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Filly
08-10-2010, 11:31 PM
A Reading PA woman is being held on 5 mill bail. A fetus and an infant remains were found in a cooler in the closet of Michelle Kalina.

Just saw this on the news and caught the tail end of it. I'm not real sure how they got to go look in this lady's apartment. Also she is some kind of civil servant. I think. Have to read more of it.


http://www.ldnews.com/news/ci_15730352


O.K. someone she lives with called the law. Kalina is 44 years old. Some of this link is a little gruesome IMO. Just so you guys know.


http://www.wfmz.com/berksnews/24577389/detail.html

Lovejac
08-11-2010, 01:00 AM
A Reading PA woman is being held on 5 mill bail. A fetus and an infant remains were found in a cooler in the closet of Michelle Kalina.

Just saw this on the news and caught the tail end of it. I'm not real sure how they got to go look in this lady's apartment. Also she is some kind of civil servant. I think. Have to read more of it.


http://www.ldnews.com/news/ci_15730352


O.K. someone she lives with called the law. Kalina is 44 years old. Some of this link is a little gruesome IMO. Just so you guys know.


http://www.wfmz.com/berksnews/24577389/detail.html


The woman who lives in the apartment, Michele Kalina, 44, was arrested yesterday in the area of 6th and Spruce streets, outside Reading Hospital. She was committed to the Berks County Jail on $5 million bail.

Adams said Reading police originally got a call on the night of July 29 from someone who lived with Kalina. They responded for the report of "biological remains of unknown origin

OMG, thank God the roommate called! How disturbing. The other link stated that the babies were estimated to be a 5 month old FETUS and 1 month old BABY.

If you miscarried at 20 weeks gestation, why would you keep it????

Rest in peace little ones.

Lovejac
08-11-2010, 01:10 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100810_Remains_of_children_found_in_cooler_in_wo mans_home.html

she is a home health care aide

Beyond Belief
08-11-2010, 01:22 AM
This is really wierd.

SonoViva
08-11-2010, 03:23 PM
New here, so I'm not sure if this is exactly what you guys are looking for, but I saw this story on the news and I was sickened. The Lisbeth Salander in me came out and I just had to know more.

She has a Facebook profile. Seems to have mostly online friends and plays a lot of time wasting games. Mentions God a lot, is strongly against animal cruelty (ironically). She tries to present herself as a rather nice person who doesn't have dead human babies in a cooler in her closet. I can't imagine playing FarmVille and all that, knowing you have BABIES in your CLOSET! What the hell?
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Michele Kalina's Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1585088294&ref=ts

cluehunter
08-11-2010, 03:36 PM
Wonder if her 18 y/o daughter was the one who called

Filly
08-11-2010, 04:39 PM
New here, so I'm not sure if this is exactly what you guys are looking for, but I saw this story on the news and I was sickened. The Lisbeth Salander in me came out and I just had to know more.

She has a Facebook profile. Seems to have mostly online friends and plays a lot of time wasting games. Mentions God a lot, is strongly against animal cruelty (ironically). She tries to present herself as a rather nice person who doesn't have dead human babies in a cooler in her closet. I can't imagine playing FarmVille and all that, knowing you have BABIES in your CLOSET! What the hell?




Welcome Lisbeth Salander.;)

Ya know I can't find a maiden name for this person. However, it shows up they have lived in Philly.

On the news I saw them knocking on that apaprtment door and thought "Well how many people do they have staying in there?"

Hey, quite a huge change between her mugshot and FB photo, right? If we had a maiden name maybe we could find out more.

fhc
08-11-2010, 05:22 PM
New here, so I'm not sure if this is exactly what you guys are looking for, but I saw this story on the news and I was sickened. The Lisbeth Salander in me came out and I just had to know more.

She has a Facebook profile. Seems to have mostly online friends and plays a lot of time wasting games. Mentions God a lot, is strongly against animal cruelty (ironically). She tries to present herself as a rather nice person who doesn't have dead human babies in a cooler in her closet. I can't imagine playing FarmVille and all that, knowing you have BABIES in your CLOSET! What the hell?



:Welcome-12-june:

LadyL
08-11-2010, 07:37 PM
from her FB:

"Beauty fades but dumb is forever. " Judge Judith Schendlin

how ironic is that?

LadyL
08-11-2010, 07:53 PM
Adams said Reading police originally got a call on the night of July 29 from someone who lived with Kalina (http://www.wfmz.com/berksnews/24577389/detail.html)

um, ok I think much more can be learned from the husband

SonoViva
08-12-2010, 12:02 AM
Welcome Lisbeth Salander.;)

Ya know I can't find a maiden name for this person. However, it shows up they have lived in Philly.

