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05-25-2011, 11:59 PM
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beach
05-28-2011, 08:07 AM
:bump:

Harmony2
05-28-2011, 08:20 AM
reposting links:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-tivid-casey-anthony-jury-livestream,0,999563.htmlstory

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

Wise Old Owl
05-28-2011, 08:52 AM
Morning all. ICA just walked into the courtroom. And it seems the feeds are up.

Please remember to thank the first post.

nursebeeme
05-28-2011, 08:52 AM
Goodmorning everybody!

21merc7
05-28-2011, 08:53 AM
KC reading whatever LDB brought over for JB.

Tulessa
05-28-2011, 08:53 AM
Links in my siggy. :)

NoeticSoul
05-28-2011, 08:53 AM
Good morning! :)

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 08:53 AM
Thanks ahead of time for the updates guys....I am using the old iphone as a modem at the moment and dread to think what my bill would come to if I streamed the trial on it, so I am DEPENDENT on what you write for now xo

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 08:54 AM
asked in the sidebar - Did anyone get any intel on the late witness filing LDB mention yesterday?

Tulessa
05-28-2011, 08:55 AM
I wish they had a camera that stayed on GA and CA...

Quiche
05-28-2011, 08:55 AM
Are we going to get Amy H. today??

'Morning, everyone!

SuziQ
05-28-2011, 08:55 AM
Here is the CNN link.

ETA: forgot the link and now I don't have it. It was focused soley on ICA's face.

Sorry peeps! Off for more coffee

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 08:56 AM
OH yes, Amy....if she is called I am just going to risk the mammoth bill.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 08:56 AM
KC reading whatever LDB brought over for JB.

I wonder if that's their motion re: hearsay.

Poodleluver
05-28-2011, 08:56 AM
The defendant seems uptight today. I wish I knew what was going through her mind!

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 08:56 AM
There is a tweet on the wesh page that says Tony L. came in and may be first...

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 08:57 AM
The defendant seems uptight today. I wish I knew what was going through her mind!

'I should have gone with that dude from Miami.'

2goldfish
05-28-2011, 08:57 AM
chat http://www.serenity-irc.net/java/index.php

nursebeeme
05-28-2011, 08:57 AM
here is Tricia's warning post from yesterday. Please read and thank this post

Wise Old Owl
05-28-2011, 08:58 AM
All rise!!!

And we're live

sleutherontheside
05-28-2011, 08:58 AM
15880

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Softail
05-28-2011, 08:58 AM
TL is up first

ahi
05-28-2011, 08:59 AM
MORNING!

Does anyone know if the Judge approved the Jury's request to work Monday? Sorry if asked/answered...

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 08:59 AM
Tony Lazzaro is back up - hope the State is footing his bill - what is this - Day four?

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 08:59 AM
Ashton, then a moment later Cindy came into the court doors just before Tony.

smart blonde
05-28-2011, 08:59 AM
Interesting.
Cindy and Tony L. walked in just about at the same time.

Soulmagent
05-28-2011, 08:59 AM
TL getting on the stand now.

SillyJilly
05-28-2011, 08:59 AM
Good Morning:seeya: Let's roll!

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:00 AM
I wonder if that oath everyone takes before they take the stand has any impact on ICA or does she believe her own fantasy truth?

panthera
05-28-2011, 09:00 AM
Good morning! :seeya:

TL taking the stand again.

21merc7
05-28-2011, 09:00 AM
KC is really ticked off already.

salvarenga
05-28-2011, 09:01 AM
G & C's attorney is up behind the prosecutors...perhaps he will be arguing something today...hmmm.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:01 AM
That's from the garbage in ICAs trunk. A registration sheet from Full Sail

It's Not the Nanny
05-28-2011, 09:01 AM
I'm watching live on WESH.com -- is there anyway to stop the facebook section under the screen and the live twitter feed??? I just want the live picture!

Hunnie
05-28-2011, 09:02 AM
maybe the Judge is going to admit the proffer statement to the Jury ...hehehhehe...and she knows it

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:02 AM
G & C's attorney is up behind the prosecutors...perhaps he will be arguing something today...hmmm.

I sure hope so.

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:02 AM
HLN is showing yesterday's testimony:(

nursebeeme
05-28-2011, 09:02 AM
showing crumpled up full sail orientation letter with handwriting on it...

angelmom
05-28-2011, 09:02 AM
Showing TL a registration sheet from FullSail...looks like it might have been in the garbage bag?????

smart blonde
05-28-2011, 09:03 AM
A decomposing orientation sheet from Full Sail.
With Tony and Cameron's names on it.
Tony recognizes it.

ICA looks worried, imo.

momtective
05-28-2011, 09:03 AM
Today's actions by ICA will include but are not limited to...smoothing hair, blowing on hands, adjusting bra strap, rubbing hands together, twisting wrist, giggling with JB, fileing papers, writing notes, shooting glares at anyone who says anything bad about her, and crying on cue. :giggle:

Pink Panther
05-28-2011, 09:03 AM
What is CNN doing? Yesterday the never showed KC, today that's all that they're showing?!

