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ynotdivein
05-25-2011, 11:24 PM
PLEASE review this forum thoroughly before posting today:


:tos: Here they are!

The mods noticed an unusual number of posts yesterday that were:

- bashing the defendant's looks or grooming, in words or through visual images

- using derogatory or demeaning terms to refer to players in this case

- snarky to fellow WSers

- otherwise sending the thread off-topic.

These were not one-off problems. We posted numerous polite requests to obey the TOS and rules of etiquette that every WebSleuther agreed to when they signed on as a member of this site. And still, the problems persisted.

THIS IS ONLY DAY THREE, PEOPLE.

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beach
05-26-2011, 07:01 AM
I would advise reading the opening post carefully.

beach
05-26-2011, 08:47 AM
Opening for posting of live feed links in 5 minutes.

The OP says it all. Please post responsibly. Enough said.

Chiquita71
05-26-2011, 08:55 AM
WESH: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-ex...teractive.html


WFTV:http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

Click Orlando:http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

FOX:http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

Media player:http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


WFTVTV sound http://player.streamtheworld.com/_pl...allsign=WFTVTV

CNN http://live.cnn.com/

galerie
05-26-2011, 08:56 AM
I hope LDB or Jeff does the questioning today

jmfstl
05-26-2011, 08:57 AM
ICA came in and gave one of her attorneys (the woman don't know her name) a crumpled piece of paper. I think she has been making notes in her cell.

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 08:57 AM
Dorothy comments that "that's the problem"....


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strawberry
05-26-2011, 08:58 AM
I watched some of the trial yesterday after work and thought FG did a perfectly acceptable job. Couldn't figure out what all the criticism was about. IMO

strawberry
05-26-2011, 08:59 AM
Does anyone else think the DT was hoping by admitting ICA's lies the State would not bring them all forth like they're doing anyway?

Quiche
05-26-2011, 08:59 AM
What is up with their table! My goodness, it looks like they didn't go home...

darnudes
05-26-2011, 08:59 AM
Okay all, looks like court is in session. ICA looks well and roaring to go, defense team are talking lots to ICA. Sims is doing the mother hen job on ICA, lots of tender care there.

Tulessa
05-26-2011, 08:59 AM
I sure hope B.S. behaves himself today! :floorlaugh:

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 09:00 AM
JA looks like he's preparing...let's hope!

BigFatMommyDog
05-26-2011, 09:00 AM
and we on

zoey
05-26-2011, 09:00 AM
is it just CA there w/o GA????

Jomo
05-26-2011, 09:00 AM
The judge is walking in and he doesn't look like he is in a good mood, frowning as he entered.

truthsleuth
05-26-2011, 09:00 AM
Does anyone else think the DT was hoping by admitting ICA's lies the State would not bring them all forth like they're doing anyway?

I'm sure of it. "We'll say she lied and they'll drop it!" No, Jose. Doesn't work like that.

The Prosecution is doing a great job so far. They are extremely methodical and determined to prove their case. They will, I am certain.

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:01 AM
Primpring for TOny.

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bobloblaw
05-26-2011, 09:02 AM
Why do I have to keep signing into the forum? Is there a problem with the forum or my computer? Thanks

Wholehearted
05-26-2011, 09:02 AM
Are GA & CA in the court room? Haven't noticed them but I might have missed something.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:02 AM
Good Morning paisano Tony

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:02 AM
Casey is breathing heavily after TL's entrance.

CuriousG
05-26-2011, 09:02 AM
I hope TLs lavender tie is a tribute to Caylee.

Melanie
05-26-2011, 09:03 AM
Thank you. It seems if you have a different opinion than the majority, and dare express it, you get slammed. I know that's what WS's is not about. Made me very very sad :(

MOO

Mel

sarah1215
05-26-2011, 09:03 AM
Why do I have to keep signing into the forum? Is there a problem with the forum or my computer? Thanks

It does that to me too, not sure why?

BigFatMommyDog
05-26-2011, 09:03 AM
Wow 1 minute in and Sustained

beach
05-26-2011, 09:03 AM
if you must snark, snark in here!


http://www.serenity-irc.net/java/index.php


(dont you guys remember wayne's world, where garth says "if you need to spew, spew in this...."?)


EXCELLENT SUGGESTION! Chicoliving mods chat and it is much, much looser. I :heartbeat: me some chico!

drip~drop
05-26-2011, 09:03 AM
The storm knocked me off yesterday.:(
I'm so happy to get to see Tony!:fence:

January.
05-26-2011, 09:04 AM
Casey smiling and nodding her head as Tony talks about Caylee.

Wholehearted
05-26-2011, 09:05 AM
Seeing Casey smiling at TL's testimony about Caylee being a great little girl just turns my stomach.

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:05 AM
Holy crap, Casey crying when Tony is talking about Caylee being a good kid who loved Dora the Explorer.

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:05 AM
KC is trying her best to cry during the testimony about Caylee.

coeurfragile
05-26-2011, 09:05 AM
I missed the afternoon session yesterday.. who else was on the stand other than Tony?

2goldfish
05-26-2011, 09:05 AM
Thanks for the link, but that one doesn't work for me, can you post the mIRC link? Thanks!


actually your nick has been in there with us the last day or two but you've never talked - I dont have a handy link because I am using the applet but not mIRC anymore, however the network is serenity and the room is #websleuths!


