View Full Version : TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #5
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 04:46 PM
I have never seen a high profile missing child case like this NOT have a press conference...
Someone needs to pass them the playbook. Why is the onus on Nancy Grace? This should be coming from the mouth of said horse.
MOO
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 04:50 PM
I would think LE would want to control the story, rather than wait until NG gets her hands back on it tonight, especially if they already feel she has sensationalized parts of it, or whatever the wording of the city mgr. was. She will be all about the LD tests.
40G!GZ7
01-06-2011, 04:55 PM
Okay...it's been a while since my last post, but here goes.....
Kampher is not a PR guru nor LE, he's just the City Manager.
LE has not come forth to the public with anything other than Chief B's statement.
The community has stepped up and done searches with nothing to go on, nothing to look for, no specified location to search. One search party even followed the supposed dog tracking trail...which apparently doesn't even exist.
I refuse to speculate on grounds that I am not LE. Again...as most of you know....this town has been shaken like never before.
Patty G
01-06-2011, 04:55 PM
Posted January 6, 2011 - 2:59pm CST
Looks like the media wants everyone to know that SA is Not Missing according to family friends.
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/search-dunn-intensifies-helicopter-search
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 04:55 PM
I totally agree, but you know, in the cases Natalee Holloway, Morgan Harrington, etc., rewards have not helped solve the horrible crimes.
Yes, I know and I agree - IMO, it's not the reward amount at all - it's the fact that I devote time, energy and a lot of begging, into being able to distribute flyers to co-workers.
:rant: (and not directed at you at all...just using your post to finish my rant)!
I work for a HUGE fortune 500 and I have to go through a "communication approval & distribution" process just to be able to send things like this to employees and/or display them in our office locations---each time they change.
In this case, I have 413 co-workers in West Texas alone, thus the reason I wanted to get these flyers out to those specific areas.
I totally get the insanity associated with having to reward people to do the right thing---because to me it's about as insane as me having to get 3 levels of "legal" approval to be able to distribute them---but I also understand my company wanting to protect their "assets" thus the reason for the process.
It's just all so frustrating...
(and I know you didn't ask any of these questions...i'm just venting):innocent:
LadyLuck
01-06-2011, 05:00 PM
They just talked about Hailey on CNN- They showed her poster and talked about why the amber alert was not issued. The mentioned that Nancy Grace was "all over this case" on HLN. Maybe she will get a lot more coverage now.
FIND HAILEY
krista
01-06-2011, 05:01 PM
Okay...it's been a while since my last post, but here goes.....
Kampher is not a PR guru nor LE, he's just the City Manager.
LE has not come forth to the public with anything other than Chief B's statement.
The community has stepped up and done searches with nothing to go on, nothing to look for, no specified location to search. One search party even followed the supposed dog tracking trail...which apparently doesn't even exist.
I refuse to speculate on grounds that I am not LE. Again...as most of you know....this town has been shaken like never before.
It was said in another thread **I think** that Kampher is the interim City Manager. I can't remember if it was the city manager or the Chief of Police, but ONE of them was only temporary and would have never expected nor prepared himself to deal with this type of situation. Can you confirm this? Thanks!
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 05:02 PM
Okay...it's been a while since my last post, but here goes.....
Kampher is not a PR guru nor LE, he's just the City Manager.
LE has not come forth to the public with anything other than Chief B's statement.
The community has stepped up and done searches with nothing to go on, nothing to look for, no specified location to search. One search party even followed the supposed dog tracking trail...which apparently doesn't even exist.
I refuse to speculate on grounds that I am not LE. Again...as most of you know....this town has been shaken like never before.
Please understand I have nothing but the UP MOST respect for your tight knit community. The community has stepped up and has went above and beyond, without their help and persistence this case would STILL be called a case of a teenage runaway.
IMO The community DESREVES updates directly from LE. You've all earned it. I understand they would like to keep some things under wraps, but they can still keep your community somewhat informed!
burbqueen
01-06-2011, 05:02 PM
I see lots of guest out there. Come on! Sign up! let's hear from you...
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 05:08 PM
Holy crap!!! :banghead:
Talk about completely missing the facts! This makes the other guy look good.... oh my.
Fox News said:
Hailey disappeared after spending the night at a friends house on December 28th. FALSE.
She never came home from the friend's house. FALSE
HER boyfriend Shawn Adkins has now been given a polygraph because he was the last to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. - FALSE - he's not her boyfriend, he's her Mom's boyfriend.
Officials are saying at age 13 it "makes it very difficult to know if she walked away, ran away or was taken." FALSE - they are finally saying there might be foul play.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
There is no excuse for that. I'm sorry but simple googling in 30 seconds could have told them all of those were complete CRAP.
For the record, the only thing above that IS true is that Shawn was given a polygraph because he was the last one to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. He is her MOM's boyfriend, not hers.
Unbelievable that people cannot take the 5 minutes to check their facts when they are reporting about something like a missing CHILD. :banghead:
kantoo
01-06-2011, 05:08 PM
It was said in another thread **I think** that Kampher is the interim City Manager. I can't remember if it was the city manager or the Chief of Police, but ONE of them was only temporary and would have never expected nor prepared himself to deal with this type of situation. Can you confirm this? Thanks!
the chief is interim...
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 05:09 PM
It was said in another thread **I think** that Kampher is the interim City Manager. I can't remember if it was the city manager or the Chief of Police, but ONE of them was only temporary and would have never expected nor prepared himself to deal with this type of situation. Can you confirm this? Thanks!
It was the Police Chief.
Wise Old Owl
01-06-2011, 05:10 PM
Here's a thought:
I have great respect for small towns/communities. IF any agency (local PD, Tex. Rang., FBI) believed for one minute that this was a "stranger abduction" they would have warned the community by now. Since we have not heard word one about a "stranger" or watch your kids or this could be an abduction - IMO I think that shows they have a real good handle on all this and pretty much know what happened.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:13 PM
Holy crap!!! :banghead:
Talk about completely missing the facts! This makes the other guy look good.... oh my.
Fox News said:
Hailey disappeared after spending the night at a friends house on December 28th. FALSE.
She never came home from the friend's house. FALSE
HER boyfriend Shawn Adkins has now been given a polygraph because he was the last to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. - FALSE - he's not her boyfriend, he's her Mom's boyfriend.
Officials are saying at age 13 it "makes it very difficult to know if she walked away, ran away or was taken." FALSE - they are finally saying there might be foul play.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
There is no excuse for that. I'm sorry but simple googling in 30 seconds could have told them all of those were complete CRAP.
For the record, the only thing above that IS true is that Shawn was given a polygraph because he was the last one to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. He is her MOM's boyfriend, not hers.
Unbelievable that people cannot take the 5 minutes to check their facts when they are reporting about something like a missing CHILD. :banghead:
That's not what I get at that link? :waitasec:
Patty G
01-06-2011, 05:14 PM
Ugh. This is heartbreaking. Hailey's dad doesn't have internet access or a FB account. He is posting on his mother's account, trying to get Hailey to call/come home. I am so devastated for this family.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251345847&v=wall
I can't read any of the father's comments when I click on the above link. :(
ETA: I can read them NOW!
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 05:14 PM
Here's a thought:
I have great respect for small towns/communities. IF any agency (local PD, Tex. Rang., FBI) believed for one minute that this was a "stranger abduction" they would have warned the community by now. Since we have not heard word one about a "stranger" or watch your kids or this could be an abduction - IMO I think that shows they have a real good handle on all this and pretty much know what happened.
or THINK they do.
If I lived there, my children wouldn't be walking anywhere
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:15 PM
Okay...it's been a while since my last post, but here goes.....
Kampher is not a PR guru nor LE, he's just the City Manager.
LE has not come forth to the public with anything other than Chief B's statement.
The community has stepped up and done searches with nothing to go on, nothing to look for, no specified location to search. One search party even followed the supposed dog tracking trail...which apparently doesn't even exist.
