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Harmony2
05-25-2011, 12:30 PM
5/25/11 Afternoon session



Please review this forum thoroughly before posting today:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159

reposting links:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-tivid-casey-anthony-jury-livestream,0,999563.htmlstory

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

logicalgirl
05-25-2011, 01:10 PM
Hi Harmony :seeya: I'm here for a few minutes then out for an hour then back. Going to be a bit grumpy if I miss Toneee.

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:11 PM
Casey is back at the DT table, conferring with JB, no sound on my stream yet.

Mamabear1963
05-25-2011, 01:12 PM
I want to watch Tone too! Can I say I love the SA...methodical...building...building...by first laying a solid foundation.

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:13 PM
casey is grooming jose's suit... no joke

luckyme
05-25-2011, 01:13 PM
shes happy. Guess jury isnt in there yet or she had a awsome lunch!

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:13 PM
We are back !

grammieto5
05-25-2011, 01:13 PM
Well she's all smiles now. I wonder who is going to be the witness?

Nana46
05-25-2011, 01:13 PM
OMg she is dusting off JB"s coat...fuzz maybe?

Tulessa
05-25-2011, 01:14 PM
Thanks Harmony. Welcome back all. I have picture but no sound yet. ;)

BetteDavisEyes
05-25-2011, 01:14 PM
Let's roll!

21merc7
05-25-2011, 01:14 PM
Motion renewal by DT b/c of the next witness, shovel.

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:14 PM
renewal of a motion by Miss Fryer

Mister Burn up next... they want the shovel out

LolaMoon08
05-25-2011, 01:14 PM
What is this about??

Robyn623
05-25-2011, 01:15 PM
Oh goody..another delay while the DT argues to keep the shovel guy off the stand.

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:15 PM
JB has a renewable motion about next witness. Ms Frye is objecting to Mr Burn witness, precluding any testimony on shovel.

They say the testimony is not relevant.

Says it poses a 403 issue, noting case law.

logicalgirl
05-25-2011, 01:15 PM
Oh course has another objection, another motion renewed - Ms Fryer up to argue in limine - re the neighbor Bryan Burner, and his shovel.

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:15 PM
hmmmm

casey borrowed a shovel
casey searched for shovels on the computer


it is related!!!!

Softail
05-25-2011, 01:15 PM
JB - :tears:

Wanting to renew their objection to Brian Burner as irrelevant. Ms. Fryer is arguing.

Camille
05-25-2011, 01:15 PM
How is a shovel not related to burying a body or disposing of a body?

JSR
05-25-2011, 01:15 PM
FYI 403 is a Evidence Code.

Leila
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
Brian Bruner is up next.............

MD MOMMY
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
Haven't we already been over this???

goldleaf
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
DT just agreed ICA was not searching for Caylee

laniefi
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
Grrrrrrr sound is too LOW on CNN

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
not disputing that ICA was NOT looking for her child

logicalgirl
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
Wow, not disputing the fact that ICA was NOT searching for her daughter????

LolaMoon08
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
So because THEY have admitted Caylee was deceased means they do not want the State to be able to prove their case??? Ummmm .... NOT!!

PassTheMotrin
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
I disagree with Ms. Fryer. It IS relevant. :cow:

LoisDenominator
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
Awww, HHCJBP is so cute. He is rooting for a young attorney to offer a good argument. Love him.

Softail
05-25-2011, 01:16 PM
:denied:

ebedeeb
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
HHJP denies DTs shovel objection

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
de- nied!

CementPond
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
Try this.

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/


Grrrrrrr sound is too LOW on CNN

watchinginky
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
:denied:

SuziQ
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
Is practitable a word?

goldleaf
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
So they want Kronk in but the shovel out?

I am in the Twilight Zone

essies
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
Grrrrrrr sound is too LOW on CNN

try this one-
http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/

Blue Jackets fan
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
I will be back in a bit everyone. Keep me up to speed!

momtective
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
WTH! They don't dispute that KC wasn't looking for her daughter...they don't want any mention of that shovel in.

Debbie3223
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
OMG
oh help us GOD PLEASE
smackdown from Heaven would be nice
lol
OF COURSE ITS RELEVANT
UGHHH

luckyme
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
denied!!!

babycat
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
I don't mean this as belittling or patronizing in any way, so I hope it isn't taken that way, but I think Lisbeth is aborable! Very likable.

momtective
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
:denied:

butterfly1978
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
HUH?????? I am confused.... If the state is trying to say Casey used the shovel to move the body it is relevant.

Eidetic
05-25-2011, 01:17 PM
Arguing the shovel is not relevant however, their defense is that Caylee died on the 16th in an accidental drowning and then Casey borrows a shovel. Um... so what did she do with Caylees body?

logicalgirl
05-25-2011, 01:18 PM
Hey I lost my reflector feed! Back to the eagle!!!

imawitch
05-25-2011, 01:18 PM
denied!!!

yup, defense got another smack down...jmho lol

LolaMoon08
05-25-2011, 01:18 PM
I find it funny. Because the defense is claiming that Caylee died accidentally... they do not want any mention of anything that could prove that their client murdered Caylee intentionally?? They really are green.

Softail
05-25-2011, 01:18 PM
It appears that alot of the media is missing. Lots of empty chairs.

