaps that man would be interested.

Susan1
06-30-2010, 03:48 AM
A bit off topic, but since it is Lakeland and Tampa, it does impact on law enforcement here.
In Tampa, just over 24 hours ago at about 2:15am on 6/29/10, two police officers were shot down during a routine traffic stop. Dovante Morris is suspected of being the shooter. A woman who was driving the vehicle has been arrested.
In Lakeland, within the last week, 2 officers were shot by a man on a bicycle. One officer returned fire ant the shooter was killed. He was Matthew Tutt, age 21.
Both stories can be found in the Ledger.
These stories will take a lot of the focus on crime at this point. It would be nice to see more articles about Abraham, but we may have to wait until either Discover or the hearing, if there is one.
The Stephanie Ragusi sex offender teacher was sentenced to 10 years in a plea bargain. She is the one who wrote the letter about conditions at Hillsborough County jail that Dorice signed.

Susan1
06-30-2010, 03:57 AM
My first question was could i just change the name and was told nope the company had to die so that is what i am doing then i will be free to do as i wish but it will stay buried until then when nothing is done business wise as AMP it dies..

If I am reading this correctly, you are just going to do nothing so American Medical Professionals can die. I'm assuming that means you won't put in your annual report so it will be dissolved by default. But I believe you can also send in paper work and dissolve the business voluntarily.

I am assuming, then, that you are also going to let Stat Nursing Personnel die since that company is owned by American Medical Professionals and you can't very well have the owner die without the company dieing as well, I would think. I'm guessing you have learned a lot more about Florida Corporations and DBAs than I know, so is that how it works? One company dies and they both die?

http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/80935908.pdf

Susan1
06-30-2010, 04:07 AM
http://www.hillstax.org/taxapp/property_detail.asp?pmid=4756653
Please note that there are over $4,000 delinquent in taxes right now according to this site.
I'm not sure how they do tax auctions, but this is one of the things his estate will have to contend with. Also, I'm assuming these properties are uninsured now no one is paying on them, though I don't know that for sure. If the property is destroyed, everyone is out without insurance.

Susan1
06-30-2010, 04:40 AM
Well, thank you for the assistance. I have learned a lot about this case I would have not known just by reading the papers so I appreciate the help and I'm glad you are here. The more insiders who post, the more we outsiders can understand.

joybell
06-30-2010, 05:01 AM
i am so glad that this thread is back up....will give me something to do over the 4th of july weekend....my business is seafood...and living in florida that's not a good thing right now....all of stress is on me...so, with all of that, i want to say to overwhelmed i apologize if i offended u in any way...that was certainly not my intentions...but debm...i'm an old lady with a daughter that i love more than anything...i will say that i guess maybe it was that mothering thing going on...truly i feel sorry for you...weather your intentions are not....u are in a mess...and i feel and can hear alot of your pain....wanting to save your name ....wanting to save your business...and not really knowing what to do...my heart really goes out to u...and i really mean my apology...and i promise it was not intended to offend you in any way...take care of you...that's all i'm saying...cause as my mom always said.....ain't nobody gonna do it for you.....joybell

Rizzy
06-30-2010, 01:35 PM
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06-30-2010, 01:39 PM
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Rizzy
06-30-2010, 01:43 PM
http://www.polkcountyclerk.net/

CASE NUMBER FILE DATE CASE TYPE STATUS
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001 838016 UNLAW COMPENSATION REWARD OFFICIAL BEHAVIOR 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed
002 83926 MISUSE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed

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06/03/2010 REQUEST FOR SUPPL DISCOVERY
05/20/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 7/6/2010
05/20/2010 Re: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE BY LAURVANL
05/19/2010 MEMO OF COURT (SNAPOUT) 5/18/10
05/19/2010 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH ORDER
04/21/2010 STATUS CONFERENCE MEMO 4/16/2010
03/02/2010 SAO RESP / DEM FOR RECIP DISC & RESP NOTICE DISC / WIT LIST
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02/16/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 5/18/2010
02/16/2010 Reason: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE
02/16/2010 COURT NOTIFICATION
02/15/2010 CORRESPONDENCE COMMISSION ON ETHICS LETTER TO RETIREMENT SERVICES (COP
02/15/2010 INFORMATION FILED COPY SENT J. DOMINECK
02/05/2010 LETTER TO ETHICS COMMISSION
02/01/2010 DEMAND/NOTICE FOR DISCOVERY FILED
02/01/2010 NOTICE APPEARANCE OF COUNSEL / WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT / WPNG / REQUEST
02/01/2010 DEMAND DISCLOSURE MATERIAL FAVORABLE TO DEFT
02/01/2010 COVER SHEET
01/28/2010 COURT NOTIFICATION
01/28/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 3/2/2010
01/28/2010 Reason: ARRG--ARRAIGNMENT
01/26/2010 BOOKING SHEET
01/26/2010 WARRANT SERVED
01/26/2010 BOND REED
01/26/2010 BOND REED
01/26/2010 NOTICE TO APPEAR
01/20/2010 ASA of Record, WALLACE PAUL RICHARD
01/19/2010 COMPLAINT AFFIDAVIT FILED
01/19/2010 WARRANT ISSUED

Susan1
06-30-2010, 02:57 PM
The Troy McKay case is the one where I went to get the Discovery Exhibits only to have them tell me the evidence was sealed. So much for the Sunshine Law State. However, they forgot to seal them and I got to review them before they were sealed. Had some names, DOBs, SS#s of people. I would guess these are the ones Troy ran their names / SS#s for records for Dorice.

joybell
06-30-2010, 03:12 PM
OK...help me out what kind of hearing is this...sometimes i can get lost
...imagine that!!

