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GolferChick
06-07-2010, 07:12 PM
If this has already been posted, my apologies...
When I saw this story break late last week, I was hoping that the Mom wasn't involved...

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15245246

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BOULDER — A Superior mother accused of killing her infant son told police she smothered the baby, according to an affidavit released today.

Stephanie Rochester told police she thought Rylan had autism and that it was her fault, the affidavit said. She said she was experiencing post partum depression.

"She and Lloyd talked about (sic) they wanted to have fun in life," the affidavit said. "Stephanie said she knew they wouldn't have fun while they were caring for a severely autistic child."

Rochester told police she didn't want Rylan to suffer.

The affidavit says she told police she put a plastic shopping bag over the baby's head. When that didn't immediately kill him, she said, she covered his face with a blanket.

So if you can't have fun, just get rid of the problem by killing your child...:furious:

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/0607/20100607__steph.rochester~p1_200.jpg

RIP Rylan Angel

GolferChick
06-07-2010, 07:32 PM
Story from the Boulder Daily Camera...

http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15244250

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[I]According to the affidavit, Rochester told a detective that she worked for two years as a counselor at Children's Hospital and that she worked specifically with children with autism. She felt that her son, Rylan Rochester, had severe autism, and "this was very upsetting to Stephanie," according to the affidavit.

Despite her concerns, no doctors had diagnosed Rylan with any developmental disabilities and said he was progressing normally, according to the affidavit.



Read more: Police: Stephanie Rochester feared son had autism, admitted she 'put blankets over baby's head' - Boulder Daily Camera http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15244250#ixzz0qDH2Zrq4
DailyCamera.com

PeteyGirl
06-07-2010, 11:54 PM
That last article you linked is one of the saddest things I've ever read. This little fellow will be on my mind for a long time. I don't know what else to say :(

spamelope
06-07-2010, 11:58 PM
On May 31, the night before Rylan died, Rochester and her husband took the infant to Children's Hospital Urgent Care because the boy didn't want to eat and was being increasingly fussy. A triage nurse checked Rylan's vital signs, which were normal, and the family left without being seen because of a long wait.

While they were waiting, Lloyd Rochester made a comment to his wife that "he didn't know it was going to be like this, meaning having a child," according to the affidavit. When they got home, Rochester thought to herself, "I've got to do something," the document said.

She placed a plastic Target bag over Rylan's head as he slept and then put a blanket on top of his face, the affidavit said.

"She said that she had conducted research on the computer and read that carbon monoxide poisoning deaths don't hurt and you just go to sleep," Spurgeon wrote. "She did not want Rylan to hurt."

After a minute, she removed the bag, and Rylan was still breathing. She went downstairs, according to the affidavit, and ate dinner with her husband -- drinking wine and discussing selling their house.

"She and Lloyd talked about how they wanted to have fun in life," Spurgeon wrote. "Stephanie said that she knew they would not have fun while they were caring for a severely autistic child."

At about 8 p.m., Rochester told police, she went back upstairs and put three baby blankets on top of Rylan's face. She then went downstairs to help her husband prepare for a trip they had been planning to Cape Cod. An hour later, Rochester "got nervous" and checked on Rylan, who was still breathing but unresponsive. Her husband came into the room and thought Rylan was "sleeping with his eyes open," according to the affidavit.

They went to bed, and Rochester told police "she could hear Rylan whimpering."

At about 2:30 a.m., she got up and put adult blankets on Rylan's head "so that he would die," according to the affidavit.

Read more: Police: Stephanie Rochester feared son had autism, admitted she put blankets, plastic bag over baby's head - Boulder Daily Camera http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15244250#idc-cover#ixzz0qEGBWfBL
DailyCamera.com
SBM
This woman is a special kind of evil.:furious::furious: I'm not buying the PPD bit at all. Sorry, if you're that depressed, you don't sit around drinking wine, chatting about how the kid is cramping your style, talk about selling your house and get ready for a vacay to Cape Cod.
She TORTURED that baby for at least 6 and a half hours. She researched how to kill him on the internet-if that's not premeditation, I don't know what is. She listened to her dying baby's whimpers and let him "cry himself to sleep". If this "woman" isn't a prime candidate for the death penalty, then I was totally wrong about Stan Garnett. I sure hope that he reconsiders the DP. They need to at least take off her stylish little suicide smock and let her have at it.
I have an opinion about hubby, but since she's the only one that's been charged so far, I will shup for now.
RIP Angel Rylan. I'm so sorry you suffered so much in your short life. I hope that justice is served.

GolferChick
06-08-2010, 09:58 AM
Oh, my hinky meter continues to go off...last night I kept thinking about this story. As someone who has never had children, I am not in a position to judge post-partum depression but something doesn't sound right.

