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TravelingBug
06-08-2010, 09:55 PM
JBean is going to "sticky" this thread for us to have a place as a list for all the Spanish or Dutch articles for the Joran related cases that need to be translated.

If you have something you're requesting to be translated please link it here, and one of us who can translate for you will translate it and also include it here.

This will allow us to keep referencing articles and not lose track of them in the busy thread and help those of us who want to be able to assist by translating better able to pitch in!

Patty G
06-08-2010, 10:02 PM
Thanks JBean!

Kindly translate this video please. Thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gFDZlRoBI

Mohabi
06-08-2010, 10:10 PM
Thanks JBean!

Kindly translate this video please. Thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gFDZlRoBI

The video isn't working for me, but I've translated this before (see thread # 2). Here is a recap:

Here is a full, non-googled, non-babblefished translation of the 20/20 video. These are the words of the female reporter you hear in the video:

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"In the first image a seated woman who seems to be protecting herself from the cold is observing van der Sloot requesting his key from the consierge, who approaches to take care of him.

In the second image van der Sloot waits and it is possible to see that behind the door someone is accompanying him.

In the third image the hotel employee appears to be verifying whether there is a message for the dutch man, while his companion remains behind the door.

In the next image the dutch man enters the central hallway of the hotel and Stephanie Flores, who has gathered her hair in a bun, appears behind him. It is the last image of the race car driver Ricardo Flores' daughter.

Three days later, an employee of the hotel, Adelia Abad Rochena, received a call for room 309, where Joran van der Sloot was staying. Then she transferred the call but since nobody was answering, the call returned to the phone central. Forty minutes later, the employee found out that van der Sloot owed 2 days of rent. She then went upstairs to the room, knocked on the door, and heard that the television was on.

It was also established that the night prior to her death Stephanie had won 5,000 dollars FROM THIS FOREIGNER in a poker game. Fact that he had denied. "

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I hope it was the same video I translated before. I think it is :)

TravelingBug
06-08-2010, 10:18 PM
It's the same. Glad you knew you had done that one, I was just going to start!

Thanks! :woohoo:

Mohabi
06-08-2010, 10:19 PM
It's the same. Glad you knew you had done that one, I was just going to start!

Thanks! :woohoo:

We need to make sure we don't work on the same things :) How can we do that?

Patty G
06-08-2010, 10:23 PM
This video shows the bedroom around 55 and it appears there is discussion about the room. It shows the bed, cigarettes and glasses.

Patty G
06-08-2010, 10:27 PM
We need to make sure we don't work on the same things :) How can we do that?

Once a member puts in a link to be translated and it is translated, a mod can add the translation under the original link. Then clean up the thread to keep things in order.

TravelingBug
06-08-2010, 10:53 PM
Once a member puts in a link to be translated and it is translated, a mod can add the translation under the original link. Then clean up the thread to keep things in order.

Right now, the translation for the video I provided is not complete, so once the translation is complete, the mod could put the translation under the video.

Actually, it's all there.

The part beginning at 55 seconds corresponds with what Mohabi has as the last two paragraphs - the "three days later" - that's what she's saying with what they're showing.

It is completely translated :)

TravelingBug
06-09-2010, 12:27 AM
Here's one that was requested to be translated:


Here are two articles about the missing Colombia girls. One needs to be translated.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/491661/dos-mujeres-desaparecieron-colombia-durante-estadia-van-der-sloot-ese-pais

TravelingBug
06-09-2010, 12:42 AM
Ok, here's the above requested article:

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/491661/dos-mujeres-desaparecieron-colombia-durante-estadia-van-der-sloot-ese-pais

Dos mujeres desaparecieron en Colombia durante estadía de Van der Sloot en ese país

Two woman missing in Columbia during Van der Sloot's stay in that country


Las jóvenes eran asiduas concurrentes de exclusivos casinos. Periodistas del vecino país se encuentran en Lima para seguir el caso del holandés
Martes 08 de junio de 2010 - 10:14 am

The youth were frequent visitors to the exclusive casinos. Reporters from the neighboring country are in Lima to follow the case of the Dutchman.


Antes de llegar a Lima el pasado 14 de mayo, el holandés Joran van der Sloot estuvo en Colombia a donde llegó el 6 de mayo. ¿Qué hizo en esos días en el vecino país? Lo mismo que aquí, visitar salas de juego.

Before arriving in Lima on the 14th of May, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot was in Columbia where he arrived the 6th of May. What was he doing during those days in that country? The same thing as here (Peru), visiting casinos.

Sin embargo, su estadía coincidió con la desaparición de dos jóvenes colombianas, quienes también eran asiduas concurrentes de casinos exclusivos.

His stay coincided with the disappearance of two young Columbian woman who were also frequent visitors of the exclusive casinos.

“En esos días (el holandés) visitó salas de juego de la ciudad de Bogotá, como muestran los videos de seguridad de los locales. Sabemos que estuvo hospedado en dos hoteles, por ello la policía colombiana empezó las investigaciones”, contó una fuente periodística colombiana citada por un diario local.

"In those days the Dutchman visited gaming houses (casinos) in the city of Bogota, as seen in the security videos of the premises of those places. We know that he was staying in [the] two hotels so the Columbian police began the investigations," a source told a Columbian journalist for a local paper.

En las próximas horas se efectuaría la reconstrucción del crimen de Stephany Flores en el hotel TAC, donde Van der Sloot la asesinó, según confesó anoche a la policía.

In the next hours they will carry out the reconstruction of the crime against Stephany Flores in the TAC Hotel where van der Sloot killed her, according to his confession to the police last night.

Mohabi
06-09-2010, 12:43 AM
http://elcomercio.pe/player/491307

This video is in Spanish but shows a girl on the floor of Room 309 and she's wearing long black pants and a black shirt. Is this a re-enactment or is this a crime scene and the red panty report is faulty? I'm a bit confused here. Maybe a Spanish-speaker can tell us if this is Stephany or not. It occurs at the 25 second mark.

This was requested. Here is the translation, if I missed something it wasn't important (trust me).

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Nine days ago he fled. He denied it for 5 days since his detention in Chile. Finally, he admitted to be the murderer of Stephany Flores. The Dutchman, Joran van der Sloot, confessed to the detectives of the Homicide Division and an official, that he hit and broke the neck of the girl in room 309 at the Hotel TAC in Miraflores after she had found out about the subject’s past, detailed on this laptop computer, property of the detained, and that played a key role in unchaining the dementia of this individual.

VDS detailed step by step what happened to the police agents since he left the Atlantic City Casino on May 30, together with Flores, at 5:15 am. 5 minutes later, at 5:20, as registered by the security camera of the hotel, both arrived at the lobby of the establishment, here was Adelia Abad, the receptionist whose declaration was fundamental. Shortly thereafter, both were in the room. Approximately at 8:10 am, Abad saw van der Sloot buying coffee at the service station located next to the hotel. At 8:11 van der Sloot returned to the room and found Stephany reading his past on the laptop. The Dutchman confessed that he slapped Flores, and then grabbed her neck, causing her immediate death. He took out his things, as he left he made sure that the lock (on the door) was secure, and left the building at 8:56 a.m. After hiding the car, van der Sloot started the flight, and his laptop was one of the few objects that he didn’t get rid of on the
road from Lima to Tacna.

This laptop is one of the possessions of van der Sloot that was seized by police and whose description is detailed in the fiscal documentation of June 4. It has been forwarded to the division of high technology crimes, who is using a forensic software that seeks to corroborate the confession as to what happened before the final attack.

