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beach
05-26-2011, 12:37 PM
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beach
05-26-2011, 12:43 PM
Attention, please.

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Wise Old Owl
05-26-2011, 01:35 PM
bump - its open - sorry - we're all a little busy today

QueenD
05-26-2011, 01:35 PM
JB wants to bring witnes back later and not interview now

momshrink
05-26-2011, 01:35 PM
Is anyone here - I was locked out and lost!

Bullwinkle
05-26-2011, 01:35 PM
The judge turned his mic on just before saying, "Let's return the witness."

Wagara
05-26-2011, 01:35 PM
JB wants to take a witness out of turn...I couldn't hear who.

Stella5
05-26-2011, 01:35 PM
What is JB up to with Ricardo? Wants to take him out of turn in questioning because he is out of town and has an issue with coming back.

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 01:35 PM
Oh good, the door is unlocked - I was thinking it was just me or something had forgotten the secret word or something....

Blue Jackets fan
05-26-2011, 01:36 PM
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/moms/sites/tampabay.com.blogs.moms/files/images/typepad-legacy-files/42941.shared.missing_florida_girl_ny110.jpg

Celt1997
05-26-2011, 01:36 PM
Sounds like JB is going to be able to question Ricardo direct today, because they cannot afford to fly him back in later.

Drama Queen
05-26-2011, 01:36 PM
So like JB to raise a non-issue.

Softail
05-26-2011, 01:36 PM
CJBP is reading a stipulation about the bruise on Caylee's face in the photo what was discussed earlier.

They will read it to the jury prior to publishing the photo to the jury.

wvjules
05-26-2011, 01:36 PM
Working out a stipulation?

ETA: Nevermind. I see the post above mine.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:36 PM
Stipulation between DT and the State being read by JBP
Explaining the photo with Caylee's and the bruise

passionflower
05-26-2011, 01:36 PM
stipulation..........do not take bruise under eye as child abuse.......picture

iluvmua
05-26-2011, 01:37 PM
Where does Ricardo live now? I though he was originally from Orlando?

wvjules
05-26-2011, 01:37 PM
He lives in IL.

rice09
05-26-2011, 01:37 PM
Why are they not showing ICA as much today? Seems as though they only show her before proceedings begin. Is it me or am I just missing the shots of her??

Blue Jackets fan
05-26-2011, 01:37 PM
Here come the jury back out.

Wagara
05-26-2011, 01:38 PM
My layman understanding is that further questioning Ricardo requires info from the state not brought into evidence yet??

rosepetal1065
05-26-2011, 01:38 PM
I guess they are letting the photo in to evidence thanks to RM. They have signed something stating that the bruise is not from neglect cause by ICA

January.
05-26-2011, 01:38 PM
Where does Ricardo live now? I though he was originally from Orlando?

He moved to Illinois about a year and a half ago.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:38 PM
Where does Ricardo live now? I though he was originally from Orlando?

iirc,I don't think he was not originally from Orlando..but he did live here
It was said this morning he currently lives in Illinois. he is married and has a child.

Leila
05-26-2011, 01:38 PM
I couldn't get up early this morning and missed the whole morning. I know TL was to resume testifying this morning. Did anyone else take the stand?

my2sense
05-26-2011, 01:38 PM
Why are they not showing ICA as much today? Seems as though they only show her before proceedings begin. Is it me or am I just missing the shots of her??

I leave 2 windows open -- CNN tends to focus on Casey when the witness is on the stand

ami
05-26-2011, 01:38 PM
Bruise not child abuse. All agree.

iluvmua
05-26-2011, 01:39 PM
CJBP is reading a stipulation about the bruise on Caylee's face in the photo what was discussed earlier.

IMO, that photo should have been never introduced into evidence because Caylee could have very well fallen and that is why she had the bruise.

I think the state would have a hard time explaining how Caylee ended up with that bruise, if they are trying to prove that Caylee was possibly abused by Casey.

gibby207
05-26-2011, 01:39 PM
Breaking news: Lightning game is not carried at hotel!!

lillygator
05-26-2011, 01:39 PM
I wanted to say in the morning thread - I am surprised at the posters who are harping on the jury for asking for things....really? I would be asking for the moon at this point.
Give them the darn hockey game and pretzels...

ZsaZsa
05-26-2011, 01:39 PM
Didn't HHJP instruct them at the last hearing that the photo of Caylee with the bruise should be photo-shopped before showing it to the Jury?

Softail
05-26-2011, 01:39 PM
Aww.. The hockey game that the jury wanted to see in not shown in Orlando, so CJBP is going to try to get it taped for them. :blowkiss:

Bullwinkle
05-26-2011, 01:39 PM
Why are they not showing ICA as much today? Seems as though they only show her before proceedings begin. Is it me or am I just missing the shots of her??
You can watch two courtroom cameras, one of which is usually on Casey, here: http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

LoisDenominator
05-26-2011, 01:40 PM
I swear I just saw HHCJBP look to the sky with the universal "give me strength" face. Can't say I blame him.

ZsaZsa
05-26-2011, 01:40 PM
IMO, that photo should have been never introduced into evidence because Caylee could have very well fallen and that is why she had the bruise.

I think the state would have a hard time explaining how Caylee ended up with that bruise, if they are trying to prove that Caylee was possibly abused by Casey.

