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grandmaj
03-21-2011, 11:06 PM
Investigators also searched Adkins' grandmother's residence in Dunn Thursday. Toombs says officials are analyzing devices seized from the home.

"Once we come up with what was on that stuff, then there could be either future search warrants or possibly arrests, either in the missing person case on Hailey Dunn or on the child pornography case," he said.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

grandmaj
03-21-2011, 11:10 PM
I like the sound of those words. Sure looks like was are getting closer.

peeples
03-21-2011, 11:12 PM
oooo it sounds like maybe there was hailey related pics of some type.. i hate typing that :(

WillenFan21
03-21-2011, 11:13 PM
oooo it sounds like maybe there was hailey related pics of some type.. i hate typing that :(

This is one of my fears and I have to agree with you. Man I just feel so bad for Clint Dunn right now. :(

sreshowtime
03-21-2011, 11:17 PM
be nice if they could find evidence of maps having been looked at around 12/27, on google, mapquest, etc, on any of the devices seized

Dee10
03-21-2011, 11:20 PM
"Toombs says officials are analyzing devices seized from the home."

I love to read the comments below the article.

Suthrnqt
03-21-2011, 11:24 PM
Investigators also searched Adkins' grandmother's residence in Dunn Thursday. Toombs says officials are analyzing devices seized from the home.

"Once we come up with what was on that stuff, then there could be either future search warrants or possibly arrests, either in the missing person case on Hailey Dunn or on the child pornography case," he said.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Great find, grandmaj !!! :woohoo::woohoo:

Knox
03-21-2011, 11:27 PM
So glad Toombs is giving us the case updates. He says what he means and means what he says, as the old saying goes.
Listening to him speak, I think LE is just plain fed-up with the BD/SA bull$&!#, they can arrest them on the CP and continue investigating Hailey's case.

"According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone." What the heck is this about? I was busy all day and just logged in to catch up.

grandmaj
03-21-2011, 11:30 PM
That is all we know at this point Knox. I'm sure sooner or later it will come out.

Carrington
03-21-2011, 11:49 PM
I can't understand why Adkins is still hanging around, waiting to be arrested.
I would have thought he would have run by now.
IMO

yllek
03-21-2011, 11:50 PM
Investigators also searched Adkins' grandmother's residence in Dunn Thursday. Toombs says officials are analyzing devices seized from the home.

"Once we come up with what was on that stuff, then there could be either future search warrants or possibly arrests, either in the missing person case on Hailey Dunn or on the child pornography case," he said.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Thanks grams!!

I don't see anything about "a day up to 2 weeks" in the article. Am I missing something? TIA...

Truthwillsetufree
03-22-2011, 12:07 AM
This is one of my fears and I have to agree with you. Man I just feel so bad for Clint Dunn right now. :(

I feel worse for Hailey.

grandmaj
03-22-2011, 12:07 AM
Thanks grams!!

I don't see anything about "a day up to 2 weeks" in the article. Am I missing something? TIA...

Listen to the video. :) That is where I heard it.

gngr~snap
03-22-2011, 12:11 AM
I can't understand why Adkins is still hanging around, waiting to be arrested.
I would have thought he would have run by now.
IMO

I would think SA would be in hiding based on the reported amount of alleged images on several media devices. IMO. he should be scared of vigilante justice, but I guess he feels safe with the 24/7 tail LE has on him. Surely if the "Son's of Anarchy" roll up
he will be protected so that eventually he can be arrested, tried and convicted and serve his time on death row... I can't believe no one has taken a shot at him yet. Especially in TX.

grandmaj
03-22-2011, 12:13 AM
I fixed the title I had a little more room....... He said from one day up to 2 weeks to examine the electronic devices ............ It is in the video. They snipped part of his comment in the article. :)

yllek
03-22-2011, 12:15 AM
I fixed the title I had a little more room....... He said from one day up to 2 weeks to examine the electronic devices ............ It is in the video. They snipped part of his comment in the article. :)

Thanks grams! I hate when they snip the good stuff...