Since his arrest in Chile until before his transport from Tacna to Lima, van der Sloot underwent multiple medical examinations.. America Noticias had access to two of them. One performed in Arica, frontier town, in which Mr. Van der Sloot's good state of health was certified, and that there is no existing pathology nor lesions, and describes him “lucid” (aware).

After an hour and 15 minutes of difference, the Peruvian doctors submitted him to another evaluation in Tacna, concluding that there are no traumatic lesions present and that his vital signs are stable. These two examinations prove that the victim had no possibility of defending herself at all - because the attack of the accused was sudden, and severe. During the unfolding of these events, the work of the National Police was decisive, because from the moment the accused was turned over in Tacna the expertise of the agents led to van der Sloot trusting them, and after two days admitting to the murder. Maybe that’s why when as he entered the building of the criminal authorities, he had this significant reaction, knowing in his conscience that he was arriving at the last station of his young criminal path.

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P.S. Sheesh so many typos needed to be fixed. I have to go to bed........next time I'll edit 40 times before uploading. Promise.

krowdkat
06-09-2010, 12:53 AM
Thanks so much, you all. This is another article I would like translated about Joran's acquantance, Elton Garcia. The article is fine but if you would just listen to the video and determine if there is anything of value I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks again for starting this thread and helping with translations.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/490019/ciudadano-albanes-acompano-joran-van-der-sloot-competencia-poker

KR2tonenow
06-09-2010, 12:57 AM
This was requested. Here is the translation, if I missed something it wasn't important (trust me).

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Nine days ago he fled. He denied it for 5 days since his detention in Chile. Finally, he admitted to be the murderer of Stephany Flores. The Dutchman, Joran van der Sloot, confessed to the detectives of the Homicide Division and an official, that he hit and broke the neck of the girl in room 309 at the Hotel TAC in Miraflores after she had found out about the subject’s past, detailed on this laptop computer, property of the detained, and that played a key role in unchaining the dementia of this individual.

VDS detailed step by step what happened to the police agents since he left the Atlantic City Casino on May 30, together with Flores, at 5:15 am. 5 minutes later, at 5:20, as registered by the security camera of the hotel, both arrived at the lobby of the establishment, here was Adelia Abad, the receptionist whose declaration was fundamental. Shortly thereafter, both were in the room. Approximately at 8:10 am, Abad saw van der Sloot buying coffee at the service station located next to the hotel. At 8:11 van der Sloot returned to the room and found Stephany reading his past on the laptop. The Dutchman confessed that he slapped Flores, and then grabbed her neck, causing her immediate death. He took out his things, as he left he made sure that the lock (on the door) was secure, and left the building at 8:56 a.m. After hiding the car, van der Sloot started the flight, and his laptop was one of the few objects that he didn’t get rid of on the
road from Lima to Tacna.

This laptop is one of the possessions of van der Sloot that was seized by police and whose description is detailed in the fiscal documentation of June 4. It has been forwarded to the division of high technology crimes, who is using a forensic software that seeks to corroborate the confession as to what happened before the final attack.

Since his arrest in Chile until before his transport from Tacna to Lima, van der Sloot underwent multiple medical examinations.. America Noticias had access to two of them. One performed in Arica, frontier town, in which Mr. Van der Sloot's good state of health was certified, and that there is no existing pathology nor lesions, and describes him “lucid” (aware).

After an hour and 15 minutes of difference, the Peruvian doctors submitted him to another evaluation in Tacna, concluding that there are no traumatic lesions present and that his vital signs are stable. These two examinations prove that the victim had no possibility of defending herself at all - because the attack of the accused was sudden, and severe. During the unfolding of these events, the work of the National Police was decisive, because from the moment the accused was turned over in Tacna the expertise of the agents led to van der Sloot trusting them, and after two days admitting to the murder. Maybe that’s why when as he entered the building of the criminal authorities, he had this significant reaction, knowing in his conscience that he was arriving at the last station of his young criminal path.

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P.S. Sheesh so many typos needed to be fixed. I have to go to bed........next time I'll edit 40 times before uploading. Promise.

You did a great job, good article~ thanks so much!

TravelingBug
06-09-2010, 01:00 AM
Thanks so much, you all. This is another article I would like translated about Joran's acquantance, Elton Garcia. The article is fine but if you would just listen to the video and determine if there is anything of value I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks again for starting this thread and helping with translations.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/490019/ciudadano-albanes-acompano-joran-van-der-sloot-competencia-poker

Absolutely!

I'll do the article...Mohabi, would you mind doing the video when you're back? I can try, but my hearing with videos online isn't as good - tv is much easier - especially trying to translate. I'll do my best...but I don't mind doing the article.

Mohabi
06-09-2010, 01:03 AM
Thanks so much, you all. This is another article I would like translated about Joran's acquantance, Elton Garcia. The article is fine but if you would just listen to the video and determine if there is anything of value I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks again for starting this thread and helping with translations.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/490019/ciudadano-albanes-acompano-joran-van-der-sloot-competencia-poker

I didn't do the article itself and I'm too tired right now to do it. Have to get up in 4 hours so it's a "no go", but I did the video translation last night, before he confessed. I didn't post it because I thought it was a moot point. Here it is:

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His name is Elton Garcia and he is 35 years old. He was born in Albania but is a nationalized Uruguayan. He flees the cameras after declaring at the Divicri, hiding in the taxi, he didn’t want to answer. (I can not make out most of the questions the reporter asks him while in the taxi. Bad audio due to traffic noises). “Are you the one she won 5,000 dollars from?” I hear something like “I have no idea what you are talking about”. “Are you a friend of the Dutchman?”.

…. But Americo Noticias managed to get his declaration:

García tells that he was living in the same hotel as the Dutchman starting at the beginning of May. He met Stephany Flores and Joran van der Sloot because they went to the Casino where only he participated in the Poker World Championship. The night of Tuesday, June 1, Jordan did not go to a dinner that had been planned, and worried, he went to the Atlantic City to look for him. From there he asked that they call the TAC Hotel but he wasn’t there either. After he finished his game, he decided to go to the hotel. “I asked the receptionist whether he was in his room and she told me he was not there, and that the police was on it’s way because they had found a dead woman in this guy’s room. When the police arrived they asked me to see the body, but I didn’t want to see (it). They made me look at a photo and I recognized her. It was Stephany. I also saw the video camera of the hotel and I was able to recognize her when she was entering with Joran van der Sloot.”

Garcia didn’t say anything about the alleged 5,000 dollars he may have lost playing with Stephany, but he told that she had won 2,000 Soles in a poker game at the beginning of May.

According to his immigration registration there were several entries from Uruguay since the year 2008. Sometimes he remained in Peru for 3 days, other times 2 weeks. He arrived to our country on April 29th of this year as a tourist. Furthermore, during his participation in the World Poker Championship, held in Lima, in the Atlantic City Hotel, he identified himself as Uruguayan, as seen on internet page PeruPoker.net

Hours before, Stephany’s father Ricardo Flores also declared at Divicri about his first approach to Personal Domicilios “I didn’t know that he was stealing my daughter’s money, I didn’t know that he had stolen the jewelery of my daughter, because I really didn’t….didn’t….. my contact was with the police that handles kidnappings”

The Kidnapping divison turned over the case………when the body of the victim was found, and Homicidios took it over . Flores assured that he tennis racket, the alleged attack weapon, did not belong to his daughter, but to the dutchman.
During the morning, homicide personnel of Divicri again investigated Hotel TAC of Miraflores, and this time they concentrated on the documentation the Dutchman could have left behind. The police gathered the various payment stubs and also contacted the neighbors to talk to the personnel of the Mini Market. There, the police found out that the Dutchman bought two cups of coffee at 8:00 am on Sunday, returned to the hotel, went up to his room, and returned with only one cup of coffee to pay for 2 late days, and it was 8:25. At 8:45 he left with a black backpack and a brown suitcase in his hand. They never saw him again.