I refuse to speculate on grounds that I am not LE. Again...as most of you know....this town has been shaken like never before.
bbm... I know what you are saying... but at the same time I think that the other agencies involved need to take a proactive PR approach ((like in the form of an official Law Enforcement update)) to keep the community and the nation at large informed of what they are doing... what they are able to officially comment on....and where they are at in finding Hailey. I hear and feel your frustration. I have been in a similar boat with my friend who was murdered in my very own small town of one stop light. I was only 12 at the time but this is really the reason I am drawn to cases like this. She was considered a runaway at first as well... and this did not turn out to be the case unfortunately.
If one of the larger agencies on this case were able to take the reigns from the city manager on updates I think it would benefit the case all around...
My thoughts and prayers are with your community.
oviedo
01-06-2011, 05:16 PM
It was said in another thread **I think** that Kampher is the interim City Manager. I can't remember if it was the city manager or the Chief of Police, but ONE of them was only temporary and would have never expected nor prepared himself to deal with this type of situation. Can you confirm this? Thanks!
http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/index.aspx?nid=125
No "interim" is used with his City Manager Title -
Patty G
01-06-2011, 05:16 PM
WOW, this is a first from the media.
Fox News aired a two-minute story (embedded below) on Thursday about Hailey's disappearance, but was fairly innacurate with the facts.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
ETA: The video is below the story.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:19 PM
WOW, this is a first from the media.
Fox News aired a two-minute story (embedded below) on Thursday about Hailey's disappearance, but was fairly innacurate with the facts.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
Is it supposed to be a video because, all I get is the story, I have no video? :waitasec:
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:19 PM
Thursday, 4:00 p.m. Update:
KTAB's Marc Gustafson reports DPS troopers have entered the Dunn home. It's unclear what they're doing at the home.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
brownies
01-06-2011, 05:20 PM
ME too!
Walker007
01-06-2011, 05:20 PM
Okay...it's been a while since my last post, but here goes.....
Kampher is not a PR guru nor LE, he's just the City Manager.
LE has not come forth to the public with anything other than Chief B's statement.
The community has stepped up and done searches with nothing to go on, nothing to look for, no specified location to search. One search party even followed the supposed dog tracking trail...which apparently doesn't even exist.
I refuse to speculate on grounds that I am not LE. Again...as most of you know....this town has been shaken like never before.
I can't imagine being on the ground in such a devastating frustrating situation. I see your point on the defense of the city manager. Not all towns have full capacity to be thrust into such an intense investigation.
Being that you live in the area. I could suggest to you to pass on information for the CUE center for missing person's. I watch their work carefully as I am a huge fan of their organization and all they do for the families of the missing. They are an advocate to the family along with (my opinion) Monica Caison is one of the best K-9 handlers I have seen. She has a very large network through the entire country of SAR dogs and his known mostly for her work on Cold Cases and she has solved 100's in the last 17 years if not more. She works around the clock on campaigns to bring home the missing. The latest campaign is in my signature. The organization works in conjunction with Law Enforcement. All that is needed is for a family member to fill out the advocacy forms. CUE is 100 percent non-for-profit and Monica has never taken a salary in 17 years. High commendable in my book and so rare in this day and age. You can do a google search and learn more. The website is www.ncmissingpersons.org - Just a suggestion for the moment in time. Once community interest is not at a peak, it takes going backward to regenerate if a conclusion has not been made in the future.
I am very interested to hear more about this missing dog scent and how it does not exist? I guess I need to get reading backwards on this thread and I am coming in on the last page. Blessings to all your community has done to look for this little girl.
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 05:20 PM
Thursday, 4:00 p.m. Update:
KTAB's Marc Gustafson reports DPS troopers have entered the Dunn home. It's unclear what they're doing at the home.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
brownies
01-06-2011, 05:20 PM
^^^ in reference to seeing Tim miller get involved^^^^
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 05:20 PM
Is it supposed to be a video because, all I get is the story, I have no video? :waitasec:
I got a video--had to scroll to bottom of page.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:21 PM
Thursday, 4:00 p.m. Update:
KTAB's Marc Gustafson reports DPS troopers have entered the Dunn home. It's unclear what they're doing at the home.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
hmmm......
trigger
01-06-2011, 05:21 PM
I have never seen a high profile missing child case like this NOT have a press conference...
Someone needs to pass them the playbook. Why is the onus on Nancy Grace? This should be coming from the mouth of said horse.
MOO
Your are totally correct. The town must be on edge. Doesn't make any sense why there is no presser, NONE.
Today all the children went back to school. I cannot imagine how these friends of Hailey's are feeling. So sad.
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:21 PM
they are back for something.
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 05:21 PM
That Fox update is really bad, if it was wrong about so many factors...but Hailey is still missing, SA was the last to see her, and that much is true I guess...it is disheartening, though, when we here count so much on MSM before we talk about anything.
KathrynL
01-06-2011, 05:22 PM
I can't read any of the father's comments when I click on the above link. :(
He's posting under the name of the account owner-was it made private since I looked in? (If it's private you can't see the "wall" with comments)
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 05:22 PM
Thursday, 4:00 p.m. Update:
KTAB's Marc Gustafson reports DPS troopers have entered the Dunn home. It's unclear what they're doing at the home.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
What are DPS troopers? What does DPS stand for?
mechelle69
01-06-2011, 05:22 PM
Holy crap!!! :banghead:
Talk about completely missing the facts! This makes the other guy look good.... oh my.
Fox News said:
Hailey disappeared after spending the night at a friends house on December 28th. FALSE.
She never came home from the friend's house. FALSE
HER boyfriend Shawn Adkins has now been given a polygraph because he was the last to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. - FALSE - he's not her boyfriend, he's her Mom's boyfriend.
Officials are saying at age 13 it "makes it very difficult to know if she walked away, ran away or was taken." FALSE - they are finally saying there might be foul play.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
There is no excuse for that. I'm sorry but simple googling in 30 seconds could have told them all of those were complete CRAP.
For the record, the only thing above that IS true is that Shawn was given a polygraph because he was the last one to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. He is her MOM's boyfriend, not hers.
Unbelievable that people cannot take the 5 minutes to check their facts when they are reporting about something like a missing CHILD. :banghead:
Well, it's FOX so what do you expect?!! :(
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:22 PM
they are back for something.
I hope they are not giving her bad news.
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 05:23 PM
That's not what I get at that link? :waitasec:
The video looked like a picture to me and it's at the BOTTOM of the article, not the top left.
And when I put the link up here it said:
Fox News aired a two-minute story (embedded below) on Thursday about Hailey's disappearance, but was fairly loose with the facts.
I see they have now changed it to inaccurate spelled inaccurately.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 05:23 PM
CBS7News (http://twitter.com/#!/CBS7News) CBS 7
DPS helicopters are overhead conducting aerial search for #HaileyDunn (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23HaileyDunn) in Colorado City.
46 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/CBS7News/status/23130820222918656) Favorite (http://twitter.com/#) Retweet (http://twitter.com/#)
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 05:23 PM
Thursday, 4:00 p.m. Update:
KTAB's Marc Gustafson reports DPS troopers have entered the Dunn home. It's unclear what they're doing at the home.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
Hmm....DPS troopers entering home...why DPS Troopers?
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:23 PM
DPS = Department of Public Safety.
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:23 PM
What are DPS troopers? What does DPS stand for?
department of public service?
they have past been mentioned I think... and I hope i got that right McDraw... if I didn't someone chime in ((they have been involved in searches from the get go))
eta: thanks... safety... see.. my menopause is not as advanced as I thought it was... I can remember two words of a three word phrase!
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 05:24 PM
What are DPS troopers? What does DPS stand for?
Department of Public Safety.
They have the helicopter that has been flying over.
DewSeeker
01-06-2011, 05:24 PM
Holy crap!!! :banghead:
Talk about completely missing the facts! This makes the other guy look good.... oh my.