Here is an update on the story and the affidavit for her arrest ==

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/0608/20100608_014044_Affadavit.PDF

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15248229

tlcya
06-08-2010, 11:10 AM
What moron ever led these two to believe that parenthood was all fun? They never thought to have this conversation BEFORE bringing the baby into this world?

The dad sounds very immature. "I didn't know it would be like this" (parenting) What in the h*ll did he THINK it was gonna be like?

As a matter of course mom's defense attorney will more than likely take a stab at the Post partum thing, but I would need more info to know whether I believe it played a role in this.

Based on the limited info I have read thus far, mom sounds more selfish that sick. Sort of like she had "buyer's remorse" about having the child and the possibility that it would require more special care.

YellowSubmarine
06-08-2010, 11:26 AM
For the past two years, the 34-year-old woman from Superior surrounded herself with autistic children. She counseled them at a hospital.

When her own son, Rylan, was born last November, she became obsessed about the possibility that Rylan was autistic according to an arrest affidavit.

Rochester told investigators "...she can recognize the signs of autism and is convinced that Rylan had severe autism."

She citied a lack of eye contact among other alleged symptoms.

"Of course this is horrific," Pediatrician Joe Craig with Rocky Mountain Youth Clinics said.

Craig says Rylan was too young to be diagnosed.

"For the most part, between about age 1 and 2, you're going to start to see the signs of autism, so 6 months old is extremely early, if it's even at all possible," Craig said.

Rochester's husband said she was worried about their son being autistic during pregnancy, and after he was born she thought immunizations could lead to autism.

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=140573&catid=339


IMO, this is NOT ppd. She already had Autism in her head when she was pregnant. Nuts, yes, but I don't think she can blame ppd. How disturbing is it that she was counseling children?!?

I'm honestly surprised hubby hasn't been charged with anything. I think he at least had some suspicions and possibly even planted some seeds.

Due to the premeditation and deliberate torture, I really think she deserves the DP.

I agree with spamelope -- they sat around eating dinner and drinking wine, discussing going to Cape Cod and selling their house with her taking brief breaks to trot upstairs and make several attempts to kill her baby. DISGUSTING

2goldfish
06-08-2010, 12:59 PM
they're making me mean, guys. you dont even wanna know the things I am thinking.


not that you dont all think them too if you're reading it...

Vegas Bride
06-08-2010, 01:15 PM
I hate this woman!
And I hate the man also!
If you don't want to be a parent who may have to deal with taking a baby to the ER etc then DON"T have babies!!!

When my sister had her first baby she was worried he had problems, he was slow developing and had some odd ways about him. She talked to the Dr and he said to just wait and see.
That slow odd baby is now a grown man with a wife and child of his own, he's a very respected school teacher and involved with his community.

Both of these things need to be fixed so they can never have another baby, then they need to be locked up so they can have all the fun they want behind bars.

RIP now little baby, you're now somewhere where you're loved and wanted.

VB

awgoblin
06-08-2010, 02:26 PM
I am not making excuses for the mom because I still think she needs to be punished for a long time, but when I suffered from ppd with my last 2, whenever I would start the antidepressants, my thoughts/fears would just play over and over again in my head kind of like being stuck in a nightmare.I think the fact she was already scared/obsessed about having a child w/autism,it played over and over again. ppd is a very scary illness..That being said, I think anyone who harms their child because of it should be locked away for life in a mental hospital.

tlcya
06-08-2010, 02:54 PM
I have suffered post partum with all three of my kids, so I know exactly how serious it can be. Fortunately by the time number three rolled around I was wise enough to have my gyn prescribe "mothers little helpers" while still pregnant, so it could have some time to get into my system by birth. Also fortunately, I suffered mild cases and never had trouble bonding with or felt a need to harm my kids. I was on the lighter side - hated everyone, moody, crying all the time, serious mood swings and inexplicable rage towards my dh. Poor man.

That is why, I think I will refrain from deciding whether and if so how much a role it may have played in this case. It sounds as if these fears were plaguing her well before the baby came, probably in part because she worked with autistic kids. It makes me wonder - if having a child beset by the many problems she saw suffered by the children she worked with was a major concern/fear - why have kids?

I just think there is a lot of info we don't have yet about her mental health both before and after pregnancy. Once some more of that info is forthcoming, I will have a better idea what I think about this.

PeteyGirl
06-08-2010, 11:14 PM
Many of us worry there might be something wrong with our unborn child. It would be more unusual if we didn't.

Not everyone who has these fears has the cruelty and determination to take it as far as this woman. People are perverted (not in the sexual sense) as hell. I can't go there in my head to figure out how she justified this. How she made herself repeatedly suffocate the baby, finding him nearer and nearer to death each time and redoubling her efforts.