Shalya
05-25-2011, 01:18 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6kkH4xekiNo/SpszFXO11pI/AAAAAAAALZU/tL_WWHPhwwE/s400/14813172-02080952.jpg

Remember why we're here!!!

Celt1997
05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
I don't mean this as belittling or patronizing in any way, so I hope it isn't taken that way, but I think Lisbeth is aborable! Very likable.

I concur.

SA talking about the microphones. I thought they sounded bad today, also.

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
hhjp "are you hearing me now" LOL

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
State says this has already been ruled on.

Objection is denied.

Defense previously noted they are not contesting and willing to attest to info.

JB objection being noted again for court.

Mr George we noticed a remarkedly difference audio and could not hear counsel speak, when at podium. Now they can hear fine, wants to know what has changed in the audio set up.

Court sound guy is explaining why the difference.

Mr George asking court to return audio to what it was before.

Now messing with mikes a HHJPs mic is not on.

Now on - stuff.

laniefi
05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

2goldfish
05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
booming baritone LOL

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
omg hhjp is so loud LOL

grammieto5
05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
Is CA in the court room

Oakley
05-25-2011, 01:20 PM
Observation: Casey wears a very different 'face' when the jury is out of the room. She becomes very serious and appears to wear a 'mask' to hide her feelings when they are present. MOO

wenwe4
05-25-2011, 01:20 PM
We are back. . . dT is objecting (motion in limine) and reasserting their motion to preclude any mention of the shovel a Brian Burner is next witness up (neighbor w/shovel)Defense's renewed objection will be denied . . DT says shovel is unrelated to case and predjudicial.
SA: before jury comes in .. .remarkably different audio when counsel @ podium . . rather large echo . . . wasn't here this morning. Audio is fixed . . . HHBP . . .if you want to we can put wireless mikes on. Unfortunately we only have so much money to do what we need to do . . . return the jury.

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:20 PM
yes, GA and CA just walked in

Curious Me
05-25-2011, 01:20 PM
The shovel is in. There was even a computer search for "shovel". Oh, shovel talk makes defense nervous.

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:20 PM
HHJP told the lawyers he could put wireless mics on them all and they would not ever be turned off. LOL

MD MOMMY
05-25-2011, 01:20 PM
It's all about the money...in every way, shape or form...always.

ZsaZsa
05-25-2011, 01:21 PM
Ms Fryer must be a Defense Atty in training, she doesn't know when to take NO for an answer already....

luckyme
05-25-2011, 01:21 PM
OMG! Judge:floorlaugh: is on the rick scott plan.

sleutherontheside
05-25-2011, 01:21 PM
I love when the Judge says.."I'm on the Rick Scott plan."

QueenD
05-25-2011, 01:21 PM
I don't think HHJP likes Rick Scott our Gov.
He mentions "The Rick Scott plan" alot

MD MOMMY
05-25-2011, 01:21 PM
LMAO judge is always worried about how the food is...he is a riot.

Softail
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
State calls Brian Burner

PassTheMotrin
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
Brian Burner - Neighbor she borrowed the shovel from

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
Brian Burner - neighbor lent ICA shovel June 18

Florida Native
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
OMG! Judge:floorlaugh: is on the rick scott plan.

:floorlaugh: Me too HHJP! Me too. :floorlaugh:

ZsaZsa
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
Here comes Brian Burner- at last we see a face to match the name we know so well>>

zoey
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
I love how he takes care of the jury....

mitzi
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
Now I can hardly hear Mr. George!

pinkfly
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
Quick Question: JB presented GA as being a major player in the drowning scenario. So when GA say no that did not happen doesnít that severely damage the whole story? Changing the details to not include GA lifting baby out would also damage story. Jury has to be left wondering why GA would say it didnít happen if it could save his daughter.

krt
05-25-2011, 01:22 PM
OMg she is dusting off JB"s coat...fuzz maybe?

I was thinking more along the lines of dusting off BS..............

luckyme
05-25-2011, 01:23 PM
Do the anthonys still live in the house on hope spring?

January.
05-25-2011, 01:23 PM
Ugh I can hardly hear anything!

Debbie3223
05-25-2011, 01:23 PM
booming baritone LOL

LOL
AND BTW
that row of pics is interesting
my my.. lookin ruff in the last 2...
bad...ugh...lol

grammieto5
05-25-2011, 01:23 PM
I don't see any buttons after eveyone else's post to say thanks????

MD MOMMY
05-25-2011, 01:23 PM
BB is a big ole' teddy bear. Love him already.

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:24 PM
Do the anthonys still live in the house on hope spring?

yes indeed

momtective
05-25-2011, 01:24 PM
Brian Burner
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/Anthony%20Trial%20Day%202/traildayone39.jpg

essies
05-25-2011, 01:24 PM
Do the anthonys still live in the house on hope spring?

yes as far as we know!

MD MOMMY
05-25-2011, 01:24 PM
His kids are 21, 16 and 10 years old.

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:25 PM
I don't see any buttons after eveyone else's post to say thanks????

yes, but after I post I have to refresh to reactivate the one's after my post (if that makes sense)

STEADFAST
05-25-2011, 01:25 PM
I don't see any buttons after eveyone else's post to say thanks????
That's happened to me before. Try refreshing the page.

Kat
05-25-2011, 01:25 PM
I have good sound on CNN live link.

