View Full Version : Found Deceased CA-ANAHEIM – Where is Cindy Casteel Mathieu?
JBean
09-03-2004, 11:30 AM
Friday, September 3, 2004
Missing woman baffles family
The 42-year-old Anaheim mother was last seen Aug. 14.
By GREG HARDESTY
The Orange County Register
The 42-year-old mother of three has been missing for nearly three weeks, last seen by her husband walking up the stairs inside her apartment wearing a hot-pink bathing suit around midnight Aug. 14. DisplayAds("Top1,Middle!Middle","www.ocregister.com/local/local");http://rm.ocregister.com/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/default/empty.gif (http://rm.ocregister.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.ocregister.com/local/local/173750387/Middle/default/empty.gif/34343035303466623431333261353030)
Police say they have no reason to doubt Donald Mathieu's story that he has not seen his wife since she went to bed that Saturday night after a pool party at her 22-year-old daughter's house in Buena Park
Donald Mathieu said he is baffled by his wife's disappearance. He said his wife had gotten upset at the pool party and that she slept in the bedroom upstairs while he slept downstairs on a couch.
He said he noticed her missing the afternoon of Aug. 15 and made calls to relatives and friends. Casteel, he said, has left home in the past when upset, but she always has kept in touch by phone. "I still know nothing," Mathieu said Thursday. "We're still in the dark, just waiting and praying."
snorky
09-03-2004, 11:45 PM
Hmmmm. I hate to say it, but it always bothers me when someone goes missing when they are 'upset'. I couldn't get the link so I hope someone can post the article. It just doesn't add up IMO.
IdahoMom
09-04-2004, 12:03 AM
Here's a link:
http://anaheim.net/article.asp?id=591
AuntieKaren
09-04-2004, 02:55 AM
Here's a link:
http://anaheim.net/article.asp?id=591
Wow, Buena Park--that's awfully close to home. I sure hope Cindy is OK.
Karen
I have to say that when the first article about this woman appeared in our local paper I was so angry. After studying the Laci Peterson case for so many months, LE's lack of action in this case is very disturbing, IMO. I've never done this before but I wrote to the author of the article in the OC Reg. It took two weeks or so to get a reply and it was 'cops have no new leads.'.... What?
BTW....the first article was in the 'local' section page 4, headline, "Anaheim mother of 3 missing," subheadline...."Police don't suspect foul play but call the disappearance since Sunday 'very unusual." (This was Thurs)
The story:
On a Saturday,while attending a bday party, husband and wife got into an argument. They left their 6 year old son to spend the night and as they left the party, Cindy was crying. This was about midnite.
Monday, Cindy's employer, City of Anheim utilities dept., called police to report her missing.
The husband said when they got home they were still arguing so Cindy slept in the other room. ....oh, yeah....he claims he "Wished her 'sweet dreams,'" before she went to bed in the other room. When he got up Sunday morning, he just went about his day. (didn't check on her or anything???)
That night when Cindy didn't come home, he didn't think anything of it????
The husband claims she's left before but always called.
Apparently he just went to work on Monday as usual. He's a construction worker.
Now I ask you:
She was last seen in a hot-pink bikini bathing suit, nothing else????
She left her purse, keys, car, $$$, and a 6 year old son????
She was last seen (by other than husband) arguing with husband????
Husband does not report her missing nor apparently did he attempt to find her?????
IMO...this screams
"INVESTIGATE!!"
"SEARCH WARRANT FOR HOME!!!"
"SEARCH WARRANT FOR CAR!!"
"CRIME LAB, GET INVOLVED!!"
Anyway, I told the newsreporter that I thought this sounded like a possible 'criminal case' and no one seems interested. Sad.....
Just disappear off the face of the earth and no one cares.
JMHO
fran
Casshew
09-22-2004, 07:29 PM
Any updates on this story?
mrjbird7
11-22-2004, 08:18 PM
I am not satisfied at all with the work that the Anaheim Police Department Is doing. They seem to have a problem returning phone calls. They also seem to have an attitude that we are inconvieniencing them by asking for an update. I should not say it is the whole Department, either. A couple of the officers there seem to be genuinely concerned about Cindy and her well-being. God Bless those few.
In case you were wondering, I am the former husband of Cindy's. Jason Casteel. The father of her 18 year old son, Kalani, and the step-father of her 22 year old daughter, Sarah. I have just thrown my hat into the ring on this. So keep an eye out for some more information on this. As I will not rest until Cindy is brought home and we know what exactly happened on the morning of August 15, 2004.
Cindy, we are all praying for you and love you very much. Especially me and all of your wonderful children.
Please, if anyone knows anything at all about this, please let us know. It is killing us not knowing if she is alright or not.
Thank you for reading this.
JBean
11-27-2004, 03:37 PM
I am not satisfied at all with the work that the Anaheim Police Department Is doing. They seem to have a problem returning phone calls. They also seem to have an attitude that we are inconvieniencing them by asking for an update. I should not say it is the whole Department, either. A couple of the officers there seem to be genuinely concerned about Cindy and her well-being. God Bless those few.
In case you were wondering, I am the former husband of Cindy's. Jason Casteel. The father of her 18 year old son, Kalani, and the step-father of her 22 year old daughter, Sarah. I have just thrown my hat into the ring on this. So keep an eye out for some more information on this. As I will not rest until Cindy is brought home and we know what exactly happened on the morning of August 15, 2004.
Cindy, we are all praying for you and love you very much. Especially me and all of your wonderful children.
Please, if anyone knows anything at all about this, please let us know. It is killing us not knowing if she is alright or not.
Thank you for reading this.OMG, thank you so much for posting. Please let us know what is happening. there is never any information..anywhere and I was wondering how the family could be holding up with so little happening.
Our eyes and ears are always open on this forum......We won't give up either...
God Bless you Mr JB7
nanandjim
11-27-2004, 05:56 PM
Thank goodness that the ex-husband is getting involved. I am wondering if the current husband is actively pursuing his wife's disappearance with the police department. Or, do we have another Scott Peterson on our hands? Unfortunately, in most cases, the answer lies with the significant other.
I'd sure like to know what they were arguing about. It concerns me that Cindy was crying when they left. Was she crying because she was afraid of what would happen to her when she got home? It doesn't make sense that they would leave their small child behind. I can't see that this was Cindy's idea. However, I am not familiar with the individuals or the case.
AuntieKaren
11-28-2004, 07:00 AM
OMG, thank you so much for posting. Please let us know what is happening
Yes, please let us know of any updates. I check this thread periodically to see if Cindy has been located. So sad, especially for her 6 year old. Might I ask a favor? Could you please use a different font? It is very difficult to read and makes me dizzy. Thank you.
Karen
WasBlind
12-07-2004, 01:37 AM
Please contact me regarding the applications!
With love and HOPE for Cindy's safe return, Lanie
I am not satisfied at all with the work that the Anaheim Police Department Is doing. They seem to have a problem returning phone calls. They also seem to have an attitude that we are inconvieniencing them by asking for an update. I should not say it is the whole Department, either. A couple of the officers there seem to be genuinely concerned about Cindy and her well-being. God Bless those few.
In case you were wondering, I am the former husband of Cindy's. Jason Casteel. The father of her 18 year old son, Kalani, and the step-father of her 22 year old daughter, Sarah. I have just thrown my hat into the ring on this. So keep an eye out for some more information on this. As I will not rest until Cindy is brought home and we know what exactly happened on the morning of August 15, 2004.
Cindy, we are all praying for you and love you very much. Especially me and all of your wonderful children.
Please, if anyone knows anything at all about this, please let us know. It is killing us not knowing if she is alright or not.
Thank you for reading this.
mrjbird7
12-18-2004, 10:23 PM
December18,2004
As the holidays approach, most of us are happy and gleeful. Others are depressed and sad. I can assure you that Cindy's family is having happy thoughts and we are continuing to move forward in a positive direction. With all that has taken place this year, I am so very proud of the children. Especially Sarah, who has done incredible things in this early year of her adulthood.
We have quite a few things in the works, for our efforts to find Cindy. Most, I can't reveal, for obvious reasons. However, starting as soon as the end of this month, there will be much more news to share with you. I will be sharing anything that I can possibly be sharing with you, just as soon as it happens.
The one thing that I need is some attention. If I could ask you all for a small favor, I certainly would appreciate your efforts. Call, or drop your congressman an E-Mail, asking what is being done about this woman who, just disappeared? Come on. Also ask, what, if anything, is being done about all the other "missing" people across our great country. Why are missing citizens, such a low priority?
Call your local radio stations. The one I listen to, is KFI-640. I even E-Mailed John and Ken twice. You would think they would want to jump on something like this. I didn't even get a reply. I spoke to one of the producers in the news room. He said he was interested. He would have Jay Lawrence, their Orange County Reporter, call me back. Didn't happen.
I E-Mailed the Governor on Thanksgiving day. Well, that was over a month ago. I have yet to get a response from his office. Maybe the "Governator" is just too plagued with fan mail. I don't know. But I am feeling ignored, something that I am not used to.
So, if you can maybe call some of these people, newspaper, T.V., radio, any kind of media, and ask, 'what is going on? Doesn't anyone care?" Maybe we can get some attention.
I am not shy, whatsoever. I am quite willing to talk about this and enlist anyones help that I can get. If you feel the need, I can be reached through this forum. I will answer all.
Thank You All!! Keep in touch, there will be more to follow.
Cindy, I am sorry. Love, Jason
WasBlind
12-18-2004, 10:47 PM
December18,2004
As the holidays approach, most of us are happy and gleeful. Others are depressed and sad. I can assure you that Cindy's family is having happy thoughts and we are continuing to move forward in a positive direction. With all that has taken place this year, I am so very proud of the children. Especially Sarah, who has done incredible things in this early year of her adulthood.
We have quite a few things in the works, for our efforts to find Cindy. Most, I can't reveal, for obvious reasons. However, starting as soon as the end of this month, there will be much more news to share with you. I will be sharing anything that I can possibly be sharing with you, just as soon as it happens.
The one thing that I need is some attention. If I could ask you all for a small favor, I certainly would appreciate your efforts. Call, or drop your congressman an E-Mail, asking what is being done about this woman who, just disappeared? Come on. Also ask, what, if anything, is being done about all the other "missing" people across our great country. Why are missing citizens, such a low priority?
Call your local radio stations. The one I listen to, is KFI-640. I even E-Mailed John and Ken twice. You would think they would want to jump on something like this. I didn't even get a reply. I spoke to one of the producers in the news room. He said he was interested. He would have Jay Lawrence, their Orange County Reporter, call me back. Didn't happen.
I E-Mailed the Governor on Thanksgiving day. Well, that was over a month ago. I have yet to get a response from his office. Maybe the "Governator" is just too plagued with fan mail. I don't know. But I am feeling ignored, something that I am not used to.
So, if you can maybe call some of these people, newspaper, T.V., radio, any kind of media, and ask, 'what is going on? Doesn't anyone care?" Maybe we can get some attention.
I am not shy, whatsoever. I am quite willing to talk about this and enlist anyones help that I can get. If you feel the need, I can be reached through this forum. I will answer all.
Thank You All!! Keep in touch, there will be more to follow.
Cindy, I am sorry. Love, Jason
Thanks for your post, Jason. It's good to see you on here. I'm praying for Cindy, and for those of you who search.
With love and HOPE, Lanie
JBean
12-20-2004, 02:13 AM
Thanks for your post, Jason. It's good to see you on here. I'm praying for Cindy, and for those of you who search.
With love and HOPE, Lanie
Thanks for staying in touch Jason. I answered your message before I read this.
I can contact Jay Lawrence. We have mutual friends and he did a fundraiser for me in October. I will see if I can find anything out for you or get anywhere.
God Bless you,
Jill
WasBlind
01-17-2005, 05:48 AM
For Cindy, and all who love and miss her.
With love and HOPE, Lanie
Rag Doll 02
02-09-2005, 03:33 AM
Any updates on this ??
WasBlind
02-09-2005, 05:41 AM
Any updates on this ??
There is no news in Cindy's case.
With prayers of HOPE, Lanie
Jason:
It's been awhile since you posted. Have you heard anything about Cindy? I live in Orange County and I can't believe how they have been so complacent about this woman's disappearance. People just don't walk away wearing nothing but a bikini and leave their purse, $$, cc's, keys, car, etc, etc behind, ........not to mention the kids!!
Have you talked to the husband? His story sounds {{hinky}} to me. I wrote to the OC Register when they first wrote about Cindy and told the reporter this sounded like a criminal case to me. He gave me a very short reply"cops have no new leads."
Please, let us know if anything has been found out about Cindy.
Oh, you might try to contact the Carole Sund Foundation, perhaps they could help.
JMHO
fran
PS. I know it's a little late but I did write to John and Ken and told them they need to look into this case. Just think where Scott Peterson would be today had the Modesto PD handled Laci's disappearance like the Anaheim PD is handling Cindy's disappearance...........fran
WasBlind
02-13-2005, 12:26 AM
I just spoke with Jason tonight, and he is doing well.
The Carole Sund Foundation is already involved in Cindy's case. I believe there will be some sort of press later this week in regards to the search and possibly the reward grant (?), but cannot be sure of the exact date.
As far as I understood, there is no huge announcement, or anything. This is a normal procedure for procuring media attention to Cindy's case, which, as you and others have noticed, is growing painfully cold. Our hope is that with an advocate from Carole Sund being there, it will also stimulate A.P.D. into action. That would be the best outcome, however we do realize they can do little when leads are not coming in. Perhaps the media attention will bring those much needed leads.
Thanks for writing to the OC Register, it's really appreciated. Would you consider jotting a note to Governor Schwarzenegger and/or Greg Truax, supervisor of the missing and unidentified persons unit of the Attorney General's office?
www.ca.gov has the contact links, if I am not mistaken.
Any and all help in this matter would be greatly appreciated, fran. As always, if you or anyone needs more information, please feel free to contact me at the address in my signature. God bless you, fran, and thanks for caring about Cindy and those who search for her.
With prayers of HOPE for Cindy, Lanie
Thanks for the reply WasBlind. I'm glad the Carole Sund Foundation is getting involved. Hope it helps. I just can't believe how this case has fallen through the cracks. I'm not in LE but this definitely looks like foul play to me,........and we all know who the usual suspect is. :silenced:
I don't see why they didn't get a SW that very first week. It's scary how someone can just disappear and no one cares.
I will try to write to those you suggested. I'm at work right now so I'll do it as soon as I have a chance.
fran
WasBlind
02-13-2005, 09:25 PM
Hi, fran
I think we've had a lot of publicity on husbands and boyfriends as suspects, recently, but that is not usually the case in abduction scenerios, anyway. Just for the record, it seems the ones the media latches onto are cases with a family member or loved one involved. I cannot really comment on Cindy's case, as there is no evidence to suggest she was abducted or anything else, for that matter.
We have no idea why the media latches onto some, and not others. It's not a science, and there's no explanation, but we do see a preference for a certain age group, race, and sex, with a certain color hair, etc. Adults rarely get coverage, and it's like pulling teeth to get them media attention.
Please do write, and let us know if you hear back, pls ma'am. Cindy needs all the help we can give her.
God bless you, fran!
With prayers of HOPE for Cindy and those who search for her, Lanie
meggilyweggily
02-13-2005, 11:00 PM
I'm inclined to give Cindy's husband the benefit of the doubt, myself. The police stated that they didn't have any reason to doubt his story, and as Lanie said, there's no evidence pointing to ANYTHING at this point. I think it's cruel to point the finger at someone with no evidence other than conjecture. Lack of involvement in a case does not a murderer make.
I hope Cindy is out there just trying to gather herself together and will come home soon.
WasBlind
02-13-2005, 11:24 PM
...I hope Cindy is out there just trying to gather herself together and will come home soon.
That would be the very BEST thing.
Thanks for all you do for the missing, Meaghan. The new links look great.
With love and HOPE, Lanie
Rag Doll 02
02-15-2005, 05:54 AM
I am local to this case too.( Orange County ) Is there ANYTHING I could do ??
I realize that if when she has had marital problems in the past, she has taken off before..... but I have a hard time with believing a mother would do that with a young child-- especially around the holidays.
Anyone know of any kind of abuse gone on in the past between husband and wife ?? Drugs or alcohol ?? Any extramarital hanky panky on either side ? Not accusing-- just asking. Sometimes these are contributing factors for someone to just 'take off'.
WasBlind
02-18-2005, 05:03 AM
Have U Seen Me (http://www.haveuseenme.com/cindy_casteel-mathieu.htm)
Special thanks to Ginger and Wayne, whose child and grandson are also missing.
Project Jason - Faces of the missing page (http://www.projectjason.org/Faces.html)
Thanks, Kelly!
Angels Missing (http://www.angelsmissing.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=76)
Thanks, fourboys!
lcookster
02-18-2005, 09:15 AM
I would assume that LE did a thorough search of the home, the car etc.. Aren't they supposed to look at family members closely, given the statistics? This is very confounding. Did her children have any knowledge of on-going marital problems or what the argument at the pool party was all about? Are any other pieces of clothing missing? So sad! Anyone local who can supply more detailed information relative to why police have supposedly cleared her current husband?
JBean
03-08-2005, 04:56 PM
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/03/08/sections/local/local/article_434142.php
Hope flickering in woman's disappearance
Relatives, friends of Anaheim mother, missing 7 months, are still searching.
By GREG HARDESTY
The Orange County Register
ANAHEIM – Grandmother, mother, daughter.
Missing person.
Cindy Casteel Mathieu is many things to many people, but that last distinction has been tormenting relatives and friends for nearly seven months. They fear the worst after numerous searches - including a trip to the San Bernardino Mountains where a psychic believes her body might be buried – have turned up nothing.
"Although we're hoping and praying for the best, we're ready to accept the worst," Jason Casteel, ex-husband of the mother of three, told a crowd of supporters last week at a candlelight vigil near Cindy Casteel Mathieu's apartment in west Anaheim.
The missing woman's husband, Donald Gene Mathieu, 42, who has been in trouble with the law before, has been keeping to himself since she disappeared. Cindy Casteel Mathieu, whose 43rd birthday came and went in October, officially is a missing person but her case has been suspicious from the start, Anaheim police Sgt. Rick Martinez said.
"This woman had a 6-year-old child, and mothers typically don't disappear like this," Martinez said. "We haven't ruled anything out - including foul play."
Casteel Mathieu, who loved to bowl and was devoted to her children, who had a tattoo of a butterfly on her right hip from a trip to Hawaii, and loved camping and boating, has not called friends or relatives since Aug. 14, police say.
There has been no activity on her bank account, and she failed to pick up her paycheck at the city of Anaheim, where she worked as a customer service representative for the utilities department.
Casteel Mathieu's two children from previous marriages, Sarah Originales, 22, and Kalani Casteel, 18, both of La Mirada, were among 50 or so relatives and friends who gathered at Maxwell Park on Thursday to rekindle community awareness.
As the group formed a circle, held hands and recited the Lord's Prayer, six votive candles flickered around a framed portrait of Casteel Mathieu at her 1979 graduation from La Mirada High School.
"She would never leave her children," said Jason Casteel, 42, of Moreno Valley. "They were her sunshine in the morning, and her sparkle in the stars at night."