Fox News said:
Hailey disappeared after spending the night at a friends house on December 28th. FALSE.
She never came home from the friend's house. FALSE
HER boyfriend Shawn Adkins has now been given a polygraph because he was the last to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. - FALSE - he's not her boyfriend, he's her Mom's boyfriend.
Officials are saying at age 13 it "makes it very difficult to know if she walked away, ran away or was taken." FALSE - they are finally saying there might be foul play.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
There is no excuse for that. I'm sorry but simple googling in 30 seconds could have told them all of those were complete CRAP.
For the record, the only thing above that IS true is that Shawn was given a polygraph because he was the last one to see her before her disappearance on December 27th. He is her MOM's boyfriend, not hers.
Unbelievable that people cannot take the 5 minutes to check their facts when they are reporting about something like a missing CHILD. :banghead:
I have very little faith in FOX after their faulty reporting in the Foster case.
Has it been confirmed that SA did take a LDT?
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 05:24 PM
DPS helicopters were up...and now they are entering the home?? :(
Velouria
01-06-2011, 05:25 PM
Hmm....DPS troopers entering home...why DPS Troopers?
Everyone, I'm pretty certain that the Texas Rangers are a division of the DPS, so that could be the connection.
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:25 PM
Hmm....DPS troopers entering home...why DPS Troopers?
they are part of the multi agency task force...
mechelle69
01-06-2011, 05:25 PM
He's posting under the name of the account owner-was it made private since I looked in? (If it's private you can't see the "wall" with comments)
You have to sign in as a user to be able to read the wall. But you do not have to be a friend of the account holder. It is public.
MD MOMMY
01-06-2011, 05:25 PM
I can't read any of the father's comments when I click on the above link. :(
He is posting under initials CJ scroll down.
JamaicanMeFrooti
01-06-2011, 05:25 PM
Forgive me if this has been answered as I am not caught up yet today, but have read 5 pages since it was asked a few times.... the uncle that did take LD was Clints brother IIRC
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:27 PM
Everyone, I'm pretty certain that the Texas Rangers are a division of the DPS, so that could be the connection.
thank you yes they are! so the rangers are back at the home!
The Texas Ranger Division is a major division within the Texas Department of Public Safety with lead criminal investigative responsibilityhttp://www.txdps.state.tx.us/TexasRangers/
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 05:27 PM
I got a video--had to scroll to bottom of page.
I just clicked on the blue highlighted FOXNEWS
wildmala
01-06-2011, 05:28 PM
I'm seeing rumblings on FB about Hailey but haven't seen any confirmation and am not about to start a rumor. PRAYING FOR HAILEY!!!!
oviedo
01-06-2011, 05:29 PM
Kampfer, a former FBI agent himself, said he could not confirm any rumors swirling about who has or has not passed polygraph tests related to the disappearance. Different family members have made various unconfirmed and conflicting assertions about polygraph tests taken and their results.
http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26391662/detail.html
That's scary. (The bolded bit.)
thank you for finding that. evidently, topix has a busy comment section regarding this city manager
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/TDGHO6S8U8EN15REM
trigger
01-06-2011, 05:29 PM
I hope they are not giving her bad news.
OMG I didn't think of that. :praying:
Patty G
01-06-2011, 05:30 PM
He is posting under initials CJ scroll down.
I don't see the comments from anyone.
UPDATE: I may have had aan issue with loading the page as I didn't see the comments BUT now I do. Thank you.
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 05:30 PM
I wish I was more hopeful that a national show would make the difference in getting Hailey home safe, but am having such bad feelings about this case and don't think the outcome will be anything but local...:(
IMO it is the national coverage that has helped to call attention in a very big way to the ...problems...with the local PD. They can CYA all they want, but as long as CCPD did not have national media looking over their shoulders Hailey case was already sitting on a shelf labeled RUNAWAY.
CCPD apparently decided they had done all they could without even using such basic tools as cell phone records and thorough forensic searches of the home and vehicles. They could have done a better job looking up instructions on the internet if they didn't know what else to do!
Every bit My Opinion Only.:innocent:
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:31 PM
ohhhhh...
sigh....
this is going down a road I have seen traveled over and over and I am not liking it.
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 05:31 PM
Rumblings on which FB, not seeing anything new?
raeann
01-06-2011, 05:31 PM
I can't read any of the father's comments when I click on the above link. :(
He is posting under the Grandma's name....which is the name on that facebook page.
DewSeeker
01-06-2011, 05:31 PM
I'm seeing rumblings on FB about Hailey but haven't seen any confirmation and am not about to start a rumor. PRAYING FOR HAILEY!!!!
Can you link?
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 05:32 PM
That Fox update is really bad, if it was wrong about so many factors...but Hailey is still missing, SA was the last to see her, and that much is true I guess...it is disheartening, though, when we here count so much on MSM before we talk about anything.
The one thing that really bothered me was reporting that it was HER boyfriend that was the last to see her. Not her Mom's. Because that totally changes it for so many people.
When they hear MOM's boyfriend was the last to see her, they assume foul play.
When they hear HER boyfriend was the last to see her they assume she ran away with him. Unless they look into it further, which most do not.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:32 PM
Can someone link the facebook where the "rumblings' are?
kantoo
01-06-2011, 05:34 PM
thank you yes they are! so the rangers are back at the home!
State Troopers(DPS) drive the black and white cars and give you speeding tickets. They also are used for investigations.
Texas Rangers are investigative only (and considered somewhat elite in Texas)
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:36 PM
State Troopers(DPS) drive the black and white cars and give you speeding tickets. They also are used for investigations.
Texas Rangers are investigative only (and considered somewhat elite in Texas) but the rangers are an elite division of dps right?
belimom
01-06-2011, 05:36 PM
Can someone link the facebook where the "rumblings' are?
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
oviedo
01-06-2011, 05:37 PM
The Hailey Dunn case returns to Nancy Grace on HLN Thursday night, the first national broadcast to give attention to the Colorado City teen's disappearance.
KTAB is told the first 45 minutes of the show, which airs from 7 to 8 p.m., will cover the latest developments in Dunn's disappearance.
snipped
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328796
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 05:38 PM
they are part of the multi agency task force...
Sorry, I should have been more clear - I asked that because typically DPS Troopers make arrests, where the Rangers do more investigation.
(at least here in TX and from my experience)
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:38 PM
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
They must have deleted the rumblings.......I don't see anything.
Texas Mist
01-06-2011, 05:39 PM
but the rangers are an elite division of dps right?
yes, they are elite...they have been around since the 1800's...they're considered to be like the FBI or Scotland Yard of Texas.
Texas Mist
01-06-2011, 05:41 PM
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
can we get another hint? like who's post or what time it was made?
KathrynL
01-06-2011, 05:41 PM
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
I was just there and didn't see any *rumblings* of note. (Which to me would be someone in town there with news. Rumor-mongering and nasty comments have been prohibited by the owner under threat of inactivating the page).
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 05:41 PM
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
Still not seeing any new comments on this page?
kantoo
01-06-2011, 05:41 PM
The report says DPS troopers. That's troopers not Texas Rangers. Of course the reporter may not know the difference, but most of us have been stopped by a trooper for speeding before, lol. The Ranger is only going to stop you if you have a warrant out. Plus the rangers don't wear uniforms.
peeples
01-06-2011, 05:42 PM
They must have deleted the rumblings.......I don't see anything.
I can't find anything either
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:43 PM
but they, the rangers... are still a part of dps right? that is what I was wondering....
as that is what was just quoted as going back into the home...
KTAB's Marc Gustafson reports DPS troopers have entered the Dunn home. It's unclear what they're doing at the home. http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
they are most likely in there as we converse here
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 05:43 PM
I am nervous about DPS @ house if they were the ones in the air an hour ago.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:44 PM
I'm seeing rumblings on FB about Hailey but haven't seen any confirmation and am not about to start a rumor. PRAYING FOR HAILEY!!!!