This is more along the lines of starving the child to death than a psychotic episode due to PPD where she harmed the baby. A whole different mechanism. And premeditated as hell.

mae
06-08-2010, 11:19 PM
. It makes me wonder - if having a child beset by the many problems she saw suffered by the children she worked with was a major concern/fear - why have kids?


Maybe it did not occur to her until the reality of having her own child set in? How can you really predict your feelings about how you will feel about a future child? Especially post partum? It's all just hypothesizing until you actually have a baby and reality sets in.

I don't think it's possible to foresee everything. You don't know what kind of parent you will be or how you will worry about your child or what you will fear. Add in depression, yet another thing that's not always possible to foresee, and it's not something you can predict.

Having a child brings things out in people. It happens. Unfortunately, here it brought out the very worst.

bessie
06-09-2010, 12:01 AM
I am not making excuses for the mom because I still think she needs to be punished for a long time, but when I suffered from ppd with my last 2, whenever I would start the antidepressants, my thoughts/fears would just play over and over again in my head kind of like being stuck in a nightmare.I think the fact she was already scared/obsessed about having a child w/autism,it played over and over again. ppd is a very scary illness..That being said, I think anyone who harms their child because of it should be locked away for life in a mental hospital.
PPD is scary, awgoblin, but antidepressants are even scarier. The effects are unpredictable. The article says she complained of depression to her midwife and was prescribed Zoloft. Please tell me midwives are not prescribing psych meds.

The fact that this mother could slowly and methodically suffocate her child over a 12 hour period, drinking wine and discussing vacation plans in between, shows an extreme degree of emotional detachment. Antidepressants work best when they provide a slight emotional numbing which allows relief to the depressed individual. It's a crap shoot, though, to determine how any specific drug will effect a patient, and patients starting antidepressants should be closely monitored for the first couple of months.

I'm not making excuses for this woman. What she did is beyond sickening, and she should be punished.

spamelope
06-09-2010, 12:55 AM
I think the trip to the hospital the previous night was so that when they supposedly found his lifeless body, she could say there was something so drastically wrong with him that he had to go to the ER. I think this was supposed to look like SIDS. This woman supposedly researched carbon monoxide poisoning-well, if she looked into it, then how come she was so dense she didn't realize we give off carbon dioxide, not monoxide? I don't buy the PPD defense at all. I'm know many of us here have given birth and have had bouts of it. I know I did. But the difference is we didn't kill our kids and then try to blame it on our hormones when we got caught. I do think Andrea Yates was a very sick woman, but I'm not getting that vibe here. The neighbors interviewed last week never mentioned her fear of Rylan being autistic either. So far I've just heard the father say this, and he's probably trying to give her an "excuse", so to speak. Mom and Dad were in Rylan's room for a few minutes when he was already unresponsive and staring blankly.I remember with all of my kids, if they were even sleeping heavily, I would touch them to make sure everything was okay. I can't believe no one did more than look at him at this time.
I have so many issues with this case it's not even funny.
Here's the mom's ms, though there's nothing on it, there are two pics of her on her wedding day. I am petty enough to have gleaned some satisfaction from the fact that on this special day of hers, she had an outbreak of herpes simplex. http://www.myspace.com/308523022

LadyL
06-09-2010, 02:14 AM
Stephanie Lynn Rochester:

9542

RiverRat
06-09-2010, 08:13 AM
Well...it''s not like Boulderites have any Real Fear of major retribution for the murder of their own child...at least there is an arresst already...that right there is Big News in itself...let's see if this latest case even makes it to a charge of Child Abuse~RIP Baby Jason Midyette...nothing left to him but a tiny body filled with broken bones, old & new~ so I am NOT going to be surprised if this "mother' is considered as being humane in the manner that she choose to have more fun in her future instead of HER SON.

I'm having a very hard time with the two years that she spent in autistic settings and the fact that she still decided to have Rylan Vacinated...just another item here in the newest CHILD HOMICIDE in Boulder that is setting off my Unfortunately VERY Fine-Tuned BS Meter when it comes to this town.

After decades and decades of a monopoly in the alleged prosecutor's office, a place that I can only refer to as The Public Pretender's Office, there is a new guy in office and sadly enough, it's time for us to find out if things will go on as they have in the past or if it is finally time for Boulder to actually seek out Justice for the Victims and Serve TRUE Retribution for the murders committed within their territory.

I am sooo sorry, Baby Boy Rylan...I wish that your Mommy would have handed you over to me as you would have made me happy, but now I can only watch your back from here...and Baby - I WILL do so.