Elaine Ellis, Casteel Mathieu's sister-in-law, leaned toward a sobbing Originales, who was pregnant with now-3-week-old Adam when her mother vanished.
"God knows what happened to her, and someday the truth will come out," Ellis told Originales.
In addition to a psychic, relatives and friends have hired a private investigator.
"I don't think this lady made it," Oregon-based psychic consultant Laurie McQuary told private investigator Kristen Knowles. "I think she's up in the forest area."
McQuary mentioned Lytle Creek, at the eastern end of the San Gabriel Mountains, as a place to look. A couple of dozen people scoured that area Feb. 13 for six hours but found nothing. an argument
Mathieu, 42, reported his wife missing Aug. 16, two days after the couple attended a family pool party. The couple frequently argued since meeting in 1997 and the fighting continued after their marriage in November 2003, relatives and friends of Casteel Mathieu said.
On the night she disappeared, Casteel Mathieu and her husband got into an argument at the party at Originales' house, relatives and friends there said. After arguing, the couple left their son, Samuel, with relatives and went home to their apartment near Beach Boulevard and Ball Road, around midnight.
Mathieu, described by the missing woman's family as an unemployed construction worker, told police he last saw his wife walking upstairs in her one-piece pink bathing suit to go to bed, while he retired on the couch.
Mathieu told police he left the house early Sunday afternoon without going upstairs and returned late. It was then that he noticed his wife missing, he told police. He started calling relatives, and police were notified the next day.
All of Casteel Mathieu's possessions - including her wallet, purse, ID and cars keys - were found in the apartment. Recently, her belongings were auctioned off after Mathieu put them in storage and failed to keep up with the rent, according to Casteel Mathieu's relatives.
Mathieu could not be reached for comment for this story.
Police say they have no reason to doubt Mathieu's story. Anaheim's Sgt. Martinez said Casteel Mathieu's disappearance remains an "open investigation" and that police continue to talk to Mathieu.
But they lost track of Mathieu's whereabouts last week when he moved out of a friend's house in Anaheim, Martinez said.
On Monday, police still had not found Mathieu. In a previous interview with the Register, Mathieu said he was "in the dark" about his wife's disappearance and was praying for her safe return. Mathieu did not attend last week's vigil and has not participated in other efforts with the group to find his wife.
TROUBLE
On Jan. 5, Mathieu was arrested on suspicion of causing a bodily injury to his son, now 7, court records show.
Mathieu has pleaded not guilty to the misdemeanor charge and faces a pre-trial hearing March 18 at the North Justice Center in Fullerton, Anaheim Assistant City Attorney Pat Ahle said.
If convicted of the charge, Mathieu could be sentenced to up to a year in county jail, Ahle said.
Samuel Casteel has been placed with foster parents, relatives of Cindy Casteel Mathieu said. Mathieu would not allow his son to live with a member of the family, they said. Mathieu has an arrest record related to domestic violence in Texas, according to court records and police reports.
He was arrested on suspicion of family violence/assault in August 1992 by Guadalupe County Sheriff's deputies.
According to an officer's report, Mathieu, who lived in Seguin at the time, got into an argument with his then-wife, Barbara, while watching a "Rambo" movie. At one point, Mathieu threw a hope chest across a bedroom and stuck a .22-caliber rifle under his wife's throat and threatened to shoot her, according to the officer's report.
Barbara Mathieu secured a temporary restraining order against her husband because of his "violent and ungovernable temper," but a couple of weeks later she decided not to pursue charges and the order was lifted, court records show. anguish
For family and friends of Casteel Mathieu, not knowing what has happened to her has been the hardest part.
"It's unbelievable," said her father, Andrew Orlowski, who drove up from Oceanside with his wife, Betty – Casteel Mathieu's stepmother – to attend the vigil.
"It seems we're not getting any answers from anyone," Orlowski said. "I honesty believe that if she was out there somewhere, she would have called somebody by now."
Said Kalani Casteel, her son: "My mom has always been there for me, my whole life." Later this month, the Carole Sund/Carrington Memorial Reward Foundation, named in honor of one of the victims of Yosemite murderer Cary Stayner, is expected to announce a reward for information leading to Casteel Mathieu's whereabouts.
Said Pam Wilcox, Casteel Mathieu's best friend: "We're not going anywhere. Somebody, somewhere, has got to have seen something."
JBean
03-08-2005, 04:58 PM
Mr Jbird7
Glad to at least see some print about Cindy. Hope your holding up ok. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
Someone slap me. I hate to say it. But what Jelly posted today. I truley think the Husband needs to be checked out very very closely.
OK, let me get this straight,.........the husband left on that fateful Sunday morning without checking his wife and didn't notice her missing until after he'd been gone all day,.......the husband has a history of 'domestic violence' including using a gun..........the husband was arrested and accused of causing bodily injury to his son........the husband won't allow the son to live with any relatives, wants him to stay with strangers.
I'm not likin' what I see here. Not accusin', just sayin'. :innocent:
JMHO
fran
kholloway
03-08-2005, 11:54 PM
My thoughts, hopes and prayers are with Cindy and her family. I have to agree, I really don't like what I read. I find myself afraid for her little boy, Samuel. Does the father have him and am I right that they cannot locate this man now? Why would he allow her personal belongings to be sold at auction instead of making sure that her children and/or parents got them?
Oh, I hope that he maybe scared her, causing her to leave. Cindy and her children are in my prayers tonight.
www.missingwixchildren.homestead.com
lisa0477
03-09-2005, 01:05 AM
Okay,
here I go again. This to me is a bigger slap in the face than Laci. Unless this mother turns up ALIVE somewhere, then I wouldn't believe her husband has not killed her. He had that night and almost the Whole next day to get rid of her. There is absolutely no telling where she is. Did she change out of her swim suit? Did she just go walking around in a bikini. Surely someone would have noticed that. THANK GOD for the police men that came to Laci's home that night. If I go missing, someone PLEASE TELL THEM I WOULD NEVER walk away from my children, and my ex did it!! HER EX HUSBAND is more worried than her current one. Did anyone ever find out what they were fighting about?
UGgh this makes me SICK
JBean
03-09-2005, 10:04 AM
HER EX HUSBAND is more worried than her current one. Did anyone ever find out what they were fighting about?
UGgh this makes me SICKHer ex husband posts here as MrJbird7 and yes, he is extremely worried. :(
This is so sad. When are LE going to step up to the plate and do the right thing in this case? I guess I'm jaded because of Scott Peterson, but I think the husband needs to be investigated with a fine tooth comb.
OK, I can't help myself. I have to give you my OPINION. IMHO, etc....
I have felt from DAY ONE that the current hubby ehhhhhhhh.....was responsible for Cindi's disappearance. I believe we haven't heard from her because she is no longer alive. And this was all BEFORE I learned about his previous domestic violence and his child abuse.
The last time Cindi was seen by anyone other than her hubby, they are fighting.
He said they were still fighting at home so SHE went into the other room to sleep and when asked what he said to her he said, "Sweet dreams." :eek:
Sorry, spooky...........reminds me of something SP would have said.
He claims he didn't check on her the next day and just went about what he wanted to do. This gave him the WHOLE DAY alone.
The husband did not call police to report her missing,........her work called when she didn't show up on Monday........MAJOR RED FLAG WHEN HUSBAND DOESN'T CALL FIRST.
He said she's done this before, disappeared etc......ehhh....without her purse, wallet, credit cards, driver's license, cell phone, keys, and car!?!? :confused:
Now we hear he hasn't helped look for her. He's disappeared. He let her stuff be sold at auction.
Sorry.............the USUAL SUSPECT........IMHO............
This case may need the help of Mr. Walsh and AMW. We need to find that husband!!
What is with this police department?! When this was first reported the PD said 'appears no foul play." What were they thinking!!! :eek:
This case has me very upset. I can't believe they didn't get in on this sooner. Poor Cindi and all her family and friends. My prayers are with you.
JMHO
fran
mrjbird7
03-10-2005, 04:33 AM
I would like to start off by saying 'THANKS' to all of you who have replied. I really do appreciate your support. I would like to make one correction in the article, Sammy is not my son. Although I would be so proud if he were. Sammy is a wonderful child, who deserves to have his mother.
Those who love and miss Cindy, will not rest until she is found. I know she would do the same for us if one of us were missing.
God Bless You All For Caring.
Jason,
In Search Of Cindy,
The Mother Of My Beautiful Children.
NOTE: In the time it took for me to write this note, 3 people became missing in America.
Jason, your ex-wife is so lucky to have someone like you in her corner. It sounds like her current husband could care less. My prayers and good thoughts are with you. Thank you for sharing with us.
I just don't understand what LE's hangup is over this case...It's seems pretty obvious that the husband should be a "person of interest," or is it just us that think so?
JBean
03-10-2005, 10:20 AM
I would like to start off by saying 'THANKS' to all of you who have replied. I really do appreciate your support. I would like to make one correction in the article, Sammy is not my son. Although I would be so proud if he were. Sammy is a wonderful child, who deserves to have his mother.
Those who love and miss Cindy, will not rest until she is found. I know she would do the same for us if one of us were missing.
God Bless You All For Caring.
Jason,
In Search Of Cindy,
The Mother Of My Beautiful Children.
NOTE: In the time it took for me to write this note, 3 people became missing in America.
So glad you posted. I think of you often. I see your hard efforts are bringing Cindy's name out into the public. Bless you MRJB7...WE're all praying for you.
angarella
03-10-2005, 10:21 AM
That poor little boy Sammy. Is he doing okay? Prayers for Cindy and all of her family.
JBean
03-28-2005, 05:28 PM
Possible Reward Offer for Missing Orange County Woman 03-28-2005 4:40 AM
http://orangecounty.cox.net/cci/newslocal/local?_mode=view&view=LocalNewsArticleView&articleId=554125
(Anaheim, CA) -- Law enforcement officials are expected to offer a reward today for information regarding the disappearance of a 43-year-old West Anaheim woman.
Possible Reward Offer for Missing Orange County Woman 03-28-2005 4:40 AM
http://orangecounty.cox.net/cci/newslocal/local?_mode=view&view=LocalNewsArticleView&articleId=554125
(Anaheim, CA) -- Law enforcement officials are expected to offer a reward today for information regarding the disappearance of a 43-year-old West Anaheim woman.
It's about time! Maybe if they'd have done this in the first place, there'd be some answers. Where is Cindy?
JMHO
fran
JBean
03-28-2005, 05:41 PM
It's about time! Maybe if they'd have done this in the first place, there'd be some answers. Where is Cindy?
JMHO
franhttp://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/03/28/sections/breaking_news/article_459823.php
Monday, March 28, 2005
$5,000 reward for missing woman
Anaheim police say a man has become 'person of interest' in his wife's disappearance seven months ago.
By JOHN McDONALD
The Orange County Register
ANAHEIM – Police today identified the husband of Cindy Casteel Mathieu, a mother of three who's been missing seven months, as a "person of interest" in their investigation and said a $5,000 reward has been offered for help in finding her.
The Carole Sund-Carrington Foundation offered the $5,000 reward.
I would assume that LE did a thorough search of the home, the car etc.. Aren't they supposed to look at family members closely, given the statistics? This is very confounding. Did her children have any knowledge of on-going marital problems or what the argument at the pool party was all about? Are any other pieces of clothing missing? So sad! Anyone local who can supply more detailed information relative to why police have supposedly cleared her current husband?
lcookster:
That's just the point. According to the first and only article I saw about this case in the local paper, four days after she'd been missing, was on page four of the 'local' section of the OC Register. The title was something like, 'Police Do Not Suspect Foul Play,' something similar. That's because after this woman's work reported her missing on Monday, when her husband was contacted by LE he said, 'she's done this before, taken off.'
Bet IF she had done 'this' before she wasn't in a bathing suit and took her purse and credit cards and cell phone and house keys and car and most likely the kids. It's unbelieveable this PD just took his word for it! As far as I know, they did NOT check anything. It was like, "oh well."
JMHO
fran
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/03/28/sections/breaking_news/article_459823.php
Monday, March 28, 2005
$5,000 reward for missing woman
Anaheim police say a man has become 'person of interest' in his wife's disappearance seven months ago.
By JOHN McDONALD
The Orange County Register
ANAHEIM – Police today identified the husband of Cindy Casteel Mathieu, a mother of three who's been missing seven months, as a "person of interest" in their investigation and said a $5,000 reward has been offered for help in finding her.
The Carole Sund-Carrington Foundation offered the $5,000 reward.
I am so upset over this! Where was their brain when this first happened?! The original report SCREAMED "FOUL PLAY!"
And that stupid reporter brushed me off like I didn't know what I was talking about! What an ............ :razz: ......oh well, never mind...........
JMHO
fran
mrjbird7
03-31-2005, 12:56 AM
Thanks to all who have been visiting this thread. I rarely have time to post, so please bear with me.
First, I'd like to thank the Carole Sund Foundation for the reward grant. We're hoping this will generate the leads that will bring Cindy home to us.
Thanks to those at Anaheim PD who have been such a strong support in recent times.
It was quite humbling to be chosen as the spokesperson for our family at this press conference. The support from Cindy's family and friends was amazing. She is deeply loved and dearly missed. We will not stop looking for her, and we pray justice prevails, and soon.
Please keep us all in your thoughts and prayers. Your support is important to all of us.
Many thanks and my best to all,
Jason Casteel
For Cindy,
The Mother of My Beautiful Children.
mrjbird7
05-08-2005, 05:14 AM
Bump for Cindy, Jason
Gabby
05-11-2005, 08:49 AM
Bumping for Cindy....
God Bless you Jason.
sharon25
05-13-2005, 01:07 AM
I just sent an e-mail to your gov. http://www.govmail.ca.gov/
I'm also going to e-mail AMW.
Thank god for cindy's ex husband!
-sharon
sharon25
05-13-2005, 01:09 AM
I am sure someone else has already looked into this.. but thought that I would post it anyway. Good luck!
http://www.amw.com/about_amw/faq.cfm/#cases
Submitting Cases
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Cases to be profiled on AMW are carefully chosen from the hundreds of requests we receive every week. Due to the high volume of requests we often need to make tough decisions when it comes to choosing which cases to profile. We make every attempt to cover cases from all parts of the country and all type of crimes. Our ultimate goal is to give a voice to the maximum number of victims possible and help find missing children and bring fugitives to justice.
If you would like to have a case considered for the show, please send all facts to:
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Please make sure to note whether there is a known fugitive charged with the crime, or whether the perpetrator is yet to be identified. If charges have been filed, please note the police agency that filed the charges. It is also helpful to let us know what photos and/or video are available of the victim and the fugitive.
NOTE: We are not able to return materials, so do not send original or irreplaceable photos, documents, etc.
Bobbisangel
05-13-2005, 05:14 AM
Sharon, the quickest way to get a segment on AMW is for the detectives working on Cindy's case to contact them. I know from experience that results are much quicker if the LE contact AMW.
It totally amazes me that the LE are just getting around to looking at this husband. If we could pick up on what probably happened you would think that they could have. And over time the husband has only acted more suspect. Puts her clothes in storage? Does he know something the cops don't like she isn't coming back! He doesn't attend the vigil? Keeping to himself instead of getting out there and looking for Cindy. Abuses the little boy yet he gets to decide who he can live with!!! Why doesn't Child Protective Services step in and allow one of the family to keep him. The little boy has lost his mom and his dad is a creep....he needs to be with family.
I hope that Cindy is found soon for the sake of the family. I really think her husband has done something to her. He just stands out like a sore thumb.
mrjbird7
05-13-2005, 06:36 AM
Would you believe, that it has been nine months since our family last had the pleasure of our Cindy's company? Nine months. That doesn't seem like a long time, does it. Well, that depends on your perspective. A new born baby has just arrived on this earth, just nine months after conception. Nine months, and a new life has been created. That new life will have about nine hundred months to do what he, or she, is meant to do on this great planet. About 75 years to make their mark, to be remembered, to be loved, or, to be forgotten.
Cindy did not have 75 years. No, she only got a bit more than half of that. Not fair, I say. Not fair at all. But some things in life just aren't fair. I am sure you have been dealt a crappy hand once or twice during your stay here. I know I sure have. You have got to wonder, why did this happen to me? Well, we will never know the answer to that. I know if I did, I would make damm sure that it never, ever happened again.
I do know this, Cindy did accomplish a lot while she was here with us. That she did. She left her mark. She left 3 of the most wonderful children that you could possibly imagine. Oh, sure, at times they do have their moments when you would think otherwise. But I am VERY PROUD to have been involved in a major portion of all of their lives. No one can take that away from her.
Just a bit earlier this evening, I had the privilage of spending a few hours with some members of her family. After tonight, there is no doubt, whatsoever, that she is truly remembered. That she is.
I happen to have first hand knowledge of her being loved. There was a magic between us that I would hope every single person could expierience. She could do things with a spark in her eye that made me thank God that I was a man. Cindy was very much loved. And she gave back tenfold, not only to me, but to everyone whose life she had ever touched.
I also know that she missed out on the last item that I had mentioned earlier. She IS NOT forgotten. She will never be. Not on my watch, anyway.
I have had some help as of late. We are planning a couple of events that will get our search for her back in the lime-light. Along with, perrhaps most importantly, bringing out awareness to the people just how epidemic this missing thing has gotten. You really have no idea of the impact on a family, a community, or even a city, something like this can have. Really no idea. Unless, of course, that it is happening to you. Believe me, at that point, YOU WILL REALLY CARE. But then, it is too late. And it hurts so bad.
A little over half. It just isn't fair.
Oh, that nine months I had mentioned earlier. Cindy and I, with the help of our daughter, had our 2nd grandson on February 13th. Although Cindy may never have the opportunity to know little Adam, myself, and the rest of our rather large extended family, will make damm sure that he gets to know Cindy. That I can surely promise. That, he will.
Thank You for sharing my thoughts this evening.
And to my special help, thank you, and I love you.
Jason,
for Cindy,
the Mother of my Beautiful Children.
Gabby
05-14-2005, 10:14 AM
Bumping up for Mr. Jay , his 'help', and of course, CINDY
mrjbird7
05-14-2005, 01:37 PM
Tomorrow, Sunday May 15, 2005, we will be having a "Drive for Cindy". We will be placing posters in as many businesses that will allow us to highlighting all of Cindy's information and bringing up awareness of the many missing people that are still "not home". This will take place at 10:00a.m. in Anaheim, CA. The meeting place will be just West of Beach Blvd. on Ball Road. There is a Bank there with a large parking lot on the North side of Ball.
All are welcome to attend and All who attend will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for reading this.
Jason Casteel,
for Cindy,
the Mother of my Beautiful Children.
I am so glad to see this thread reinvigorated. I was working on this last weekend. By working on it, I mean I was trying to compose a letter to AMW to try to get them to do a segment. I haven't finished yet, but I'll try this weekend and get it in the mail ASAP. I'll also take Bobbisangel's advice and contact the investigating detective and see if he'll contact AMW also. Perhaps we could all write!
I'm approaching this story for AMW on a level that would get their attention, and more particularly, Mr. Walsh's attention. I'm trying to get 'justice' for Cindy's son for the abuse he alledgedly endured from his dad after his mom went missing. Now the dad is on the lamb and he needs to be caught. Even if they can't do anything about Cindy (as it appears all evidence has probably disappeared), at least he should serve time for abusing her son. Perhaps if he's caught, he'll come clean with what happened to Cindy (IMHO, MOO, JMHO). Also, how ironic, Cindy's new grandson is named "Adam." AMW has to listen!!!!