I dont recall how to connect to network *embarassed* but once you join network, you type /join #websleuths.


eta in fact the applet says you are present right now, at least someone with your nickname is :D

tehcloser
05-26-2011, 09:06 AM
Tony said he saw a lot of love between Casey and Caylee.

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:06 AM
Ugh. JB on pretty girls at Fusion. Ick.

jmfstl
05-26-2011, 09:06 AM
It appears that the DT is going to go for the loving mother who could never kill her child theory now. JB just said he wanted to talk about the gas cans in the shed then jumps right into TL club promoting. Didn't even talk about the gas can thing.

Amster
05-26-2011, 09:07 AM
Great....5 minutes in, and I'm already angry!

Was TonE with JA before he came in the courtroom?

Tulessa
05-26-2011, 09:07 AM
No duct tape on the gas cans per TL. GA said he hadn't put that tape on them. Interesting.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:07 AM
Baez is trying to playdown Casey's dancing and having a good time at Fusion...under the umbrella of Promotion of events and taking photo's and posting them online in order to promote and get people to come to Fusian.

jmfstl
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Does anyone know about this "secret"

goldleaf
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
So ICA overcame her grief over Caylee drowning to pose happily for photos to promote Fusion? Wow, JB is pushing by making this inference

Miss Anarchy
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
I'm glad to see Tony dressed appropriately for court. So many people don't now-a-days. His appearance says he is a believable young man. I like the purple tie and would like to think that it is for Caylee.

Shyla
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Can't remember if duct tape on gas cans....

Cherry Baby
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Oh fer pete's sake - there is no secret, you are in court. What the heck?

Chiquita71
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
HHJP: heed? Okay.

JB: I want to talk about Caylee. We talked about the interaction between Casey and Caylee. Did you see Caylee laugh with KC. Run to KC?

TL: yes

JB: was that genuine?

yes

JB: was she faking?

objection
overruled

JB: explain to the jury what you observed as to their interactions.

TL: It was completely...ah um, she would have her book, teddy bear, to the pool to teach her to swim. Caylee liked Dora the Explorer taught her to count to fourty. She was a amazing ittle girl.

JB: how often where they hugging?

TL: pretty much the whole time

JB: the gas can that you picked up, did it have duct tape on it?

TL: not that I remember

JB: do you normally have photographers?

TL: friends of mine did those, going to school for it and it was good for them.

JB: when you promote a lot of it is done online?

TL: yes

JB: its so people can see the pretty girl atmosphere?

yes

JB: a young man like yourself wants to go to a club with pretty girls.

yes

JB: the person who took the pics is a friend and to show everyone is having a good time.

yes

JB: yesterday we talked about you and Casey sharing secrets. I don't want you to tell us what the secret is, but was that secret told before Casey got arrested.

yes

JB: so if an accusaton got made up that she told that after would be wrong.

objection

HHJP: ?

JB: it was 100% after Casey got arrested.

side bar

January.
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Let the sidebars begin!

Melanie
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
8 minutes in and we're at Sidebar!

Gahhhhhhhh! :)

Mel

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
"Don't tell us what the secret is, but it was made before Casey was ever arrested?"

WTH?

Wise Old Owl
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Let's play I've got a secret. Don't tell me what the secret is - we'll play 20 questions for me to figure out what the secret is.

Oh please........................

Bon
05-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Does anyone know about this "secret"


I don't!!!

beach
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Why do I have to keep signing into the forum? Is there a problem with the forum or my computer? Thanks


Not exactly sure but I suspect it is becase adnoid has been continually working on the server and often resetting it so we can keep up with the influx of large numbers of members & guests. He has done a REMARKABLE JOB keeping this site up and running considering we have set record numbers at WS several times over the past week. That often leads to clearing cookies and you will need to log back in.

Hope that helps.

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
From what I understand, Tony never said Casey told him that George sexually abused Casey. He said he only remembers Casey saying it was physical. Why don't they just let Tony answer that and not allow the speculation of this "secret?"

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
KC smiling when Tony mentioned her teaching Caylee to swim.

15787

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
No duct tape on the gas cans per TL. GA said he hadn't put that tape on them. Interesting.

I seem to remember that.

QueenD
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Does anyone know what the secret is that JB is talking about?

strawberry
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Thank you. It seems if you have a different opinion than the majority, and dare express it, you get slammed. I know that's what WS's is not about. Made me very very sad :(

MOO

Mel

Don't be sad. I did not mean to slam..I was just clearing up the timeline for you. I've been slammed myself so I know how you feel.

January.
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Does anyone know about this "secret"

I think he is referring to the sexual abuse claims.

atthelake
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
EXCELLENT SUGGESTION! Chicoliving mods chat and it is much, much looser. I :heartbeat: me some chico!

Beach or Chico, where is the link for the mIRC version for myself and others who may want to chat but the java link doesn't work for me for some reason? Chico walked me thorough last week as I can't do the java that is listed above, it just comes up blank for me, thanks!

zoey
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
KC is trying her best to cry during the testimony about Caylee.

personally loved that Dora taught Caylee how to count to 40---not ICA...snap

CementPond
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Something about Casey telling Tony about "abuse" she had suffered from her father.


Does anyone know about this "secret"

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Does anyone know about this "secret"

Lee Anthony molesting her. Remember, she told Jesse Lee tried to have sex with her but in her letters she was talking about her magic bra and flash lights and it stopped after she told him if he came in her room again, she would kill him. :loser:

jmfstl
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
IS is saying that JB is trying to imply that the "secret" has to do with ICA sexual abuse.

