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KaylynnCouture
12-16-2010, 05:27 PM
Las Vegas Metro police are asking for the public's help in finding a dancer who went missing Sunday night.

Police said Deborah Flores-Narvaez, 31, was last seen leaving her home near Las Vegas Boulevard and Tropicana Avenue about 7 p.m.

She drives a maroon 1997 four-door Chevrolet Prism with Maryland license plate 73547CD.

Flores-Narveaz is described as Hispanic, standing 5 feet 5 inches tall, weighing 120 pounds and with brown hair and brown eyes.

KaylynnCouture
12-16-2010, 05:30 PM
Other links:
http://www.mynews3.com/story.php?id=34151&n=5035
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13686325/las-vegas-police-search-for-missing-woman
http://www.ktnv.com/story/13686314/missing-persons-report-issued-for-las-vegas-strip-performer (this link has more pictures of Deborah)

Texas Mist
12-16-2010, 06:43 PM
<snip>

Celeste Flores, said her sister got dressed Sunday night and told her roommate that she was going to Griffith's house.

"I'm constantly getting calls from people saying, 'it's not like her, she never does this.'"

Flores' ex-boyfriend, Blu Griffith, said she came over to his home about 7:30 p.m. that night and spoke briefly before she left to meet with friends.
He told FOX5 they hope they find her.

Some people told Celeste Flores that her sister was upset about something, although others said nothing seemed out of the ordinary.

more here

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26160970/detail.html

Fairy1
12-16-2010, 08:51 PM
I find it a bit concerning that they are reporting she was last seen leaving HER home, but that her ex is saying that she dropped by his house after that. Wouldn't THAT be the last sighting?

I wish they would be more specific about where she lived. Any "residences" I can think of near Tropicana and Las Vegas Boulevard are not the finest in town.

Good to see she is getting media coverage.

cats5vegas
12-16-2010, 09:11 PM
I just saw this. Agree - good to see media coverage.

Fairy1
12-16-2010, 09:54 PM
I find it a bit concerning that they are reporting she was last seen leaving HER home, but that her ex is saying that she dropped by his house after that. Wouldn't THAT be the last sighting?

I wish they would be more specific about where she lived. Any "residences" I can think of near Tropicana and Las Vegas Boulevard are not the finest in town.

Good to see she is getting media coverage.

Nevermind - I found where it is! She sounds like a very accomplished woman and quite beautiful. I so hope she's okay.

http://klas.images.worldnow.com/images/13686325_BG2.jpg

cats5vegas
12-17-2010, 09:39 AM
I thought I saw a story on the Fox 5 10:00pm news last night that the car had been located. However, I cannot find anything about that this morning, and the news today is still giving description of the missing car. So, now I'm confused!

Bratislava
12-17-2010, 10:14 AM
I don't get a good feeling about this.

Texas Mist
12-17-2010, 02:03 PM
I thought I saw a story on the Fox 5 10:00pm news last night that the car had been located. However, I cannot find anything about that this morning, and the news today is still giving description of the missing car. So, now I'm confused!

finally something to read, cats5vegas.

The car of a missing Las Vegas Strip dancer in which she was last seen driving was found Thursday evening in the northeast section of Las Vegas, Metro Police said.

Officers said the maroon 1997 Chevrolet Prism with Maryland license plates belonging to 31-year-old Deborah Flores-Narvaez was found in a lot on East Carey Avenue just west of Nellis Blvd.

Metro said there were nothing suspicious in the car or signs of the missing woman.



http://www.mynews3.com/story.php?id=34231&n=5035

cats5vegas
12-17-2010, 08:06 PM
Missing Dancer's Car Found Abandoned

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13704210/breaking-news-missing-womans-car-found

Police say they found the car abandoned on Thursday afternoon in the northeast part of Las Vegas. According to posts on Facebook by her family, Debbie's purse was also found inside the vehicle.

This is not looking good.

Fairy1
12-17-2010, 08:29 PM
Missing Dancer's Car Found Abandoned

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13704210/breaking-news-missing-womans-car-found

Police say they found the car abandoned on Thursday afternoon in the northeast part of Las Vegas. According to posts on Facebook by her family, Debbie's purse was also found inside the vehicle.

This is not looking good.

No - doesn't look good at all.

The location of the car is far away from where Debbie lives. Wonder where the ex-BF lives? I wish they would be more clear about her visit to his house after she left home. I've seen now where the last time she was seen was leaving home at 7:00 PM. Then they quote the BF saying she left his house at 7:30. Today it was 7:30 or 8:00. WTH? Is this bad reporting or something more?

nursebeeme
12-17-2010, 08:29 PM
The car of a missing dancer was located by Las Vegas police Thursday night, and investigators are scouring it for clues into the 31-year-old's disappearance.

Las Vegas police would not say where the car was found. Spokesman Barbara Morgan said only that the vehicle was intact.


http://www.lvrj.com/news/missing-dancer-s-car-discovered-as-investigation-continues-112105019.html?ref=019

Fairy1
12-17-2010, 08:49 PM
The car of a missing dancer was located by Las Vegas police Thursday night, and investigators are scouring it for clues into the 31-year-old's disappearance.

Las Vegas police would not say where the car was found. Spokesman Barbara Morgan said only that the vehicle was intact.


http://www.lvrj.com/news/missing-dancer-s-car-discovered-as-investigation-continues-112105019.html?ref=019

See what I mean? Other news outlets are saying the car was located in the area of North Nellis and Carey Avenue.

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

ETA - News 3 just reported the car was found near Nellis and Carey. A resident nearby said she noticed the car on MONDAY, but it wasn't reported until yesterday.

:(

Texas Mist
12-18-2010, 03:25 AM
<snip>

Police are examining all scenarios. They will also likely question her most recent ex-boyfriend, who was the last person to see her before her disappearance.

"It was a bad break-up," Celeste said. "I'm hearing different stories that it was good, it was bad. There were times when she was upset about it."

Theresa Howey reported seeing Debbie's car on Monday near an abandoned home at Carey Avenue and Lamb Boulevard. She says she saw the car on the other side of a chain link fence. "Between 3:40 and 4:15 Monday afternoon, it showed up," Howey said.

more here - including LE not confirming Debbie's car was found at Carey and Lamb

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13707158/search-for-missing-woman-intensifies

Blondie in Spokane
12-18-2010, 06:39 AM
I wonder if they've pinged her phone yet.

nursebeeme
12-18-2010, 10:32 AM
<snip>

Police are examining all scenarios. They will also likely question her most recent ex-boyfriend, who was the last person to see her before her disappearance.

"It was a bad break-up," Celeste said. "I'm hearing different stories that it was good, it was bad. There were times when she was upset about it."

Theresa Howey reported seeing Debbie's car on Monday near an abandoned home at Carey Avenue and Lamb Boulevard. She says she saw the car on the other side of a chain link fence. "Between 3:40 and 4:15 Monday afternoon, it showed up," Howey said.

more here - including LE not confirming Debbie's car was found at Carey and Lamb

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13707158/search-for-missing-woman-intensifies
also from your link:

Police found a purse in Debbie's car. They are also planning to examine her cell phone records.

dreamweaver
12-18-2010, 12:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/debbiefloresxo
This youtube video was noted on her FB page.

http://www.facebook.com/debbiesxo


http://www.myspace.com/debbiesmilkduds
This appears to be her myspace page, and repeat info from her fb page.
There are some provacative poses/video. (or maybe I am just getting old)

JMO

MsFacetious
12-18-2010, 01:03 PM
She's also been to school for law...

She's also very intelligent...

Her writings are also VERY ironic given the current situation... far more ironic if she is not found safely.

I never would have put those pictures with that text if you'd given me them separately.

Wow.

KaylynnCouture
12-18-2010, 11:19 PM
Sister reaches out for clues

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/sister-of-missing-luxor-dancer-launches-her-own-search-for-answers

cats5vegas
12-19-2010, 07:35 PM
Las Vegas Police Search for Missing Dancer

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/19/las-vegas-police-search-missing-dancer/?test=latestnews

Boyfriend not cooperating with the family. This definitely is not looking good.

DairyGirl
12-19-2010, 07:46 PM
It's never good when the last person to see them is an ex.

cats5vegas
12-19-2010, 07:59 PM
The car was found intact, with her purse inside. That leads me to believe that it was not a robbery or carjacking. I also don't believe that she would leave voluntarily without her purse.

Kimster
12-19-2010, 08:03 PM
Deborah Flores Narvaez, 31, a dancer in the Luxor's "Fantasy" show and a former Washington Redskins cheerleader, was last seen leaving her Las Vegas home around 7 p.m. Dec. 12, police told Fox News. http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/12/19/Las-Vegas-police-search-for-missing-dancer/UPI-51611292783320/

A cheerleader too? She's done a lot in her life! I sure hope this ends on a good note. :(

cluciano63
12-19-2010, 08:12 PM
I don't see how it can possibly end in a good way :( Who goes anywhere voluntarily without their purse...

Nancy2441
12-19-2010, 09:52 PM
From People Magazine:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20452096,00.html

Quote from article:
A beautiful brunette dancer in Luxor’s steamy adult show Fantasy, as well as a go-go dancer at Palms Hotel’s Rain Nightclub and a former Washington Redskins cheerleader, Flores-Narvaez, 31, was last seen Dec. 12 going to the home of her ex-boyfriend, Blu Griffith.

lucky181
12-19-2010, 10:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/siriusblack2121
A video from her myspace with her ex Blu Griffith. Rapping goes until 1:30 and then they play a video game and continue talking. Her last statement is said in jest and hopefully did not end up coming true.

dreamweaver
12-19-2010, 11:24 PM
It's starting to look a little bleak for Deborah.

Missing a week now, car found abandoned, but her purse found inside it.

And now the bf is not talking with family.

I hope she can be found. Safe.

Blondie in Spokane
12-20-2010, 02:47 AM
Here's an article from People...really not any new info. The BF is saying Deborah was depressed prior to her disappearance....hmmm

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20452096,00.html?hpt=C2

dreamweaver
12-20-2010, 06:02 AM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/showgirl-former-nfl-cheerleader-mysteriously-disappears-vegas

The popular dancer who appears in the adult show Fantasy at the Luxor and is a go-go dancer at Rain nightclub at the Palms Hotel, was last seen December 12 when she went to visit her former boyfriend Blu Griffin.

It does seem like Deborah's missing person story is getting more national attention.

dreamweaver
12-20-2010, 06:07 AM
http://lostnmissing.posterous.com/missing-deborah-flores-narvaez-31-dancer-las

Deborah Flores-Narvaez, who goes by "Debbie," apparently stopped by her ex-boyfriend's residence Sunday evening, but he told their family she left before the season finale of the television show "Dexter," her sister said.

Celeste Flores-Narvaez said her sister's cell phone is shut off and there hasn't been any activity on her Facebook or MySpace accounts.

MrsG728
12-20-2010, 09:11 AM
I think this is the woman they just featured on GMA this morning :( It doesn't sound good at all.

Blondie in Spokane
12-20-2010, 09:37 AM
I wish we knew whether the BF's story is credible or not.

Blondie in Spokane
12-20-2010, 09:46 AM
Debbie's story was just featured on Fox News...not too much new. They said her car has been located but they did not mentioned where. Too early to tell whether she was a victim of foul play or not.

That's all I was able to catch.

nursebeeme
12-20-2010, 10:19 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-dancer-debbie-flores-narvaez-missing/story?id=12436919

gma video with article

nursebeeme
12-20-2010, 10:24 AM
Celeste Flores, the woman's sister, told FoxNews.com that Griffith, a Las Vegas dancer, has been uncooperative in providing the family with detailed information.
"I am the only one out here on behalf of my family and he doesn't want to sit down and talk to me," Flores said, "There are many inconsistencies."
Flores said Griffith told her in a phone conversation last week that the young woman visited his home around 7:30 p.m. on Dec. 12, and that the two spoke briefly at his front door.
"He told me that she said she’s been depressed for the past couple of days because it was the holidays and she wasn’t around her family," Flores said.
"He also said she was sleeping in her car the past couple of nights," which Flores said was "unlike" her sister.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/19/las-vegas-police-search-missing-dancer/#ixzz18fMJgGmW

krista
12-20-2010, 11:05 AM
B.S.

If she missed her family, she would have called her family.....not gone to his house!! imho.

Money Girl
12-20-2010, 01:44 PM
I wish we knew whether the BF's story is credible or not.

Have the police talked with him yet?

KaylynnCouture
12-20-2010, 02:10 PM
Family Raising Money to Help Find Deborah

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26195546/detail.html

krimekat
12-20-2010, 02:18 PM
FoxNews' Megyn Kelly just had a spot light on her

abbygator
12-20-2010, 03:01 PM
This is from Atlanta area article...Deborah's mother lives in GA and she received a text message from her on Dec. 1...

“In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas. My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend,” was the text message sent Dec. 1.

“I asked Debbie what it means, and she says ‘never mind, mommy. Just keep it for your records,’” Elise Narvaez told the AJC Monday.

Eleven days after the text message Debbie Flores-Narvaez disappeared. She has been missing since Dec. 12.

http://www.ajc.com/news/north-fulton/georgia-mother-sister-beg-783252.html

Hope I followed directions with quoting and links...

Texas Mist
12-20-2010, 03:38 PM
This is from Atlanta area article...Deborah's mother lives in GA and she received a text message from her on Dec. 1...

“In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas. My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend,” was the text message sent Dec. 1.

“I asked Debbie what it means, and she says ‘never mind, mommy. Just keep it for your records,’” Elise Narvaez told the AJC Monday.

Eleven days after the text message Debbie Flores-Narvaez disappeared. She has been missing since Dec. 12.

http://www.ajc.com/news/north-fulton/georgia-mother-sister-beg-783252.html

Hope I followed directions with quoting and links...

you did fine, abbygator - thanks for the link...that text message sure seems ominous. :(

angelmom
12-20-2010, 03:55 PM
Praying for Debbie's safe return. I agree that sending that text sounds like she was fearful.

Chili Fries
12-20-2010, 04:23 PM
If you look up the boyfriend's real name at the Las Vegas whosarrested.com site (http://lasvegas.whosarrested.com/inmates/204348-jason-o-griffith), you'll see the record of an arrest of a 31 year old black male on Oct 22nd for battery (domestic violence) and forced coercion. That record is for a JG with the middle initial O. I'm not absolutely positive it's the same JG, but...Blu is from Brooklyn and using a people finder the only JG I can find with the middle initial O is from Brooklyn so there is a very good chance that the Las Vegas arrest record is Blu. I can't say for sure though, maybe someone else can double check.

Ransom
12-20-2010, 05:41 PM
Breaking news -- The search grows desperate for a beautiful Las Vegas showgirl who gave up her day job for dreams of show business. Where is Debbie Flores-Narvaez? Nancy Grace has the latest, breaking news every night at 8 & 10 pm ET only on HLN.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Amity
12-20-2010, 06:04 PM
B.S.

If she missed her family, she would have called her family.....not gone to his house!! imho.

Why would she sleep in her car....she has an apartment and roommate, no?
Unless she was angry with her roommate for some reason but I still don't see this highly educated, intelligent, common-sense woman sleeping in her car.

MSM states she was last seen leaving her apartment... who saw her, roommate? Neighbor who just happened to be looking out a window? Gardener?
Who exactly saw this woman leaving her apartment and has it been proven it was Debbie who they saw? Are they sure it was Debbie?

Nancy2441
12-20-2010, 07:20 PM
I think the most alarming thing in this case is the text message she sent her mother that if anything ever happened to her look to the ex-boyfriend. No one sends out a text message to family along those lines unless they are extremely worried about their personal safety.

On JVM they discussed the odds that it could be a stalker who had seen her dance and started following her. I guess it's possible but that seems much less likely to me, though.