Joanner
05-28-2011, 09:03 AM
WESH is behind in their feed. Some people are posting what is happening before it shows up on WESH. I am going to change to a different station.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:04 AM
I'm watching live on WESH.com -- is there anyway to stop the facebook section under the screen and the live twitter feed??? I just want the live picture!

I don't have the facebook section. I went to wesh.com, then you will see a little screen of the live video. Click right on that.

ahi
05-28-2011, 09:04 AM
I'm watching live on WESH.com -- is there anyway to stop the facebook section under the screen and the live twitter feed??? I just want the live picture!

Orlando Sentinel has just the video w.o all those distractions...

do you know if they will work on Monday?

mydailyopinions
05-28-2011, 09:05 AM
Does anyone have the live link where Casey cam is in the small box on the left of the screen?

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:05 AM
What friends is he talking about?

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:05 AM
Why is DT objecting to TL talking about ICA's lack of change in demeanor? Isn't that their theory too? Err.

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:05 AM
Orlando Sentinel has just the video w.o all those distractions...

do you know if they will work on Monday?

At this point I believe the consensus is the WILL NOT work Monday (staff budget overtime etc.)

Cross Creek
05-28-2011, 09:05 AM
Is it on tv? Thanks

21merc7
05-28-2011, 09:05 AM
I'm watching live on WESH.com -- is there anyway to stop the facebook section under the screen and the live twitter feed??? I just want the live picture!

On the right hand side bottom of live feed, there is button with four arrows pointing to all corners. Click that for full screen.

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:05 AM
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

This link has CA in the corner...

Softail
05-28-2011, 09:06 AM
Mr. George showing him the Blockbuster receipt.

Red Sox Fan
05-28-2011, 09:06 AM
HLN is showing yesterday's testimony:(

Yup :maddening: Gonna have to rely on the great WS posters here TIA All

NoeticSoul
05-28-2011, 09:06 AM
I'm watching live on WESH.com -- is there anyway to stop the facebook section under the screen and the live twitter feed??? I just want the live picture!

Unfortunately, no.

angelmom
05-28-2011, 09:06 AM
WESH is behind in their feed. Some people are posting what is happening before it shows up on WESH. I am going to change to a different station.

probably delaying so they can bleep it out if someone drops another f bomb or the p word.

Asking TL about Casey picking him up at the airport, showing him the receipt from Blockbuster from June 18.

June 18 or 16???

SurfieTX
05-28-2011, 09:06 AM
Showing the Blockbuster receipt to TL.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:06 AM
Why does it say 6/18? That's weird. They rented jumper on the 16th.

nursebeeme
05-28-2011, 09:07 AM
sidebar

wenwe4
05-28-2011, 09:07 AM
TL: Fullsail University Orientation sheet (from the garbage in KC's trunk) . . . not TL's handwriting on the paper . . TL recognizes it from his apartment . .. TL returned 7/5 from NY and stayed in contact w/kc on daily basis . . .more contact that once a day . . kc picked TL up in his car @ airport . . kc happy to see TL @ airport . . went back to his apartment .. went to Buffalo Wild Wings that nite . . UFC . . Ultimate Fighting Championship . . .kc wanted TL want him to meet her friends. . .7/5 - 7/15 kc stayed w/TL . . .receipt to blockbuster . . . TL's name on it . . .date 6/18/08 . . .his receipt . . same condition he saw it . . .Jumper and . . . (objection-relevance - SIDEBAR approach!)

21merc7
05-28-2011, 09:07 AM
Sidebar number 1

Chiquita71
05-28-2011, 09:07 AM
HHJP: bring him back. Tony L.

TL: states name

all rise for the jury

HHJP: hello ladies and gentlemen of the jury.

FG: from that picture do you know what that is?

an orentation sheet from Full Sail

FG: on that photo is is registration from where

Full Sail, to get your badge, and intro to school

FG: is there handwriting? your name?

yes, and Cameron

FG: on the top there are words

that is the address I was staying at with Cam

FG: is that your handwriting?

yes

FG: does that document with the wording and the handwriting, the wording the same?

yes

FG: was that in your apt?

yes

FG: left for ny june 30th return?

?

FG: contact with defendant once a day?

yes

FG: return on july 5th

yes

FG: who picked u up?

Casey

FG: what car?

mine, went back to my apt, later went to buffalo wild wings, she wanted me to meet her friends

FG: did you meet friends?

yes

FG: from july 10 to 15th

yes

FG: any change in her behavior since you left

no sir

FG: is showing Tony something.

it is a receipt to blockbuster

FG: is you name on there?

yes

FG: a date?

June 18th 2008

FG: is that your receipt?

yes

FG: does it say on that receipt what you rented?