Miss Anarchy
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
It appears that the DT is going to go for the loving mother who could never kill her child theory now. JB just said he wanted to talk about the gas cans in the shed then jumps right into TL club promoting. Didn't even talk about the gas can thing.

I agree that its wierd. JB is just jumping all around with his questioning and its confusing, even to people who have followed the case. I can't imagine being a juror who doesn't know much about it and trying to follow him. Or maybe that's JB's plan - If I can confuse them enough, they will acquit.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Interesting..today Ashton going with Mr. George to the Sidebars...yesterday I only noticed Mr George the lone Prosecutor at the sidebar

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 09:09 AM
I don't!!!

Casey told Tony that she was physically abused.

essies
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
I missed the afternoon session yesterday.. who else was on the stand other than Tony?

Mostly, TL's roomates and some of the girls who knew KC from Fusion.

Amster
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
Didn't TonE say that ICA accused GA of PHYSICAL abuse??

21merc7
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
The secret is probably that KC told TL about sexual abuse.

Wasn't nice of KC to cry when Caylee is mentioned to TonE. Does she realize he does not give a flying leap about her and would run far far away if she is ever let out of jail?

tehcloser
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
The "secret" came out yesterday and the State quickly squished it......it was did ICA tell you she was abused by GA.

cleo612
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
Why do I have an almost uncontrollable urge to reach through my screen and grab hold of Baez and shake him till midnight? He really, really annoys me with his smarminess.

Mendara
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
JB is really not playing fair - what if Tony is confused about what secret it is?

What is the point if the jury can't hear the secret? He is trying to avoid having KC get on the stand and say out loud that her dad abused her, but still trying to get the abuse confirmed by others. Sort like having his cake and eating t too.

NOT RIGHT> MO

goldleaf
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
It's wishful thinking on my part to hope the secret was:

"I'm an unemployed high school dropout and can't tell you who fathered my baby. I also steal from my friends and family. My mommy and daddy are mean."

BritsKate
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
Loved when JB asked who taught Caylee Spanish? AL replied 'Dora the Explorer'!

I think Baez anticipated him saying MOTY had taught her.

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
Sidebar

CM as usual can't hear.

15788

watcher9
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
I don't know what JB is trying to get across, but I thought TL never saw ICA again after CA took her from his apartment which was definitely before her arrest.

Scamperoo
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
Tony said he saw a lot of love between Casey and Caylee.

I thought he only saw her a few times?

LiveLaughLuv
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
Good morning all.....

Oh, ooooo, secret?

TonyL learned a secret before ICA was arrested??? Sidebar....

ICA managed to squeese out some tears when TonyL was remembering Caylee, learning spanish from Dora....ha, thought he'd say ICA, eh Baez???

strawberry
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
Who asked for a sidebar? DT or SA?

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
Lee Anthony molesting her. Remember, she told Jesse Lee tried to have sex with her but in her letters she was talking about her magic bra and flash lights and it stopped after she told him if he came in her room again, she would kill him. :loser:

She told Jesse that Lee molested her... she told Tony that she was physically abused by George or both her parents. He doesn't remember he telling him about any sexual abuse according to a police interview I read recently. Unless he changed that in his deposition, I don't know?

lemon
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
JB and his tactics make me feel yucky. I am hoping the jury feels the same.

mitzi
05-26-2011, 09:11 AM
KC's team needs to talk to her...she continuously has a pi$$ed off, chin-jutting, why the heck am I here look about her. She in no way looks remorseful or sad (if JB's fairytale is true). I don't get it.

KDB
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
From what I understand, Tony never said Casey told him that George sexually abused Casey. He said he only remembers Casey saying it was physical. Why don't they just let Tony answer that and not allow the speculation of this "secret?"

Because that's exactly what JB wants... the jury to speculate the "secret"... IMO.

nomoresorrow
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
Does anyone know if Casey's theft issues will/can be brought up? TIA ~

tehcloser
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
I thought he only saw her a few times?

He did, but I guess he saw "the love".....:floorlaugh:

Tulessa
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
Does anyone know about this "secret"

I THINK they are referring to the alleged sexual abuse.

mombomb
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
Anybody know what's in the big taped up box?

Cher352
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
It wasn't Mr G that brought it up yesterday, it was JB and it was squashed by Mr G, right?
I thing JB is trying to sneak one in and that is what the side bar is about.

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
Does anyone know about this "secret"

She told Tony that George molested her. I believe that's what it is about.

doogiesgirl
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
No duct tape on the gas cans per TL. GA said he hadn't put that tape on them. Interesting.

Wait....I missed that. When did AL say that?

Well if he did, I admit it is interesting BUT he also doesn't seem to have a memory for details so....you know.


:cow:

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
personally loved that Dora taught Caylee how to count to 40---not ICA...snap

I liked that reply..Baez was expecting him to say...Casey taught Caylee how to count...NOPE..Thwarted by the truth Caylee was placed in front of the tv and watched Dora

butwhatif?
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
Seeing Casey smiling at TL's testimony about Caylee being a great little girl just turns my stomach.

yeah...turned mine too. But notice how quickly it stopped when TL said it was DORA that taught Caylee to count in Spanish? They were obviously expecting him to say ICA. Burn!