Now the two anchors (male + female) comment: “Now here we have the declaration of Elton Garcia, the Albanian, Uruguayan-nationalized citizen that to clarify what happened with Stephany Flores. There are a couple of important questions, for instance he was asked when he first met Stephany Flores. He says that “I met her during the first week of May 2010 during the night when I was playing poker in the Fiesta Casino on Avenida Benavides”. After that they ask him “About how many times have you played poker with her”. He says that he played with her approximately 4 times, in the Casino Atlantic City and Fiesta on Benavides Avenue, and he also says that while he was in his room, the police went to his room when it had already been made public that the death, when it was alreado known where the crime scene was.

The Police went to his room to look for him when the death of Stephany was already known , when the crime scene also was known, the police came to look for him in his room so that he could go view the body and – as I said – he didn’t want to do that. “They made me look at a photograph of the dead girl and I recognized her, she was Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez.

Female: this poker friend of Stephany’s and van der Sloot’s was surprised because he had not seen them for a couple of days. During an event – I think – where a group of players met, and they had not been there. So he worries much (the male anchor interrupts her)
And all he says coincides perfectly with what he tells the police.

Receptionist Adelia Aobad Marchena, who is exactly the person who – worried, because nobody answers the phone call to the room after 2 days, is the person who after 2 days enters the room with a second key (copy)… enters and finds Stephany’s body and here, she gives details of how she found the room, she says for instance “the light was on, the TV was on with normal volume, there was a pair of cloth slippers, the bed was totally unmade, all the clothes, a whole bunch of clothing – she says – everything on the floor. She turned to the right and saw….well…the body of Stephany. Very frightened she went closer and saw that it wasn’t a man’s but a woman’s body. Well and…there are several other details that we already know. Anyway, he registered May 14th and disappeared without anyone seeing him at the hotel.

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I know I didn't get Dimicri or Divicri right but too tired to go search for the right spelling now. Nite nite!

Mohabi
06-09-2010, 01:06 AM
Absolutely!

I'll do the article...Mohabi, would you mind doing the video when you're back? I can try, but my hearing with videos online isn't as good - tv is much easier - especially trying to translate. I'll do my best...but I don't mind doing the article.

Anything you want....you got it :) but....anything else will have to wait until tomorrow night. This woman has to make a living!

TravelingBug
06-09-2010, 01:14 AM
http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/490019/ciudadano-albanes-acompano-joran-van-der-sloot-competencia-poker

Here's the article:

Ciudadano albanés acompañó a Joran van der Sloot en competencia de póker

Albanian Citizen accompanied Joran van der Sloot to the Poker Tournament


El ciudadano albanés Elton García (35) compartió mesa de juego con la joven Stephany Flores y su presunto asesino, el holandés Joran van der Sloot, en una competencia internacional de póker que se llevaba a cabo en nuestra capital.

The Albanian citizen Elton Garcia (35) shared a gaming table with Stephany Flores and her alleged murderer, Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, in an international Poker competition that took place in our capital.

García, nacionalizado uruguayo, se hospedaba desde mayo en el mismo hotel que Van der Sloot y donde fue hallada la joven Stephany. La policía lo citó a declarar en la Dirincri en el marco de las investigaciones para esclarecer el homicidio ocurrido el domingo.

Garcia, a Uruguay national, had been staying in the same hotel as van der Sloot and where the girl, Stephany was found, since May.

De acuerdo con su declaración, García no sabía nada del holandés desde el pasado fin de semana y decidió ir en su búsqueda la noche del martes 1 de junio. Esa noche lo buscó en el hotel Atlantic City y posteriormente fue al hotel Tac donde una empleada le dijo que en la habitación de Van der Sloot la policía había halado el cadáver de una joven.

According to his statement, Gracia knew nothing about (or from) the Dutchman since last weekend and decided to go and search the night of Wednesday June 1st. That night, he looked in the Atlantic City hotel (a name of a hotel; not the city) and later went to the TAC Hotel where an employee told him that police had found the body of a young woman in van der Sloot's room.

La policía lo interrogó en el lugar y le mostró una foto del cadáver que confirmó que se trataba de Stephany. Además, indicó, reconoció en las cámaras de seguridad del hotel a Joran ingresando con la joven Flores.

The police questioned him there [at the hotel] and showed him a photo of the body which he confirmed was that of Stephany. In addition, he indicated that he recognized Joran leading the Flores girl on the hotel security cameras.

Sobre la presunta apuesta de US$5.000 que habría perdido jugando póker con Stephany, Eliot García n o dijo nada pero aseguró que la hija del automovilista Ricardo Flores ganó S/. 2.000 en el juego de azar a comienzos de mayo.

Garcia had nothing to say as far as about the alleged $5000 USD that he reportedly lost playing poker with Stephany. He did say that Stephany, daughter of Ricardo Flores the automobilista (sorry, can't think of the English word! :blushing: motorist?) had won 2000 sols (about $700 USD) gambling in early May.

marmar
06-09-2010, 11:25 AM
I found this article already translated on another site, but will post link here anyway if you want to translate for accuracy on the snippets I posted (in english) on the other thread.

http://www.larepublica.pe/el-asesinato-de-stephany/09/06/2010/desayuno-con-frialdad-pensando-en-como-deshacerse-del-cuerpo

Sailor Bug
06-09-2010, 12:02 PM
Please translate this article. Part of it has been translated
It appears Stephany spoke with her Father by way of telephone
It also appears that Stephany emailed a Friend after 3:20 AM

** My point why would Stephany need to look at Joran's computer at all for any search when she had her own mode of communication/possible search engine...I'm trying to find out what Stephany carried ie blackberry etc**

TIA

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/490131/...30-anos-carcel

Hours before his death, the young Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) shared the last moments of life with his close friends and college classmates, Carola Gallo Sanguinetti and Carolina, according to a report from the Dirincri.

The document says Stephany left home at 3 pm Saturday May 29 in his truck to pick up Carol in San Isidro. With it went to a hotel on the block 41 of the Paseo de la Republica, in Miraflores, where he remained until 11:30 pm, he arrived Carolina.

An hour earlier, 10 p.m. Saturday, Stephany was communicated by telephone with his father Ricardo Flores "rifle" and said he was coming home late. Then the three girls went to the pub El Gringo de Barranco, where they remained until 2:30 am 30 May.

At that time are removed from the site. Stephany is home to Carolina Gallo in Chacarilla (Furrow), a few blocks from her home, while Carola Sanguinetti left on Avenida Las Begonias (San Isidro).

On parting, 3:20 am, Stephany Carola lies to tell him to go to his house when in fact headed to Atlantic City Casino Miraflores. Her friend Carol, who had just left, he called five minutes later, but Stephany did not answer. Just sent a text message that says "I'm going up the stairs to get to my bedroom."

The Dirincri Stephany stated that her friend lied because he did not like to attend the casinos for his fondness for gambling. In the casino, Stephany met Joran van der Sloot, who had had previous meetings by an international poker competition. Along with him was the Albanian Elton Garcia, who was staying at the hotel like Joran Tac.

Wings Of Light
06-09-2010, 12:25 PM
I've really taken a liking to Google Wave:

If anyone is interested, I've set up a wave to keep track of translations.

https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+ldV6EhoSD

Anyone can edit the wave, add articles that need translating, or link to translations they've made and posted here. I will try to do all of that myself anyways.