(side bar)

CarolAnn
05-28-2011, 09:07 AM
sigh...sidebar

fifteen89
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Does anyone have the live link where Casey cam is in the small box on the left of the screen?

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
No, it is not being carried live on TV...just online :(

distracted 1976
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Is it on tv? Thanks

Saw that HLN is carrying it at 1pm today. Not sure why it isn't live, but hope that helps!

leesap
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
I think I saw a commercial on HLN yesterday that said they would show the trial from 1 to 4.

kathyn2
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Morning everyone. Can't believe they are in a side bar already.

ahi
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Is it on tv? Thanks

Only sporadically that I can tell...not live though...mostly reviewing prior testimony. Best bet is one of the live stream links posted.

Miss Anarchy
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Not even 5 minutes into today and we have our first sidebar, courtesy of JB!

2goldfish
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Why is DT objecting to TL talking about ICA's lack of change in demeanor? Isn't that their theory too? Err.


ITA!!! and the jury surely wonders why this is, as well!

iluvmua
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
wftv.com is showing it just fine

Sparky
05-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Is it on tv? Thanks

WRDQ Channel 27

Sister station to WFTV

ZsaZsa
05-28-2011, 09:09 AM
Wonder if the Jury has figured out that every time JB jumps up to object citing"irrelevance" that is an oxymoron of sorts..... if it wasn't relevant,why object?:innocent:

mydailyopinions
05-28-2011, 09:09 AM
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

This link has CA in the corner...

Thank you very much!

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:09 AM
I wonder what the jury thinks of JBs objection to a receipt (along with all his other seemingly constant objections)?

Sparky
05-28-2011, 09:09 AM
Live stream

http://www.monsters.fm/common/caseyanthony.html

Tiki
05-28-2011, 09:09 AM
receipt 6/18?
the blockbuster video was from 6/16 right?

Beyond Belief
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
i think there is some confusion as to whether its an 8 or a 6 on the receipt, that happens when ink gets old, its hard to tell the difference.

Tulessa
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
I'm watching live on WESH.com -- is there anyway to stop the facebook section under the screen and the live twitter feed??? I just want the live picture!

Use this one.

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/

Mods feel free to remove any time. :)

smart blonde
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
ICA sitting like a statue during sidebar.
Thinking to herself, "I will not look at Tony, I will not look at Tony..."

Cookie278
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
On WESH, click where is says youtube at the bottom of the video. You can watch it on youtube without all the other stuff.

scotslass
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
Hmm wondering why the discrepancy in dates or is TL reading it wrong? Thought blockbuster was the 16th?

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
I'll have to hook my laptop to my TV so hubby can watch it when he wakes up. He was just going to listen a little to opening statements, and now he is almost as hooked as I am.

I have to recap each day for my husband too, who works nights and sleeps all day...he is very interested but not at all impartial as to guilt...he has two little nieces.

One thing he said was that even though his mom is in Florida and his sister is in NJ, his mom has been to the nanny's house several times to check it out, knows the entire floorplan etc...he can't imagine a local mother, where the child lives not knowing this info.

Wise Old Owl
05-28-2011, 09:10 AM
Why does it say 6/18? That's weird. They rented jumper on the 16th.
maybe its from when the movies werer returned.

Beyond Belief
05-28-2011, 09:11 AM
http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:11 AM
Does anyone have the live link where Casey cam is in the small box on the left of the screen?


It's wesh.com

BetteDavisEyes
05-28-2011, 09:11 AM
I wonder what the jury thinks of JBs objection to a receipt (along with all his other seemingly constant objections)?

Hopefully, the jury has noticed that JB objects to anything that might make his client look bad.

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 09:11 AM
George and Cindy seem a little more relaxed and closer than I've seen them.....the truth has set them free.

Miss Anarchy
05-28-2011, 09:11 AM
I wonder if the date on the receipt is going to become a problem. I know sometimes, especially if the receipt is on thermal paper, that as a receipt ages, the 6 & 8 become harder to distinguish from each other.

iluvmua
05-28-2011, 09:11 AM
June 16th is correct

Intermezzo
05-28-2011, 09:12 AM
Are we going to get Amy H. today??

'Morning, everyone!

I hope so...
I heard on the local news this morning that we may see Cindy and/or Lee on the witness stand today..

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:12 AM
If I have to waste me Sat morning not doing laundry, walking, grocery shopping and now NOT listening to testimony I'm going to be really irritated.

Oakley
05-28-2011, 09:12 AM
Whenever the camera pans to C & G, and Cindy is talking to G, G looks at the camera and puts his finger to his lips as if to say 'shhhhhhhhhh.'

watergirl
05-28-2011, 09:12 AM
George and Cindy seem a little more relaxed and closer than I've seen them.....the truth has set them free.

their issues pale in comparison

TakeNote
05-28-2011, 09:13 AM
maybe its from when the movies werer returned.

that could be true....maybe he paid for one day and had it two days and had to pay the difference on the 18th?