Truthwillsetufree
03-22-2011, 12:16 AM
I can't understand why Adkins is still hanging around, waiting to be arrested.
I would have thought he would have run by now.
IMO

I don't understand why folks keep thinking BD or SA will "run". Where would they run to? What car? One would need a dependable car to run somewhere. They don't have one between the 2 of them. They would need moneycash and lots of it as jobs without identification are hard to come by. By all accounts BD is a drug user and she would have to have her drugs and SA is on some kind of prescription meds...where would they get this filled? Run south to the border? One has to have connections in Mexico to be a fugitive, not to mention the fact Mexico does have an extradition treaty with the United States since 1980. BD and SA would not blend in that well in Mexico.
It takes a lot of money to be a fugitive....jus sayin'.

grandmaj
03-22-2011, 12:27 AM
Running is going to get them in so much more trouble. If it is the child porn they are charged with first and not Hailey, then bail would be denied if they tried to run. I remember another case and the man ran to the UK. They still got him back.

Unless they are self medicating they have got to be very nervous right now. Billie Dunn has no choice but to camp on Shawn's door. She knows she can't trust him he has proven that to her in the past.

Billie will never admit to what has happened or about her lies. Shawn will roll. When they come for him he will roll.

alwaysonmymind
03-22-2011, 12:41 AM
I don't understand why folks keep thinking BD or SA will "run". Where would they run to? What car? One would need a dependable car to run somewhere. They don't have one between the 2 of them. They would need moneycash and lots of it as jobs without identification are hard to come by. By all accounts BD is a drug user and she would have to have her drugs and SA is on some kind of prescription meds...where would they get this filled? Run south to the border? One has to have connections in Mexico to be a fugitive, not to mention the fact Mexico does have an extradition treaty with the United States since 1980. BD and SA would not blend in that well in Mexico.
It takes a lot of money to be a fugitive....jus sayin'.

Speaking of cars, doesn't BD still have the van from the Somer Thompson foundation? Tia


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Ladybulldog
03-22-2011, 12:53 AM
Speaking of cars, doesn't BD still have the van from the Somer Thompson foundation? Tia


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Actually the maroon van was giving to Billie by a stranger that lives near by among other things that she has been giving. The Somer Thompson foundation donated funds to cover her bills etc for a month.

alwaysonmymind
03-22-2011, 12:55 AM
Ohhhhh, thank you.

Truthwillsetufree
03-22-2011, 01:07 AM
Speaking of cars, doesn't BD still have the van from the Somer Thompson foundation? Tia


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It has been said that the van was given/sold to BD's Mother.

Alice Ramnit
03-22-2011, 01:35 AM
Actually the maroon van was giving to Billie by a stranger that lives near by among other things that she has been giving. The Somer Thompson foundation donated funds to cover her bills etc for a month.

It was reported that she sold it to her Mom for $300.00.

txsvicki
03-22-2011, 01:51 AM
Did they find the 5 flash drives or the one always on the key ring?

Aedrys
03-22-2011, 01:54 AM
Finally, a time table! I was wondering about that...and God bless the LE that are having to analyze all of that porn. I feel so sorry for them.

And how close do SA and BD live to the Mexican Border? I've forgotten where in Texas they are, LOL. I would seriously think if they're ever going to run, it's going to be to Mexico and they'd probably fit in pretty well there...

Tugela
03-22-2011, 05:37 AM
Finally, a time table! I was wondering about that...and God bless the LE that are having to analyze all of that porn. I feel so sorry for them.



Jumping the gun there...he didn't say there was anything on those devices, just that they are looking at them.

LisaB
03-22-2011, 08:21 AM
I like the sound of those words. Sure looks like was are getting closer.

The only words I DON'T like are "could be" and "possibly".

Aedrys
03-22-2011, 08:22 AM
Jumping the gun there...he didn't say there was anything on those devices, just that they are looking at them.

I'm not jumping the gun. If we're talking about the flash drives he carried on him, it's already been said that they had porn on them. Porn was also taken with cameras, and was found on every electronic device he touched. Unless we're talking about something totally different now? What device have they found that doesn't have porn on it?

ETA: Okay, it does say more devices were found at Adkins grandmother's home. I highly doubt, if SA touched them, that they don't have porn on them, but I can see where someone might think I jumped the gun since these are, I'm guessing, new devices found? Lord, there are too many electronic devices in this case! But I do remember LE saying that everything SA touched had porn on it. I do respect getting confirmation first on these new devices, though.

belimom
03-22-2011, 08:38 AM
So let me ask this: if LE had previously confiscated devices with porn - especially bestiality and CP - don't you think most people would delete any other images on other devices? I'm afraid he may have done that.