Susan1
06-30-2010, 03:18 PM
Troy Mckay is the Lakeland police officer who allegedly took compensation from Dorice Moore to provide her with information from police resources and provide her with police type services for compensation. He is allegedly the one who went with her to open Abraham's safe deposit box, like a fox in a hen house. Allegedly, Dorice paid for an airline ticket for his daughter as part of the compensation he received. I believe he is currently suspended pending the outcome of this hearing.

joybell
06-30-2010, 03:19 PM
ok...but i was talking about DDM what kind of hearing does she have coming up? sorry i didn't explain myself.....

tigergal71
06-30-2010, 08:08 PM
http://www.hillstax.org/taxapp/property_detail.asp?pmid=4756653
Please note that there are over $4,000 delinquent in taxes right now according to this site.
I'm not sure how they do tax auctions, but this is one of the things his estate will have to contend with. Also, I'm assuming these properties are uninsured now no one is paying on them, though I don't know that for sure. If the property is destroyed, everyone is out without insurance.

It appears as though a tax certificate was purchased on the property by CITRUS CAPITAL LLC. The way the tax sales work here, is that the certificate holder must hold the certificate for 24 months from the time they purchase the certificate, at which time they can then foreclose on the property. It goes up for an auction at the Courthouse, at which time anyone is able to bid on it and purchase for the highest bid. If no one shows up to bid, then the certificate holder gets the property free and clear (well, for the price they paid for the certificate) IF it had a clear title to begin with. I think under the circumstances, we won't see this property go to tax auction. They have 24 months to work everything out, and although the taxes WILL have to be paid on it (basically paid back to the certificate buyer) I figure the estate WILL end up with that property.

tigergal71
06-30-2010, 08:19 PM
Name: MOORE, DORICE DONEGAN Person Id: @549230 Party: D001 Party Status: Opened
UCN: 292010CF001733D001TA Case Number: 10-CF-001733 Case Created: 02/02/2010 Division: A

Case Status: Opened
Case Type Description: Court Type: CAPITAL MURDER CIRCUIT CRIMINAL

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Docket Charge Status Sentence/ Assessment Minutes Scheduling Active Parties Personal Due

Date

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Filter By Date Filter
Case Number: Name: Name & Case Number: Present/Future: Past: Past/Present/Future:

Case Number Event Description Date Start Time Judge Location Room
10-CF-001733 DISPOSITION 07/08/2010 09:00:00 SLEET ANNEX 401 N JEFFERSON ST TAMPA CR16

Who volunteers to do a play-by-play for me?? I'm out of state, with an internet connection that REFUSES to stream ANYTHING, heck, won't even play YouTube videos!!!! I'm dying over here, and while I'll be able to read the newspaper articles when they hit online, I won't be able to see the courtroom footage, if they have any!!!!

joybell
07-01-2010, 12:13 AM
Oh happy day.....oh happy daaaay...when this thread came back upppppp.....i felt good that day......

ACandyRose
07-01-2010, 02:30 PM
Oh happy day.....oh happy daaaay...when this thread came back upppppp.....i felt good that day......

I know, let's hope it stays up this time. :woohoo:

tigergal71
07-01-2010, 06:03 PM
SEVEN days and counting till the court appearance!!!! And STILL no one has offered to do a play by play for me!! Stuck out here outta state with no local news, and not even able to stream online. Will someone at least post what they hear on the live feed when it happens???

Susan1
07-01-2010, 08:17 PM
Hey, tigergal, from what I understand that July 8 day is just a status date. My source may be wrong, but that was what I was told and I trust my source.

tigergal71
07-01-2010, 11:56 PM
Aw CRAP!!!! When the heck are we gonna find anything out????

Maybe they'll release the jail calls after that appearance???

wanttohelp
07-02-2010, 04:43 AM
I am going to give this discussion one more chance. I mistakenly let everyone post away to their hearts content and it turned into a free for all.

From now on our Terms of Service will apply to this thread. Read our TOS here: The Rules - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159)

BUT, let me remind you of a few things that are black and white on Websleuths:

1-You cannot attack a poster.
I don't care what this person has said about you in the past. I don't care what they said about you somewhere else. You can only attack what is written in the post and you can only do so in a mature and dignified manner.

2-No name calling.
Calling someone a liar is name calling. You can't accuse someone of something without proof to back it up.

3-DO NOT RESPOND IF SOMEONE ATTACKS YOU IN A POST.
If you do respond you will be either timed out or banned.

4-Hit the alert button.
Hit the alert button, the red triangle in the upper right hand top of the post, and alert us to any posts that violate TOS. That is the best thing you can do to help us keep the forum under control.

If the name calling and accusations do not stop then people will be immediately banned for life. If that doesn't help then I"ll shut the thread down.

I mean it. Don't think because someone accused you of something on the old threads that you can pick up right here and start off again because you can't.

I won't be putting the pictures back up of the house. So that issue is now a non-issue.

Thank you for your cooperation.
This is the reason i am not so clear other then being accused of Stealing and selling AS belongings it has nothing to do with this case.She is a poster just not on this thread.

are you the moderator for this thread or something, did i miss something?

JLMcKenna83
07-02-2010, 02:51 PM
are you the moderator for this thread or something, did i miss something?

the mods listed for this forum section are JBean and of course Tricia. I think it might be a misquoted post or maybe they wanted to make some kind of point?

joybell
07-02-2010, 10:56 PM
..HELLO...is anybody here...unit 1 to unit 2...come in..

tigergal71
07-02-2010, 11:10 PM
Hi everyone! I think we're all kinda bored around here, cause there's nothing new to discuss on the case. Does anyone know anything about when the jail calls will be released? I want to hear some of what's been said while she's been locked up!!!

Susan1
07-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Okay, a bit off topic again. Dontae Morris, wanted for killing 2 Tampa officers Friday, has turned himself in. There will be a lot of coverage on this in the coming days. Dorice most likely will not be getting much press right now, though I believe if or when her trial takes place (I still think she'll get a plea deal), we will most likely hear much more then.

tigergal71
07-03-2010, 01:01 AM
Praise the Lord that they caught him!!! What a horrid tragedy. Hopefully he'll go away for the rest of his life. Worthless piece of crap.

Susan1
07-03-2010, 05:41 AM
Praise the Lord that they caught him!!! What a horrid tragedy. Hopefully he'll go away for the rest of his life. Worthless piece of crap.