On the news I saw them knocking on that apaprtment door and thought "Well how many people do they have staying in there?"

Hey, quite a huge change between her mugshot and FB photo, right? If we had a maiden name maybe we could find out more.



Indeed there is a large change between the mugshot and profile picture. But the face is turned kind of down on FB so I can't discern if that chillingly hollow look has formed behind the eyes yet (obviously a very old pic.)

Lovejac
08-12-2010, 01:11 AM
Wow, how ironic. She is talking smack about Karla Holmolka on her FB page.


Michele Kalina I just saw a movie about this on tv and it made me so sick. I believe in judging people by the circumstances, but she had no reason to participate, other than to keep some sicko bast happy. I mean, who was she trying to protect or help? She killed her own sister for Godsakes.
July 10 at 11:40pm

athy
08-12-2010, 01:18 AM
yikes this was only about 3 blocks from where i use to live in Reading. i use to walk by the place on the way to the store.

Filly
08-12-2010, 02:07 AM
yikes this was only about 3 blocks from where i use to live in Reading. i use to walk by the place on the way to the store.

Get out. Hey, she lived in Philly so who knows I may have walked past her house or something at one point.:eek:



O/T Athy don't you miss Wawa?

Filly
08-12-2010, 02:25 AM
Good lookout on the maiden name. It just may be that. I'm checking archives.

A friend of Kalina's is defending her. Michelle took care of her mother who had Alzheimer's and she was wonderful.

Kalina has not always had it easy. She had a disabled son who died several years ago and it was very tough on her.

This may be totally out there, but there are people with this name who have a child with a very rare disease. They are in that immediate area. It is not this woman, but it made me wonder. Again they may have no relation. Possibly her disabled son had something genetic? Maybe those babies did?

No way am I defending this woman. Just sharing what I found sleuthing.

Lovejac, Honkola? For real? You find all the information we miss. Danka.



Link to the defending friend.

http://www.wfmz.com/berksnews/24601892/detail.html

SonoViva
08-12-2010, 03:01 AM
Wow, how ironic. She is talking smack about Karla Holmolka on her FB page.

She also said at one point that she was gonna go clock the super for not fixing the AC in the building. She then proceeded to say, "Would you come visit me if they lock me up?? LOL." I wonder what the woman she said that to is thinking now. And Filly, this crazy chick lived in Philly? So do I. *shudder*

SonoViva
08-12-2010, 03:06 AM
Get out. Hey, she lived in Philly so who knows I may have walked past her house or something at one point.:eek:



O/T Athy don't you miss Wawa?

O/T response...Wawa is just amazing.

Filly
08-12-2010, 04:42 AM
O/T response...Wawa is just amazing.




:DIT's what we live on, right?:dance:Our corner store.;)

Yep, records show she has lived in Philadelphia at one time. Closest thing we have to her recently was that nutter Doctor in West who was providing abortions and well I can't even go into it. Lunatic.

SonoViva
08-12-2010, 03:21 PM
Another dead baby has been found in Kalina's closet. The investigator said that it would be foolish "to narrow it down to just Mrs. Kalina," a choice of words I take to mean that they are also investigating her husband. Good call, he has to know something. Any theories on this yet, guys? Were they hers or did she kill other people's children?

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/More-Infant-Remains-Found-In-Reading

SonoViva
08-12-2010, 03:29 PM
Link to Chief Investigator's quote here: http://m.philly.com/phillycom/pm_21405/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=wQ7l7BB4

Posted from my iPhone, so it's the mobile site.... Don't know how to reformat the link. It goes to 404 when I sub the m for www.

LaWanda
08-12-2010, 03:33 PM
I read some of Jeff's discussions on the "Bipolar" wall. Wow.

Wonder if the babies belonged to the 18 yr old?

Belinda
08-12-2010, 03:37 PM
What is it with the women stashing dead babies around their houses? This is becoming far too common. Makes you wonder just how many people have babies stashed in their houses that haven't been discovered. Pretty darn creepy.

SonoViva
08-12-2010, 03:43 PM
I read some of Jeff's discussions on the "Bipolar" wall. Wow.

Wonder if the babies belonged to the 18 yr old?

Yeah, I've read them. Poor guy. I'd like to think he didn't have anything to do with it, but how could he not? He lived there too. But it was him and the daughter that called police. Have to wonder what brought that on.