WHERE did you see this?
belimom
01-06-2011, 05:44 PM
I was just there and didn't see any *rumblings* of note. (Which to me would be someone in town there with news. Rumor-mongering and nasty comments have been prohibited by the owner under threat of inactivating the page).
This is the Find Hailey page that the father is posting on, under his mom's name. Her 'picture' is Alan Jackson.
I don't know about rumblings... But you do have to click on comments to expand the comment some of them.
If I have the wrong page, then someone correct me! Thanks... :)
Fisherdog
01-06-2011, 05:44 PM
info about tx rangers
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/TexasRangers/
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 05:45 PM
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
I'm still missing the rumblings:waitasec:
hollye
01-06-2011, 05:45 PM
I see a post saying they need prayers, but nothing else.
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 05:45 PM
I am nervous about DPS @ house if they were the ones in the air an hour ago.
now that you say that.....
A Texas Department of Public Safety helicopter is expected to fly over the skies of Colorado City Thursday as crews continue their search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328506
belimom
01-06-2011, 05:47 PM
I see a post saying they need prayers, but nothing else.
Near the top, above the posts, there are options. Click on "Find Hailey Dunn + Others".
hollye
01-06-2011, 05:47 PM
Clicking on Just Hailey Dunn + Others will get you more info, but not sure what exactly the rumbligns are yet.
CN2Souls
01-06-2011, 05:48 PM
Twitter has rumblings... not sure if true.. And of what significants the poster has by statements.
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=hailey+dunn&result_type=recent
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 05:48 PM
now that you say that.....
CBS7News (http://twitter.com/#!/CBS7News) CBS 7
DPS helicopters are overhead conducting aerial search for #HaileyDunn (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23HaileyDunn) in Colorado City.
That was tweeted an hour ago
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 05:48 PM
Is there not one person in town with a police scanner?
KathrynL
01-06-2011, 05:49 PM
This is the Find Hailey page that the father is posting on, under his mom's name. Her 'picture' is Alan Jackson.
I don't know about rumblings... But you do have to click on comments to expand the comment some of them.
If I have the wrong page, then someone correct me! Thanks... :)
I was referring to the Find Hailey fb page, not the other. I did not look at any responses to her father's posts. From the original poster's comment, I thought the rumblings were on the former. But, I don't know. :)
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 05:51 PM
Twitter has rumblings... not sure if true.. And of what significants the poster has by statements.
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=hailey+dunn&result_type=recent
about the helicopter?
hollye
01-06-2011, 05:51 PM
Twitter... http://search.twitter.com/search?q=hailey+dunn&result_type=recent
elepher50
01-06-2011, 05:51 PM
Can someone link the facebook where the "rumblings' are?
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
belimom
01-06-2011, 05:52 PM
Everyone... I was linking the FB page for Find Hailey. The dad posted on it a couple of times. Other than that, I know nothing about rumblings. I would hate for yall to search all the posts looking for rumblings if that's the wrong page. So if someone saw the "rumblings", maybe they can say where that was... ;)
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 05:52 PM
CBS7News (http://twitter.com/#!/CBS7News) CBS 7
Exclusive Information On Search for Missing Colorado City Teen http://cbs7.com/news/details.asp?ID=23235 http://fb.me/x84D1z2Z
1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/#!/CBS7News/status/23149546267742208) Favorite (http://twitter.com/#) Retweet (http://twitter.com/#) Reply (http://twitter.com/#)
hollye
01-06-2011, 05:52 PM
Anyone know where the helicopters are and where they have landed?
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 05:53 PM
Can someone paraphrase these rumblings?
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 05:54 PM
CBS7News (http://twitter.com/#!/CBS7News) CBS 7
Exclusive Information On Search for Missing Colorado City Teen http://cbs7.com/news/details.asp?ID=23235 http://fb.me/x84D1z2Z
1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/#!/CBS7News/status/23149546267742208) Favorite (http://twitter.com/#) Retweet (http://twitter.com/#) Reply (http://twitter.com/#)
What I pulled up is NOT new news
hollye
01-06-2011, 05:54 PM
hoping things aren't true and asking what people are hearing, nothing specific.
CN2Souls
01-06-2011, 05:54 PM
Anyone know where the helicopters are and where they have landed?
Not sure I will check
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:55 PM
Basically, someone ask if what they heard was true, that people in Snyder had been texting, and they didn't want to say what because they didn't know if it was true.
There is the rumblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DewSeeker
01-06-2011, 05:55 PM
Still not seeing any new comments on this page?
I did see one thing of note in the comments, but it does seem to be rumor and I can't seem to find where this person is getting the info from at all.
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 05:55 PM
I give up....facebook & twitter
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 05:55 PM
Ok I see it...but nothing specific...
peeples
01-06-2011, 05:56 PM
Click on the topic we need your prayers 12 minutes ago
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 05:56 PM
shan_1433 (http://twitter.com/shan_1433): #MISSING (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23MISSING) Hailey Dunn Helicopters land 2nd time in field
10 minutes ago via Twitter for Android (http://mobile.twitter.com/) from Loraine, TX (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=place%3Adc5a44bc9ab80ef9) · Reply (http://twitter.com/?status=@shan_1433%20&in_reply_to_status_id=23148023152377856&in_reply_to=shan_1433) · View Tweet (http://twitter.com/shan_1433/statuses/23148023152377856)
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 05:57 PM
Can someone paraphrase these rumblings?
I click to expand the comments at the top, saw what was apparenty a juvinile say that hr friend was crying and had to go to the councilor's office. Apparently something bad making the rounds with local text msgs.
JMO what I think about it.
peeples
01-06-2011, 05:57 PM
now there is something about cbs 7 but i don't know where their website is
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 05:58 PM
I'm surprised there has not been more "rumblings" of that nature, usually they run amuck.
KathrynL
01-06-2011, 05:59 PM
Can someone paraphrase these rumblings?
I think it's a couple of posts from someone saying they have heard something but doesn't want to be specific in case it isn't true. It was on the "plus everyone" page (which I had never looked at til now). :confused:
peeples
01-06-2011, 05:59 PM
I found the cbs twitter thing
http://twitter.com/cbs7news
DewSeeker
01-06-2011, 06:00 PM
Basically, someone ask if what they heard was true, that people in Snyder had been texting, and they didn't want to say what because they didn't know if it was true.
There is the rumblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw something about the medication-AND THIS IS NOT AT ALL CONFIRMED, PURELY RUMOR- that SA is taking, naming it by brand name.
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 06:00 PM
Probably answered already...but Yes, they are a division of DPS
but they, the rangers... are still a part of dps right? that is what I was wondering....
as that is what was just quoted as going back into the home...
they are most likely in there as we converse here
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:00 PM
Whtching KTAB news live now, sry, I type slow but will try to post.
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:01 PM
searchers got out of copter, looking around in field near Hailey's home
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:02 PM
Cut to reporter saying BO is frustrated, they are on site to report any development..
They are probably not going to say much at all over the scanner in a situation like this.
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:03 PM
Hard to get any officials to talk to them at all...phones ringing off the hook at their offices
hollye
01-06-2011, 06:03 PM
Where is the Alco? Apparently they are saying that they are in the woods behind that.
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn#!/findhaileydunn/posts/179166455447811
Post by JN
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:04 PM
If they brought the copter down...this may not be good.
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:04 PM
they are supposed to have middle school officials who will talk with them soon
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:05 PM
Middle school talk was already arranged... not about what's happening in the field with the copter
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:05 PM
A Texas Department of Public Safety helicopter is flying over Colorado City this late afternoon as crews continue their search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
The chopper came down momentarily, landing in a field before going back up to search from the air.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328506
This was posted an hour AFTER the DPS troopers going into the house on the same news source.
They are still searching - that's a good sign.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:06 PM
No one wants that news, but if it is to be that way, the sooner they find her the better.