And I believe this is the very first time ICA has 'lit up' at mention of Caylee.
Is she seriously still trying to impress TL?
JMO

cleo612
05-26-2011, 09:12 AM
bobloblaw, when you log in, be sure to put a tick mark in the box that says "Remember Me?" under the log in area. That should keep you logged in indefinitely.

Hope that helps.

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
Interesting..today Ashton going with Mr. George to the Sidebars...yesterday I only noticed Mr George the lone Prosecutor at the sidebar

I willed him to appear just for me.

Joanner
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
Anyone want to keep a score on the side bars today?

Chiquita71
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
WESH: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-ex...teractive.html


WFTV:http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

Click Orlando:http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

FOX:http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

Media player:http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


WFTVTV sound http://player.streamtheworld.com/_pl...allsign=WFTVTV

CNN http://live.cnn.com/

:bump:

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
Something about Casey telling Tony about "abuse" she had suffered from her father.

OMG
the NG picture is cracking me up...:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

lemon
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
Anybody know what's in the big taped up box?

Zanny?!

Apex-mom
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
KC smiling when Tony mentioned her teaching Caylee to swim.

15787


Wouldn't you think that IF THAT IS HOW CAYLEE DIED that the mere MENTION of SWMMING would UPSET YOU?!?!?!

:mad:

TotallyObsessed
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
IMO TL seems more than happy to help the defense.

Linda7NJ
05-26-2011, 09:13 AM
It would be hearsy comeing from him. If Jose wants to have these claims admiited he's gonna have to do it through Casey herself:)

mitzi
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
Sidebar

CM as usual can't hear.

15788

I wonder if CM will actually do any questioning, or is this allllll Jose's baby! I don't know which one would be easier to listen to.

strawberry
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
I think the secret is that GA abused her. TL said in his depo she told him that but he thought it was physical not sexual. Wouldn't a "secret" be discoverable? Trial by ambush!

Amster
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
PHYSICAL ABUSE....not sexual

CementPond
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
OMG! LOL I almost wet myself.


Zanny?!

doogiesgirl
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
Do these incessant sidebars make just me angry or can I get an AMEN!!? lol

:cow:

Oakley
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
"Don't tell us what the secret is, but it was made before Casey was ever arrested?"

WTH?

Ah but when was it made? Was she setting up her alibi? She only knew Tony for several weeks before she was arrested.

Whisperer
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
Baez it going to make his case between TL first and then JG about ICA telling them her father and brother molested her. He is planting seeds, even if he can't mention the exact words.

He is trying to make the casw w/o putting ICA on the stand

January.
05-26-2011, 09:14 AM
KC's team needs to talk to her...she continuously has a pi$$ed off, chin-jutting, why the heck am I here look about her. She in no way looks remorseful or sad (if JB's fairytale is true). I don't get it.

I'm thinking they did talk to her, there's been a big difference between yesterday and today. Never before did she smile and try to pull off a "proud loving mom" look. I rolled my eyes so hard they nearly got stuck in the back of my head.

tehcloser
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
The only way JB is going to get the "abuse" in is to put ICA on the stand.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
Why do I have an almost uncontrollable urge to reach through my screen and grab hold of Baez and shake him till midnight? He really, really annoys me with his smarminess.

I understand how you feel Cleo...

strawberry
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
bobloblaw, when you log in, be sure to put a tick mark in the box that says "Remember Me?" under the log in area. That should keep you logged in indefinitely.

Hope that helps.

I tried that and it doesn't work. I also have to keep logging in (the past month or so) and it drives me nuts.

Camille
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
Because that's exactly what JB wants... the jury to speculate the "secret"... IMO.

The judge ruled yesterday that Tony couldn't tell what the secret was because it was self-serving for Casey.

Marina2
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
Can the state ask on direct about the "secret"? Did KC ever tell you that she was physically abused by her parents? Did KC ever tell you that her father sexually abused her? Or, is this off limits to both sides? I hope this will be allowed to get the truth of what she actually said out to the jury.

luckyme
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
I have so much stuff to do today. im never gonna make it through trial. These side bars are killing me.

Whisperer
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
I like this TL. He is doing the best he can do.

tsitra01
05-26-2011, 09:15 AM
Baez is just trying to make this secret sound more salacious to the jury.
(george's molesting)

Stella5
05-26-2011, 09:16 AM
The state needs to push the fact that Tony himself said he had only seen Caylee & Casey together 3 times! 3 times does not a lovey mother daughter relationship make. 3 times is enough for Casey to play her little "look at me I'm such a rockin fun mom" and for Caylee who was so very young and vulnerable to be manipulated into believing Mommy loved her to the moon and back.

CementPond
05-26-2011, 09:16 AM
They loved each other in only a few short weeks? PLEASE!

Trident
05-26-2011, 09:16 AM
I'm glad to see Tony dressed appropriately for court. So many people don't now-a-days. His appearance says he is a believable young man. I like the purple tie and would like to think that it is for Caylee.

I really had to laugh at the post. One of my relatives, a real low-life, guilty as 'ell, always dresses well for court. He learned it's one way to "play" the system, lol, and he does.

Not saying TL is doing this in any, way, shape, or form, just saying looks are often deceiving and the most respectful, seemingly most innocent, are the worst - they just learned being through the system, how to "play" it.