Ricardo already explained in his depo that he was present when Caylee ran into the corner of a table and sustained that bruise. The SA has never tried to imply abuse from that photo.

Softail
05-26-2011, 01:40 PM
Ricardo being asked about pictures he sold to the Globe in August of 2008. $4,000

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 01:40 PM
I couldn't get up early this morning and missed the whole morning. I know TL was to resume testifying this morning. Did anyone else take the stand?

Oh Lordy - you missed a morning! JB harassing George on the stand. It was bad!!

Stella5
05-26-2011, 01:41 PM
IMO, that photo should have been never introduced into evidence because Caylee could have very well fallen and that is why she had the bruise.

I think the state would have a hard time explaining how Caylee ended up with that bruise, if they are trying to prove that Caylee was possibly abused by Casey.

I agree with how Caylee got the bruise, because all toddlers are clumsy and tend to get bruised up from time to time... however... this picture is critical because it shows Caylee alive wearing the shirt that was found with her remains. MOO

Velouria
05-26-2011, 01:41 PM
I wanted to say in the morning thread - I am surprised at the posters who are harping on the jury for asking for things....really? I would be asking for the moon at this point.
Give them the darn hockey game and pretzels...

Oh, I don't blame them for asking for things. I just think they should be asking for MORE things. Like those rotten tomatoes I mentioned. And an automatic pitching machine would be nice, too. :innocent:

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:41 PM
State addressing the Globe article and photos..

GracieLu
05-26-2011, 01:41 PM
eeeek, he sold pictures to the Globe... i didn't know that...

BritsKate
05-26-2011, 01:41 PM
FG questioning Ricardo Morales...
Photo of Caylee going into evidence with stipulation bruise under eye is not to be considered abuse. FG brings up selling pics to Globe (diverting JB's Gotcha!). Received $4000.

January.
05-26-2011, 01:42 PM
You have to figure, these people are putting their entire lives on hold for this. Giving up their families, their jobs, for the next 6-8 weeks. They are getting paid next to nothing. I hardly think asking for some pretzels and a hockey game is too much to ask.

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 01:43 PM
Four Grand! I read it being reported at 20K! He is not a good bargainer!

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:43 PM
Photo admitted into Evidence..stipulation being read regarding the bruise under Caylee's eye

LoisDenominator
05-26-2011, 01:43 PM
Isn't it on NBC?

It's on Versus. (I know this because I'll be at my in-laws, and they don't have it either. Gah!) Lots of hotels don't carry it as it is not a super-popular channel.

Moe
05-26-2011, 01:43 PM
You have to figure, these people are putting their entire lives on hold for this. Giving up their families, their jobs, for the next 6-8 weeks. They are getting paid next to nothing. I hardly think asking for some pretzels and a hockey game is too much to ask.
Take them out to a sports bar.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:44 PM
Take them out to a sports bar.

I agree...It can be one of their Outings...

momshrink
05-26-2011, 01:44 PM
there is a camera that stays on ICA during the trial follow this link:
http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html

This is wftv in orlando. They are streaming the trial, but also have a blog and beside the blog is the stream of ICA. Interesting to keep that in a corner of my screen.

fifteen89
05-26-2011, 01:44 PM
Did he say he got $4,000 or $40,000 for the photo?

January.
05-26-2011, 01:45 PM
did he say he got $4,000 or $40,000 for the photo?

$4,000

Tricksy
05-26-2011, 01:45 PM
FG questioning Ricardo Morales...
Photo of Caylee going into evidence with stipulation bruise under eye is not to be considered abuse. FG brings up selling pics to Globe (diverting JB's Gotcha!). Received $4000.

Way hey! Another fellow Brit watching this? :)

I don't see why the DT can be sniffy about anyone selling anything, seeing as they sold stuff for a hell of a lot more $!

But that mention certainly will dampen Baez's bonfire in regards to him mentioning it on the cross.

Leila
05-26-2011, 01:45 PM
Oh Lordy - you missed a morning! JB harassing George on the stand. It was bad!!

Logicalgirl..............oh wow, wouldn't you know it that I'd miss something important. I was sooooo tired last night, I couldn't get up this morning. I got up at 10:00am today.

I'm going to have to find Patty's YouTube of this morning!

Thanks for the heads-up on this!

Puzzler
05-26-2011, 01:45 PM
did he say he got $4,000 or $40,000 for the photo?

4,000

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:45 PM
Baez Up to Cross

luckyme
05-26-2011, 01:46 PM
cross. this is gonna be long!

sunsetbeach
05-26-2011, 01:46 PM
I agree with how Caylee got the bruise, because all toddlers are clumsy and tend to get bruised up from time to time... however... this picture is critical because it shows Caylee alive wearing the shirt that was found with her remains. MOO

BBM

Agree!

wvjules
05-26-2011, 01:46 PM
I still have the Mr. George up?

ebedeeb
05-26-2011, 01:46 PM
no emotion at all from ICA while showing the photos of Caylee.

ami
05-26-2011, 01:46 PM
chloroform ad.