Snackcakes66
08-12-2010, 09:40 PM
Was looking at her court history, it seems Michele has had a few bad check charges, 1995, 2002, and 2003 theft by deception, receiving stolen property. Lots of traffic/parking violations. ( I do NOT want to park in Berks Co., they seem to love expired meters) No drug charges. Wondering out loud if finances were a factor, like can't afford another mouth to feed. One of the links alludes they're not done looking, makes me think they should be looking at other places they've lived. Filly, did you see where in Philly she lived?

SunnieRN
08-12-2010, 10:40 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100810_Remains_of_children_found_in_cooler_in_wo mans_home.html

she is a home health care aide

Shades of Nancy Garrido. Wonder if we will hear what a good worker she is?

Husband had to know imho as she would have shown by 5 months.

Also, I would bet facebook pic is of their daughter. This woman looks very very ill.

cluehunter
08-13-2010, 12:11 AM
What is it with the women stashing dead babies around their houses? This is becoming far too common. Makes you wonder just how many people have babies stashed in their houses that haven't been discovered. Pretty darn creepy.

I was thinking the same thing. Since when did babies become so disposable. I know there are a disturbing news stories reported every day, but this one gets to me. I have three little boys, including a 1 year old. I just can't imagine.

Lovejac
08-13-2010, 12:18 AM
Another dead baby has been found in Kalina's closet. The investigator said that it would be foolish "to narrow it down to just Mrs. Kalina," a choice of words I take to mean that they are also investigating her husband. Good call, he has to know something. Any theories on this yet, guys? Were they hers or did she kill other people's children?

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/More-Infant-Remains-Found-In-Reading

:eek: What....... :eek: is this in addition to the two they already found???

Off to read now.

ETA: Good Lord, I hope they have checked every single closet in that house. And this one was in concrete..WTF

athy
08-13-2010, 12:38 AM
Get out. Hey, she lived in Philly so who knows I may have walked past her house or something at one point.:eek:



O/T Athy don't you miss Wawa?

oh god yes i do along with philly cheese steaks and also, don't know if you know of them but panzarottis. it may be more of a NJ thing...around camden county area. i miss wawa coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! i like that better than dunkin donuts or starbucks.

athy
08-13-2010, 12:43 AM
Was looking at her court history, it seems Michele has had a few bad check charges, 1995, 2002, and 2003 theft by deception, receiving stolen property. Lots of traffic/parking violations. ( I do NOT want to park in Berks Co., they seem to love expired meters) No drug charges. Wondering out loud if finances were a factor, like can't afford another mouth to feed. One of the links alludes they're not done looking, makes me think they should be looking at other places they've lived. Filly, did you see where in Philly she lived?

Reading has parking meters every where. if you park in front of your house you have to feed the meter during the day. its only free after 6 pm until 7 or 8 am forget which and on weekends. so i can see how she got those tickets easily. i know i had a few. you also get one if you don't move your car on the day they come by and clean the street which is once a week.

cluciano63
08-13-2010, 01:10 AM
Was someone performing abortions here or what? I am lost...

SonoViva
08-13-2010, 02:37 AM
Shades of Nancy Garrido. Wonder if we will hear what a good worker she is?

Husband had to know imho as she would have shown by 5 months.

Also, I would bet facebook pic is of their daughter. This woman looks very very ill.

Judging by the clothes and the Winnie the Pooh costume, I'd say this is from the early 90s. I'm kind of a Disney World freak, but Winnie looks different now. And it is WDW, the table in the background is in the Crystal Palace in the MK.

She does look terrifyingly insane, which I guess has happened over time.

To the poster who said finances may be an issue, the husband has been ill, on oxygen for years as a reaction to a bipolar medication. He didn't work for their child's entire lifetime, as evidenced by his FB occupations. I would say a family of three living on a health care aide's salary is totally undoable.

SonoViva
08-13-2010, 02:45 AM
Did anyone ever read "The Face on the Milk Carton?" That couple kidnapped a baby because they couldn't have one of their own. My theory: she goes crazy when her son dies and kidnaps and murders babies because hers is gone. Why else would she encase a baby in concrete?? So no one could find it.

Or less dramatically, some cultures encase the dead in concrete before burial. So these remains could have come from a graveyard. She hears about a young child that died on the news, goes to the cemetery and digs them up to "save" them. I had a Science teacher in middle school who it was rumored kept dead animals in a freezer to save them.