Another thing they said on JVM's show today is the place her car was found is in the bad part of Vegas. Usually when a missing person's car shows up in a bad part of town that's a very terrible sign. JMO.

trigger
12-20-2010, 07:56 PM
On JVM

DFN is a burlesque dancer in the Luxor show "Fantasy" to get a solo part in Fantasy

Debbie beat out thousands of women to get a solo part in Fantasy

A friend interviewed on JVM -she stated the family is devastated esp her sister. There are no leads. The last person to see her was her BF, did not contact her family to give them his condolences.

This friend also said ex bf he is not co-operating, but LE said he is.

Talking about her cell phone pings and the ex bf cell phone pings.

Her car found in North Las Vegas. Not a safe place. Was living in her car. States the plates had been removed from the car. Why would she live in her car with no plates. Ex bf suggested she removed the plates.

Nancy2441
12-20-2010, 08:18 PM
On NG show right now...JC filling in

Now they say ex-boyfriend is cooperating with LE. (conflicting accounts of this)

LE presser tomorrow 10:00 AM.

Checking her computer, combing through the car for forensics.

Text message: Her sister Celeste is not concerned about text message. Thinks it was worded wrong. Doesn't feel it was meant as a concern over boyfriend but as who to contact in case of emergency.

Deborah never told the sister that she was concerned about her ex boyfriend.

Reporter from Radar Online: Dec. 12th Deborah had two rehearsals went to ex-boyfriends between rehearsals, she never made it to 2nd rehearsal. Roommates weren't concerned thought she was staying over at ex-boyfriend's. Didn't report her missing until the next day.

Make up bag found in car not purse according to her sister. Cell phone was turned off.

nursebeeme
12-20-2010, 08:27 PM
The ex-boyfriend of a Las Vegas showgirl who has been missing for more than a week had previously been arrested for abusing the dancer, Las Vegas police told ABC News today.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-boyfriend-missing-las-vegas-dancer-arrested-abuse/story?id=12445098&tqkw=&tqshow=GMA

Amity
12-20-2010, 08:28 PM
On NG show right now...JC filling in

Now they say ex-boyfriend is cooperating with LE. (conflicting accounts of this)

LE presser tomorrow 10:00 AM.

Checking her computer, combing through the car for forensics.

Text message: Her sister Celeste is not concerned about text message. Thinks it was worded wrong. Doesn't feel it was meant as a concern over boyfriend but as who to contact in case of emergency.

Deborah never told the sister that she was concerned about her ex boyfriend.

Reporter from Radar Online: Dec. 12th Deborah had two rehearsals went to ex-boyfriends between rehearsals, she never made it to 2nd rehearsal. Roommates weren't concerned thought she was staying over at ex-boyfriend's. Didn't report her missing until the next day.

Make up bag found in car not purse according to her sister. Cell phone was turned off.


Thank you so very much for the show's highlights, Nancy!
My elderly Dad has the tv and the game is on now. No way will he give that up. lol
Anyway, when I've tried to take the TV from him before, he tells me: "NG and JVM's voices are Too shrill for my sensitive ears".
An 80+ year old man with sensitive ears...yea, right. lol

Kimster
12-20-2010, 08:32 PM
Debbie is now featured as our top story on Websleuth's front page. I hope this helps find her! :(

TigerBalm
12-20-2010, 08:41 PM
Thank you so very much for the show's highlights, Nancy!
My elderly Dad has the tv and the game is on now. No way will he give that up. lol
Anyway, when I've tried to take the TV from him before, he tells me: "NG and JVM's voices are Too shrill for my sensitive ears".
An 80+ year old man with sensitive ears...yea, right. lol

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/TIMER55

Don't let dear ole dad hear :angel:

dreamweaver
12-20-2010, 08:45 PM
NG: ex bf has court date tomorrow for Oct. domestic violence.

Laddsy
12-20-2010, 08:50 PM
Wow she is stunning.

dreamweaver
12-20-2010, 08:50 PM
NG: Per info on the show, Debra was pregnant this fall. Not pregnant now.

It just gets worse.

Kimster
12-20-2010, 08:52 PM
NG: Per info on the show, Debra was pregnant this fall. Not pregnant now.

It just gets worse.

When they said there is a felony court date scheduled tomorrow for the domestic abuse, that caused me to fall off the fence.

Kimster
12-20-2010, 08:57 PM
Did they just say the XBF is a rapper? I missed a lot of that part.

dreamweaver
12-20-2010, 08:58 PM
Did they just say the XBF is a rapper? I missed a lot of that part.

Yes,he is a rapper and there are youtube videos of him.

Nancy2441
12-20-2010, 09:02 PM
And also this was brought up on NG, Deborah was the witness against ex-boyfriend in the felony domestic abuse case and now she's missing. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Also the LE Presser is scheduled for 10:00 AM... after the ex appears on the domestic violence charge.

illeKllaH
12-20-2010, 09:06 PM
If she was pregnant this fall and then wasn't...I wonder if the date coincides with the DV charge he is facing? Also, the text is odd. Do we know that she sent the text to her mom? Any way BG could have sent it? That just seems incredibly odd for her to send that to her mom after they went through a nasty break up and she was a witness against him. I sure wouldn't want my ex being contacted for ANYTHING. Odd.

Fairy1
12-20-2010, 09:13 PM
This doesn't sound good at all.

I hope they are all over this ex-BF. If he's the one who dumped her car, I'm thinking he had to have help. It's always good to have another player that will turn if enough pressure is applied. Phone calls, cell pings. They're never as smart as they think they are.

I don't see this ending well for Debbie. I wish they would find her. It's cold and rainy. :(

cats5vegas
12-20-2010, 09:18 PM
Report details violence between missing dancer, ex-boyfriend
A police arrest report released Monday is detailing a violent incident involving a missing Las Vegas show performer and her ex-boyfriend.

Debbie Flores, who disappeared on Dec. 12, was involved in an incident in October in which her ex-boyfriend, Jason Griffith, hit and pushed her to the ground and took her phone, according to that report.

The report also stated that Flores was pregnant with Griffith’s child at the time.

The fight left Flores with bruises on both of her legs and chunks of her hair missing.

Griffith is due to appear in court Tuesday to answer to felony coercion charges connected to that incident.

Meanwhile, Flores remains missing, having been last seen leaving her home near Tropicana and Las Vegas Blvd. Her sister told News 3 she last heard from her when she was leaving her ex-boyfriend’s house.

Police say Griffith has been cooperating with authorities despite the reported incident.

Officers found Flores’ vehicle days after her reported disappearance in a vacant northwest Las Vegas lot.

http://www.mynews3.com/story.php?id=34333&n=5037

Definitely not looking good. Too many signs pointing right at the ex-BF.
And yes, it's very rainy and cold out there tonight.

FifthEssence
12-20-2010, 09:19 PM
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13717206/missing-dancer-boyfriend-had-history-of-violence

According to the police report, Griffith allegedly stole Flores-Narvaez's iPhone during a dispute. She chased after him and the two started arguing. Griffith then threw her phone. When Flores-Narvaez went to retrieve it, he ran toward her, pushed her down, pulled her hair and kicked her.

Griffith was arrested for battery/domestic violence and coercion.
ARREST REPORT link is there.
http://www2.8newsnow.com/docs/griffith_arrest.pdf

Fairy1
12-20-2010, 09:25 PM
WHY did she go to his house??? What in the world would make such an intelligent, beautiful woman remain tied to a guy who had harmed her?

I just don't understand.

Kimmer
12-20-2010, 09:26 PM
OK here are my thoughts, as far as the text message goes there had to have been something going on with the best friend for her to tell her Mom not to contact the best friend but contact the Ex, I also think the message was a criptic message to Mom that not all was well with ex either, but then she is suppose to have went to the BG house in between rehearsals, but when she does not show home that night the roomates don't report her missing because they think she may have stayed the night with her Ex, Huh, that does not even make sense, I agree with the poster who said in order to get her car to its location BG would have needed help, I say look very closely at this Best Friend who I would also guess is a roomate. things do not look well at all for Debbie...And then throw in the fact that BG is talking about her showing up right before Dexter call me stupid but there are to many cases lately that seems to have that show thrown into the mix....It may be a very good show and all but this is just getting weirder and weirder.

oceanblueeyes
12-20-2010, 09:30 PM
This is from Atlanta area article...Deborah's mother lives in GA and she received a text message from her on Dec. 1...

“In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas. My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend,” was the text message sent Dec. 1.

“I asked Debbie what it means, and she says ‘never mind, mommy. Just keep it for your records,’” Elise Narvaez told the AJC Monday.

Eleven days after the text message Debbie Flores-Narvaez disappeared. She has been missing since Dec. 12.

http://www.ajc.com/news/north-fulton/georgia-mother-sister-beg-783252.html

Hope I followed directions with quoting and links...

Since she is wanting her ex boyfriend contacted instead of her best friend... have we learned who her best friend is?

tia

scandi
12-20-2010, 09:31 PM
When they said there is a felony court date scheduled tomorrow for the domestic abuse, that caused me to fall off the fence.

Hi Kimster, I think many had the same feeling as you, Pat Brown included, as to the timing of his court appearance tomoz morning at 10am and her going missing. xox

scandi
12-20-2010, 09:42 PM
And also this was brought up on NG, Deborah was the witness against ex-boyfriend in the felony domestic abuse case and now she's missing. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Also the LE Presser is scheduled for 10:00 AM... after the ex appears on the domestic violence charge.

Yes, that was an ominous comment made on the show, that she would have been the one to testify against him tomoz. Was he scheduled to appear in court on the 21st prior to her going missing? That could be the catalyst for her going missing - possibly IMO.

Here in Oregon when a crime like this is committed it is the State that assumes the position the crime was against the people of the State and not the victim singly. Hope I have that right. That is why even if the victim doesn't want to press charges the State will if they believe there was a crime. I wonder if it is the same in Nevada?

oceanblueeyes
12-20-2010, 09:43 PM
Sister Believes Missing Woman Alive
Deon Ridley, a friend who danced with the dancer for three years, said Flores-Narvaez had expressed concern over obsessed fans.

"Being in the industry that she's in, being in a burlesque show, it's very risqué for any female in Las Vegas. Her safety is very important," her partner said.

The missing dancer's sister said police have a few persons of interest, but she is adamant that her sister is alive.

"There is no hope or prayer because she is okay. There is no ifs, ands or buts," she said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-boyfriend-missing-las-vegas-dancer-arrested-abuse/story?id=12445098&page=2

Nancy2441
12-20-2010, 09:51 PM
Maybe I missed it on JVM or NG. Did they say whether they found her cell phone or not?

scandi
12-20-2010, 09:55 PM
Sister Believes Missing Woman Alive
Deon Ridley, a friend who danced with the dancer for three years, said Flores-Narvaez had expressed concern over obsessed fans.

"Being in the industry that she's in, being in a burlesque show, it's very risqué for any female in Las Vegas. Her safety is very important," her partner said.

The missing dancer's sister said police have a few persons of interest, but she is adamant that her sister is alive.

"There is no hope or prayer because she is okay. There is no ifs, ands or buts," she said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-boyfriend-missing-las-vegas-dancer-arrested-abuse/story?id=12445098&page=2

Hi Ocean ;} I wonder if that is her best friend, her partner. If so I would expect nothing different from her best friend at this point in time. She would almost feel like family to her, giving out only hopeful thoughts that Debbie is OK and alive. IMO

scandi
12-20-2010, 09:57 PM
Maybe I missed it on JVM or NG. Did they say whether they found her cell phone or not?

They said she had her cell phone with her as I remember. In the car that is. Gosh, now I don't know and will see if it is written anywhere :banghead:



ETA: I'm watching the repeat and will listen for info on her cellie.

The cell phone was not found.
The cell phone had been turned on earlier in the evening but was then turned off.
LE are searching her cell phone records.

Also, there has been no activity on her personal computer accounts, like My Space, since she went missing.

Above from NG show

Kimmer
12-20-2010, 10:12 PM
What I heard the sister say on NG was that the only thing that was found in the car was her make-up bag, her purse and cell have not been found, but she also said that LE has said that her phone was powered off during the time frame from when she was suppose to have left BG home and heading back to her home...so they have not been able to get any pings on it.

SuziQ
12-20-2010, 10:37 PM
Yes, that was an ominous comment made on the show, that she would have been the one to testify against him tomoz. Was he scheduled to appear in court on the 21st prior to her going missing? That could be the catalyst for her going missing - possibly IMO.

Here in Oregon when a crime like this is committed it is the State that assumes the position the crime was against the people of the State and not the victim singly. Hope I have that right. That is why even if the victim doesn't want to press charges the State will if they believe there was a crime. I wonder if it is the same in Nevada?

BBM. I hope Nevada handles this case the same way as well. So many perps have disappeared their victim to get their cases dropped, only to find out it didn't help them at all.

ETA: I think in all states when they prosecute a crime, the victim is merely a witness. Not sure. Will be interesting to find out.

scandi
12-20-2010, 10:42 PM
What I heard the sister say on NG was that the only thing that was found in the car was her make-up bag, her purse and cell have not been found, but she also said that LE has said that her phone was powered off during the time frame from when she was suppose to have left BG home and heading back to her home...so they have not been able to get any pings on it.

Hi Kimmer, Re-listening to NG's show, I just caught the sister Celeste's interview. She said the EX BF said when she left his house she called for a car and was on the phone.

The sister is emotionally traumatized as you can imagine. I think she has flown out to LV. What she said was very quick and a bit confusing to me. Did Debbie have her own car or did she have a town car or taxi for transportation? She supposedly was going somewhere else and then to the next rehearsal and acc to NG's show, it wasn't a very long time frame we are looking at.

scandi
12-20-2010, 10:44 PM
BBM. I hope Nevada handles this case the same way as well. So many perps have disappeared their victim to get their cases dropped, only to find out it didn't help them at all.

ETA: I think in all states when they prosecute a crime, the victim is merely a witness. Not sure. Will be interesting to find out.

HI SuzieQ, That was a good way to explain it, that the victim is a witness and it will be interesting to find out.

Amazing after all these years here there is always something new to learn. xox

Kimmer
12-20-2010, 10:45 PM
Hi Kimmer, Re-listening to NG's show, I just caught the sister Celeste's interview. She said the EX BF said when she left his house she called for a car and was on the phone.

The sister is emotionally traumatized as you can imagine. I think she has flown out to LV. What she said was very quick and a bit confusing to me. Did Debbie have her own car or did she have a town car or taxi for transportation? She supposedly was going somewhere else and then to the next rehearsal and acc to NG's show, it wasn't a very long time frame we are looking at.

What I heard the sis say was that BG had said he saw her get in her car and sit there for a bit while making a phone call she had her own car from what I have been able to glean and then her car was found in a bad part of town with the plates removed.

oceanblueeyes
12-20-2010, 10:45 PM
I may be wrong and it could be the ex but I am thinking it was someone who was obsessed with her. Someone who came often to see her perform.

I wonder if she told her partner which people in the audience made her fearful?

IMO

scandi
12-20-2010, 10:50 PM
What I heard the sis say was that BG had said he saw her get in her car and sit there for a bit while making a phone call she had her own car from what I have been able to glean and then her car was found in a bad part of town with the plates removed.


Thanks Kimmer, I guess I was thinking that because her car was parked in a desolate place with the plates removed and that she had been sleeping in her car, that it was not in drivable condition.

She had recently had a big promotion in her show, a starring dance, and I could see someone like that having transpo available to them.

Gosh, why would she be sleeping in her car? We have so much to learn in the case. How long had she been in that show, if she had roommates {which have been referred to on TV} she must have had an apt, eh?

PS: I also read somewhere on this thread she might have taken the plates off herself.

Kimmer
12-20-2010, 10:54 PM
Thanks Kimmer, I guess I was thinking that because her car was parked in a desolate place with the plates removed and that she had been sleeping in her car, that it was not in drivable condition.