Kristy
06-09-2010, 02:10 PM
Could someone be so kind to translate the conversation between the official and Joran. What does Joran say in Spanish?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfjw5S7KaHk

KR2tonenow
06-09-2010, 03:34 PM
I've really taken a liking to Google Wave:

If anyone is interested, I've set up a wave to keep track of translations.

https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+ldV6EhoSD

Anyone can edit the wave, add articles that need translating, or link to translations they've made and posted here. I will try to do all of that myself anyways.

This is awesome, thanks!

Mohabi
06-09-2010, 04:24 PM
Please translate this article. Part of it has been translated
It appears Stephany spoke with her Father by way of telephone
It also appears that Stephany emailed a Friend after 3:20 AM

** My point why would Stephany need to look at Joran's computer at all for any search when she had her own mode of communication/possible search engine...I'm trying to find out what Stephany carried ie blackberry etc**

TIA

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/490131/...30-anos-carcel

Hours before his death, the young Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) shared the last moments of life with his close friends and college classmates, Carola Gallo Sanguinetti and Carolina, according to a report from the Dirincri.

The document says Stephany left home at 3 pm Saturday May 29 in his truck to pick up Carol in San Isidro. With it went to a hotel on the block 41 of the Paseo de la Republica, in Miraflores, where he remained until 11:30 pm, he arrived Carolina.

An hour earlier, 10 p.m. Saturday, Stephany was communicated by telephone with his father Ricardo Flores "rifle" and said he was coming home late. Then the three girls went to the pub El Gringo de Barranco, where they remained until 2:30 am 30 May.

At that time are removed from the site. Stephany is home to Carolina Gallo in Chacarilla (Furrow), a few blocks from her home, while Carola Sanguinetti left on Avenida Las Begonias (San Isidro).

On parting, 3:20 am, Stephany Carola lies to tell him to go to his house when in fact headed to Atlantic City Casino Miraflores. Her friend Carol, who had just left, he called five minutes later, but Stephany did not answer. Just sent a text message that says "I'm going up the stairs to get to my bedroom."

The Dirincri Stephany stated that her friend lied because he did not like to attend the casinos for his fondness for gambling. In the casino, Stephany met Joran van der Sloot, who had had previous meetings by an international poker competition. Along with him was the Albanian Elton Garcia, who was staying at the hotel like Joran Tac.


Please do not take this as an attack, but I believe the reason for this thread was to provide correct human translation vs. translation-engine generated, incorrect results ?

As seen in the above quote, the translation engine can't handle gender and can't handle logical sentence structure.

For instance: "Her friend Carol, who had just left, he called five minutes later, but [B]Stephany did not answer." or how about this one: " In the casino, Stephany met Joran van der Sloot, who had had previous meetings by an international poker competition. Along with him was the Albanian Elton Garcia, who was staying at the hotel like Joran Tac"

I think it's hard enough to keep the reported facts straight without having to deal with "engine failure".

I'm sure to get flak for this :)

Patty G
06-09-2010, 09:43 PM
Please translate, at your convenience, the contents of the video. Thank you.

http://www.larepublica.pe/node/271311/01#fotos

TravelingBug
06-09-2010, 09:58 PM
Please do not take this as an attack, but I believe the reason for this thread was to provide correct human translation vs. translation-engine generated, incorrect results ?

As seen in the above quote, the translation engine can't handle gender and can't handle logical sentence structure.

For instance: "Her friend Carol, who had just left, he called five minutes later, but [B]Stephany did not answer." or how about this one: " In the casino, Stephany met Joran van der Sloot, who had had previous meetings by an international poker competition. Along with him was the Albanian Elton Garcia, who was staying at the hotel like Joran Tac"

I think it's hard enough to keep the reported facts straight without having to deal with "engine failure".

I'm sure to get flak for this :)

No flak at all!

There's no comparison! The auto ones have been horrendous - but if people would rather do computer ones, then that's fine...I just know that at least the two of us who can translate don't mind, and it sure helps with accuracy :)

TravelingBug
06-09-2010, 11:20 PM
In case this hasn't been posted already:

The first absurrd version of the crime that Joran Van der Sloot told to the Chilean police

such a liar!

original version in Spanish http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/492278/van-der-sloot-conto-increible-version-crimen-stephany-flores-policia-chilena


Joran Van der Sloot contó una increíble versión del crimen de Stephany Flores a la policía chilena

Joran van der Sloot told an incredible (unbelievable) version of the crime against Stephany Flores to the Chilean Police

Miércoles 09 de junio de 2010 - 02:47 pm

La versión que el asesino confeso de Stephany Flores, Joran van der Sloot, contó a la policía chilena sobre lo que ocurrió el día del crimen de la joven, se asemeja más a un guión cinematográfico que a la confesión que hizo a los efectivos de la Dirincri hace dos días.

The version the accused murderer of Stephany Flores, Joran van der Sloot, told Chilean police about what occurred on the day of the crime against the young woman was more like a screenplay than a confession.

Según informó el programa “24 Horas”, el 3 de junio último durante su detención en Chile, el holandés aceptó ante la policía de ese país que conoció a la hija del empresario Ricardo Flores en un casino miraflorino y que fue con ella a su hotel, pero no confesó haberla asesinado.

According to the program "24 Hours," on the 3rd of June, during his detention in Chile, the Dutchman admitted to the police that he met the daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores at a casino and that he went with her to the hotel, but did not confess to killing her.

¿ASALTO EN HOTEL?

Assault in the Hotel?

Sobre cómo la conoció dijo: “Ella se sentó en una mesa y empezó a hablarme, quería que le enseñe a jugar, me dijo que su padre tenía dinero, que estaba estudiando y que no estaba interesada en los chicos”.

As far as how he said he met her: "She was sitting at a table and began talking to me, wanting to show me how to play. She told me her father had money, that she was a student, and that she wasn't interested in boys."

Respecto a lo que pasó la fatídica noche del 30 de mayo contó: “Ya estábamos en su auto cuando fuimos detenidos por un coche blanco con dos hombres dentro, tenían uniforme de la policía y escudos (...) nos metieron a su coche y nos empezaron a pedir dinero”, continuó.

In regards to what happened on the fateful night of May 30th, he said: "We were in the car when we were stopped by a white car with two men inside. They had police uniforms and badges...they put us in their car and began to ask for money" he continued.

La parte más increíble de su historia tiene que ver con lo que ocurrió en su cuarto de hotel, donde fue hallado el cadáver de Flores.

The most incredible (unbelievable) part of his story had to do with what occurred in his hotel room, where they found the body of Flores.

Según narró, cuando llegaron a su habitación encontraron a un hombre en la cama, quien tenía una pistola en la cintura, y que otro sujeto salió del baño con un cuchillo. Agregó que uno de ellos golpeó a la joven en la cara.

He said that when they arrived at the hotel room, they found a man in the bed who had a pistol in his belt and another man came out of the bathroom with a knife. He said that one of them hit the young woman in the face.

¿Quiénes eran esos sujetos? Según habría dicho el holandés, sus atacantes eran los mismos supuestos policías que le pidieron dinero en el camino.

Who were they? According to what the Dutchman said, the alleged attackers were the same policeman that asked them for money on the street (in the car).

Ya en días anteriores periodistas de Estados Unidosy Aruba que siguieron el caso de su presunta anterior víctima, Natalee Holloway, señalaron que el holandés está acostumbrado a cambiar de versión constantemente y que lo mismo ocurrió cuando fue investigado aquella vez.