They think he had already killed 3 other people before the two policemen. I don't know if I'm reading it right or not, but he got out of prison April, about 2 months ago, and the way I'm reading it is it looks like the 3 murders were since then.

Guess we'll hear more. I think he'll get the death penalty if convicted. He earned it.

Susan1
07-06-2010, 12:39 AM
Troy Young, the Lakeland Police Officer who allegedly assisted Dorice Moore by providing her with police services such as looking up license plates for her and going with her to the bank to open Abraham's safe deposit box will be in court tomorrow, it would appear. It says it is for a hearing. It does not say a trial.
https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=53&data=e3638fab21f135e9b25d4659109dbcef
When you get to the link, put in his name, Troy Young, and he is the Troy McKay Young from Lakeland. Click on the link at the next page to get the full docket.
06/03/2010 REQUEST FOR SUPPL DISCOVERY
05/20/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 7/6/2010
The last two entries on the docket are listed above. Unfortunately, there is no time for the hearing. I am hoping it will be covered by press.

tigergal71
07-06-2010, 12:53 AM
Troy Young, the Lakeland Police Officer who allegedly assisted Dorice Moore by providing her with police services such as looking up license plates for her and going with her to the bank to open Abraham's safe deposit box will be in court tomorrow, it would appear. It says it is for a hearing. It does not say a trial.
https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=53&data=e3638fab21f135e9b25d4659109dbcef
When you get to the link, put in his name, Troy Young, and he is the Troy McKay Young from Lakeland. Click on the link at the next page to get the full docket.
06/03/2010 REQUEST FOR SUPPL DISCOVERY
05/20/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 7/6/2010
The last two entries on the docket are listed above. Unfortunately, there is no time for the hearing. I am hoping it will be covered by press.

Is Green & Altman aware?? Are they keeping up with this sort of stuff?

Susan1
07-06-2010, 08:50 PM
I'm sure they both are. They are keeping a close eye on this case. I found it on another page. It was a pretrial conference.
https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/courtEvents?county=53&data=aeb9a11815f87a5ff36fe99b39206a75

wanttohelp
07-07-2010, 08:39 PM
who is green and altman

Susan1
07-07-2010, 10:22 PM
Merissa Green of the Ledger in Polk County and Howard Altman of the Tampa paper in Hillsborough County. They are both reporters on the Abraham Shakespeare story. They have both done excellent coverage.
Merissa Green got the first interview with Dorice and wrote one of the first stories and then many more that followed after:
http://www.theledger.com/article/20091205/NEWS/912055047/-1/TOPIC0115?Title=Woman-Says-Missing-Man-Publicity-Upended-Life
Howard Altman wrote the story on Debbie Munguia.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/15/shadow-cast-death-missing-lottery-winner-forces-wo/news-metro/
Both will most likely cover the trial so if you are going you will most likely see them there would be my guess.
I met Howard Altman in the Courthouse. I had the Dorice Moore file in my hand and I was stuck in line behind him. He was trying to get the Dorice Moore file and the clerks were all freaked out because they couldn't find it. I asked him if the file I had was the one he was looking for and he said it was. He's a very nice man and an excellent writer.
I've never met Merissa Green but am looking forward to the opportunity of meeting her at the trial.

Texas Mist
07-08-2010, 11:55 AM
By TOM BRENNAN | The Tampa Tribune

Published: July 8, 2010

TAMPA - A judge today agreed to give attorneys for a woman accused of killing a Florida Lottery winner additional time to review investigative documents before making them public.

Circuit Judge Daniel H. Sleet approved an agreement hashed out between prosecutors, the media and the attorney for Dorice Donegan "Dee Dee" Moore.

<snip>

Stephen Fisher, Moore's attorney, said giving him extra time to review the information would protect Moore's rights to a fair trial.

The information normally becomes public at the same time prosecutors turn it over to the defense.

The information called discovery includes evidence related to the case such as police reports, forensic tests results, video and audio.

Fisher said he hadn't officially requested the material because he wanted to shield it from immediate public scrutiny.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/jul/08/documents-lottery-winners-death-wont-be-released-y/news-breaking/

ACandyRose
07-08-2010, 02:36 PM
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135880&catid=250

Court hearing for Dee Dee Moore,
woman accused of murdering lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare

Christopher Collette 1 hr ago [07/08/2010]

(snip)

Dee Dee Moore's attorney wants extra time to review "voluminous" evidence the prosecution has against his client.

There are 20 to 30 hours worth of audio and video recordings that would normally become public when the defense gets it. Instead, a judge ruled today that once the defense has the materials, they will have 20 days to review it and object to its release.

(snip)

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af65/acr-research/smilies/XX1196TapTap.gif 20 Days :woohoo:

ACandyRose
07-08-2010, 11:03 PM
http://www.theledger.com/article/20100708/NEWS/7085062?Title=Moore-s-Lawyers-To-See-Records

Moore's Lawyers To See Records
Judge: Suspect's legal team can review reports up to 20 days before they go public.
By Jason Geary
THE LEDGER

Published: Thursday, July 8, 2010 at 9:32 p.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, July 8, 2010 at 9:32 p.m.

TAMPA | Lawyers for Dorice "DeeDee" Moore, who is accused of killing Lakeland lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, will get to see records in her case before they become available to the public.

At a Thursday hearing in Tampa, Circuit Judge Daniel H. Sleet ruled Moore's lawyers could have up to 20 days to review investigative reports and other records.

Typically, records become public record when they are released to defense lawyers.

Moore is being represented by the Office of Criminal Conflict and Civil Regional Counsel.

In March, the Hillsborough County Public Defender withdrew from Moore's case, citing an unspecified conflict of interest.

The material in Moore's case includes investigative reports as well as about 30 hours of video and audio recordings.

Her lawyers will be able to object to anything they feel should not be released to the public.

Gregg Thomas, a lawyer for The Ledger, said prosecutors would be notified what records aren't objectionable so that material can be released as soon as possible.

Thomas has been advocating for greater access to information in the case, including that records be posted online.