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:13 AM
I wonder if the date on the receipt is going to become a problem. I know sometimes, especially if the receipt is on thermal paper, that as a receipt ages, the 6 & 8 become harder to distinguish from each other.

I'm hoping FG has a chance to get a good look at it and clarify it.

Miss Anarchy
05-28-2011, 09:13 AM
Man, I hope its not CA or LA today. I really wanted to see them, but I can't watch all morning.

Intermezzo
05-28-2011, 09:13 AM
The defendant seems uptight today. I wish I knew what was going through her mind!

I was just listening to Bill S and he spoke with the DT yesterday and they feel they destroyed George yesterday.
Bill S said they must be at 2 different trial.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:13 AM
Gave him the due date!! Yay!

ZsaZsa
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
Does anyone remember what Tony is doing now? School- work?

BetteDavisEyes
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
Could the date confusion be the return date?

Softail
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
TL clarifying that 6/18 was the DUE date.

Miss Anarchy
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
WHEW! TL just said he gave the due date instead of the rental date.

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
who here said maybe it's the return date? You win an internet!

scotslass
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
Clarifying the date, it is now the 16th the 18th was the due date PHEW

Neptunian
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
Whenever the camera pans to C & G, and Cindy is talking to G, G looks at the camera and puts his finger to his lips as if to say 'shhhhhhhhhh.'

I noticed the woman in front of them is leaning backward in her seat with her ear cocked to listen - maybe this is why the shushing.

Miss Anarchy
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
Does anyone remember what Tony is doing now? School- work?

I believe he said he worked in Long Island, NY. Don't quite remember what exactly.

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:14 AM
they cleared up the date...June 18 was the actuall due date of the movie....

Omachka
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Is it on tv? Thanks

I'm watching on CF News 13. No ads and commentary only on breaks and sidebars.

fifteen89
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Sidebar again??? Yeesh.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Now what?

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Doesn't TL work for Blockbuster now?

Miss Anarchy
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Another flipping sidebar already!

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Does anyone remember what Tony is doing now? School- work?

Working at BestBuy and interning at a record label

suzihawk
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Darn it! I have to leave at 9:30 and they're wasting my time with these sidebars. :banghead:

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
I've just realized if I got up and started my exercises every time there is a sidebar called - I'd be in fantastic shape by the time this trial is over....

Beyond Belief
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
I believe TL said he worked at Best Buy and more schooling in LI.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:15 AM
Could the date confusion be the return date?

That's what it was.

Chiquita71
05-28-2011, 09:16 AM
HHJP: you may okay mr George

FG: thank you sir can you tell from that receipt when you went to blockbuster?

June 16th 2008

FG: what time where they wented 19:58 hours?

seven o'clock

FG: when you rented those movies was the defendant with you?

yes

(long pause)

sleutherontheside
05-28-2011, 09:16 AM
I love the Home Alone face Jeff makes.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:16 AM
July 16th..at home with Nate and ICA. Playing x box with Nate. ICA there, had been there all day.

SurfieTX
05-28-2011, 09:17 AM
TL sounds a little irritated about retelling of the story of Amy and Cindy coming.

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:17 AM
This part is all new to me...

smart blonde
05-28-2011, 09:18 AM
Tony being questioned about the night Amy H & Casey's mom came to Tony's apt.
ICA & Baez both look worried & uncomfortable.

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 09:18 AM
I was just listening to Bill S and he spoke with the DT yesterday and they feel they destroyed George yesterday.
Bill S said they must be at 2 different trial.

Yes, he also described the SA's process of how they are conducting the trial as "Brilliant" and "Masterful" - he was beyond words at their trial strategy.

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:18 AM
He seems to bookending the time period - I wonder if were going back to a chronological, fill-in-the gaps to these two events

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:19 AM
ICA and CA yelling at each other.

Why can he say what ICA said but not what CA said?

SurfieTX
05-28-2011, 09:19 AM
TL "sat there in shock" while Amy and Cindy were in his apt.

Sparky
05-28-2011, 09:19 AM
Tony looks more settled today.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:19 AM
TL sounds a little irritated about retelling of the story of Amy and Cindy coming.

I don't think so..I think it's just upsetting to relive. That's when the house of cards came down.

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:19 AM
arguement at TL apartment now....with CA and ICA..CA told casey to get her stuff and lets go, ICA sad no--she was coming back....then they left

SurfieTX
05-28-2011, 09:19 AM
TL figured "someone was in trouble" after hearing the exchange in and around the apt.

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:20 AM
FG: "When they left, what was your reaction?"
AL: "Uh, I guess, 'someone's in trouble.'"

Miss Anarchy
05-28-2011, 09:20 AM
ICA and CA yelling at each other.

Why can he say what ICA said but not what CA said?

It would be considered Hersay but I'm not clear why, since he heard CA say it.