In previous days, journalists from the US and Aruba who have followed the case of his alleged previous victim, Natalee Holloway, said that the Dutchman is used to (in the habit of) constantly changing the version of his stories and that the same thing happened when he was investigated the other time.

TravelingBug
06-09-2010, 11:27 PM
Please translate, at your convenience, the contents of the video. Thank you.

http://www.larepublica.pe/node/271311/01#fotos

I'll bump this up for Mohabi since I have a hard time with audio online.

If she's not got time soon, I'll get headphones and try and see if I can hear better that way.

MaraSleuth
06-10-2010, 12:02 AM
Another one:

http://www.larepublica.pe/sociedad/0...ot-se-suspende

KR2tonenow
06-10-2010, 12:58 AM
Peruvian daily Peru.21 (http://peru21.pe/noticia/492129/confesion-van-der-sloot-seria-falsa). respectively please translate this video.

TravelingBug
06-10-2010, 01:23 AM
So tired that I'm not rereading this to proof so hopefully it's ok!


Another one:

http://www.larepublica.pe/sociedad/0...ot-se-suspende

That link just took me to the main page, but this was the article I found that I'm guessing you may have wanted?

FBI niega haber entregado dinero a van der Sloot para detenerlo

FBI denies having given money to van der Sloot

Mié, 09/06/2010 - 18:00

Aunque se dijo que Joran Van der Sloot, acusado del asesinato de Stephany, recibió $ 25 mil del FBI para tenderle una trampa y detenerlo por extorsión, se aclara que el dinero fue de fondos privados y no de fuentes policiales.

Although it's been said that Joran van der Sloot, accused murderer of Stephany Flores, received $25,000 (USD) from the FBI in an attempt to trap and arrest him for extortion, it's been clarified that the money was from private fund (accounts) and not from police sources.

Lo que sí trascendió fue que el holandés recibió ese dinero de otra persona, con el cual se financió el viaje a Lima.

Apparently what transpired is that the Dutchman received this money from another person, with which he then financed his trip to Lima.

Según un comunicado del FBI, aclaran que las versiones de prensa, que "han sugerido que el FBI proporcionó 25 mil dólares
en fondos que fueron transferidos a van der Sloot", es incorrecto, pues señalan que los fondos involucrados fueron fondos privados.

According to an FBI statement, they are clarifying the press reports that "have suggested that the FBI provided $25,000 in funds to be transferred to van der Sloot," and say they are incorrect, and then point out that the funds involved were all private funds.

Van der Sloot, de 23 años y que también es sospechoso de haber asesinado a la estadounidense Natalee Holloway en Aruba en 2005, contactó con la madre de ésta y le ofreció información sobre la desaparición de su hija a cambio de 25.000 dólares, señala el diario New York Post.

Van der Sloot, 23 years old, is also suspected of killing the US student, Natalee Holloway, in Aruba in 2005. He contacted her mother and offered information about the disappearance of her daughter in exchange for $25,000 USD, according to the newspaper the New York Post.

La familia Holloway se puso en contacto con agentes de la Oficina Federal de Investigaciones (FBI) de EE.UU., que decidieron darle el dinero y tenderle una trampa para detenerle, señala este diario que explica que sus fuentes le relataron que "entregaron el dinero a Van der Sloot el 10 de mayo en Aruba".

The Holloway family was in contact with FBI agents from the US and decided to give the money and set up a trap to stop him. According to this newspaper (the NY Post), sources said that "van der Sloot was given the money on May 10 in Aruba."

"Cuatro días más tarde voló a Perú, donde presuntamente asesinó a Stephany Flores", de 21 años, en la habitación de un hotel en Lima, agrega el diario.

"Four days later he flew to Peru, where he allegedly murdered 21 year old Stephany Flores" in the room of a Lima hotel, according to the report.

El diario agrega que el holandés "pudo viajar porque los agentes federales no presentaron inmediatamente cargos en su contra ni tampoco pidieron que fuera detenido en Aruba, incluso cuando se alertó de que podría abandonar el país".

The newspaper added that the Dutchman "was able to travel because federal agents didn't immediately have a charge against him, nor were they asked to detain him in Aruba, even when warned he might leave the country."

El periódico neoyorquino agrega que esa situación ha enfurecido a la familia Holloway, a quien las autoridades al parecer habían comunicado que "le iban a detener antes de que se fuera de Aruba",

The paper also says that the situation has infuriated Holloway's family, who authorities had stated that "they would stop him before he left Aruba."

"Van der Sloot se llevó 15.000 dólares mediante una transferencia y 10.000 dólares en efectivo, y se fue a Perú a jugar al póquer", señalaron al Post sus fuentes.

Van der Sloot got 15,000$ in the (wire) transfer and 10,000$ cash and went to Peru to play poker, according to what sources told the Post.

A principios de junio, la prensa local informó de que Van der Sloot había sido acusado de intento de extorsión en Birmingham (Alabama), pues habría tratado de exigir un pago de 250.000 dólares a cambio de información sobre el lugar donde se encuentra el cadáver de Holloway.

At the beginning of June, local media reported that van der Sloot had be accused of the intent to commit extortion in Birmingham (Alabama). He would have required a payment of 250,000$ USD in exchange for information about the place where Holloway's body had been placed. .

Como se recuerda, el holandés estuvo con la joven peruana Stephany Flores Ramírez, de 21 años, el pasado 30 de mayo en un casino y horas más tarde la joven apareció muerta en un hotel de la capital peruana.

As far as we know, the Dutchman was with the young Peruvian woman, Stephany Flores Ramirez, 21, on May 30th in a casino, and only hours later she was found dead in a hotel in the Peruvian capital.

Van der Sloot viajó a Chile el 31 de mayo y fue detenido en ese país el 3 de junio, tras ser acusado en Perú de haber asesinado a Flores Ramírez, hija del conocido corredor de autos y empresario de ese país Ricardo Flores, "Riflo".

Van dear Sloot traveled to Chile on May 31 and was detained there on June 3rd after being accused in Peru of killing Flores Ramires, daughter of the famous race car driver and business man, Ricardo Flores, "Rifle"

TravelingBug
06-11-2010, 01:43 AM
This article the defense claims JVDS is sorry and stable and clever:

http://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&sourceid=ie8-activity&u=http%3A%2F%2Felcomercio.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493001%2F defensa-joran-van-sloot-pedira-declarar-nula-investigacion-policial

Here's a human translation versus the computer one above:


Defensa de Joran van der Sloot pedirá declarar nula la investigación policial

Joran van der Sloot's Defense asked for the police investigation to be declared invalid

Jueves 10 de junio de 2010 - 09:04 pm

La defensa legal de Joran van der Sloot presentó ante el Poder Judicial una acción de hábeas corpus con la intención de declarar nula investigación policial en la que el ciudadano holandés confesó haber asesinado a la joven estudiante Stephany Flores.

Joran van der Sloot's legal defense appeared before the judiciary with a writ of habeas corpus, with the intention of requesting a declaration of the police investigation of the Dutchman null (void/invalid) in regard to his alleged confession of murder of the young student Stephany Flores.

Así lo hizo saber el abogado de Van der Sloot, Máximo Altez, quien denunció que los derechos de su patrocinado fueron vulnerados por la Policía al ponerle un abogado sin ser consultado durante los interrogatorios.

According to the lawyer for Van der Sloot, Maximo Altez, the client's rights were taken away and violated by police when they questioned him without an attorney being consulted during the interrogations.