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:06 PM
Will keep on updating thruout broadcast if any new news
Texas Mist
01-06-2011, 06:06 PM
Where is the Alco? Apparently they are saying that they are in the woods behind that.
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn#!/findhaileydunn/posts/179166455447811
Post by JN
The Alco is on Hickory street
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=alco+colorado+city+tx&fb=1&gl=us&hq=alco&hnear=Colorado+City,+TX&cid=16501503474224338605
hollye
01-06-2011, 06:06 PM
Where is the Alco? Apparently they are saying that they are in the woods behind that.
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn#!/findhaileydunn/posts/179166455447811
Post by JN
Alrighty then, that post got removed.
TxLady2
01-06-2011, 06:07 PM
but they, the rangers... are still a part of dps right? that is what I was wondering....
as that is what was just quoted as going back into the home...
they are most likely in there as we converse here
I'm not positive, but I believe the Rangers were organized before there were ever any cars so doubt that they are part of DPS. But I could be wrong.
Not many people would mistake them for DPS troopers, since the DPS wear distinctive uniforms. In fact, some troopers uniforms look very similar to our sheriff's dept. uniforms.
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:07 PM
talking abt other stuff now.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:09 PM
shan_1433: #MISSING Hailey Dunn Helicopters land 2nd time in field
23 minutes ago via Twitter for Android from Loraine, TX · Reply · View Tweet
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=hailey+dunn&result_type=recent
If that bit is true, perhaps they went and picked someone up and went back - they might do that if the location was hard to access.
hollye
01-06-2011, 06:09 PM
Okay, I don't see woods behind the Alco, but I do see an RSO directly behind it.
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:10 PM
This thread is moving fast again.... I don't want people to miss this.
A Texas Department of Public Safety helicopter is flying over Colorado City this late afternoon as crews continue their search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
The chopper came down momentarily, landing in a field before going back up to search from the air.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328506
This was posted an hour AFTER the DPS troopers going into the house on the same news source.
They are still searching - that's a good sign. They wouldn't still be in the air if they had found her.
belimom
01-06-2011, 06:12 PM
Okay, I don't see woods behind the Alco, but I do see an RSO directly behind it.
I see a wooded area, diagonally across the street - behind it.
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 06:12 PM
now there is something about cbs 7 but i don't know where their website is
@CBS7News ÜT: 31.984418,-102.111343
Your eye on west Texas.
http://www.cbs7.com
This is their twitter site which I think is terrible....hardly any updates
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:12 PM
Kamper is on the news!
NoW!
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:13 PM
Who runs the find H facebook, is it family, do we know?
Patty G
01-06-2011, 06:13 PM
Friendly reminder: Asking for someone to PM is a :nono:
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:13 PM
says getting corroboration of stories from interviews
hollye
01-06-2011, 06:13 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=206712377457840198355.000498a54a49c9ef478db&ll=32.40934,-100.855694&spn=0.006277,0.009602&t=h&z=17
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:13 PM
Nothing found in the field with the copter
Walker007
01-06-2011, 06:14 PM
Wonder if they would bring in drones along with the helicopter? They have been used in cases before.
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 06:15 PM
Search authorities also said the reward for returning Hailey officially stood at $15,000. Officials said they had erroneously reported the reward as being $25,000, apparently because some of the money was pledged but yet not donated. Nevertheless, new billboards put up Thursday announced the reward as $25,000.
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26391662/detail.html
(and I'm not getting back on my rant...just posting this article because I don't know if it was previously posted):innocent:
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:15 PM
going over all leads 3 or 4 times, he will be back on news at six to address NG criticizm of investigation, that's all
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:15 PM
During a press conference at 4:30 p.m. on Thursday afternoon, Kampfer confirmed that Adkins was at the Dunn residence earlier in the day. When asked by an out-of-town news station if the Texas Rangers know where Adkins is, Kampfer stated that he isn't sure what the Texas Rangers may or may not know.
are you serious! I am thudding...
turn this over to LE NOW!
IN MY THUDDING I FORGOT THE LINK... SORRY:
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/rumors-missing-boyfriend-unfounded
TxLady2
01-06-2011, 06:15 PM
Ooops... I was wrong. They are part of DPS, since 1935.
The Texas Rangers were unofficially created by Stephen F. Austin in a call-to-arms written in 1823 and were formally constituted in 1835. The unit was dissolved by the federal authorities during the post-Civil War Reconstruction era, but was quickly reformed upon the reinstitution of home government. Since 1935, the organization has been a division of the Texas Department of Public Safety; it fulfills the role of Texas's State Bureau of Investigation.
link didn't copy, but got this from Wikipedia. Sorry!!!!
hollye
01-06-2011, 06:15 PM
I see a wooded area, diagonally across the street - behind it.
Thanks! I found it on the OTHER side of the RSO's house.
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Kamper is on the news!
NoW!
.............eyeroll.......what's he saying now?
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:16 PM
They need to quit worrying about NG...
TGIRecovered
01-06-2011, 06:16 PM
almost burned the beef i'm browning for spaghetti, I';ll be back ltr, sorry for typos!
hollye
01-06-2011, 06:18 PM
almost burned the beef i'm browning for spaghetti, I';ll be back ltr, sorry for typos!
Yeah, I left the 2yo in his high chair for a bit longer than necessary, just so he wouldn't try to get at my keyboard, LOL!
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:18 PM
going over all leads 3 or 4 times, he will be back on news at six to address NG criticizm of investigation, that's all
great...
let him have at it... ((as I sit here and wonder where the rock thrown at a glass house will land))
hollye
01-06-2011, 06:19 PM
Who runs the find H facebook, is it family, do we know?
IIRC, it is someone from here, who does not know the family, but is local to the case. Anyone want to correct that?
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:20 PM
FB has nothing, just people in panic mode for a bit...no news...
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 06:20 PM
During a press conference at 4:30 p.m. on Thursday afternoon, Kampfer confirmed that Adkins was at the Dunn residence earlier in the day. When asked by an out-of-town news station if the Texas Rangers know where Adkins is, Kampfer stated that he isn't sure what the Texas Rangers may or may not know.
are you serious! I am thudding...
turn this over to LE NOW!
IN MY THUDDING I FORGOT THE LINK... SORRY:
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/rumors-missing-boyfriend-unfounded
OMG!!!!
I'm speechless!
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:20 PM
http://www.cbs7.com/news/
btw... those covering their twitter... their last update was at 1215 today...
shame on them...
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:20 PM
great...
let him have at it... ((as I sit here and wonder where the rock thrown at a glass house will land))
Does he not watch NG? Does he not know she will get on him like a fly on errr...um, well you know what.
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 06:21 PM
IIRC, it is someone from here, who does not know the family, but is local to the case. Anyone want to correct that?
Nope...you're right!
Page 4 or 5 of Thread 1
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 06:21 PM
Friendly reminder: Asking for someone to PM is a :nono:
I deleted it, thanks
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:21 PM
this is not a guessing game... for the spokesperson!
he needs to get his ducks in a row.... and now.
This is RIDICULOUS! IMHOO!
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:22 PM
I am starting to wonder if they have any idea at all, what might have happened to H...
peeples
01-06-2011, 06:22 PM
IIRC, it is someone from here, who does not know the family, but is local to the case. Anyone want to correct that?
Nope you're right as far as i know, it's redcat i believe
doughgirl07
01-06-2011, 06:23 PM
"they" , LE, may know what's going on but clearly not this baffoon
ETA - hence, stop holding press conferences if you don't have anything, or know anything, to share that is useful
Patty G
01-06-2011, 06:23 PM
During a press conference at 4:30 p.m. on Thursday afternoon, Kampfer confirmed that Adkins was at the Dunn residence earlier in the day. When asked by an out-of-town news station if the Texas Rangers know where Adkins is, Kampfer stated that he isn't sure what the Texas Rangers may or may not know.
are you serious! I am thudding...
turn this over to LE NOW!