Jason...........thank you for the heads up on tomorrow. IF I can help, I'll try to make it. Be sure to contact the OCRegister!! Perhaps they'll give you some coverage!!
JMHO
fran
PS........Jason, what happened to Cindy's car? Did the husband still have his vehicle he had before Cindy went missing? Couldn't LE do forensics on the vehicles? Has LE done luminol testing in their 'former' place of residence?............fran
AuntieKaren
05-14-2005, 02:25 PM
Tomorrow, Sunday May 15, 2005, we will be having a "Drive for Cindy".
All are welcome to attend and All who attend will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for reading this.
Jason Casteel,
for Cindy,
the Mother of my Beautiful Children.
I am going to try and make it.
Karen
mrjbird7
05-14-2005, 02:32 PM
I don't believe that I should be putting any information about what has or HAS NOT taken place in this investigation. My opinion does not matter any way. I am not the one who registered the complaint. I am just a nosy citizen. So, with that being said, I will be more than happy to talk with anyone openly tomorrow morning at 10:00am. You all know exactly where I will be. I wonder wher her "husband" will be.
mrjbird7 said, "I am not the one who registered the complaint."
Complaint? Someone complained? To who? :waitasec:
I understand if you can't answer my questions from my earlier post. I just get upset about this case as I felt from DAY ONE they should have suspected foul play and done a search warrant on all pertinent locations, meaning home, cars, etc. I even voiced that opinion to the reporter who wrote the original article about Cindy's disappearance. But alas, no one listened and now look where we are. No further now than then. No wait, :banghead: ............we're further behind now as most traces of Cindy have disappeared over these months of wasted time and now the husband is on the lamb. :(
JMHO
fran
Gabby
05-14-2005, 06:13 PM
mrjbird7 said, "I am not the one who registered the complaint."
Complaint? Someone complained? To who? :waitasec:
I understand if you can't answer my questions from my earlier post. I just get upset about this case as I felt from DAY ONE they should have suspected foul play and done a search warrant on all pertinent locations, meaning home, cars, etc. I even voiced that opinion to the reporter who wrote the original article about Cindy's disappearance. But alas, no one listened and now look where we are. No further now than then. No wait, :banghead: ............we're further behind now as most traces of Cindy have disappeared over these months of wasted time and now the husband is on the lamb. :(
JMHO
fran
I think j. meant that he was not the one who had Cindy listed as missing to the police.
I think j. meant that he was not the one who had Cindy listed as missing to the police.
I'm still :confused: but, oh well. It's not the first nor last time I'll be confused. :D
fran
PS.....Since Cindy's husband isn't the one who reported her missing he must be referring to her co-workers? ;)
mrjbird7
05-15-2005, 12:03 AM
Most of you got it right, so for you who did, Bravo Sleuthers. For those who didn't, here goes:
When someone wants to "file a police report", what he is actually doing is "registering a complaint".
As for you Sleuthers in California, please, be at the "DRIVE FOR CINDY" tomorrow morning at 10:am. Ball Road, just East of Beach Blvd. in Anaheim. Right there in the big parking lot in front of the bank.
WasBlind
05-15-2005, 07:56 AM
We're about to leave for the stores to pick up some last minute items.
Please pray this day brings much success, with THE poster placed that brings the answers this family so desperately seeks.
Someone will be at the location most of the morning and afternoon, so please come on out, even if you're a tad late.
I'll be there, as well as some local press, some from Anaheim PD, most of Cindy's immediate family and friends and also some other local families who are searching or have had a recent search.
We look forward to seeing y'all there.
With prayers of HOPE for Cindy, Lanie
Gabby
05-15-2005, 09:14 AM
I'm still :confused: but, oh well. It's not the first nor last time I'll be confused. :D
fran
PS.....Since Cindy's husband isn't the one who reported her missing he must be referring to her co-workers? ;)
Mr.J. is Cindy's EX-Husband... the other guy didn't and doesn't appear to give a flying fig if Cindy is found or not.... My opinion.....He knows where she is, what happened to her and whether or not she will be coming back.
Gabby
05-16-2005, 05:58 AM
How did the event go yesterday? UPdate?
fourboys
05-16-2005, 08:24 AM
By AMY TAXIN
The Orange County Register
Monday, May 16, 2005
ANAHEIM – Cindy Casteel Mathieu's photo is printed on fliers and Web sites and the plastic buttons that her family wore Sunday as they trudged up and down Ball Road.
Their hope is that someone who sees the image of the smiling mother of three might know where to find her.
Nine months ago, Casteel Mathieu disappeared from her west Anaheim apartment.
Since then, her children and siblings have embarked on a mission to find her – hiring a private investigator and enlisting the aid of a psychic.
On Sunday, relatives passed out the fliers with her photo and posted them in the neighborhood.
They wore lavender ribbons with a rainbow fringe – her favorite colors – to remind people that Casteel Mathieu has yet to be found.
"We just don't want people to forget until we have some kind of answer," said Kim Gogos, her 46-year-old sister. "None of us believe she just walked away."
Anaheim police Sgt. Rick Martinez said her disappearance remains a mystery.
"We're certainly not ruling anything out. There is a possibility at this point that she did meet with foul play," he said.
Casteel Mathieu, 43, disappeared in August after a pool party.
Her husband, Donald Mathieu, told police that he last saw his wife walking upstairs in her one-piece pink bathing suit to go to bed, while he retired on the couch. Mathieu was not at Sunday's event.
If you have information about Casteel Mathieu's whereabouts, please call Anaheim police at (714) 765-1581
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/05/16/sections/local/local/article_521327.php
Gabby
05-16-2005, 08:29 AM
Her husband, Donald Mathieu, told police that he last saw his wife walking upstairs in her one-piece pink bathing suit to go to bed, while he retired on the couch. Mathieu was not at Sunday's event.
And why does this not surprise me?
mrjbird7
05-16-2005, 10:04 PM
Next, on FOX news channel
Please watch and support our search for Cindy.
Many thanks
Misty-Waves
05-16-2005, 10:54 PM
I watched Greta on Fox. Glad to finally see some info. being put out, but--it could/should have been better prepared IMO. Hopefully it will ignite some much needed interest!
Take care Jason, along with the children.
Misty
Gabby
05-26-2005, 08:25 AM
Bumping for Cindy and those who love her and miss her, and will continue searching until she is found.
CaliKid
06-04-2005, 02:15 AM
I am very surprised that, with the behavior of the husband, he isn't more of a suspect in Cindy's disappearance.
Gabby
06-04-2005, 03:24 PM
Any new leads come of the event last month?
fourboys
08-14-2005, 11:53 PM
Cindy went missing one year ago today.
Saturday August 14, 2004.
Please keep her and her family in your thoughts and prayers.
fourboys
mrjbird7
08-15-2005, 01:45 AM
With all that has happened in the last year, I can not possibly imagine what will happen in the next year. I believe all of you know my true feelings about this case. About what has or has not happened in the investigation. For those of you who do not, this will spell it out in black and white.
However, with all the B.S. that has been going on in this website, this will be my last post. I can no longer deal with a website that is so full of gossip and mistrust. I, for one, do not subscribe to any of the accusations that were made in another forum here on Websleuths. For those of you who know what I am talking about, SHAME ON YOU !!
So please read on:
CINDY CASTEEL-MATHIEU AUG 14, 2005 IT HAS BEEN ONE YEAR
We have no reason to suspect foul play........ That is what I can remember about the articles that have to do with Cindy Casteel. Forget the Mathieu. That is not who she was. That is who Donald Gene Mathieu tried to mold her into, but he failed. miserably. So he killed her.
The police have no reason to suspect foul play? What about the reasons that all of her friends gave them? He beat on her. He constantly threatened her. He constantly threatened her children. He has done this before on numerous ocassions. He is wanted in other states for domestic violence. He has an "ungovernable temper", as the Texas courts put it. The man is a complete psychopath. What about those reasons?
But Anaheim Police Detective, Karen Schoepher, badge #124, didn't think that was important. All she has managed to say to Cindy's family has been, I didn't think that was important. I didn't have time to look into that. I think..., I thought..., I don't believe..., I would be suprised if..., and the list goes on. This detective, for some reason, thought this mother of three and valued city employee, would just take off on her own and not tell anybody. She took everything that her "new" husband, convicted wife beater, Donald Gene Mathieu, had to say as gospel. Without even considering ANYTHING her family had to say about this disgusting excuse of a human being.
Today is the 1 year anniversary of her disappearance, and I am pissed! This was the mother of my children and he stole her and took everything that she had, and trashed it. He made another child with her and has abandoned him. Only after the Anaheim City Attorney let him go after plea bargaining his charge of "influicting injury upon a child" to "disturbing the peace". He did not pay his fine or even sign up for his classes that he was ordered to take. No. Now he has a warrant for his arrest, but Det. Schroepher, "hasn't had time to check it out".
It really doesn't matter now though. He is gone. Left the state of California and right now is on the prowl for another woman to impregnate, convince that they can have a beautiful life together, and then start his reign of terror on her and their new child. Poor woman. I can only pray that some ex-boyfriend or ex-husband of his new "target" will do what I should have done when this whole thing started. Making sure that he never destroys another family again. Just like the way he destroyed my family and 2 others before it. 2 others that we know of anyway. There are probably more.
Donald Gene Mathieu. Approximately 43 years of age. Has an extreme passion for lite beer, gambling, meth-amphetamine, and abuse of anyone weaker than him. Women and children in particular. As a profession, when he is working and not sponging off of his new found victim, he drives trucks and works construction. He is a complete control/power freak. Quitting his last construction job because a new forman was hired with more expierience than he had. His pay was NOT reduced. Same pay, less work, stress, and responsibility. But the same pay. So he quit because he couldn't be boss. Boo hoo. This man needs to be stopped. immediately.
I am completely fed up with the way this entire investigation has been handled and am now through taking the calm approach. The case in Aruba has got me so steamed up that I can't stand it anymore. The media is so up in arms about how it has been mishandled from the begining that it has turned that place upside down. If there is anyone on the planet who knows what the Holloway family is going through, it is me. My heart goes out to them. They know what has happened. Believe me, they know. They just want closure. Without closure, you can never accept the fact that this terrible thing has happened. Because there is still hope. The only problem is, is that it is false hope.
Why isn't the media all "up in arms" about the way that the investigation here is going? My God!! Anaheim, California!! Disneyland for God sakes!! Because everytime the media asks, "what is going on?" The answer from APD is the same. They keep trying to cover up for the incompetance of their detective by saying, "we have no reason to suspect foul play".
If only we could have 1/50th of that news coverage, I am sure the APD would get off their asses and start investigating and start coming up with some answers. Instead of sitting on their fat asses, waiting for Cindy to come into the police station and announcing, "I'm home!" Well, that is not going to happen. But if they were to start actually investigating, they would come up with some answers. Then I know my kids would at least rest well. They still would not have a mother, but they would rest well knowing that Donald Gene Mathieu was on "Death Row" awaiting his execution for the murder of Cindy Lou Casteel-Mathieu.
My name is Jason Casteel. Cindy and I were together for 11 years. Until I was stupid and Don was on the run from Texas law for the same thing he is now on the run from here. Cindy then met Don. He is a very charming individual, until he gets his foot in the door. Then trust me. You can not get him out. Until he leaves on his own, and by that time, I'm sorry, it's just too late. It is just too freaking late.
This will be the last time that I do any posting about this matter. There are just not enough genuine people who really care about Cindy or her family to bother with. However, the steam is going to be put on now. If you would like to be informed on what is going on in this case, you may contact me at convictthebastard@yahoo.com . Tell me who you are and why you care, and I will add you to my bi-weekly report of what is happening.
As the weeks go on, I hope we can come closer to finding Cindy and bring her home. If you know anything, please let me know. If you are a single woman, please, run like hell if you see him.
Thank you for reading this. It is the first year of her being missed. Nothing to celebrate, I can assure you. It is just my way of letting her know that I have not forgotten. Nor will I ever.
God Bless
Jason Casteel,
for Cindy,
the Mother of my Beautiful Children.
jaybird
08-15-2005, 02:05 AM
Mrjbird7, I don't know what you're referring to, but I'm so sorry about Cindy. I'll pray for her and your family and her safe return, or if not, at least the justice she deserves. I'm sorry it sounds like you've had a hard time in Websleuths. I hope you find her!
Bobbisangel
08-15-2005, 02:35 AM
Was Cindy's case ever shown on AMW? The LE should know that a woman doesn't just up and leave home in her bathing suit and if a husband has a previous history of domestic violence then there is a 99% chance that he is the reason for his wife disappearing.
If I were Cindy's children and siblings I would be talking to the head honcho at the local police department. If some female detective blew them off then go to her supervisor...keep going up the chain of command until someone listens. If Cindy was murdered in her home it doesn't matter if someone else lives in that home now. If the detectives go in there and spray with luminal any blood will show up. Doesn't matter if it has been scrubbed or not.
Even if the husband is on the run and is now being looked as as a "person of interest" they can still go over the home the couple lived in when she disappeared and see if they can't track down the vehicles that the couple owned. If there was blood in them it will also show up.
I just wouldn't put up with a detective not listening to anything that I told her. That is my personality though. Haven't always been that way but if you aren't assertive when it matters no one else is going to take care of the problem for you. I would have been in that office every day until I knew the police were doing something to find my mother....like a dog with a bone. Those who yell the loudest get the attention. Cindys children are probably the ones that need to start the push. I would go in there and tell LE that I want to know what has been done and is being done on my mother's case. Go over the husband's past domestic violence and the violence shown towards Cindy and the little one. Ask if they have sprayed Luminal at the home and in the cars. I wouldn't leave until I had some answers.
It is one thing when there is a missing person and LE are doing everything possible to find that person....it is another thing entirely when you get blown off by LE and it takes them a year to decide that the husband may know something about the wife's disappearance....pure ignorance. Pure bull chit.
J...I don't know who you are upset with on this site or what you read that made you angry. I personally haven't seen anything offensive on this thread.
I think there is a difference between filing a missing person's report and filing a complaint. Filing a complaint is...say your neighbor has a dog that barks all of the time and you have talked to them about it and they ignore you. You can go file a complaint with LE. When you file a missing person report you are reporting that someone you know has been missing for a certain period of time and you are concerned that something has happened to them. I think the two are pretty different. That is my understanding anyway.
KT Can
08-15-2005, 02:40 AM
Jason,
I am very sorry to hear that this will be your last post. I am not a big poster myself, but I think of Cindy and your family often so I am always checking this thread for updates. I do not know what has happened on other threads or forums to cause you to feel this way, but I would like to say that I am saddened about this and would like to be kept updated and in the loop on Cindy's case. I will email you with my information.
Who am I and why do I care? I am just a 34 year old mother of three children, one of whom is deceased, living in the suburbs of Houston. I care about Cindy and your family because I am human and because I couldn't imagine if my family had to endure anything like what you are going through. I commend you for what you are doing for Cindy. I know that if I were to go missing my ex-husband and the father of our children would do everything in his power to find me as well, and vice versa. I wish I could help you in some way from my little corner of the world. What can I do for you? What can we at WS's do? Would a letter writing campaign to the Anaheim Police Department and local newspapers and newstations get any results? You name it and if I can pull it off I will do it.
I honestly believe your account of what has happened to Cindy is correct. Families usually know the truth. They are the ones who know the history. I can't for the life of me understand why the police will not take Cindy's disappearance more seriously. A mother does not just up and leave her children. Unfortunately there is no shortage of Donald Gene Mathieu's out there. My best friend could have been Cindy if not for the grace of god.
I will keep Cindy, you, your children and your families in my thoughts and prayers.
Regards,
KT Can
(Karen)
KT Can
08-16-2005, 10:09 AM
Bumping for Cindy. Please read the above post by mrjbird7/Jason Casteel.
Jason:
I don't know what happened here, but I'm sorry to hear you're not going to post anymore. I wish you luck in finding Cindy and hope, some day, you see justice for her.
I haven't posted here for awhile, but I did write a two page letter to AMW a few months ago, in the hopes they would air her case. It was because of the first article about Cindy in the OCReg that I wrote my first ever letter to a reporter. I didn't like what they said, 'no foul play suspected,' because I thought the case reeked of foul play and I told him so. But, it didn't do any good. He just dashed off an email a few weeks later that said, "Cops have no new leads." That was before I even knew about his prior actions with his ex-wife!
Why Cindy's case hasn't gotten much attention is beyond me. Don't give up though. Someday perhaps you'll have your answer.
JMHO
fran
Gabby
08-16-2005, 01:13 PM
I know what Jason is referring to... The poster that was discussed in the Warning to WS Members thread in the Jury Room stayed a month in his home and helped with the distribution of fliers to help get Cindy's name out...
I am one of the Poster's who he isn't subscribing to....but as documented on that thread, others had contact also.
She did help him....I think her heart is in the right place.... but she did for a fact 'drift' for what ever reason...
I am sorry that MRJAYBIRD feels this way... There are others who do deeply care wheather or not Cindy is found... I am one of them...
MRJAYBIRD please understand there was proof that something else besides searching for the missing was going on... I felt it my duty to let others on this board know what I had experienced... others came forward afterwards.. We wish NO ILL WILL towards this person...and to quit posting here is only going to hurt the ones who do love Cindy and want her found.
Mods, please feel free to delete this post if you think it necessary...
Tom'sGirl
08-16-2005, 08:37 PM
I know what Jason is referring to... The poster that was discussed in the Warning to WS Members thread in the Jury Room stayed a month in his home and helped with the distribution of fliers to help get Cindy's name out...
I am one of the Poster's who he isn't subscribing to....but as documented on that thread, others had contact also.
She did help him....I think her heart is in the right place.... but she did for a fact 'drift' for what ever reason...
I am sorry that MRJAYBIRD feels this way... There are others who do deeply care wheather or not Cindy is found... I am one of them...
MRJAYBIRD please understand there was proof that something else besides searching for the missing was going on... I felt it my duty to let others on this board know what I had experienced... others came forward afterwards.. We wish NO ILL WILL towards this person...and to quit posting here is only going to hurt the ones who do love Cindy and want her found.
Mods, please feel free to delete this post if you think it necessary...Holy crap, just finished doing ALOT of reading the entire thread over at Jury Room.
You were completely right in reporting this situation that was going on here at WS in all fairness to it's members Gabby. Man she had contacted a bunch hadn't she?.........scary:woohoo: I'm still trying to grasp how it was that she was able to actually stay in some of our member's homes by just getting to know them online and on the telephone. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN VERY DANGEROUS if she has become as mentally unstable as she seems to become.
Also I'm wondering how she could afford to go from Coast to Coast in doing so. Where did she get all the $$$$$$ for travel costs :confused:
Tom'sGirl
08-16-2005, 10:20 PM
Cindy went missing one year ago today.
Saturday August 14, 2004.
Please keep her and her family in your thoughts and prayers.
fourboysJust read this while Googling.
SNIP:
In January 2005, Donald was arrested and charged with causing bodily harm to his and Cindy's son. The child was then placed in foster care, as his father would not consent to let him live with a family member. Donald has a previous arrest record for domestic violence. If convicted of the charge against him, he faces up to a year in jail. He maintains his innocence in the child abuse case and in his wife's disappearance.