En diálogo con la prensa, Máximo Altez indicó que su patrocinado se encuentra contrariado por la manera en que los medios de comunicación informan sobre el crimen que ha conmocionado al país.

Speaking to the press, Maximo Altez indicated that his client is disappointed with the way in which the media reports information about the crime which has shocked the country.

“No es como lo dicen, él se siente arrepentido”, contó el abogado para después afirmar que Joran van der Sloot es una persona psicológicamente estable y bastante astuto, como lo demuestra en sus juegos de póquer.

"It's not like they say, he is a repentant (or sorry) person," says the lawyer, who then says that Joran van der Sloot is a psychologically stable person and quite clever (or astute), as demonstrated in his poker games.

Esta mañana, el asesino confeso de Stephany Flores fue trasladado de la Dirincri a la carceleta del Ministerio Público y se espera que en las próximas horas sea recluido en un penal de Lima.

This morning, the accused murderer of Stephany Flores was transferred from the holding cells of the public ministry and in the next few hours is expected to be confined to a prison in Lima.

De acuerdo con fuentes del Ministerio Público, la fiscal Espinoza denunciaría al holandés por homicidio calificado, cuya pena máxima es de 35 años de prisión.

According to sources from the public ministry, the maximum penalty for homicide that the Dutchman may face is 35 years in prison.

Patty G
06-11-2010, 01:53 AM
Brand new video of Joran leaving the room. When you have time would you translate the video OR validate the article to what the reporter is indicating. Thanks in advance.

http://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&sourceid=ie8-activity&u=http%3A%2F%2Felcomercio.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493043%2F joran-van-der-sloot-simulo-como-coartada-no-tener-llaves-cuarto-donde-asesino-stephany-flores

nums24
06-11-2010, 01:58 AM
Please translate this article regarding robbery motive, which could mean a life sentence:

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-10/ontractualidad1094463.html


THANK YOU!!!!

nums24
06-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Here is an article related to other people being charged and JVDS jailmates, can someone PLEASE translate at your convenience.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/493277/joran-van-der-sloot-ya-esta-detenido-carceleta-palacio-justicia

Thank you!

TravelingBug
06-11-2010, 07:26 PM
Here is an article related to other people being charged and JVDS jailmates, can someone PLEASE translate at your convenience.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/493277/joran-van-der-sloot-ya-esta-detenido-carceleta-palacio-justicia

Thank you!

Público le gritó "¡extranjero asesino!" y le arrojó basura a Joran van der Sloot

Public shouted, "Foreign(er) murderer!" and threw trash at Joran van der Sloot

Viernes 11 de junio de 2010 - 12:35 pm

A punto de ir a prisión. Joran van der Sloot, el confeso asesino de Stephany Flores, fue trasladado en una ambulancia a la carceleta de Palacio de Justicia en medio de fuertes medidas de seguridad y gran cantidad de periodistas.

About to go to prison, Joran van der Sloot, the confessed murderer of Stephany Flores, was transported by an ambulance to the holding cells at the Palace of Justice, amid heavy security and a large group of journalists/reporters.

La medida fue tomada luego que el Poder Judicial ordenara su detención en un centro de reclusión del Instituto Nacional Penitenciario (INPE), que será el penal de máxima seguridad Castro Castro.

The move came after the judicial power gave an order for his detention at a detention center at the National Penitentiary Institute (INPE), which is the maximum security prison.

Según fuentes del INPE, Joran van der Sloot estará en el mismo pabellón en dicho centro de reclusión que el ex alcalde Coronel Portillo, Luis Valdez , y el sicario colombiano Alejandro Trujillo Ospina , principal sospechoso del asesinato de Myriam Fefer . Su traslado al presidio se produjo hace unos instantes.

According to sources from INPE, Joran VDS will be in the same area of the detention center as the former mayor, Coronel Portillo, Luis Valdex, and the Columbian hit man Aljeandro Trujillo Ospino, principal suspect in the murder of Myriam Fefer. His transfer to prison happened a few moments ago.

OTROS DETENIDOS
El ciudadano holandés se encontraba en una ambulancia con otros detenidos cuando fue trasladado desde la sede de Ministerio Público hasta Palacio de Justicia. De todos ellos, era el único que no llevaba una manta en la cabeza para no cubrir su rostro.

OTHER DETAINEES
The Dutchman was in an ambulance with other prisoners (detainees) when he was transferred from the public ministry to the palace of justice. Of all of these, he was the only one who wasn't wearing a blanket on his head to cover his face.

Fue allí que el público le empezó a gritar “¡extranjero asesino¡” y arrojarle basura al ciudadano holandés.

It was there that the public began to shout "foreign murderer!" and throw trash at the Dutchman.

El juez Juan Buendía, del Juzgado Penal de Turno Permanente de la Corte de Lima, encausó al holandés, de 22 años, como presunto autor de los delitos de homicidio calificado y contra el patrimonio, en la modalidad de hurto simple.

Judge Juan Buendia of the court of Lima indicted the 22 year old Dutchman on suspicion of homicide, crimes against property, and theft.

De acuerdo con la ley, esos delitos se castigan con penas de entre 15 y 35 años de prisión.

According to the law, these crimes are punishable with 15-35 years in prison.

TravelingBug
06-11-2010, 08:43 PM
Please translate this article regarding robbery motive, which could mean a life sentence:

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-10/ontractualidad1094463.html


THANK YOU!!!!

No, it's about the crimes before and after her death.


La vio ganar 28 mil soles y decidió matarla

He saw her win 28,000 soles and decided to kill her

Por E. Cirilo
Harto de retirarse de los casinos como un perdedor, el holandés Joran van der Sloot (23) decidió robar todo su dinero a Stephany Flores (21), desde el día en que la vio ganar más de 28 mil soles en una partida de póker.

Instead of leaving the casino as a loser, the Dutchman, Joran VDS (23) decided to steal all of the money, 28,000 soles, he had seen Stephany Flores (21) win in a poker game

A esta conclusión llegaron los detectives de la Dirincri, tras culminar las investigaciones del homicidio de la hija del corredor de autos Ricardo Flores.

This is the conclusion that the detectives from Dirincri came to at the end of the investigation of the murder of auto racer Ricardo Flores' daughter.

Los agentes averiguaron que la víctima jugaba póker en diversos casinos de Miraflores. Y el 24 de mayo, seis días antes de su muerte, ganó 28 mil 400 soles en el casino 'Atlantic City'. La madrugada del 30 de mayo, cuando fue asesinada, también había ganado. Dos días antes su padre le había dado mil dólares.

The investigators learned that the victim was playing poker in various Miraflores casinos. And, on the 24th of May, six days before her murder, she won 28,400 soles at the Atlantic City casino. On the morning of May 30th when she was killed, she had also won. Ten days before, her father had given her a thousand dollars.

Por eso, los detectives suponen que Joran, quien asistió al casino 'Atlantic City' desde el 14 de mayo, seleccionó a Stephany para robarle su dinero.

Because of this, the detectives believe that Joran, who had been visiting the Atlantic City casino since the 14th of May, selected Stephany in order to rob her of/steal her money.

Para los investigadores, el asesino confeso llevó con engaños a la joven al hotel donde se hospedaba. A las 5:10 de la mañana del domingo 30 de mayo, ambos se retiraron del casino y se fueron en la camioneta de la chica, de placa A1b-533.

According to the investigators, the accused murderer lured/enticed the young girl to the hotel where he was stay. At 5:10 in the morning on Sunday the 30th of May, they both left the casino and went in the girl's car, license plate A1b-533.