IN MY THUDDING I FORGOT THE LINK... SORRY:
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/rumors-missing-boyfriend-unfounded
I am being silly when I post this: "you asked for a press conference and you got one!" :crazy:
kantoo
01-06-2011, 06:24 PM
LE says the same thing as Kampfer said, only they say they "can't confirm or deny"
quit picking on my husband!!
j/k :)
Patty G
01-06-2011, 06:24 PM
Does he not watch NG? Does he not know she will get on him like a fly on errr...um, well you know what.
I have a feeling I am not going to be able to control my "mouth" as I record Nancy tonight. :crazy:
gibby207
01-06-2011, 06:25 PM
I have a feeling I am not going to be able to control my "mouth" as I record Nancy tonight. :crazy:
Those are my favorite ones to watch! :rocker:
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:26 PM
I am starting to wonder if they have any idea at all, what might have happened to H...
I do think they know.. or have some idea... imhoo of course
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:26 PM
I have a feeling I am not going to be able to control my "mouth" as I record Nancy tonight. :crazy:
And for that reason alone, I shall watch your tapes. lol. :great:
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:26 PM
Thursday, 5:15 p.m.
Nine agencies, including the FBI and the Secret Service, are now involved in the search for Hailey Dunn.
A press release just sent out by the Colorado City city manager says 30 officers are working to follow up on interviews and leads into the 13-year-old's whereabouts.
The agencies are: Colorado City Police Department, Mitchell County Sheriff’s Office, Texas Department of Public Safety, FBI, Snyder Police Department, 32nd Judicial District Court, Scurry County Sheriff’s Office, Secret Service and Child Advisory Center.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:26 PM
I hope NG does not take out any frustrations on Billie...
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:27 PM
I have a feeling I am not going to be able to control my "mouth" as I record Nancy tonight. :crazy: Patty, I hope you are feeling better! I know you said you were under the weather... thanks for all you do here!
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:27 PM
LE says the same thing as Kampfer said, only they say they "can't confirm or deny"
quit picking on my husband!!
j/k :)
Could you tell hubby to get on the ball down there? :crazy:
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 06:27 PM
LE says the same thing as Kampfer said, only they say they "can't confirm or deny"
quit picking on my husband!!
j/k :)
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
I actually am starting to feel a little bit bad for this guy. Someone is making him go out there and make a :crazy: out of himself
orb4me
01-06-2011, 06:28 PM
meanwhile, there is a 9 yr old in Harris County that called 911, hung up, police called back and someone said yes its an emergancy.. He is home alone:(
i didnt know we can can pm for info. sorry all
money for info is like getting paid to give blood.
I suspect the dps is on to something, not a good sign:( Im thinking drains, basements, etc again.
Adkins cant be found?
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:28 PM
I am being silly when I post this: "you asked for a press conference and you got one!" :crazy: yeah too bad the media didn't cover it.. or maybe he didn't invite them?
man... I feel like a missing-person-kindergartren-teacher sometimes!
Princess of Oz
01-06-2011, 06:28 PM
They must have deleted the rumblings.......I don't see anything.
The only rumblings I see are people bickering back and forth about AA's and the LE.
peeples
01-06-2011, 06:29 PM
Secret Service??????
mahoneys07
01-06-2011, 06:29 PM
secret service? Intresting
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 06:29 PM
And for that reason alone, I shall watch your tapes. lol. :great:
slightly o/t but I personally watch them hoping I hear Patty give commentary and hear Mischa bark! LOL
passionflower
01-06-2011, 06:29 PM
Thursday, 5:15 p.m.
Nine agencies, including the FBI and the Secret Service, are now involved in the search for Hailey Dunn.
A press release just sent out by the Colorado City city manager says 30 officers are working to follow up on interviews and leads into the 13-year-old's whereabouts.
The agencies are: Colorado City Police Department, Mitchell County Sheriff’s Office, Texas Department of Public Safety, FBI, Snyder Police Department, 32nd Judicial District Court, Scurry County Sheriff’s Office, Secret Service and Child Advisory Center.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
WOW 9 agencies!!!
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:31 PM
Remember with Kyron, all these agencies offer help in diff. ways, we don't know if it means anything in particular...(I hope they find Hailey much sooner...) (:
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 06:31 PM
Thursday, 5:15 p.m.
Nine agencies, including the FBI and the Secret Service, are now involved in the search for Hailey Dunn.
A press release just sent out by the Colorado City city manager says 30 officers are working to follow up on interviews and leads into the 13-year-old's whereabouts.
The agencies are: Colorado City Police Department, Mitchell County Sheriff’s Office, Texas Department of Public Safety, FBI, Snyder Police Department, 32nd Judicial District Court, Scurry County Sheriff’s Office, Secret Service and Child Advisory Center.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456
I have never heard of the secret service being involved in a missing child's case. Hopefully she will be found soon!
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:31 PM
Yeah.........why would the Secret Service be involved????????????????? That's never happened has it?
Hmm, that is one of two fields/open areas I asked if had been searched....
I am hoping that they are not just using helicopters for those areas but are also working grid searches in the areas. It wouldn't be the first time the eyes in the sky have missed something....
passionflower
01-06-2011, 06:31 PM
not 1 article on our news in PA...............she could be anywhere!
since no Amber alert, a new law needs to be made that would cover cases like Hailey's!
Chili Fries
01-06-2011, 06:32 PM
In general, if Hailey is sadly deceased, I would be surprised if they found her body near town because there is so much open land in the area. The caveat would be if the perp didn't own a car, was not driving age or encountered and attacked Hailey somewhere where he couldn't safely take her his vehicle. But otherwise it just seems like there is way too much open space where she could be hidden.
Also, SA being at the Dunn house today obviously says a lot.
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:32 PM
SS got involved w/Kyron...I think they deal with Amber Alerts?
(PS- they do, they are involved with Missing/Exploited children)
peeples
01-06-2011, 06:32 PM
Remember with Kyron, all these agencies offer help in diff. ways, we don't know if it means anything in particular...(I hope they find Hailey much sooner...) (:
The secret service too???
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:33 PM
I hope NG does not take out any frustrations on Billie...
I hope that if it goes beyond just clarifying the polygraphs.... and into the "why did you move him into your house" or "why did you allow him to be alone with your daughter" or anything like that... that she will hang up. I hope there is someone else there to hang up for her if Billie doesn't.
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 06:33 PM
SS got involved w/Kyron...I think they deal with Amber Alerts?
(PS- they do, they are involved with Missing/Exploited children)
Yeah...Brittany Smith too
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:33 PM
One of the ways it does that is through its Project Alert -- a team made up of retired experts from a variety of agencies, including FBI, Secret Service, U.S. Marshals and state and local agencies.
http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_12349597
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:34 PM
Authorities in Colorado City say they have "substatial leads" in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
"Our leads are primarily around corroboration and information from the different people that they've interviewed and talked to," said City Manager Pete Kamfer during in interview with Lane Stone. "We're corroborating all the different information and data that they've provided."
Kamfer says they're intensifying their investigation and narrowing leads.
At 5 p.m., KTAB cameras were rolling as troopers walked in and out of the Dunn home.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328506
passionflower
01-06-2011, 06:34 PM
In general, if Hailey is sadly deceased, I would be surprised if they found her body near town because there is so much open land in the area. The caveat would be if the perp didn't own a car, was not driving age or encountered and attacked Hailey somewhere where he couldn't safely take her his vehicle. But otherwise it just seems like there is way too much open space where she could be hidden.
Also, SA being at the Dunn house today obviously says a lot.
BBM I missed that...so he went back to Billie's? To be with her???
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:34 PM
The U.S. Secret Service is home to an advanced forensic laboratory, which includes the world's largest ink library. Secret Service forensic analysts examine evidence, develop investigative leads and provide expert courtroom testimony. The lab is accredited by the American Society of Crime Laboratory Directors/Laboratory Accreditation Board (ASCLD/LAB).