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream2

sleutherontheside
05-25-2011, 01:25 PM
He is a truck driver. What a hard job. I hate driving.

butterfly1978
05-25-2011, 01:25 PM
I am about tired of all the commercials on insession......BUT if I try and watch it on my puter I lose track on the thread,,,,, UGGGG

watchinginky
05-25-2011, 01:25 PM
Why is CNN only showing KC?? I'm tired of looking at her.

Eidetic
05-25-2011, 01:25 PM
I don't see any buttons after eveyone else's post to say thanks????

They'll show up in a moment. :fence:

MsBashterd
05-25-2011, 01:26 PM
Wait who is this guy?? Brain fart plus I had to mute for a moment freakin job.

mitzi
05-25-2011, 01:26 PM
BB is a big ole' teddy bear. Love him already.

I wish I could see him...CNN has planted themselves <modsnip>

lib's mom
05-25-2011, 01:26 PM
HHJP told the lawyers he could put wireless mics on them all and they would not ever be turned off. LOL

I'm picturing JB and CM wearing mike pacs like pop stars and McDonald's drive-thru workers wear. I like that picture. And after this trial I wouldn't be surprised if either JB's or CM's next job involves a drive-thru and the phrase "Would you like fries with that? Please pull around to the first window!"

tiredofthis
05-25-2011, 01:26 PM
Saw Casey's car backing into the garage on June 17.

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:26 PM
Ugh I can hardly hear anything!
Try using ear buds from any media player. Mine all work on my laptop and it makes it much easier. Good Luck !

SleuthyMama
05-25-2011, 01:27 PM
Wait who is this guy?? Brain fart plus I had to mute for a moment freakin job.

Brian Burner, the neighbor she borrowed the shovel from.

cluciano63
05-25-2011, 01:27 PM
Now IS is bleeping out "penis"...give me a break...it is a body part, folks.

butterfly1978
05-25-2011, 01:27 PM
Not nearly as many people in here today as yesterday.

Sparky
05-25-2011, 01:27 PM
WFTV great sound for me.

Celt1997
05-25-2011, 01:27 PM
Now IS is bleeping out "penis"...give me a break...it is a body part, folks.

And the correct term for it, at that.

tiredofthis
05-25-2011, 01:28 PM
On June 18 Casey asked him if she could borrow a shovel.

CementPond
05-25-2011, 01:28 PM
Same here:

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/


WFTV great sound for me.

Rallihanna
05-25-2011, 01:28 PM
Are all stations hard to hear? I'm on the Fox link.

MsBashterd
05-25-2011, 01:28 PM
Brian Burner, the neighbor she borrowed the shovel from.

Thank You for some reason I thought he was older gentleman. See what happens when their is an open lunch bar @ the Side Bar Cafe :crazy:

believe09
05-25-2011, 01:28 PM
The shovel leads people to believe that Casey intended to bury her daughter right in the Anthony's backyard. As if killing Caylee in the first place wasnt enough of a knife, dumping her body there is something else. Doesnt it chill you?

She likely broke a nail and returned shovel to BB and Caylee to the trunk. :(

momtective
05-25-2011, 01:29 PM
Not nearly as many people in here today as yesterday.

I thin most people are just disgusted by what the defense did yesterday and they really don't want to hear any more.

Moe
05-25-2011, 01:29 PM
Boo , I wanted TonE...

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:29 PM
picture of shovel in garage

is that your shovel

yes

eileenhawkeye
05-25-2011, 01:29 PM
Not nearly as many people in here today as yesterday.

Maybe a lot of casual followers just tuned in for the opening statements?

katydid23
05-25-2011, 01:29 PM
Why is CNN only showing KC?? I'm tired of looking at her.

WFTV shows TWO camera views side by side. One of ICA and the other cuts back and forth between the other parties.

Celt1997
05-25-2011, 01:30 PM
Is the purpose of noting previous objections only to setup the appeal?

Eidetic
05-25-2011, 01:30 PM
I am about tired of all the commercials on insession......BUT if I try and watch it on my puter I lose track on the thread,,,,, UGGGG

Here's my setup:
http://i53.tinypic.com/34ouf6x.jpg


The link I use (I also alternate between muting/unmuting this link and InSession):
http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

KMouse
05-25-2011, 01:30 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Casey-Brian-burner-0319.pdf

Brian Burner's deposition

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092308brianburner/indexGallery.htm

July 30, 2008 LE interview

momtective
05-25-2011, 01:30 PM
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/Anthony%20Trial%20Day%202/traildayone40.jpg

January.
05-25-2011, 01:30 PM
Are all stations hard to hear? I'm on the Fox link.

CNN was awfully quiet for me. I'm now using the link CementPond posted and it's much better, plus not transfixed on KC's face constantly: http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/

UESwifey
05-25-2011, 01:30 PM
I am seriously concerned that Baez has so confused the jury with his crazy stories and multiple accusations that there will be doubt in the jurors minds just for that alone. I'm very concerned.

Eye Wonder
05-25-2011, 01:31 PM
Why does Baez keep objecting to the same thing over and over even though it was already overruled every time?

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:31 PM
why r u borrowing a shovel if your father is taking care of the body>?

jb has got to ask,

were you there when ica dug up the bamboo?

and hhjp MUST sustain the objection

he MUST

mitzi
05-25-2011, 01:31 PM
I thin most people are just disgusted by what the defense did yesterday and they really don't want to hear any more.