I do know that deleting them is not enough. You actually have to reformat and 'wipe it clean'. Otherwise, they're still there - the space is just freed up to be written over by something else.

Just trying to figure out how you can catch someone TWICE with the same illegal stuff? Maybe I'm giving him too much credit...

ThoughtFox
03-22-2011, 08:40 AM
People don't usually carry around empty flashdrives. The only thing you can do with them is store files on them. Why would he have five of them if they were empty - that makes no sense to me. :waitasec:

I don't understand why folks keep thinking BD or SA will "run". Where would they run to? What car? One would need a dependable car to run somewhere. They don't have one between the 2 of them. They would need moneycash and lots of it as jobs without identification are hard to come by. By all accounts BD is a drug user and she would have to have her drugs and SA is on some kind of prescription meds...where would they get this filled? Run south to the border? One has to have connections in Mexico to be a fugitive, not to mention the fact Mexico does have an extradition treaty with the United States since 1980. BD and SA would not blend in that well in Mexico.
It takes a lot of money to be a fugitive....jus sayin'.

Um, avoiding prison is a great motivation, and they certainly wouldn't be the first people to try and make a run for the border ~ Scott Peterson did the exact same thing after Laci's body washed ashore. He was packed up for camping and had $10,000 in the trunk of his purple pimp-mobile bought for him by his mother. Plus he had grown a beard to try and disguise himself.

Desperate people do desperate things.

One of my theories is that the person they went to see the other day might have had a car for sale. That's just conjecture, but it would not surprise me in the slightest.

"According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone."

SurfieTX
03-22-2011, 08:49 AM
"purple pimp-mobile"

Hahahaha!!!

CN2Souls
03-22-2011, 08:58 AM
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/august/rcfls_081809

There is no way to complete wipe any electronic device... Nothing out there will completely clean it.


But,

Smashing it into a million pieces and then burning it to ashes, then dropping it into the middle of the ocean would be about the only way no one would be able to retrieve the data on it.

ThoughtFox
03-22-2011, 09:02 AM
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/august/rcfls_081809

There is no way to complete wipe any electronic device... Nothing out there will completely clean it.


But,

Smashing it into a million pieces and then burning it to ashes, then dropping it into the middle of the ocean would be about the only way no one would be able to retrieve the data on it.
With a small flashdrive, probably one good smack with a hammer would do it.

I hope he didn't destroy evidence though.

Evan's Mom
03-22-2011, 09:09 AM
So let me ask this: if LE had previously confiscated devices with porn - especially bestiality and CP - don't you think most people would delete any other images on other devices? I'm afraid he may have done that.

I do know that deleting them is not enough. You actually have to reformat and 'wipe it clean'. Otherwise, they're still there - the space is just freed up to be written over by something else.

Just trying to figure out how you can catch someone TWICE with the same illegal stuff? Maybe I'm giving him too much credit...

Even if he wiped the computers clean or did a reformat, there would be traces left and if the FBI is still helping with this case, they'll certainly be able to find what was cleaned.
There is a chance he could have replaced a hard drive, but I don't know that Shawn would be that smart.

CN2Souls
03-22-2011, 09:14 AM
With a small flash-drive, probably one good smack with a hammer would do it.

I hope he didn't destroy evidence though.

Actually I Ran mine over with My SUV (don't ask LOL) :crazy:

and My It tech was still able to get all the data off of it.

Also when you load it from your computer your computer makes a file of everything that is put on it.

belimom
03-22-2011, 09:23 AM
I guess my main point is: I don't understand how you could get caught for the same thing TWICE? He knows LE is watching him, he knows LE has found the porn/CP, he knows LE could search again. So why would he carry it around or have it on any device they could search, kwim?

Again, maybe I'm giving him too much credit.

ThoughtFox
03-22-2011, 09:23 AM
Actually I Ran mine over with My SUV (don't ask LOL) :crazy:

and My It tech was still able to get all the data off of it.