Cindy has previously left her home when she became upset, but she always kept in touch with her relatives by phone. She and Donald married in 2003. Their relationship was troubled and they argued frequently. Investigators say they have no reason to doubt Donald's version of events and that there is no evidence of foul play in Cindy's case, but her loved ones say it is uncharacteristic of her to leave without warning and authorities are not ruling anything out at this point. Her case remains unsolved
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/casteel-mathieu_cindy.html
Bobbisangel
08-17-2005, 02:22 AM
Just read this while Googling.
SNIP:
In January 2005, Donald was arrested and charged with causing bodily harm to his and Cindy's son. The child was then placed in foster care, as his father would not consent to let him live with a family member. Donald has a previous arrest record for domestic violence. If convicted of the charge against him, he faces up to a year in jail. He maintains his innocence in the child abuse case and in his wife's disappearance.
Cindy has previously left her home when she became upset, but she always kept in touch with her relatives by phone. She and Donald married in 2003. Their relationship was troubled and they argued frequently. Investigators say they have no reason to doubt Donald's version of events and that there is no evidence of foul play in Cindy's case, but her loved ones say it is uncharacteristic of her to leave without warning and authorities are not ruling anything out at this point. Her case remains unsolved
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/casteel-mathieu_cindy.html
Hard to believe how ignorant some LE are isn't it. How can they not suspect foul play and why not right from the beginning. What do they need...a blood trail leading to the body????? With this creep's history of domestic violence that should be a big clue. But the cops have no reason to disbelieve him. That was probably the easist route for them to take....no sense in getting up out of their office chairs or patrol cars...hard to put down that coffee and donuts.
He may deny abusing his little boy but if he was taken out of the home someone must have thought the little guy had been abused. I wouldn't think he should be able to dictate where his son was placed. That makes no sense to me. That little guy belonged with his family...his mother's family. Wonder what has happened to him by now?
lisan1373
08-17-2005, 11:49 AM
[QUOTE=Tom'sGirl]Holy crap, just finished doing ALOT of reading the entire thread over at Jury Room.
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Where can I find the Jury Room?
Tom'sGirl
08-17-2005, 05:57 PM
[QUOTE=Tom'sGirl]Holy crap, just finished doing ALOT of reading the entire thread over at Jury Room.
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Where can I find the Jury Room?It's on the main page under Private Forums. I don't know if this link will get you there or not, but you can try it!
ETA: forgot to mention it's on the Warning topic that is on all of the threads, but this one has a discussion of the incident/s.
http://websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25
SewingDeb
08-17-2005, 06:31 PM
Holy crap, just finished doing ALOT of reading the entire thread over at Jury Room.
You were completely right in reporting this situation that was going on here at WS in all fairness to it's members Gabby. Man she had contacted a bunch hadn't she?.........scary:woohoo: I'm still trying to grasp how it was that she was able to actually stay in some of our member's homes by just getting to know them online and on the telephone. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN VERY DANGEROUS if she has become as mentally unstable as she seems to become.
Also I'm wondering how she could afford to go from Coast to Coast in doing so. Where did she get all the $$$$$$ for travel costs :confused:
Do you think the post from Cindy's husband could have been her?
Tom'sGirl
08-17-2005, 06:39 PM
Do you think the post from Cindy's husband could have been her?:waitasec: Not quite sure what you're asking here SD...........pleeeeeez sspain!
Tom'sGirl
08-17-2005, 09:22 PM
I know what you are talking about Deb... and the thought crossed my mind also.OOOOOOooooo, now the lightbulb goes on :doh:.......you mean could the posting by her EX-husband been that of WB herself, is that what was meant :confused:
mrjbird7
08-18-2005, 12:27 AM
You people are completely SICK!!! If you have any doubts at all aboiut who wrote this just give me a call. This is completely insane but you people must know the truth. Here is my phone number and you are free to call. You sick, warped people. (951) 242-2538. Any one of you sicko's have the nuts to call, go for it. The number is in Moreno Valley, CA. That is where I live. Nobody has my opinion except for me. I have not talked to my friend in quite some time. She did nothing except help me and do quite a lot of work for Project Jason.
Now you people thik she is posting as me? Get a freaking life. My childrens mom is dead. Murdered by her husband who is a big pile of human waste and he is free to do this again. Just as he has done in the past, twice before. Here you people are using these boards as a chat room. I am sorry that I ever got hooked up with this crap in the first place. No wonder all the sane people call this Websluts.
Donald Gene Mathieu is a complete psycho. He will do anything it takes to prove that he has power over you. He is a sick, sick man and needs to be stopped. Hopefully the police will find him before I do.
mrjbird7
08-18-2005, 12:29 AM
Gabby, you are oh so right. When someones reputation needs defending, there is no time for silence. That was perfect.
Tom'sGirl
08-18-2005, 01:16 AM
You people are completely SICK!!! If you have any doubts at all aboiut who wrote this just give me a call. This is completely insane but you people must know the truth. Here is my phone number and you are free to call. You sick, warped people. (951) 242-2538. Any one of you sicko's have the nuts to call, go for it. The number is in Moreno Valley, CA. That is where I live. Nobody has my opinion except for me. I have not talked to my friend in quite some time. She did nothing except help me and do quite a lot of work for Project Jason.
Now you people thik she is posting as me? Get a freaking life. My childrens mom is dead. Murdered by her husband who is a big pile of human waste and he is free to do this again. Just as he has done in the past, twice before. Here you people are using these boards as a chat room. I am sorry that I ever got hooked up with this crap in the first place. No wonder all the sane people call this Websluts.
Donald Gene Mathieu is a complete psycho. He will do anything it takes to prove that he has power over you. He is a sick, sick man and needs to be stopped. Hopefully the police will find him before I do.Well mrj I'm glad you haven't quit posting in spite of what has been posted here.
You are a local number for me even though your area code was changed from 909 to 951, same as my daughters.
NOW THEN, what can we do aside from looking for her? I have Googled myself silly looking up this guy she is currently married to and find very little except for what I posted here. Is there another state we could dig up more on him and make some waves to anyone that will listen?
What about the PressEnterprise, they can be so lame on their reporting, but hey, you never know it could help, although we tried that long ago regarding Anthony Martinez and got only a nod now and then.
Please let us know what we can do to help you, okay?
Gabby
08-18-2005, 05:50 AM
Gabby, you are oh so right. When someones reputation needs defending, there is no time for silence. That was perfect.
if you have a problem with me Jay... please pm me.. keep this off the boards
As I said, I do care whether or not Cindy is brought home... I have my Cindy button and ribbon that I wear... this is about Cindy not about WB...
SewingDeb
08-18-2005, 12:03 PM
OOOOOOooooo, now the lightbulb goes on :doh:.......you mean could the posting by her EX-husband been that of WB herself, is that what was meant :confused:
Yes, that's what I was wondering...lol. Sorry to confuse you.
SewingDeb
08-18-2005, 12:05 PM
You people are completely SICK!!! If you have any doubts at all aboiut who wrote this just give me a call. This is completely insane but you people must know the truth. Here is my phone number and you are free to call. You sick, warped people. (951) 242-2538. Any one of you sicko's have the nuts to call, go for it. The number is in Moreno Valley, CA. That is where I live. Nobody has my opinion except for me. I have not talked to my friend in quite some time. She did nothing except help me and do quite a lot of work for Project Jason.
Now you people thik she is posting as me? Get a freaking life. My childrens mom is dead. Murdered by her husband who is a big pile of human waste and he is free to do this again. Just as he has done in the past, twice before. Here you people are using these boards as a chat room. I am sorry that I ever got hooked up with this crap in the first place. No wonder all the sane people call this Websluts.
Donald Gene Mathieu is a complete psycho. He will do anything it takes to prove that he has power over you. He is a sick, sick man and needs to be stopped. Hopefully the police will find him before I do.
Sorry...I mean no offense. I do hope justice is done in this case. I haven't seen anyone here that does not want that so I don't understand what has upset you so much.
redeskimo
08-18-2005, 03:00 PM
I think this post is downright rude ...... I'm just going to ignore it .maybe it's all been too much for him . Gabby what you did was right , thanks for thr information . I love reading your posts .
lisag
08-18-2005, 03:19 PM
I think this post is downright rude ...... I'm just going to ignore it .maybe it's all been too much for him . Gabby what you did was right , thanks for thr information . I love reading your posts .
I agree.
SewingDeb
08-18-2005, 03:53 PM
I think this post is downright rude ...... I'm just going to ignore it .maybe it's all been too much for him . Gabby what you did was right , thanks for thr information . I love reading your posts .
I agree. Bless him.
mrjbird7
08-19-2005, 01:35 AM
You people think someone else is writing this, instead of me. And I am "downright rude"? OH PLEASE!!! You people are completely out of your minds.
Thank you but you can stay out of my business.
lisag
08-19-2005, 08:38 AM
You people think someone else is writing this, instead of me. And I am "downright rude"? OH PLEASE!!! You people are completely out of your minds.
Thank you but you can stay out of my business.
I don't think you should make assumptions. Some may have stated that you may possibly be someone else - only SOME. Don't lump us all together.
We all care about missing people, even those who you seem to have a problem with. We are all here for the same reason - because we care about the missing. This thread is supposed to be about Cindy - the mother of yur children - and what may have happened to her. Instead of that, you are turning it into something ugly. Instead of insulting everyone, why not focus on the real issue : CINDY
Gabby
08-19-2005, 08:43 AM
I don't think you should make assumptions. Some may have stated that you may possibly be someone else - only SOME. Don't lump us all together.
We all care about missing people, even those who you seem to have a problem with. We are all here for the same reason - because we care about the missing. This thread is supposed to be about Cindy - the mother of yur children - and what may have happened to her. Instead of that, you are turning it into something ugly. Instead of insulting everyone, why not focus on the real issue : CINDY
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
SewingDeb
08-19-2005, 09:35 AM
You people think someone else is writing this, instead of me. And I am "downright rude"? OH PLEASE!!! You people are completely out of your minds.
Thank you but you can stay out of my business.
I apologize for thinking someone else may have posted with your hat. I don't mean to add to your pain. I'm praying for justice for Cindy.
redeskimo
08-19-2005, 09:42 AM
I don't think you should make assumptions. Some may have stated that you may possibly be someone else - only SOME. Don't lump us all together.
We all care about missing people, even those who you seem to have a problem with. We are all here for the same reason - because we care about the missing. This thread is supposed to be about Cindy - the mother of yur children - and what may have happened to her. Instead of that, you are turning it into something ugly. Instead of insulting everyone, why not focus on the real issue : CINDY
Very well said . :clap: :clap: :clap:
lisan1373
08-19-2005, 10:37 AM
You people think someone else is writing this, instead of me. And I am "downright rude"? OH PLEASE!!! You people are completely out of your minds.
Thank you but you can stay out of my business.
Logic would tell me that if you think we are all "completely out of our minds" than you wouldn't continue frequenting the site?????
All the anger directed at us is just an erroneous projection & your true anger lies at Cindy's current husbands feet.
I pray that you, your children and family & friends will find the answers you deserve.
mrjbird7
08-20-2005, 09:04 PM
Wait a minute!! I have NOT tried to turn this into anything ugly. Not in the least. My love, my soulmate was stolen from me, due to my own weakness, and I have nobody else to blame for that but me. This creep, took her with the sole purpose of making another woman live in pain and servitude for his own personal demented pleasure. Not ever taking into account that she was a living, breathing, human being. He just used her because his last wife, who we had just recently learned about, had filed charges on him for beating the holy hell out of her. For the umpteenth time. She is now dead, also. He has an active warrant out for him in the state of Texas for this. Anaheim PD has completely botched this whole thing up from the get.
With all of that, they have "no reason to suspect foul play". Can you believe that? No, you can't. But it is all true. Yet, the one person, who came through and helped me get all of the attention that this has gotten, was being targeted by some floozie who you all seem to believe. Well, I can turn things around and I can make a three year old swear to anything, just by the questions I would ask that child. I DO NOT subscribe to any of that horsecrap that you people are taking for gospel.
Why not look at who is saying what. Then decide if it is true or not by weighing in the facts. NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO THAT happened while she was staying with me. All she did was to help my family and I get the much needed coverage for her case that it so very much needed. And deserved. Also, while she was here, did a whole lot of work for a couple of other organizations and yet they are turning on her also. SHAME ON YOU.
As I have said before, convictthebastard@yahoo.com will get ahold of me. There you will learn what has happened and what is happening from this point on. All I seem to be doing here, is getting up in an uproar.
Just take a look at most of the threads here on Websleuths. You will find that it is more of a chatroom for frustrated houisewives than anything else. I was misguided thinking I could get some help here. With the small exception of a couple of people, you know who you are, I have got nothing. But the other two people who did things for Cindy, I do not forget, and am forever in your debt.
With that being said, to those, I do not wish to offend, I sincerely apoligize. Also, thank you very much. You are the exception, and apparantly, not the rule. To those, GOD BLESS YOU. To the rest of you, it would get deleted.
There, now I have taken this message and given some information, maybe chatted a bit, and hopefully, really pissed some people off. Maybe, even made a couple of people think.
What do you know? The prick, has spoken. Can you imagine with all this anger inside of me, what DONALD GENE MATHIEU faces for the remainder of his life?
SewingDeb
08-20-2005, 09:10 PM
Did any of us say one bad thing about you or Cindy? Did we even question Mathieu's guilt? I know I didn't mean to upset you. You have enough on your mind...You did get help here and this is a good group.
mrjbird7
08-20-2005, 09:11 PM
I think it is slightly amusing how NOW, that I started getting crazy and absurd, there are more people than ever looking at this thread. Amazing!! No matter how stacked the tables are in favor of a beautiful woman disappearing are, the crazy lunatic ranting and raving will bring out more people. Every time. Period.
Well keep on coming. Tell all your friends. Cause you aint seen nothing yet!! This crazy lunatic will definitely keep you coming back.
And Lisa, who are you? You seem to be a newcomer here as well. Period.
concernedperson
08-20-2005, 09:20 PM
I think it is slightly amusing how NOW, that I started getting crazy and absurd, there are more people than ever looking at this thread. Amazing!! No matter how stacked the tables are in favor of a beautiful woman disappearing are, the crazy lunatic ranting and raving will bring out more people. Every time. Period.
Well keep on coming. Tell all your friends. Cause you aint seen nothing yet!! This crazy lunatic will definitely keep you coming back.
And Lisa, who are you? You seem to be a newcomer here as well. Period.
Oh, honey you aren't the first person to be outraged.It is just so frustrating when you know a crime has been commited and there are restrictions within the law and your certaincies aren't recognized. It is the ongoing pain and the knowledge that most of what you are saying is left in cyperspace.
Gabby
08-20-2005, 09:59 PM
I feel for Cindy and her family..... YES WB did help him... the facts there speak for themselves.... I pray daily that Cindy and others who are missing are found and brought home to the people who love them.
BUT the facts of all that was also going on with her and other posters here also speak for themselves....
I AM NOT A FLOOZIE OR A LIAR and I resent the fact you are accusing me of being either....
JBean
08-20-2005, 10:27 PM
hello mr jb7. I have exchanged pm's with you in the past and I started this thread. I have not been around for awhile though.Gabby is one of the most honest people I have ever known,she has strong character and I admire her.
There is no doubt that Lanie hurt and deceived some people. I know that to be true, so please don't attack our poster here, she was hurt.
But, many believe that Lanie may have helped a lot of people as well. Your words of support for Lanie are well taken here and I, for one, am happy to know that some of the work she claimed to do was real. It's a relief to many to hear you say that she did give you the help that you were looking for, because ultimately it wasn't about anyone she hurt here, it was more about people like you being deceived at the worst possible time in your life. I'm glad you weren't.
Everyone here holds out hope for you and your family, to find some justice.I have followed this case from the beginning and my heart aches for your loss. Sorry this has taken a detour, but it is important that you let people know Lanie helped you, but it's equally inportant for you to know there were those she did not.
God Bless you MrJbird7, please let us know how and if we can help you.
Pepper
08-20-2005, 11:09 PM
MrJbird7 please accept my sincere condolences for all you've been through.
I have no idea why the media latches onto some cases while ignoring others. I don't know your personal situation, but I know if I were missing one of my loved ones I would be a constant thorn in the backside of the local PD until I got some cooperation. I don't know how many of these ideas you've already tried, but a few things to think about:
1. Contact the Carole Sund Carrington Foundation - Kim Petersen. She was a prominent figure during the time Laci Peterson was missing.
2. Sit down with a detective in the PD of jurisdiction, and demand to know why they aren't investigating this as a crime.
3. Contact John Walsh, Marc Klass, Mark Fuhrman, Nancy Grace and anyone else you can think of who would be interested in helping move this case along.
4. Contact the OC Register, LA Times and LA TV stations and ask them to feature the story.
5. Contact John & Ken from KFI-640 radio (LA), and tell them your story. See if they would be willing to drum up some interest.
6. If you can afford to do so, hire a private investigator.
I am assuming that all the evidence suggests she is deceased - no credit card activity, bank account activity, cell phone activity, etc., right? Now how on earth can LE assume this is not a crime when someone disappears, leaving children behind, and has no access to money or credit cards? Absurd, to say the least.
Tom'sGirl
08-20-2005, 11:09 PM
I think it is slightly amusing how NOW, that I started getting crazy and absurd, there are more people than ever looking at this thread. Amazing!! No matter how stacked the tables are in favor of a beautiful woman disappearing are, the crazy lunatic ranting and raving will bring out more people. Every time. Period.
Well keep on coming. Tell all your friends. Cause you aint seen nothing yet!! This crazy lunatic will definitely keep you coming back.
And Lisa, who are you? You seem to be a newcomer here as well. Period.
mrj,
We know your aren't dealing with this very well, and rightfully so. How have your children held up this past year with the disappearance of their mother?
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 12:46 AM
Mrj, I gathered some media links and addresses for another case that I follow, and thought that maybe some of them might be helpful to you as well. You may have already reached out to some of these media outlets but if not, here is what I have been able to find, (I'm going to separate them into a few posts):
ABC News: Online news, breaking news, feature stories and more (http://abcnews.go.com/)
Your comments and opinions count! Please use the links below to direct your e-mail to the various ABCNEWS broadcasts and to ABCNEWS.com on the Web. Although it isn't always possible to answer every piece of e-mail, we'll do our best to respond to your concerns either directly or via our site.
(I couldn't get the links to post here so you'll have to click the link above, then click the "contact" link at the bottom of the page. That will bring up a list of links for 20/20, Good Morning America, Nightline, etc.)
You can also reach us at: ABCNews, 7 WEST 66th Street, New York, NY 10023.
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NBC.com > NBC News (http://www.nbc.com/nbc/NBC_News/)
Links for Today, Dateline NBC, etc.
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CBSNews.com / CBS News Video (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?CMP=KNC-2005googlecampaign)
Links to 48 Hours, 60 Minutes, etc.
CBS.com | Feedback (http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml) (this is what it gives me when I click "contact us")
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 12:47 AM
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Newswatch@foxnews.com (Newswatch@foxnews.com)
(Of the above programs, the ones that I've seen that spotlight stories like this one are On the Record with Greta, Hannity & Colmes, At Large With Geraldo Rivera, and once in a while Bill O'Reilly, depending on the angle. Some of the shows I haven't seen so I can't really speak about their programming.)