Forensic examiners analyze questioned documents, fingerprints, false identification documents, credit cards and other related forensic science areas. Examiners also are responsible for coordinating photographic and graphic production, as well as video, audio and image enhancement services. Much of the technology and techniques utilized by examiners is exclusive to the U.S. Secret Service.
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, Congress mandated the U.S. Secret Service to provide forensic/technical assistance in matters involving missing and exploited children. The Secret Service offers this assistance to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. On April 30, 2003, President George W. Bush signed the PROTECT Act of 2003, known as the "Amber Alert Bill," which gave full authorization to the U.S. Secret Service in this area.
Chili Fries
01-06-2011, 06:35 PM
SS got involved w/Kyron...I think they deal with Amber Alerts?
(PS- they do, they are involved with Missing/Exploited children)
Here is the rundown:
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, Congress mandated the U.S. Secret Service to provide forensic/technical assistance in matters involving missing and exploited children. The Secret Service offers this assistance to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. On April 30, 2003, President George W. Bush signed the PROTECT Act of 2003, known as the "Amber Alert Bill", which gave full authorization to the U.S. Secret Service in this area.
The Secret Service has supported the NCMEC and local law enforcement agencies with its expertise in forensic photography, graphic arts, video production, audio/image enhancement, voice identification, computerized 3D models and video and audio tape duplication services.
http://www.secretservice.gov/partner_ncmec.shtml
CN2Souls
01-06-2011, 06:35 PM
Additional services are available to law enforcement through NCMEC’s collaboration with the U.S. Secret Service’s Forensic Services Division:
Handwriting comparison and analysis
Polygraph services
Automated Fingerprint Identification System (AFIS) database searches
Photographic enhancement
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/ServiceServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=174
Texas Mist
01-06-2011, 06:35 PM
Yeah.........why would the Secret Service be involved????????????????? That's never happened has it?
Looks like the Secret Service works w/ NCMEC
About the United States Secret Service
The United States Secret Service is a federal law enforcement agency mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service’s commitment to NCMEC builds upon a 12-year relationship in which the Secret Service continues to provide forensic, technical and investigative assistance in support of any investigation involving missing or exploited children. The Secret Service’s Operation Safe Kids initiative, promotes the safety of children by providing parents with a document containing biographical data, a current photograph and digitized, inkless fingerprints of their children. The agency also provides child safety briefings, bringing safety awareness to both children and parents
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/NewsEventServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2400
ATM I can't recall another case where they were missing, unless it was one where the missing child/children were taken out of the country....admittedly, my brain's pretty foggy - not much sleep the past few days.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:36 PM
Kamfer also revealed for the first time the city is aggressively tracking sex offenders to make sure they know where they're located at all times.
"We're also following up on information that they've provided us to make sure they are where they say there are," said Kamfer.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328506
hmmmmmmm...............................
Patty G
01-06-2011, 06:38 PM
Secret Service
http://www.secretservice.gov/
Criminal Investigations
http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml
Criminal Investigations
The United States Secret Service is responsible for maintaining the integrity of the nation's financial infrastructure and payment systems. As a part of this mission, the Secret Service constantly implements and evaluates prevention and response measures to guard against electronic crimes as well as other computer related fraud. The Secret Service derives its authority to investigate specified criminal violations from Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 3056.
Criminal investigations can be international in scope. These investigations include: counterfeiting of U.S. currency (to include coins); counterfeiting of foreign currency (occurring domestically); identity crimes such as access device fraud, identity theft, false identification fraud, bank fraud and check fraud; telemarketing fraud; telecommunications fraud (cellular and hard wire); computer fraud; fraud targeting automated payment systems and teller machines; direct deposit fraud; investigations of forgery, uttering, alterations, false impersonations or false claims involving U.S. Treasury Checks, U.S. Saving Bonds, U.S. Treasury Notes, Bonds and Bills; electronic funds transfer (EFT) including Treasury disbursements and fraud within the Treasury payment systems; Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation investigations; Farm Credit Administration violations; and fictitious or fraudulent commercial instruments and foreign securities.
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:39 PM
Every agency I've ever heard of and then some have been involved out in Portland at some point, hope it does not become as large an investigation as that one has...or as long.
belimom
01-06-2011, 06:39 PM
I am starting to wonder if they have any idea at all, what might have happened to H...
I do think they know.. or have some idea... imhoo of course
I think they may know what happened to her - or, who - but I don't think they have a clue where she is... :(
JHMO
everyoneneedsavoice
01-06-2011, 06:40 PM
Ok...gotta go to Doggy Day Care and make it back home before NG.
Corroborate = substantial?
Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Thursday, January 06 2011
Authorities in Colorado City say they have "substationial leads" in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
"Our leads are primarily around corroboration and information from the different people that they've interviewed and talked to," said City Manager Pete Kamfer during in interview with Lane Stone. "We're corroborating all the different information and data that they've provided."
Kamfer says they're intensifying their investigation and narrowing leads.
Kamfer also revealed for the first time the city is aggressively tracking sex offenders to make sure they know where they're located at all times.
"We're also following up on information that they've provided us to make sure they are where they say there are," said Kamfer.
Kamfer also dispelled many of the rumors circulating -- including that Dunn's body was found by DPS helicopters.
"Nothing lihas been found of that nature," added Kamfer. "We're still very hopeful."
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328506
StrayKat
01-06-2011, 06:40 PM
Hmm, that is one of two fields/open areas I asked if had been searched....
I am hoping that they are not just using helicopters for those areas but are also working grid searches in the areas. It wouldn't be the first time the eyes in the sky have missed something....
You did ask about that area last night.
mommyofthreekidz5
01-06-2011, 06:41 PM
Omg, please look at the second posting on the find Hailey facebook page, someone commented not even a minute ago something horrible:tears:
ETA : Not under the prayers thread, the one below it
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:42 PM
BBM I missed that...so he went back to Billie's? To be with her???
I think that was supposed to say SA NOT being at the Dunn house today says a lot. But I could be wrong.
Chili Fries
01-06-2011, 06:45 PM
I think that was supposed to say SA NOT being at the Dunn house today says a lot. But I could be wrong.
From the city manager:
During a press conference at 4:30 p.m. on Thursday afternoon, Kampfer confirmed that Adkins was at the Dunn residence earlier in the day.
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/rumors-missing-boyfriend-unfounded
my_tee_mouse
01-06-2011, 06:45 PM
Yeah.........why would the Secret Service be involved????????????????? That's never happened has it?
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/NewsEventServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2403
Snipped:
About the United States Secret Service
The United States Secret Service is a federal law enforcement agency mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service’s commitment to NCMEC builds upon a 12-year relationship in which the Secret Service continues to provide forensic, technical and investigative assistance in support of any investigation involving missing or exploited children. The Secret Service’s Operation Safe Kids initiative, promotes the safety of children by providing parents with a document containing biographical data, a current photograph and digitized, inkless fingerprints of their children. The agency also provides child safety briefings, bringing safety awareness to both children and parents.
ETA: Man, I see a lot of you are a lot quicker on the draw than I am!
Patty G
01-06-2011, 06:46 PM
Omg, please look at the second posting on the find Hailey facebook page, someone commented not even a minute ago something horrible:tears:
ETA : Not under the prayers thread, the one below it
Are you talking about the one with the initials DL?
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 06:46 PM
Omg, please look at the second posting on the find Hailey facebook page, someone commented not even a minute ago something horrible:tears:
ETA : Not under the prayers thread, the one below it
I am hoping it's a rumor.
belimom
01-06-2011, 06:46 PM
Omg, please look at the second posting on the find Hailey facebook page, someone commented not even a minute ago something horrible:tears:
ETA : Not under the prayers thread, the one below it
I hope it's just a rumor...
trigger
01-06-2011, 06:46 PM
Just went to twitter,,,priscillaluong..states ..Twitter is over capacity.
http://twitter.com/priscillaluong
mommyofthreekidz5
01-06-2011, 06:48 PM
Are you talking about the one with the initials DL?