(more at link)

Susan1
07-11-2010, 12:05 AM
http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/oridev/criminal_pack.doc?pcSearchMode=CS&pcCaseId=10-CF-001733&pnCnt=1

Filing Date Party Description Text

07/09/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,27-SEP-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN

07/08/2010 D001 MOTION DEFENSE MOTION TO PRECLUDE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE PURSUANT TO FLA.STAT.SEC.119-07 (2) (E) UNSIGNED ORDERS ATTACHED

07/08/2010 D001 NOTICE OF HEARING FOR 7-8-2010

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http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/documents/09-07-2007_Interim_Policy.pdf
FLA.STAT.SEC.119-07 (2) (E) from above
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Case Number Event Description Date Start Time Judge
10-CF-001733 DISPOSITION 09/27/2010 08:30:00 SLEET

Location Room
ANNEX401 N JEFFERSON ST TAMPA CR16

Susan1
07-11-2010, 12:27 AM
And in the Lakeland police officer, Troy McKay Young case:

001 838016 UNLAW COMPENSATION REWARD OFFICIAL BEHAVIOR 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed
002 83926 MISUSE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed


ACTION DATE TEXT
07/07/2010 MEMO OF COURT (SNAPOUT) 7/6/10
07/07/2010 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH ORDER
07/07/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 8/24/2010
07/07/2010 Re: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE BY BRITLEIS


EVENT DATE JUDGE DOCKET TYPE LOCATION PROSECUTOR DEFENDANT ATTORNEY
08/24/2010 08:30:00 STARGEL, JOHN K PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE POLK COUNTY COURTHOUSE :
07/06/2010 08:30:00 STARGEL, JOHN K PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE BARTOW 4 A RED ELEVATOR :
05/18/2010 08:30:00 STARGEL, JOHN K PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE BARTOW 4 A RED ELEVATOR :
04/16/2010 08:30:00 STARGEL, JOHN K STATUS CONFERENCE BARTOW 4 A RED ELEVATOR : C
03/02/2010 08:15:00 STARGEL, JOHN K ARRAIGNMENT POLK COUNTY COURTHOUSE : D

Susan1
07-11-2010, 02:12 AM
http://fl-polk-taxcollector.governmax.com/collectmax/collect30.asp?sid=E2C5664B16AE4177AB147A5BC8A881DB

Search American Medical Professionals

Redhawk Taxes overdue:
Prior Year Taxes Due
Year Folio Status Cert. Cert. Year Amount
2009 1004195 498 2010 $11,069.41

Prior Years Total $11,069.41

If Paid By Prior Years Due
7/31/2010 $11,069.41

As is 409 Pearl Street
Prior Year Taxes Due
Year Folio Status Cert. Cert. Year Amount
2009 1252576 20851 2010 $727.15

Prior Years Total $727.15

If Paid By Prior Years Due
7/31/2010 $727.15


As is 528 Jackson Ave.
Prior Year Taxes Due
Year Folio Status Cert. Cert. Year Amount
2009 1265013 21843 2010 $659.21

Prior Years Total $659.21

If Paid By Prior Years Due
7/31/2010 $659.21

All currently owned by American Medical Professionals.

tigergal71
07-20-2010, 11:37 PM
Still nothing new, huh??

I'm sooooo impatient for SOMETHING new!!!!! ANYTHING!!!!

Susan1
07-21-2010, 12:39 AM
http://www.hillsclerk.com/publicweb/WorkArea/showcontent.aspx?id=5595
This is interesting, what the defense does not want disclosed.
They don't want confessions disclosed.

I read the contents of the Troy Young discovery before they decided to seal it. I didn't see any confessions in there. Why are they allowed to seal that rather than just block out info that would be sensitive? I believe it did say that Dorice videotaped the opening of the bank lock box. So I wonder where that tape is. And videotaping it could be self-serving, cut out the parts you don't want people to see.

Rizzy
07-21-2010, 02:17 PM
http://www.myflsunshine.com/sun.nsf/sunmanual/1BB05D142D8E4724852566F3006C7A1A

Confessions

Section 119.071(2)(e), F.S., exempts from disclosure any information revealing the substance of a confession by a person arrested until such time as the case is finally determined by adjudication, dismissal, or other final disposition. See Times Publishing Co. v. Patterson, 451 So. 2d 888 (Fla. 2d DCA 1984) (trial court order permitting state attorney or defendant to designate affidavits, depositions or other papers which contained "statements or substance of statements" to be sealed was overbroad because the order was not limited to those statements revealing the substance of a "confession").

In AGO 84-33, the Attorney General's Office advised that only such portions of the complaint and arrest report in a criminal case file which reveal the "substance of a confession," i.e., the material parts of a statement made by a person charged with the commission of a crime in which that person acknowledges guilt of the essential elements of the act or acts constituting the entire criminal offense, are exempt from public disclosure. But See Times Publishing Company v. State, 827 So. 2d 1040, 1042 (Fla. 2d DCA 2002), in which the appellate court held that a trial judge's order sealing portions of records of police interviews with the defendant did not constitute a
departure from the essential requirements of law; however, portions of the interview transcript and tape which did not "directly relate to [the defendant's] participation in the crimes" did not contain the substance of a confession pursuant to s. 119.071(2)(e), F.S., and must be released.

wanttohelp
07-22-2010, 08:03 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFBOS1NVIqCodXRmwVUW304YOZEQjBG aAG66jS4hxCkZIzm4c&t=1&usg=__ve0tZnNUFDlKbg1mgzCdx12v7Y4=http://www.commentsbucket.com/graphics/images/inspirationalquotes10.jpgut out

Rizzy
07-24-2010, 03:27 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/armchair_detectives_true-crime.html

Armchair detectives: True-crime websites are nonstop outlets for facts and opinions on Kyron case

Published: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 10:50 AM
Updated: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 10:52 AM

Kimberly A.C. Wilson, The Oregonian
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*SNIP*
Sometimes the unorthodox sleuthing yields results. Last year, Abraham Shakespeare, a homeless man whose incredible $31 million lotto win in 2006 turned his life upside down, vanished along with a chunk of his lump-sum $17 million payout. When police named Shakespeare's friend Dorice Donegan Moore as the last person to have seen him, Websleuths members began to slog through public bankruptcy records and monitor online scanners. Others posted photographs of the properties on threads where property records were mulled. Volunteer sleuths determined that Moore had purchased two houses, side-by-side, placing the home that turned out to be the crime scene in her boyfriend's name.