SommerSunshine
05-26-2011, 09:16 AM
What I don't understand is everytime the DT makes her look like an amazing mom the more bizzare it is she wasn't upset when her daughter drowned....

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:16 AM
I'm thinking they did talk to her, there's been a big difference between yesterday and today. Never before did she smile and try to pull off a "proud loving mom" look. I rolled my eyes so hard they nearly got stuck in the back of my head.

I'm thinking it's more for Tony!!

lemon
05-26-2011, 09:16 AM
IMO TL seems more than happy to help the defense.

I think he's just telling the truth. I think JB knows what the truth is and he's phrasing his questions to make the truth appear to be something sinister in areas that it is not. (not just with TL, with everyone)

Melanie
05-26-2011, 09:16 AM
From his 2/18 depo:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-trial-new-deposition20110420,0,1748555.story

"From what I remember, I think it was just hitting that she was physically abused," Lazzaro told attorneys during a Feb. 18 deposition.

MOO

Mel

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:17 AM
She told Jesse that Lee molested her... she told Tony that she was physically abused by George or both her parents. He doesn't remember he telling him about any sexual abuse according to a police interview I read recently. Unless he changed that in his deposition, I don't know?

I don't think ICA told any Female friend about any abuse...iirc she only told these accusations to the Males in her life...

Softail
05-26-2011, 09:17 AM
:lol:

JB says you talked on the phone when you weren't together?

TL says, well yeah, that would be why we would talk on the phone. We weren't together.

Oakley
05-26-2011, 09:17 AM
Baez is painting a picture of a single mother falling 'intensely" in love. Might this not point to motive?

Camille
05-26-2011, 09:17 AM
LOL "You would talk on the phone even went you weren't together!"

doogiesgirl
05-26-2011, 09:17 AM
AH...AL had the misfortune to fall in love with a murderess....poor guy, that's gonna leave a scar.

:cow:

Bon
05-26-2011, 09:18 AM
He loved her, he really loved her,so he says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :maddening:

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:18 AM
Talking on the phone is not his kind of thing so he would just pass out!!!!!!!!!!!!

January.
05-26-2011, 09:18 AM
LOL Tony is correcting JB on the date that the news broke.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:18 AM
Pass out as in Fall Asleep...

Oakley
05-26-2011, 09:18 AM
From his 2/18 depo:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-trial-new-deposition20110420,0,1748555.story

"From what I remember, I think it was just hitting that she was physically abused," Lazzaro told attorneys during a Feb. 18 deposition.

MOO

Mel

Setting up her motive? It was shortly before all this went down. Diabolical.

luckyme
05-26-2011, 09:18 AM
Baez is painting a picture of a single mother falling 'intensely" in love. Might this not point to motive?

He likes to shoot himself in the foot. moo

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:18 AM
:lol:

JB says you talked on the phone when you weren't together?

TL says, well yeah, that would be why we would talk on the phone. We weren't together.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::f loorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Gnatcatcher
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
Why does Baez have to testify instead of asking questions? That irks me!

2goldfish
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
Wouldn't you think that IF THAT IS HOW CAYLEE DIED that the mere MENTION of SWMMING would UPSET YOU?!?!?!

:mad:


there is the million dollar question which baez and ICA are failing at answering.

Wagara
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
Can someone give me a sound only link. The one at top isn't working. Thanks!

Tulessa
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
Wait....I missed that. When did AL say that?

Well if he did, I admit it is interesting BUT he also doesn't seem to have a memory for details so....you know.


:cow:

Jb asked him if there were any duct tape on the cans and he replied no.

kyrasmummy
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
Jb with his "somethings not right here"

BritsKate
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
AL was shocked July 16th when news broke. AL states through JB if she would have confided in anyone it would be him....

OR HER PARENTS! Ha!!!!

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
Oh, this is going to get good when the state gets up there.

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 09:19 AM
When asked if Casey should have been able to confide in him, he said "Yes, or her parents."

redkatrampant
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
They loved each other in only a few short weeks? PLEASE!

Just me, but I have been married for 23 years to a guy I fell in love with in a few short weeks.:twocents:

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
Talking on the phone is not his kind of thing so he would just pass out!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that's pretty much a guy thing! ;-)

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
Me or her parents......TL just threw JB off big time. Tony feels she would have confided in her own parents.

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
JB: If KC would have confided in anybody it would have been you, right? (to TL)
TL: Yes, or to her parents.

LOVE IT!!!

Chiquita71
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
JB: your relationship with Casey got intense.

intense how?

JB: more time, care for one another did Casey tell you she loved you?

yes

JB: you tell her you love her?

yes

JB: call when in ny?

yes

JB: when she would go home after seeing her all day, text?

yes

JB: you told LE you talked till you fell asleep?

yes

JB: you would talk till you passed out. not on drugs? drunk?

no, I am a person who passes out on the phone talking on the phone is not my thing.

JB: but you two would talk to all hours of the night and text?

yes

JB: when this occurred on July 15th

it wasn't on that day

JB: sorry the 16th, even today you are shocked over this situation.

objection
sustained

JB: comparing KC's behavior pre june 16th and post 16th that is something difficult for you to deal with.

yes

JB: it is bizaare, right?

yes

JB: and you felt if she would have confided in anyone it would be you?

or her parents,

JB: but she (something) you.