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 12:48 AM
CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/index.aol.html)
CNN.com - Contact Us (http://www.cnn.com/feedback/dotcom/)
CNN.com - Headline News (http://www.cnn.com/HLN/)
Prime News Tonight: CNN.com - Contact Us (http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?25)
Nancy Grace: CNN.com - Nancy Grace (http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/)
Questions & comments to Nancy Grace: CNN.com - Contact Us (http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24)
If you are a crime victim or someone who knows about an injustice or case that needs a spotlight, call "Nancy Grace" at 1-888-GRACE-01 or send information via e-mail to "Nancy Grace (http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24)."
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 12:49 AM
Congress.org - Find National and Local Media (http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/)
SewingDeb
08-21-2005, 12:58 AM
Jersey Girl ---- you are wonderful! This is the kind of help he needs.
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 09:37 AM
Jersey Girl ---- you are wonderful! This is the kind of help he needs.I just wish that there was more that I could do. I've been so fortunate; I can't even begin to imagine this kind of pain. MrJ, you and all of those that love Cindy are in my heart and my prayers.
Mrjbird7:
You said that this guy is wanted in Texas too? Is this something new? His previous wife is dead? Are there any links that we could read about that? I hadn't seen that she was deceased. (I thought she had dropped the charges. )
The suggestion of contacting Jon and Ken of KFI is excellent, Pepper! I don't believe I had thought of that. Jason, did you try them? (KFI640)
Mrjbird7, please, if there are additional facts in this case that we don't already have, let us know (if you can). It's not for curiousity that I ask this, but ammunition to try to get the media's attention.
There are too many of these cases where the perp ends up getting away with one or two significant others before he gets caught. IF this guy did this to Cindy (and IMHO he did!), and IF he's done it before, he'll do it again and again and again until he's stopped.
I know you're hurt by what happened to Cindy. You have my deepest sympathy. But don't let your anger at this other person get in the way of getting justice for Cindy and you too! all of her family! If we're made aware of more details we can use to try to get attention, the better, IMO.
One more thing, Mrjbird7,.........we're not all just housewives wasting our time on the computer. Most of us really care about these victims. I know that I don't always come on here and tell everyone who I contacted or sent an email to and I'm sure there are others who are the same way. But many of us do try in our little way to be of help with many of these cases. It's not our fault that the Anaheim PD has botched this case from DAY 1 (IMHO) and it's not our fault that the local paper just doesn't seem to give a cra* or that AMW won't pick-up on this case eventhough there's a child involved that was harmed by this fugitive in addition to the mysterious disappearnce of Cindy. Please don't hold your anger against the entire Websleuth community,.........we really do care!!
Be well, Mrjbird7.
JMHO
fran
PS...JerseyGirl, great links. I know MrJBird has contacted some of these, but perhaps there's a few there he hadn't been made aware of.........fran
Pepper
08-21-2005, 01:51 PM
I just wish that there was more that I could do. I've been so fortunate; I can't even begin to imagine this kind of pain. MrJ, you and all of those that love Cindy are in my heart and my prayers.
JG it is very thoughtful of you to post all those links. Unfortunately, we as posters are limited in what we can do to help. It is up to the family and friends of the victim to unite and wage the necessary war to get LE and the media to listen and be committed to finding Cindy or finding justice for her killer. They know the facts. We are just hearing second-hand information. They (the family) has the vested interest and is most convincing.
Marc Klass, John Walsh, Susan Levy, Beth Twitty - all were/are relentless in the pursuit of gaining media and law enforcement attention. Not all were successful in getting the answers they wanted, but none of these cases would have come to our attention if it were not for the family demanding it.
Until the family demands accountability from LE and puts relentless pressure on the media, this case may not get the attention it deserves.
I strongly urge MrJ to contact the Carol Sund/Carrington Foundation for guidance and support.
http://www.carolesundfoundation.com/
Mrjbird7 you have my deepest simpathy for your loss.
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 02:12 PM
It is up to the family and friends of the victim to unite and wage the necessary war to get LE and the media to listen and be committed to finding Cindy or finding justice for her killer.I totally agree, and I really posted the links for him to use as he feels comfortable and sees fit. I first saw Cindy's story on one of these shows but figured it can't hurt to have as many links as possible in one location. (It doesn't hurt for other people to reach out and ask for updates but you are 100% right that the family will have the most impact on getting them to pick up the story.)
Here is a statement from an article regarding a different case:
... Experts said another reason some cases get more national attention is because family members and police push for it.
"If you're doing press conferences and cooperating with the media, that'll play a role," Meyer said. "You see that with Mrs. Holloway. Things that the media is invited to, they go."
... Erin Bruno, case manager for the National Center for Missing Adults, said the center advises families to try to keep pushing media coverage...
Local couple still missing since February (phillyBurbs.com) (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112-08192005-529754.html)
FWIW, I've followed this case from a few days after it happened. I live in OC, Calif. There has been hardly any coverage and eventhough the family has tried to keep interest up, it just hasn't helped. Heck, the OCRegister that covers this area still refers to Conner Peterson as a 'fetus.'
The Sund Foundation has offered a $5,000 reward, that sparked temporary renewed interest a few months ago. That's about the time it also appeared on NG or Greta (sorry, can't remember which). They didn't tell the whole story and if you put everything together, it's much more compelling than just a 'missing person' case, IMO.
The last I had heard, prior to mrjbird's recent post, LE did now suspect foul play; but that was only after they'd learned of the husband's spousal abuse in Texas and that was months after Cindy had gone missing and he'd been arrested for abusing his (and Cindy's) six year old little boy. It's too late to check the family home because the husband put all of Cindy's stuff into storage, didn't pay the bill and everything got sold at auction. Now the husband has absconded from LE in his sentencing for abusing his child and he also wouldn't let the boy go with any family members so he's now in foster care (the last I heard).
When I first heard of this case, LE did not suspect foul play, although it wasn't the husband who reported her missing, it was her employer. Everything reeked of foul play but even the local paper just didn't care. When she went missing, supposedly, all she had was the clothes on her back and that was a bikini! Her purse, cell phone, credit cards, keys, were in the house and her car was there too.
This case is a mess and really needs help. I can understand mrjbird's frustration. But, I wrote to AMW and tried to use the 'sympathy' play with the child etc., told them the whole story and gave them the contact at the Anaheim PD, after all, the husband is a fugitive. I even mentioned Cindy missed the birth of her last grandchild, named Adam (btw), and that didn't do any good either. Every time I see an AMW episode that they've played over and over and over, I get frustrated that they've ignored this case. It's so obvious what's happened here, IMO, but no one seems to care. It really breaks your heart, you know.
JMHO
fran
Pepper
08-21-2005, 02:55 PM
Fran, I don't live in OC anymore, so I'm in no position to judge the media reaction or how involved the family is. You say that you contacted AMW. But has the family contacted AMW or any of the other resources out there?
What I am saying is that if it were my loved one, I would be camping out at the police station. I would be picketing, I would be flooding the OC Register and all the TV stations with relentless email. I would demand attention, and I would not give up until I was comfortable that everything possible was being done to solve this case and bring about an arrest. Heck, I'd even get arrested myself for disturbing the peace, if that's what it took. I would be in their faces so much that I couldn't be ignored. That is what Beth Twitty is doing, and by gosh she certainly is getting the media attention.
This situation calls for an all-out war (not violent) on the LE and media. It means organization, getting together all family and friends and developing a strategy to get attention.
This situation calls for an all-out war (not violent) on the LE and media. It means organization, getting together all family and friends and developing a strategy to get attention.
Pepper:
Well, I went back over mrjbird's posts and it seems he's done just about all he can do. It seems their adult daughter has done quite a bit also. Part of the problem is he's no longer married to Cindy so when checking with the APD, he's not like family, just a citizen, and I think that's probably how they treat him. The adult children are young and they have families that take up their time. I believe Cindy has relatives in the Valley, but that's so far away it makes it hard. FWIW, he did try to get KFI interested, didn't seem to work. He tried the governor, having press conferences, etc., etc., and is getting the run around. BTW, it was Greta Cindy's story was told and I believe that was from Jason.
The OCReg didn't even handle this as a big deal when it first happened. She was last seen on Saturday night by anyone other than her husband. It wasn't until Monday morning that she was reported missing by her work. Then it wasn't until Thursday that the Register had it on page four of the 'local section.' It's like they just don't care.
I guess that we, as individual, concerned citizens, just like Jason, could try and organize a campaign to get this story heard. I don't know, start with all the blogs and write to fox, cnn, ng, amw, local stations? What if we didn't give up? Would they listen to us? Rather than us looking at so many missing each day, picking just one, ehhh.....this one........, ......and try and get it heard?
I honestly have always been angry at how this case was handled. From the first contact of Anaheim PD,(she's a fellow city worker, for goodness sake!), to the newspaper, to the local tv stations. They've all dropped the ball. Just like with Laci's case, the longer you looked at this one, the stranger the obvious 'person of interest' acted and the more bizarre the circumstances.
I dunno, what do you think? I could try again. We could try. Just make copies of our letter, send it to everyone and anyone we can think of, thanks JerseyGirl, :clap: ..........try all the blogs we can find......tell the whole story and see what happens.
Just an idea. Not because mrjbird is angry :p (LOL, JK, don't get in a {huff}), but because this case deserves attention and Cindy deserves some justice and her son deserves to be with his family and .............100's of more reasons. But, the family needs answers!
JMHO
fran
JBean
08-21-2005, 05:08 PM
Hi Fran. great post.
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Here is a very good blog. The blogger seems to have a soft spot for cases that aren't receiving the attention that they should. He's the one that got a virtually unreported, unsolved murder case started here, and it is now in its own forum: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - Janet Abaroa, Durham, NC (http://websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=76). He was also recently on television, (I believe FOX News). Here's the link to his blog:
The Dark Side of Planet Huff (http://www.planethuff.com/darkside/)
SewingDeb
08-21-2005, 09:13 PM
Fran...great post.
Jersey Girl, this case sounds like it is right up Steve's alley. Perfect!
JBean
08-21-2005, 09:19 PM
Here is a very good blog. The blogger seems to have a soft spot for cases that aren't receiving the attention that they should. He's the one that got a virtually unreported, unsolved murder case started here, and it is now in its own forum: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - Janet Abaroa, Durham, NC (http://websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=76). He was also recently on television, (I believe FOX News). Here's the link to his blog:
The Dark Side of Planet Huff (http://www.planethuff.com/darkside/)Oh you're right on JG. Steve is a great guy.
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-21-2005, 10:01 PM
Oh you're right on JG. Steve is a great guy.He really is. And a good heart.
Kelly
08-22-2005, 02:19 AM
Cindy's sister, Kim, asked me to post this for her. She is new to the PC, and can read here, but is not a registered user yet. She wanted to answer some of your questions, and to clear a few things up. I will paraphrase what she said, but will not change any content.
Don is not wanted for anything in TX that has to do with his ex-wife. He was in CA with Cindy when she (the ex-wife) died. He is wanted for a crime, but that crime has nothing to do with abuse.
Kim is in the process of going higher up in the police dept. In the beginning, she was naive, and did not realize there might be a problem with the way in which the case was handled. She expects a new developement soon.
The family has contacted all of the news shows that have been listed including Fox, Nancy Grace, and Ken and John. Kim says that when the media contacts the police, they are told they do not suspect foul play, so it goes no further than that. The family has been told numerous times: "She not 17, young, and pregnant." The family has tried over and over to get press.
Kim feels like they have a good PI whose uncovered information will eventually result in the perpetrator's not being able to get off.
Kim is supposed to appear on Greta one more time, but it has been rescheduled. She is waiting to hear the air date. They are also to be on NG on Sept. 1st.
While she does not live in Anaheim, Kim does stay in constant contact with the police.
Some local TV stations recently announced that the family had worked to increase the reward for Cindy to $13,000. With the $5,000 from the Carole Sund Foundation, that brings it to a total reward of $18,000.
In regards to the "fellow city worker" comment, Kim says that the mayor and city council denied a request to help wioth reward money. Upon their 1st request, they were ignored, and the next time, after 2 months of waiting, the mayor said "he doesn't think they should get involved in that".
Thank you.
Kelly Jolkowski, Mother of Missing Jason Jolkowski
President and Founder
Project Jason
www.projectjason.org
http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/
Bobbisangel
08-22-2005, 06:11 AM
Wait a minute!! I have NOT tried to turn this into anything ugly. Not in the least. My love, my soulmate was stolen from me, due to my own weakness, and I have nobody else to blame for that but me. This creep, took her with the sole purpose of making another woman live in pain and servitude for his own personal demented pleasure. Not ever taking into account that she was a living, breathing, human being. He just used her because his last wife, who we had just recently learned about, had filed charges on him for beating the holy hell out of her. For the umpteenth time. She is now dead, also. He has an active warrant out for him in the state of Texas for this. Anaheim PD has completely botched this whole thing up from the get.
With all of that, they have "no reason to suspect foul play". Can you believe that? No, you can't. But it is all true. Yet, the one person, who came through and helped me get all of the attention that this has gotten, was being targeted by some floozie who you all seem to believe. Well, I can turn things around and I can make a three year old swear to anything, just by the questions I would ask that child. I DO NOT subscribe to any of that horsecrap that you people are taking for gospel.
Why not look at who is saying what. Then decide if it is true or not by weighing in the facts. NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO THAT happened while she was staying with me. All she did was to help my family and I get the much needed coverage for her case that it so very much needed. And deserved. Also, while she was here, did a whole lot of work for a couple of other organizations and yet they are turning on her also. SHAME ON YOU.
As I have said before, convictthebastard@yahoo.com will get ahold of me. There you will learn what has happened and what is happening from this point on. All I seem to be doing here, is getting up in an uproar.
Just take a look at most of the threads here on Websleuths. You will find that it is more of a chatroom for frustrated houisewives than anything else. I was misguided thinking I could get some help here. With the small exception of a couple of people, you know who you are, I have got nothing. But the other two people who did things for Cindy, I do not forget, and am forever in your debt.
With that being said, to those, I do not wish to offend, I sincerely apoligize. Also, thank you very much. You are the exception, and apparantly, not the rule. To those, GOD BLESS YOU. To the rest of you, it would get deleted.
There, now I have taken this message and given some information, maybe chatted a bit, and hopefully, really pissed some people off. Maybe, even made a couple of people think.
What do you know? The prick, has spoken. Can you imagine with all this anger inside of me, what DONALD GENE MATHIEU faces for the remainder of his life?
I don't have a clue about most of the things you are talking about concerning other people on here and what you think they have done to you. But I do have a few things to say to you.
You talk about Cindy's husband stealing her away from you. I agree that he probably has done something to her and he is a creep BUT I think you need to realize that Cindy chose to leave you for him. I don't know the details of your marriage to her or what went wrong but no one can steal someone else's wife. Evidentally they were together long enough to have a child and it doesn't sound like the little boy is a baby. I think you are angry at yourself but that isn't doing you any good. The past is the past and you can beat yourself to death over it but it won't change it. Taking your anger out on other people on here isn't helping either.
You were rude in your post. If I wrote to you like that you would be furious at me. People on here give their opinions and whether we agree or not isn't the point. I resent you calling us websluts. That wasn't rude??? Maybe it would be better for everyone if you didn't post anymore on here. Most of the people who post on here are compassionate people who care about the missing and their families. Some of us have lived our own nightmares. You aren't the exception. My heart goes out to Cindy's children. I hope that she is found and that her husband is convicted. You will get a lot further in getting cooperation to help find Cindy if you don't act like an ass. Do you act like this with LE? To them you are probably no more than an ex-husband who can't control his anger. They will blow you off. Now if you talk to them like a civilized human being they might listen. I agree that LE hasn't done the things that they should have in this case but there just might be one humane detective on the force who will listen to you if you don't confront him/her with fire coming out of your mouth. Think about it.
Ntegrity
08-22-2005, 07:36 AM
No wonder all the sane people call this Websluts.
Sane people ... like Lanie? That was her pet name for this forum.
Gabby
08-22-2005, 08:40 AM
I feel for Cindy and her family..... YES WB did help him... the facts there speak for themselves.... I pray daily that Cindy and others who are missing are found and brought home to the people who love them.
BUT the facts of all that was also going on with her and other posters here also speak for themselves....
I AM NOT A FLOOZIE OR A LIAR and I resent the fact you are accusing me of being either....
I have noticed that the post refering to me as a "Floozie" and everyone believing me has been edited... Thank you to whomever did that....
lisan1373
08-22-2005, 10:39 AM
I think it is slightly amusing how NOW, that I started getting crazy and absurd, there are more people than ever looking at this thread. Amazing!! No matter how stacked the tables are in favor of a beautiful woman disappearing are, the crazy lunatic ranting and raving will bring out more people. Every time. Period.
Well keep on coming. Tell all your friends. Cause you aint seen nothing yet!! This crazy lunatic will definitely keep you coming back.
And Lisa, who are you? You seem to be a newcomer here as well. Period.
Just because I don't respond to this or any other forum does not mean that I am a 'newcomer'. I've kept to date with Cindy's and other's cases... Just because someone doesn't respond does not mean that your (or any other cases) are being neglected or overlooked. There is a lot a 'newcomer' can do without having to broadcast... Making certain assumptions will only hinder the investigation.
SewingDeb
08-22-2005, 11:36 AM
Just because I don't respond to this or any other forum does not mean that I am a 'newcomer'. I've kept to date with Cindy's and other's cases... Just because someone doesn't respond does not mean that your (or any other cases) are being neglected or overlooked. There is a lot a 'newcomer' can do without having to broadcast... Making certain assumptions will only hinder the investigation.
Exactly. I am sure many of us who are not that new, check on all the cases, do a lot of praying for the missing to be found, but just don't post everytime they read and don't live close enough to do any actual hands on helping. I posted about Cindy on another forum and got a discussion going about it, early on in the case. Many people are aware of her case.
Cindy's sister, Kim, asked me to post this for her. She is new to the PC, and can read here, but is not a registered user yet. She wanted to answer some of your questions, and to clear a few things up. I will paraphrase what she said, but will not change any content.
Don is not wanted for anything in TX that has to do with his ex-wife. He was in CA with Cindy when she (the ex-wife) died. He is wanted for a crime, but that crime has nothing to do with abuse.
Kim is in the process of going higher up in the police dept. In the beginning, she was naive, and did not realize there might be a problem with the way in which the case was handled. She expects a new developement soon.
The family has contacted all of the news shows that have been listed including Fox, Nancy Grace, and Ken and John. Kim says that when the media contacts the police, they are told they do not suspect foul play, so it goes no further than that. The family has been told numerous times: "She not 17, young, and pregnant." The family has tried over and over to get press.
Kim feels like they have a good PI whose uncovered information will eventually result in the perpetrator's not being able to get off.
Kim is supposed to appear on Greta one more time, but it has been rescheduled. She is waiting to hear the air date. They are also to be on NG on Sept. 1st.
While she does not live in Anaheim, Kim does stay in constant contact with the police.
Some local TV stations recently announced that the family had worked to increase the reward for Cindy to $13,000. With the $5,000 from the Carole Sund Foundation, that brings it to a total reward of $18,000.