I once thought they were biologically hers, but now there's three. That theory is becoming less likely.

SonoViva
08-13-2010, 04:58 AM
Sorry to spam this thread, but I think I missed my calling big time. Or I read too many Harlan Coben, Mary Higgins Clark, etc. novels. But she posted this on someone's Facebook.

"Michele Kalina You are so right. Who cares how many women this man slept with and how his wife is acting. There is so much more important stuff to worry about, like some poor man whose mother did not have enough money to bury him or people who can't pay their rent. Not someone's over indulgence. We need to focus on real problems in this world"

Don't know if she's referring to herself or not, but an odd example nonetheless.

Filly
08-13-2010, 04:31 PM
Was looking at her court history, it seems Michele has had a few bad check charges, 1995, 2002, and 2003 theft by deception, receiving stolen property. Lots of traffic/parking violations. ( I do NOT want to park in Berks Co., they seem to love expired meters) No drug charges. Wondering out loud if finances were a factor, like can't afford another mouth to feed. One of the links alludes they're not done looking, makes me think they should be looking at other places they've lived. Filly, did you see where in Philly she lived?


Yep, it took me awhile to find where they had lived Snack's.

Well at least it says the husband lived there. It was under his name. Apartment up on Woodhaven Road. Found that in one of them PDA files.

That lady who said she knew MK because she took care of her mother when she had Alzheimer's, right? She said the Kalina's had a son who died and she was devastated by it. I looked on Legacy.com and Obit finders and can't find anything for a young person with that last name. I realize not all folks get obits, but I wonder does that lady know for certain there truly was a son? She said she saw a picture. Michelle Kalina always carried a picture around of the son.

Hey, y'all know I don't trust anyone. You can show me a photo and tell me it's your millionaire husband. It's very sad, but I got way jaded from having a lunatic live directly next door to me. ******Note when somebody keeps constantly drawing attention to something and you have nver asked it's a sure bet they are lying their hinney off. My old neighbor constantly would tell me how wonderful how her husband was doing down in Florida. She'd produce photos of him tan and buff. I never gave a flip. Got my own business to deal with. All along the dude was in prison. I could care less as long he didn't hurt kids. Obviously it bothered her pathologically lying self to run out in the yard with a picture going "See, look at Jim. Don't he look good? He's making so much money in Florida it's worth it we don't see him for a year"************** Yeah, yeah turned into five years or so and when he left the baby was a few months old. Heck, he supposedly came home to visit often and we all just happened to miss him.

Point being maybe Michelle Kalina didn't have a son? Maybe it was a diversion from the remains in her closet? Maybe they better go check that apaprtment up on Woodhaven Road.

SonoViva
08-13-2010, 05:02 PM
He wrote it about a month ago in a response to a girl saying she didn't remember what she did the night before. Apparently, the daughter didn't remember doing this. I don't know, this case just hit close to home when I heard this psycho had a daughter and a bipolar husband. The love of my life grew up in a crazy family that abused her and neglected her and she's been through so much just to get over it. I really am praying for the daughter. Shaving her head, my God! That's a cry for help/attention.

Filly
08-13-2010, 05:17 PM
He wrote it about a month ago in a response to a girl saying she didn't remember what she did the night before. Apparently, the daughter didn't remember doing this. I don't know, this case just hit close to home when I heard this psycho had a daughter and a bipolar husband. The love of my life grew up in a crazy family that abused her and neglected her and she's been through so much just to get over it. I really am praying for the daughter. Shaving her head, my God! That's a cry for help/attention.


SV, I am so very sorry your loved one has suffered. She is very Blessed to have you in her life now. I'm very glad she is working through it. It's almost uncomprehensable to us folks that have no idea just how wicked life can be.

It's really weird that the dad would relay something almost directly related ya know? The closet? Organizing. Maybe it was a way for this lady to control her poor DD?

One has to wonder who lives in that apartment in Philly up on Woodhaven?

Filly
08-13-2010, 05:45 PM
oh god yes i do along with philly cheese steaks and also, don't know if you know of them but panzarottis. it may be more of a NJ thing...around camden county area. i miss wawa coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! i like that better than dunkin donuts or starbucks.


Panzarottis. I call them inside outs. ;) We used to get them somewhere on Oregon Avenue. I'm not Italian, but dated plenty of them.:dance: Wawa cofee is addicting. BTW, I had Tony Luke's twice this week. Roast Pork.

I know this a serious, serious thread, but sometimes we throw something out there to take away from the devastating nature of the crime to keep our own sanity.