Hating having the names that are Obviously running through my mind now...I am soooo sick & tired of their "Victory" that after 14 Years, I have enjoyed my break from That Insanity...and hence, due to the death of little Rylan...Theirrrrrr Backkkkkk :banghead:

Vegas Bride
06-09-2010, 10:23 AM
I think the trip to the hospital the previous night was so that when they supposedly found his lifeless body, she could say there was something so drastically wrong with him that he had to go to the ER. I think this was supposed to look like SIDS. This woman supposedly researched carbon monoxide poisoning-well, if she looked into it, then how come she was so dense she didn't realize we give off carbon dioxide, not monoxide? I don't buy the PPD defense at all. I'm know many of us here have given birth and have had bouts of it. I know I did. But the difference is we didn't kill our kids and then try to blame it on our hormones when we got caught. I do think Andrea Yates was a very sick woman, but I'm not getting that vibe here. The neighbors interviewed last week never mentioned her fear of Rylan being autistic either. So far I've just heard the father say this, and he's probably trying to give her an "excuse", so to speak. Mom and Dad were in Rylan's room for a few minutes when he was already unresponsive and staring blankly.I remember with all of my kids, if they were even sleeping heavily, I would touch them to make sure everything was okay. I can't believe no one did more than look at him at this time.
I have so many issues with this case it's not even funny.
Here's the mom's ms, though there's nothing on it, there are two pics of her on her wedding day. I am petty enough to have gleaned some satisfaction from the fact that on this special day of hers, she had an outbreak of herpes simplex. http://www.myspace.com/308523022

Thank you for posting her MS!
When I enlarged her wedding picture, is it just me who thinks her eyes are rather dilated?

VB

spamelope
06-10-2010, 11:58 AM
Husband of Superior's Stephanie Rochester hires lawyer, but police say nothing 'chargeable at this time'
By Erica Meltzer and Vanessa Miller, Camera Staff Writers
Posted: 06/09/2010 10:44:23 PM MDT

Stephanie, Lloyd and Rylan Rochester ( COURTESY)
Related

* Autism typically not diagnosed until age 2 or 3
* Police: Stephanie Rochester feared son had autism, admitted she put blankets, plastic bag over baby's head
* Superior's Stephanie Rochester denied bond; faces murder charge Monday
* Experts: Postpartum depression rarely leads to infanticide
* Superior mother accused of killing baby is on suicide watch
* Superior mother arrested on suspicion of killing her infant son

The husband of a Superior woman arrested on suspicion of smothering their 6-month-old son to death has hired an attorney, according to a source close to the case, but authorities say Lloyd Rochester is "not chargeable at this time."

Denver attorney Ronald A. Podboy, according to the source, is representing Lloyd Rochester, 29, whose wife confessed to police that she killed infant Rylan by first placing a plastic Target bag over his head and then putting blankets over his face, according to an arrest affidavit.

Stephanie Rochester, 34, was charged Monday with first-degree murder.

Boulder County District Attorney Stan Garnett said he couldn't comment on whether Lloyd Rochester might face charges as well.

Read more: Husband of Superior's Stephanie Rochester hires lawyer, but police say nothing 'chargeable at this time' - Boulder Daily Camera http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15265367#ixzz0qSydgwLP
DailyCamera.com

spamelope
06-10-2010, 01:12 PM
Well...it''s not like Boulderites have any Real Fear of major retribution for the murder of their own child...at least there is an arresst already...that right there is Big News in itself...let's see if this latest case even makes it to a charge of Child Abuse~RIP Baby Jason Midyette...nothing left to him but a tiny body filled with broken bones, old & new~ so I am NOT going to be surprised if this "mother' is considered as being humane in the manner that she choose to have more fun in her future instead of HER SON.

I'm having a very hard time with the two years that she spent in autistic settings and the fact that she still decided to have Rylan Vacinated...just another item here in the newest CHILD HOMICIDE in Boulder that is setting off my Unfortunately VERY Fine-Tuned BS Meter when it comes to this town.

After decades and decades of a monopoly in the alleged prosecutor's office, a place that I can only refer to as The Public Pretender's Office, there is a new guy in office and sadly enough, it's time for us to find out if things will go on as they have in the past or if it is finally time for Boulder to actually seek out Justice for the Victims and Serve TRUE Retribution for the murders committed within their territory.

I am sooo sorry, Baby Boy Rylan...I wish that your Mommy would have handed you over to me as you would have made me happy, but now I can only watch your back from here...and Baby - I WILL do so.

Hating having the names that are Obviously running through my mind now...I am soooo sick & tired of their "Victory" that after 14 Years, I have enjoyed my break from That Insanity...and hence, due to the death of little Rylan...Theirrrrrr Backkkkkk :banghead:

River, I share your pain about past cases in Boulder. But I am really hopeful that SG is cut from a different cloth. This woman was charged with Murder 1 straight off the bat. She is still in jail, not released from a monitoring device to cavort in the mountains. So, in my book, SG is already a thousand times better than Mary Lacy. It also sounds like there may be other charges coming down the pike.
I think the autism card is just a ploy to try and justify her actions for removing this obstacle to their "fun". I mean, really, she could tell this baby was autistic while he was still in the womb? Gimme a break.

spamelope
06-10-2010, 01:13 PM
Thank you for posting her MS!
When I enlarged her wedding picture, is it just me who thinks her eyes are rather dilated?