In regards to the "fellow city worker" comment, Kim says that the mayor and city council denied a request to help wioth reward money. Upon their 1st request, they were ignored, and the next time, after 2 months of waiting, the mayor said "he doesn't think they should get involved in that".
Thank you.
Kelly Jolkowski, Mother of Missing Jason Jolkowski
President and Founder
Project Jason
www.projectjason.org
http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/
Thank you for your reply Kelly and thanks to Kim (since she can read this), for the update and corrections.
What I don't understand is per a Mar.28 news article, the APD had said:
Anaheim police say a man has become 'person of interest' in his wife's disappearance seven months ago.
By JOHN McDONALD
The Orange County Register
ANAHEIM Police today identified the husband of Cindy Casteel Mathieu, a mother of three who's been missing seven months, as a "person of interest" in their investigation and said a $5,000 reward has been offered for help in finding her.
"He's living like a transient, with friends, and he's been uncooperative to our investigation," said Anaheim police Sgt. Gregg Palmer, who is supervising the investigation of Donald Gene Mathieu, 42. Mathieu, who has a history of domestic violence, is the last person known to have seen his wife. She was wearing a bathing suit when last seen, and the suit has never been found.
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/03/28/sections/breaking_news/article_459823.php
How can they say to the news agencies that have contacted them, they do not suspect foul play? :doh: ...That makes absolutely no sense and completly contradicts their Mar. 28th statement. You can't say you have a 'person of interest,' and not suspect foul play.
I'm glad to see that the family was able to hire a private investigator and that he has come up with 'evidence,' that will benefit the case. I will look forward to the additional 'press' this case apparently is going to receive in the not-to-distant future. I hope this press will aid the family in finding their answers and locating Cindy.
If there's anything Kim or any of Cindy's family would like us to do, just let us know. Although we don't know them or Cindy, we do care.
JMHO
fran
Sorry for the consecutive post but thanks JBean and SewingDeb. :blowkiss:
JG, Steve seems to have his hands full, but I will try to see if he'd be interested in writing about this, unless someone has already contacted him? :confused: ....I have corresponded with him in the past, although he doesn't know it........I wrote under another name directly from his site. :D
I'm glad this case is finally getting some movement. What you see is not always what you get, as we aren't always privvy to what is going on behind the scenes. I'm glad Cindy's sister is able to get someone to listen to her and I'm looking forward to this case being solved. Jelly, you know this case has been a sore spot with me for a long time, as well as you,........guess it's because it's (somewhat) local and we were here from the beginning.
Glad more people are taking an interest in this case, hope the media will follow suit.
JMHO
fran
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-22-2005, 04:36 PM
JG, Steve seems to have his hands full, but I will try to see if he'd be interested in writing about this, unless someone has already contacted him? I haven't. So if you're compelled to contact him, that would be wonderful. :)
Tom'sGirl
08-22-2005, 06:04 PM
Cindy's sister, Kim, asked me to post this for her. She is new to the PC, and can read here, but is not a registered user yet. She wanted to answer some of your questions, and to clear a few things up. I will paraphrase what she said, but will not change any content.
I searched to see if anything had been posted on Cindy's diappearnace by Cindy's Class Mates as that's what I would do if I had a classmate that went missing I did find a post and posting it here: There is a mis-spelling of Donald's last name, but another post says Cindy only had a brother..........confused here :confused:
From: XXXXXXXXXXXX 1979 (http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/profile/index.jsp?regId=414979311&tab=places)Sep 8 2004 4:52:51PM To: ALL (1) PLEASE KEEP CINDY ELLIS IN YOUR PRAYERS
IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION YESTERDAY THAT CINDY MATHIER,
THE ANAHEIM WOMEN NOW MISSING FOR THREE WEEKS AS OF
AUGUST 14th, IS INDEED "CINDY ELLIS." MY WORST FEARS WERE
COMFIRMED WHEN I SKIMED THROUGH THE 20th YEAR REUNION BOOKLET. PICTURED IS: CINDY CASTEEL ELLIS & DONALD MATHIER.
PLEASE KEEP HER THREE CHILDREN IN YOUR PRAYERS AS THE WAIT FOR HER SAFE RETURN.
From: XXXXXXXXXX 1976 (http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/profile/index.jsp?regId=303801061&tab=places)Sep 10 2004 11:57:17AM To: XXXXXXXXXXXXX1979 (2) PLEASE KEEP CINDY ELLIS IN YOUR PRAYERS
Was Cindy related to Robin Ellis?
Jan http://graphics.classmates.com/graphics/mboard/null.gif
http://graphics.classmates.com/graphics/mboard/null.gif From:XXXXXXXXXXXl 1983 (http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/profile/index.jsp?regId=464759101&tab=places)Sep 15 2004 3:37:47PM To: XXXXXXXXXXXXX 1976 (3) PLEASE KEEP CINDY ELLIS IN YOUR PRAYERS
No, Cindy has a an older brother Andy. It is just the two of them
SewingDeb
08-23-2005, 08:10 AM
Maybe that alumni just didn't know about a sister?
lisag
08-23-2005, 09:10 AM
Odd...
Tom'sGirl
08-23-2005, 03:20 PM
Maybe that alumni just didn't know about a sister?SD, this could very well be. I have a much younger than me brother that a lot of my class mates didn't know I had unless they were close friends. We tend to remember the brother & sisters that were going to school at the same time.
They must have gotten along well enough at that period of time, or I doubt that he would have gone with her to her reunion.
Also, this Kim that contacted Kelly could be a half or step-sister as Cindy''s last name in High School was Ellis, but her father who reportedly lives in Oceanside last name is Orlowski.
In any event, if the information from Kim is factual the allegations of Cindy's husband being involved in his first wifes death are not factual and it leaves me with a strange feeling about mrjbird as to why he would make such a statement :waitasec:
Also, of Cindys three children mrjbird is the father of only Kalani, not all of the kids as he states "the mother of my beautiful children". I've read another post by mrj where he posts he is semi-retired which struck me stange for a 43 year old.
I live only 16 miles from where mrj resides, and phoning him is a local call, however, after some of the names he had called the posters, saying "stay out of my business", and his seemingly out of control attitude I have thought better of contacting him to help.
CaliKid
08-23-2005, 05:32 PM
If Cindy's step-father lives in Oceanside, where did she grow up? Where did she get the "Matthieu" part of her name? Just wondering since I live in a neighboring city and wonder if she's a local girl.
Tom'sGirl
08-23-2005, 06:29 PM
If Cindy's step-father lives in Oceanside, where did she grow up? Where did she get the "Matthieu" part of her name? Just wondering since I live in a neighboring city and wonder if she's a local girl.
Hi Cali, Cindy went to high school in La Mirada, CA, and her name in school was Cindy Lou Ellis. She may have also attended Western High School in Anaheim, CA as she was wearing a pendent with the schools name when she went missing.
She has a daughter, Sarah who is about 22, and don't know who her father is.
She later at some point married mrj whos name is Jason Casteel, they had a son Kalani, and were divorced after 10-11 years.
She had a son by Donald Gene Mathieu in about 1998, and ended up marrying him in 2003.
Bobbisangel
08-23-2005, 07:35 PM
SD, this could very well be. I have a much younger than me brother that a lot of my class mates didn't know I had unless they were close friends. We tend to remember the brother & sisters that were going to school at the same time.
They must have gotten along well enough at that period of time, or I doubt that he would have gone with her to her reunion.
Also, this Kim that contacted Kelly could be a half or step-sister as Cindy''s last name in High School was Ellis, but her father who reportedly lives in Oceanside last name is Orlowski.
In any event, if the information from Kim is factual the allegations of Cindy's husband being involved in his first wifes death are not factual and it leaves me with a strange feeling about mrjbird as to why he would make such a statement :waitasec:
Also, of Cindys three children mrjbird is the father of only Kalani, not all of the kids as he states "the mother of my beautiful children". I've read another post by mrj where he posts he is semi-retired which struck me stange for a 43 year old.
I live only 16 miles from where mrj resides, and phoning him is a local call, however, after some of the names he had called the posters, saying "stay out of my business", and his seemingly out of control attitude I have thought better of contacting him to help.
Tom'sGirl, Kim sounds legit to me. It doesn't sound like she is consumed with bitterness/anger and is sticking with the facts of this case. I'm glad that she set the record straight about the ex-wife. Cindy being missing this long is horrible enough without someone making up things to add to the story.
The ex made the statement in an earlier post that he is used to getting what he wants and he also made another statement that really bothered me...something about being able to make a 5 yr old say whatever he wanted him to say...my words but the same. How old was Cindy's little boy when his mother went missing? This ex says what a nice little boy Sam is so I gather he has been around him...probably at his daughter's home. I hope he wasn't talking about messing with the little boy's head at some point. I don't know what else he could have been referring to.
I'm getting the idea that this man may be more of a hinderance to the investigation than a help.
mrjbird7
08-23-2005, 08:13 PM
In any event, if the information from Kim is factual the allegations of Cindy's husband being involved in his first wifes death are not factual and it leaves me with a strange feeling about mrjbird as to why he would make such a statement :waitasec:
I never said he was involved in her death. I only said she was deceased. I did say that he beat the holy hell out of her and that is a matter of court record in Texas. Do not think that I would post anything untrue. I will work it to my advantage you can bet on that.
About all the posts as of late, NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL HELP!!!! Thank you all very much. I am sorry that I have to get this way, but my God. Look at the response!!! Now, you can all wonder why Jerry Springer has a TV show.
Thank You One and All, from the bottom of my heart. I truly do apoligize, but look. 3 pages in one year. A little anger and we got 3 pages in one week. Just look at the content of those 3 pages of posts this last week. That is what I call QUALITY!!! Nothing but!!
Thank You All Once Again,
from the bottom of my heart,
Jason Casteel.
P.S. The children were all stepchildren, however always were considered to be my children. Even long after the divorce and to this day, we are all very close. The oldest daughter is fortunate enough to have her own father as well. He and I are good friends and involved in all the childrens lives together.
Bobbisangel
08-23-2005, 08:54 PM
P.S. The children were all stepchildren, however always were considered to be my children. Even long after the divorce and to this day, we are all very close. The oldest daughter is fortunate enough to have her own father as well. He and I are good friends and involved in all the childrens lives together.
Didn't you say something else here:
In case you were wondering, I am the former husband of Cindy's. Jason Casteel. The father of her 18 year old son, Kalani, and the step-father of her 22 year old daughter, Sarah.
Sam belongs to Cindy and her husband from what I understand. Which wouldn't make him your stepchild.
SewingDeb
08-23-2005, 10:32 PM
SD, this could very well be. I have a much younger than me brother that a lot of my class mates didn't know I had unless they were close friends. We tend to remember the brother & sisters that were going to school at the same time.
They must have gotten along well enough at that period of time, or I doubt that he would have gone with her to her reunion.
Also, this Kim that contacted Kelly could be a half or step-sister as Cindy''s last name in High School was Ellis, but her father who reportedly lives in Oceanside last name is Orlowski.
In any event, if the information from Kim is factual the allegations of Cindy's husband being involved in his first wifes death are not factual and it leaves me with a strange feeling about mrjbird as to why he would make such a statement :waitasec:
Also, of Cindys three children mrjbird is the father of only Kalani, not all of the kids as he states "the mother of my beautiful children". I've read another post by mrj where he posts he is semi-retired which struck me stange for a 43 year old.
I live only 16 miles from where mrj resides, and phoning him is a local call, however, after some of the names he had called the posters, saying "stay out of my business", and his seemingly out of control attitude I have thought better of contacting him to help.
I can well understand those feelings.
mrjbird7
08-23-2005, 11:30 PM
Both Sarah and Kalani were born of different farhers. Sarah still has hers as I have stated. Kalani has always considered me his father. Though, both children were born prior to my having met Cindy, I have always treated them and considered them my own. Kalani took my last name and I am his father as far as he and I and everyone else in the famkly is concerned. Sammy was born after Cindy and I had divorced and I have always been considered "lifelong friend of Sammy's". Don't try to discredit me. I am 100% genuine in my feelings for this family. Just as all of the kids are in their feelings for me.
Thank You.
mrjbird7
08-23-2005, 11:34 PM
I guess I should have said both children. I had stated in an earlier post that I would have been proud to have been Sammy's father. Which was posted after an article in the Orange County Register had mis-named Sammy as Samuel Casteel.
FYI only.
Bobbisangel
08-24-2005, 12:25 AM
Both Sarah and Kalani were born of different farhers. Sarah still has hers as I have stated. Kalani has always considered me his father. Though, both children were born prior to my having met Cindy, I have always treated them and considered them my own. Kalani took my last name and I am his father as far as he and I and everyone else in the famkly is concerned. Sammy was born after Cindy and I had divorced and I have always been considered "lifelong friend of Sammy's". Don't try to discredit me. I am 100% genuine in my feelings for this family. Just as all of the kids are in their feelings for me.
Thank You.
I'm not trying to discredit you in the least. Just pointed out two different things that you said in two different posts. I was aware that Sammy isn't your child...that he belongs to Cindy and her husband. A lot of men come into childrens lives when the children are young and end up calling the man "dad"
and taking the man's last name. Especially in this day and age of dead beat dads who walk away and never look back. If the men are good men the children are very fortunate.
Tom'sGirl
08-24-2005, 01:37 PM
Tom'sGirl, Kim sounds legit to me. It doesn't sound like she is consumed with bitterness/anger and is sticking with the facts of this case. I'm glad that she set the record straight about the ex-wife. Cindy being missing this long is horrible enough without someone making up things to add to the story.
The ex made the statement in an earlier post that he is used to getting what he wants and he also made another statement that really bothered me...something about being able to make a 5 yr old say whatever he wanted him to say...my words but the same. How old was Cindy's little boy when his mother went missing? This ex says what a nice little boy Sam is so I gather he has been around him...probably at his daughter's home. I hope he wasn't talking about messing with the little boy's head at some point. I don't know what else he could have been referring to.
I'm getting the idea that this man may be more of a hinderance to the investigation than a help.
Bobbi, I have absolutely no reason to doubt that Kim is legit and I'm glad to hear from an actual family member, not an EX-husband of years ago who states his Soul Mate was stolen from him.
To call any of the members here names, then saying "stay out of his business" when in fact he first posted here, was childish at best, AND FREAKIN RUDE.
If I were the LE handling this case I don't think I would put much stock into a NON-family member unless Cindy had no family, BUT SHE DOES, and had been with Sarah & Kalani prior to going missing and in fact left Sammy with them that day.
Sammy was 6 years old when his mom went missing, and now is 7 which indicates Cindy married his dad when he was 5. In spite of how big of an AZZ Donald may have been or is, it obviously was Cindy's choice to remain with him for those 5 years and then marry him.
The fact remains that no matter how poor of choices Cindy may have made, SHE STILL REMAINS MISSING, and that is what's the issue here, and we all want to help her family in any way that we can, not console someone's wounded heart or ego.
CaliKid
08-24-2005, 05:32 PM
Hi Cali, Cindy went to high school in La Mirada, CA, and her name in school was Cindy Lou Ellis. She may have also attended Western High School in Anaheim, CA as she was wearing a pendent with the schools name when she went missing.
She has a daughter, Sarah who is about 22, and don't know who her father is.
She later at some point married mrj whos name is Jason Casteel, they had a son Kalani, and were divorced after 10-11 years.
She had a son by Donald Gene Mathieu in about 1998, and ended up marrying him in 2003.
Thanks Tom'sGirl. I live in Vista, next door to Oceanside. Casteel and Matthieu are local names.
Pepper
08-24-2005, 05:44 PM
MY BAD I am still a floozie in post #102
:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: Gabby, don't let it get to you! Everyone who knows you loves you!! :blowkiss:
SpongeBathHotPants
08-24-2005, 06:12 PM
Gabby, I don't know you at all but I don't think that you are a floozy and even if you are it is none of mrjbird7's business. And as a floozy myself I take offence to him calling non-floozies by that title. (Sorry, couldn’t help it):crazy:
mrjbird7, I don't know you and I have been blessed with the fact that I have not had a loved one go missing but I think that it is unfair to take your apparent anger out on people that 1. You don't know and 2. That are just trying to help. The only way that your ex wife can be found is with the help of others and I don't think it is fair of you to attack the people who have never met your ex and still care for her well being. JMO and I stand by it. I think you owe a few people an apology.
Tom'sGirl
08-24-2005, 06:53 PM
Thanks Tom'sGirl. I live in Vista, next door to Oceanside. Casteel and Matthieu are local names.YW Cali, I know Vista well, my brother lives in Carlsbad and his daughter, my niece lives in Vista............NICE weather :)
ETA: I should have mentioned that Cindys adult children live in La Mirada according to news posts and since Cindy was born in Long Beach think they mainly have stayed in that general area. In one article it mentions her brother Andrew who lives in Fullerton.
Jason, the EX however is listed as going to high school up in northern CA (FairOaks) and listed himself along with his photo at Bella Vista HS.
Bobbisangel
08-24-2005, 08:32 PM
[QUOTE=Tom'sGirl]Bobbi, I have absolutely no reason to doubt that Kim is legit and I'm glad to hear from an actual family member, not an EX-husband of years ago who states his Soul Mate was stolen from him.
To call any of the members here names, then saying "stay out of his business" when in fact he first posted here, was childish at best, AND FREAKIN RUDE.
If I were the LE handling this case I don't think I would put much stock into a NON-family member unless Cindy had no family, BUT SHE DOES, and had been with Sarah & Kalani prior to going missing and in fact left Sammy with them that day.
Sammy was 6 years old when his mom went missing, and now is 7 which indicates Cindy married his dad when he was 5. In spite of how big of an AZZ Donald may have been or is, it obviously was Cindy's choice to remain with him for those 5 years and then marry him.
The fact remains that no matter how poor of choices Cindy may have made, SHE STILL REMAINS MISSING, and that is what's the issue here, and we all want to help her family in any way that we can, not console someone's wounded heart or ego.[/QUOTE
I agree whole heartedly. Cindy is missing and her family need her at home.
I don't think she left home on her own in her pink bathing suit or even in street clothes. Foul play should have been suspected right away..it is just so obvious. I think whatever happened to Cindy happened either on the way home from her daughter's home or after they got home. I hope that LE have checked the vehicle they were in that night and checked their home. If not, they can still go into the home with luminal and find blood if that is where something happened there.
Tom'sGirl
08-24-2005, 08:57 PM
[QUOTE=Bobbisangel Foul play should have been suspected right away..it is just so obvious. I think whatever happened to Cindy happened either on the way home from her daughter's home or after they got home.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately for the family since there was history of Cindy leaving for periods in the past this was just put aside I think by the LE ,thinking it was just another domestic quarrel and she would return.
NOW, so much time has elapsed it's going to be hard to find clues and so forth, and I doubt that her husband is even living at the same place which may have been an apartment.
Of corse, if the local LE really was on this case they would by now have obtained search warrants and I haven't heard of any being issued.......DAMMMMMMMM :banghead:
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-25-2005, 09:49 AM
Unfortunately for the family since there was history of Cindy leaving for periods in the past this was just put aside I think by the LE ,thinking it was just another domestic quarrel and she would return.Was the history of Cindy leaving verified by anyone other than her husband?