Also when you load it from your computer your computer makes a file of everything that is put on it.
That's amazing! :)

Truthwillsetufree
03-22-2011, 09:28 AM
People don't usually carry around empty flashdrives. The only thing you can do with them is store files on them. Why would he have five of them if they were empty - that makes no sense to me. :waitasec:



Um, avoiding prison is a great motivation, and they certainly wouldn't be the first people to try and make a run for the border ~ Scott Peterson did the exact same thing after Laci's body washed ashore. He was packed up for camping and had $10,000 in the trunk of his purple pimp-mobile bought for him by his mother. Plus he had grown a beard to try and disguise himself.

Desperate people do desperate things.

One of my theories is that the person they went to see the other day might have had a car for sale. That's just conjecture, but it would not surprise me in the slightest.

"According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the callerís residence looking for someone."

Good points, but Scott P had 10 big ones with him and did not have a drug problem. No, they would not be the first to run for the border but the border towns are just not like they used to be, not even a year ago. There is mayhem and chaos in the streets over there. These two, BD and SA may fancy themselves street smart but I assure you, they don't have the smarts to be fugitives in Mexico. Desperate times call for desperate measures is true but if caught in Mexico, and they will be caught over there. If that is where they choose to go, going to the Big House in Mexico will not be a vacation. Mexican jails are houses of horrors of a magnitude we can not begin to comprehend.
Okay, on second thought, someone get BD and SA a map!

Truthwillsetufree
03-22-2011, 09:58 AM
One other thought...Passports...you can leave, but ya can't come back without one. Don't know if this is really enforced though......
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html#entry_requirements

nainebug
03-22-2011, 10:12 AM
One other thought...Passports...you can leave, but ya can't come back without one. Don't know if this is really enforced though......
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html#entry_requirements

my husband and his friends attend a bike ralley every spring that takes them across the border for a bike show.... them and everyone else says it is heavily enforced.

nainebug
03-22-2011, 10:15 AM
Finally, a time table! I was wondering about that...and God bless the LE that are having to analyze all of that porn. I feel so sorry for them.

And how close do SA and BD live to the Mexican Border? I've forgotten where in Texas they are, LOL. I would seriously think if they're ever going to run, it's going to be to Mexico and they'd probably fit in pretty well there...

they are about 30 miles east of me..... I am 333 miles from El Paso ..... nearest border would be at least a few hours away going south or east.

ThoughtFox
03-22-2011, 10:35 AM
One other thought...Passports...you can leave, but ya can't come back without one. Don't know if this is really enforced though......
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html#entry_requirements

Then maybe they were just planning to hide out in the U.S.? They would hardly be the first people to go on the run, and the South is full of places where they could hide for months without being found, whether in the country or in large cities where they could get work.

And let's recall that BD had that print-out under her bed about a "good girl gone bad." Why wouldn't they want to try out the Bonnie and Clyde fantasy of their dreams?

In fact, it really wouldn't surprise me at all. :twocents:

ThoughtFox
03-22-2011, 10:45 AM
Here's the thing about "the good girl gone bad" ~ and again I'm trying to explain why I think they might have been trying to buy a vehicle to flee Texas:

Fifteen pages printed on Sept. 29 was material related to Alton Coleman and Debra Brown, a pair of killers in which Brown was painted as “a good girl gone bad” and incorporating sex and death.
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26465402/detail.html

About Alton Coleman and Debra Brown:

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/alton_coleman.htm

By the time authorities caught up to the deadly pair on July 20, 1984, they had committed at least eight murders, seven rapes, three kidnapping and 14 armed robberies.

After careful consideration by authorities from six states, it was decided that Ohio would be the best place to first prosecute the pair because of its death penalty. Both were found guilty for the murder of Tonnie Storey and Marlene Walters and received the death penalty.

Kamille
03-22-2011, 10:58 AM
With a small flashdrive, probably one good smack with a hammer would do it.

I hope he didn't destroy evidence though.

Since a large percentage of people believe that SA may have been able to hide a deceased body successfully from LE and multiple search groups, it's certainly not too much of a stretch to believe that he can hide 5 small flashdrives.

I'm sure they are long destroyed and/or hidden.

Finding more evidence of CP would be good to increase the possible sentence he may receive for possessing it, but it's not necessary to find them to prosecute him if there are other examples that can be traced directly to him.