Or her parents

JB: anytime Casey talked to her parents she went outside?

yes

JB: she kept that world separate

yes

BigFatMommyDog
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
Go Mr. George! Get that motive (channeling Gitana in her absence)

Melanie
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
:lol:

JB says you talked on the phone when you weren't together?

TL says, well yeah, that would be why we would talk on the phone. We weren't together.

Sometimes you just gotta smile - LOL. Maybe he didn't have his red-bull this morn!

Hugs,

Mel

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
Awww, Casey was keeping Jose's seat warm for him. :bang: She moved back to her own seat when he returned from the podium.

Tulessa
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
I don't think ICA told any Female friend about any abuse...iirc she only told these accusations to the Males in her life...

Which makes it suspect.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:20 AM
Jb asked him if there were any duct tape on the cans and he replied no.

The DT is going to come back and go after George for that...IMO

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:21 AM
Which makes it suspect.

Exactly.

whiteangora
05-26-2011, 09:21 AM
The State needs to start using Linda or JA for the questioning. ASAP!

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:21 AM
Tony seriously just busted JB's plan. JB wanted to convey that KC couldn't talk to her family.....Tony said he would assume she would have talked to him OR HER PARENTS!!!

THWARTED BY TONE!!!!!

grammieto5
05-26-2011, 09:21 AM
This young man reminds me of my G-son.

cityslick
05-26-2011, 09:21 AM
Just me, but I have been married for 23 years to a guy I fell in love with in a few short weeks.:twocents:

Some people don't believe in love in first sight.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:22 AM
That's right Mr George..ICA did, IMO, move in with TL on June 16th..

Tulessa
05-26-2011, 09:22 AM
Okie dokie, which is it Tony?

joeskidbeck
05-26-2011, 09:22 AM
Can the state ask on direct about the "secret"? Did KC ever tell you that she was physically abused by her parents? Did KC ever tell you that her father sexually abused her? Or, is this off limits to both sides? I hope this will be allowed to get the truth of what she actually said out to the jury.

From what I understand JB can't ask AL to talk about the "secret" because the SA didn't. JB can probably bring it up when the defense brings their case, but now they are limited to cross examination. Clear as mud, right?

minazoe
05-26-2011, 09:22 AM
Lazzaro is still in love with her

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 09:22 AM
Baez objecting before a question is even asked.

Melanie
05-26-2011, 09:23 AM
He likes to shoot himself in the foot. moo

Now that reminded me of yesterday with all that gun talk ;)

Mel

minazoe
05-26-2011, 09:23 AM
He also seems hostille to me...just slightly...not giving up anything.

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 09:23 AM
Lazzaro is still in love with her

I don't know, I get the feeling he's just hurt by her behavior.

beach
05-26-2011, 09:23 AM
Beach or Chico, where is the link for the mIRC version for myself and others who may want to chat but the java link doesn't work for me for some reason? Chico walked me thorough last week as I can't do the java that is listed above, it just comes up blank for me, thanks!

For atthelake:

The instructions for mirc are in this post

If you have any trouble after that, I suggest sending chicoliving a PM and she can help you. :)

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:23 AM
From what I understand JB can't ask AL to talk about the "secret" because the SA didn't. JB can probably bring it up when the defense brings their case, but now they are limited to cross examination. Clear as mud, right?

JB can't ask even on direct examination b/c it is hearsay and self serving. KC will have to testify is she wants it in evidence.

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:23 AM
I'm already sick of the objecting from BOTH sides!!!:maddening:

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:24 AM
I don't know, I get the feeling he's just hurt by her behavior.

Agreed. I also think he's doing a fine job.

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 09:25 AM
Thread is moving MUCH slower today. Sort of relaxing. HaHa.

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:25 AM
Lazzaro is still in love with her

:denied:

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:25 AM
.TL was walking away from ICA while she poured the gas into her car and put the cans in the trunk..
Did I hear that correct..I also seem to remember that in his LE statement.

Chiquita71
05-26-2011, 09:26 AM
FG: things baez brought up. The gas cans, describe.

small hand gas cans

FG: when you were asked if they had duct tape, do you know? they may have but you don't know.

correct

FG: talked on the phone all the time?

yes

FG: after she moved in on the 16th didn't have to talk on phone she was there.

yes

FG: JB referenced a interview...

objection
continue

FG: JB asked you about your statement to LE and do you remember him referencing a certain page to you?

yes, he showed me the Amscot page.

FG: when you obtained the gas cans you went to her car

we grabbed the cans from my tail gate and walked over to the car

FG: what did you do?

handed them to casey and she put them in the car

FG: trunk open or closed?

closed

FG: smell gas?

yes

FG: strong?

just as if you poured at a gas station.

FG: defendant poured first?

yes

FG: what did with second can?

handing it to her and closeing my tailgate

FG: you are walking away from the car?

yes

FG: she is done putting second can in what are you doing?

I saw her walk back to her car. I was in front of her. I saw her open the trunk.

FG: your at the back of your car but the front of miss anthonys car

I walked to see if she is done, the edge I could see the rubbing lining truck, where the trunk meets and seals.

FG: could you see into the trunk?

no I could not see into the trunk.

ohiogirl
05-26-2011, 09:26 AM
Lazzaro is still in love with her


I didn't hear him say that.

TotallyObsessed
05-26-2011, 09:26 AM
Fg much much better today

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:26 AM
Well that was a nice sound!

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:26 AM
TL says he could only see the edge of the trunk where the rubber seal is, NOT inside the trunk.