She had recently had a big promotion in her show, a starring dance, and I could see someone like that having transpo available to them.

Gosh, why would she be sleeping in her car? We have so much to learn in the case. How long had she been in that show, if she had roommates {which have been referred to on TV} she must have had an apt, eh?

I agree she should have had a place to sleep but I keep coming back to the text message she sent her Mom on Dec 1st that if there was an emegency involving her the Mom was to call BG her ex boyfriend and not her best friend...So was she living with her best friend who may have had the lease in her name and they had a falling out and her best friend kicked her out...There is alot of ? to be answered in this case but my hunch right now is that the best friend and BG may be in this together up to there eyeballs.

scandi
12-20-2010, 11:03 PM
I agree she should have had a place to sleep but I keep coming back to the text message she sent her Mom on Dec 1st that if there was an emegency involving her the Mom was to call BG her ex boyfriend and not her best friend...So was she living with her best friend who may have had the lease in her name and they had a falling out and her best friend kicked her out...There is alot of ? to be answered in this case but my hunch right now is that the best friend and BG may be in this together up to there eyeballs.

That certainly makes sense. The LE officer at the end of the NG show said she had the cell phone with her and had called her sister after leaving the EX BF's house. He said that is how they know the EX was the last one to see her. It was also brought up how timely it was that her cellie was suddenly turned off at such a time when no one knows where she was, after talking to her sister and before she was due to return to rehearsal. The cop also said the EX is being arraigned tomoz at 8am and then appearing in court at 10am and he was quite pointed that might bew due to the timliness of her going missing.

7 days now and we know LE has learned a bunch. They say the LV police dept is very fine.

dreamweaver
12-20-2010, 11:07 PM
Thanks Kimmer, I guess I was thinking that because her car was parked in a desolate place with the plates removed and that she had been sleeping in her car, that it was not in drivable condition.

She had recently had a big promotion in her show, a starring dance, and I could see someone like that having transpo available to them.

Gosh, why would she be sleeping in her car? We have so much to learn in the case. How long had she been in that show, if she had roommates {which have been referred to on TV} she must have had an apt, eh?

PS: I also read somewhere on this thread she might have taken the plates off herself.

In the early reports, a witness saw the car left there and a couple days later saw the license plates being removed. LVPD did not go out to check on the car for a couple of days.

Kimmer
12-20-2010, 11:10 PM
O/T--Scandi, it is really nice to hear from you again, it has been awile, hope you have a great holiday season.

Reannan
12-20-2010, 11:12 PM
In the early reports, a witness saw the car left there and a couple days later saw the license plates being removed. LVPD did not go out to check on the car for a couple of days.

BBM - What?? A witness saw the license plates being removed???

Kimmer
12-20-2010, 11:15 PM
BBM - What?? A witness saw the license plates being removed???

I could be wrong but I thought I heard that the person saw the car and then a couple days later they noticed that it was still there and had no plates, I did not hear that the person saw the person remove the plates, if that is the case it could be a great break.

Reannan
12-20-2010, 11:15 PM
I also meant to say Hey Scandi!!!! :wave:

Reannan
12-20-2010, 11:18 PM
I could be wrong but I thought I heard that the person saw the car and then a couple days later they noticed that it was still there and had no plates, I did not hear that the person saw the person remove the plates, if that is the case it could be a great break.

I know, right?? Dreamweaver, do you possibly, pretty please with a cherry on top have a link??? Thanks!!!!

dreamweaver
12-20-2010, 11:35 PM
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13707158/search-for-missing-woman-intensifies
Theresa Howey reported seeing Debbie's car on Monday near an abandoned home at Carey Avenue and Lamb Boulevard. She says she saw the car on the other side of a chain link fence. "Between 3:40 and 4:15 Monday afternoon, it showed up," Howey said.

Howey wrote down the vehicle's Maryland license plate number, which matched Debbie's. Police told Howey they couldn't come out Monday, because the car was on private property. "Somebody knew that the lot was vacant," Howey said.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/sister-of-missing-luxor-dancer-launches-her-own-
"It's awful that it has happened. I just wish an officer could've come out, and somebody could've found her address from her license plate or something," said Theresa Howey, who reported the abandoned vehicle.

Watching every day from her back porch, Howey says she noticed the Maryland plates disappear from the Maroon sedan on Wednesday. By Thursday, detectives moved onto the property to seize the car.

scandi
12-20-2010, 11:51 PM
O/T--Scandi, it is really nice to hear from you again, it has been awile, hope you have a great holiday season.

Thanks Kimmer and back at 'cha ;} I try to concentrate anymore on Pacific Northwest cases but have spent so many hours watching 'CSI ~ Crime Scene Investigation' that I feel an affinity for LV when a case comes up there. Like the little girl who was kidnapped from her home by a parental friend and was found out in the boonies by a road crew worker. She was alive, miraculously, and hope she is doing OK today.

xox

JamaicanMeFrooti
12-21-2010, 12:30 AM
I agree she should have had a place to sleep but I keep coming back to the text message she sent her Mom on Dec 1st that if there was an emegency involving her the Mom was to call BG her ex boyfriend and not her best friend...So was she living with her best friend who may have had the lease in her name and they had a falling out and her best friend kicked her out...There is alot of ? to be answered in this case but my hunch right now is that the best friend and BG may be in this together up to there eyeballs.

BBM~It was either on JVM or NG, but I tend toward NG that I heard that she was involved in a three way relationship.... just more ??? :banghead:

Reannan
12-21-2010, 12:37 AM
Thanks Dreamweaver!! When asked, I would say you deliver!!! If there is a witness who seems to know when the car appeared, and when the license plates disappeared, that is important info, IMHO. There have to be cameras in that location. Video please???

scandi
12-21-2010, 01:35 AM
I also meant to say Hey Scandi!!!! :wave:

Hi Reannan, It's great to see you too ;} I think it was a nosey neighbor {thank goodness for that, eh?} who saw the car appear on Mon and by Wed she saw someone removing the plates. Probably so it wouldn't look like a red flag to LE do you think?

I have this feeling LE knows much more than we realize in the case. Have a description of who removed the plates, obviously someone connected to the perp if not the perp, etc. I wonder if it has anything with them speeding up his arraignment on the domestic abuse charge as that LE officer on NG intimated?

MsFacetious
12-21-2010, 02:20 AM
From the news articles linked above... the neighbor noticed the plates were GONE on Wednesday... she didn't actually see them BEING removed.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/sister-of-missing-luxor-dancer-launches-her-own-search-for-answers?redirected=true

BBM~It was either on JVM or NG, but I tend toward NG that I heard that she was involved in a three way relationship.... just more ??? :banghead:

Her sister said that in addition to knowing that Debbie was pregnant in the fall (but not when she disappeared) that she had also known there was a "third party" involved in the situation.

This was while they were discussing the domestic abuse charges, where Debbie had supposedly gone to the new girlfriend's house and the ex/boyfriend had beaten her up there... (in the fall, while she was pregnant according to the police report.)

I believe that is what she meant. That there was another woman involved in the situation. I don't think she intended to give the impression that it was an open relationship. It did not sound that way to me in THIS particular situation. Of course that is a possibility at some point, but in this case I think it was the "other woman" type of situation.

Whether Debbie was confronting the ex/boyfriend for cheating on her with this woman, or for hooking up with her immediately after they broke up, or if she just went over there to discuss the pregnancy and things got out of hand. I don't know. But I think it was one of those from what her sister said.

scandi
12-21-2010, 02:39 AM
Hi Reannan, It's great to see you too ;} I think it was a nosey neighbor {thank goodness for that, eh?} who saw the car appear on Mon and by Wed she saw someone removing the plates. Probably so it wouldn't look like a red flag to LE do you think?

I have this feeling LE knows much more than we realize in the case. Have a description of who removed the plates, obviously someone connected to the perp if not the perp, etc. I wonder if it has anything with them speeding up his arraignment on the domestic abuse charge as that LE officer on NG intimated?


Whoops ! To correct this post it was on Wed when the neighbor noticed the plates being removed from the car and then LE showed up on Thursday to seize it. Sorry

scandi
12-21-2010, 02:45 AM
From the news articles linked above... the neighbor noticed the plates were GONE on Wednesday... she didn't actually see them BEING removed.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/sister-of-missing-luxor-dancer-launches-her-own-search-for-answers?redirected=true



Her sister said that in addition to knowing that Debbie was pregnant in the fall (but not when she disappeared) that she had also known there was a "third party" involved in the situation.

This was while they were discussing the domestic abuse charges, where Debbie had supposedly gone to the new girlfriend's house and the ex/boyfriend had beaten her up there... (in the fall, while she was pregnant according to the police report.)

I believe that is what she meant. That there was another woman involved in the situation. I don't think she intended to give the impression that it was an open relationship. It did not sound that way to me in THIS particular situation. Of course that is a possibility at some point, but in this case I think it was the "other woman" type of situation.

Whether Debbie was confronting the ex/boyfriend for cheating on her with this woman, or for hooking up with her immediately after they broke up, or if she just went over there to discuss the pregnancy and things got out of hand. I don't know. But I think it was one of those from what her sister said.

Hmmmm In the KTNV link from above it says "Watching every day from her back porch, Howey says she noticed the Maryland plates disappear from the Maroon sedan on Wednesday. By Thursday, detectives moved onto the property to seize the car".

Saying she 'noticed them disappear' gives the feeling she saw them being removed in my mind. Oh well, we will find out soon enough. She was attentive tho, seemingly upset because it was so odd and LE took so long to get out there.

revampz
12-21-2010, 06:16 AM
This is definitely some form of a domestic situation. I still find it suss re the text saying not to contact the best friend. Do we know who the best friend is yet??? I am thinking that there has been a falling out with her and yes am also wondering if she was the roomate and this is why she was supposedly sleeping in her car and staying at the exboyfriends between rehearsals.....maybe not wanting to go home??????

However I am wondering if this girl was really having the rough edge of the pineapple ie.....fight with best friend/roommate, maybe an abortion, ex boyfriend had been cheating hence the break up and the "third party" being mentioned, and then being a witness within the next week to an assault charge against the ex boyfriend.............lots of confrontation by the sounds of it....

I still think it has something to do the ex and the domestic violence charge.....as she was going there and obviously some form of reconciliation happened, maybe he was trying to make her change what she was going to say and it got heated.

JamaicanMeFrooti
12-21-2010, 06:59 AM
From the news articles linked above... the neighbor noticed the plates were GONE on Wednesday... she didn't actually see them BEING removed.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/sister-of-missing-luxor-dancer-launches-her-own-search-for-answers?redirected=true



Her sister said that in addition to knowing that Debbie was pregnant in the fall (but not when she disappeared) that she had also known there was a "third party" involved in the situation.

This was while they were discussing the domestic abuse charges, where Debbie had supposedly gone to the new girlfriend's house and the ex/boyfriend had beaten her up there... (in the fall, while she was pregnant according to the police report.)

I believe that is what she meant. That there was another woman involved in the situation. I don't think she intended to give the impression that it was an open relationship. It did not sound that way to me in THIS particular situation. Of course that is a possibility at some point, but in this case I think it was the "other woman" type of situation.

Whether Debbie was confronting the ex/boyfriend for cheating on her with this woman, or for hooking up with her immediately after they broke up, or if she just went over there to discuss the pregnancy and things got out of hand. I don't know. But I think it was one of those from what her sister said.
BBM~I didn't take it as an open relationship either, but wondered about a threesome.
As I said, third party = more questions :crazy:

oceanblueeyes
12-21-2010, 08:24 AM
This is definitely some form of a domestic situation. I still find it suss re the text saying not to contact the best friend. Do we know who the best friend is yet??? I am thinking that there has been a falling out with her and yes am also wondering if she was the roommate and this is why she was supposedly sleeping in her car and staying at the ex boyfriends between rehearsals.....maybe not wanting to go home??????

However I am wondering if this girl was really having the rough edge of the pineapple ie.....fight with best friend/roommate, maybe an abortion, ex boyfriend had been cheating hence the break up and the "third party" being mentioned, and then being a witness within the next week to an assault charge against the ex boyfriend.............lots of confrontation by the sounds of it....

I still think it has something to do the ex and the domestic violence charge.....as she was going there and obviously some form of reconciliation happened, maybe he was trying to make her change what she was going to say and it got heated.

Didn't her sister say Debbie called her after she left her ex-boyfriends house?

I am not sure who the suspect will be. Her ex? Her roommate? An obsessed fan? Jealous girlfriend of Blu's?

I too question why she was adamant about not contacting her best friend in case of an emergency but to contact Blu instead. This text was sent on December 1, so something tells me even if she testified in court she really wasnt going to try to nail him but would probably try to make excuses for him about why it happened. Which isn't uncommon. Often women who are battered forgive their batterer and don't want to testify in court.

Most jurisdictions don't even require the victim to testify anymore since a lot of them tell the DA they don't want to testify against them.

IMO

oceanblueeyes
12-21-2010, 08:27 AM
BBM~I didn't take it as an open relationship either, but wondered about a threesome.
As I said, third party = more questions :crazy:

Sounds like he dumped Debbie for another girlfriend.

Wonder who the present girlfriend is and how she felt if she knew Debbie was coming to see Blu even after the breakup.

IMO

oceanblueeyes
12-21-2010, 08:31 AM
Hmmmm In the KTNV link from above it says "Watching every day from her back porch, Howey says she noticed the Maryland plates disappear from the Maroon sedan on Wednesday. By Thursday, detectives moved onto the property to seize the car".

Saying she 'noticed them disappear' gives the feeling she saw them being removed in my mind. Oh well, we will find out soon enough. She was attentive tho, seemingly upset because it was so odd and LE took so long to get out there.

I imagine they removed the license plate during the night when the neighbor was sleeping and by Wednesday she noticed it was missing.

OT/ Merry Christmas sweet Scandi!

IMO

cats5vegas
12-21-2010, 08:47 AM
I saw an interview with the sister on Fox & Friends this morning. At least the family is keeping this in the news.

Patty G
12-21-2010, 08:58 AM
December 21, 2010
Today Show


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/40764297#40764297

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 10:18 AM
Flores-Narvaez's mother, Elise, told the Atlanta Journal Constitution about a strange December 1 text message her daughter sent her prior to her disappearance: "In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas," the text message read. "My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend."

“I asked Debbie what it means, and she says ‘never mind, mommy. Just keep it for your records,’” Elise Narvaez told the Atlanta Journal Constitution yesterday.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/549308-lebron-james-manny-pacquaio-tim-tebow-and-tuesdays-top-sports-buzz/entry/36144-debbie-flores-narvaez-former-washington-redskins-cheerleader-missing

eta: Debbie is the top trending thing on yahoo right now!

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 10:22 AM
According to the report, Griffith allegedly stole Flores-Narvaez's iPhone during a dispute. She chased after him and the two started arguing. Griffith then threw her phone. When Flores-Narvaez went to retrieve it, he ran toward her, pushed her down, pulled her hair and kicked her. Police say Debbie had bruises on both legs and found a chunk of her hair.

Griffith was arrested for battery, domestic violence and coercion.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20026269-504083.html

another snip~

Las Vegas police are set to hold a news conference regarding this case Tuesday morning.

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 10:23 AM
arrest report of JG:

http://www.ktnv.com/link/469802/read-the-arrest-report-for-jason-griffith

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 10:29 AM
http://www.ktnv.com/story/13717584/arrest-report-details-domestic-violence-against-las-vegas-dancer

and another article with an INTERESTING snip (((timing???)))


Griffith is scheduled to be in court Tuesday morning for an arraignment on the domestic violence charges.



http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13717206/missing-dancer-boyfriend-had-history-of-violence

Blondie in Spokane
12-21-2010, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the links Nurse.....ex bf seems to be quite a hothead. This has gone from bad to worse, I'm afraid.