Hunnie
05-28-2011, 09:20 AM
remember cindy told Tony....I hope you are rich because casey will take everything you got.. or.....something to the effect...

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:21 AM
This is confusing...what he can't say...

Patience
05-28-2011, 09:21 AM
Could someone please post who is showing ICA again, thank you.

momtective
05-28-2011, 09:21 AM
So the titles of the videos they rented at Blockbuster didn't make it in?

essies
05-28-2011, 09:21 AM
Could someone please post who is showing ICA again, thank you.

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

SurfieTX
05-28-2011, 09:22 AM
On second visit by sheriff, TL allowed one deputy to search the apt. Deputy did not leave with anything. Deputy was there for 1/2 hour.

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:22 AM
OC deputy came to get ICA phone..he also allowed them to search the apartment

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:22 AM
Wow, this poor guy...everyone coming to his door, he must have been shocked...

MvD
05-28-2011, 09:22 AM
Can someone "school" me on this... if TL heard for himself what Cindy or the Deputy said to HIM.. why is he not allowed to include that in his testimony?? Is it still considered hearsay if he heard it with his own ears?? tia

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 09:22 AM
ICA appears to be quite uncomfortable and not happy about this testimony.

Oakley
05-28-2011, 09:23 AM
I noticed the woman in front of them is leaning backward in her seat with her ear cocked to listen - maybe this is why the shushing.

Maybe but I don't think so. I've seen this happen several times. It is only after he looks in the camera that his finger goes up to his lips as if to say 'shhhhh.'

Tiki
05-28-2011, 09:23 AM
ICA looking from FG to TL - back and forth

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:23 AM
Can someone "school" me on this... if TL heard for himself what Cindy or the Deputy said to HIM.. why is he not allowed to include that in his testimony?? Is it still considered hearsay if he heard it with his own ears?? tia

I guess so, but he was able to say what Casey said, so I am not understanding this either...

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:23 AM
LA also came to TL's apartment...he was concerned..TL gave LA a bag of clothes of Casey, and a laptop! LA had asked for these things

Sparky
05-28-2011, 09:23 AM
Could someone please post who is showing ICA again, thank you.

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

nursebeeme
05-28-2011, 09:24 AM
Can someone "school" me on this... if TL heard for himself what Cindy or the Deputy said to HIM.. why is he not allowed to include that in his testimony?? Is it still considered hearsay if he heard it with his own ears?? tia

ianal, but it will all fit together when Lee, Cindy, Amy, etc testify... (otherwise if he said it right now it would be considered heresay)

in the end it will all fit MOO

BetteDavisEyes
05-28-2011, 09:24 AM
It would be considered Hersay but I'm not clear why, since he heard CA say it.

Others will likely testify to what they said. jmo

Oakley
05-28-2011, 09:24 AM
"Lee knows what he did" ?

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:25 AM
Was this his first night back from NY? Or what night did all this happen, thanks.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:25 AM
CA was always "suspicious" that ICAs bag was neatly packed; said ICA would never have it like that. Sounds to me like she had her bags packed and ready to go.

Hunnie
05-28-2011, 09:25 AM
This is when they found AH's checkbook among casey's belongings....introducing AH.....gosh I can't wait til Amy gets on the stand....wooohooo

Jenny60123
05-28-2011, 09:25 AM
TL: Wow, after everything I was taken aback.

Yeah, I'd totally say, I can't imagine living this experience.

butwhatif?
05-28-2011, 09:25 AM
Can someone "school" me on this... if TL heard for himself what Cindy or the Deputy said to HIM.. why is he not allowed to include that in his testimony?? Is it still considered hearsay if he heard it with his own ears?? tia

My only guess is that he can't testify to something they haven't laid a foundation for ??? But that really is just a guess.

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:25 AM
oohhh - can we see the text she sent him!

fifteen89
05-28-2011, 09:25 AM
FG: "When they left, what was your reaction?"
AL: "Uh, I guess, 'someone's in trouble.'"

'someone's in trouble'.
Understatement of the year??

Chiquita71
05-28-2011, 09:26 AM
FG: I want to direct your attention to July 16th were you at home?

me and nate

FG: what were you doing?

playing X box

FG: who else?

Casey

FG: had she been there all day, we are talking July 15th

baseball

FG: while you and nate were playing x box what happened?

knock at the door, come in, it was Amy Casey's friend. They looked at each other and they walked out. We went back to playing our game, Casey came running in, her mother was now standing at the door.

FG: had you met Cindy before?

no

FG: not stating what others said what did Casey say?

No, I'm coming back

FG: what did you do?

sat there in shock

FG: how long in apt?

no even a minute

FG: what happened then?

they left

FG: what was your reaction?

someone's in trouble

FG: call her?

I figured they had something to work out and I would hear from her.

I waited a while and called her phone and realized her phone was at the apt. I called amy because she showed up at the door.