Agreeing with SonoViva this lady looks waaaaay out there including her and Winnie. I wouldn't get on her bad side.

Meanwhile I know the Mr. hasn't been employed due to illness. However, I'm finding in Berks County a center there where a person by that exact name is the peer counselor. Unfortunately there is a Medical Doctor by the same name as his, but this isn't a Doctor. It's in a PDF file which I don't open as they slow down my computer. I googled his name and Berks County.

Snackcakes66
08-13-2010, 06:50 PM
One has to wonder who lives in that apartment in Philly up on Woodhaven? If they knew they'd probably be tearing the place apart looking, I would. Waiting to see where else they search. Gotta get the sharp provolone on Tony Luke's sandwiches, haven't been in awhile, maybe next week.

cluehunter
08-13-2010, 10:34 PM
From a Bipolar message board Jeffrey Kalina posted on on FB:


How do you find their posts beyond what's visible on their walls?

cluehunter
08-13-2010, 10:39 PM
Also, I just checked her FB page and she's been playing that silly fortune cookie game. Isn't she in jail?

SonoViva
08-14-2010, 02:51 AM
How do you find their posts beyond what's visible on their walls?

It is on their walls! It will say "so-and-so posted in [insert topic] on a certain message board."

SonoViva
08-14-2010, 02:55 AM
Panzarottis. I call them inside outs. ;) We used to get them somewhere on Oregon Avenue. I'm not Italian, but dated plenty of them.:dance: Wawa cofee is addicting. BTW, I had Tony Luke's twice this week. Roast Pork.

I know this a serious, serious thread, but sometimes we throw something out there to take away from the devastating nature of the crime to keep our own sanity.

Agreeing with SonoViva this lady looks waaaaay out there including her and Winnie. I wouldn't get on her bad side.

Meanwhile I know the Mr. hasn't been employed due to illness. However, I'm finding in Berks County a center there where a person by that exact name is the peer counselor. Unfortunately there is a Medical Doctor by the same name as his, but this isn't a Doctor. It's in a PDF file which I don't open as they slow down my computer. I googled his name and Berks County.

He mentioned on the bipolar boards that he is a peer counselor for other people diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Seems like an alright guy, but it is possible he could play a major part in this.

kirsty
08-14-2010, 04:07 AM
how are you getting all this information on her FB page?

Filly
08-14-2010, 11:53 AM
He mentioned on the bipolar boards that he is a peer counselor for other people diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Seems like an alright guy, but it is possible he could play a major part in this.

Or he could have been totally unaware?:waitasec: Difficult to believe, but ya never know. Otherwise one would think there'd have been another arrest.

This is the facility he peer counseled. It looks to be a significantly decent establishment and no doubt helps alot of people up in their area.


http://www.berkscc.org/about_us.php



Meanwhile it's bugging me exactly who those babies belonged to. It's bugging me I can't find mention of the death of their son. Also, it appears they are originally from Reading, but moved to Philadelphia and then moved back. It's looking like it is the husbands family that have the Philly origins as the matriarch lived here. Did they have secrets in their apartment in Philadelphia? Did this lady carry these bodies from city to city? We know from that lousey Ira Einhorn that a person can keep a corpse in their closet for years. May Holly be resting in peace.

My elderly mom weighed in on this. She thinks perhaps Kalina carried out abortions for people. I highly doubt that. Considering it is safe and legal now and my mom is thinking back to her days when many neighborhoods had their own person you went to for an abortion. We're talking the 40's and 50's though on that one.

Only time will tell I guess. I've been thinking of their poor DD. I hope she is getting the help she needs.

SonoViva
08-15-2010, 03:26 AM
Filly, I hope those involved are getting help for the daughter as well.

Thanks for the kind words re: my partner. She really is amazing, but probably one in a million who ended up okay after what happened to her. Which is why I truly hope the Kalina girl gets help from friends, family, anyone.

Lovejac
08-15-2010, 09:49 PM
http://www.wfmz.com/news/24632984/detail.html

Im so glad they checked and even MORE glad that they didn't find any more babies :eek:


Crews with the Berks County District Attorney's Office searched the former Muhlenberg Township home of Michele Kalina Saturday morning. Investigators said no evidence of human remains was found.

Kalina, 44, is being held in Berks County prison, after police said they found three sets of human remains in her apartment in the 700 block of Court Street in Reading.