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 10:35 AM
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26199436/detail.html

video box has picture of JG

Kimster
12-21-2010, 10:35 AM
http://www.ktnv.com/story/13717584/arrest-report-details-domestic-violence-against-las-vegas-dancer

and another article with an INTERESTING snip (((timing???)))


Griffith is scheduled to be in court Tuesday morning for an arraignment on the domestic violence charges.



http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13717206/missing-dancer-boyfriend-had-history-of-violence

This was mentioned last night on NG. And also interesting is a presser due at 10AM, soon after the hearing! :eek:

Thank you for the link, Nurse! :blowkiss:

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 10:41 AM
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b217157_five_things_you_need_know_about_missing.ht ml?cmpid=sn-000000-twitterfeed-365-top_stories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=twitterfeed&utm_campaign=twitterfeed_celebrities_top_stories

has some good info

Mendara
12-21-2010, 11:12 AM
I am hoping she is alive and is being dramtic, maybe giving her ex a scare. I just can't imagine he would be dumb enough to get rid of her knowing she was about to testify against him in court. I have to wonder WHY on earth she would still be friendly with him if they were about to go to court. VERY STRANGE.

MO

EGirl
12-21-2010, 11:24 AM
Does anyone know how long they dated? There are some interesting tweets from him last year:

http://twitter.com/BluGriffith


Also, who was her best friend? That text almost sounds like she had a falling out with the friend??

Recovering-Lurker
12-21-2010, 11:48 AM
Flores-Narvaez's mother, Elise, told the Atlanta Journal Constitution about a strange December 1 text message her daughter sent her prior to her disappearance: "In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas," the text message read. "My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend."

“I asked Debbie what it means, and she says ‘never mind, mommy. Just keep it for your records,’” Elise Narvaez told the Atlanta Journal Constitution yesterday.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/549308-lebron-james-manny-pacquaio-tim-tebow-and-tuesdays-top-sports-buzz/entry/36144-debbie-flores-narvaez-former-washington-redskins-cheerleader-missing

eta: Debbie is the top trending thing on yahoo right now!

Maybe the ex-bf sent the text to her mom, and when she asked Debbie about it, she didn't tell her the truth, because she didn't want her mom to be worried about her. ?

Mendara
12-21-2010, 11:50 AM
Maybe the ex-bf sent the text to her mom, and when she asked Debbie about it, she didn't tell her the truth, because she didn't want her mom to be worried about her. ?

Did she not have other friends? I wonder if she just had an argument with her roomate and was living out of her car those last few days and just really didn't want her roomate involved in ehr life anymore and the next best thing was her ex. MO

dreamweaver
12-21-2010, 12:02 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20026269-504083.html
According to a police report, Jason Griffith, also known as Blu, was arrested for beating her up in October 2010. Griffith and Flores-Narvaez were dating at the time.

She was reportedly going to Griffith's house when she vanished on December 12.

note: The LVPD press conference starts anytime now.

Chili Fries
12-21-2010, 12:05 PM
She's pregnant, accuses him of cheating, she could be a factor in him going to jail (I wonder what his past record was, maybe it could make for a very long stay in prison), he was the last to see her...my opinion is unfortunately that he's not truly cooperating with police unless he's telling them where her body is. LE is doing the usual by not calling the BF a suspect but I'd bet in actuality they are very focused on him.

dreamweaver
12-21-2010, 12:10 PM
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13717206/missing-dancer-boyfriend-had-history-of-violence

The word ‘vindictive' come(s) out of my mouth, but at the same time, that was their relationship. I truly believe innocent until proven guilty," Celeste said. "It's hard. There's no better word than for me to say. It's unbearable. It's painful. It's heartbreaking. I wish I knew where she was."

Griffith is scheduled to be in court Tuesday morning for an arraignment on the domestic violence charges.

Las Vegas police are set to hold a news conference regarding this case Tuesday morning.

There is a felony DV charge against him.

dreamweaver
12-21-2010, 12:11 PM
She's pregnant, accuses him of cheating, she could be a factor in him going to jail (I wonder what his past record was, maybe it could make for a very long stay in prison), he was the last to see her...my opinion is unfortunately that he's not truly cooperating with police unless he's telling them where her body is. LE is doing the usual by not calling the BF a suspect but I'd bet in actuality they are very focused on him.

Rumor only:
FB chat posts that there have been other incidents of DV, not reported to police.

dreamweaver
12-21-2010, 12:15 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/exclusive-interview-photos-sister-missing-vegas-showgirl-suspects-foul-play

This reports that Debbie had serious financial problems.

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/105713/2010/12/-debbie-flores-narvaez#image-load
Also, her sister shared many family photos. Slideshow.

Amity
12-21-2010, 12:21 PM
I am hoping she is alive and is being dramtic, maybe giving her ex a scare. I just can't imagine he would be dumb enough to get rid of her knowing she was about to testify against him in court. I have to wonder WHY on earth she would still be friendly with him if they were about to go to court. VERY STRANGE.

MO

Was talking about this case with Mr. Amity last night and that's almost exactly what he said.
He said he hoped she was just being dramatic, not something terrible happened to her.
He said maybe they made up and she went to his house to tell him how badly she didn't want to testify against him.
Maybe he said something like "Well Babe, the only way you wouldn't have to testify is if you disappeared and didn't show up for the court date."

Maybe that put an idea in her head and she figured she could disappear and hopefully the case would be dropped without her there to testify against him.

Me and hubby were just bouncing around ideas.....all ideas were based on her still being alive, not hurt.........as we both are hoping that is the case!

gypsyblue
12-21-2010, 12:25 PM
Was talking about this case with Mr. Amity last night and that's almost exactly what he said.
He said he hoped she was just being dramatic, not something terrible happened to her.
He said maybe they made up and she went to his house to tell him how badly she didn't want to testify against him.
Maybe he said something like "Well Babe, the only way you wouldn't have to testify is if you disappeared and didn't show up for the court date."

Maybe that put an idea in her head and she figured she could disappear and hopefully the case would be dropped without her there to testify against him.

Me and hubby were just bouncing around ideas.....all ideas were based on her still being alive, not hurt.........as we both are hoping that is the case! in vegas (at least), you do NOT have to testify if you do not want to....you cannot have the case dropped tho, the state will still prosecute...jmo

Jareau
12-21-2010, 12:34 PM
Something just popped into my head. What if "not my best friend" was actually ABOUT the ex? As in "if something happens to me, look at him, because you know, he's not exactly my best friend right now..."

I don't know. I hope she's found soon.

TREE
12-21-2010, 12:41 PM
I thought the exact same thing!

Amity
12-21-2010, 12:42 PM
in vegas (at least), you do NOT have to testify if you do not want to....you cannot have the case dropped tho, the state will still prosecute...jmo

Thank you for the information. I didn't know that!
My parents had retired to Vegas, lived there for years but since I don't go around getting into trouble, I never had a need to learn those type of laws while there.....just the basic traffic laws were all I needed to get from parents' home to a casino. :)

I think my husband was thinking like I do most times........ Thinking of any way this situation would happen where Debbie turns up alive and unharmed.
In fact, while talking we came up with all kinds of theories where Debbie is alive and I don't think we once discussed a theory where she has been harmed or worse.
It's those darn rose-colored glasses I refuse to take off.

Peliman
12-21-2010, 12:44 PM
Watching events here while the story is unfolding. Ran across this news story (video) showing griffith and naming the ex-girlfriend. A few statements and a denial of knowledge. :innocent:

http://www.fox5vegas.com/index.html

Texas Mist
12-21-2010, 01:25 PM
Something just popped into my head. What if "not my best friend" was actually ABOUT the ex? As in "if something happens to me, look at him, because you know, he's not exactly my best friend right now..."

I don't know. I hope she's found soon.

:Welcome-12-june: to WS, Jareau!

I was thinking that maybe she phrased the text message that way so that JIC the b/f found it on her phone he wouldn't think she was trying to warn anyone about him - and putting herself in more harms way.

Amity
12-21-2010, 02:26 PM
LAS VEGAS --
UPDATED: 11:03 am PST December 21, 2010

As the search for Debbie Flores-Narveaz entered its ninth day, Las Vegas Metro police could offer no new information about the “Fantasy” performer’s disappearance.

Speaking at a news conference on Tuesday, police said they were not naming any suspects in the case and would not say whether the 31-year-old dancer met with foul play. :(

More Here: http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26208121/detail.html

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 02:34 PM
Police didn't release many details, but said Debbie Flores-Narvaez went to Jason "Blu" Griffith's apartment before she disappeared.
http://twitter.com/CalvertCollins

tweet from reporter at 8 news

MsFacetious
12-21-2010, 03:54 PM
Debbie was pregnant at the time of the assault in October.

Debbie was NOT pregnant at the time of her disappearance in December.

The pregnancy could still factor in here as a motive.

Perhaps he was not aware she was no longer pregnant and operated under the assumption she was.

Perhaps he found out that she no longer was and was enraged about that.

Or perhaps it was totally unrelated.

She's pregnant, accuses him of cheating, she could be a factor in him going to jail (I wonder what his past record was, maybe it could make for a very long stay in prison), he was the last to see her...my opinion is unfortunately that he's not truly cooperating with police unless he's telling them where her body is. LE is doing the usual by not calling the BF a suspect but I'd bet in actuality they are very focused on him.


I looked at it this way...

I think if she had seen them being removed that would have been said. "She saw them being taken by a man/woman/person." But, we all know I'm pretty logical/literal so that might just be how I would say it. :waitasec:

Hmmmm In the KTNV link from above it says "Watching every day from her back porch, Howey says she noticed the Maryland plates disappear from the Maroon sedan on Wednesday. By Thursday, detectives moved onto the property to seize the car".

Saying she 'noticed them disappear' gives the feeling she saw them being removed in my mind. Oh well, we will find out soon enough. She was attentive tho, seemingly upset because it was so odd and LE took so long to get out there.

nursebeeme
12-21-2010, 04:09 PM
so she was not pregnant currently?


how do we know this?

dreamweaver
12-21-2010, 04:20 PM
so she was not pregnant currently?


how do we know this?

That is my question.

dreamweaver
12-21-2010, 04:23 PM
http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/for/2010/12/21-38/Old-Mill-grad-vanishes-in-Vegas.html

She said police have collected forensic evidence from her sister's car and home. Detectives also seized Flores Narvaez's computer and are going through her phone records.

Private investigators are donating their time to the case, her sister said.

Sad, distraught

Back in Maryland, Flores Narvaez's friends are devastated.

At Old Mill High School, Flores Narvaez stood out on the cheerleading and step squads. After graduation, she attended the University of Baltimore and Towson University, earning advanced degrees in law and business, her sister said. She was also an ambassador for the Washington Redskins Cheerleaders in 2007 and 2008.

,,,more,,,,
She recalled attending Flores Narvaez's graduation for her MBA several years ago.


Some new info in this article.

MsFacetious
12-21-2010, 04:24 PM
so she was not pregnant currently?

how do we know this?

Her sister stated that very clearly on Nancy Grace last night.

She told the police officer she was pregnant at the time of the domestic assault but she was no longer pregnant at the time of her disappearance.

Her sister did not elaborate on how the pregnancy was lost.

However, my friend who is a professional dancer pointed out... if you consider her career... a pregnancy would temporarily derail that if not end it completely. I can't imagine that while also in a bad relationship, apparently with serious financial problems... that she would choose to have a child. She seems quite intelligent and practical. One who would make decisions based on facts and circumstances.

Of course, it's possible she would give up her career as a dancer and become a lawyer in order to raise a child.

It's possible she simply had a miscarriage...

OR that she was not pregnant in the first place.

I just thought the most likely explanation was that it was not practical for her to have a child at that point in her life. I also felt her sister would have simply said "she miscarried" if that was the case.

Her sister was just on CNN a few minutes ago too, again said the exact same thing.


Nancy Grace Transcript - 12.20.10

CASAREZ: Celeste, was she pregnant when she went missing?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: No, she wasn`t.

CASAREZ: But she was pregnant this fall?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Apparently so.

CASAREZ: OK. All right.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1012/20/ng.01.html

NSS
12-21-2010, 05:54 PM
Something just popped into my head. What if "not my best friend" was actually ABOUT the ex? As in "if something happens to me, look at him, because you know, he's not exactly my best friend right now..."

I don't know. I hope she's found soon.


That was how I read the text too, since it began "if something happens with me". and followed by "keep it for your records".

Why would a person use such cryptic phrasing?
If something happens with/to me, my Mom would contact whomever contacted her to inform her.

Contact my ex - sure looks like finger pointing, however, why visit him if she was afraid of him?

MsFacetious
12-21-2010, 06:18 PM
They just talked about Debbie on HLN again. A friend of hers said she was involved with two guys...whatever that means? They also showed where her car was found as well.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 07:10 PM
JVM is covering this story tonight....

BG did not appear for his arraignment his attorney appeared for him.

Gardenlady
12-21-2010, 07:10 PM
Interesting that the possibility of her being involved with another man was mentioned, as that was what initially occurred to me when reading about the domestic violence incident where there was a struggle over her cell phone. I wondered if perhaps he was jealous, and was trying to get her phone from her to check her texts or calls, and she didn't want him to see?

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 07:11 PM
Debbie's Sister Celeste has said that she was not aware of Debbie being pregnant in Oct she only found out about the pregnancy when she flew to Las Vegas after the disapperance.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 07:16 PM
Friend of Debbie Angelica said she has met BG once, and she said he seemed very nice and was a complete gentelmen, Debbie Sister Celeste has also told a local reporter that she is upset about the domestic violence with her Sister but she also wants to make sure that she does not ruine BG life by just assuming that the domestic violence case and the disapperance and not just lumped together and assumption made that BG did something to Debbie without proof that this is the case.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 07:20 PM
Rachel Uchitel, is saying that she thinks there is more to the text message than we know, says that more relationships in Vegas break up because of jealousy than anything else..She also says that there needs to be more investigation into the best friend to see if BG may have been having a relationship with Debbies best friend.

Blondie in Spokane
12-21-2010, 07:22 PM
Flores-Narvaez's mother, Elise, told the Atlanta Journal Constitution about a strange December 1 text message her daughter sent her prior to her disappearance: "In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas," the text message read. "My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend."

“I asked Debbie what it means, and she says ‘never mind, mommy. Just keep it for your records,’” Elise Narvaez told the Atlanta Journal Constitution yesterday.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/549308-lebron-james-manny-pacquaio-tim-tebow-and-tuesdays-top-sports-buzz/entry/36144-debbie-flores-narvaez-former-washington-redskins-cheerleader-missing

eta: Debbie is the top trending thing on yahoo right now!

I wanted to bring Nurse's post forward....re-reading the text msg, I now definitely see how there could be two interpretations....I certainly didn't notice it at all until you guys mentioned it! Now I don't know what to think....

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 07:27 PM
caller asking if search warrant has been issued for BG home...no answer given LE has not said...Rachel Uchitel says that the fact that she was dancing in a adult show could have made BG very jealous and therefore BG could have cheated and that could have been motive..Angelica Bridges friend of Debbie said that Debbie would not have told co-workers that she was being abused or that she was pregnant, Rachel also said that had her employer found out she was pregnant they may have removed her from the top dance spot she had in the show...Panel members says that LE needs to find out if BG would have wanted Debbie to keep the baby or not that could also lead to motive.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 07:30 PM
That is all for the story on JVM but Nancy will be covering this tonight also.

crymesolver
12-21-2010, 07:31 PM
I'm sure the fight over a phone was because he was trying to look through the history. I wonder if her other boyfriend has had any encounters with Griffith.

maybe she was pregnant and it wasn't his, and I am wondering if maybe her disagreement with her own roommate was over her relationships. A lot of times the GF will tell there friend what they are doing is wrong, I won't cover for your lies, stay away from that guy, and it causes fights.