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Much more at link

Susan1
07-24-2010, 09:33 PM
But Dorice did not buy the house she murdered him in. She only bought the one she buried him at after he was buried. According to public documents, she buried him there while the former owners still owned it.

tigergal71
07-25-2010, 02:59 PM
But Dorice did not buy the house she murdered him in. She only bought the one she buried him at after he was buried. According to public documents, she buried him there while the former owners still owned it.

And this is the reason why you cannot trust every ounce of what is in the media. Because they often make mistakes!!!! I've even seen some mistakes in some of what Merissa Green has written!

wanttohelp
07-25-2010, 11:10 PM
awesome rizzy

Christi
07-29-2010, 02:27 PM
Are we for sure that Abraham was killed in April 2009? Is there proof that the concrete slab was poured sometime back then. I'm just wondering because I was told my another source that they are sure they were with Abraham in June of 2009.

dreamweaver
07-29-2010, 11:38 PM
Are we for sure that Abraham was killed in April 2009? Is there proof that the concrete slab was poured sometime back then. I'm just wondering because I was told my another source that they are sure they were with Abraham in June of 2009.

Everything I ever read, says Abraham was killed in April 2009. There is proof of the time concrete slab was poured. DDM asked that a hole be dug in back of the house. The person who did the work confirmed the date.

Susan1
07-30-2010, 12:36 PM
Are we for sure that Abraham was killed in April 2009? Is there proof that the concrete slab was poured sometime back then. I'm just wondering because I was told my another source that they are sure they were with Abraham in June of 2009.

I wonder if Dorice Moore is still paying people to say they saw him. She's being charged with murdering him in early April.

From the criminal affidavit:
On November 09,2009 Cedric Edom, reports the disappearance ofAbraham Shakespeare to the Polk County Sheriff's Office. Mr. Edom advised he has not seen the victim since April of 2009 and felt that Dee Dee Moore and Judy Haggins were some how involved.

Abraham Shakespeare was last seen alive in the Lakeland, Florida area by Courtney Daniels during the first week ofApril 2009. Ms. Daniels knew Abraham Shakespeare for several years and periodically lived with Shakespeare at 9340 Red Hawk Bend Dr. Lakeland, FI 33810.

On January 28, 2010, Detective Thomas of the Hillsborough County Sheriffs Office and Detective Wallace ofthe Polk County Sheriffs Office conducted an interview with Dee Dee Moore's ex-husband, James Moore. Mr. Moore stated that Dee Dee Moore asked him to recommend the type of equipment to clear her land at 5802 Hwy. 60 Plant City, Florida. He suggested a tractor with attachments, however she purchased a Case Backhoe on April 3, 2009 at a Lakeland Auction. Dee Dee Moore paid James Moore approximately $100 to pick-up the backhoe and deliver the same to her property on highway 60, utilizing his family's flat bed trailer. Dee Dee Moore called James Moore during the first two weeks of April, 2009, and requested that he come to her property at 5802 Highway 60 and utilize the purchased Case backhoe to dig a hole for concrete and trash.

Just a few of the references to the April 2009 date as date of death. Haven't seen the coroner's report, though.

Christi
07-30-2010, 01:23 PM
Thanks guys. The person who told me they were with Abraham in June was probably just trying to cover up who they were really with. I'm sure you guys understand what I am saying without me actually having to say it. I guess I need to start doing some Sleuthing at home.

Susan1
07-30-2010, 09:55 PM
Thanks guys. The person who told me they were with Abraham in June was probably just trying to cover up who they were really with. I'm sure you guys understand what I am saying without me actually having to say it. I guess I need to start doing some Sleuthing at home.

I don't understand, but that is okay. Lots of times I don't understand and if you wanted to say it, you would have. They had also referenced that it was in April when the cellphone usage had changed.

Perhaps you should refer this person to one of the detectives. They might be interested in why this person is saying they were with him in June. Like Howard Stitzel who claimed he spoke to him in October. Or that turncoat who called his mother and pretended to be him in December and then tried to act like some big hero when the truth was he was backed into a corner because the police had caught him as the caller so he turned on Dorice and acted as an informant. Glad he did, but it wasn't exactly because he was some wonderful friend or a hero.

I don't know who is telling you this, but I would definitely question their motives and let the detectives question them as well.

lashekshakespearneph
08-01-2010, 07:53 PM
good research?

Christi
08-02-2010, 12:56 PM
I don't understand, but that is okay. Lots of times I don't understand and if you wanted to say it, you would have. They had also referenced that it was in April when the cellphone usage had changed.

Perhaps you should refer this person to one of the detectives. They might be interested in why this person is saying they were with him in June. Like Howard Stitzel who claimed he spoke to him in October. Or that turncoat who called his mother and pretended to be him in December and then tried to act like some big hero when the truth was he was backed into a corner because the police had caught him as the caller so he turned on Dorice and acted as an informant. Glad he did, but it wasn't exactly because he was some wonderful friend or a hero.

I don't know who is telling you this, but I would definitely question their motives and let the detectives question them as well.


This person has talked to the detectives, but I'm not sure if he told him he was with Abraham in June 2009. He said he did. I think that he just didn't want me to know where he really was. I'm sure he wasn't with him.

tigergal71
08-02-2010, 08:15 PM
There are some new documents up on the clerk's website. One is an order signed by the judge on 7/21 about turning over the evidence to the defense. I'm assuming that the 20 days starts from that point?? If so, then the 20 days will be up tomorrow, 8/3. Is anyone keeping an eye out on the Ledger site and some of the other media sites for new articles?? I'm still on this awful connection (which has gotten worse by the way) so it's really hard for me to search for things and impossible for me to watch video.

Hopefully something new will break tomorrow or Wednesday!!!