I wonder if all 50 seats for the public are filled today...anyone know?

Marple
05-25-2011, 01:31 PM
She's rivited. Moving her head back and forth like she's watching a tennis match.

Soulmagent
05-25-2011, 01:31 PM
Quick Question: JB presented GA as being a major player in the drowning scenario. So when GA say no that did not happen doesnít that severely damage the whole story? Changing the details to not include GA lifting baby out would also damage story. Jury has to be left wondering why GA would say it didnít happen if it could save his daughter.

The alledged sex abuse.

Maybe he didnt want her body looked at for some reason. If I was on the jury and didnt knw much about the case. I would wonder.

Dr.Fessel
05-25-2011, 01:31 PM
I think she borrowed the shovel to get a look inside his shed, see if he had any gas she could steal.

laniefi
05-25-2011, 01:32 PM
Why does Baez keep objecting to the same thing over and over even though it was already overruled every time?

Because he likes the sound of his own voice...

Marple
05-25-2011, 01:32 PM
I am seriously concerned that Baez has so confused the jury with his crazy stories and multiple accusations that there will be doubt in the jurors minds just for that alone. I'm very concerned.

There are some smart jurors in the group, with leadership qualities, IMO. They will be good at focusing the others on the case and actual evidence presented.

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:32 PM
it takes an hour to dig up a bamboo shoot?

Marple
05-25-2011, 01:33 PM
it takes an hour to dig up a bamboo shoot?

It takes dynamite to dig up a bamboo shoot!

butterfly1978
05-25-2011, 01:34 PM
Here's my setup:
http://i53.tinypic.com/34ouf6x.jpg


The link I use (I also alternate between muting/unmuting this link and InSession):
http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

I dunno how to do that.

laura08
05-25-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm on CNN and I can't hear it is low. I cant understand a word.

Harmony2
05-25-2011, 01:34 PM
I posted several links on the first page of the thread.. If you are encountering problems with audio maybe one of the other links would work better...

mitzi
05-25-2011, 01:34 PM
WFTV shows TWO camera views side by side. One of ICA and the other cuts back and forth between the other parties.

Wish I could watch WFTV cuz sound is GREAT....but sadly...the last couple of weeks WFTV freezes on me or skips words. :(

wenwe4
05-25-2011, 01:34 PM
SA calling Brian B. (Audio is now really bad on CNN) sound much better on IS . . . BB works as truck driver 24 years, wife, son 21, son 16, daughter 10. His kids aren't good friends with kc or LA. Week of June 16, 2008 . . . took a vacation returned home evening of 16th, not scheduled to work until following monday off all week, home on 6/17 - saw kc vehicle backing into the garage, white sunfire, never saw anyone else drive that car during this period. He saw her thru a window from inside his house, car pulled into garage . . he could see front end go into garage from their window. He never saw that car go into the garage before, he didn't leave home during that time . . no recollection of the car leaving . . he was home on 6/18 doing yardwork outside by himself, saw kc approached him later in afternoon around 1:20 or 1:30 wanting to borrow a shovel to dig up a bamboo root. Picture of shovel on monitor as well as pic of his garage . . that is his shovel he loaned to kc. Entered into evidence #I, noted previous objections . . . overruled.

When KC approached re: borrow shovel he was in street, walked around to North side of his house to his shed to give the shovel . . no timeframe given how long she needed it . . we both walked out to the front, she walked into the garage. He finished blowing grass clippings in front . . . he didn't see kc while he was cleaning up and putting equipment away . . .he walked half way across the yard and saw garage was open . . told son kc borrowed shovel . . went to take a shower . . . kc knocked on door about an hour after he lent her shovel. Doesn't remember if she was wearing same clothes, opened door and set it in garage. Didn't see kc leave that afternoon. Car was there backed into the garage . . . saw kc's car one other time on 19th or 20th doesn't recall . . .early afternoon between 12 -3, (previously borrowed shovel around 1:30). jump ahead to 19th or 20th he was on the couch in living room, saw car backed into garage . . doesn't know how long car stayed there.

redcar1
05-25-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm shocked the defense didn't try to PULL this neighbor into it by saying he helped bury the body!!!! The defense is grasping at straws here... Kudos to GA for being as strong as he is to not break down or lose it yesterday!
JB had his Johnny Cochran moment yesterday, now let's stop with the fairy tales and get to the truth for Caylee!

JMO

butterfly1978
05-25-2011, 01:35 PM
I hope they ask Mr. Burns if he heard anything like George Yelling at Casey on the 16th, or possbly hear the baby drowning in the pool.

shellsbells
05-25-2011, 01:35 PM
Same here:

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/

Thanks, this one is way better sound-wise for me than CNN.

luckyme
05-25-2011, 01:35 PM
it takes an hour to dig up a bamboo shoot?

A bamboo shoot was the farthest thing from caseys mind. I dont think she cared about the bamboo growing in the yard. She was gonna bury the baby in the back yard to spite her parents. I think she decided it would be too hard so she just dumped her at the so called pet cemetary. chilling!! moo

stilettos
05-25-2011, 01:35 PM
I thin most people are just disgusted by what the defense did yesterday and they really don't want to hear any more.