VB

Yeah, they are a bit. But the whites look clear, so I don't think she was smoking the weed that day.

blue_the_puppy
06-10-2010, 01:14 PM
not sure if i'm allowed to post this, please remove if i'm not, here's the couple's home page from their wedding:

http://weddings.theknot.com/pwp/view/co_main.aspx?legacct=1&coupleid=4107068727907897&guestpassword=

spamelope
06-10-2010, 02:02 PM
By Vanessa Miller, Camera staff writer
Posted: 06/10/2010 10:01:45 AM MDT

Stephanie Rochester, arrested on suspicion of killing her 6-month-old son, waits her turn in court on June 3. Photo by Marty Caivano/Camera/June 3, 2010 ( MARTY CAIVANO )
Related


The husband of a Superior woman suspected of smothering their 6-month-old son to death early June 1 filed for divorce on Wednesday, according to court documents.

In the petition for the split, Lloyd Rochester, 29, states that the “marriage is irretrievably broken.”

Stephanie Rochester, 34, was arrested June 1 after police said she told them that she smothered their infant son, Rylan Rochester, first with a plastic bag and then with blankets over a 11-hour period, according to an arrest affidavit. The couple rushed the baby to Avista Hospital in Louisville when he was found unresponsive in the morning, according to investigators. Rylan was pronounced dead after efforts to resuscitate him were unsuccessful, investigators said.

Read more: Husband of Superior mother charged with killing infant files for divorce - Boulder Daily Camera
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15268198#ixzz0qTTfOjod
DailyCamera.com

tlcya
06-10-2010, 02:03 PM
whoa. For some reason, that surprises me. I don't know why. Maybe I thought they would try to present a united front. It will be interesting to see where this one goes in light of this new info.

Belinda
06-10-2010, 03:13 PM
I took it the exact opposite way. I'm wondering why is he worried about getting a divorce in the middle of all this and his son just dying? It seems a too obvious attempt at distancing himself from his wife.

LadyL
06-10-2010, 03:33 PM
I wonder if his lawyer suggested the divorce. It seems so soon.

2goldfish
06-10-2010, 05:56 PM
I dont find it weird. I am pretty sure...I cant even type it, let's see how to phrase: if that situation happened to me I am pretty sure divorce would be one of the first things on my list of things to do. I would want nothing whatever to do with a monster that killed my child aside from telling the court at trial exactly how my life was ruined by the inmate.

tlcya
06-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Given that I suspect he was relieved that the baby was dead (afterall, he never knew "it" (fatherhood) would be this way)

I just find it interesting. We shall see if it is a strategic move or one motivated by shock anger and revulsion at the mother's actions. Personally, I don't think he was unaware of what was taking place that evening so I suspect the former rather than the latter motivates this divorce filing.

Belinda, ITA Distancing from the wife, erego the act is what's happening here.

2goldfish
06-11-2010, 10:40 AM
Given that I suspect he was relieved that the baby was dead (afterall, he never knew "it" (fatherhood) would be this way)

I just find it interesting. We shall see if it is a strategic move or one motivated by shock anger and revulsion at the mother's actions. Personally, I don't think he was unaware of what was taking place that evening so I suspect the former rather than the latter motivates this divorce filing.

Belinda, ITA Distancing from the wife, erego the act is what's happening here.

I truly hope that when he "didnt think it would be this way" he meant something other than that way.

I mean when I had my babies I fell so madly in love and I never thought it would be that way...etc. I had more examples then started crying so...scuse me :)

but that was how I took what he meant (that having a child is an intense, powerful, wild ride), and assumed that the woman had gotten it wrong...

I just dont feel most people would take a sick baby to the ER and think of it THAT way. like she did.


I just hope you're wrong because I cant stand many more people being so horrible. just her is enough!

tlcya
06-11-2010, 11:25 AM
I agree, I cannot stand the thought that they may have been in collusion together. I hope and pray my suspicions are wrong.

RoughlyCollie
06-11-2010, 05:44 PM
Given that I suspect he was relieved that the baby was dead (afterall, he never knew "it" (fatherhood) would be this way)

I remember what it was like before DH and I had kids. We took care of our best friends' 4 month old baby at our house for 24 hours.

I was totally surprised by what it was like to take care of a baby. It was nothing like I had imagined. Of course I realized that when one is responsible for a baby, the baby has to come first.

What I didn't realize was that the baby coming first interfered with everything I had to do. I either had to give up doing something or stop what I was doing to take care of the baby. During that 24 hours, nothing was done completely, except for caring for the baby. I didn't even sleep well or enough that night -- the baby did -- but I was worried that he would stop breathing or something on my watch, so I glued my ear to the monitor, and heaved myself out of bed every 30 minutes or so to check on him.