Christi
08-04-2010, 12:31 PM
I haven't seen anything yet, but I am definitely keeping my eyes open. I'll let you know as soon as I see something.

Rizzy
08-09-2010, 06:50 PM
This is a link and listing of the documents available on the Hillsborough County Clerks website for the Abraham Shakespeare Case.

http://www.hillsclerk.com/PublicWeb/HighProfileCases.aspx?id=347

CASE NUMBER CASE NAME
10-CF-001733 Dee Dee Moore

Filing Date Description PDF
07/26/2010 Demand for Notice of Alibi
07/26/2010 Notice of Discovery ( Witness List included in this document)
07/21/2010 Order Re: Defendant's Motion to Preclude Disclosure of Information Pursuant to Fla. Stat. Sec. 119.071(2)(e)
07/14/2010 Demand for Disclosure of Material Favorable to Defendant (DDF)
07/14/2010 Notice of Discovery (DDIS)
07/09/2010 Notice of Hearing - Disposition Set & Notice Sent (September 27, 2010)
07/08/2010 Defense Motion to Preclude Disclosure of Information Exempt from Disclosure
07/08/2010 Notice of Hearing
05/11/2010 Notice of Hearing - Disposition Set & Notice Sent
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #5
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #4
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #3
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #2
04/09/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant #1
04/01/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant
03/26/2010 Order Appointing the Office of Criminal Conflict and Civil Regional Counsel
03/17/2010 Indictment Capias Returned Executed
03/17/2010 Notice of Appearance Pursuant to FLA. R. CRIM.P.3.112
03/16/2010 Notice of Hearing
03/15/2010 Application for Criminal Indigent Status
03/15/2010 Arrest Warrant Returned Served Criminal Report Affidavit
03/15/2010 Defendant's Motion to Withdraw and Appoint the Office of Criminal Conflict and Civil Regional Counsel
03/12/2010 Affidavit for Search Warrant
03/11/2010 Indictment Capias Issued
03/11/2010 Indictment for Murder in the First Degree (Premeditated)
02/26/2010 Notice of Defendant's Invocation of Constitutional Rights
02/25/2010 Letter to Chief Judge Menendez
02/22/2010 Application for Criminal Indigent Status
02/22/2010 Criminal Report Affidavit/Notice Appear
02/11/2010 Notice of Defendant's Invocation of Constitutional Rights
02/03/2010 Application for Criminal Indigent Status
02/03/2010 Criminal Report Affidavit/Notice Appear
02/03/2010 ROR/Bond Reduction/Special Request Info Sheet

*Click on the pdf icon to the right of each file to open or download*

Rizzy
08-09-2010, 06:53 PM
Docket Update

http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/oridev/criminal_pack.doc?pcSearchMode=CS&pcCaseId=10-CF-001733&pnCnt=1

Name: MOORE, DORICE DONEGAN Person Id: @549230 Party: D001 Party Status: Opened
UCN: 292010CF001733D001TA Case Number: 10-CF-001733 Case Created: 02/02/2010 Division: A Case Status: Opened
Case Type Description: CAPITAL MURDER Court Type: CIRCUIT CRIMINAL



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07/26/2010 D001 DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF ALIBI
07/26/2010 D001 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
07/21/2010 D001 ORDER ORDER RE: DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PRECLUDE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION PURSUANT TO FLA. STAT. SEC. 119.071 (2) (e) SIGNED BY JUDGE SLEET
07/14/2010 D001 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
07/14/2010 D001 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
07/09/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,27-SEP-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN
07/08/2010 D001 MOTION DEFENSE MOTION TO PRECLUDE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE PURSUANT TO FLA.STAT.SEC.119-07 (2) (E) UNSIGNED ORDERS ATTACHED
07/08/2010 D001 NOTICE OF HEARING FOR 7-8-2010
05/11/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,08-JUL-2010,09:00, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN
04/09/2010 D001 SEARCH WARRANT FILED
04/09/2010 D001 SEARCH WARRANT FILED
04/09/2010 D001 SEARCH WARRANT FILED
04/09/2010 D001 SEARCH WARRANT FILED
04/09/2010 D001 SEARCH WARRANT FILED
04/01/2010 D001 SEARCH WARRANT FILED
03/26/2010 D001 ORDER APPOINTING THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL SIGNED BY JUDGE SLEET (DS)
03/17/2010 D001 CAPIAS RET. EXECUTED: 03.12.10
03/17/2010 D001 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY ATTY ATTY: STEPHEN B. FISHER; PURSUANT TO FLA.R.CRIM.P.3.112 / FILED 10-CF-001733
03/16/2010 D001 DEACTIVATED WARRANT INTC-00007-10
03/16/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,10-MAY-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN
03/15/2010 D001 CRIM AFF APP INDIGENT STATUS DETERMINED TO BE INDIGENT. NO FEE ASSESSED, PRIOR ASSESSMENT PER AO 06-64. FORM FILED. THE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS HEREBY APPOINTED TO THE ABOVE LISTED CASE UNTIL RELIEVED BY THE COURT.
03/15/2010 D001 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY AND APPOINT OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL UNSIGNED ORDER ATTACHED
03/15/2010 D001 WARRANT SERVED
03/12/2010 D001 SEARCH WARRANT FILED
03/11/2010 D001 INDICTMENT CAPIAS ISSUED
03/11/2010 D001 ARRAIGNMENT SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,ARGN,15-MAR-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = RODRIGUEZL
03/11/2010 D001 INDICTMENT ARREST
03/11/2010 D001 INDICTMENT CAPTIAL
02/26/2010 D001 NOTICE DEF INVOCAT CONST RIGHT
02/25/2010 D001 LETTER
02/24/2010 D001 ADVERSARY PRELIM HEARING SET Event Scheduled,APH,11-MAR-2010,10:00, Judge:HEINRICH, WALTER R., Room:CR15, Room Location:AN, User ID = GUNTERS
02/22/2010 D001 CONSOLIDATION ARREST INFO
02/22/2010 D001 CRIM AFF APP INDIGENT STATUS Determined to be Indigent fee assessed. Form filed. The Public Defender is hereby appointed to the case listed above until relieved by the Court.
02/22/2010 D001 CRIMINAL REPORT AFFIDAVIT PP COURT 02-20-10 / PRESIDING JUDGE: DOMINGUEZ / COURT REPORTER: MONROE
02/22/2010 D001 ORAL ORDER APPOINTING PD
02/22/2010 D001 PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
02/22/2010 D001 TO BE SET
02/11/2010 D001 NOTICE DEF INVOCAT CONST RIGHT
02/03/2010 D001 ALSO PRESENT: MEDIA AND STATE ATTORNEY JAY PRUNER
02/03/2010 D001 BOND SET AT: CT1=$1,000,000.00 NEBIA REQUIRED
02/03/2010 D001 CRIM AFF APP INDIG STATUS Refused service of PD, form filed.
02/03/2010 D001 CRIMINAL REPORT AFFIDAVIT
02/03/2010 D001 NO BOND PER JUDGE
02/03/2010 D001 ORAL ORDER APPOINTING PD
02/03/2010 D001 PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND INCIDENT REPORT RECEIVED FROM JUDGE
02/03/2010 D001 TO BE SET PRESIDING JUDGE WALTER HEINRICH -- COURT REPORTER JANELLE SNELL
02/02/2010 D001 CRA DATA SHARING RECORD REC'D