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:27 AM
No further questions of TL by SA. Subject to recall.

ebedeeb
05-26-2011, 09:27 AM
Why did ICA make herself look like a boy today?

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:27 AM
Baez going to re-cross TL

magnolia
05-26-2011, 09:27 AM
IMO TL seems more than happy to help the defense.

I noticed this. Different demeanor with the defense, IMO.

doogiesgirl
05-26-2011, 09:27 AM
Lazzaro is still in love with her

I don't know about that...but I sure did notice KC yesterday trying to catch his eye.

:cow:

BetteDavisEyes
05-26-2011, 09:27 AM
Thread is moving MUCH slower today. Sort of relaxing. HaHa.

I'm rather happy about that because I can't be here all day.

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
baez mocking LE pisses me off.

tiredofthis
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
I didn't hear him say that.

He said he told her he loved her at the time.

wenwe4
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
TL has taken the stand. . . the jurors are entering the courtroom. KC wearing a blue striped blouse w/collar, hair in a bun.

JB: I want to talk about Caylee, interaction you saw hugging, loving, caring for her child . . .did it appear to be a lot of love between them . ..

TL: she would have a book, teddybear, teach her to swim in the pool, Dora Explorer, count to 40 in spanish . . .Dora taught her, (kc wiping tears) . ..


promote club online . . .photos are put on line to see pretty girls and get people to the club, get people in the door. Photos show everyone having a good time.

JB: You and KC sharing secrets . . . don't tell us what the secret is . . . was secret told before she got arrested . . . but it was made before KC got arrested. . . objection
approach . . . Sidebar

(HHBP appears to be reading from papers to JB)
JB: you relationship w/kc got pretty intense . . spending more time together . . told each other loved them, talked til you passed out, (not drunk or used drugs),

TL: talking on the phone is not my kind of thing, I pass out
JB: when news broke on 7/16 you were shocked . . .even today your are shocked (objection - sustained) compare kc's behavior pre and post 6/16, something is just not right it is bizarre (objection-overruled) she would have confided in you

TL: Me or her parents,
JB everytime she talked to her parents she went outside . . kept that world separate from you. No further questions

Mr. G: can you describe gas cans
TL: red small hand gas cans, I don't remember if duct tape,

Mr. G: talked all time on phone, after she moved in she was always there, didn't talk on phone. Yesterday JB asked you questions about 10/16 interview, referencing a certain page and approached you, when you got gas cans, walked over to her car . . handed to KC, trunk was closed, standing behind her closer to the car, smell of gas just like @ gas station, KC poured 1st gas can, TL handed 2nd gas can and went to close his tailgate, kc finished putting 2nd gas can into car,

TL: I then saw her walk back to open the trunk, when trunk goes up, you could see the rubber (seal) of the trunk . . .couldn't see in the trunk. (he was behind his car and in front of kc's @ the time).

No further question . . .subject to recall.

JB: significant issue in this case . . . you told them there was no smell. there wsa atime you were asked to close your eyes

3doglady
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
I didn't hear him say that.

I didn't either. Lots of young guys tell girls, they are sleeping with, that they love them. That doesn't mean that it was true. Did I miss something?

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
JB asking TL about smell in trunk. TL says there was no smell coming from the trunk.

kaRN
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
Bodies don't smell immediately after death that humans can detect.

Whisperer
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
Why didn't TL put the gasoline in the car? IIRC, ICA insisted on putting it in herself. Most men would put the gas in. I suspect ICA wanted to do it. I think he may have alluded to such three years ago.

epiphany
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
Judge: ...u r not excused; u need to wait around

FaerieB
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
George back on the stand.

Softail
05-26-2011, 09:28 AM
GA is up again

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
George up again!

Chiquita71
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
FG: no further subject to recall

HHJP: cross into those areas you may proceed

JB: mr L. when the police questioned you about this specific incident you knew the trunk was important.

yes sir

JB: despite all that you told them there was no smell

correct

JB: during the questioning they told you to close your eyes and try and picture it but that did not waiver your testimony you still told the truth.

yes

HHJP: you may stand down but you are not excused. Please wait outside

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
George is back!

kyrasmummy
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
GA back for more questioning.

January.
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
George back on the stand.

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
GA being called back to the stand.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
George Anthony back on the stand!!

Ashton UP!!

jmfstl
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
Oh wow here comes GA again?

doogiesgirl
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
Rut Roh...GA's up!

:cow:

Rallihanna
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
GA again- why?

faefrost
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
George is up. JA is examining. It's time to get it on!

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
George is back!

I wasn't expecting that! JA is back too....woooo hooo!

FaerieB
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
GA talking about events of June 24th.

tehcloser
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
*thud, was not spectin' him this AM.

QueenD
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
I thought he (GA) may come back to the stand today when I seen him in his nice collared shirt.

KPCrimeNY
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
Just getting started watching this morning.

What I wanted to know is who is dressing Casey?
She looks like she is a doll being dressed by a kid.
This girl would have never worn any of these outfits. I understand dress professional and etc.

zoey
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
I didn't either. Lots of young guys tell girls, they are sleeping with, that they love them. That doesn't mean that it was true. Did I miss something?

that was what I was thinking.......

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
Please George continue to do the right thing!! Please!!

watergirl
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
ICA seems nervous with GA on stand.