Can I get a big AMEN on that?:maddening::loser:

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:36 PM
I posted several links on the first page of the thread.. If you are encountering problems with audio maybe one of the other links would work better...

wdbo is working gud 4 me

Sparky
05-25-2011, 01:36 PM
I dunno how to do that.

Open 2 Browsers. Internet Explorer and Firefox for a pc.

For Mac open Safari and Firefox.

smart blonde
05-25-2011, 01:36 PM
Backed car into garage:

1st time: June 17th (day after Caylee was last seen)

2nd time: June 18th (ICA also borrowed neighbor's shovel this time)

3rd time: June 20th (later that evening was the 'Hot Body Contest' w/ ICA in blue dress).

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:36 PM
just a question... why isn't LDB asking the questions? do they take turns...?

strawberry
05-25-2011, 01:36 PM
Why does Baez keep objecting to the same thing over and over even though it was already overruled every time?

Doesn't sound like a good idea. First it makes him look incompetent, second it shows he really thinks it's important to get it sustained and calls attention to it.

krimekat
05-25-2011, 01:37 PM
I think she borrowed the shovel to get a look inside his shed, see if he had any gas she could steal.

I think TonE was with her when she broke into the shed & took the gas cans on 24 Jun . . . broke the lock

KMouse
05-25-2011, 01:37 PM
I hope they ask Mr. Burns if he heard anything like George Yelling at Casey on the 16th, or possbly hear the baby drowning in the pool.

Good question. You would think with a child drowning in the yard it would attract some attention.

ARGH. The questions wasn't asked. :banghead:

SevenSeas
05-25-2011, 01:37 PM
ICA has the pouty mouth again.... he's hitting a nerve

21merc7
05-25-2011, 01:38 PM
just a question... why isn't LDB asking the questions? do they take turns...?

Yes, I think that each attorney will stick with diff areas that are going to happen during the 8 weeks or more.

luvmy4brats
05-25-2011, 01:39 PM
I hope they ask Mr. Burns if he heard anything like George Yelling at Casey on the 16th, or possbly hear the baby drowning in the pool.

He just stated that he returned from vacation on June 16th.. He possibly wasn't home to hear any of this.

marlame
05-25-2011, 01:39 PM
I'm on CNN and I can't hear it is low. I cant understand a word.

Try this link: http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx
:woohoo: Sound is good!

Plumeria5
05-25-2011, 01:39 PM
Did anybody else see Casey's worried look when the neighbor was talking about her car backed into the garage?

JB will probably say GA threatened Casey if she didn't get that bamboo shoot out of his yard! :banghead:

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:39 PM
Grilling witness on dates of his statements. First statement to LE then going to LE office......... etc. ??????

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:40 PM
...Jose is trying to disupute the dates - saying that LE somehow influenced his statement

Wise Old Owl
05-25-2011, 01:40 PM
Good question. You would think with a child drowning in the yard it would attract some attention.

ARGH. The questions wasn't asked. :banghead:
The State has to prove THEIR case. By asking questions (even if to disprove) about the DT's outrageous claims tends to give some credence to that theory. The State will not touch the DT's claims with a 10 foot pole.

Does that make any sense?

LolaMoon08
05-25-2011, 01:40 PM
Did anybody else see Casey's worried look when the neighbor was talking about her car backed into the garage?

JB will probably say GA threatened Casey if she didn't get that bamboo shoot out of his yard! :banghead:

It is all part of the script George gave Casey!! :banghead:

KMouse
05-25-2011, 01:40 PM
just a question... why isn't LDB asking the questions? do they take turns...?

I am assuming that they each have their witnesses to question. They would have each gone over that witnesses testimony so that they are very familiar with what was said in previous statements etc. I read a couple of the books that came out after the OJ trial and that's how they did it.

Amster
05-25-2011, 01:40 PM
What is the point of this, JB?

kinsey milhoune
05-25-2011, 01:41 PM
Ok, the defense is trying to discredit every SA witness, eventually the jurors have to realize that not every dang witness is a liar!! GEEZ!

Amster
05-25-2011, 01:41 PM
The guys son was home. Anybody ask the son the date? Day?

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:42 PM
What is the point of this, JB?

trying to say the guy:
1) doesn't know how she parks
2) cannot remember the exact dates
3) nothing amiss with the shovel

etc...

(trying to discredit everything he just testified to)

KMouse
05-25-2011, 01:42 PM
The State has to prove THEIR case. By asking questions (even if to disprove) about the DT's outrageous claims tends to give some credence to that theory. The State will not touch the DT's claims with a 10 foot pole.

Does that make any sense?

It does but I think this would have been a relevant question just as "were you present in the home when Caylee drowned". Just to let the jury know that this supposed drowning scenario went unnoticed by any neighbors.

Celt1997
05-25-2011, 01:42 PM
Ok, the defense is trying to discredit every SA witness, eventually the jurors have to realize that not every dang witness is a liar!! GEEZ!

Take heart, though. These witnesses are purely defining a timeline. The witnesses that will prove guilt are the ones yet to come, the experts.

gibby207
05-25-2011, 01:42 PM
Ok, the defense is trying to discredit every SA witness, eventually the jurors have to realize that not every dang witness is a liar!! GEEZ!