The friend who said he was a gentlemen must have pretty low standards, I have no idea why talented, beautiful young women mess with scumbag low lifes.

If he thinks he is Mr. toughguy, music superstar, mr. suave with the ladies, and she was cheating on him, he would kill her.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 08:12 PM
Jeam is in for NG and they are covering Debbie's case..Jean is going over the Domestic Violence attack report...The court case has now been continued until April...During the DV attack it is being said that BG kept saying "I am not going to jail"..Jean is really mad that BG did not appear in court today Jean says that a man would stand in court and enter a plea, Ray Guichae is saying that he didnt show up because he didnt want to be in front of the media having questions asked of him...LV reporter is saying that LE took photos of the chunks of Debbie's hair that was pulled out of her scalp...Debbies sister Celeste is saying that she has not spoken to LE today, she knew from talking to LE yesterday what was being released today, she is saying she went to court today so that she could meet BG today and hopefully be able to sit down and talk to BG...

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 08:14 PM
Celeste says that Debbie has a huge amount of friends in LV and that they are helping put up fliers and trying to find Debbie, Celeste also says that she had no idea of the Domestic Violence attack until she flew out after the disappearance.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 08:26 PM
Jean is saying that the fact that BG kicked or punched her legs when her legs how she made her living by dancing and that by taking her phone so she could not call LE is where the coercion charge came into play...Merriliz Monson was good friend of Debbie's and they went shopping just a few days before she went missing, while they were shopping Debbie got a phone call, Debbie told her the call was from an ex who the relationship had ended on Oct 22, Debbie was asking the person to wait on her so they could talk in person and not over the phone...Caller wants to know if BG has any other DV charges against him, LV reporter says the Oct 22nd was the only thing on BG criminal background..Tom Shamshack says that even though LE is not calling BG a person of interest or a suspect that he is in the cross hairs of LE and they are watching him very closely.

Coldpizza
12-21-2010, 08:27 PM
Well it would be informative to know if she was or wasn't still pregnant. How far along would she be and if she wasn't still pregnant what happened? For me, if she wasn't still pregnant that adds even more questions to her disappearance. Was anger and control involved?

Coldpizza
12-21-2010, 08:38 PM
Yikes I didn't mean to stop the thread!

Coldpizza
12-21-2010, 08:40 PM
No communication since Dec 12. Cell phone has not been found.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 08:43 PM
Celeste says the last time she spoke with Debbie was on the 10th when she called to speak to her nephew about Christmas..October is when Debbie found out that BG was cheating on her and they had been together for about a year. Jean and LV reporter says that BG took her phone to keep her from calling LE because BG said he was not going to jail...Another panelist says that it takes alot of force to pull the hair from the scalp..pscholigist says that the reason for women going back with men who hurt them is because the abuser is able to make them feel it will never happen again and the victim had no self asteem...Pat Brown says that she has looked over Debbie's face book for the last year and that Debbie was obsessed with BG and that Debbie kept using sad face icons throughout the whole year and that Debbie was making posts about being treated badly in a relationship and that this was obviously a troubled relationship the whole time they were together...Caller wants to know if BG could have been the one to send the text to Debbie's Mom, Tom Shamshack says that is a possiblity...TS also says that CSI will be looking at the fingerprints from the vehicle to see if they have any that match BG...Cell phone has not been found or powered on since the disapperance...Jean also says that Debbie would not have just left town since she had just gotten her dream job. and that Debbie had nothing to run away from.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 08:45 PM
Yikes I didn't mean to stop the thread!

jump right on in, I am trying to get it all in the best I can....Not to many people on the thread for some reason.

Coldpizza
12-21-2010, 08:48 PM
Well the sister would not comment on the pregnancy

Coldpizza
12-21-2010, 08:49 PM
jump right on in, I am trying to get it all in the best I can....Not to many people on the thread for some reason. Your great at surmising! Thank you

Coldpizza
12-21-2010, 08:52 PM
Well prayers that she is found. Her sister is so brokenhearted.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 08:54 PM
Jean is asking why someone that would be bearing his child, why he would not be showing up in court..her friend Merriliz is saying that Debbie was always very busy and tired due to her schedule..Caller wants to know if Debbie lost the baby from the DV could charges be upgraded...Celeste says that she will not comment on how the pregnancy ended..she also says that Debbie did not have a self esteem problem...Alex Sanchez says there are charges BG could face murder charges depending on how far along she was in the pregnancy if that is what caused her to lose the baby....Alex also says that the DV case could fall apart if Debbie is not found...Celeste says the message she wants to give to the public is if you have any info please call the authorities, she also says that LE is doing there job to see if there is any correlation between the DV and the disappearance and not to automatically assume there is a connection.

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Well here is my cents on the pregnancy, You have a dancer who in her mind had finally reached the pinnacle in her career that she had always dreamed of, so in my mind she either had an abortion to keep her career or there is a real possibility that she may not have been pregnant...I feel the Sister knows the answer but will never say how it ended...The fact that she did not even find out she was pregnant until after she flew into LV but she knew for a fact that she was no longer pregnant when she went missing tells me that there is documentation LE has that she aborted the fetus...JMO

Kimmer
12-21-2010, 09:04 PM
Caller is wanting to know if the text message is actually saying that her ex is not her best friend...Pat Brown says that is a very good way to interpret it..Pat says that LE will need to look at all the evidence as to not get stuck going in just 1 direction. Show has ended.

Fairy1
12-21-2010, 09:10 PM
Thank you, Kimmer!

I'm so glad Debbie is getting national media coverage. I just don't know what to think at this point. Her sister really seems to be almost protecting the ex. Under the circumstances, I'm not sure I would be so open-minded if I were in her shoes.

I hope Debbie is found soon.

Blondie in Spokane
12-21-2010, 09:11 PM
Thanks for the updates Kimmer & Coldpizza!

Bratislava
12-21-2010, 09:16 PM
Honestly it sounds like Blu wanted to move out of the relationship and she wanted to stay together. Anyone else getting that vibe?

Nancy2441
12-21-2010, 09:19 PM
Thank you, Kimmer!

I'm so glad Debbie is getting national media coverage. I just don't know what to think at this point. Her sister really seems to be almost protecting the ex. Under the circumstances, I'm not sure I would be so open-minded if I were in her shoes.

I hope Debbie is found soon.

I felt the same way about the sister defending the ex-boyfriend. Either she is in complete denial over the abusive nature of the relationship or she has information from LE about a possible stalker of Deborah.

KR2tonenow
12-21-2010, 10:00 PM
Celeste says the last time she spoke with Debbie was on the 10th when she called to speak to her nephew about Christmas..October is when Debbie found out that BG was cheating on her and they had been together for about a year. Jean and LV reporter says that BG took her phone to keep her from calling LE because BG said he was not going to jail...Another panelist says that it takes alot of force to pull the hair from the scalp..pscholigist says that the reason for women going back with men who hurt them is because the abuser is able to make them feel it will never happen again and the victim had no self asteem...Pat Brown says that she has looked over Debbie's face book for the last year and that Debbie was obsessed with BG and that Debbie kept using sad face icons throughout the whole year and that Debbie was making posts about being treated badly in a relationship and that this was obviously a troubled relationship the whole time they were together...Caller wants to know if BG could have been the one to send the text to Debbie's Mom, Tom Shamshack says that is a possiblity...TS also says that CSI will be looking at the fingerprints from the vehicle to see if they have any that match BG...Cell phone has not been found or powered on since the disapperance...Jean also says that Debbie would not have just left town since she had just gotten her dream job. and that Debbie had nothing to run away from.

Sounds like LE is on tops of things, this BG didn't want to go to jail. My feeling is DFN was to testify so he wanted her dead. This feels like the case with the reality TV star who killed the woman in LV.

sherryk
12-21-2010, 10:24 PM
Something just popped into my head. What if "not my best friend" was actually ABOUT the ex? As in "if something happens to me, look at him, because you know, he's not exactly my best friend right now..."

I don't know. I hope she's found soon.


I agree with the above 100%.

"In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas," the text sent on Dec. 1 read. "My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend."

Let me pick apart this text the way that I see it.

"In case ther is ever any emergency with me"
above says "emergency" ?? why was there not a plan when she went to Las Vegas as to if an emergency was to occur.. why would the text be so close to as the ending of the relationship???

"contact Blu Griffith"
above seems to indicate that he would know what to do or be able to assist in someway (if there was in fact a stalker) however, he to our knowledge has not come foward stating that he knows that she may need help or there was an issue that she was in fear of "somthing"

"my x boyfriend"
above made it a point to say to go my "X BOYFRIEND"
above specifically mention the work or phrase "X", why would X boyfriend have current information on her fears, secrets and leads on if an emergency happened.. x boyfriends is past tense .. being that he is out of the loop on her life for the most part.

"not my best friend"
above implying that he is not her best friend and perhaps on UNFRIENDLY terms. I would like to point out also, if there was a best friend has she or he come foward to claim status of best friend to help with information... if not to go to best friend.. does that mean that she confided in x boyfriend and not best friend.. doesnt make a lot of sence in a break up.. i would go to best friend INSTEAD of X boyfriend, especially after an assault in the recent past.

If you look at this the way I have I think that some will agree.. Many sentences that we speak or text..are facts that can be taken different way. In what we are being told with the domestic violence and perhaps another woman or man involved my theory to "me" makes sence.

One other point that I think that the sister "celeste" (forgive me if name is wrong of sister) I know she would like to believe sister is a stong willed woman and full of self esteem.. that may be true in career and friends and determination to have success in life HOWEVER that does NOT mean that self esteem was lowered by abuse.. it happens. it is an abuse cycle and little by little it eats away at self esteem.. alot of time the victem does not reveal it ESPECIALLY being such a beautiful girl.. the first reaction from someone who hasnt been through abuse you be to her.. wow you are so much better than that and you can have anyone.. get out of it.. and of course love does things to us that keeps us coming back.. with the slim chance of hope it will be better.. that a person can change.

I do believe that he perhaps was cheating. I do believe that it is natural for her to be in a jealous state of mind.. a year long love of ups and downs.. natuarlly one would be jealous and let down by a new girl so soon..
the same goes for her.. a woman of the beauty is not looked over by alot and i mean alot of eligible men.. BG would be an idiot not to know that she is wanted and easy to replace him.. that would be a major jealous issue that could spark and argument. To be quite honest it is much easier for a beautiful woman to find a new mate than it is a male most the time.. she could of flaunted it to him to spark a reaction from him.. that one thing she may have wanted.. to know he still cared...

Love and abuse is a fine line between love and hate.. wants and unrealistic expectations of somehow this has GOT to work out... it can be fixxed and sometime the woman goes back knowing it cant be fixxed due to self esteem.

I think that Celeste needs to look as the self esteem as not an insult to her sister but perhaps a reason to look at the big picture and do a little research on domestic abuse. It is a hard thing to completly get out of.. It took me two years to finally get the courage to STOP it.. i had to hit bottom and finally realize that I was better than that.. it took a long time and much heartache after that to finally get the idea of another taking my place...

I know this is a long post. I wanted to pick apart the text message in what it very well could mean.

I wanted to touch base on the cycle of domestic abuse. The sister may not know the cycle of domestic abuse and it most certainly takes self esteem.. maybe not to the outside world but the control the abuser puts apon the victem is a major deteriotion of self esteem and a need to be part of it in some way.. a heart doesnt want to let go of the fantasy of what they thought it would be in the beginning.

Just my opinion. I hope that it makes sence to someone. I still say the x boyfriend BG is the most likely person to have information tucked away that he is not revealing.. period.

thanks for reading this. I felt I needed to post a possible reason for the text.
thanks for reading and feel free to disagree or agree or add possible reasons that my ideas may not be a stong consideration that they are looking into.

If Celeste is reading this.. no offense.. but dont portay her as a stong willed woman that NO way could loose self esteem.. keep her the victem as she is and please do not lead viewers to possibly come to conclusion that she had free will and determination.. it stuck me as a defense of DF as to proving she is a good person...we know she was.. but she is missing ... consider all the states of mind that could of played into this.

sherlockh
12-21-2010, 10:42 PM
I agree with the assumption that she meant her ex not being her best friend. And more specifically, some people break up and remain best friends. IMO Deborah points out that the breakup was not good and they did not stay best friends, and the breakup is the direct reason for her emergency.

Then again, why would she go there alone at night if she was so worried?

Nancy2441
12-21-2010, 11:40 PM
I agree with the above 100%.

"In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas," the text sent on Dec. 1 read. "My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend."

Let me pick apart this text the way that I see it.

"In case ther is ever any emergency with me"
above says "emergency" ?? why was there not a plan when she went to Las Vegas as to if an emergency was to occur.. why would the text be so close to as the ending of the relationship???

"contact Blu Griffith"
above seems to indicate that he would know what to do or be able to assist in someway (if there was in fact a stalker) however, he to our knowledge has not come foward stating that he knows that she may need help or there was an issue that she was in fear of "somthing"

"my x boyfriend"
above made it a point to say to go my "X BOYFRIEND"
above specifically mention the work or phrase "X", why would X boyfriend have current information on her fears, secrets and leads on if an emergency happened.. x boyfriends is past tense .. being that he is out of the loop on her life for the most part.

"not my best friend"
above implying that he is not her best friend and perhaps on UNFRIENDLY terms. I would like to point out also, if there was a best friend has she or he come foward to claim status of best friend to help with information... if not to go to best friend.. does that mean that she confided in x boyfriend and not best friend.. doesnt make a lot of sence in a break up.. i would go to best friend INSTEAD of X boyfriend, especially after an assault in the recent past.

If you look at this the way I have I think that some will agree.. Many sentences that we speak or text..are facts that can be taken different way. In what we are being told with the domestic violence and perhaps another woman or man involved my theory to "me" makes sence.

One other point that I think that the sister "celeste" (forgive me if name is wrong of sister) I know she would like to believe sister is a stong willed woman and full of self esteem.. that may be true in career and friends and determination to have success in life HOWEVER that does NOT mean that self esteem was lowered by abuse.. it happens. it is an abuse cycle and little by little it eats away at self esteem.. alot of time the victem does not reveal it ESPECIALLY being such a beautiful girl.. the first reaction from someone who hasnt been through abuse you be to her.. wow you are so much better than that and you can have anyone.. get out of it.. and of course love does things to us that keeps us coming back.. with the slim chance of hope it will be better.. that a person can change.

I do believe that he perhaps was cheating. I do believe that it is natural for her to be in a jealous state of mind.. a year long love of ups and downs.. natuarlly one would be jealous and let down by a new girl so soon..
the same goes for her.. a woman of the beauty is not looked over by alot and i mean alot of eligible men.. BG would be an idiot not to know that she is wanted and easy to replace him.. that would be a major jealous issue that could spark and argument. To be quite honest it is much easier for a beautiful woman to find a new mate than it is a male most the time.. she could of flaunted it to him to spark a reaction from him.. that one thing she may have wanted.. to know he still cared...

Love and abuse is a fine line between love and hate.. wants and unrealistic expectations of somehow this has GOT to work out... it can be fixxed and sometime the woman goes back knowing it cant be fixxed due to self esteem.

I think that Celeste needs to look as the self esteem as not an insult to her sister but perhaps a reason to look at the big picture and do a little research on domestic abuse. It is a hard thing to completly get out of.. It took me two years to finally get the courage to STOP it.. i had to hit bottom and finally realize that I was better than that.. it took a long time and much heartache after that to finally get the idea of another taking my place...

I know this is a long post. I wanted to pick apart the text message in what it very well could mean.

I wanted to touch base on the cycle of domestic abuse. The sister may not know the cycle of domestic abuse and it most certainly takes self esteem.. maybe not to the outside world but the control the abuser puts apon the victem is a major deteriotion of self esteem and a need to be part of it in some way.. a heart doesnt want to let go of the fantasy of what they thought it would be in the beginning.