When I had my own kids, that was frustrating at first, until I got used to it. Mind you, my "first baby" was triplets, so I was a bit busier than most new mothers are, but I think the transition would have been a bit frustrating even if I'd had only one baby at a time.

So, I don't think that just because a new father says he didn't know having a baby would be like it is means that he didn't want and love the baby. It just means that he is still getting used to this major change in his life. I'd wager that a lot of people, if not most, are centered on themselves until they have a child. It can be difficult to adjust to putting a child first, and it can be wearisome at times, even for those who have done it for years.

Also, since he is the father, he was probably having to get used to changes in his wife, too. I am sorry for him that the changes in his wife turned out to be such horrific ones. Nobody would expect that, I think.

I am not saying the husband is innocent -- I am saying that he may very well be.

cluehunter
06-12-2010, 04:00 PM
I surprised to read such harsh comments directed toward her husband. I think anyone new to parenting can make a comment about it not being what they thought and still be horrified at the thought of something happening to their child.

We don't know Stephanie's mental health history, but she sounds completely psychotic. She was clearly obsessed with autism to the point where she remained totally unconvinced that her child was normal despite evidence to the contrary. She also asked for help from both her mother (who stayed with her while her husband was out of town) and her midwife. Suidical thoughts are more "acceptable" to admit to than homicidal thoughts, so perhaps that's al she could bring herself to tell them.

I was stunned when I read about her repeated trips (I can barely type this) to suffocate her baby over and over, and yes, surprised that her husband never checked on him, particularly when he was "sleeping" with his eyes open. But, I don't see this as a killing of convenience. The point is, this is a tragedy for all the parties involved. I think she is just coming to realize what she has done and is devastated. And can you imagine what Lloyd is feeling knowing his comment was a catalyst to her acting a homicidal impulse? Sad, sad,sad. I have wondered much whether or not anything could have prevented this.

southcitymom
06-13-2010, 07:49 PM
I surprised to read such harsh comments directed toward her husband. I think anyone new to parenting can make a comment about it not being what they thought and still be horrified at the thought of something happening to their child.

We don't know Stephanie's mental health history, but she sounds completely psychotic. She was clearly obsessed with autism to the point where she remained totally unconvinced that her child was normal despite evidence to the contrary. She also asked for help from both her mother (who stayed with her while her husband was out of town) and her midwife. Suidical thoughts are more "acceptable" to admit to than homicidal thoughts, so perhaps that's al she could bring herself to tell them.

I was stunned when I read about her repeated trips (I can barely type this) to suffocate her baby over and over, and yes, surprised that her husband never checked on him, particularly when he was "sleeping" with his eyes open. But, I don't see this as a killing of convenience. The point is, this is a tragedy for all the parties involved. I think she is just coming to realize what she has done and is devastated. And can you imagine what Lloyd is feeling knowing his comment was a catalyst to her acting a homicidal impulse? Sad, sad,sad. I have wondered much whether or not anything could have prevented this.

BBM

Me too, clue. I'm so glad that I had a bunch of friends that I could be honest with after my kids were born. Having a kid was nothing like I expected and I surely made even stronger statements to my intimates.

I feel like mental illness is definitely a factor in this case!

tlcya
06-15-2010, 09:47 AM
I respect all your thoughts and as I said, I sincerely hope I am wrong.

cluehunter
08-17-2010, 10:14 PM
There have been a few updates on this case.

http://www.coloradodaily.com/cu-boulder/ci_15730445

http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_15621348?source=most_emailed#axzz0wv4w4nam

The mention of the financial trouble doesn't surprise me, but I don't think it was necessarily a motive, but rather a trigger to disrupt her already challenged mental health.

This case weighs heavily on my heart. I hate to see it lost in the shuffle of all the other many terrible things that happen out there. I just don't want this baby forgotten.

spamelope
07-14-2011, 09:46 PM
Superior woman charged with murder in death of 6-month-old Rylan
By Erica Meltzer, Camera Staff Writer
Posted: 07/14/2011 08:59:35 AM MDT

Stephanie Rochester during a hearing in Boulder District Court last November. (Camera file photo / Mark Leffingwell)

A psychiatrist at the state Mental Health Hospital in Pueblo has found Stephanie Rochester, the Superior woman accused of killing her 6-month-old baby boy, to be legally insane.
http://www.dailycamera.com/superior-news/ci_18475904

2goldfish
07-15-2011, 06:25 AM
Superior woman charged with murder in death of 6-month-old Rylan
By Erica Meltzer, Camera Staff Writer
Posted: 07/14/2011 08:59:35 AM MDT

Stephanie Rochester during a hearing in Boulder District Court last November. (Camera file photo / Mark Leffingwell)

A psychiatrist at the state Mental Health Hospital in Pueblo has found Stephanie Rochester, the Superior woman accused of killing her 6-month-old baby boy, to be legally insane.
http://www.dailycamera.com/superior-news/ci_18475904


pardon me while I disagree. :sick:

she KNEW it was wrong. that by definition makes her legally sane.

pinkfly
07-15-2011, 08:24 AM
This is so sad. But if she said that having an autistic child would ruin her life and she thought her son was autistic.....1+1=2 and it sure sounds like she knew right from wrong.