El extranjero dice que atacó a la joven porque la vio revisando su Laptop, pero los agentes afirman que la golpeó presumiblemente para despojarla de su dinero, pero ante la reacción de Stephany, que se defendió, la golpeó en la cabeza y le hizo perder el conocimiento. En el suelo la agarró a puñetazos y golpeó la cabeza contra la pared, para luego apretarle el cuello. Al percatarse que aún respiraba, la asfixió con su propia camisa.


The stranger/foreigner said that he attacked the girl because he saw her revising his laptop, but agents presume that it was to steal her money. On the floor, he grabbed her fists and hit her head against the wall and squeezed her neck. When realizing she was still breathing, he strangled (choked) her with her own shirt.

Consumado su crimen y con total sangre fría, intentó borrar la evidencias y se cambió de ropa. Incluso, pensó en desaparecer el cuerpo. A las 8:45 de la mañana fugó del hotel llevándose dinero en efectivo, las tarjetas bancarias y la camioneta de la occisa.

After finishing his crime and being totally cool, he tried to cover up the evidence and change his clothes. He also thought about trying to hide the body. At 8:40 in the morning he left the hotel taking money (cash), bankcards, and the vehicle of the deceased.

Su plan era abordar un avión y por eso se dirigió al aeropuerto 'Jorge Chávez', pero como vio policías se arrepintió y tomó un taxi que lo llevó hasta Ica. Al taxista le pagó el servicio con mil 500 soles, le regaló un reloj Ferrari, una cámara fotográfica, celular, perfumes y prendas de vestir.

His plan was to board a plane and so he went to Jorge Chavez airport but when he saw police he changed his mind and took a taxi to Ica. He paid 1500 soles and gave a gift of a Ferrari watch, a camera, cell phone, perfume/cologne, and clothing.

En el atestado policial se acusa al holandés por el presunto delito contra el patrimonio y robo agravado subsecuente de muerte. Fue puesto a disposición de la Fiscalía.

In the police report the Dutchman is accused of crimes against property, aggravated robbery subsequent to death. It was made available by (or to?) the prosecutor.

nums24
06-11-2010, 08:48 PM
Here is a new article about a possible 3rd charge against JVDS:

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-11-holandes-van-der-sloot-podria-ser-juzgado-por-un-tercer-delito-noticia_271692.html

TravelingBug
06-11-2010, 09:21 PM
Here is a new article about a possible 3rd charge against JVDS:

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-11-holandes-van-der-sloot-podria-ser-juzgado-por-un-tercer-delito-noticia_271692.html

Holandés Van der Sloot podría ser juzgado por un tercer delito

Dutchman VDS could be tried for a third charge

El abogado de la familia se Stephany Flores, Edward Álvarez, consideró que dentro del proceso judicial contra el ciudadano holandés, éste puede ser acusado por un tercer delito por haberse llevado la camioneta, que en su interior se pudo hallar elementos que pudieran servir para las investigaciones.

Edward Alvarez, lawyer for the family of Stephany Flores, is considered in the judicial proceedings against the Dutch citizen if it is possible for him to be accused of a third crime for taking the van (of Stephany's) the interior of which may have elements that could be useful for the investigation.

'Creo que debe haber un tercer delito que debe comprender. Este señor se llevó la camioneta y la dejó abandonada en otro lado, al interior de la camioneta de repente habían cosas o algún elemento que pudiera servir para la investigación y este señor al dejarla abandonada lo hizo con una intencionalidad de que esa evidencia desaparezca. Ahí hay un encubrimiento real, un tercer delito', subrayó.

"I think a third offense should be considered. This man took the van and abandoned it. The interior of the van had things that could be useful for the investigation and this man abandoned the van with the intention of disposing of evidence. There's a cover up, which is a third charge," he emphasized.

En otro momento, Álvarez rechazó la hipótesis de que el extranjero atacó a la joven Stephany Flores porque la encontró revisando su lap top.

At another time Alvarez dismissed the hypothesis that the stranger/foreigner attacked the young woman, Stephany Flores, because he found her on his laptop. **Sorry, this makes no sense to me - I even ran it through a machine translation, but it was generally the same...either we're equally lost, or it's an error in the original article, which is certainly possible...as it doesn't fit at all what's in the next paragraph.

Asimismo, sostuvo que la información de la lap top del holandés aportará en las investigaciones ya que pueden surgir nuevas evidencias que permitan esclarecer los hechos. 'Se comenta que la lap top tendría información del crimen que habría cometido en Aruba', agregó el abogado.

He argued that the information on the Dutchman's laptop may assist the investigation and could provide new evidence that sheds light on the facts of the case. "It's said the laptop may have information about the crime that was committed in Aruba," the lawyer added.

seagull65
06-11-2010, 10:51 PM
is it okay to post this one here? (Natalee case). I wasn't sure where we can post these, I'm not requesting a translation right now, just looking for where to put it :) Thanks! (But if anyone knows where to see these segments with English subtitles, that would be great :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89_SKZaHiU

In Parts 4 through 8, three experts are analyzing Joran's "balcony" confession/story. One of the analysts (a polygrapher) summarizes his findings in English in this segment 8/8, but all of the segments seem interesting. (If you click on the Youtube logo in the lower right of the box to watch the video, you will have the other segments available in the margin.)

TravelingBug
06-12-2010, 12:39 AM
is it okay to post this one here? (Natalee case). I wasn't sure where we can post these, I'm not requesting a translation right now, just looking for where to put it :) Thanks! (But if anyone knows where to see these segments with English subtitles, that would be great :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89_SKZaHiU

In Parts 4 through 8, three experts are analyzing Joran's "balcony" confession/story. One of the analysts (a polygrapher) summarizes his findings in English in this segment 8/8, but all of the segments seem interesting. (If you click on the Youtube logo in the lower right of the box to watch the video, you will have the other segments available in the margin.)

You absolutely can post it - I'm hoping Mohabi or someone else comes in that can do video easier. I have a hard time hearing video online and then to translate, as well, really can take forever. Print is easier for me....but if she's not back I'll add this to the videos needed list! If you find relevant articles, though, I'd do those right away for you! :)

twall
06-12-2010, 04:37 AM
Please translate article-TIA!

Saturday June 12, 2010 - 12:21 am

The confession of Joran van der Sloot: "I took her by the neck and strangled" << title of article, scroll down the page to find it

http://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&sourceid=ie8-activity&u=http%3A%2F%2Felcomercio.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493043%2F joran-van-der-sloot-simulo-como-coartada-no-tener-llaves-cuarto-donde-asesino-stephany-flores

TravelingBug
06-12-2010, 03:08 PM
Please translate article-TIA!

Saturday June 12, 2010 - 12:21 am

The confession of Joran van der Sloot: "I took her by the neck and strangled" << title of article, scroll down the page to find it

http://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&sourceid=ie8-activity&u=http%3A%2F%2Felcomercio.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493043%2F joran-van-der-sloot-simulo-como-coartada-no-tener-llaves-cuarto-donde-asesino-stephany-flores

Here's the correct link to the article http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/493708/confesion-joran-van-der-sloot-tome-cuello-estrangule

La confesión de Joran van der Sloot: “La tomé por el cuello y la estrangulé”

The confession of Joran VDS: "I took her by the neck and strangled her"

En el testimonio que brindó a la policía por el homicidio de la joven Stephany Flores Ramírez, Joran van der Sloot confesó haber asesinado a la hija del automovilista Ricardo Flores en la habitación 309 del hotel Tac en la que se hospedaba.