Horace Finklestein
05-26-2011, 01:47 PM
Anyone know of a feed showing ICA instead of only the witnesses?

tiredofthis
05-26-2011, 01:47 PM
Win her over with chloroform pic being shown.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:47 PM
Baez is going to show a photo..wonder if he will submit it into evidence

OH...the win her over with chloroform picture

QueenD
05-26-2011, 01:47 PM
Here goes the chloroform photo

Softail
05-26-2011, 01:47 PM
Oh boy! JB introducing the "Win her over with chloroform" MySpace posting.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:48 PM
DT not on the Ball ...

ami
05-26-2011, 01:48 PM
Anyone know of a feed showing ICA instead of only the witnesses?

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

BetteDavisEyes
05-26-2011, 01:48 PM
JB has no idea what he's doing.

Quiche
05-26-2011, 01:48 PM
Logicalgirl..............oh wow, wouldn't you know it that I'd miss something important. I was sooooo tired last night, I couldn't get up this morning. I got up at 10:00am today.

I'm going to have to find Patty's YouTube of this morning!

Thanks for the heads-up on this!

Psst-- IS has it on now for the west coast!

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
Why does he not have a copy to submit into evidence??? Wow!! He is so unprepared!

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/25q6vjq.jpg

entered into evidence

wvjules
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
I am wayyyyy behind. What feed are you all watching? I'm on wftv.

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
Great...the picture Baez handed in is not 100% the same as is on the monitor.

AmyinTheHam
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
JB wants to admit as evidence, but needs hardcopy of photo to do so... Need to print out original using another as provisional...

Miziree
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
Anyone know of a feed showing ICA instead of only the witnesses?

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html

Here you go.

Amster
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
WFTV link has a choice to just watch ICA

ami
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
JB smiling as he publishes image to jury. Ricardo looks pissed.

shellsbells
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
Just saying, if Myspace pictures made people do things there would be a lot of glittery porn stars around. Is it bad that I think that picture is hilarious?

OneLostGrl
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/OneLostGrl/Caylee/courtkccaylee.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/OneLostGrl/Caylee/courtc2.jpg

rosepetal1065
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
The dreaded win her over with choroform pic

momshrink
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
Anyone know of a feed showing ICA instead of only the witnesses?

See post #54

sarag
05-26-2011, 01:49 PM
What do you guys think that chloroform post even means? Like, the actual meaning behind him making it other than in comparison of a jewelry ad. TIA

QueenD
05-26-2011, 01:50 PM
JB smiling as he publishes image to jury. Ricardo looks pissed.

He did a slight head shake no

Cher352
05-26-2011, 01:50 PM
JB doesn't seem to understand how to get the photo into evidence....has he actually taken a case to trial or has he only settled or accepted a plead before?

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 01:50 PM
Logicalgirl..............oh wow, wouldn't you know it that I'd miss something important. I was sooooo tired last night, I couldn't get up this morning. I got up at 10:00am today.

I'm going to have to find Patty's YouTube of this morning!

Thanks for the heads-up on this!

It was mainly about the gas cans - Baez was trying to do a switcheroo...

fifteen89
05-26-2011, 01:50 PM
$4,000

Thanks. I was gonna say, whoa wait a sec.....

kpalma715
05-26-2011, 01:51 PM
Did anyone else notice the stare he did towards the defense table and slight nod of his head?

luckyme
05-26-2011, 01:51 PM
Ricardo is gonna be antsy with this!! I hope state ask him if he ever used chlorform with casey!

Eileen730
05-26-2011, 01:51 PM
Win her over with Chloroform!

Interesting!

mikeysmommom
05-26-2011, 01:51 PM
I just hope KC could not sleep either last night, I missed the morning session. I want to thank everyone because I know later when I read the morning court thread with our members here it will be informative.

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 01:51 PM
So a picture of "win her over with chloroform" made Casey do searches for making chloroform and then having massive amounts of chloroform in the trunk of her car?

kpalma715
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
When the Globe came with $4000 it was ok to talk them? YES!!!

LMAO

gibby207
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
You know.... When Mr. George was introducing photos, it was so professional and seamless. Mr. Baez comes up to cross and more mumbling, bumbling, and reprimands from Judge Perry. Sheeeesh.

2goldfish
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
poor ricardo, he just wants this over with.

Stella5
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
What do you guys think that chloroform post even means? Like, the actual meaning behind him making it other than in comparison of a jewelry ad. TIA

I honestly think it was just an immature guy trying to be funny on his myspace account. Nothing more, nothing less. DT is trying to make it into much more, and possibly pointing the finger towards him for the Chloroform search or murdering Caylee. Ruthless and immoral... point fingers everywhere but at your client.

January.
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
RM looks very annoyed to be here, rolling his eyes a lot.

Wholehearted
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
I'm not clear on why JB making RM look bad somehow for selling the pictures helps the DT case.

Celt1997
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
Very strange to hear MySpace at the center of all of this. I just expect to hear "Facebook" when people talk about social media. Shows just how long this case has been simmering.

jumpinjack
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
OT
TMZ reporting IRS filed a tax lien against Casey for failing to pay $68k in taxes back in 2008.

ohiogirl
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
Can't believe he is bringing up the selling of pictures. Hypocrit!

luckyme
05-26-2011, 01:52 PM
So a picture of "win her over with chloroform" made Casey do searches for making chloroform and then having massive amounts of chloroform in the trunk of her car?

Maybe they used it while they were dating! just an opinion.

smart blonde
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
Pot meet kettle.....