MsFacetious
07-17-2011, 03:15 AM
So she worked with children with autism.

She had a baby.

She feared that baby had autism.

So she killed that baby.


So basically, those children that she worked with... were so repulsive to her, that she killed her own child... because she feared it would become like them?

I wonder how the parents of the children she worked with feel about the situation?


There is another somewhat similar case. Probably a bit more PPD and little less premeditation than in this case. We don't know if this woman would have been found sane to stand trial or not. She killed herself within a month of killing her daughter.

This one was hard on me. Raya and my daughter were born 4 days apart and Raya was killed 4 days before my birthday. While she was killing her 6 month old daughter (with Down syndrome), I was with my 6 month old daughter (with Down syndrome) getting ear tubes put in. This one gave me nightmares... for months.

It is however another baby killed by it's mother due to a perceived or actual disability.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-08-05-professor_x.htm

http://chronicle.com/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=14001.0

not_my_kids
07-17-2011, 11:57 AM
As for the husband, I just have to say this, because it bugged me as I read the entire thread. Rylan's father said, "He didn't know it would be like this" in respect to parenting. On whose word are they assuming that he meant parenting? They had just left a hospital because of an extremely long wait...how do we know that he didn't mean the hospital trip, and the "mother" used this statement as further justification for what she already planned to do? And even if he did mean parenting, I think a lot of first time parents make that type of statement, because, well, we didn't know it would be like this, did we? After a long day with a fussy infant, and a long wait at a crowded ER, it's the kind of thing I likely would have said myself with my first child. I never would have thought, as most people wouldn't, that our severely twisted spouse would use that statement as part of their mental framework for killing the child in question.

I also don't feel it's odd that he filed for divorce. I darn sure would have. Even if he doesn't visit her, speak to her, or send her letters, every single piece of paperwork he filled ot would require him to identify himself as married, and therefore force him to think of who and what he married and what she took away. I would have filed for divorce ASAP. If it were a father that had killed the child and the mother had quickly filed for divorce, I don't think there would be quite the same comments about that decision.

As to the mother, I hope they fry her. My oldest son is autistic, and to think or feel or say that you can't have fun with an autistic child, especially after she had spent so much time with autistic children, is just deplorable to me. If I were a parent of a child she had counseled, I would be demanding immediate and intensive testing for physical and psychological abuse at the hands of this woman.

MsFacetious
07-18-2011, 01:48 AM
Another reason for the divorce... her lawyers could argue he can't testify against her because they are married.

Now at least they can't argue that currently... even if they can still argue it at the time of the crime.

indicajane
07-19-2011, 12:43 PM
Actually, married people can certainly testify against each other, they just can't be forced into it UNLESS

The privilege may not be claimed in a proceeding in which the party is accused of conduct which, if proved, is a crime against the person of the spouse, any minor child, or any member of the household of either spouse, or, in a criminal proceeding when the offense charged is bigamy.

http://www.johntfloyd.com/blog/2008/11/08/can-one-spouse-be-made-to-testify-against-the-other/

southcitymom
07-19-2011, 04:22 PM
I am not at all surprised that she was found legally insane. My prayers for this family. Such a sad, sad case.

Jan
07-19-2011, 05:35 PM
My son and his wife had twins from their first pregnancy. The girl was normal and the boy had autism. My 3rd son is a special education teacher and he and his wife knew to get early intervention and to work hard with their son in the preschool years. The boy and his sister are now both in 2nd grade and ahead of their grade level. The boy no longer shows signs of autism and is considered to be close to normal. He still gets extra help. He one day will be either normal or very close to it. My first baby (of 6) was mentally retarded. I knew there was something wrong with her but doctors wouldn't admit it until she was 3 when a university hospital diagnosed her as mentally retarded. She is 43 now, has a IQ of 38, works full-time and earns money, is the happiest person I know, and she is a tremendous help to me around the house and yard and with our pets. She loves children and animals and they love her. No one con predict with a 6 month old baby what the future will hold. A baby just can't be diagnosed and its future path be predicted at that young an age. This baby that was killed was probably completely normal. Ironically, doctors diagnosed my 2nd son as being mentally retarded too and laughed at me when I said he was normal. Well, he is married with 4 children, has a good job, and he has above average intelligence and many talents. My middle daughter's 2nd baby got perfect well baby checkups and was doing great. Then one day my daughter got up in the morning and found the baby dead from SIDS on the day she was 3 months old. It sounds like the mother who killed her baby was having a bad care of postpartum depression along with much greater than normal anxiety about her baby and her future life. It appears that she did ask for help in several ways and didn't get the help she needed. This is a terrible tragedy that maybe could have been prevented if people had seen the red flags in time.