Lovejac
08-15-2010, 09:53 PM
WOW, everything you wanted to know about Michele Kalina and THEN some.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=241752

Filly
08-15-2010, 10:22 PM
WOW, everything you wanted to know about Michele Kalina and THEN some.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=241752



Oh no, no. I want the neighbors she had in Philly to weigh in. Then again she probably kept to herself there as well.

O.K. we now know she:

1.) Sat on her step and drank beer

2.) Sometimes she was nice and sometimes she wasn't

3.) Her son died from positional asphyxiation

4.) She was always in a rush

How ya gonna be in a rush if you're having a beer on your step?

Still I can't find an obituary for her poor deceased son.

Heck, I'm real nice most of the time, but sometimes I'm not. What's that mean?

What is positional asphyxiation?

People rush all the time when they have to work their butts off, clean house, worry about their DD, and try and care for a husband.

The really telling part of the article is the neighbor kid saying she sat on the step for hours. Not a chair even. That got me because here people sit in the steps. Stoop. Whatever ya wanna call it. Drinking beer out on the step however is unladylike.

Lovejac
08-16-2010, 12:06 PM
Filly, you made me LOL!

It sounds like some of those neighbors really didn't have anything to add. Sometimes nice, sometimes not, hahahaha. Who isn't?!

Anyway, I'm curious why there is no death notice for her son, Andrew. He was 13 y.o. when he died.


Kalina's 13-year-old son, Andrew, died June 9, 2000, in that apartment as a result of positional asphyxiation, Hess said.

He said the death was ruled accidental.

Hess said Andrew Kalina suffered from cerebral palsy, a debilitating disease that rendered Andrew bed-bound.

doublestop
08-16-2010, 12:20 PM
According to the Social Security Death Index:
KALINA, ANDREW M 25 Aug 1986 09 Jun 2000 (P) 13 19602 (Reading, Berks, PA)

Maybe the family couldn't afford to pay for an obit?

SonoViva
08-17-2010, 01:37 AM
This article says it was both the husband and daughter who called the police. I guess the girl was determined to clean out that closet. The dad wouldn't have called the cops if he was in on it. He would have tried to initiate her into whatever the heck they had going on. God willing, they're both getting counseling.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=241877

Filly
08-17-2010, 01:43 AM
This article says it was both the husband and daughter who called the police. I guess the girl was determined to clean out that closet. The dad wouldn't have called the cops if he was in on it. He would have tried to initiate her into whatever the heck they had going on. God willing, they're both getting counseling.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=241877


This horrendous crime and the chaos that must have went on in that house makes me want to go sit on my step with a beer.

Still praying for this poor girl.

SonoViva
08-17-2010, 01:52 AM
This horrendous crime and the chaos that must have went on in that house makes me want to go sit on my step with a beer.

Still praying for this poor girl.

Haha! I know what you mean, I have a few cigs when a new story comes out about this. I just feel so bad for the dad and daughter. The most disturbing thing for me to think is that there were three days between the 911 call and the arrest for the police to determine if the bones were human. I can't imagine being sequestered in a small apartment with my mother who knows my dad and I called the police on her, after we now know she is most likely certifiably insane. I can't even imagine what the husband is going through either.

Filly
08-17-2010, 07:49 AM
Haha! I know what you mean, I have a few cigs when a new story comes out about this. I just feel so bad for the dad and daughter. The most disturbing thing for me to think is that there were three days between the 911 call and the arrest for the police to determine if the bones were human. I can't imagine being sequestered in a small apartment with my mother who knows my dad and I called the police on her, after we now know she is most likely certifiably insane. I can't even imagine what the husband is going through either.

What it would be like locked up with Mama? Man, I'd be sleeping with my Kalaboonga stick. Well, sleeping with one eye open.

In all seriousness the poor kid was probably paralyzed with fear. Doing that thing that removes you from the situation and takes you elsewhere in your mind.

SV, I don't have any beer. LoL I was referring to how that lady sat on the steps drinking beer. At the Phillies game oh yeah I have plenty, but not in the house.

However, I got ciggies. Virginia Slims. I love when guys on the street ask me for one and I give them a VS and they're like "WTH"?

Hoping we hear more on this soon.

Belinda
08-17-2010, 09:13 AM
However, I got ciggies. Virginia Slims. I love when guys on the street ask me for one and I give them a VS and they're like "WTH"?

Tee Hee! My SIL smokes these little tiny cigarettes. I can't for the life of me think of what they are called. Like half the circumference of a normal cigarette. I can only imagine the look she gets when someone borrows one. They are hysterical looking. I'm a good old-fashioned Marlboro Lights girl. And, yes, boy do these stories make me smoke.