Yes, I really wish until it was stated by LE , that people wouldn't do this . Whether its true or not, thats not how a family should hear something .
wildmala
01-06-2011, 06:48 PM
There is also a post about a news conference at 6pm. Anyone find any other info on that?
cluciano63
01-06-2011, 06:48 PM
I think that is just a harsh rumor...very rudely put too.
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:49 PM
Omg, please look at the second posting on the find Hailey facebook page, someone commented not even a minute ago something horrible:tears:
ETA : Not under the prayers thread, the one below it
I am going to brand that person.... less than credible.
Not that the city manager is anymore credible.... but I'll wait for a better source. Or some actual activity in a location that indicates some sort of crime scene. The media is more on top of this now, I think we will hear about it if LE suddenly all shows up at one area. Just like we did when they showed up at the house.
It could be true, or not. But I think the media will notice the activity quickly if it is.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:49 PM
I swear facebook is the Devil sometimes.
Ok, so the BF has NOT skipped town correct?
Laddsy
01-06-2011, 06:50 PM
Can someone do a google street map search on the old building they are talking about on the FB page?
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 06:50 PM
Just went to twitter,,,priscillaluong..states ..Twitter is over capacity.
http://twitter.com/priscillaluong
twitter seems to do that a lot. Not reporting anything new...talking about billboards
mommy23
01-06-2011, 06:51 PM
The initials DL has posted it a few times in the last few minutes on that site, others who are local are saying it is not true.... And she is the only one saying it, I wont believe it off of a rumor. I pray it is not true!!!
Texas Mist
01-06-2011, 06:51 PM
<snip>
At the same time family members have been asked to withhold comment from the media. The family said Thursday that Hailey's mom, Billie Jean Dunn, would make an exception for CNN's Nancy Grace show.
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13798536
mommyofthreekidz5
01-06-2011, 06:52 PM
I am hoping it's a rumor.
me too , I don't understand the way people think . I have tried to, but
"SHAKING MY HEAD " , I would not want to cause a family more pain then they are already going through .
WillenFan21
01-06-2011, 06:52 PM
I don't know if this has been posted but I think something bad is going on. Redcat updated the Find Hailey Facebook with this about an hour ago:
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall&filter=3#!/findhaileydunn/posts/179166455447811
Starry Night
01-06-2011, 06:53 PM
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/rumors-missing-boyfriend-unfounded
MsFacetious
01-06-2011, 06:53 PM
If the rumor actually was true, I would guess that Nancy Grace wouldn't have any live interviews in an hour. That would have been time for them to be informed.
So I think we can pretty safely eliminate it at that point if the parents are on her show as planned. :twocents:
SunnyinMO
01-06-2011, 06:54 PM
Ugh. This is heartbreaking. Hailey's dad doesn't have internet access or a FB account. He is posting on his mother's account, trying to get Hailey to call/come home. I am so devastated for this family.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251345847&v=wall
that is so sad....I am not sure what we can or can't say from posts on FB...but his posts are IMO worth reading...
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 06:54 PM
I don't know if this has been posted but I think something bad is going on. Redcat just updated the Find Hailey Facebook with this:
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall&filter=3#!/findhaileydunn/posts/179166455447811
She put that on there an hour ago.
WillenFan21
01-06-2011, 06:57 PM
She put that on there an hour ago.
I fixed my post. I still think that is kind of weird that she put that up tho.
StrayKat
01-06-2011, 06:59 PM
Ok, so the BF has NOT skipped town correct?
I doubt it... FBI, Secret Service, TX Rangers.
I think there may be more to this story sadly. But it's not exactly easy to put the pieces together with all the crappy information going out.
MCDRAW
01-06-2011, 07:00 PM
that is so sad....I am not sure what we can or can't say from posts on FB...but his posts are IMO worth reading...
Which ones are his post?
Linda7NJ
01-06-2011, 07:00 PM
thank goodness we cant post rumors here!
belimom
01-06-2011, 07:01 PM
that is so sad....I am not sure what we can or can't say from posts on FB...but his posts are IMO worth reading...
You're right - they are sad... Is it okay to paraphrase.
About Social Networks... - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
trigger
01-06-2011, 07:01 PM
twitter seems to do that a lot. Not reporting anything new...talking about billboards
OK thanks. My heart sank. Seeing FB and then twitter I thought the worst.
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 07:01 PM
What a convoluted mess. I just wish ONE reporter would get the facts straight. Just one.
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 07:01 PM
can someone please paraphrase what they are seeing...
this is nUTS.....NUTS I TELL YOU!
kantoo
01-06-2011, 07:02 PM
I fixed my post. I still think that is kind of weird that she put that up tho.
If you scroll down, you'll see they do that at regular intervals. First one i saw i was thinking uh oh...
belimom
01-06-2011, 07:02 PM
Which ones are his post?
He's posting under his mother's name. Her initials are CJ and her picture is Alan Jackson. I don't think he's posted recently... you may have to scroll down.
JLMcKenna83
01-06-2011, 07:02 PM
can someone please paraphrase what they are seeing...
this is nUTS.....NUTS I TELL YOU!
Think the worst. (That's about as paraphrased as I can put it without posting what was said)
tehcloser
01-06-2011, 07:02 PM
can someone please paraphrase what they are seeing...
this is nUTS.....NUTS I TELL YOU!
Nurse, it's just SOP, you know how it goes, rumors that she has been found, etc.
mechelle69
01-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Does anyone have a live stream for their 6 o'clock news?
imamaze
01-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Heads up, I'm working on starting a new thread now so this will be closed in a bit. Will be back to let you all know :-)
elepher50
01-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Google picture of old place behind a building on Hickory Street.
impatientredhead
01-06-2011, 07:04 PM
The person who posted the Alco building rumor posted that it was a prank and it is not true on her own page.
nursebeeme
01-06-2011, 07:05 PM
this is what happens when the community is not informed...
so sad...
COME LE ANTE UP! GET A SPOKESPERSON AND GIVE AN OFFICIAL UPDATE!
mysticrose
01-06-2011, 07:05 PM
can someone please paraphrase what they are seeing...
this is nUTS.....NUTS I TELL YOU!
Rumor Alert, here ya go nurse
Para: Haileys body found behind Alco in an old building
http://www.facebook.com/findhaileydunn?v=wall
mommyofthreekidz5
01-06-2011, 07:05 PM
Ok, the person that posted it is now saying that it was a prank . ok, I HAVE TO STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER FOR A MOMENT , how in the world do you create something like that as a prank . Heartless
StrayKat
01-06-2011, 07:06 PM
Copters still in sky.
czgtz
01-06-2011, 07:07 PM
The rumors are brutal. I wonder if the idiots who keep starting them even consider what they are doing to Billie and Clint?
belimom
01-06-2011, 07:08 PM
the person who posted the alco building rumor posted that it was a prank and it is not true on her own page.
thank you...
mechelle69
01-06-2011, 07:08 PM
The person who posted the Alco building rumor posted that it was a prank and it is not true on her own page.
I would not be suprised if that person turns up black and blue tomorrow. I hope for her own safety she does not live in Colorado City. What a disgusting and disturbing thing to do to Hailey's family, friends, and an entire country that is worrying along with them.
hollye
01-06-2011, 07:08 PM
Can someone do a google street map search on the old building they are talking about on the FB page?
Check out my map below, under The blue shaded area, called Possible Search Area ~ 1/6/11
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=206712377457840198355.000498a54a49c9ef478db&t=h&z=10
imamaze
01-06-2011, 07:09 PM
Ok, closing thread, please continue here...
Thread #6
x_files
01-06-2011, 07:10 PM
Google picture of old place behind a building on Hickory Street.
Very creepy. I wonder if any teens ever partied or hung out there, or kids played in that abandoned house and a RSO/predator knew about it.
yuck. :(
thanks for the photo.
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