MOO

Aedrys
03-22-2011, 12:36 PM
I am so confused. Are we talking about the flashdrives in this thread or other devices, or both? I need a dang list of all devices LE took or something. I wonder just how many LE has?

And I am shuddering on the Bonnie/Clyde thing. I can actually see that happening and BD claiming she was forced to do it by SA. I literally got a shiver down my spine. I hope that doesn't happen.

Kamille
03-22-2011, 12:48 PM
I am so confused. Are we talking about the flashdrives in this thread or other devices, or both? I need a dang list of all devices LE took or something. I wonder just how many LE has?

And I am shuddering on the Bonnie/Clyde thing. I can actually see that happening and BD claiming she was forced to do it by SA. I literally got a shiver down my spine. I hope that doesn't happen.

Not sure if we have a list of all the devices that were taken from the recent search warrant issued at SA's grandmother's house. I believe there is at least one computer and a couple of cameras that were taken. There is indication that some of the pictures on either SA's cellphone, the computer or both were taken with a Kodak Easy Share Camera and there were two of these type of cameras at the grandmother's house.

Then there is the issue of PH claiming on Levi's blog talk the other night that LE were looking for 5 flashdrives/USB memory sticks that SA was known to carry with him. That has only been discussed on that blog talk radio show and there is no indication that LE have found or seized any additional flashdrives/memory sticks other than the one they found at BD's in a dresser drawer.

HTH

Caligram
03-22-2011, 05:43 PM
Another thought about Shawn and his hiding places....he would have been very stupid to keep five flash drives on his keyring or any other place he inhabited. He probably hid them somewhere for safekeeping, and maybe BD doesn't know where. Funny, that could put him in a powerful spot with BD. She watches what she says now or those dirty little gadgets could be found on her property. Shawn must have some friends who would do him a favor.
I also wonder if the pornography pigs were into selling, and might have a cash stash. It wouldn't be wise to buy cars and stuff that would draw attention to their new "financial affluency". Or, it could explain why they "lived" poor but could afford drugs.

TexasTNT
03-22-2011, 05:51 PM
JMO. It was a "little bit" of a side business they had going.

I don't think it will take two weeks for LE to check all these devices. They now know where to look, specifically what to look for, there is a very telling trail at this point.

JMO there will be arrests in the not too distant future.

MOO and all that jazz.

CN2Souls
03-22-2011, 06:04 PM
Do we have a total count now on all the devices IE, Computers, Phones, Cameras, Porn Sticks and SD memory Cards that LE have in their Possession?

Jo in Calif
03-22-2011, 06:08 PM
Do we have a total count now on all the devices IE, Computers, Phones, Cameras, Porn Sticks and SD memory Cards that LE have in their Possession?

Not yet, but it will sound like an electronics store, by the time they have all of it.

MsFacetious
03-22-2011, 06:37 PM
I guess my main point is: I don't understand how you could get caught for the same thing TWICE? He knows LE is watching him, he knows LE has found the porn/CP, he knows LE could search again. So why would he carry it around or have it on any device they could search, kwim?

Again, maybe I'm giving him too much credit.

Why if you have 1, 5, 10, 15 DUI's would you drive drink AGAIN in the same town... when you KNOW the cops just park at the end of your street watching for you?

Why if you know your child is missing and you are already under scrutiny, would you be selling drugs to someone you didn't previously know?

Why if you have been convicted for drugs and are being randomly drug tested, do you go out and use drugs?

Addiction.

Money.

Arrogance.

Stupidity.

Impulsiveness.

Narcissism.

Take your pick... it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Shawn kept them around for any 1 or combination of the above reasons.

kirby
03-22-2011, 06:42 PM
Do we have a total count now on all the devices IE, Computers, Phones, Cameras, Porn Sticks and SD memory Cards that LE have in their Possession?



new affidavits have been posted on ktxs website

MsFacetious
03-22-2011, 09:12 PM
Affidavits for Pornography Search Warrants

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf

MD MOMMY
03-22-2011, 10:12 PM
Affidavits for Pornography Search Warrants

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf

Geesh, electronics galore around these people.