ETA: It's Capri. They are too funny looking.

Snackcakes66
09-21-2010, 08:09 PM
No new info., just most recent article I could find. http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=244105 Mostly opinion. Looks like she might have been released 8/27 though the case is still active, not sure if the link will work http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJReport.aspx?district=MDJ-23-1-03&docketNumber=CR-0000257-10

JBean
09-21-2010, 08:37 PM
PLease do not link to FB's of family members.You may link to the FB of the target of the investigation
Please do not copy and paste any quotes from any FB comments. you can link to the suspect's FB and note the time of the comment, but do not copy it over here.
Thanks

JoeFromLB
10-25-2010, 11:44 AM
http://kdka.com/wireapnewsfnpa/Pa.mom.charged.2.1978966.html

Oct 25, 2010

PHILADELPHIA (AP) ― A Pennsylvania woman is being arraigned on homicide charges over five sets of infant skeletal remains found by authorities, several in her home.

Authorities say 44-year-old Michele Kalina is being arraigned Monday morning in Reading.

Filly
10-25-2010, 04:35 PM
Where's she get the boyfriend?

Five. Five babies.

Our news just reported she told her boyfriend she had an ovarian cyst when she started to show.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130812504

That's unbelievable.

Snackcakes66
10-25-2010, 06:36 PM
Good Lord, I started hearing 4, possibly 5 infants on KYW in my car, could not wait to get home to read the links. Then a 6th given up for adoption in 2003, thank the dieties that baby lived. I wonder why that one got to live, like did someone find out she was pregnant.

One thought is after 8 pregnancies that we know of, 2 with hubby, 6 with the boyfriend had she ever considered contraception. I can't fathom making babies just to kill them. Or was that the purpose?

Angel4u2Whisper2
10-25-2010, 06:45 PM
I am going to toss something out there totally off the wall, but hey what about this story isn't? What if she continued to get pregnant and "lose" the babies (the method to be determined) so that she can grieve the loss of her son? Each time she grieved the connection that she didn't allow herself to have too much of to ease the unresolved grief and horror that she perhaps held back. She may have put off her loss of her first son due to overworking and caring for her disabled husband..but the pain never left her? She attempted to resolve that pain by reinactments and regrieving her other children?

At first I thought maybe that she was hiding the affair, but she sucessfully gave up a child from this union (affair) for adoption without any awarness from her husband..so I don't know..Sad, senseless too bad she didn't get help sooner. The children whose life she stolen deserved so much better!..Rest In Peace babies! :rose:

JoeFromLB
10-26-2010, 01:51 AM
http://readingeagle.com/REnetImages/2010/10/26/19221040/500x500_19146820.jpg

Kalina initially was charged on Aug. 9 with abuse of a corpse, following the discovery of remains in a closet of the family's Court Street apartment.

Following a 2 1/2 month investigation, Kalina was charged additionally with a blanket charge of criminal homicide in the five deaths.

Adams (Berks County District Attorney) said that prosecutors will determine before trial the number of homicide counts. Homicide could include murder or manslaughter.

Kalina was arraigned Monday before District Judge Wally Scott on the homicide and related charges. She was returned to Berks County Prison without bail.

nomoresorrow
10-26-2010, 10:01 PM
I just heard about this story on HLN's this evening and this is just unreal! I'm anxious to hear if they find that MK actually asphyxiated her 13-year-old son who had cerebral palsy back in 2000...?? Angel4u2Whisper2, I wondered the same thing but I'm also wondering, IF she did kill her 13-year-old son, perhaps she found some kind of pleasure and/or power in it (as sick as that is) - the power to give life and take it away...just a thought. Any thoughts on whether or not she'll win an insanity defense? IMO, something's obviously wrong in her head but her effort to conceal/hide the bodies shows me that she knew right from wrong!

Angel4u2Whisper2
10-27-2010, 06:29 AM
I just heard about this story on HLN's this evening and this is just unreal! I'm anxious to hear if they find that MK actually asphyxiated her 13-year-old son who had cerebral palsy back in 2000...?? Angel4u2Whisper2, I wondered the same thing but I'm also wondering, IF she did kill her 13-year-old son, perhaps she found some kind of pleasure and/or power in it (as sick as that is) - the power to give life and take it away...just a thought. Any thoughts on whether or not she'll win an insanity defense? IMO, something's obviously wrong in her head but her effort to conceal/hide the bodies shows me that she knew right from wrong!