Baez making a big deal about Ricardo selling pics to the Globe for $4,000, when Casey sold pics for what? $250,000?

Reality Orlando
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
This guy is not happy about these questions.

iluvmua
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
does tony still live in Orlando, or did he move back to New York?

I missed the beginning of today.

MissDiva
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
Sorry, I missed the first 15 minutes of the afternoon session. Who's on trial? Is it no longer Casey Anthony?

MaryAnn
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
JB repeating that Caylee slept in bed with them. yikes!! Poor Caylee in bed with Mom and boyfriend

luv
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/24zc49i.jpg

ohiogirl
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
He should say that he wishes he had received as much as JB did!

Leila
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
RM is not happy with JB - he just rolled his eyes, very slightly. :)

dog.gone.cute
05-26-2011, 01:54 PM
no emotion at all from ICA while showing the photos of Caylee.

What station is showing ICA ?? Thanks.

eaglemom
05-26-2011, 01:54 PM
Ricardo says never talked to ICA about chlorform

Says ICA slept between him and Caylee (JB said Caylee slept between him and ICA)

sarag
05-26-2011, 01:54 PM
does tony still live in Orlando, or did he move back to New York?

I missed the beginning of today.

He lives in Long Island, NY again.

MissDiva
05-26-2011, 01:54 PM
At least Ricardo is being honest, even if it's painful.

cityslick
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
I honestly think it was just an immature guy trying to be funny on his myspace account. Nothing more, nothing less. DT is trying to make it into much more, and possibly pointing the finger towards him for the Chloroform search or murdering Caylee. Ruthless and immoral... point fingers everywhere but at your client.

BBM

I'm not defending what he's doing, but do you know that is exactly the job of a defense attorney? To deflect away from your client or to portray your client in the most positive light?

Softail
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
I think JB forgot to roll the bus over Ricardo in his opening. So, he is doing it now. Ricardo's fault for the chloroform. :rolleyes:

wvjules
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
He lives in Long Island, NY again.

I thought he said he was living in IL now? :waitasec: Or was that another witness from this morning?

MelissaLee
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
Oh. Em. Gee. Is JB seriously trying to imply that RM's posting that stupid, meaningless pic on his MS page somehow influenced KC or maybe even gave KC the idea to whip up some chloroform and possibly use it on Caylee? SOOOOOOOOOOOO lame!

~Lisa~
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
does tony still live in Orlando, or did he move back to New York?

I missed the beginning of today.

he moved back to New York

Moe
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
Ricardo says never talked to ICA about chlorform

Says ICA slept between him and Caylee (JB said Caylee slept between him and ICA)
That is plain disgusting, poor little girl.

jumpinjack
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
what station is showing ica ?? Thanks.

wftv.

Tricksy
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
Ricardo says never talked to ICA about chlorform

Says ICA slept between him and Caylee (JB said Caylee slept between him and ICA)

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html

ami
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
Jb's questions are so long and convoluted, who knows what he's actually asking!

gelfie68
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
At least Ricardo is being honest, even if it's painful.

Most of her "friends" really have nothing to gain or lose by testifying. So there is no reason not to be truthful, IMO

January.
05-26-2011, 01:55 PM
So what is JB trying to prove here with dwelling on the chloroform picture on RM's MySpace and selling a picture of Caylee? What point is he trying to get across?

beach
05-26-2011, 01:56 PM
OT
TMZ reporting IRS filed a tax lien against Casey for failing to pay $68k in taxes back in 2008.

Please open a new thread to continue this discussion. It is worthy of it's own thread, however it will derail the Trial thread. :tyou:

AmyinTheHam
05-26-2011, 01:56 PM
my feed went down... grrr I missed about 5 minutes...

Sistah Sleuth
05-26-2011, 01:56 PM
This witness is my kind of guy that I would want to date. *rolls eyes* I state this so that I don't say something that would get me banned.

Sparky
05-26-2011, 01:56 PM
What station is showing ICA ?? Thanks.

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

sarag
05-26-2011, 01:56 PM
I thought he said he was living in IL now? :waitasec:

The OP was asking about Tony Lazzaro. He moved back to NY, right?

MissDiva
05-26-2011, 01:56 PM
"I don't believe so" when asked if he'd ever be intimate with Casey when Caylee was in the bed.
:sick:

Blue Jackets fan
05-26-2011, 01:56 PM
Ricardo says never talked to ICA about chlorform

Says ICA slept between him and Caylee (JB said Caylee slept between him and ICA)

Oh good grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need to bleach that out of my head!!!!!!!!!

rosepetal1065
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
Redirect of RM

tiredofthis
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
Asking if he was intimate with Casey while Caylee was present. He said he didn't think so.

Stella5
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
I am SO certain DT is reading here... someone earlier on the sidebar asked do we know if Ricardo & Casey had sexual relations with Caylee in the same bed... that issue was just raised here on WS this morning! Hi defense team! I'll start throwing more crazy theories at you and see how many you use!

Celt1997
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
So what is JB trying to prove here with dwelling on the chloroform picture on RM's MySpace and selling a picture of Caylee? What point is he trying to get across?

Basically he's trying to make him look like a liar, an opportunist, and someone who has nothing to contribute to the trial.