I know!! Everyone's a liar!! It's a conspiracy!! The World Against Casey Anthony!! lol

drip~drop
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
:maddening:

I have so much to catch up on!
BAD weather!
Meanie puter!
:cry:

.....Just had to do this on day 2. :cry:
:banghead:

ebedeeb
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
Good question. You would think with a child drowning in the yard it would attract some attention.

ARGH. The questions wasn't asked. :banghead:

although IIRC, BB just testified that he got home on the eve of the 16th. so by that he wouldnt have been home to know.

momtective
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
When KC borrowed the shovel from you....
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/Anthony%20Trial%20Day%202/traildayone42.jpg

zoey
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
anyone notice the audience and all the shuffling and rubbing of eyes they are doing while jb is asking...more like hurry up.....

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
JB trying to discount witness Burner testimony. Asking Burner if he's a nosy neighbor, did he watch out for ICAs car, etc.

Asking Burner about ICAs appearance when she returned the shovel - what she looked like, sweaty etc.


Asking Burner if he saw what ICA did with shovel.

Stating that Burner cannot offer any speculation about what ICA did with shovel and Burner says correct.

LolaMoon08
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
Good job JB, you just basically admitted that Casey did not borrow the shovel to dig up bamboo shoots.

strawberry
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
Can someone clarify...was MK the girl ICA was dancing with in the blue dress and NG would say "grinding"? Had a teal belly shirt? Or was it a different dancing picture?

bobloblaw
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
That will be the last time he lends any neighbours his tools LOL

miimaa
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
What did she borrow the shovel for Jose? Couldn't have dug up roots to protect baby feet since baby already dead. Now he's implying she borrowed it to break into shed.

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:43 PM
when she gave you the shovel back, she didnt look muddy or sweaty?

then jb says you dont know if she was trying to get into the shed?

where did that come from?

Curious Me
05-25-2011, 01:44 PM
JB has said the word shovel a thousand times. He drilled the word into the jurors. Stupid questioning by JB.

butterfly1978
05-25-2011, 01:44 PM
Ok, the defense is trying to discredit every SA witness, eventually the jurors have to realize that not every dang witness is a liar!! GEEZ!

Don't ya know that Casey is so famous and disliked that everyone in the world is trying to frame her... The whole world is against her.:loser:

shellsbells
05-25-2011, 01:44 PM
It sounded like JB was trying to imply that KC used the shovel to break into the shed (to steal gas cans?)

Marple
05-25-2011, 01:44 PM
I had to laugh at JB's physical description of Corp Edwards. I don't see the point other than, hey, he sounds hot! :)

sleutherontheside
05-25-2011, 01:44 PM
I don't talk to some of my neighbors but I can tell you how the cars in the driveways are parked. It's called paying attention to your surroundings.

wenwe4
05-25-2011, 01:44 PM
He talked to GA during July . . . he saw cop cars outside didn't speak to anyone @ house about what going on @ house. When he saw kc on 6/18 no mention of Caylee missing, needing help, nor anything was wrong, not upset/angry/sad/depressed/happy . . . just normal.
Never saw pontiac in driveway with another car.

Cross:
JB: Media began July 17th . . you saw police cars on 16th . . do you recall you gave statement on 7/17
A: I thought it was a Thursday . . .
JB when you spoke to LE you didn't know the date . . around the 16th . . .called into Sheriff's office on 7/30 - corp. Edwards(?) (JB describing height/weight hair of Corporal)
spoke w/them, gave them dates, close your eyes to remember date . . .time passes you start to remember things . . .(agree to an extent)
JB: memory like everyone else it gets worse as time goes on right?
A" yes
JB as time passed you thought about it and reflected on actual dates . . . when kc borrowed shovel your were outside, her car backed in - never seen before (backed in), didnt make it a habit to watch kc's comings & goings, not a nosy neighbor , you don't know how kc parks her car everyday
a: correct.
JB after she borrowed shovel it was in the mid day , shovel wasn't muddy, she didn't look sweaty like she had been digging a ditch . .
A . . . not that I recall
JB you don't know if she was trying to use that shovel to get into that shed . . have you ever seen the A's have shovel
A No
JB you don't know what kc did with that shovel.

redirect: interview w/Det Edwards close your eyes to picture events when you saw car in driveway . . . you saw a pickup truck
A yea wasn't sure if it was that vehicle . . .I looked out window & saw kc and didn't think anything of it but that was day the gas cans were taken . . . there was male but I didnt see anyone else, heard them speaking but couldn't understand what they were saying.

wvjules
05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
If she was digging up a root wouldn't the shovel be dirty and she be sweaty? The only explanation for it NOT being dirty is because she was trying to clean up after herself (burying Caylee).

Or do I have my dates all wrong?

gitana1
05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
People don't generally back into their garages unless they are loading something, JB. And his attempts to discredit him by pointing out that he did not know what was happening in the backyard are silly.

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
I know!! Everyone's a liar!! It's a conspiracy!! The World Against Casey Anthony!! lol

...well, it is now

Linda7NJ
05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
Can he ask...Did you hear on the 16 George screaming and Casey crying and crying?

shellsbells
05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
She only borrowed the shovel to verify all she learned from Wikipedia. :)

butterfly1978
05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
Who is that guy questioning Mr. b I have seen him befor but cant recall who he is

MelissaLee
05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
JB's questioning made no sense. He seemed to suggest Det. Edwards influenced BB's recollection of dates, and then stated BB had no idea what KC did w the shovel once she took it into the backyard. Also seemed to hint that perhaps BB is a little creepy - that maybe he watched KCs activities unduly.