Just my opinion. I hope that it makes sence to someone. I still say the x boyfriend BG is the most likely person to have information tucked away that he is not revealing.. period.

thanks for reading this. I felt I needed to post a possible reason for the text.
thanks for reading and feel free to disagree or agree or add possible reasons that my ideas may not be a stong consideration that they are looking into.

If Celeste is reading this.. no offense.. but dont portay her as a stong willed woman that NO way could loose self esteem.. keep her the victem as she is and please do not lead viewers to possibly come to conclusion that she had free will and determination.. it stuck me as a defense of DF as to proving she is a good person...we know she was.. but she is missing ... consider all the states of mind that could of played into this.

Thanks so much for your excellent post about your interpretation of the text message and the nature of domestic violence.

I felt the same way watching NG tonight with the interview with the sister, Celeste. She was so insulted that anyone would think her sister didn't have self esteem, she had to defend that her sister of course had good self esteem and a "happy life". No woman in an abusive relationship is happy, and to think they are is well being extremely naive to say the least.

Listening to the sister this evening it reminded me of someone else, but I couldn't remember who...then it hit me... Denise Brown, sister of Nicole Brown Simpson. She too, didn't believe her sister had been abused. But of course after seeing the photos of her sister's previous beating at the hands of Simpson, hearing the audio tapes of the 911 calls, she eventually became very educated about the nature of domestic violence.

I think Celeste doesn't want to face the truth about her sister's life and she has some serious judgements about women that are in abusive relationships. I also believe that will change in time for her as it did for Denise Brown and countless other family members of DV victims. I'm sure all these facts coming out about Deborah's life since she disappeared has to be completely overwhelming for her sister. I do really feel for her. I think it's human nature to want to believe our loved ones are living a happy life whether that's true or not.

Fairy1
12-22-2010, 12:25 AM
Can't find it now, but IIRC, there was a reference to her FB or MS where she said she had been blessed with an abundance of common sense - or something along those lines. I'm not seeing any evidence of that, based on what we know right now.

It just doesn't make sense!

Nancy2441
12-22-2010, 01:12 AM
Yes here it is fairy from dreamweaver's previous post. It was on myspace that she said she had been blessed with an abundance of common sense.


http://www.youtube.com/debbiefloresxo
This youtube video was noted on her FB page.

http://www.facebook.com/debbiesxo


http://www.myspace.com/debbiesmilkduds
This appears to be her myspace page, and repeat info from her fb page.
There are some provacative poses/video. (or maybe I am just getting old)

JMO

Amity
12-22-2010, 01:46 AM
Local TV & Newspapers in Las Vegas


Las Vegas Review-Journal
http://www.lvrj.com/news/missing-dancer-had-confrontation-with-boyfriend-police-report-says-112229599.html

Las Vegas Sun
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/dec/20/fantasy-dancer-still-missing-after-week-searching/
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Las Vegas News - LOCAL - TV

http://www.ktnv.com/category/87059/ktnv-local-news-headlines <---Channel 13

http://www.fox5vegas.com/index.html

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13722217/police-offer-few-details-in-update-missing-dancer-case

http://www.mynews3.com/index.php

SusanB
12-22-2010, 03:06 AM
Hello all, just got caught up reading all the posts.
My :twocents: I believe the text message to Debbie's mother was a cryptic message saying basically, "if anything happens to me, Blu is the one." Seems she had to word it oddly so that if JG grabbed her phone (as it seems he is susceptible to doing!) and read through it maybe he would not get the meaning. That is why she told her mother to "keep it for her records."
Why these beautiful smart talented women hook up with these "playas" is beyond me. Just can't see the attraction to all the drama associated. It's like all sensible Master's degree intelligence goes poof when they get around them.
IMOHO there was no pregnancy. I believe that she just said that to get XBF's attention - men love to think their male prowess created a baby, and Debbie may have thought that would make him be with her.
To me this does not look good for Debbie. My gut feeling is that she is no longer with us. :(
I sincerely pray that I am wrong

chasing.halos
12-22-2010, 12:39 PM
I have been following this case but have not read all pages here so forgive me if this has already been discussed... but have we discussed that the text message to Deborah's mother could have been written by Blu himself?

TIA

oceanblueeyes
12-22-2010, 02:01 PM
I have been following this case but have not read all pages here so forgive me if this has already been discussed... but have we discussed that the text message to Deborah's mother could have been written by Blu himself?

TIA

It really seemed to have been done by Debbie.

Iirc, her mother asked her about it when she talked with her after she received the text.

IMO

SusanB
12-22-2010, 02:03 PM
Yes, Chasing, that has been discussed and is a definite possibility! He may have written it to throw the blame off himself. Not too bright IMO.

SusanB
12-22-2010, 02:03 PM
Agree with Ocean.

Willow57
12-22-2010, 03:10 PM
Well here is my cents on the pregnancy, You have a dancer who in her mind had finally reached the pinnacle in her career that she had always dreamed of, so in my mind she either had an abortion to keep her career or there is a real possibility that she may not have been pregnant...I feel the Sister knows the answer but will never say how it ended...The fact that she did not even find out she was pregnant until after she flew into LV but she knew for a fact that she was no longer pregnant when she went missing tells me that there is documentation LE has that she aborted the fetus...JMO


.......I agree completely with this paragraph. Mainly for 2 reasons-she had just landed her dream job as a solo performer in "Fantasy" and the fact that her sister stated that she would not answer the question as to how she was no longer pregnant. Whatever the situation was with her pregnacy I hope she is found safe and soon.

Willow57
12-22-2010, 03:14 PM
Also I did notice that on her MYSPACE page Debbie did mention stalkers and that she wouldn't state where she currently worked because there were so many stalkers.

MsFacetious
12-22-2010, 03:52 PM
If she was concerned that Blu might see the text she sent... why not just ERASE it? Send it while you are in the bathroom at work, then erase it. It's just that simple. That's what doesn't make sense to me.

.......I agree completely with this paragraph. Mainly for 2 reasons-she had just landed her dream job as a solo performer in "Fantasy" and the fact that her sister stated that she would not answer the question as to how she was no longer pregnant. Whatever the situation was with her pregnacy I hope she is found safe and soon.

Her sister also said that she HAD BEEN pregnant, but that she wouldn't discuss how it ended. I think she is avoiding discussing anything that might make Debbie look bad. As we saw with the self esteem thing, she is very defensive of anything critical of her. An abortion would definitely not be something her sister would want to share.

I think if Debbie had made the whole thing up, she would just simply refuse to discuss the pregnancy at all. I don't think she would have answered the question and kept the discussion going. She could have easily just said "I didn't know about that till I arrived here so I'm not going to discuss something I have no knowledge of."

I think the answer to how the pregnancy ended is something that will make Debbie look less sympathetic.

If she did happen to make it up... It would REALLY suck if she was killed because she lied about being pregnant, then lied about having an abortion just to make her boyfriend angry. We've seen that before and it's even more tragic I think....

fullofsecrets
12-22-2010, 04:13 PM
IMO it must be a challenge to be lusted after and fawned over by so many men, while trying to balance your own feelings about body image and self esteem. Perhaps she felt even more driven to BG because "he loved the real her" or "knew who she really was". Performers in these shows rotate through so much, one minute your dancing lead and the next you're out of a job, I would think someone might feel disposable or feel pushed to please everyone and be perfect no matter what cost. Even people with Masters degrees are susceptible to liars and low self esteem, we all are.

SusanB
12-22-2010, 04:51 PM
If she was concerned that Blu might see the text she sent... why not just ERASE it? Send it while you are in the bathroom at work, then erase it. It's just that simple. That's what doesn't make sense to me.
I did not think of that MsF, you are right!

Nancy2441
12-22-2010, 04:57 PM
One thing I haven't heard anything about...any future plans for searches? I know it is flooding now in Vegas as it has been in much of Southern California, and of course Christmas is coming up, but I would think by Sunday or Monday searches would be possible. All I've heard so far is the sister passing out flyers.

Willow57
12-22-2010, 05:12 PM
........"Her sister also said that she HAD BEEN pregnant, but that she wouldn't discuss how it ended. I think she is avoiding discussing anything that might make Debbie look bad. As we saw with the self esteem thing, she is very defensive of anything critical of her. An abortion would definitely not be something her sister would want to share.

I think if Debbie had made the whole thing up, she would just simply refuse to discuss the pregnancy at all. I don't think she would have answered the question and kept the discussion going. She could have easily just said "I didn't know about that till I arrived here so I'm not going to discuss something I have no knowledge of."

I think the answer to how the pregnancy ended is something that will make Debbie look less sympathetic.

If she did happen to make it up... It would REALLY suck if she was killed because she lied about being pregnant, then lied about having an abortion just to make her boyfriend angry. We've seen that before and it's even more tragic I think...." SNIPPED by me(Sorry)

....I agree MsFacetious. I think the answer is in your first paragraph concerning the fact that she was no longer pregnant and how that came about. Her sister seems to be trying to be protect her image. JMO I feel so sorry for the sister. Because of this situation she has been thrust into the limelight with no time to prepare on top of trying to deal with the fact that her sister is missing. I would never want to walk in the shoes of a loved one of a missing person. GODSPEED! I hope she is found soon; and strength for the family.

sherryk
12-22-2010, 06:25 PM
I am sure the car hold alot of evidence. I am also sure that LE knows much more than they are releasing.. due to the fact they are basically saying nothing at all.

I do not see DF going off on a vacation or anything of the sort. The license removed from car. This does not look good. I think it is only a matter of using cell phones and other clues to find the body and/or get some additional information from the X.

I know they make a point to say no person of interest, no suspect but the X is being looked at as he is the only suspect.. from what they are revealing there is no real reason to consider anything else except the x boyfriend at this time.

Hope she is found safe but odds are against it.

cluciano63
12-22-2010, 06:31 PM
Can't people just break up and leave one another alone? What is with men that they can't take being dumped anymore? I don't remember quite so much of this when I was younger...(if that is what it turns out to be, don't mean to accuse or jump the gun.) But in any case, far too many men kill their exes or wives rather than just leave or let them leave. Why can't they take rejection? No one likes it, but it happens to us all.

Kimmer
12-22-2010, 06:43 PM
HLN just covered this case, and the Sister Celeste was on again, she stated that she spoke to BG once before she flew out to LV when she found out Debbie was missing, Celeste has been wanting to meet with BG and have a face to face talk about what there relationship was like and if he could give her any other info about her Sister, but he has yet to even talk to her by phone again and does not seem like he wants to cooperate with the family, also once again the ? came up about how the pregnancy ended and once again she refused to answer, I for the life of me have no idea why when the MSM already knows a person is not going to answer a certain ? or line of ?'s then they don't just leave it alone and let LE figure that out..Ask a different line of ?'s and see if we can get some new info...Grrr.

Willow57
12-22-2010, 07:40 PM
Just heard on JVM: Deborah had three P. O.'s taken out against her from three different men! Huh?....Seems she may have had a difficult time letting go-also.

This is getting stranger and stranger!

SusanB
12-22-2010, 07:44 PM
This is becoming weird. Three PFA's against her? I cannot wait to find out what that is about....:waitasec:

Patty G
12-22-2010, 07:51 PM
IMO, women can be very vindictive. Some use "I'm pregnant" to keep the guy and then use "I got an abortion" just to tick them off. If she had three PO's against her, clearly she was not able to control her emotions when relationships end.

In my lifetime, I have seen this often with women in my son's life and it's not fun at all.

Unfortunatly, something clearly happened that evening and it went way beyond a normal conversation. :(

Willow57
12-22-2010, 07:53 PM
That certainly does widen the scope of who may have had a "grudge or bad feelings" toward her.

If something terrible has happened to her it could have been an X, or one of the men who had protective orders against her; could have been a stalker.....or just a random stranger.

I hope she is okay-but I don't know?

SusanB
12-22-2010, 08:04 PM
Patty I agree. I had posted earlier that it appears that this relationship was very volatile. IMO what a mis-match if all the information is true about Debbie and all her education - Master's degree, law degree, etc.
But somehow all the education a bright talented woman may have disappears over a man.
I would love to have more info about these PFA's- can anyone look this up?

Fairy1
12-22-2010, 08:06 PM
One thing I haven't heard anything about...any future plans for searches? I know it is flooding now in Vegas as it has been in much of Southern California, and of course Christmas is coming up, but I would think by Sunday or Monday searches would be possible. All I've heard so far is the sister passing out flyers.

I haven't heard of any search plans. Considering the distance between the last sighting and the location where her car was found, they might not have a clue where to look.

The rain is supposed to stop after tonight and I assume LE has had time to check cell phone pings, so maybe we'll hear something about a search.

Then again, LE may not feel a search is necessary.

Amity
12-22-2010, 08:37 PM
Haven't scrolled back so if this is a repeat, my apologies.

This is the complete Presser.
Questions by reporters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8p7ByZsgHg

Amity
12-22-2010, 08:49 PM
In noooo way am I trying to make Deborah look bad, but I've been thinking of only positive outcomes (still alive) because I don't want to think the worst.....too many of those bad endings lately.

So in trying to come up with reasons why Deborah disappeared, and in light of this latest information about her own troubles with the law, I was wondering......

Does anyone else notice that when the MSM reports on her disappearance, they always state: "According to her Face Book, Deborah holds degrees in Law and Business"
OR
"Her MySpace profile says that she holds advanced degrees in law and business."

Does this mean that reporters haven't actually checked this out themselves....to see if in fact she does hold those degrees?
Is there any way for us, general public, to check this out?

I mean, it wouldn't be the first time we here at WS have seen a disappearance because 'half-truths' were catching up to someone.

With her financial woes, bad break-ups, obvious problems with self-esteem and now we learn of her legal troubles, if someone felt their past was catching up to them, would they go to all this trouble to disappear themselves?

Speaking of self-esteem.....
Here we have a smart, intelligent, talented, beautiful woman who could prob have any man she wanted with the snap of her finger ...
who'd of ever guessed under that beauty and brains was a woman with such self-esteem problems.
I mean, from the surface, it looked like she had it all!
Guess that goes to show ya....Don't judge a book by it's cover. My Grandma was right.

Fairy1
12-22-2010, 09:09 PM
In noooo way am I trying to make Deborah look bad, but I've been thinking of only positive outcomes (still alive) because I don't want to think the worst.....too many of those bad endings lately.

So in trying to come up with reasons why Deborah disappeared, and in light of this latest information about her own troubles with the law, I was wondering......

Does anyone else notice that when the MSM reports on her disappearance, they always state: "According to her Face Book, Deborah holds degrees in Law and Business"
OR
"Her MySpace profile says that she holds advanced degrees in law and business."

Does this mean that reporters haven't actually checked this out themselves....to see if in fact she does hold those degrees?
Is there any way for us, general public, to check this out?

I mean, it wouldn't be the first time we here at WS have seen a disappearance because 'half-truths' were catching up to someone.

With her financial woes, bad break-ups, obvious problems with self-esteem and now we learn of her legal troubles, if someone felt their past was catching up to them, would they go to all this trouble to disappear themselves?

Speaking of self-esteem.....
Here we have a smart, intelligent, talented, beautiful woman who could prob have any man she wanted with the snap of her finger ...
who'd of ever guessed under that beauty and brains was a woman with such self-esteem problems.
I mean, from the surface, it looked like she had it all!
Guess that goes to show ya....Don't judge a book by it's cover. My Grandma was right.

You make some good points and, I agree, this could go either way. But Debbie wouldn't be the first intelligent woman to fall prey to a POS, that's for sure.

What I keep coming back to is the DV with the ex. There are literally thousands of girls just like Debbie in Vegas - many of them are dancers or entertainers of one kind or another who may have overzealous fans or followers. But they generally don't just turn up missing days before a court hearing for a fairly recent DV case. The circumstances of this case are concerning.