In the testimony given to police in the investigation in the murder of the girl, Stephany Flores Ramirez, Joran VDS confessed to killing the daughter of motorist Ricardo Flores in room 309 of the Hotel TAC where he was staying.

Según el noticiero “90 Segundos”, la manifestación fue ofrecida por el ciudadano holandés en presencia de una abogada de oficio y con la ayuda de un traductor que le trasladó las preguntas de las autoridades en su propia lengua.

According to the news show/program "90 Seconds," the Dutchman gave an account in the presence of legal counsel and with the help of a translator who translated the authorities questions into his own language.

De acuerdo con su narración, él y Stephany ingresaron a su habitación cerca de las 5.30 a.m. del día 31 de mayo después de jugar en el casino Atlantic City. Según contó, a Stephany se le ocurrió que podían jugar póker en Internet y por eso fueron a su cuarto.

According to his account of events, he and Stephany entered his room about 5:30 am on the 31st of May after gambling in the Atlantic City casino. He said that it occurred to Stephany that they could play poker online and so they went to his room.

En ese momento –contó- recibió un correo que decía “te voy a matar mongolito”, el cual se refría al asesinato de Natalee Holloway, la joven estadounidense a quien se le acusa de haber asesinado en Aruba en el año 2005.

At that time, he said, he received an email that said, "i'll kill the mongolito," which he said referred to the murder of Natalee Holloway, the young American girl who he was accused of killing in Aruba in 2005.

A continuación, Van der Sloot le habló a Stephany sobre el caso y le contó que lo habían detenido por ese delito. Ella –siempre según Joran- tuvo una fuerte reacción y le dio un golpe de puño en el lado izquierda la cabeza. El holandés asegura que reaccionó con el codo y la golpeó dejándola “medio desmayada”.

VDS spoke to Stephany about the case and told her he had been arrested/detained in that case. She, according to Joran, reacted strongly, punching him on the left side of his head. The Dutchman said he responded/reacted with his elbow, causing her to "almost faint."

Asegura además que la reacción de Stephany le afectó tanto que la tomó por el cuello con las dos manos y “la estrangulé por espacio de un minuto”.

He also says that the reaction of Stephany affected him so much that he took her by the neck with both hands and "strangled her for about a minute."

Después, Joran van de Sloot abandonó el hotel en la camioneta de Stephany, pero tras dejar el vehículo estacionado en Surco, abordó un taxi que lo llevó a Ica y otro rumbo a Arica. Según su testimonio, a ambos taxistas les contó que lo estaban acusando equivocadamente de asesinar a una persona.

After that, Joran VDS left the hotel in Stephany's truck, but then left the vehicle parked in Surco, and hired a taxi to take him to Ica and another to Arica. According to his testimony, he told both taxi drivers he had been falsely accused of killing someone.

FLNY
06-13-2010, 01:26 PM
Can someone please translate this article and what is said in the video? It's about VDS's entry into prison. Thank you!

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/vea-primeros-minutos-joran-van-der-sloot-carcel

TravelingBug
06-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Can someone please translate this article and what is said in the video? It's about VDS's entry into prison. Thank you!

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/vea-primeros-minutos-joran-van-der-sloot-carcel

Vea los primeros minutos de Joran van der Sloot en la cárcel

Watch the first minutes of Joran VDS in jail

El ciudadano holandés Joran van der Sloot fue trasladado el pasado viernes al penal de máxima seguridad Miguel Castro Castro, tras confesar que asesinó a la joven peruana Stephany Flores el 30 de mayo.

The Dutchman, Joran VDS, was transferred this past Friday to the maximum security prison Castro Castro after confessing that he murdered the young Peruvian girl, Stephany Flores, May 30th.

Las cámaras de “Reporte Semanal” registraron el ingreso del europeo en dicho centro de reclusión. Flanqueado por varios agentes penitenciarios y acompañado por el propio jefe del Instituto Nacional Penitenciario (INPE ), Rubén Rodríguez Rabanal, Van der Sloot fue llevado a su celda personal.

The cameras from "Weekly Report" recorded the arrival of the European into the detention center. Flanked by several prison agents and accompanied by the head of the National Penitentiary Institute (INPE), Ruben Rodriguez Rabanal, VDS was taken to his own (personal) cell.

La celda del confeso asesino mide tres por dos metros y medio, con un lavandero, un silo y un colchón, aunque él ha preferido dormir en el suelo. Fue revisado por médicos del INPE y su número de ficha es 326390. Puede hablar español y no necesita traductor.

The confessed murderer's cell measures three by two metres with a laundry (sink), a silo (I believe meaning like a pit in the ground) and a mattress, though he preferred to sleep on the floor. He was reviewed (looked over) by INPE medical personnel and his number is 326390. He can speak Spanish and doesn't need a translator.

“Soy sospechoso de homicidio”, declaró al ser consultado por reporteros de dicho programa. Después, se negó a responder más preguntas.

"I accused of murder," he declared to reporters from the program. After that he refused to respond to more questions.

CON SICARIO
En una de las imágenes, se aprecia que el sicario colombiano Alejandro Trujillo Ospina, presunto asesino de la empresaria judía Myriam Fefer, entra a la celda de Joran van der Sloot. Inmediatamente, Trujillo Ospina fue retirado del lugar.

In one image we see the Colombian hit man Alejandro Trujillo Ospina (alleged murder of the Jewish businesswoman Myriam Fefer) enter Joran van der Sloot's cell. Immediately Trujillo Ospina was taken out of there.

Van der Sloot dijo sentirse mal de la cabeza y que no había probado alimentos en dos días.

VDS said that he felt bad/sick in the head (I think that means he had a cold) and that he had not tasted food in two days.

nums24
06-14-2010, 06:57 PM
PLEASE!!!!
Here is a .pdf of JVDS confession, I know it's a lot, but can someone please translate:

http://images2-telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00730/Jorans_bekentenis_730395a.pdf

Thank you!


I found a translated version of the confession here: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/joran-van-der-sloots-confession-read-entire-document-here

FLNY
06-15-2010, 11:42 AM
Can anyone please translate the video of the interview with Stephany's father contained in this article?

http://www.periodismoenlinea.org/201006076881/Actualidad/Ricardo-Flores-penso-emplazar-a-holandes-en-Pucusana-por-asesinato-de-su-hija.html


Thank you!

21merc7
06-22-2010, 05:33 PM
O/T sort of.

PattyG is looking for the video of the hotel tac employee speaking, the one that found Stephany, about finding her. Since only you guys here speak Spanish, anyone have it?

Thanks in advance, very much, if you do!

otto
07-27-2010, 12:10 PM
This series of videos was posted in the discussion thread. Several posters were upset because the videos are all in Dutch and they (nor do I) don't understand the language. Any translation help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Salem


Ok, so in this video with Joran and his chums (Thailand) one girl asks:
'how long do we have to dance' ... Answer: 'oh 6-8-10 hours a day', and
the men laugh, Joran laughs, the girls laugh disagreeably but one calls
out (hi voice) "OH! NO WAY!"..........

What is that episode all about? I dont see the people politely seated
reading The Psalms. This is no church group, no tea party on the lawn.

Why is Joran there in this video at all? Is he there doing research
for his Masters in *Third World Economics hopinh for an appointment
to the Aruban Dept of Commerce?

Innocence is, as Innocense does!

:innocent:

You may find it helpful to watch then entire documentary. Nancy Grace has replayed the same short segment many times, but there is much more to the story. Here are parts 1-5 of the entire program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPt5-2TmB9E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asgOpFBzDhk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMsVurKYBwo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUVCYwEZlHY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcqvoGDhUc8&feature=related

Enjoy!