Tom'sGirl
08-25-2005, 12:00 PM
Was the history of Cindy leaving verified by anyone other than her husband?
JG, From what I have read it doesn't state exactly who said what. I read that on CharleyProject, and then in other posts it says they had a troubled marriage.
SNIP:
Cindy has previously left her home when she became upset, but she always kept in touch with her relatives by phone. She and Donald married in 2003. Their relationship was troubled and they argued frequently. Investigators say they have no reason to doubt Donald's version of events and that there is no evidence of foul play in Cindy's case, but her loved ones say it is uncharacteristic of her to leave without warning and authorities are not ruling anything out at this point. Her case remains unsolved.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/casteel-mathieu_cindy.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/casteel-mathieu_cindy.html)
SNIP:
The couple frequently argued since meeting in 1997 and the fighting continued after their marriage in November 2003, relatives and friends of Casteel Mathieu said.
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/03/08/sections/local/local/article_434142.php (http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/03/08/sections/local/local/article_434142.php)
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-25-2005, 12:02 PM
... her loved ones say it is uncharacteristic of her to leave without warning ...Thanks, TG. So it sounds as if she might have a history of leaving but that she would give someone a "heads up" first.
Tom'sGirl
08-25-2005, 12:06 PM
Thanks, TG. So it sounds as if she might have a history of leaving but that she would give someone a "heads up" first.
Definately, I also read that the family had/has hired a Private Investigator, so they are working hard to find her.
I will agree it doesn't sound good as far as her husbands history of violence with his first wife.
SewingDeb
08-30-2005, 03:24 PM
Bump for Cindy.
Tom'sGirl
08-30-2005, 08:22 PM
Bump for Cindy.
Thanks for bumping this SD, I haven't heard or read a thing about Cindy in the news, or or otherwise.
SewingDeb
08-31-2005, 01:39 AM
You're welcome. I'm really wondering what happened to her.
mrjbird7
08-31-2005, 05:58 PM
It has been asked of me, if I have a beef, PM it. I have a couple of messages for you, Bobbisangel. But everytime I try to send them, your box is full. I just wanted to clarify a couple of points to you. Those points you are welcome to share with whomever you wish. I thought it best to keep it private. Thank You.
Bobbisangel
08-31-2005, 07:22 PM
It has been asked of me, if I have a beef, PM it. I have a couple of messages for you, Bobbisangel. But everytime I try to send them, your box is full. I just wanted to clarify a couple of points to you. Those points you are welcome to share with whomever you wish. I thought it best to keep it private. Thank You.
I think I got it cleared out so go ahead and try it again.
Well, it looks like Cindy is still missing. Is local LE still saying 'no foul play' suspected?
FWIW, I got a post card the other day, from AMW, in response to the letter I wrote them about Cindy's case. It only took them three months or so to get back to me. It was just an acknowledgement that they got my correspondence. Waiting to see if they might take this case on. :rolleyes:
JMHO
fran
Tom'sGirl
09-25-2005, 12:09 AM
Well, it looks like Cindy is still missing. Is local LE still saying 'no foul play' suspected?
FWIW, I got a post card the other day, from AMW, in response to the letter I wrote them about Cindy's case. It only took them three months or so to get back to me. It was just an acknowledgement that they got my correspondence. Waiting to see if they might take this case on. :rolleyes:
JMHO
franFran, maybe they (AMW) have contacted her family, do ya think :confused:
I still have her photo on my bulletin board near my computer. I know her description says blonde hair, but it looks reddish to me in the photos.
In any event, I hope she maybe has been located and is fine.
redeskimo
09-25-2005, 03:01 AM
Are LE still looking for the Husband with the history of Violence . Or does he just get to go on with his life . Why was nothing done about him in the beginning . I just dont understand this , a woman is out there with nothing but a bathing suit , and LE find this just fine . :waitasec:
Tom'sGirl
09-25-2005, 03:54 PM
Are LE still looking for the Husband with the history of Violence . Or does he just get to go on with his life . Why was nothing done about him in the beginning . I just dont understand this , a woman is out there with nothing but a bathing suit , and LE find this just fine . :waitasec:At this point no one knows for a fact that she was ONLY wearing a bathing suit, it was reported that was what she was wearing the last time her husband saw her......WHO KNOWS FOR SURE, he could be lying, or she could have changed clothes before leaving :confused:
ETA: As for you asking "are the LE still looking for him", I've never read where they were.
He was arrested in January for child abuse and their son was placed in non-family custody. I've never heard how the case came out, only that if he were found guilty he could be sentenced to one year in jail.
Anyone out there hear how the trial went?
Bobbisangel
09-25-2005, 05:06 PM
I remember reading that LE believed his story and that he wasn't even a person of interest at the beginning anyway. I just wonder if they ever checked his vehicles over and if they checked his house over.
It seems that he left the state but I don't know if that was with his son or without him. I remember something about LE wanting to talk to him or looking for him after he left the state but I wouldn't swear on that. By looking at Cindy and his history, his history of violence and domestic violence with the different wives you would think red flags would have been sticking up all over LE. How they could say they didn't think foul play was involved and that they believed the husband is beyond me. If they aren't calling it foul play by now they all need their heads examined.
Tom'sGirl
09-25-2005, 05:57 PM
I remember reading that LE believed his story and that he wasn't even a person of interest at the beginning anyway. I just wonder if they ever checked his vehicles over and if they checked his house over.
It seems that he left the state but I don't know if that was with his son or without him. I remember something about LE wanting to talk to him or looking for him after he left the state but I wouldn't swear on that. By looking at Cindy and his history, his history of violence and domestic violence with the different wives you would think red flags would have been sticking up all over LE. How they could say they didn't think foul play was involved and that they believed the husband is beyond me. If they aren't calling it foul play by now they all need their heads examined.Bobbi,
I think the problem with the LE at the time Cindy went missing they learned of their frequent arguing and didn't take it seriously. ["The couple frequently argued since meeting in 1997 and the fighting continued after their marriage in November 2003, relatives and friends of Casteel Mathieu said."]
Now, at the time she went missing they lived in an apartment and that was well over a year ago. I had read he was living at a friends house afterward, so I doubt that the apartment was searched, or if so, no DNA done or anything as they suspected no foul play.
What is a shame is that they aren't keeping this case alive in the news, kind of like they do with a lot of cases. I'm sure the family is doing all they can at this point, but it seems odd that they haven't been heard from since the vigil they had months ago.
redeskimo
09-26-2005, 02:21 AM
Bobbi,
I think the problem with the LE at the time Cindy went missing they learned of their frequent arguing and didn't take it seriously. ["The couple frequently argued since meeting in 1997 and the fighting continued after their marriage in November 2003, relatives and friends of Casteel Mathieu said."]
Now, at the time she went missing they lived in an apartment and that was well over a year ago. I had read he was living at a friends house afterward, so I doubt that the apartment was searched, or if so, no DNA done or anything as they suspected no foul play.
What is a shame is that they aren't keeping this case alive in the news, kind of like they do with a lot of cases. I'm sure the family is doing all they can at this point, but it seems odd that they haven't been heard from since the vigil they had months ago.
I believe Cindy's Ex husband Jason is trying to do all he can . Trying to get more people interested in her case . I just hope he gets a little more help from
LE .
Bobbisangel
09-26-2005, 10:08 PM
I believe Cindy's Ex husband Jason is trying to do all he can . Trying to get more people interested in her case . I just hope he gets a little more help from
LE .
Jason would get a lot further if he had an attitude adjustment...especially towards people that try to help. JMO.
Tom'sGirl
09-26-2005, 10:12 PM
Jason would get a lot further if he had an attitude adjustment...especially towards people that try to help. JMO.
And my opinion also Bobbi.
His attitude was a complete "turn-off", and his posts were not factual, and more than a bit dramatic in his stating certain untrue posts.
redeskimo
09-27-2005, 03:52 AM
Jason would get a lot further if he had an attitude adjustment...especially towards people that try to help. JMO.
I realy dont think this has anything to do with the attitude of Cindy's ex husband Jason , I think it has more to do with the frustations of a man trying to get help , He just wants to find Cindy . I dont know how I would react if it were someone belonging to me ,and therefore I would not like to judge someone in this position .I just hope and pray for the family that they find out what happened to Cindy . I also think that LE left a lot of stones unturned .:(
Bobbisangel
09-27-2005, 11:37 PM
I realy dont think this has anything to do with the attitude of Cindy's ex husband Jason , I think it has more to do with the frustations of a man trying to get help , He just wants to find Cindy . I dont know how I would react if it were someone belonging to me ,and therefore I would not like to judge someone in this position .I just hope and pray for the family that they find out what happened to Cindy . I also think that LE left a lot of stones unturned .:(
First of all, Cindy doesn't belong to Jason. I understand him wanting to help her children find their mother but if he treats LE the way he treated some of the people on here they will tell him to take a hike...he is no relation to Cindy and they aren't obligated to share any info with him.
I don't think that LE has treated this case they way that they should have either. Our point is...Jason has an attitude regardless of what is causing it. You don't bite the hand that feeds you and you can catch more flys with honey than vinager.
Kelly
12-01-2005, 11:39 PM
Cindy's family has two billboards going up. One is in Anaheim at Lincoln and Center, and the other one is in Staton at Beach and 2nd St. Let's hope that answers will be forthcoming for this family.
Kelly
JBean
12-23-2005, 01:17 AM
Cindy's family has two billboards going up. One is in Anaheim at Lincoln and Center, and the other one is in Staton at Beach and 2nd St. Let's hope that answers will be forthcoming for this family.
KellyI just saw the news coverage of these 2 billboards. They interviewed her sister and nephew. It was good to see her story on the news again.
The billboards look good.
They also said that the pink bathing suit was never found, and that none of the family have heard from the husband again, nor does he check on any progress.
IdahoMom
12-23-2005, 02:33 AM
Here's a link to that news story:
http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_356224438.html
Tom'sGirl
12-23-2005, 02:27 PM
I just saw the news coverage of these 2 billboards. They interviewed her sister and nephew. It was good to see her story on the news again.
The billboards look good.
They also said that the pink bathing suit was never found, and that none of the family have heard from the husband again, nor does he check on any progress.
I saw that too late last night JB, her Sister Kim looks a lot like her except for the hair color doesn't she?
When Cindy's photo flashed on the the T.V. I sat up and said, "hey, that's Cindy" then they interviewed her sister. It's about time it hit the local news, the billboards have been up for weeks.
Bobbisangel
12-27-2005, 10:31 PM
I just saw the news coverage of these 2 billboards. They interviewed her sister and nephew. It was good to see her story on the news again.
The billboards look good.
They also said that the pink bathing suit was never found, and that none of the family have heard from the husband again, nor does he check on any progress.
Cindy must have still been wearing her swimsuit when she was murdered. Otherwise it would have been in her bedroom or bathroom from when she took it off to change. It looks like her husband is going to get away with this.
I still want to know if LE went back and went through her house and their vehicles. If there was any blood in that house it would still show up with luminal....even if someone else has moved into the house. I hope they have done their job. For so long LE didn't even consider the husband a "person of interest." To me that would mean that they didn't search his house or cars.
KGOGO
02-08-2006, 01:27 AM
Hi ,to All Who Have Visited And Posted.my Name Is Kim.i Am Cindys Sister.
I Am Always Working To Find Out What Happend To Cindy. Western High Is
Where Cindy's Son Kalani Went To School.our Father Andrew Orlowski Does Live In Oceanside . Jason Is And Always Has Been A Part Of This Family
I Believe We Will Get The Truth. We Have Contacted Some Of The News
That Has Been Posted Here. We Are Working On Others. For Those Of You
Who Live Locally Tomorrow Abc Is Going To Do A Special Report. We Are
Supposed To Get 5 To 7 Mins. In The 5:00 Hour. I Think This Will Be Good.
Thank You All Kim
redeskimo
02-08-2006, 03:48 AM
Hi Kim I'm out here keeping my fingers crossed that you and Jason and the rest of Cindy's family get some answers soon . Greetings from germany.
Tom'sGirl
02-08-2006, 08:44 PM
Hi ,to All Who Have Visited And Posted.my Name Is Kim.i Am Cindys Sister.
I Am Always Working To Find Out What Happend To Cindy. Western High Is
Where Cindy's Son Kalani Went To School.our Father Andrew Orlowski Does Live In Oceanside . Jason Is And Always Has Been A Part Of This Family
I Believe We Will Get The Truth. We Have Contacted Some Of The News
That Has Been Posted Here. We Are Working On Others. For Those Of You
Who Live Locally Tomorrow Abc Is Going To Do A Special Report. We Are
Supposed To Get 5 To 7 Mins. In The 5:00 Hour. I Think This Will Be Good.
Thank You All Kim
Hi Kim,
Thank you so much for your post Kim, we are all hoping that Cindy will be found soon.
I just saw you and the family on the news, knew it was coming as they announced it this morning that they would have a segment on Cindy.
Again, thanks so much for your post.
Tom'sGirl
07-03-2006, 08:57 PM
Bumping for Cindy............I haven't heard anything, has anyone else?
Bobbisangel
07-08-2006, 02:39 AM
Bumping for Cindy............I haven't heard anything, has anyone else?
I wonder if this has turned into a cold case or if LE is still working on it. What ever happened to the husband? Is he still out of state....and out of mind for LE? It always seemed pretty obvious that the husband did something to Cindy. I wonder just how well their home and vehicles were checked by LE?
It's been a long time now since Cindy has been gone. I wish that I could believe that she is somewhere safe but it is doubtful because of the way her marriage was and the kind of man that she was married too. It sounds like they had a fight and something horrible happened. I wonder if her bathing suit was ever found...the one he said that she left home in.
Tom'sGirl
10-15-2006, 09:18 PM
I wonder if this has turned into a cold case or if LE is still working on it. What ever happened to the husband? Is he still out of state....and out of mind for LE? It always seemed pretty obvious that the husband did something to Cindy. I wonder just how well their home and vehicles were checked by LE?
It's been a long time now since Cindy has been gone. I wish that I could believe that she is somewhere safe but it is doubtful because of the way her marriage was and the kind of man that she was married too. It sounds like they had a fight and something horrible happened. I wonder if her bathing suit was ever found...the one he said that she left home in.
I Haven't heard a thing out here BA. I doubt that their rented apartment was checked out well, or the vehicle for that matter. I really don't think the LE thought anything other than another maritial dispute at that time.
Naturally, the husband would be the most likely suspect in her disappearance, but things are not always as they appear.......dunno?
As for the bathing suit, that's what he said he last saw her wearing, doesn't mean she couldn't/didn't change clothes........again, dunno?
JBean
10-15-2006, 09:34 PM
Bumping for Cindy............I haven't heard anything, has anyone else?We must be on the same wavelength. I bumped this yesterday and then I unbumped it because I hadn't really looked to see if there was any new info.
So thanks for bumping it TG.
Tom'sGirl
10-15-2006, 09:38 PM
We must be on the same wavelength. I bumped this yesterday and then I unbumped it because I hadn't really looked to see if there was any new info.
So thanks for bumping it TG.
WELL, that 'splains it Lucy'!
I got a email reply saying from JB, then when I went to the link it wasn't there.............thought I was going crazy, ugh, more crazy :D
JBean
10-15-2006, 10:16 PM
WELL, that 'splains it Lucy'!
I got a email reply saying from JB, then when I went to the link it wasn't there.............thought I was going crazy, ugh, more crazy :D Oh now I know how to drive you crazy! (Filed away for future)
I thought I should look before I bumped it in case something has happened.
Tom'sGirl
10-15-2006, 10:30 PM
Oh now I know how to drive you crazy! (Filed away for future)
I thought I should look before I bumped it in case something has happened.Well you little devil :)
I was already going nuts because I never got any email notifications, then other things were going weird on here and then your post that wasn't there.
Anyway, BOT, I've never heard or read anything more on Cindy and it's been far too long now. BUT, stranger things have happened when all of a sudden we hear something out of left field.
JBean
10-15-2006, 10:41 PM
Well you little devil :)
I was already going nuts because I never got any email notifications, then other things were going weird on here and then your post that wasn't there.
Anyway, BOT, I've never heard or read anything more on Cindy and it's been far too long now. BUT, stranger things have happened when all of a sudden we hear something out of left field.I cannot believe it has been 2 years.
I was thinking about her sister and family and just wondered if they had any info at all.
Tom'sGirl
10-15-2006, 10:43 PM
I cannot believe it has been 2 years.
I was thinking about her sister and family and just wondered if they had any info at all.
I guess not, or they're just not saying???
Tom'sGirl
12-26-2006, 12:19 AM
Bumping Here!
angarella
12-31-2006, 10:24 AM
Thanks to all who bumped this thread. This case has been on my mind lately and I wondered if there was any new news. Sadly, it seems there is not. Where is Cindy????????
Bobbisangel
01-01-2007, 02:59 AM
I imagine that Cindy is where ever her husband left her body after he murdered her after they left her daughter's home. I just wonder how good a job LE did going over their home and cars after she went missing and before he left the state with their son. I'll bet he really thinks he got away with murder and by the looks of things...he did.
angarella
01-01-2007, 05:39 AM
I imagine that Cindy is where ever her husband left her body after he murdered her after they left her daughter's home. I just wonder how good a job LE did going over their home and cars after she went missing and before he left the state with their son. I'll bet he really thinks he got away with murder and by the looks of things...he did.
Sad, but true Bobbisangel.
Kelly
08-04-2008, 09:18 PM
With deep regret and sadness, we are informing you on behalf of the family, that Cindy Casteel Mathieu has been found deceased. Kim asked me to let you know about this as she is grieving for her sister.
Cindy's remains have not yet been released to the family. They are planning a service and will also be asking for the media's assistance for leads and for justice for Cindy.
Kim stated "There are so many people that really loved Cindy and we want to thank them for their prayers. God Bless you."
Kelly, Project Jason
christine2448
08-05-2008, 10:09 AM
There were a couple of threads for this case. I moved the shorter one into Located Info and Support and this one here so that it can continue to be discussed.
I am sorry to all involved. I pray there can be justice for Cindy.
Bobbisangel
08-08-2008, 03:46 AM
With deep regret and sadness, we are informing you on behalf of the family, that Cindy Casteel Mathieu has been found deceased. Kim asked me to let you know about this as she is grieving for her sister.
Cindy's remains have not yet been released to the family. They are planning a service and will also be asking for the media's assistance for leads and for justice for Cindy.
Kim stated "There are so many people that really loved Cindy and we want to thank them for their prayers. God Bless you."
Kelly, Project Jason
Kelly, do you know how finding Cindy came about? Where she was found and how that happened? I'm glad that she was finally found and that the family doesn't have to sit there wondering and waiting for answers even though I know it has to be so hard for them now that they know she is no longer alive.
I really wish LE would discover some DNA or something that will lead them to the killer. I don't have any doubts who that person is but I know that LE has to have evidence or something in order to make an arrest. I truly hope that there will be justice for Cindy....soon.
LE could still go into their apt and spray it with luminol even if it has been rented since the husband moved out. There would probably still be traces of blood that would show up. They probably wouldn't even need a warrent if the people living there gave permission. Same with the vehicle that the husband had at the time Cindy went missing. I hope LE gets with it now and works hard to solve this case. It doesn't seem like they did much when Cindy went missing.