SuziQ
03-23-2011, 01:17 AM
So four people are suspected of concealing items from LE? Am I interpreting this correctly?

scorekeeper
04-13-2011, 11:26 AM
Investigators also searched Adkins' grandmother's residence in Dunn Thursday. Toombs says officials are analyzing devices seized from the home.

"Once we come up with what was on that stuff, then there could be either future search warrants or possibly arrests, either in the missing person case on Hailey Dunn or on the child pornography case," he said.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

It's been 3 WEEKS and 2 DAYS....

We can only hope they have a lot of evidence they are matching up and will soon be making arrests in the CP case...

C'Mon LE give us something. :HHJP:

SA and BJD, WHERE'S HAILEY??

JMO

Soulmagent
04-24-2011, 01:27 AM
Another week.

scorekeeper
04-25-2011, 01:44 AM
Another week.

OMG..........why is nothing happening..........Hailey's family and friends - first Easter without her...........

Please LE.........arrest someone......

Hailey, your are still in our prayers......


:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Soulmagent
07-20-2011, 01:29 PM
Investigators also searched Adkins' grandmother's residence in Dunn Thursday. Toombs says officials are analyzing devices seized from the home.

"Once we come up with what was on that stuff, then there could be either future search warrants or possibly arrests, either in the missing person case on Hailey Dunn or on the child pornography case," he said.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Well toombs , where are we at now?

Rather short term promise with long term silence....

katydid23
07-20-2011, 01:31 PM
Well toombs , where are we at now?

Rather short term promise with long term silence....

Good question.

hollyblue
10-14-2011, 06:10 AM
Well toombs , where are we at now?

Rather short term promise with long term silence....

Same ole.

Investigators Still Waiting on Child Porn Results in Hailey Dunn Case

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says his department still hasn't received results on whether child pornography was discovered on computers seized during the investigation into Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=422667 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=422667)

Melanie
10-14-2011, 06:19 AM
Same ole.

Investigators Still Waiting on Child Porn Results in Hailey Dunn Case

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says his department still hasn't received results on whether child pornography was discovered on computers seized during the investigation into Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=422667 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=422667)

Oh my goodness. What is the holdup!!

Soulmagent
10-14-2011, 08:03 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=422667

Toombs says child porn was not discovered in the home of Hailey's mother Billie Dunn. He says computers and electronics taken from relatives of Billie's boyfriend Shawn Adkins were sent off for testing and still have not yet been returned

I dont know if anyone was relieved when they read this or not, I was. No Child porn found in Haileys home.


At one point in the investigation, Dunn and Adkins were named persons of interest. Adkins was also named a suspect.

Hailey Dunn vanished from her Colorado City home in December 2010. Earlier this month, the FBI classified her disappearance as a kidnapping


Is the article trying to make it appear LE has stepped back away from Billie as a suspect in this case ? ''at one point"....

Knox
10-15-2011, 12:24 AM
A number of electronic devices were removed from the Colorado City home of the missing 13-year-old's mother as well as the home of a one-time suspect's grandmother in Dunn and mother in Big Spring.

More than stepping away from just Billie, Soul. This reporter makes it sound like they are backing away from Adkins.

Is this just the reporter's spin, or did Toombs give them this impression?

sreshowtime
10-15-2011, 12:40 AM
Well if he isn't a suspect , then why don't they have a blasted news conference and state it as so in public? geesh

Tugela
10-15-2011, 05:36 AM
They never will, even if they don't think he was involved anymore, unless there is compelling proof that he wasn't.

katydid23
10-15-2011, 06:32 AM
Well, He and Billie are off living their new life together now, right? Looks like the heat is off them and they can go about their business. Whoop-dee-dooo :mad:

belimom
10-21-2011, 11:16 PM
I feel as if I have just had the wind knocked out of me. I was obsessed with this case from Day One, until I had to stop for my own sanity. To think that it is 10 months later and nothing has been done is beyond pathetic.

This is why I can't get my hopes up about the whole GJ thing in Lisa Irwin's case... Or even an arrest/charge (think Caylee). :(

sreshowtime
12-13-2011, 05:51 PM
YOO HOO ......LE if you are reading on here, what say you about the purported PORN found on devices related to your POI (s)?? Hmm??? Wassup with that...is there or isn't there and if there is CHILD abuse PORN, then why no arrests yet??