I have to say that with as close as houses are built here in FL, I sometimes mistake a car that is pulling into one of my neighbors' houses is pulling up to MY house, and I look. Totally normal.

Sparky
05-25-2011, 01:46 PM
Can someone clarify...was MK the girl ICA was dancing with in the blue dress and NG would say "grinding"? Had a teal belly shirt? Or was it a different dancing picture?

MK testified she was not in the hot body contest. Is that the one you are referring to?

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:46 PM
What did she borrow the shovel for Jose? Couldn't have dug up roots to protect baby feet since baby already dead. Now he's implying she borrowed it to break into shed.

But remember that we have witness testimony of TonE who broke the lock with a brick...........tehheeee teeeehhhhhheeeeee

Eidetic
05-25-2011, 01:46 PM
I would have loved to have seen her reaction if he had walked with her, grabbed the shovel and asked her to point out the root so he could help her.

mikeysmommom
05-25-2011, 01:47 PM
Is it me or does ICA look guilty and getting paler as they talk about shovel?

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:47 PM
jose now trying to blast the guy's memory


(I can remember what I ate for lunch five years ago jose!)

Curious Me
05-25-2011, 01:47 PM
In the first week of her daughter dying in a pool accident that she never told anyone about, ICA borrowed a SHOVEL.

shellsbells
05-25-2011, 01:47 PM
This is really frustrating. Using the DT's logic there would be no witnessess to anything ever.

KMouse
05-25-2011, 01:47 PM
although IIRC, BB just testified that he got home on the eve of the 16th. so by that he wouldnt have been home to know.

None of those young male roomies were ever at the Anthony home but they were asked if they were present at "the drowning".

Question, if somebody remembers, what time did this supposed drowning happen and what time did Cindy work until that night and what time was ICA back at Tony's? Just wondering how much of a window the defense has to work with for their work of fiction.

strawberry
05-25-2011, 01:47 PM
MK testified she was not in the hot body contest. Is that the one you are referring to?

Yes thank you. Some people were posting they thought she was in a pic dancing with ICA but I didn't recall that being the fact.

21merc7
05-25-2011, 01:47 PM
Don't ya know that Casey is so famous and disliked that everyone in the world is trying to frame her... The whole world is against her.:loser:

Yeah, maybe should of thought about that before JB thought he had an OJ trial. OJ was loved by all of America, adults and children. KC is no one special. Lol.

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
It sounded like JB was trying to imply that KC used the shovel to break into the shed (to steal gas cans?)

he DID

thats what he said

sa should have objected, imo

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
BB is very firm and certain of his answers... Jose is beating a dead horse....

kathyn2
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
Come on. Move ahead. This is dull. Why is JB going on and on about the guy with the shovel???

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
I would have loved to have seen her reaction if he had walked with her, grabbed the shovel and asked her to point out the root so he could help her.

My DH would have totally done that.

sleutherontheside
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
Stupid me....why did I borrow a shovel??

15744

kinsey milhoune
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
Is it me or does ICA look guilty and getting paler as they talk about shovel?

I was just going to post how HORRIBLE she looks today, she is going downhill fast!

January.
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
JB is pulling the same crap he did yesterday with George and Caylee's outfit. Some people DO remember unimportant things, Baez.

Dr.Fessel
05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
The house would be to the right of this door. LOL LOL stupid question.

trigger
05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
Burner..Casey asked to borrow a shovel on 6/18/08. She never asked to borrow anything before. She did not tell him how long she needed it for.She returned it an hour later. He saw CA car was backed into the garage when she borrowed the shovel. He didnt talk to GA or Cindy about the police at the house. Casey did not tell him her daughter was missing.

ebedeeb
05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
I had to laugh at JB's physical description of Corp Edwards. I don't see the point other than, hey, he sounds hot! :)

Im guessing we are going to hear lots of JB's descriptions of physical characteristics of LE, as he is trying to paint them as Big, Bad, Intimidators.

Wrong witness to use that for though IMO, not effective.

Harmony2
05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
Is it me or does ICA look guilty and getting paler as they talk about shovel?

Probably because she realized she missed covering it in her drowning scenario... ooops

ohiogirl
05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
Does the direction make a difference? What is the point?>

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
Come on. Move ahead. This is dull. Why is JB going on and on about the guy with the shovel???

because he does not want this in there.... didn't even want jurors to hear the word shovel

it ties back to computer searches and ties in solidly to the state's case

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
MK testified she was not in the hot body contest. Is that the one you are referring to?

yes she did.

too bad, imo.

(sorry)

bobloblaw
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
why doesn't he refer to East/West instead of Left/Right? <modsnip>...

Sparky
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
JB is boring me.

LolaMoon08
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
he DID

thats what he said

sa should have objected, imo

Tony's testimony will refute that... just shows how far Jose is reaching and has no concept of the actual timeline of events.

sleutherontheside
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
JB sounds like he's teaching square dancing.....to the right to the left straght ahead through the door.

cluciano63
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
How stupid to borrow a shovel...
I am almost afraid it could play into defense theory that she was so much in another world about all of this (Caylee's "accidental death") that it would never have occurred to her that a shovel could be incriminating. I mean, it is pretty dumb to borrow a shovel from a neighbor if your child is missing...

watergirl
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
pardon me while i go set my head on fire. brb

Curious Me
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
In the first week of her daughter dying in a pool accident that she never told anyone about, ICA kept going back to the house. She was backing her car up into the garage area. She borrowed a shovel. Same girl that later that week was in a Hot Body Contest.