FG: when the deputy came, did you say anything to him?

no sir

FG: did you give him anything?

her cell phone

FG: did you give the deputy anything else?

no

FG: how long was he there?

how long it took to give phone

FG: after the deputy left did you receive any calls?

no

FG: ?

Deputy came back

FG: how long after?

not long, an hour

FG: ?

I allowed the deputy search my apt.

FG: did he search?

yes

FG: did he leave with anything?

no

FG: he leaves

yes

FG: anyone else come?

Lee Anthony, came between nine and 12

FG: his demeanor?

Concerned, very concerned

FG: did you give anything to Lee?

yes

FG: did you ask him what was going on?

yes

before the deputy came, i got a phone call from Lee

FG: what did you give to Lee?

bag of clothes of Casey's and a laptop

FG: were these items he specifically asked for?

yes

FG: duffel bag?

duffel bag, when the deputy came he grabbed the bag and brought it to my kitchen table.

FG: did the deputy pack the bag?

no

FG: did you allow Lee to leave with that bag and laptop?

yes sir

FG: what was your reaction after lee left

wow, in light of everything that had happened in a couple of hours...

FG: any other visitors?

no

FG: try to contact Casey?

no

FG: 16th of july?

yes, text message

HHJP: you may

FG: LY take a moment to look thru that briefly.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:26 AM
I hope the judge reads the texts out loud for us! :giggle:

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:27 AM
TL looking at exhibit ....text message between Casey..morning of june 16....admitted into evidence

smart blonde
05-28-2011, 09:27 AM
Could someone please post who is showing ICA again, thank you.
Go to wftv.com.
Once there, click where it says, "LIVE BLOG".
It will take you to a new page w/ two smallish screens on the right hand side.
The top screen will show the witness/ courtroom.
The bottom will stay on Casey.

You will have to sit through a brief commercial on one, or both screens.
Don't worry, they are over fast.
Remember to turn down the volume on one of the screens.

Hope that helps!

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:27 AM
Did she put "if they don't find her guess who spends the rest of her life in jail" or was that a verbal comment? Anyone remember?

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:27 AM
Here we go. Text on the 16th between ICA and TL received in evidence.

Patience
05-28-2011, 09:27 AM
When Casey looks to her left, what does she see? And when she looks to her right what does she see? I wish I were in the courtroom.

iluvmua
05-28-2011, 09:27 AM
Where is the one where Casey says I'm going to get blamed for this if they d0on't find her" or something like that? was that a text message?

angelmom
05-28-2011, 09:28 AM
Watching Tony is very eye-opening. WAAAAY back when on July 16th I assumed he participated, knew, or was somehow involved in all of this. At the very least I assumed he was some punk (since he was with Casey). Later it came out that he wasn't involved, helped LE etc.

But now, looking at this clean cut kid, respectful and polite, I have done a 180 on him. He looks like an older version of my son...home playing xBox with his friends after school...and I can't help wondering how awful this has been not just for him but for his family and friends, and all the young people sucked into this nightmare.

If my son were in the middle of this I would be beside myself. The ripples on the pond spread far and wide with each of Casey's lies.

MyTinkieGirl
05-28-2011, 09:28 AM
I don't understand what KC can be saying to JB about something as solid as a text message....it looks like everytime she says something to him during a testimony....it's like she's trying to cover her butt to keep with her "story".

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:28 AM
Here we go!

panthera
05-28-2011, 09:28 AM
TL reading text message to court

He asked Casey "where's Caylee"?

"I don't know."

He was upset, angry.....

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 09:28 AM
I'm so sorry for not telling you

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
Wow - this is pretty powerful stuff! Even though I know all this and have read it over and over but listening to it in court is something else again.

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
"I'm so sorry for not telling you what happened we obviously need to talk I need you and I love you more than you know"

"What happened?"

"I don't know"

"I don't know.... r u serious?"

"I've been filling out reports all night and driving around with numerous officers to old apartments I've taken her to. I am the worst ******* person in the world. I don't know what I would do if something happened to her."

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
I don't understand what KC can be saying to JB about something as solid as a text message....it looks like everytime she says something to him during a testimony....it's like she's trying to cover her butt to keep with her "story".

She's saying "sidebar! sidebar!"

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
...what happened we obviously need to talk I love you and I need you more than you know.

fifteen89
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
Casey to TL: "I love you more than you know"
How many weeks did they know each other???

watergirl
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
My only guess is that he can't testify to something they haven't laid a foundation for ??? But that really is just a guess.

so many things you could digress on at this point, i think they are just trying to stay focused

Tiki
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
ICA wants JB to object

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
Did he say he felt sick and very angry or sad and very angry?

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
Him: Where's Caylee
Her: I honestly don't know
Him: I don't know, are you serious?

Jenny60123
05-28-2011, 09:30 AM
TL by text: Where is Caylee

ICA: I honestly don't know.

Liars use the word honestly to manipulate others into believing them without question, in my opinion.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:30 AM
I heart TL right now.