Janeumayer
12-13-2011, 11:13 PM
It is ridiculous! Powell was quickly arrested in his porn case. What's going on here? I think LE dropped the ball BIG TIME.

Soulmagent
12-14-2011, 01:17 AM
So if there was child porn ,the FBI has a foothold on investigating Hailey's case. If they really do not have porn they cannot arrest SA Plus they look awful for saying they did.

I kinda suspect Ccity might have itself in unpleasant position with the issue.

Who thinks it is possible besides me? (not saying it is true only speculation ).

sreshowtime
12-14-2011, 11:05 AM
Yes Soul they may well have spoke too quickly...does really take this long to prove child porn exists??? They should have the round bouncing spheres to admit if they erred.

Evan's Mom
12-14-2011, 11:57 AM
Well, He and Billie are off living their new life together now, right? Looks like the heat is off them and they can go about their business. Whoop-dee-dooo :mad:

I don't want to start rumors, but it's been all over facebook for the last few weeks that Shawn and Billie broke up and he's back in the area near his mom or grandmother.
I've backed off of Hailey's facebook groups lately, so of course with the way things change so quickly in this case, they could be back together by now.

Knox
12-14-2011, 02:10 PM
Let's just say ... Shawn disappeared Hailey. I'm not sure of Billie's involvement, but do not discount the possibility.

How will this play out in the future if they are no longer together? Would one turn on the other, or is it a secret they take to the grave?

ljczec
12-14-2011, 03:30 PM
Let's just say ... Shawn disappeared Hailey. I'm not sure of Billie's involvement, but do not discount the possibility.

How will this play out in the future if they are no longer together? Would one turn on the other, or is it a secret they take to the grave?

I'd say it depends on who dumped who, and how nasty the breakup was. If Shawn dumped Billie, I think she might turn on him. Especially if she can work out some kind of plea deal.

~JMO

Oriah
12-14-2011, 03:57 PM
So if there was child porn ,the FBI has a foothold on investigating Hailey's case. If they really do not have porn they cannot arrest SA Plus they look awful for saying they did.

I kinda suspect Ccity might have itself in unpleasant position with the issue.

Who thinks it is possible besides me? (not saying it is true only speculation ).

You ain't the only one who thinks that, Soul.

Tugela
12-15-2011, 04:25 AM
I'd say it depends on who dumped who, and how nasty the breakup was. If Shawn dumped Billie, I think she might turn on him. Especially if she can work out some kind of plea deal.

~JMO

Why would she need to work out a plea deal when there is no evidence of anything? Remember, that in spite of the shifty nature of everyone involved in the case, there is no evidence at all that anything nefarious happened at the house, or that either SA or BD did anything. HD is just gone. Based on the multiple sightings of her that day and SA's cell call ping timing, the most likely truth is that she left just as he said she did. The window between when he arrived back in CC and when the brother arrived home is just too small for him to have done anything and completely removed all traces of it. If the DA was dumb enough to go to trial with what we know today, that is what the defence attorney would present and the DA would not be able to refute it.

It has allready been established that there wasn't any illegal porn at their house. The only potentially illegal stuff was found on someone else's computer in another town. It would be a massive stretch to tie either SA or BD to any of that, basically it is wishfull thinking and that is no way to conduct an investigation.

There simply isn't any case so what could they possibly be charged with?

ljczec
12-15-2011, 02:46 PM
Why would she need to work out a plea deal when there is no evidence of anything? Remember, that in spite of the shifty nature of everyone involved in the case, there is no evidence at all that anything nefarious happened at the house, or that either SA or BD did anything. HD is just gone. Based on the multiple sightings of her that day and SA's cell call ping timing, the most likely truth is that she left just as he said she did. The window between when he arrived back in CC and when the brother arrived home is just too small for him to have done anything and completely removed all traces of it. If the DA was dumb enough to go to trial with what we know today, that is what the defence attorney would present and the DA would not be able to refute it.

It has allready been established that there wasn't any illegal porn at their house. The only potentially illegal stuff was found on someone else's computer in another town. It would be a massive stretch to tie either SA or BD to any of that, basically it is wishfull thinking and that is no way to conduct an investigation.

There simply isn't any case so what could they possibly be charged with?