This is what the jurors are learning.

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
what I love is that BB already rung the bell: SHOVEL

cannot unring the bell

Bon
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
Is it me or does ICA look guilty and getting paler as they talk about shovel?

I'm seeing the exact same thing....might as well have GUILTY written on her forehead right now...her face says it all.............

eileenhawkeye
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
I think Baez just likes to hear about the media coverage to boost his ego

kathyn2
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
Now JB blame the media. He blames everyone but the real murderer Casey

momtective
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
JB jumping around like a jack-rabbit.

mitzi
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
I had to laugh at JB's physical description of Corp Edwards. I don't see the point other than, hey, he sounds hot! :)

Yeah...what was up with that? Trying to say that BB was afraid of BB and therefore gave wrong dates? I can't figure this out.

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
JB stumbling all over the place with questions about where windows are in Burner's house, how his house is positioned in relation to the A's house, and it is glaringly apparent that JB was not prepared for this witness.

If he had been, he would have had a picture or diagram of the relation of homes to each other to try and prove what Burner could or could not see.

Now JB wants to ask about Media trucks in front of Burners house, SA objects, it is sustained.

shellsbells
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
he DID

thats what he said

sa should have objected, imo

Yeah, I'm curious about these objections, I wonder if it's a matter of just giving the defense enough rope to hang themselves? I hope so.

luckyme
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
Did one of the cadaver dogs hit by the play area? I think she backed that car up and was going to bury her there. Even took the body over there. I have a hard time digging holes in my yard. I have my teenage boys do it. I think it was too hard. She never did bury her just dumped her. moo

kinsey milhoune
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
Waste of time by JB, he proved nothing!

Shyla
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
sure the anthony's have shovels. so if GA was covering up a drowning wouldn't he use his own...DUH!!!!

gitana1
05-25-2011, 01:51 PM
JB tries to discredit witnesses about things that are not relevant to his defense. Sign of an inexperienced attorney.

21merc7
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
JB: It was my last question your honor.

Is that a free pass to ask an objected to question?

Eye Wonder
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
Baez needs to just sit down...

TigerBalm
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
JB sit down already ................ thank you!

costalpilot
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
Stupid me....why did I borrow a shovel??

15744

well, according to your atty, jose baez, you borrowed the shovel to break into the shed

on another day

chasing.halos
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
LOL
State: Objection, relevance
JB: It's my last question Judge
SUSTAINED.

QueenD
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
So did she google shovel to see what one looked like?

sleutherontheside
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
It would relate to this witnesses knowledge of the facts Judge.


WTH is he trying to say???

Tiki
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
JB's response to objection
"it's my last question"
huh?

LolaMoon08
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
In the first week of her daughter dying in a pool accident that she never told anyone about, ICA kept going back to the house. She was backing her car up into the garage area. She borrowed a shovel. Same girl that later that week was in a Hot Body Contest.

This is what the jurors are learning.

Exactly!!! Why would Casey even step foot back in that house if her precious daughter died and her awful father was covering up the crime and framing her?? Makes no sense!

nursebeeme
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
good job BB! (witness excused)

next up is James newlander

(sidebar of course for jose)

IRule254
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
A bamboo shoot was the farthest thing from caseys mind. I dont think she cared about the bamboo growing in the yard. She was gonna bury the baby in the back yard to spite her parents. I think she decided it would be too hard so she just dumped her at the so called pet cemetary. chilling!! moo

Yep -this!
I am laughing in my mind right now thinking about ICA doing yard work of any type.

BetteDavisEyes
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
JB is incompetence personified.

ohiogirl
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
That was fruitful, not.

MelissaLee
05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
ANOTHER sidebar. :/

Linda7NJ
05-25-2011, 01:53 PM
are jurors taking notes? hmmmm making a timeline? anyone getting tweeted info?

sleutherontheside
05-25-2011, 01:53 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhh Jamie Realander.....

The State is throwing JB off big time today.

GennyMac
05-25-2011, 01:53 PM
And we have another sidebar about the next witness - yes, it was called by JB.

Softail
05-25-2011, 01:53 PM
JB :tears: about the next witness. Sidebar

gibby207
05-25-2011, 01:53 PM
JB is boring me.

Do you notice in the background of the courtroom when SA is up and questioning witnesses the audience is paying attention, and when Mr. Baez comes up they are all staring at their feet, playing with their pencils, basically ignoring. LOL

BigFatMommyDog
05-25-2011, 01:53 PM
How stupid to borrow a shovel...
I am almost afraid it could play into defense theory that she was so much in another world about all of this (Caylee's "accidental death") that it would never have occurred to her that a shovel could be incriminating. I mean, it is pretty dumb to borrow a shovel from a neighbor if your child is missing...

Especially as his magic picture showed there's a shovel standing in the garage - IMHO she engaged him specifically for some reason or alibi (that I can't quite figure out-maybe just that she was caring for CAylee...)