Rizzy
08-09-2010, 06:56 PM
Docket Update

http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/oridev/criminal_pack.doc?pcSearchMode=CS&pnPidm=550018&pcCaseId=10-CF-003449&pnCnt=1&pcCourtType=

Name: MOORE, DEEDEE Person Id: @549230 Party: D001 Party Status: Opened
UCN: 292010CF003449D001TA Case Number: 10-CF-003449 Case Created: 03/03/2010 Division: A Case Status: Opened
Case Type Description: OTHER Court Type: CIRCUIT CRIMINAL



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07/21/2010 D001 ORDER ORDER RE: DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PRECLUDE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION PURSUANT TO FLA. STAT. SEC. 119.071 (2) (e) SIGNED BY JUDGE SLEET
07/14/2010 D001 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
07/14/2010 D001 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
07/09/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,27-SEP-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN
07/08/2010 D001 MOTION DEFENSE MOTION TO PRECLUDE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE PURSUANT TO FLA.STAT.SEC.119-07 (2) (E) UNSIGNED ORDERS ATTACHED
07/08/2010 D001 NOTICE OF HEARING FOR 7-8-2010
05/11/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,08-JUL-2010,09:00, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN
04/20/2010 D001 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
03/26/2010 D001 NOTICE DEF INVOCAT CONST RIGHT
03/26/2010 D001 ORDER APPOINTING THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL SIGNED BY JUDGE SLEET (DS)
03/17/2010 D001 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY ATTY ATTY: STEPHEN B. FISHER; PURSUANT TO FLA.R.CRIM.P.3.112 / FILED 10-CF-001733
03/16/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,10-MAY-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN
03/15/2010 D001 CAPIAS RET. EXECUTED: 03.10.10
03/15/2010 D001 CRIM AFF APP INDIGENT STATUS Determined to be Indigent fee assessed. Form filed. The Public Defender is hereby appointed to the case listed above until relieved by the Court.
03/12/2010 D001 DEACTIVATED WARRANT DIIC-00306-10
03/12/2010 D001 ARRAIGNMENT SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,ARGN,16-MAR-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = CROLL
03/12/2010 D001 ARRAIGNMENT SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,ARGN,15-MAR-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = WATERSDO
03/12/2010 D001 EVENT DELETED Event Deleted,ARGN,16-MAR-2010,08:30:00, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H, Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = WATERSDO
03/11/2010 D001 BOND SET AT: CT1 $2000
03/11/2010 D001 CAPIAS SERVED
03/11/2010 D001 TO BE SET PRESIDING JUDGE: HEINRICH COURT REPORTER: LINDSAY HUGHEY
03/11/2010 D001 WITH COUNSEL ATTY CHARLES TRAINA
03/10/2010 D001 CRA DATA SHARING RECORD REC'D
03/04/2010 D001 DIRECT INFO FILED ISSUE CAPIAS
03/03/2010 D001 DIRECT INFORMATION
03/03/2010 D001 DIVISION ASSIGNMENT PROPOSED TO DIVISION F PER RESEARCH SLIP

Rizzy
08-09-2010, 07:00 PM
Docket Update


http://www.polkcountyclerk.net/

CASE NUMBER FILE DATE CASE TYPE STATUS
532010CF0003940000XX
[236557] 01/19/2010 CF CASE OPEN
CHARGE SEQ# STATUTE STATUTE TEXT DATE PHASE
001 838016 UNLAW COMPENSATION REWARD OFFICIAL BEHAVIOR 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed
002 83926 MISUSE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION 02/15/2010 Prosecutor: Filed

[DEF= YOUNG TROY MCKAY ATTORNEY=DOMINECK JAMES JR STATE ATTORNEY=WALLACE PAUL RICHARD PLAINTIFF=STATE OF FLORIDA ]
[JUDGE=STARGEL, JOHN K]
LAST DOCKET DATE=02/16/2010
[Court Events | Finance Info | Docket Info]