Amity
12-22-2010, 09:10 PM
OK, found something. Not much but.....

"I went to Law School for a year but decided to pursue my MBA instead (for now). "

In some interviews and some talking heads have led me to believe that she graduated with a law degree.
This writing of hers on Model Mayhem has her saying she quit law school after a year.

ModelMayhem: http://www.modelmayhem.com/1212581

Amity
12-22-2010, 09:23 PM
But they generally don't just turn up missing days before a court hearing for a fairly recent DV case. The circumstances of this case are concerning.

Above Snipped and BBM

Oh, you are soooo right!
I keep hoping the timing of the hearing and her disappearance are just coincidence but now with the other background information coming out, it's looking worse and worse for Debbie.

Her license plate missing......Vegas being my old stomping grounds when my parents retired there, it wasn't uncommon for my parents, me and hubby, neighbors/friends to have to go to DMV to fill out the forms to get new license plates for our cars.

If you left your car parked too long, unattended, you could probably guarantee that you wouldn't have license plates when you got back.

Our truck broke down in the back parking lot of Arizona Char...and by the time we got to it the next morning, our plate was gone.

Mom and Dad would just chuckle and say "You take the good with the bad...it's all part of living in Vegas". lol

So I'm thinking..... the fact Debbie's plate was taken, might not have anything to do with her actual disappearance, no?

oceanblueeyes
12-22-2010, 09:36 PM
Can't people just break up and leave one another alone? What is with men that they can't take being dumped anymore? I don't remember quite so much of this when I was younger...(if that is what it turns out to be, don't mean to accuse or jump the gun.) But in any case, far too many men kill their exes or wives rather than just leave or let them leave. Why can't they take rejection? No one likes it, but it happens to us all.

I thought he was the one that had cheated on her?

From what I gather he had rejected her but she still went to his home often even after he became her ex.

IMO

Fairy1
12-22-2010, 09:41 PM
Above Snipped and BBM

Oh, you are soooo right!
I keep hoping the timing of the hearing and her disappearance are just coincidence but now with the other background information coming out, it's looking worse and worse for Debbie.

Her license plate missing......Vegas being my old stomping grounds when my parents retired there, it wasn't uncommon for my parents, me and hubby, neighbors/friends to have to go to DMV to fill out the forms to get new license plates for our cars.

If you left your car parked too long, unattended, you could probably guarantee that you wouldn't have license plates when you got back.

Our truck broke down in the back parking lot of Arizona Char...and by the time we got to it the next morning, our plate was gone.

Mom and Dad would just chuckle and say "You take the good with the bad...it's all part of living in Vegas". lol

So I'm thinking..... the fact Debbie's plate was taken, might not have anything to do with her actual disappearance, no?

That is crazy! I've lived here for over 35 years and NEVER had my plates stolen! But here we have a missing person and a missing person's car with no plates, that's a problem, IMO.

Amity
12-22-2010, 09:43 PM
I thought he was the one that had cheated on her?

From what I gather he had rejected her but she still went to his home often even after he became her ex.

IMO

OceanBlueEyes, You're right.
Most articles I've read about the DV charge against him, it's stated that all three were together at one point when it happened.
Him, his new girlfriend and Debbie.....I'm trying to remember exactly but I think Debbie was following him and new girlfriend in the car or they all ended up together at new girlfriend's home.

Pic I saw, New girlfriend is dressed in a cocktail server outfit so she's probably another dancer? showgirl? or maybe just a cocktail waitress at a casino.

oceanblueeyes
12-22-2010, 09:44 PM
OK, found something. Not much but.....

"I went to Law School for a year but decided to pursue my MBA instead (for now). "

In some interviews and some talking heads have led me to believe that she graduated with a law degree.
This writing of hers on Model Mayhem has her saying she quit law school after a year.

ModelMayhem: http://www.modelmayhem.com/1212581

From your link......

These words are hanting now.

I am looking for a partner in excitement, someone willing to jump out of a plane with me, then relax at sunset and just cuddle. If there is a way to be wild and crazy and tranquil at the same time, I'm it! It's important to live life to the fullest as you don't know what tomorrow will bring...or if it will be here, but still have a good outlook and presence for the future. And the most IMPORTANT thing to remember in this life... Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain!!

Amity
12-22-2010, 09:48 PM
That is crazy! I've lived here for over 35 years and NEVER had my plates stolen! But here we have a missing person and a missing person's car with no plates, that's a problem, IMO.

Maybe because our plates while visiting in Nevada had California plates?
I dunno......but I know of several that were stolen.
No biggy....at least the vehicles weren't stolen or banged up/vandalized in any way.

Just thinking, again hoping Debbie is alive and there will be a decent outcome....that maybe someone, totally unrelated to Debbie missing, saw the car sitting there in an empty lot for a couple days and decided they needed a license plate.

gypsyblue
12-22-2010, 09:50 PM
Being an entertainer on the strip for 12 years in lv, I must say I agree with whats being said about stalkers and such. live it. While I agree the circumstances of this case are concerning, I cannot rule out the possiblity of her meeting with danger after the visit with the x.....

whose to say that she did not hook up intentionally with someone else out of anger from rejection after the visit with the x....or even unintentionally afterward by maybe going somewhere off to sit and was being followed.....

the fact that she has 3 diff po's by three different men tells me she is quite feisty herself, and while I am not condoning the dv by the x, I feel that this was the type of drama she was used to, and chose to keep going back to, which could have put her in harms way with ANYONE....

I do not rule out the x due to the text to her mother, but it could mean anything. Its just hard for me to personally pinpoint. If I were to get in a fight with my x and disappear right after there would be way more poi's that I would certainly hope were looked at.....just sayin.....jmo

prayers for Debbie ....

oceanblueeyes
12-22-2010, 09:51 PM
In noooo way am I trying to make Deborah look bad, but I've been thinking of only positive outcomes (still alive) because I don't want to think the worst.....too many of those bad endings lately.

So in trying to come up with reasons why Deborah disappeared, and in light of this latest information about her own troubles with the law, I was wondering......

Does anyone else notice that when the MSM reports on her disappearance, they always state: "According to her Face Book, Deborah holds degrees in Law and Business"
OR
"Her MySpace profile says that she holds advanced degrees in law and business."

Does this mean that reporters haven't actually checked this out themselves....to see if in fact she does hold those degrees?
Is there any way for us, general public, to check this out?

I mean, it wouldn't be the first time we here at WS have seen a disappearance because 'half-truths' were catching up to someone.

With her financial woes, bad break-ups, obvious problems with self-esteem and now we learn of her legal troubles, if someone felt their past was catching up to them, would they go to all this trouble to disappear themselves?

Speaking of self-esteem.....
Here we have a smart, intelligent, talented, beautiful woman who could prob have any man she wanted with the snap of her finger ...
who'd of ever guessed under that beauty and brains was a woman with such self-esteem problems.
I mean, from the surface, it looked like she had it all!
Guess that goes to show ya....Don't judge a book by it's cover. My Grandma was right.

I have to admit Amity.........I too have thought of all the things you have stated in your post.

And for some reason I don't think Debbie wanted to testify against Blu. I think she was still in love with him and that is why she kept coming to see him. Some women... especially if they think their abuser will change.. will forgive them. I think she had forgiven Blu before she went missing.


imo

oceanblueeyes
12-22-2010, 09:55 PM
Just heard on JVM: Deborah had three P. O.'s taken out against her from three different men! Huh?....Seems she may have had a difficult time letting go-also.

This is getting stranger and stranger!

My goodness..........I missed that.

I wonder if Debbie was very obessive and extremely jealous when it came to men.

IMO

sherryk
12-22-2010, 10:00 PM
I am not sure that this has been touched on tonight after the VLM interview with the friend of DF, Marillez Mozon seems to have the same mindset as Celeste.

They are not doing any favors but evading the important questions as to what is really going on in DF life, if they know anything. They are very evasive in answering any questions.. the only think they are stating is "I dont know much" I heard her in a converstation where she was "naturally" wanting to "patch" things up... when a question is presented to them as to any indecressions or human error on the part of DF .. it seems they are on automatic defense.. it is not doing any good to go on television to help find DF, yet defending her as a person, evading the things that possibly could lead to some answers. The comment on she has over come alot... from Ms. Mozon stated.. however she needs to elaborate on those things she has overcome.. it would help with leads.. insted they that know her are H*** bent on defending the Las Vegas lifestyle, the people there and DF.

The family and friends seem to think this is an attack on Debbie it is not it is called trying to get to the bottom of what leads to go on. Jane Valez-Mitchell seemed to be getting a little annoyed at the answers of only she is a good person, people of las vegas are good people... come on .. yes she was a good person, she may have been troubled, Las Vegas.. good and bad people.. it is apparent on the crime staticts on Sin City.. Las Vegas is known for shady dealings, drugs, mobsters, organized crime, drugs.. so are many other cities... that doesnt mean that she is not a victem.. it means that perhaps she got in over her head in emotions, people and lifestyle.. that doesnt change the fact she is a victem.... however the more these girls get on interview and seem to be so defensive it acually is making me think.. what in the world are they hiding about her..

they need to get some one on one conversation with JVM and other interviews and let them know that being defensive and looks to be hiding DF lifestyle is not doing her any favors as far as finding who did this. They seem to bring more suspision on her as what they seem to be hiding or not wanting to reveal.. it will all come out.. better to know the entire story so this doesnt turn into new things revealed on the actions of DF that is and will cloud investigation....

helping with investigation should be helping.. if these girls want their 15 minutes on tv they need to be prepared to tell the things they know... dont worry she is still a victem and just because restraining orders, isses with boyfriend.. that doesnt make her a bad person... it still makes her missing and possibly dead..

are these girls defending "their" lifestyle or "DF"??
I am a little bothered by their take on what is important and what is not...
they seems to be a littel.. forgive me on this statement.. but a little flakey and caught up in the whole Vegas lifestyle.. what in the world is it that they are hiding that they are so scared it will make her look bad.. do they think it is a reflection on them or perhaps the community they associate with.. if so then they should decline interviews.. are they really helping.. i dont think so....

Nancy2441
12-22-2010, 10:13 PM
A lot of women like the bad boy type. The consequences can be dire as most of us have seen time and time again. I look at the ex-boyfriend and think why was she with this POS? Here she was...a beautiful, talented, intelligent woman who I am sure could of found a much better mate than this guy. She was a college graduate and he is a wanna be thug, wanna be rapper. WTH?

Abusive relationships are usually learned behaviors. If you grew up in a addicted or violent home or your parents had a very volatile relationship where there was infidelity and abuse than that is what is familiar to you. People gravitate always to what is familiar to them, to what they know. Abusive relationships cross all socioeconomic lines, and we see that, too. So it doesn't matter how beautiful, talented, or intelligent people are...It's all about how you feel about yourself. If you feel deep down you are undeserving of a good man and don't treat yourself respectfully, well you attract what you are. I speak from experience I was in two abusive marriages. Proud to say I have been free of abusers for 17 years. I know when I was in those relationships I knew how to bait my ex's and I knew how to push their buttons and really p*ss them off. It's sick yes. But abusive couples don't know how to relate normally.

When I read Debbie's MS page and she described the type of man she was looking for it sure didn't sound like JG. There was a definite disconnect between what she said she wanted and him... that's for sure.

Willow57
12-22-2010, 10:25 PM
I have noticed with her sister and her friends that they seem to be trying very hard to protect Debbie's image. I feel so sorry for them-but-I wish they knew that you can be imperfect-as we all are-and still be a victim.

The truth has to come out-however it may fall-in order for LE to know where and whom to look at.

I wish them Strength!

Fairy1
12-22-2010, 10:48 PM
I can't really blame the family or friends for doing what they can to protect Debbie's image publicly - for two reasons.

1. If there is a chance Debbie is still alive and hiding out somewhere, it will be very difficult for her to return after all the not-so-pretty details of her life are splashed all over the news.

2. They don't want her to be branded in a negative way while she's missing. Sadly, people tend to lose interest in missing persons whose lifestyles are not perfect. I'm sure Debbie's family is trying to avoid any stereotyping. It's bad enough she's been labeled a "dancer" from Vegas. People's perceptions of that description are probably not very positive.

Bottom line is, a young woman is missing and under questionable circumstances. If she has been harmed, she is a victim. Regardless of her life choices or lifestyle.

Peliman
12-22-2010, 10:49 PM
Police search home of missing Las Vegas dancer's ex-boyfriend

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) – Action News has learned that police have searched the home of Jason Griffith, the ex-boyfriend of missing Las Vegas dancer Debbie Flores-Narvaez.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13730972/police-search-home-of-missing-las-vegas-dancers-ex-boyfriend

SusanB
12-23-2010, 12:28 AM
Do we have any information about the alleged three PFA's against Debbie? What were the situations?

sherryk
12-23-2010, 12:42 AM
I can't really blame the family or friends for doing what they can to protect Debbie's image publicly - for two reasons.

1. If there is a chance Debbie is still alive and hiding out somewhere, it will be very difficult for her to return after all the not-so-pretty details of her life are splashed all over the news.

2. They don't want her to be branded in a negative way while she's missing. Sadly, people tend to lose interest in missing persons whose lifestyles are not perfect. I'm sure Debbie's family is trying to avoid any stereotyping. It's bad enough she's been labeled a "dancer" from Vegas. People's perceptions of that description are probably not very positive.

Bottom line is, a young woman is missing and under questionable circumstances. If she has been harmed, she is a victim. Regardless of her life choices or lifestyle.



Yes she is a victem no matter what. That is what I was trying to get across. There is not one perfect person in the world. Being that she is a showgirl..there is nothing wrong with that. The past she may have no matter what it is.. the little things will come out.. I think it is better for the family to address it and put it in it's place when brought up.. it isnt a big deal on oder of protection, her occupation, her boyfriend choices, if she still loved him. I think the family is making it an issue in defense of it and calling attention to it for the fact that it still leaves unanswered questions in mindset and things that very well help find her. I would rather have a responce somthing like that at least acknowledges it and not just automatically say she is a good person....
WE KNOW SHE IS A GOOD PERSON.. living a dream she wanted.. so what on order of protection.. she doesnt have a criminal past that we know.. I just with the family would BELIEVE in persons who do want her found.

Bottom line is we all have things in past that we may be ashamed of or not want out there in the public.. however if I am ever missing and thought to be foul play or deceased.. please air all my dirty laundry so I can be found at any expence.. if i had a choice to be alive and a few tarnishes on my name.. VS being dead and remembered for a kind person with no faults... I will take being a little tarnished and alive anyday !

Peliman
12-23-2010, 12:49 AM
Two page story from ABC, 2nd page has some info.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-continue-search-missing-las-vegas-dancer-debbie/story?id=12454481&page=1

SusanB
12-23-2010, 01:20 AM
Thanks Peliman, that link helped me understand a little some of the "dirty laundry" of Debbie's life. It seems that she was in financial trouble. Also that she apparently has issues with temper, jealousy, or something affecting her relationships.

Blondie in Spokane
12-23-2010, 07:59 AM
I wasn't aware that Debbie rear-ended Blu's car during the Oct. 22nd argument. (Not sure whether it was an accident or intentional.)

http://www.examiner.com/criminal-profiles-in-national/las-vegas-dancer-debbie-flores-narvaez-provoked-ex-more-to-the-story-profile

fullofsecrets
12-23-2010, 12:14 PM
Thanks, Willow, I think we all feel that way for her and her family. I wonder what the financial situation was like between Debbie and her ex...could there have been some entanglement there? Could she have turned to a club owner or someone more nefarious for money? If she did indeed complete that much school, I'm sure she has student loans as well. Perhaps the money angle bears more heavily on this case than we thought before...? JMO.

Willow57
12-23-2010, 12:30 PM
I agree that no one should judge anyone involved in this case in a negative manner at the moment and that includes Debbie or her "X". Because right now no one knows what may have happened. If Deborah is a victim(and I think she may be) she certainly should not be blamed for being a victim.