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:31 AM
text said ...i am so sorry for not telling you what happened, we need to talk, i love you and need you more than ever..?
where is Caylee?....I honestly dont know..
TL-I dont know..are u serious?
ICA ive been filling out reports all night, been driving around all night with detectives, I am the worst F$cking mom ever..i dont know what I will do if something happened to her..

Jenny60123
05-28-2011, 09:31 AM
ICA: "I'm the worst fu**en person in the world"

Hmmmmm, i'm going to not comment on this one for TOS. :)

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:31 AM
I don't know about any of this part, it is riveting to me...

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 09:31 AM
I am still stunned she got her cell given back to her overnight, but nice way to catch her out.

momtective
05-28-2011, 09:31 AM
CA text to Tony: I don't know what I'll do if something happens to her!

Well this does not bode well for the defense since they have claimed she drowned.

fifteen89
05-28-2011, 09:31 AM
So with the Defense's new theory, who came up with Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez? George? or Casey?

ETA: Remember the 'script' Casey was given by the 'kidnappers'? Who came up with that?

sleutherontheside
05-28-2011, 09:32 AM
The State is methodically making their case. It's like acupuncture needles.......planned, slow, deliberate.

sarag
05-28-2011, 09:32 AM
"I lied to everyone. What was I supposed to say? trust my child with some psycho?"

A lie on top of another lie.

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:32 AM
I don't know about any of this part, it is riveting to me...

not being snarky... Now you know why we've been here 3 years

Jenny60123
05-28-2011, 09:32 AM
TL: Well, I don't know what to say, i hope your daughter is ok and i'm going to do everything I can to help your family and the cops.

YEAH TONY!!!!!!!!!!!

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:32 AM
Here she spins it to make him feel bad for her. I was handcuffed boo hoo.

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:32 AM
Tony asks why wouldn't she tell him, he is her boyfriend who loves her, Casey responds she lied to everyone, what is she supposed to say she left her daughter with some fing psycho, and how would that look?

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
She likes that word "honestly"...

Tiki
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
she knows what's coming next now - CA's calls etc and she's pizzed

oh - pitiful me pouty face now

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
...what happened we obviously need to talk I love you and I need you more than you know.

He read that part at the beginning.

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
"I am the dumbest person and the worst mother. I honestly hate myself."
"I truly hope you can forgive me, granted I can never forgive myself nor will my family."

Snaz
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
I'm not sure if it's just me, but I really don't find Frank George to be overly effective when he questions the witnesses. He just doesn't seem to be quite as on the ball as LDB and JA.

JMHO

Jenny60123
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
TL: Who is this Zanny Nanny Person

momtective
05-28-2011, 09:33 AM
ICA: I am the dumbest person and the worst mother!

Truth within her lies! :floorlaugh:

imawitch
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
text said ...i am so sorry for not telling you what happened, we need to talk, i love you and need you more than ever..?
where is Caylee?....I honestly dont know..
TL-I dont know..are u serious?
ICA ive been filling out reports all night, been driving around all night with detectives, I am the worst F$cking mom ever..i dont know what I will do if something happened to her..

wow thanks...

Just wanted to let everyone know im working from home and trying to follow along..sadly my hubby tried fixing my pc speakers but its my sound card? argg..anyhoo, I guess ill have to watch later when insessions or HLN have replay..

but thank you, thank everyone for keeping me in the loop

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
ICA-I am the dumbest person and the worst person, i honestly hate myself
most important thing is getting back Caylee, I will never forgive myself, nor will my family....hmmmmmmm (MO-thought George already knew?)

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
Here comes version 1.0 of how she met Zanny

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
TL sounds as though he considered himself her boyfriend, not just a pick-up...

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
I never realized before how angry Tony L was and how he was not at all sympathetic and not playing ICA's game. It stopped when Amy walked in.

2goldfish
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
poor TL he is still so hurt by all this, he hides it well but it's there. it's terrible to see it coming through. none of them deserved this mess.

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
"I'm scared"

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
She likes that word "honestly"...

Absolutely.

Azcrabcakes
05-28-2011, 09:34 AM
Whenever the camera pans to C & G, and Cindy is talking to G, G looks at the camera and puts his finger to his lips as if to say 'shhhhhhhhhh.'

Hmmm. Can C&G see themselves on a screen? How do they know when the camera is on them? Do the cameras zoom so the audience can see the movement?

fifteen89
05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
Can you imagine what TL went through when this happened? He was involved with her. And then he finds out all her lies? There's no job at Universal Studios, there's no nanny......I can't imagine what was he thinking back then.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
It's all about her! It's all about how she needs a shower!

Mrs G Norris
05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
The cell messages and the nanny story coming are big time trouble for Casey. If the jury have truly heard little of this case they'll be already realizing the pool story is complete bunk and will make them want to punish her even harder for what she did to Caylee and what she's doing to George now.