ACTION DATE TEXT
07/21/2010 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
07/07/2010 MEMO OF COURT (SNAPOUT) 7/6/10
07/07/2010 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH ORDER
07/07/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 8/24/2010
07/07/2010 Re: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE BY BRITLEIS
06/03/2010 REQUEST FOR SUPPL DISCOVERY
05/20/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 7/6/2010
05/20/2010 Re: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE BY LAURVANL
05/19/2010 MEMO OF COURT (SNAPOUT) 5/18/10
05/19/2010 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH ORDER
04/21/2010 STATUS CONFERENCE MEMO 4/16/2010
03/02/2010 SAO RESP / DEM FOR RECIP DISC & RESP NOTICE DISC / WIT LIST
03/02/2010 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBITS
02/16/2010 DELETE HEARING FOR THE DATE: 3/2/2010 WPNG
02/16/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 4/16/2010
02/16/2010 Reason: STAT--STATUS CONFERENCE
02/16/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 5/18/2010
02/16/2010 Reason: PRET--PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE
02/16/2010 COURT NOTIFICATION
02/15/2010 CORRESPONDENCE COMMISSION ON ETHICS LETTER TO RETIREMENT SERVICES (COP
02/15/2010 INFORMATION FILED COPY SENT J. DOMINECK
02/05/2010 LETTER TO ETHICS COMMISSION
02/01/2010 DEMAND/NOTICE FOR DISCOVERY FILED
02/01/2010 NOTICE APPEARANCE OF COUNSEL / WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT / WPNG / REQUEST
02/01/2010 DEMAND DISCLOSURE MATERIAL FAVORABLE TO DEFT
02/01/2010 COVER SHEET
01/28/2010 COURT NOTIFICATION
01/28/2010 INSERT HEARING FOR THE DATE: 3/2/2010
01/28/2010 Reason: ARRG--ARRAIGNMENT
01/26/2010 BOOKING SHEET
01/26/2010 WARRANT SERVED
01/26/2010 BOND REED
01/26/2010 BOND REED
01/26/2010 NOTICE TO APPEAR
01/20/2010 ASA of Record, WALLACE PAUL RICHARD
01/19/2010 COMPLAINT AFFIDAVIT FILED
01/19/2010 WARRANT ISSUED

overwhelmed
08-17-2010, 06:21 PM
Wow this site has turned into a ghost site.Where is everybody?Have ya all moved over to the secert site i was told about?From what i have read they did not release anything new that wasn't already known.Except the witnesses..

Rizzy
08-17-2010, 07:39 PM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/17/investigators-search-video-clues-shakespeare-slayi/news-breaking/

BREAKING NEWS

Investigators search video for clues in Shakespeare slaying

By HOWARD ALTMAN | The Tampa Tribune

Published: August 17, 2010

*SNIP*
Investigators obtained the camera in January from Moore's mother, according to a search warrant application. The request came after investigators recorded a telephone call Moore made from jail to a former associate, according to the application.

Moore made five calls June 30 from the Orient Road Jail to Debra Munguia, who took over Moore's nursing business, according to the search warrant application, which was filed Aug. 4.

During one of the conversations, Moore told Munguia she videotaped Shakespeare talking about "leaving Lakeland and what he wanted done with his money," according to the application.

After learning of video, investigators asked for a warrant to search the Sony Handycam high-definition camera, which was previously turned over to investigators by Linda Donegan, Moore's mother.

The camera will reveal "evidence of the personal relationship and financial transactions which led to the transfer of Mr. Shakespeare's wealth and his ultimate death," according to the application.

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JLMcKenna83
08-18-2010, 01:59 AM
This couldn't be the video we saw of DDM questioning Abraham while he was standing in front of the monitors, could it?

Susan1
08-18-2010, 07:21 PM
http://www2.tbo.com/static/special_reports_news/shakespear-case/
This who's who is interesting.

Susan1
08-18-2010, 07:38 PM
http://www.hillsclerk.com/PublicWeb/HighProfileCases.aspx?id=347
Search warrant is here now. It loaded slowly. It is the redacted copy.

Susan1
08-18-2010, 07:51 PM
Since they release jail phone calls and visits in other counties in Florida, why hasn't Tampa jail released the calls and videos? Could be no one visits, but evidentally there were at least 5 phone calls. They released the calls for Hulk Hogan's kid and he was in Hillsborough jail, wasn't he?
Nope. Just found it. It was Pinellas County Jail, one county over. Guess the accident was in Clearwater. I thought it was on the Tampa side of the causeway, but guess not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Hogan

Rizzy
08-22-2010, 12:50 AM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/22/na-camera-may-hold-clues-in-shakespeare-case/

Camera may hold clues in Shakespeare case

By HOWARD ALTMAN

Published: August 22, 2010

*snip*

Six months after her arrest on charges she killed Florida Lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, Dorice Donegan "Dee Dee" Moore continues to inadvertently give investigators leads in the case.

This month, the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office obtained a search warrant to view data on a video camera Moore used to record a conversation with Shakespeare, investigators said.

Moore has been jailed since her arrest Feb. 2 in connection with the death of Shakespeare, whose body was found Jan. 28.

Investigators obtained the camera in January from Moore's mother, according to a search warrant application. The request came after investigators recorded a telephone call Moore made from jail to a former associate, according to the application.

Moore made five calls June 30 from the Orient Road Jail to Debra Munguia, who took over Moore's nursing business, according to the search warrant application, which was filed Aug. 4.

During one of the conversations, Moore told Munguia she videotaped Shakespeare talking about "leaving Lakeland and what he wanted done with his money," according to the application.
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tigergal71
08-23-2010, 10:13 PM
Lookie Lookie what I found :)

http://pubrec3.hillsclerk.com/oncore/showdetails.aspx?id=15463165&rn=2&pi=0&ref=search

I haven't researched Redhawk Bend yet, nor any of the other properties yet, but my guess is, they either already are, or will be following suit!!! Finally some POSITIVE things are happening!!!!

Christi
08-25-2010, 08:43 AM
I am glad to see they are working on getting everything back so that the boys will be taken care of.

Susan1
08-27-2010, 08:41 PM
http://ori2.polk-county.net/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=7523897&file_num=2010118760&doc_status=V

To get the links to work on this site, I have had to click it, close it, then click the link a second time. Don't know why, but that's how it works on my computer.

Same deed they recorded in Polk County 7/29/10 - glad they posted it in Hillsborough County as well.

Susan1
08-30-2010, 06:29 PM
http://www.theledger.com/article/20100830/NEWS/100839983/1410?Title=House-Where-Abraham-Shakespeare-s-Body-Found-Turned-Over-to-His-Estate
House Where Abraham Shakespeare's Body Found Turned Over to His Estate

Susan1
08-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Shar, I think it's really wonderful that you turned those items over to the estate and that you're trying to help Abraham's children.