But I still do think that what is the truth is the truth and sometimes when the families try to hide things they think are negative toward the person missing-it just makes it seem that they are 'trying to hide something' and it makes some people suspicious. Instead of people wasting time trying to figure out what the family is trying to hide-that time can be better spent.

To me it is important for LE to know that Debbie and the "X" had a history of violence between them-to me it is also important to know that Debbie has had four P.O.'s taken out against her(three granted) from different men.To me it is important for LE to know everything-clean or dirty because you never know where it might lead.

When you go to the media for their help in situations like this-in this day and age-you must know to some extent that they may investigate and start to find out some things that you may not want public-and they are like sharks in the water when they think you are trying to hide something. I just hope they find this lady, safe and sound. This is the holidays and the family is having to go through this. If this doesn't turn out well-the holidays will never be the same for them. So sad!

cluciano63
12-23-2010, 01:35 PM
I do feel for the family, but it might be better if they did not comment at all, rather than come off as defensive and possibly evasive. It does make people wonder what they are hiding, rather than wondering where she is and what happened to her.

PS-Why does it seem that only Portland is hesitant to use the "POI" phrase...

Peliman
12-23-2010, 02:02 PM
I'm one who hopes this lady is ok and hiding out somewhere. I think her sister cares about her and is learning about things she may have never known before. So I'm thinking somewhere in here Debbie hit the wall financially and maybe even hiding out from creditors and licking her wounds from "Blu."

Either that or she's met foul play but we have no indication of that yet but I do have that suspicion.

So this could go one of two ways and I hope if she's listening she goes and speaks to an attorney. While it may seem like a mountain to her, it's really only a mole hill in life and she should contact her family,they care about her and are more than willing to help.

Blue Eyed Chick
12-23-2010, 02:18 PM
Perhaps she owed a lot of money to the wrong type of people.

Amity
12-23-2010, 03:53 PM
Associated Press - December 23, 2010 1:25 PM ET

LAS VEGAS (AP) - The older sister of a missing Las Vegas dancer says she'll stay in Las Vegas until her sister is found.

Celeste Flores-Narvaez tells The Associated Press she'll keep up the search even if it means missing Christmas with her two children in Atlanta.

NOT much More Here:
http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=13733976


In Fact, not much more anywhere. LE knows something or have a good idea what's happened and just aren't saying in public?

Amity
12-23-2010, 04:09 PM
I'm one who hopes this lady is ok and hiding out somewhere. I think her sister cares about her and is learning about things she may have never known before.


respectfully snipped for space and BBM

This is what I think too.
Now that so much more information is out there, I think there were two Debbies. Not in the psychiatric sense (although nobody would know for sure at this point) but in the sense that she showed her family one side of her....the graduate with Two degrees, the almost famous dancer on stage in Vegas, the talented, artistic, beauty (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGdSNEuBNNECgB5VRXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3NnQxcXY 0BHNlYwNvdi10b3AEY29sbwNzazEEdnRpZANRSTAwN183MgRwb 3MDMQ--/SIG=1i026pb59/EXP=1293224388/**http%3a//415440.r.msn.com/%3fld=4vForOB1cdo8eWvrcHzIHXiqBf4QUkOHSWJHz71UANc7 kWl46uG1IQuli6vE_9y0reCdgpN8WTZhypYZORaQXHrhEwKpek HFwHg2SzfCNG9AJI9LfpBiESWxQQFGmYq4qIXqJpROwvZjAwxv f6vEJV0x5GXc87iCEDGhV2CaFownRKv2ySy45i1KPeMMe_FxOI KRFHJaeIWSQINxIhfhuc948MnUhl_cHPjw-JFtRQJHWCxqlVvWNKLaI9S7EPnT9AMQb-JlFU_RRDydaTvtiPCMWXWGA8SfUtgusnnfjEgMN3izliK_5_KV s8XFQV9-jKtS8IX00yXmHgaUu1y6jEz8tJUT9bpfh1azylrCx-5HZIapgT_R3tkrNKfe2l98w-QMHROLGBMVgtd-cXuEypHdZcx9dBiiMW8jLRrsoT0VKkEFjm2k_CFnMRzdd_CVlL NVQJTNqmDFtg74prXu__HH27PAsQJmNzPaL8mu7AUyx6SdE9ib D2bnfIwtZi-cY3wYB4Xx5iZ9wb)with brains who 'followed her dream to become a dancer'.

Then there is that 'other' side......
Emotionally stunted maybe? At least when it comes to rejection.
Heavy Debt including liens.
Anger issues that end up involving the law.
Didn't actually graduate from law school - quit after a year.
Has already established a pattern of involving herself in 'dramatic/physical violent' relationships.
Possibly Pregnant.

And who knows what else/what other information that hasn't surfaced yet.

I bet ya dimes to noduts that her family had No clue about the other Debbie.

Maybe all they knew was what she told them.....the stage, the headlines, the stars she meets, the 'famous' world she was living in with all the perks that come with it.

If this is the case, not only are her parents/family devastated over her missing, but imagine how they are feeling now that they know, what I'm thinking, is just the tip of the iceburg about Debbie's real life.
OMG, the heartbreak must be tripled for this family and I feel so badly for all involved.

hollyblue
12-23-2010, 04:30 PM
.......I agree completely with this paragraph. Mainly for 2 reasons-she had just landed her dream job as a solo performer in "Fantasy" and the fact that her sister stated that she would not answer the question as to how she was no longer pregnant. Whatever the situation was with her pregnacy I hope she is found safe and soon.

Does anyone find it odd that an intelligent woman who had a job where her body is vital in keeping it was pregnant? Birthcontrol? This doesn't make sense. Why no birthcontrol???

olllllo
12-23-2010, 05:31 PM
I wonder if this is related...

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26260720/detail.html


POSTED: 1:39 pm PST December 23, 2010
UPDATED: 2:22 pm PST December 23, 2010
LAS VEGAS -- The burned body of a woman was found on Thursday on the Arizona side of Lake Mead, a source told FOX5.

Las Vegas Metro police homicide detectives were requested at the scene, a Metro official said.

The source could not speculate as to the identity of the woman or the official cause of death, which will be determined by the Clark County Coroner's Office.

oceanblueeyes
12-23-2010, 06:46 PM
I wonder if this is related...

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26260720/detail.html

It certainly may be.

IMO

oceanblueeyes
12-23-2010, 06:52 PM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/debbie-flores-narvaez-update-burned-body-of-woman-found-las-vegas

The burned body of a woman was found on Thursday at Lake Mead in Las Vegas, a source told a local news outlet. It remains unknown whether the woman could be missing showgirl Debbie Flores-Narvaez, 31.

Amity
12-23-2010, 07:05 PM
I wonder if this is related...

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26260720/detail.html

From Link Above:
Las Vegas Metro police said homicide detectives were requested at the scene.

A source said the body appeared to have been burned, although authorities would not speculate as to the cause of death, which will be determined by the Clark County Coroner’s Office.

So if it's on the Az. side, why were Las Vegas Police requested at the scene.
I hope and pray this isn't Debbie....what a tragic end.
A tragic end for whoever it is and for their family.

But I'm thinking there must be some tell-tale signs left on the burned remains for Az. side to contact and request LV LE.
Also, if it's Az. side, why would Clark County Coroner be involved?

sherryk
12-23-2010, 07:17 PM
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26260720/detail.html

I was looking on maps for the distance between Lake Mead and Las Vegas. The state park site states that Lake Mead is 30 minutes away from Las Vegas. It looks to be on the map that highway 93 would be a common route and the ramp for highway 93 is very close to North Las Vegas where the car was found.

Is anyone from the area that is familiar with Lake Mead and specifically the Kingman Wash portion? Kingman Wash looks to be right off of highway 93 and looks to isolated.

Amity
12-23-2010, 07:21 PM
Las Vegas police say the call came in at about 11:30 a.m. Officers say two tourists found the burned body along the side of a the dirt road.
Metro says homicide detectives are working with the Mojave County Sheriff's Office and the National Park Service to investigate the finding.
The body has been found on federal land and police are working out the jurisdictional issues surrounding the investigation.

More Here:
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13735242/womans-body-found-at-lake-mead

Amity
12-23-2010, 07:30 PM
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/26260720/detail.html

I was looking on maps for the distance between Lake Mead and Las Vegas. The state park site states that Lake Mead is 30 minutes away from Las Vegas. It looks to be on the map that highway 93 would be a common route and the ramp for highway 93 is very close to North Las Vegas where the car was found.

Is anyone from the area that is familiar with Lake Mead and specifically the Kingman Wash portion? Kingman Wash looks to be right off of highway 93 and looks to isolated.


Even though my parents no longer live in LV, I still visit frequently.
I travel between LV, Laughlin, Lake Havasu and Kingman but I'm not familiar with the lakes/washes/etc.

I too was looking around for a map and found this.
Doesn't help me get my directions figured out because I get lost in my own back yard but maybe it will help others.

http://www.mynews3.com/story.php?id=34534&n=5035

swjaxon
12-23-2010, 07:33 PM
Here is where it is. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kingman+Wash,+Arizona&sll=35.985229,-114.718895&sspn=0.086953,0.134754&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kingman+Wash&ll=36.016476,-114.711685&spn=0.043459,0.067377&t=h&z=14)

If you zoom in, you can see the dirt road leaving 93 and heading northeast.

Fairy1
12-23-2010, 07:36 PM
Here is where it is. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kingman+Wash,+Arizona&sll=35.985229,-114.718895&sspn=0.086953,0.134754&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kingman+Wash&ll=36.016476,-114.711685&spn=0.043459,0.067377&t=h&z=14)

If you zoom in, you can see the dirt road leaving 93 and heading northeast.

Hey swjaxon - great to "see" you!

Some of the reports I'm seeing almost make it sound as if LE may already know the identity.

I'm praying this is not Debbie. :(

swjaxon
12-23-2010, 07:40 PM
Hey swjaxon - great to "see" you!

Some of the reports I'm seeing almost make it sound as if LE may already knows the identity.

I'm praying this is not Debbie. :(

Great to see you too!

Amity
12-23-2010, 07:44 PM
Fairy1,
It does seem that way.
Why else would LV LE be contacted.
I said a bit earlier that maybe there is something left of the remains that indicate who she is and gave Az. side that first clue of her identity?
If they can tell she's a woman, she must not be burned too badly....at least not beyond recognition.


Az. side is picking it up now:

This is from MyFox Phoenix

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/news/burned-female-body-found-southeast-of-las-vegas-dpgonc-20101223-gc_11197859

swjaxon
12-23-2010, 07:47 PM
Fairy1,
It does seem that way.
Why else would LV LE be contacted.

They get contacted all the time when crimes happen at the lake, simply because the federal folks and Mohave County have very few resources.

Fairy1
12-23-2010, 07:53 PM
Fairy1,
It does seem that way.
Why else would LV LE be contacted.
I said a bit earlier that maybe there is something left of the remains that indicate who she is and gave Az. side that first clue of her identity?
If they can tell she's a woman, she must not be burned too badly....at least not beyond recognition.


Az. side is picking it up now:

This is from MyFox Phoenix

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/news/burned-female-body-found-southeast-of-las-vegas-dpgonc-20101223-gc_11197859

You may be right. But IIRC, LV Metro was also called in after a jawbone was found out there a few months ago - also on the AZ side.

Amity
12-23-2010, 08:06 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k137/Lady_Amity/26a43097.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k137/Lady_Amity/18a0ab87.jpg

Amity
12-23-2010, 08:08 PM
You may be right. But IIRC, LV Metro was also called in after a jawbone was found out there a few months ago - also on the AZ side.

Dang.... I get the Havasu news and didn't hear a thing about that!
Think I better go subscribe to Az. and LV
Thanks for that info....appreciate it!

Fairy1
12-23-2010, 08:13 PM
Dang.... I get the Havasu news and didn't hear a thing about that!
Think I better go subscribe to Az. and LV
Thanks for that info....appreciate it!

Let me know if you find out anything - never heard another peep about it after they sent the dive team out there!

Amity
12-23-2010, 08:29 PM
Fairy1,
You really got my curiosity up so I did a quick search.
Hard to find info without it being about Natalee Holloway.
Ended up having to do a -Holloway and -Aruba .

Did find these older articles but no updates. But I'm going to keep searching.
(like I really need more things to keep me at this computer. :) )
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13452461/breaking-news-jawbone-found-in-lake-mead

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13452849/human-jawbone-found-at-lake-mead?redirected=true

And here's a page with the original jawbone story you mentioned but then towards the bottom they have updated tweets coming in.
All of the tweets so far are about the burned body that was found earlier today.
http://travel.kosmix.com/topic/Kingman_Wash,_Lake_Mead

Reannan
12-23-2010, 08:58 PM
I have a feeling this body found close to Lake Meade is going to be significant to this case.

everyoneneedsavoice
12-24-2010, 12:20 AM
More info / articles...re: the unidentified body found at Lake Mead

snipped>>

Officer Jay Rivera said he could not speculate on the possibility of the body being that of missing Luxor dancer Debbie Flores-Narvaez.

"We can't rule it out," Rivera said. "Until the coroner does a positive identification, we have no idea who the individual is."

Metro Police, rangers at Lake Mead and the Mojave County Police in Arizona are investigating the finding, Turner said. Rivera said Thursday afternoon that Metro Police's homicide detectives were going to the recreation area to investigate.

http://dailyme.com/story/2010122300005027/brief-park-officials-female-body-found.html

snipped>>
No identity has been determined, but investigators speculate the body might be that of missing Las Vegas dancer, Debbie Flores Narvaez.

http://www.kvor.com/rssItem.asp?feedid=118&itemid=29613190


my comments...doesn't sound good for DFN at all. Prayers for the family / friends of whomever this young lady was / is...how horrible for DFN's family.

Blue Eyed Chick
12-24-2010, 12:33 AM
Oh no. :(

mrsu
12-24-2010, 12:35 AM
I wonder if they wanted to search BG's home before/after the body was found? Might they be looking for something in particular??

gypsyblue
12-24-2010, 12:46 AM
lake mead is straight out from ghetto north east lv..... although ive read two diff reports of where her car was found.....

gee another body found at lake mead....imagine that...pfffft number one dumping ground in vegas....jmo

AsoldiersGrits
12-24-2010, 12:52 AM
I'm praying this is not Debbie. :(

Even if it's not Debbie, it is someone..someones loved one

SusanB
12-24-2010, 01:00 AM
Wow, this does not look good. My gut feeling is that it is her. Is JG a formal POI yet?

Kimster
12-24-2010, 01:05 AM
There isn't a direct scanner feed online there either. :(

Nancy2441
12-24-2010, 01:08 AM
I was traveling today...just read this news tonight. I have a very bad feeling that this is her. I feel so sad that another young woman has lost her life due to an abuser. The timing is terrible. Christmas will never be the same for the family and friends.

Kimster
12-24-2010, 01:09 AM
I was traveling today...just read this news tonight. I have a very bad feeling that this is her. I feel so sad that another young woman has lost her life due to an abuser. The timing is terrible. Christmas will never be the same for the family and friends.

I know it. :( I highly doubt the media would report that LE thinks it is her if it isn't. I've never seen them do that before - ever.

SusanB
12-24-2010, 01:22 AM
From the reports I am reading they are linking the finding of this body to the Debbie Flores story. Even LE are doing this so I get the feeling they believe it is her. Usually LE is quite reluctant to associate any body found to a crime story this quickly:waitasec:

gypsyblue
12-24-2010, 01:37 AM
Police are also looking into the other relationships that have gone sour, however. One was with another professional dancer, Jamile McGee. McGee was never prosecuted by law enforcement, according to court records.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/lake-mead-visitors-find-body-near-kingman-wash-112402284.html