Dum-Dum Sucker
05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
TL's first concern is for Caylee, not Casey, when his first response is, "Where is Caylee? You don't know? Are you kidding me?!" This guy has got integrity.

Oh, boohoohoo, ICA. Trying to illicit pity. It's all about ICA.

watergirl
05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
I never realized before how angry Tony L was and how he was not at all sympathetic and not playing ICA's game. It stopped when Amy walked in.

i have to wonder if TL has trust issues now

smart blonde
05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
Listening to Tony's honest & compelling testimony is like
watching the needle slide slowly into Casey's arm.

Hunnie
05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
I think Attorney George is nice looking.. a real Manly type man.....and I love the way he pops his rubberband !

ahi
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
:Banane01:I just LOVE Nightclub Promoters and Wrecker guys!:Banane01:

Intermezzo
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
Next, I hope the Prosecution plays that First Phone call home from jail ..
."I want Tony's Phone number...becaaaause she's my boyfriend..and calling you guys a huge waste"

Ssejors
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
WHO would be showering!?????? Finally getting a shower? That would have been the last thing on my mind. I would have gone with out a shower until i found my child!

Tiki
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
"I'm scared"

Bet she's more scared now....


.

MADJGNLAW
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
I must of missed these text messages, I don't recall reading them. If they are new, I wonder what else the state has that we have not seen? Are these new or did I miss them? TIA :blowkisses:

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
Bam! There it is! Guess who spends an eternity in jail!

cluciano63
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
Where was she that she was allowed to do all of this texting?

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
"If they don't find her, guess who gets blamed and spends an eternity in jail?"

"yea no ****, this is serious. Why wouldn't you say anything about this to anyone?"

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
I am glad they are connecting the dots here - all those buddies.

I wonder if we're going to get the "lie" about the 14,000 dollars in the bank...

MvD
05-28-2011, 09:36 AM
man.. she jumped to "guess who spends the rest of her life in jail" really quickly, didnt she??

xin
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
WHO would be showering!?????? Finally getting a shower? That would have been the last thing on my mind. I would have gone with out a shower until i found my child!

Casey is obsessed with showers.

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
Next, I hope the Prosecution plays that First Phone call home from jail ..
."I want Tony's Phone number...becaaaause she's my boyfriend..and calling you guys a huge waste"

Oh - I am very confident the SA has big plans to do that!!!

Laynee
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
ICA_have told and showed police the apartment, told them then drove out there with to officers, just got bakc from second drive...
if they dont find her, guess who gets blamed and spells eternity in jail..

TL-no ****, this is serious..why didnt you tell someone sooner?

Jenny60123
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
ICA "If they don't find her guess who gets to spend eternity in jail.

TL "yeah, No shi*, why didn't you tell this sooner?

Tiki
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
TL seems to be emotional re-reading the messages.

Wise Old Owl
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
ICA: "Its all my fault"

whoop der it is!!!

Intermezzo
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
Can you imagine what TL went through when this happened? He was involved with her. And then he finds out all her lies? There's no job at Universal Studios, there's no nanny......I can't imagine what was he thinking back then.

IMO, he was blown away.

Oakley
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
Hmmm. Can C&G see themselves on a screen? How do they know when the camera is on them? Do the cameras zoom so the audience can see the movement?

IDK in either case. SOrry

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
"I was scared to admit it. I was scared to admit something would happen to my baby."

Why is she shaking her head no right now as he reads that? Cause she wasn't scared something would happen to her baby?

Jenny60123
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
Casey is obsessed with showers.

I agree, I actually believe she thinks she can wash this all off of herself.

countzero
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
Where was she that she was allowed to do all of this texting?
ICA was at the A compound after being dropped off by LE.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
He called and his first question was "where's Caylee". This seems cathartic to him..letting everyone know he was angry at her and concerned for Caylee.

elfie
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
Where was she that she was allowed to do all of this texting?

She was still at home.

BigFatMommyDog
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
Where was she that she was allowed to do all of this texting?

At home hiding out in her bedroom - nobody wanted to upset her and she needed to get some rest...:maddening:

watergirl
05-28-2011, 09:38 AM
such dishonesty and betrayal, poor TonE

logicalgirl
05-28-2011, 09:39 AM
This is one PO'd dude! Lied to -betrayed - hard to explain, everything all at once.
He sounds like he is going to cry. Very very emotional.

belle3
05-28-2011, 09:39 AM
TL in the short time we have seen him on the stand has shown more emotion over caylee than casey ever has. smh!

TakingALook
05-28-2011, 09:39 AM
Tony's testimony is Great.....It is now so REAL vs reading this same stuff in doc dumps back when it came out. Hearing and Seeing Expressions from him gives it Life.

strawberry
05-28-2011, 09:39 AM
Doesn't she tell him she stole money for a backup plan and he says he didn't want to hear about no backup plan.

Eidetic
05-28-2011, 09:39 AM
TL: "It was basically a conversation that wasn't going anywhere."