BostonSu
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
Oh. Em. Gee. Is JB seriously trying to imply that RM's posting that stupid, meaningless pic on his MS page somehow influenced KC or maybe even gave KC the idea to whip up some chloroform and possibly use it on Caylee? SOOOOOOOOOOOO lame!

Especially since , according to JB, Caylee DROWNED?:maddening:

luckyme
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
Uhoh If casey saw the chloroform stuff on myspace she might have just googled to see what it was not to hurt caylee! I think that was what was going on.

Blue Jackets fan
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
Do you know what coloform is?
It is to put a person to sleep

OneLostGrl
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/OneLostGrl/Caylee/courtrandc.jpg

galerie
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html

everytime I click that link, commericals are showing

imawitch
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
"I don't believe so" when asked if he'd ever be intimate with Casey when Caylee was in the bed.
:sick:

that makes me feel iccky that he hesitated, then said I dont believe so..jmo

Caylee shouldnt have been in that bed at all,jmo

January.
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
Basically he's trying to make him look like a liar, an opportunist, and someone who has nothing to contribute to the trial.

Gotcha, thanks.

Eileen730
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
So a picture of "win her over with chloroform" made Casey do searches for making chloroform and then having massive amounts of chloroform in the trunk of her car?

I think yes. It gave her ideas! JMO

It seems she needed a man to be in her life t all times she was Juggling AL and
RM at the same time.. she had broken up awith RM but while seeing AL she was still going over RM's apt... I guess she was keeping her options open and ill bet she was calling RM when AL thought she was talking to her mom or the (NANNY)....JMO

MissDiva
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
Most of her "friends" really have nothing to gain or lose by testifying. So there is no reason not to be truthful, IMO

Except that it doesn't make him look great. Not saying I'd lie if I were him, but he's being very forthcoming. No excuses or anything.

ohiogirl
05-26-2011, 01:58 PM
So what is JB trying to prove here with dwelling on the chloroform picture on RM's MySpace and selling a picture of Caylee? What point is he trying to get across?

Your guess is a good as mine.

BetteDavisEyes
05-26-2011, 01:59 PM
Baez trying to implicate RM in the search for chloroform on Casey's computer.

Drama Queen
05-26-2011, 01:59 PM
does tony still live in Orlando, or did he move back to New York?

I missed the beginning of today.

TL is now residing in Long Island.

lemon
05-26-2011, 01:59 PM
Oh. Em. Gee. Is JB seriously trying to imply that RM's posting that stupid, meaningless pic on his MS page somehow influenced KC or maybe even gave KC the idea to whip up some chloroform and possibly use it on Caylee? SOOOOOOOOOOOO lame!

No I think the implication is that she saw the pic and didn't understand what chloroform was so she searched for it on google.

sarag
05-26-2011, 01:59 PM
"I don't believe so" when asked if he'd ever be intimate with Casey when Caylee was in the bed.
:sick:

Disgusting. Not only is there a small child on the edge of the bed that could easily fall off while sleeping. But he's insinuating that there was a possibility that they could have been intimate whilst Caylee lie there asleep in the same bed. I'd consider that neglect on its own.

JSR
05-26-2011, 01:59 PM
He's annoyed with JB's objections.

CementPond
05-26-2011, 02:00 PM
Or at some point they are gonna say Casey remembered that pic and searched the word in hopes of finding the pic cause she wanted it for whatever reason. That that's the reason she searched that word.

Baez trying to implicate RM in the search for chloroform on Casey's computer.

SondraK
05-26-2011, 02:00 PM
"I don't believe so" when asked if he'd ever be intimate with Casey when Caylee was in the bed.
:sick:

Then where DID oyou have relations with her. Surely he does not expect us to believe they did not have relations in all that time

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 02:00 PM
DT not on the Ball ...

I hope you were not expecting me to respond with surprise to that comment Intermezzo. :great:

BigFatMommyDog
05-26-2011, 02:00 PM
everytime I click that link, commericals are showing
most of them play a commercial first before you are connected = I for one am so sick of e-surance that I most certainly never consider their services.

Miziree
05-26-2011, 02:00 PM
everytime I click that link, commericals are showing

It went through 3 before for me before it went live...

LolaMoon08
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Uhoh If casey saw the chloroform stuff on myspace she might have just googled to see what it was not to hurt caylee! I think that was what was going on.

Why would she search "How to make chloroform?" if she just wanted to see what it was? And make those searches in unison with household weapons, neck breaking, shovel, inhaling, death, etc...??

Eileen730
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Gotcha, thanks.

Hey i dont blame him for selling the pics!
I think this guy is very angry about the babys death at least he took pics of her!
It seems he knows he is gonna be in the deep fryer LOL...

luckyme
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Maybe the pictures she sold...Have to pay taxes on income

Yes thats it!

HRCODEPINK
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Disgusting. Not only is there a small child on the edge of the bed that could easily fall off while sleeping. But he's insinuating that there was a possibility that they could have been intimate whilst Caylee lie there asleep in the same bed. I'd consider that neglect on its own.

In the Commonwealth of Virginia, that's child abuse.

OneLostGrl
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
everytime I click that link, commericals are showing

It usually shows like 2 or 3 but then the trial shows up. Turn the volume down all the way on one of them or they will both scream at you, they are not in synch

stilettos
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Disgusting. Not only is there a small child on the edge of the bed that could easily fall off while sleeping. But he's insinuating that there was a possibility that they could have been intimate whilst Caylee lie there asleep in the same bed. I'd consider that neglect on its own.