SCAngel
08-08-2008, 08:07 AM
Where she was found and how that happened?
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-remains8-2008aug08,0,3611235.story
Remains of woman missing 4 years found
ANAHEIM – Skeletal remains found near Silverado Canyon last September are those of a mother of three who vanished from her apartment nearly four years ago, police said Thursday.
The coroner has not been able to establish a cause of death for Cindy Casteel Mathieu, 42, and police have found no evidence of foul play – although her family continues to suspect her death was not accidental.
.....................snip......................... .
When some human bones were discovered in the area of Santiago Canyon Road near Silverado Canyon Road in September, authorities returned a few days later and found more remains – which possibly had been scattered by rains.
The remains were identified as Cindy Casteel Mathieu a few weeks ago in July, but authorities were not able to locate Donald Mathieu – her next of kin.
...........................snip................... ..
In a brief telephone interview with the Register shortly after his wife's disappearance, Donald Mathieu, at that time an unemployed construction worker, said he had no idea what happened to his wife.
"We're still in the dark, just waiting and praying," he told the Register.
Police, while acknowledging that her disappearance was suspicious and unusual, said they had no reason to doubt Donald Mathieu's story. He never has been a suspect in her disappearance.
<<<<<<<<<full article at link>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mathieu-casteel-donald-2117619-family-disappearance
I am so sad at the way this case was handled by local LE. They went completely by the husband's accounts of Cindy leaving of her own accord. As far as I can recall, LE didn't really even look for her.
Cindy's family, IIRC, did a few searches in a camping type area they knew Cindy used to go to. But they never found any trace of their missing loved one. I believe the area she was finally discovered in, was not even close to where they'd searched before.
I'm sorry, but from Day 1 this looked like foul play to me. I even wrote to a reporter and told him I believed something bad had happened. He just sent me a short note a few weeks later and said, 'cops have no new leads.'
IF this article disappears, here's a short description of Cindy's story. It's not all there, but new information that I'd never seen before.
Saturday, Husband and wife were at a relative's bday party (pool party). Later that evening when the party had moved into the apartment, Cindy and her husband Donald were seen arguing. By the time they left, Cindy was crying. They left their 6 yo to spend the night.
Monday, Cindy didn't show up for work with the City, her co-workers reported her missing. Donald was allegedly at work. He said they'd had an argument and went to sleep in separate rooms Saturday night. When he got up Sunday he left for the day and when he returned he noticed Cindy gone. Purse, money, cell, car and keys were all there.
Donald said she'd done this before, left without telling him where she was. Cindy's family said when she left her husband, she always contacted her family. They hadn't heard from her since Saturday.
Shortly thereafter, Donald stopped talking to LE. He moved out of the apartment and stored Cindy's belongings in a storage unit. Soon he let Cindy's stuff be auctioned off, by not paying the bill.
In 2004 the husband was arrested for causing corporal punishment to a child, (Cindy and his joint little boy). Rather than allowing Cindy's family to take in the child when he lost custody, he let the boy be taken in by the State of California and he became a ward of the State.
As far as I can recall, Donald was due in court on the pending charges and he disappeared. There is a warrant out for his arrest in California. While they were investigating the husband on current charges, they found out he'd been previously arrested 12 years prior in Texas for domestic violence on his then wife. Cindy's family was not aware he had an ex-wife. Apparently he'd threatened her with a gun. He also had a warrant out in Texas for an unrelated incident of assault.
I just read a few days ago, information I hadn't previously known. Apparently there were previous calls by Cindy to local LE for domestic violence. Her statement to a friend or relative was something like LE didn't believe her about the 'domestic violence.' She told this person that 'no one can help me. IF I end up missing, it's NOT of my own accord.' Apparently Cindy's husband also had the habit of when Cindy would leave him, he'd track her down and keep after her until she returned home.
From what I remember back in 2005, Cindy's family was very active in the search of their loved one, including her ex-husband. I believe there was some sort of discontentment between the family and local LE because the family felt LE was NOT doing enough. Local police, while I do believe they had Cindy's missing case featured on their local city website, was of the impression Cindy was missing because she wanted to be gone. They did NOT suspect foul play.
Cindy wasn't young, beautiful, rich and living in the burbs. She was a 40 something wife, mother, grandmother, twice or thrice married, living in an apartment working for the city. One description that was not revealed, was Cindy was also the victim of domestic violence.
Cindy's story didn't have all the makings of a front page block buster tale. Her story was relagated to the local section, missing without a trace. No foul play suspected.
The remains of Cindy's body do not show cause of death, NO indication of foul play. Cindy's family can begin to grieve the loss of their loved one with this discovery and identification. They NOW know where she is.
I'll be interested if Cindy's case remains at the bottom of the pile of missing or if they'll open her file and seek justice for Cindy. Signs of foul play or not, this story needs an ending. Donald Mathieu, the last known person seen with Cindy, has some explaining to do.
JMHO
fran
Now see, this is something NEW, I hadn't heard before. I had been given the impression, from the beginning of this case, that it was Donald who had called around looking for Cindy on Sunday night when he CLAIMED he'd returned and found her missing. But that does not appear to be what happened at all. This, IMHO, makes her disappearance, imo, more BECAUSE something BAD happened Saturday night after they left the bday party.
I didn't realize that Cindy did NOT want to leave the party
I didn't realize that Donald was at home as early as 3:00 p.m. Sunday afternoon and told her daughter that Cindy was sleeping.
I didn't realize that Donald made a phone call Monday morning looking for Cindy.
So..........Donald's STORY CHANGED from 'she was taking a nap,' to he 'woke up Sunday morning, left, came back later, the door was opened, and Cindy was gone?'
Police say, 'they do not believe there is foul play.'
Does this sound like, 'no foul play' to you?
fran
http://findcindyinfo.com/
.............snip....................
Cindy was in tears and didn’t want to leave, Donald practically dragged her out of the party.
The next day, Sunday, August 15th, Sarah, Cindy’s daughter called her mother’s home around 3:00 p.m. Donald Mathieu told Sarah, Cindy didn’t feel good and she was taking a nap. Shortly after that, Donald showed up at Sarah’s to pick up their son. Everyone was surprised to see Donald, he rarely was the one who picked up their son.
About 9:00 p.m. Sunday, Sarah called my house to see if I had talked to Cindy. I told her I hadn’t. Donald Mathieu told Sarah, that when he returned home earlier that day, the door was open and Cindy was gone. None of her personal belongings were taken. Her purse, Identification, Credit/Bank cards and her car was still there. The only thing missing was Cindy and her pink bathing suit.
Monday morning around 8:30 a.m., Donald Mathieu phoned my house and asked my daughter if we had talked to Cindy. She told him no and then called me at work. Right away I knew something was wrong and I called Sarah to see if she had talked to Cindy yet? She said no, I told her to call the Police. At the same time Cindy failed to show up for work. Her employer was also concerned and telephoned the Police.
Missing woman's bones identifiedThursday,
August 07, 2008
....................snip....................
Family members say they haven't seen Donald since March 2005.
"He's next of kin if you care about her, come claim her. Come claim her if you've got nothing to hide," said Christopher Gogos.
Records show Anaheim Police arrested Donald in 2000 on suspicion of spousal battery. He was never convicted.
Family members knew the couple had a sometimes violent relationship.
"One time, he physically did choke her to where eyes were bloodshot," said daughter, Sarah Originales.
Hospital records obtained by Eyewitness News show Barbara Mathieu, Donald's wife before Cindy suffered injuries in Texas in 1992. She alleged Donald choked her.
Barbara sought a restraining order alleging he threatened to kill her. For some reason Barbara dropped her case against Donald.
She died in 1999 of natural causes.
Anaheim police say they haven't seen Donald in years and so far he is not a suspect in Cindy's death.
<<<<<<<<<<full article at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=6313537
JBean
08-11-2008, 12:25 AM
Now see, this is something NEW, I hadn't heard before. I had been given the impression, from the beginning of this case, that it was Donald who had called around looking for Cindy on Sunday night when he CLAIMED he'd returned and found her missing. But that does not appear to be what happened at all. This, IMHO, makes her disappearance, imo, more BECAUSE something BAD happened Saturday night after they left the bday party.
I didn't realize that Cindy did NOT want to leave the party
I didn't realize that Donald was at home as early as 3:00 p.m. Sunday afternoon and told her daughter that Cindy was sleeping.
I didn't realize that Donald made a phone call Monday morning looking for Cindy.
So..........Donald's STORY CHANGED from 'she was taking a nap,' to he 'woke up Sunday morning, left, came back later, the door was opened, and Cindy was gone?'
Police say, 'they do not believe there is foul play.'
Does this sound like, 'no foul play' to you?
fran
http://findcindyinfo.com/
.............snip....................
Cindy was in tears and didn’t want to leave, Donald practically dragged her out of the party.
The next day, Sunday, August 15th, Sarah, Cindy’s daughter called her mother’s home around 3:00 p.m. Donald Mathieu told Sarah, Cindy didn’t feel good and she was taking a nap. Shortly after that, Donald showed up at Sarah’s to pick up their son. Everyone was surprised to see Donald, he rarely was the one who picked up their son.
About 9:00 p.m. Sunday, Sarah called my house to see if I had talked to Cindy. I told her I hadn’t. Donald Mathieu told Sarah, that when he returned home earlier that day, the door was open and Cindy was gone. None of her personal belongings were taken. Her purse, Identification, Credit/Bank cards and her car was still there. The only thing missing was Cindy and her pink bathing suit.
Monday morning around 8:30 a.m., Donald Mathieu phoned my house and asked my daughter if we had talked to Cindy. She told him no and then called me at work. Right away I knew something was wrong and I called Sarah to see if she had talked to Cindy yet? She said no, I told her to call the Police. At the same time Cindy failed to show up for work. Her employer was also concerned and telephoned the Police.
You are right Fran. I have to recall the details, but I sure don't remember any of this.
Bobbisangel
08-11-2008, 12:41 AM
I wonder if LE thinks there was foul play involved now :furious: They say that almost every time a person goes missing unless there is evidence left behind or if there was a witness. Just ticks me off.
Yes, they totally took that violent husband's word for everything. Lazy! If they put a little effort into looking for the jerk I'm sure that they could find him. He is probably working somewhere so they could use in SS number or the IRS to hunt him up unless they are to lazy again.
It also seems to me that if he abused that little boy he should have lost his parental rights and the little boy could have gone to Cindy's family instead of into foster care. How horrible for the little guy.
LE has to know that the husband is responsible for Cindy's death. I wonder if even a piece of her bathing suit was found on what was left of her body? That would prove that she went missing on Sat night and not on Sunday.
You are right Fran. I have to recall the details, but I sure don't remember any of this.
JBean:
I can't believe so much was kept from the public eye. This is NO FOUL PLAY!?:eek:
What?!!?!!?!!? {they don't even have a smiley for what I feel right now!}
This is SOOO much more than was ever told to us in the years prior to discovering Cindy's REMAINS!
I can't believe that a LE agency could have KNOWN all of this DOMESTIC VIOLENCE background,........... phone calls, police files, witness statements, criminal record, and still believe NO foul play suspected?!?!?!?!
Seriously, I do NOT always suspect the husband, wife, or SO when I first see a case hit the wires, (or whatever), the first thing I do is try to eliminate them. But, seriously, this cries....WHO did it!
Now that they HAVE A BODY, do they have a case? :confused:
Well, why don't they put it before a jury and find out!?:rolleyes:
Oh my gosh! I cannot believe this.:mad:
Seriously,
fran
PS...Oh, yeah! I forgot, they have to find the .........husband of the NOW deceased! :furious:
I wonder if LE thinks there was foul play involved now :furious: They say that almost every time a person goes missing unless there is evidence left behind or if there was a witness. Just ticks me off.
Yes, they totally took that violent husband's word for everything. Lazy! If they put a little effort into looking for the jerk I'm sure that they could find him. He is probably working somewhere so they could use in SS number or the IRS to hunt him up unless they are to lazy again.
It also seems to me that if he abused that little boy he should have lost his parental rights and the little boy could have gone to Cindy's family instead of into foster care. How horrible for the little guy.
LE has to know that the husband is responsible for Cindy's death. I wonder if even a piece of her bathing suit was found on what was left of her body? That would prove that she went missing on Sat night and not on Sunday.
Isn't this interesting? No foul play suspected.:mad:
Well, according to this recent article, LE is calling it a 'suspicious death.' :rolleyes:
Perhaps someone could enlighten some of these police agencies what to look for when a spouse or SO is missing. You know, little things like:
1. Prior history of LE contacts with one spouse reporting domestic violence.
2. The last person seen with the missing person is the only one not worried about them missing or has an entirely different story about the missing person, ie they always do this, disappear, vs no, whenever she left him, she ALWAYS contacted her family, and this time she didn't
3. Last time missing person was seen by anyone other than the 'spouse,' they were arguing.
4. Although hear-say, friends and family say victim had told them that they physically fear the spouse (last known person seen with them), the victim says if they ever come up missing, it's not by choice.
5. Spouse doesn't report victim missing, someone else does
6. Missing person did NOT take ANYTHING, including purse, cell phone, keys, car,.........NOT to mentions the kid(s)
7. Victim is generally dependable and this is completely out of character.
8. Spouse, which is last known person seen with victim, stops talking to LE, moves from family home, IMMEDIATELY rids themselves of any of the victim's possessions.
9. Last known person seen with the victim has previous reports in even different jurisdicitons of domestic violence and or, assault of others. Not to mention warrants out for their arrest for such, which I would think they could then deduct this last known person with the victim has a tendancy towards violence.
10. Oh, and THIS is a biggy, IMHO. IF the missing person ends up DEAD AND their remains are located in a remote or isolated area, no matter the cause of death canNOT be determined, IMO, with all of the above, a jury most likely would find them guilty of, at the least, Second Degree Murder.
This isn't rocket science. It's MURDER!:furious:
JMHO
fran
PS......Oh, there is one more thing that LE tends to brush away. When friends and family of the victim say the victim told them that their spouse had said to them, "I could kill you and they'd NEVER find you."
That seems to be a SOP of these cowards to most domestic violence victims that I've spoken to. So, IF they end up MISSING WITHOUT A TRACE, I would pretty well figure the abuser has made good on his threat and the person isn't missing because they WANT to be gone. GOOD GRIEF! ..fran
PPS.....One more thing, according to this article, he went out for cigaretts and when he came home, Cindy was missing. This is the THIRD story I've heard he's told. When someone is telling the TRUTH their story stays the same.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-remains8-2008aug08,0,4702468.story?track=rss
Sgt. Rick Martinez, a spokesman for the Anaheim Police Department, said the case has been classified as a "suspicious death" but investigators have not yet established a cause of death or whether a crime occurred.
Kelly
08-11-2008, 11:16 PM
From the Family:
"We will be meeting at Maxwell Park, 265 W. Orange, Anaheim, CA 92804. This will take place Tuesday night, the 12th at 6 pm. This is a time to remember Cindy and for us to be able to tell all that have been on this journey with us "thank you".
Kim, Sister of Cindy"
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-12-2008, 11:59 AM
About 9:00 p.m. Sunday, Sarah called my house to see if I had talked to Cindy. I told her I hadn’t. Donald Mathieu told Sarah, that when he returned home earlier that day, the door was open and Cindy was gone.
Is there an article that mentions this being prior to 3 p.m. when he claimed she was napping? Although I believe 100% that he is responsible, this statement doesn't contradict the 3:00 p.m. nap time.
Is there an article that mentions this being prior to 3 p.m. when he claimed she was napping? Although I believe 100% that he is responsible, this statement doesn't contradict the 3:00 p.m. nap time.
Originally, he claimed he woke up Sunday morning, he believed Cindy was still asleep, he left for the day and when he returned Cindy was gone. Then he called around that night and asked if people had seen Cindy. IMO, this is what he told LE.
Then I see an article where one of Cindy's family called at 3 in the afternoon and he said Cindy was taking a nap.
Those are contradictory statements.
JMHO
fran
OriginalJerseyGirl
08-14-2008, 10:47 AM
Thanks fran.
ckwood32
08-14-2008, 01:07 PM
I just saw this forum today. This is the most shoddy police work I think I have heard of. No foul play? How did she end up there? Did she walk? Come on. The local LE should be ashamed. Where is that piece of TRASH husband??? Probably re-married beating on someone else!
OneLostGrl
08-16-2008, 12:38 AM
So sad that Cindy is indeed dead. I'm sure her family "knew" but now that it's real I cannot imagine the pain they are in.
My sympathy to this family.
Bobbisangel
08-16-2008, 04:50 AM
I hope LE is actively working on Cindy's case. Her death is suspicious!!!! I'm surprised that these cops passed the academy! They should be ashamed of themselves.
I hope that Cindy's family is putting the pressure of LE. That may be the only way that this case will ever get solved.
Kelly
08-20-2008, 12:16 AM
From the Family:
Cindy will be laid to rest on Sat Aug 23rd at 12:30pm at Forest Lawn Memorial Park, 4471 Lincoln Ave, Cypress, CA 90630.
KGOGO
08-20-2008, 12:24 AM
I'm Cindy's sister and I wanted to say thanks to you all. I have been trying to get on all the fox shows,Nancy Grace and others. AMW never showed interest before but I'm trying again.If any one else wants to bug the sites for more info maybe it will help. We can lay Cindy to rest but we are not at the end of this road yet.
We will say good bye on Sat.Aug 23rd at 12:30 pm at
Forest Lawn Memorial Park
4471 Lincoln Ave.
Cypress,Ca.90630
God Bless You and Tell your loved ones you love them often.
KGOGO
I am so sorry about your sister Cindy. I know you did your best to find her. She would have been proud of you and all of your family. You never gave up.
My deepest sympthy,
fran
PS....I'll try writing some emails tomorrow to NG and Greta. FWIW, AMW wants hard-copies. I think they want LE to contact them before they get involved. IF you could find just one understanding detective that would make that initial contact with AMW, they might help......good luck, fran
KGOGO
08-21-2008, 12:31 AM
Thank you Fran.I know you have been here from the beginning.I do have a friend at APD and I will get the info to him. Maybe that's what we need. I'm not done yet! I'm sure I'll wear someone down and that may get the snowball rolling.
The Green Hornet
08-21-2008, 04:54 AM
Kgogo,
My deepest and most heartfelt prayers and condolences go to you and your entire family. Sadly, I know this wasn't the answer you were hoping for, nor was it the ones any of us were wishing, but at least now Cindy can get her proper final farewell and you all can proceed with getting justice in her name.
As Fran stated, you all served her proud by giving everything you could to locate her. Although I didn't know her, I'm certain she's looking down upon all of you with a smile.
JBean
08-22-2008, 11:57 AM
I'm Cindy's sister and I wanted to say thanks to you all. I have been trying to get on all the fox shows,Nancy Grace and others. AMW never showed interest before but I'm trying again.If any one else wants to bug the sites for more info maybe it will help. We can lay Cindy to rest but we are not at the end of this road yet.
We will say good bye on Sat.Aug 23rd at 12:30 pm at
Forest Lawn Memorial Park
4471 Lincoln Ave.
Cypress,Ca.90630
God Bless You and Tell your loved ones you love them often.
(((KGOGO))) Bless you and I am so sorry for your loss.
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