Thank you. I didn't know about the son being in question. ITA if that is a possiablity then I too wonder about the theory you pose! Again, IMO, ITA with what you said about hiding the bodies shows she knew it was something "wrong" and needed to be hidden from consequence or judgement.

I will sit and wait for more information and this seems so unusal and complicated...we will wait together. Nice to meet you by the way.

mom2six
10-27-2010, 11:41 AM
I think the simplest explanation is that she just couldn't be bothered with the results of her affair. Her life was rather complicated, with a disabled son who died and a disabled husband. She just avoided dealing with the pregnancies and the babies and went on with her life. She had control over access to the bodies by keeping them at home under lock and key. Dumping them somewhere would have put her at risk of discovery. Look how long she successfully hid this!

carrie
10-28-2010, 10:58 PM
I think the simplest explanation is that she just couldn't be bothered with the results of her affair. Her life was rather complicated, with a disabled son who died and a disabled husband. She just avoided dealing with the pregnancies and the babies and went on with her life. She had control over access to the bodies by keeping them at home under lock and key. Dumping them somewhere would have put her at risk of discovery. Look how long she successfully hid this!


Not disagreeing with your theory as it is, sadly, probably pretty much what happened. I was thinking how much simpler it would have been for her and everyone else if she'd just have used some contraception. :furious:

Texas Mist
11-03-2010, 06:49 PM
Alleged Baby Killer Waives Hearing

Authorities are keeping Michele Kalina isolated from the general prison population
Updated 5:31 PM EDT, Wed, Nov 3, 2010

A Reading mother charged with killing at least four newborn children to cover up an extramarital affair appeared in court but waived her right to a preliminary hearing.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Reading-Mother-Waives-Hearing-in-Baby-Deaths-106643069.html

Filly
11-04-2010, 09:48 PM
Alleged Baby Killer Waives Hearing

Authorities are keeping Michele Kalina isolated from the general prison population
Updated 5:31 PM EDT, Wed, Nov 3, 2010

A Reading mother charged with killing at least four newborn children to cover up an extramarital affair appeared in court but waived her right to a preliminary hearing.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Reading-Mother-Waives-Hearing-in-Baby-Deaths-106643069.html

Keeping her isolated from GP? If they didn't there's a good chance she wouldn't make it to trial.

Still wondering who her boyfriend is.

Wills
11-06-2010, 12:58 PM
Still wondering who her boyfriend is.

This question has been driving me crazy. I too, lived in Reading, PA for over 25 years. Same neighborhood, we left in 2006. I am the exact same age as her husband, Jeffrey and know many of the people he graduated with. This story freaks me out enough and now I am sitting on pins and needles wondering if I will know the boyfriend!!!

I have spoken to several friends in that area and no one seems to know her (thank goodness, my one friend breaks into tears speaking about it). My neice said MK would occasionally come in where she works (Pizza Villa) to buy her beer. She never spoke but you could tell she wasn't quite right just looking at her. She said she looks exactly as she does in the current newspaper articles ~ crazy eyes!

My heart does go out to the daughter and husband and the unknown boyfriend/father, I hope they can survive all of this.

Snackcakes66
12-14-2010, 10:25 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/crime&id=7842840

LCoastMom
12-16-2010, 11:58 AM
Upon further investigation, detectives said Kalina's daughter also unknowingly threw out one of the sets of remains.

It was later found by a cadaver dog at the Conestoga Landfill in New Morgan.

Too awful for words.

Snackcakes66
05-06-2011, 07:11 PM
snip....A northeast Pennsylvania woman suspected of killing five newborns and keeping their skeletal remains in a locked closet has negotiated a plea...plea and sentencing June 2 more at link
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/crime&id=8116195

Filly
05-08-2011, 12:08 AM
snip....A northeast Pennsylvania woman suspected of killing five newborns and keeping their skeletal remains in a locked closet has negotiated a plea...plea and sentencing June 2 more at link
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/crime&id=8116195


Wow. Just wow.

The boyfriend and husband had no idea. Here's a question...........did this woman ever consider birth control? Why not?

Snackcakes66
08-04-2011, 05:50 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8288398

LadyL
08-04-2011, 06:49 PM
the link above comes up blank for me; here's another one:

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/crime/PA-woman-who-hid-baby-remains-sentenced

JoeFromLB
08-06-2011, 12:46 PM
That link is not working, either. How about this one?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/pennsylvania-mom-pleads-guilty-murder-baby-skeletons-found/story?id=14234414