mrye4709
07-20-2011, 04:18 PM
Having babies can effect people in different ways I suppose. I remember not having any support system and a 21 mth old and a newborn. My hubby worked long hrs 6 days a week and I was a stay at home mom. 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. It was hard, but I didn't kill my babies. I loved it, but I did have some bumpy times.

I made sure I told my daughter how hard it could be and how she may feel at times and that at ANY time she could call me.

Maybe if we all tell the moms and dads we know that we understand the difficulties and will be there to help or talk we can stop some of this. We will never know if we saved a life by offering that support. Young people now are seeking their relationships on FB or other social media sites, they are detached from reality.

It breaks my heart that so many babies are being killed. These parents know they have the option of giving up a child for adoption, but maybe they are afraid of what others will think or say. It would be alot better than what people think or say after they kill their babies. I wish this would all just stop, it has gotten so much worse over the years.

OneLostGrl
07-20-2011, 05:11 PM
I took it the exact opposite way. I'm wondering why is he worried about getting a divorce in the middle of all this and his son just dying? It seems a too obvious attempt at distancing himself from his wife.

Maybe the thought of staying married to the woman who murdered his son makes him sick? I would do the same thing and see nothing wrong with it.

I think we will find this woman has had issues for a very long time. She thought the baby had autism before he was even born.. she sounds delusional to me. I hope her defense team has her checked out properly so she can get the help she needs

OneLostGrl
07-20-2011, 05:24 PM
Superior woman charged with murder in death of 6-month-old Rylan
By Erica Meltzer, Camera Staff Writer
Posted: 07/14/2011 08:59:35 AM MDT

Stephanie Rochester during a hearing in Boulder District Court last November. (Camera file photo / Mark Leffingwell)

A psychiatrist at the state Mental Health Hospital in Pueblo has found Stephanie Rochester, the Superior woman accused of killing her 6-month-old baby boy, to be legally insane.
http://www.dailycamera.com/superior-news/ci_18475904

I figured as much. Society really needs to learn the signs of severe mental illness and then take it seriously so that this stuff can stop happening! Mental illness is just as real as heart disease and diabetes and it can kill if left untreated. It's time we all take it seriously!

I hope this woman gets help and can come to terms with what she's done.

mysteriew
12-06-2011, 04:39 AM
No murder charge in mother's alleged killing of infant son
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-no-charges-for-rochester-2011412,0,5982270.story

MsFacetious
12-06-2011, 05:10 AM
Instead, prosecutors and defense attorneys will request a hearing in front of a judge to present the evidence of Rochester's insanity and determine whether she should be committed to the state mental hospital, Garnett said.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/29927611/detail.html

josie1986
12-06-2011, 06:11 AM
I in no way agree with what this woman did but I had mild ppd with my 2nd and it was the most horror way I have ever felt.I never thought of harming my daughter but it was more of "maybe if she wasn't here if I gave her away to someone who could love her..." I came to my senses fairly quickly and realised she and my son are the best thing ever to happen to Me. There is help out there for this but some looks just choose not to take it.

She continuously tried to suffocate her son and had the option to stop but didnt so fry the b**ch
:furious:
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leanaí
12-06-2011, 08:55 AM
Mental people should be treated the same as anyone else who commits a crime, not get special treatment. I personally don't think she is mental and wish people would stop thinking it's alright for someone to murder there child since it was a burden on them. I really think in the near future it will be a normal thing for you to kill your child if you want to. Since everyone is all on population control more and more people are starting to not even care anymore.

The thought of how scared that beautiful baby boy was when his Mother kept putting things over his head just kills me. He is gone forever and she just gets to live on. It's not right. Why do people fight for criminals rights and not the victims? I don't think I will ever understand that.

spamelope
01-11-2012, 04:06 PM
Boulder judge: Stephanie Rochester not guilty by reason of insanity in son's death
A Boulder County district judge found Stephanie Rochester not guilty by reason of insanity in the 2010 death of her 6-month-old son after listening to more than an hour of testimony from a psychiatrist who said the Superior woman suffered from major depression with psychotic symptoms and saw her son as an "alien, toxic, contaminated being."
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_19719689


Well, gee, that's how most mothers perceive their teenagers-"alien, toxic and contaminated" beings. So is it open season on them, too? GRRR I disagree with this so very much.
RIP Rylan