Ah...yeah!

eaglemom
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
The wftv link shows a commercial every hour and then goes back to the trial

BigFatMommyDog
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Then where DID oyou have relations with her. Surely he does not expect us to believe they did not have relations in all that time

No - just not IN THE BED when CAYLEE WAS IN THE BED

Jetaime
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
I believe JB is trying to allude to the fact that ICA noticed the picture on RM's Myspace, and that would explain the 'choloform' searches on her CP. She was just *curious* what it was. Lame... but enough to raise reasonable doubt? I feel like I'm going to be sick....

TotallyObsessed
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
How bumbling was alll THAT? FG just needs to say ... you went to bed with Casey and Caylee on June 9th right? You woke up with only Casey, right?

duh

BetteDavisEyes
05-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Or at some point they are gonna say Casey remembered that pic and searched the word in hopes of finding the pic cause she wanted it for whatever reason.

Or possibly that RM used chloroform on Caylee to get her to sleep while he and Casey were intimate ;)

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 02:02 PM
No I think the implication is that she saw the pic and didn't understand what chloroform was so she searched for it on google.

Well, Mr. Baez is going to have to come up with some other reasons for why ICA searched how to make chloroform once she knew what it was...IMO

Mendara
05-26-2011, 02:02 PM
so RM did not remember saying he went to sleep with both of them and then woke up and caylee was gone?

Shadow5618
05-26-2011, 02:02 PM
Boy, I bet Cindy and George are apoplectic at the thought of little Caylee sleeping in this strange man's bed with Casey.

BritsKate
05-26-2011, 02:02 PM
Way hey! Another fellow Brit watching this? :)

I don't see why the DT can be sniffy about anyone selling anything, seeing as they sold stuff for a hell of a lot more $!

But that mention certainly will dampen Baez's bonfire in regards to him mentioning it on the cross.

Actually I'm American but I'm married to a Brit. :blushing: Caylee has touched hearts worldwide but this case broke the same year I left the States and I followed along from this side of the Atlantic. Thank heavens for WS!

butterfly1978
05-26-2011, 02:02 PM
It really erks me that JB would say something to Ricardo about selling that picture for $4,000, when JB sold pictures for how much $200,000 dollars.. You know I would absolutely love the prosecution to say we call JB to the stand and ask him about the pictures he sold, when Caylee supposedly drowned on the 16th. Why would a mother sell her only photos of the child that she claims drown to defend herself..

barrysgirl
05-26-2011, 02:02 PM
why is mr. george doing all this questioning? is it just me or is he very defensive with witnesses at times?

sunsetbeach
05-26-2011, 02:02 PM
RM soooo does not want to be there.

luckyme
05-26-2011, 02:03 PM
Why would she search "How to make chloroform?" if she just wanted to see what it was? And make those searches in unison with household weapons, neck breaking, shovel, inhaling, death, etc...??

Ok you got me on that. I just thought defense was gonna say she saw the picture and googled it because she didnt know what it was. But most of us knows that isnt the truth.

PrintGal
05-26-2011, 02:03 PM
No I think the implication is that she saw the pic and didn't understand what chloroform was so she searched for it on google.

Which would not account for the searches on how to make it. Generic 'what is it' may be able to be explained by that, but she also googled how to make it and also specific key ingredients.

Soulmagent
05-26-2011, 02:03 PM
The date of the search from the date of the photo posted could show or imply Casey was trying to figure out why he posted that.

Maybe wondering if he ever made it..etc.etc.

TotallyObsessed
05-26-2011, 02:03 PM
Thank you. There it is. How hard was that?????????????????????????????

fifteen89
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
everytime I click that link, commericals are showing

After the commercial, it shows the trial.

beach
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
Please open a new thread to continue this discussion. It is worthy of it's own thread, however it will derail the Trial thread. :tyou:

I have removed 9 posts referencing the TMZ article / tax lien. PLEASE OPEN A NEW THREAD.

FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD ABOUT THIS OR SPORTS REFERENCES ARE GOING TO RESULT IN IT BEING LOCKED.

TALK ABOUT THE TRIAL OR PLEASE GO TO THE CHAT ROOM.

lib's mom
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
Oh good. JB's here to clear up any confusion. Thank goodness.

January.
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
RM to JB: "I don't understand what you're getting at."

None of us do, Ricardo.

Softail
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
:lol: RM tells JB - I don't understand what you are getting at.

MissDiva
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
RM - "I don't understand what you're getting at" to JB.

This seems to be a trend. Whenever JB speaks I experience symptoms of annoyance and confusion.

whiteangora
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
How bumbling was alll THAT? FG just needs to say ... you went to bed with Casey and Caylee on June 9th right? You woke up with only Casey, right?

duh

FGS! Please let Linda or JA do the questioning. FG is not making sense or asking the right questions.

eaglemom
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
JB trying to get Ricardo to say Caylee only in bed once with them

now moved on to ICA good mother

QueenD
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
Good gawd, JB goes from one question, to something totally different.

eileenhawkeye
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
Did you ever see Caylee run to Casey? What are these questions?

raysgirl1126
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
Just so there is not any confusion, but lets make it more confusing

miimaa
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
Jeff Ashton's face! He's confounded by JB's questions.

lemon
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
Well, Mr. Baez is going to have to come up with some other reasons for why ICA searched how to make chloroform once she knew what it was...IMO

Oh I agree. I'm not buying what he's selling; just saying I saw where he was going. Or trying to go, lol.

OneLostGrl
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/OneLostGrl/Caylee/courtrandc-1.jpg

MissDiva
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
RM - "I can answer this one?" after all the objections. LOL

Softail
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
Oh boy! Here we go with the was Caylee hungry, happy, run to Casey....

Tricksy
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
I think yes. It gave her ideas! JMO

It seems she needed a man to be in her life t all times she was Juggling AL and
RM at the same time.. she had broken up awith RM but while seeing AL she was still going over RM's apt... I guess she was keeping her options open and ill bet she was calling RM when AL thought she was talking to her mom or the (NANNY)....JMO

Isn't there another guy she was chatting up as well aside from RM, AL and the ex LEO?

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was another guy she was chatting up? Possibly called WW?

Amster
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
Why is this soooo confusing???? Caylee slept with them always except that one night.

AmyinTheHam
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
Oh goodness, I don't watch trials this is a first, is all this common? The confusion and such?

BigFatMommyDog
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
WHOA she had issues with CAylee going to sleep!

chasing.halos
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
Worst. Interviewer. Ever

Bobbarita
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
uh oh. KC disciplining Caylee going to sleep...

Stella5
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
She had issues with Caylee going to sleep, she'd discipline her then... it was an ongoing issue. HELLO Chloroform!

Bon
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM
She had ISSUES putting Caylee to sleep!!! Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

wenwe4
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
RM on stand . . .JB doing cross . . . JB hands over photo to HHBP . . . HHBP asks if has given the court the original picture not a copy . . . .JB publishes photo to jury "Win her over with Cholorform" ad . . . this was posted on RM's myspace . . . . they were dating in Mar. 2008, RM posted pic when he was dating KC, found it humorous @ the time . . .just a joke . . .never mentioned chloroform to KC that he recalls . .. mentioned he sold photos to Globe Magazine . . .they approached him . . .he had not spoken to the media but when "Globe came knocking with $4k you started talking to media" . . .(yes) . . . RM admits he sold pics . . . (RM rolls eyes & pops his tongue) . . . 3-4 nights a week Caylee would sleep on the on other side of kc in same bed . . . (JB wanting the statement of 7/25/08 . . .objection . . .counsel reading transcript instead of witness testify . . . .JB no requirement it be a question . . . HHBP read him the question . . .)
there was one time when were dating she actually started . . . while they were both in my bed. . . .

JB: aside from the chloroform ad on your myspace and selling pics of Caylee . . . is anything you witnessed on 6/16/08
RM: in regards to KC . . NO

JB: you wouldn't be intimate with kc with Caylee in the bed (don't think so) myspace is common method you and friends communicated with back in 2008. (yes)

Mr. G: how many pics have you uploaded to your myspace account . . .
RM I don't know, don't know the dates, the year . . . maybe 2008 . . . I know what chloroform is used for to put people to sleep if they inhale it . . . I never did chloroform searches on internet . . .

the Detective and I were referring to one night . . . on 6/9? (objection . . .overruled)
kc & Caylee stayed over on 6/9 to 6/10 . . . both slept in same bed with RM, the question Det. Edwards was asking was not on 6/9. I didn't recall the dates but only morning I woke up and Caylee was not there but KC was. . . .


Mr. G referring RM to refresh his memory . . . pg 1290 line 8 - 1291 line 21.

RM the night that I woke up without Caylee in the bed was not the night of June 9th, kc said her Mother called in the middle of night and asked her to bring Caylee home . . .

I don't recall rest of morning. . . woke up Kc in bed, Caylee was not. RM was not awake for phone call . . .kc said that the reason she left in middle of night.

JB: you are saying there is only one time Caylee was not in the same bed . . .

RM I don't understand what you are getting at

JB witness kc's interraction w/Caylee. . .did you see how Caylee reacted (objection . . . HHBP Mr. Baez . . . .)

RM I saw Caylee interact w/KC, never went hungry . .. kc hug Caylee . . .
appear genuine . . appear happy (objections)
didn't seek kc strike, torture, punish in method consider torture . . .

Caylee had trouble going to sleep . . . only time RM saw kc discipline Caylee . . . normal mother putting child to sleep.

JB no further questions . . .

witness is excused

Jetaime
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Perfect ending RM! Love it :)

Mendara
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
hahaha RM just said KC would get angry and discipline CAYlee when putting her to sleep.

I bet the chloroform worked later on.

Soulmagent
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Humm wonder why JB didnt ask if he ever saw her use chloform . to get her to sleep.

JSR
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Man he can't book it out of there quick enough ... lol

lyrasong
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Why didn't the SA ask Ricardo about the issues Casey had with Caylee going to sleep?

ami
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Torture? Seriously?

January.
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Well! KC must be mother of the year because nobody saw her ever abusing Caylee.

jharres
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
Hmmm....so JB is proving what with these questions? Is he trying to say, because ICA didn't torture Caylee, she couldn't have murdered her?

eaglemom
05-26-2011, 02:07 PM
JB asks for minute to get file.... HHJP "where ARE your files" lol

amayla
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Melissa England? is up next

sunsetbeach
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
These two are great side by side (I mute wftv) in case you want to see the witness and ICA at the same time.

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=2

JSR
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Yes, where are your files JB?

lemon
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Wow, interesting! Problems getting Caylee to sleep... Glad that RM put that out there. I wonder if there were any problems getting her to sleep on June 15th?

Eidetic
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
RM: "From what I saw and from what I experienced..."

I love it.

He also witnessed Casey having trouble getting Caylee to sleep and that is the only time he saw Casey discipline her. uh oh defense...

Softail
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Melissa England is up next.

JB :tears: again about needing his file.

CJBP is annoyed - Go get the file, but bring the witness in.

miimaa
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Judge asks JB "Where are your files?" because JB needs extra prep time again

tiredofthis
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Lol...HHJP asking where JB's files are.

Bobbarita
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Judge: Where are your files? What happened to the space I gave you?

Reminds me of my Mom's questions when I was a kid...

darcedarce
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Well! KC must be mother of the year because nobody saw her ever abusing Caylee.

Yeah and according to the DT ICA is good at lying and hiding things...what a surprise that nobody saw this.

tehcloser
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
JB tried to be a sneaky little devil there and it blew up in his face.

eaglemom
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Melissa england - lives in Boston now

Dum-Dum Sucker
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
She had ISSUES putting Caylee to sleep!!! Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

:eek: That took a nasty turn for Baez.

eileenhawkeye
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Wow, all these witnesses left Florida lol

Intermezzo
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
I don't remember who Melissa E is

MissDiva
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Well! KC must be mother of the year because nobody saw her ever abusing Caylee.

Or buy guns from Blockbuster or chloroform from JC Penney's.

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
For those who are having trouble with commercials, this is a very good address to watch the trial..no interrruptions at all.

It is http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/

BetteDavisEyes
05-26-2011, 02:08 PM
A normal mother trying to get her daughter to go to sleep.

JB doesn't know where his files are!

Horace Finklestein
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
So she "disciplined" Caylee when she wouldn't sleep??

GetSmart
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Awww poor old Jose has to go get files ..playing that dead dog for what it is worth geeezzz

sarag
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Why do they keep bringing up if Caylee was happy with Casey? If she fed her, tortured her, etc? Their defense is that she drowned on accident. Can someone help me understand what torture has to do with an accident? Thank you! :fence:

Noddy
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
It's great meeting all the characters we've read so much about over the years. Absolutely fascinating.

Cortne
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
she had issues with caylee going to sleep, she'd discipline her then... It was an ongoing issue. Hello chloroform!


bam!!

SailorMoon
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
No notice to get the files -- Judge - Where are your files??? Go get them.

GEEZE JB -- when you get your act together come back and try a case!!!

the seeker
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
SHE HAD ISSUES WITH CAYLEE GOING TO SLEEP...thats interesting.....

kaRN
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Chloroform guy says the only discipline issue he saw was ICA had problems getting Caylee to sleep.

He really did and JB made him repeat it. Ahhhhh the irony is rich. :)

logicalgirl
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Poor Melissa - she looks nervous...

passionflower
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
WHOA she had issues with CAylee going to sleep!

BBM.........SLEEP!! oh boy another nail added to ICA coffin!

eaglemom
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
dated Troy Brown and was visiting July 2nd

Kenziema
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Who is this girl?

iluvmua
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Melissa England? is up next

Is Melissa the one who accompanied Casey to the Tattoo place?

Bullwinkle
05-26-2011, 02:10 PM
"The only time I saw her discipline Caylee was when she was trying to put her to sleep."

Eileen730
05-26-2011, 02:10 PM
Isn't there another guy she was chatting up as well aside from RM, AL and the ex LEO?

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was another guy she was chatting up? Possibly called WW?

Yes there was the LEO. I think she was a good Juggler!

iluvmua
05-26-2011, 02:10 PM
Who is this girl?

I believe she is the one who accompanied Casey to the Tattoo Parlor

passionflower
05-26-2011, 02:11 PM
what is on her neck? tat?

Moe
05-26-2011, 02:11 PM
So she "disciplined" Caylee when she wouldn't sleep??
Would not have been a problem if Caylee was sleeping in her own bed.

Bobbarita
05-26-2011, 02:11 PM
Jb must be getting so stressed out. It's like when you get so obsessed about NOT making a mistake, you keep making them because you're trying not to...

cleo612
05-26-2011, 02:11 PM
Yes, where are your files JB?

Utterly amazing--once again!

HHJP gave the DT/Baez a specific area for them to keep their files close by and handy, and the DT/Baez STILL is not prepared.

I am in awe of HHJP's patience level--he has some tremendous self-control, because if I was sitting in his seat, I would be slapping fines upon fines on the DT for wasting the Court's time.

Celt1997
05-26-2011, 02:11 PM
Why do they keep bringing up if Caylee was happy with Casey? If she fed her, tortured her, etc? Their defense is that she drowned on accident. Can someone help me understand what torture has to do with an accident? Thank you! :fence:

They don't have to prove the accidental drowning. However, the State is trying to paint a picture of someone who, possibly, abused her daughter and then eventually killed her. In light of what the State is trying to prove, based on their burden, he has to counter their take on ICA being evil, by painting her to be a good mother.