I'm sorry, I wasn't really clear on what I meant! What I meant to say is a purely hypothetical situation. If Billie and Shawn had a bad breakup, perhaps she would be vindictive enough to turn him in, producing evidence, or saying where Hailey's body was hidden. A lot of people get very revengeful after a bad breakup. They do lots of crazy things, hoping to ruin their exes life. I was merely speculating that if they parted ways unamicably, I think Billie might try to hurt Shawn further by turning him in. But who knows? Maybe he would do the same to her.

I suppose I'm just wishful thinking that the case might be cracked open before the one year anniversary....but at this point it doesn't look likely at all.

JMO~~~

Knox
12-15-2011, 05:01 PM
ljczec, I understood your hypothetical answer to my hypothetical question, thank you for replying. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

The hunt for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, who was last seen almost a year ago, has dwindled, although her supporters have not given up.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/dec/10/abilene-fundraiser-helps-raise-money-for-hailey/

Sad when we hear about stranger's who appear to care more about Hailey than her own Mother.

Caligram
12-15-2011, 09:25 PM
I keep hoping that some one or some twos will be arrested for something. Anything.
This case should have been solved not long after this beautiful girl "disappeared".

Tugela
12-16-2011, 12:18 AM
I'm sorry, I wasn't really clear on what I meant! What I meant to say is a purely hypothetical situation. If Billie and Shawn had a bad breakup, perhaps she would be vindictive enough to turn him in, producing evidence, or saying where Hailey's body was hidden. A lot of people get very revengeful after a bad breakup. They do lots of crazy things, hoping to ruin their exes life. I was merely speculating that if they parted ways unamicably, I think Billie might try to hurt Shawn further by turning him in. But who knows? Maybe he would do the same to her.

I suppose I'm just wishful thinking that the case might be cracked open before the one year anniversary....but at this point it doesn't look likely at all.

JMO~~~

If she knew something relevant she would have done something about it a long time ago. It is her daughter after all. She remained with him after everything because she didn't believe that he did anything.

Soulmagent
12-16-2011, 12:46 AM
I just worry SA didnt do anything and some other girl might became a victim of the person who did take Hailey.

There are enough issues in media reports to confirm for me that no one truly has a clue ,least of all Pete and his crew.IMO. All they have is case historys and what they think. I also truley believe if they cannot get together the statements and information they wish to portray to the media then pulling a case together is pretty much not going to happen. IMO.

This case might have been able to be solved,most likely if SA was/is the culprit it would have been HAD the investigators not tried to lynch him straight out of the gate. Since they did and he was aware he was a suspect ,any hope of forming any type of trust (or image of it)with the dept failed. Cant say I would trust them either culprit or not.

katydid23
12-16-2011, 12:58 AM
I am thoroughly disgusted by this whole mess of an investigation.

ThoughtFox
12-16-2011, 01:03 AM
I'm sorry, I wasn't really clear on what I meant! What I meant to say is a purely hypothetical situation. If Billie and Shawn had a bad breakup, perhaps she would be vindictive enough to turn him in, producing evidence, or saying where Hailey's body was hidden. A lot of people get very revengeful after a bad breakup. They do lots of crazy things, hoping to ruin their exes life. I was merely speculating that if they parted ways unamicably, I think Billie might try to hurt Shawn further by turning him in. But who knows? Maybe he would do the same to her.

I suppose I'm just wishful thinking that the case might be cracked open before the one year anniversary....but at this point it doesn't look likely at all.

JMO~~~

I think BD has too much self-preservation to ever incriminate herself by cutting a deal against Shawn. She's slithered out of everything so far, and unless and until they find more evidence she won't say a word. So yes, unless she is on her deathbed she won't talk. :twocents:

ETA: Here's the thing - if either of them make a deal, both will still get jail time, so in their minds they are better off not saying anything to incriminate either one. And I doubt they will grow a conscience at this point.

Zoe Bogart
12-16-2011, 07:03 PM
I don't want to start rumors, but it's been all over facebook for the last few weeks that Shawn and Billie broke up and he's back in the area near his mom or grandmother.
I've backed off of Hailey's facebook groups lately, so of course with the way things change so quickly in this case, they could be back together by now.

Well, if that's true, it's a few years too late. Honestly, when are single parents going to learn that their first priority should be their children?