Linda7NJ
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
GA again- why?


gas cans....casey wouldn't let him see into the trunk

shellsbells
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
Did she try to frame her dad with the duct tape?

Whisperer
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
Ashton interviewing GA. ... to review about gas cans..

kaRN
05-26-2011, 09:30 AM
Good luck George!! The truth will set your soul free!! :innocent:

Softail
05-26-2011, 09:31 AM
The state is being very methodical. Everything in chronological order.

luckyme
05-26-2011, 09:31 AM
Going to testify that he found lock broken and probally about gas cans and maybe shovels.

Openmyeyes
05-26-2011, 09:31 AM
GA looks so sad.

zoey
05-26-2011, 09:31 AM
he looks really rough

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
ICA seems nervous with GA on stand.

Can't blame him..who knows what accusations from Casey VIA Baez will be said

doogiesgirl
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
GA looks as if he's had enough of this BS. Seriously...he's looks done with this!

:cow:

grammieto5
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
Lazzaro is still in love with her

I believe he still has some feelings for her, and I believe he is hurt. I want to just give him a hug, rub his back and tell him to just be strong, and tell the truth. He makes me sad. This whole mess makes me sad :-(

luckyme
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
She looks like shes panicking. Uh roh!

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
George looks nice in yellow. Talking about the shed break in. I think as silly as it sounds to report gas cans missing... that the metal gas can had sentimental value to him... I forget why... but I had never seen one like the metal one?

Liz
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
Can someone give me a sound only link. The one at top isn't working. Thanks!

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/coxradio/?callsign=WFTVTV

Hope that works!

luv
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
http://i51.tinypic.com/13zzlsg.jpg

Azcrabcakes
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
To JB: The word "picture" is pronounced "pik-sure", not "pitch-er", unless you are referring to a liquid-holding vessel. :banghead:

A photograph/picture is pronounced as "pik-sure!". That is a pet peeve of mine! ARGH. :banghead:

GennyMac
05-26-2011, 09:32 AM
JB made a huge stink yesterday about GA calling the cops over 'stolen gas cans' and that no one would call the police for 2 missing gas cans. I thought the reason GA called the police was because someone had actually broken into the shed, not just the missing gas cans.

Maybe this is why SA is working through GAs testimony again?

repairmom
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
JA asking GA about a photo of the yard where the shed is located.

fifteen89
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
JB to TL: "...and that didn't waver your testimony, you still told the truth..."

Hey, JB! Yoo-hoo, JB! Over here, JB! You might try asking your client to do the same.

Miss Anarchy
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
What does it mean when the "Publish" a piece of evidence after it has been admitted into evidence?

TIA

Tiki
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
ICA angry now - GA back on the stand

FaerieB
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
JB objecting to diagram of house. Sidebar again.

AliGirl
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
George keeps looking over at Casey's side with some nasty looks!!!

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
Jose blundering again

tehcloser
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
lol.......snide bar.

wenwe4
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
JA: 6/24 - you werent working normal shift that day . . .yard maintenance work,
GA: go to my side shed on south side of my home, found lock had been broken . . .

JA: States exhibit LJ . . . diagram of your home and surrounding property,
move to admit it into evidence. . . .
JB: (objection: never saw this before . . . can we approach?)

sleutherontheside
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
Self Explanatory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


15789

epiphany
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
Sidebar on showing diagram of Anthony home defense hasn't seen before

doogiesgirl
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
Oh my did you guys catch that evil eye GA just gave the D table? Whoa...he is pissed!


:cow:

jmfstl
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
OMG JB says he has never seen this evidence before. There is tons of evidence he probably just doesn't remember seeing it. More delay delay delay.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
Well of course Baez is going to Object to any and all photos..
Baez doesn't have this photo...IMO how convenient...I am sure they do have it IMO

Softail
05-26-2011, 09:34 AM
So JB is objecting because he has not seen a picture of the Anthony home before? :waitasec:

luckyme
05-26-2011, 09:34 AM
JB made a huge stink yesterday about GA calling the cops over 'stolen gas cans' and that no one would call the police for 2 missing gas cans. I thought the reason GA called the police was because someone had actually broken into the shed, not just the missing gas cans.

Maybe this is why SA is working through GAs testimony again?

Yes and maybe shovel that she didnt borrow from dad.

GreenTeam
05-26-2011, 09:34 AM
I've been watching since 7 minutes after 8:00 and haven't seen any shots of ICA yet. Is that unusual? Seems I saw her a lot yesterday.

mitzi
05-26-2011, 09:34 AM
George has got his ticked off look on this morning...is it for Jose for objection?

Chiquita71
05-26-2011, 09:34 AM
GA: stating his name

JA: the date of june 24 2008. Were you home in the morning?

yes

JA: was your schedual different on that day?

yes, do things around the house, deposit a check with wife and go to interview.

JA: was that a day you normally would have been working?

yes

JA: on the 24th did you do yard work

yes

JA: what did you do?

went to shed on south side of my home and found that lock had been broken

JA: (long pause) display for the witness. Exhibit LJ(?) do you recognize this mr. a?

yes

JA: is this a diagram of your home and surrounding yard?

yes

JA: would it be helpful for you to point this out to the jury?

yes

JA: want to enter the diagram of the house as evidence)

JB: first time I have seen this judge.

(side bar)

FYI: this side bar is about a diagram of the anthony home that the state wants George to use to show where the shed is, and Jose is objecting.

:dramaqueen: