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beach
05-30-2011, 10:30 PM
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beach
05-31-2011, 01:00 PM
I'm going to make some exceptions and clarify a few things so hopefully we are a little clearer about what is okay to post in this thread and what is to be saved for Sidebar. Sorry for the confusion. Hope this helps. :)

Re. posting Tweets: Previously we have requested that all tweets be restricted from this thread and posted in the Twitter thread. Posting tweets from anyone INSIDE THE COURTROOM that can shed light on what we are unable to see via our monitors are fine to post here. Most all of these will be from MSM reporters - I really can't think of any exceptions off of the top of my head. If they can tell us how jurors are reacting, that is HUGE info and we need to see it here. I ask that those of you who do post tweets still include them in the Twitter thread because we have many members who log in for a quick update and depend solely on that thread


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beach
05-31-2011, 01:30 PM
ONE MORE THING!

The defense cross-exam is likely coming up soon.

Do me and yourselves a favor:

I am bending over backwards not to issue any timeouts. I want you all to be here to see this trial through. Self-edit and do not post while you are too emotional and angry. Please, please please be careful. Step away from the keyboard for a few seconds if you must. We'll still be here when you calm down. :)

Shyla
05-31-2011, 01:31 PM
we're back!

okiedokietoo
05-31-2011, 01:32 PM
in session
CA back tot he stand

2goldfish
05-31-2011, 01:32 PM
chat


http://www.serenity-irc.net/java/index.php

Mamabear1963
05-31-2011, 01:32 PM
Thanks Beach!!! you guys are working hard to make this workable.

JB up next with the cross...are we ready?

Chiquita71
05-31-2011, 01:32 PM
HHJP: both sides ready to preceed? Mrs. Anthony is up for cross examination. Let's have Mrs. Anthony return to the stand.

MD MOMMY
05-31-2011, 01:33 PM
I really hope someone slipped her a stiff drink for this.

Linda7NJ
05-31-2011, 01:33 PM
Here we go.

Jose gonna cross examine. He better do so with kid gloves

ljs713
05-31-2011, 01:33 PM
Poor CA this cross is going to be he.. for her. My prayers are with her.

SkyBlueWaters
05-31-2011, 01:33 PM
I hope JB does not tear into CA or make her get off the stand to use that dang calendar... that is just degrading... JB make your own dang notes on your calendar

DairyGirl
05-31-2011, 01:34 PM
CA Looks like she has been crying her eyes out. My heart goes out to her.

bobloblaw
05-31-2011, 01:34 PM
Whats the link to the split screen view? Thank you.

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:34 PM
Here we go.....JB is on now

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:34 PM
Here we go.

You and Casey are very much alike

GreenTeam
05-31-2011, 01:34 PM
JB says CA and ICA are exactly alike???

okiedokietoo
05-31-2011, 01:34 PM
JB: you raised ICA to always tell the truth
CA: yes, I thought I did

i.b.nora
05-31-2011, 01:35 PM
Oh wow, Baez suggesting that Casey and Cindy are exactly alike.

SailorMoon
05-31-2011, 01:35 PM
Lord please bless cindy.

butwhatif?
05-31-2011, 01:35 PM
Whats the link to the split screen view? Thank you.

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:35 PM
ICA screwing up tears - FOR HERSELF

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:35 PM
CA speaks of ICA maternal instinct.. how natural it was...

DairyGirl
05-31-2011, 01:35 PM
KC looks pleased that her mother is saying what a good mother she was.

eaglemom
05-31-2011, 01:35 PM
CA: ICA very loving caring mother - she reminded me of myself when kids were born

MD MOMMY
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
ICA had a quick maternal instinct. Reminded CA of herself. ICA was natural and they were great together. Caylee adored her mom. Her eyes would light up, she would run to her and love on her. Caylee didn't want to sleep without her mom.

carole
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
I am praying for you, Cindy. And will continue to pray for you.

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
Caylee didn't want to sleep without her mom

mydailyopinions
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
Wow look at her! Cindy's talking about Casey in a good way, so now she shows emotion?

Evil I tell you, she's EVIL!

eaglemom
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
CA: Caylee adored her mother - didn't want to sleep without her

okiedokietoo
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
JB: you never witnessed Caylee abused or tortured in any way

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
abuse or torture? never went without food or shelter (geez)

guitasjm
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
he..JB is .....

trigger
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
LOL OK JB we predicted this.

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
ICA finally crying a bit...

Eye Wonder
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
Poor Cindy looks like she has aged since this morning...I feel for them.

Sleuths4Me
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
really how she "mothered" is not what she is being on trial for it is how she murdered her darling Caylee. Really getting tired of JB trying to paint ICA as a "good mother" since that really isn't the point of this whole trial

sunsetbeach
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
Caylee had everything because CA & GA provided it for her ... I wish CA would have said that.

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
Jb speaking about the wedding, pregnancy thing

ami
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
Yeah, she never went without food or shelter - UNTIL....

She never tortured Caylee - UNTIL....

Come on now.

fifteen89
05-31-2011, 01:38 PM
When JB says 'you never saw Casey abuse or torture Caylee....' - oh how I wish Cindy could say 'no, and the same goes for George and Casey.' I know she can't, but man I'd love to see it happen.

mitzi
05-31-2011, 01:38 PM
Can't wait for LDB's re-direct.

Drama Queen
05-31-2011, 01:38 PM
Caylee went without shelter starting June 16 unless you consider a trash bag for a cover and the swamp shelter.

costalpilot
05-31-2011, 01:38 PM
wow

she fed her daughter

must be innocent

plus she didnt torture her

(that CA knows)

2goldfish
05-31-2011, 01:38 PM
I think JB is making a big mistake making every witness point out how much CAYLEE loved CASEY. it's gonna get her the needle. this isnt about CAYLEE loving her mother because she did no matter what....it's about her mother not loving her.

Wagara
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
OT I know...

Caylees Page reporting someone sent LDB flowers...on my cell.

Wag

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
Very concerned that JB is trying to paint CA as the architect of ICA's pathology

krt
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
ICA finally crying a bit...

Well of course she is! They are talking about HER! Unreal.....no not really we ARE talking about a true bonified sociopath......can cry NOW but NOT when her own mother is having a complete breakdown before her eyes re Caylee

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
I think JB is making a big mistake making every witness point out how much CAYLEE loved CASEY. it's gonna get her the needle. this isnt about CAYLEE loving her mother because she did no matter what....it's about her mother not loving her.

I so agree with this...

costalpilot
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
jb walking on egg shells

well

eaglemom
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
JB bringing up a huge blow up of ICA at CA's brother's wedding on June 7th (before ICA told her parent's she was pregnant) - note other pics shown electronically and this pic has not been shown to jury as yet

ami
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
wow

she fed her daughter

must be innocent

plus she didnt torture her

(that CA knows)

And by "fed" she means "gave Caylee access to GA and CA's food".

nerdy
05-31-2011, 01:39 PM
JB rehashing the wedding photo again. I am so over hearing it. I don't even think I can listen to this cross, it's the same questions every time.

ynotdivein
05-31-2011, 01:40 PM
This line of questioning will backfire on the defense IMO.

Angel4u2Whisper2
05-31-2011, 01:40 PM
In a way I think this is a good thing. This shows that ICA was not "hated" by her mother Cindy therefore..she did not nor would not make up these things that incriminate her.

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:40 PM
JB being snarky..about just answer the question

Softail
05-31-2011, 01:40 PM
JB better be careful.... "Ms. Anthony just answer my question"

ynotdivein
05-31-2011, 01:40 PM
Cindy's tone very sharp with JB.

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:40 PM
where is JB going with this ?

beach
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
Cindy is thwarting Baez. Who'd have ever thought it?

the seeker
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
JB...we already know Caylee was not wanting for anything....get off it, ICA was a good liar and a great PRETENDER....she knew how to play the part. Plain and simple.

SailorMoon
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
Ooooh, please answer with a "yes" or "no" Cindy. Please. I know it's hard but please.

shellsbells
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
JB is asking if ICA could have gotten a belly from participating in sports? Is he trying to prove she was pregnant? I mean.. having Caylee three months later pretty much proves she was pregnant.

4realtho
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
What?

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
JB asking if ICA was invovled in sports.. was why she was bloated? what in the world?

Eileen730
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
really how she "mothered" is not what she is being on trial for it is how she murdered her darling Caylee. Really getting tired of JB trying to paint ICA as a "good mother" since that really isn't the point of this whole trial

He has nothing else to say! Same ya da, ya da, ya da, from him.

She was a good mother cause grandmom took care of the baby. she didnt have to! JMO

ami
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
This must be JB being "gentle".

Oh, here's his AHA moment in which KC is now sedentary and yet not fat.

Which proves...

GreenTeam
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
What is JB getting at? CA being in denial about pregnancy? How is this relevant?

epiphany
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
JB: And yr aware that she spends 23 hrs in a cell?

Drama Queen
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
I am sorry but these are silly questions!

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
JB - you can't do this - you can't go backwards - this is stupiid!

Pink Panther
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
I think he's going to get reprimanded.

fifteen89
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Is JB trying to suggest Casey was never pregnant???

ami
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Forcing CA to look at ICA.

wenwe4
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
JB w/CA

raised kc to be good mother, caring, kc very loving, very caring, easy quick maternal instinct as soon as Caylee was born, reminded CA of self when her kids were born, they were just great together, Caylee adored her Mom, eyes light up, run to her, love on her, didn't want to sleep without her mom, followed kc everywhere she went, cried without kc, unless GA & CA Caylee would cry a little when kc gone, never witness kc abuse/torture/without food/shelter/any needs..... No she didn't.....first time kc went to Dr. 6/30/05 first time I learned when she was pregnant....found out that she went to Dr. few days before...went to Brother's wedding on 6/7, without showing to jury photo kc and CA @ brother Rick's wedding....@ time didn't believe kc was pregnant....confronted by brother....kc flew in that day she was sick....brother asked if she might be pregnant...he brought subject up she might be pregnant @ dinner table....@ time no we didn't believe she was pregnant....GA & CA told him kc was not pregnant....kc was sedentary for her work....previously she was walking entire park @ universal...took a sedentary position @ hro @ Universal....we would walk in evening but to me that is sedentary (JB: just answer my question) not because she was overly active or participating in sports with large protruding belly. she was not participating in sports/physical activity....kc has been incarcerated last 3 years sedentary 23 hrs in a cell...no large belly today? haven't been close enough to see her....she's not eating...JB asks if kc to stand......approach!

gitana1
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
He's trying for pity.

cleo612
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
This is a ridiculous line of questioning.

mydailyopinions
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
REally? he wants her to stand and look at Casey? Really?

babycat
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Um, what does Casey Anthony not having a belly NOW have to do with back then? This can't be serious.

summerthyme
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
What is this, if the belly does not fit, you must aquit. :D

epiphany
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
OMG.

JB: Can ICA stand so Cindy A can identify her?

JSR
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
This is BRUTAL!!!!!!!!!!!! He's trying to get CA to look at ICA.

momtective
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Oh this is freakin' ridiculous!

MD MOMMY
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Really, JB is going THERE. Jury no likey this, I guarantee that.

Eye Wonder
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Baez and his questions...Good Lord!

Im sure CA didnt think ICA was out of the country on vacation for the last 3 years!!!

grammieto5
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
what does this have to do with anything

Plumeria5
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
OMG!

JB MAKING Cindy look at Casey's belly!!

DairyGirl
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
What is he doing? What does this have to do with the price of beans in china?

amayla
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Sidebar...

nursebeeme
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Jose wants Cindy to stand to say she knows Casey...

PalmettoGirl
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
OMG, how CA views ICA today has no bearing on how CA depicted her 3 years ago (re: pregnancy). She knows NOW that ICA was pregnant.

Horace Finklestein
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
Sports make people fat? Oh Baez never disappoints.

barrysgirl
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
hahaha vinny! "all they are gonna see now is her boobs sticking out". thought he was off mic, ahahahhaaa

Drama Queen
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
What is he suggesting? If the belly isn't big you must acquit!

ebedeeb
05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
oh my IS...all we are going to see is her boobs sticking out today....lmao

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
sidebar...about wanting ICA to stand...he's trying to impeach CA

Mendara
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
These questions from Jose are so mean I bet they came from KC.

Softail
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
OMG

Are you aware that Casey has been in jail for 3 years? She is in a cell for 23 hrs. per day. She is sedentary.

Does she look pregnant to you now?

OMG - ON IS when they went to sidebar someone said - "All you can see are her boobs sticking out today"

Beyond Belief
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
Baez is going to make Cindy look Casey in the face, a little trick to get her to look at Casey.

Chiquita71
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
All rise for the jury.

HHJP: Members of the jury hope you had a good lunch.

JB: Mrs. Anthony is it fair to say you and Casey are very much alike?

in many ways yes

JB: in fact is that not what you hear often?

in most ways, yes

JB: you raised Case to be a good person, caring, loving?

yes

JB: you raised Casey to always tell the truth.

yes I did

JB: you got to see what kind of mother Casey was?

yes I did, she was a caring mother, a easy quick mothering instinct that was evident as soon as Caylee was born, like me how natural she was with Caylee.

JB: how did Caylee respond to Casey?

Casey adored her mom. Her eyes would light up, she didn't want to sleep without her mom.

JB: Casey went everywhere with KC?

yes

JB: she would cry everytime?

not if I was there, I didn't know if I was gone.

JB: you never witnessed Casey torture or abuse Caylee?

no

JB: she never went without food or shelter?

no she had everything.

JB: you testified the first time kc went to doc was june.. 30th 2005

no june 30th was when I found out she was pg. I thought she went to the drs the day before.

JB: you went to bros wedding?

yes

JB: defense exihbit "a" do you recognize?

yes

JB: you and casey at bro ricks wedding?

yes

JB: you did not believe kc was pg?

no I did not

JB: you were confronted about kc by your bro?

casey had flown in earlier that day and was sick and wanted to lay down and my bro asked if she was pg I told him no I do not believe so. he brought the subject up that she might be pg and my parents were there and at that time I told them no I did not believe she was pg

JB: neither you or george?

no

JB: you said she was sedentary?

previously she was walking Universal Studios but she had taken a office job...we walked around...

JB: just answer my question. Lack of physical activity correct?

yes a sit down job

JB: are you certain it wasn't because she wasn't playing sports?

casey wasn't participating in sports at that time.

JB: it was the opposite it was because she was not engaging in physical activity?

yes

JB: you are aware she has been in jail for three years?

yes

JB: that would classify her as sedentary?

yes

JB: as you see her today does she have a protruding belly?

I can't see her or what activities she has participated in.

JB: Can I have miss anthony stand so that Mrs. Anthony can identify her?

Side Bar

(IMHO: this defense is a joke, I can't say that enough, what a joke) Really.

Eileen730
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
OMG where is he going with this!

Does she have a big belly!

Parents go into denial when a child gets pregnant. they dont want to think that. JMO

gitana1
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
He's hoping if CA looks at her it will bring about her old protectiveness. Base trick.

ami
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
I want redirect to ask ICA if she has her period right now and is feeling especially bloated. Just for comparison purposes.

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
What is JB getting at? CA being in denial about pregnancy? How is this relevant?

Trying to pick apart CAs credibility.

costalpilot
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
cindy rambling in answer

sedentary...large belly...what the heck

please stand

no big belly?

(free her, she doesn't have a big belly)

"approach

hhgjp gotta be saying, "JB are you nuts?"

butwhatif?
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
OMG is the DT trying to set up eye to eye contact just to break CA?

rbrnmw2
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
he didn't go there? how evil JB making her look at ICA

fifteen89
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
Did Casey realize she was pregnant at that time?

liltexans
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
Casey shook her head and mouthed "that's not true" when CA said "I know she's not eating" (in jail).

nursebeeme
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
hang in there Cindy... hang in there

Nature Girl
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
I thought I had followed this case extremely close, but I realized before lunch when they played the call from jail from Casey to home when she ask for Tony's phone #. Can anyone tell me, did she make that call to Tony and if she did, did he take the call and does anyone know what the conversation was?

strawberry
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
She did gain weight in jail! She's lost some of it (for this reason) but she ain't no 105 lbs now!!

eaglemom
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
CA; stating ICA was sedentary during that time so she thought she gained weight now KB brining up ICA has been incarcerated for 3 years and JB asks if CA can see if ICA has a large protruding belly since she has been nasically sedentary - CA says well I haven't really seen her in 3 years but I know she isn't eating and I don't know what activities she can do

HHJP asks attornies to approach bench when JB asks if ICA can stand for CA to identify ICA

mitzi
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
jb walking on egg shells

well



Don't worry...won't be long that he'll be clomping thru those eggshells, and crackin' them all up! :)

TotallyObsessed
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
I wish Cindy would say "well, she porked up that first year in jail after eating all those snacks"

But she lost it when the blogs talked about how fat she was getting. Do you all remember her first court appearance?????????????????????

miimaa
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
Oh for crying out loud! Jose - get out with this silliness! Wanting KC to stand so Cindy and LOOK at her and see she doesn't have bulging belly today - after three years of no exercise in jail. I think Jose is trying to get at Cindy being a liar and lying about not knowing KC was pregnant at that wedding.

okiedokietoo
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
JB questioning about CA and GA not knowing ICA was pregnant
Making a point about what is the difference between then when ICA wasn't exercising and her sitting in jail for three years - and wants ICA to stand up so CA can see her belly
Sidebar

Emeralgem
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
Anyone watching Tru TV? Did anyone hear what the commentor just stated?

Bobbarita
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
oh my IS...all we are going to see is her boobs sticking out today....lmao
I can't believe Vinnie said that! ( Edit--Wait a minute...This was said at sidebar, it wasn't the TV commentator?) Good Lord!

zoomom
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
omg. he just sounds mean. Like he's getting ready to set her up.

beach
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
So far JB's Cross-Exam of Cindy is about as well thought out as his Opening Statment.

Lord have mercy. I sure wish Richard Hornsby would drop in about now. :floorlaugh:

countzero
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
No CM at sidebar .... hummmm

Wise Old Owl
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
It really looked like ICA looked over at DS and said "I don't want to do this!"

Can't believe that JB is going to make ICA stand up for CA to show she doesn't have a huge belly from sitting for the last 3 years.

C'mon.............really?

babycat
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
I'm sorry, but how is he going to prove that she wasn't eating more junk food when she was sedentary then, than now? Bizarre.

Whaleshark
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Is JB trying to suggest Casey was never pregnant???

no, trying to say that cindy was in denial, covering up an obvious pregnancy....

not credible witness....yadda yadda

BlOnDe_GuRrL
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
haha did vinny just say that all he can see is boobs sticking out?
oops! mic's on!

minazoe
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Abusive!

Shelby1
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
hahaha vinny! "all they are gonna see now is her boobs sticking out". thought he was off mic, ahahahhaaa

OMG *faint* I was just coming to ask if anyone else heard that. ROFL

katydid23
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
I hate the smarmy way JB leers at he jury and says " Good Morning Ladies and gentlemen"

I hope they see thriough that phony BS

And NOW he wants Casey to stand so Cindy can Identify her? What a jerky thing to do to Cindy. what is the point of that?

Is he going to make her fill in his big KindergartenKalender as well?

Horace Finklestein
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Can someone clue me in as to what JB might be thinking?

4realtho
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
This line of questioning is strange...what's the purpose.

ami
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Sports make people fat? Oh Baez never disappoints.

It was the quintuple negative that threw us I guess!

PGWodehouse
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Wow. I'm actually embarrassed for Baez. How did he pass our Florida bar? I'm embarrassed for myself and every other Floridian that someone like this is a practicing atty.

Anais
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
abuse or torture? never went without food or shelter (geez)


IMO this was ICA's biggest problem, because Caylee was becoming much more verbal with the ability to "TELL" on her mommy to her Cee Cee & Jo Jo. I am certain that ICA played the doting mommy role in front of everyone else but was a much different animal while alone with her precious daughter! So I do not expect that Cindy will be anything different than her earlier testimony.

JMHO that jurors will certainly observe ICA's emotions when it's all about her, especially the good. Yet lack there of when not so good or anything derogatory! I am also certain that jurors will realize that Cindy and the rest of the A's are most likely just realizing & coming to terms with what a sociopath their daughter/sister is.

I see she looks a wreck, the poor woman needs a hot bubble bath, glass of wine and to snuggle up for some good rest! My thoughts and prayers go out to the A's to remain calm and courageous through this horror!

Tulessa
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Oh wow! CA DOES NOT EVEN want to look at ICA!

ExpectingUnicorns
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
oh my IS...all we are going to see is her boobs sticking out today....lmao

I thought that's what I heard, too. Couldn't believe my own ears and had to check here to make sure I wasn't going nutzo myself!

Apex-mom
05-31-2011, 01:44 PM
OMG Don't tell me Jose is actually going to do this to Cindy.... !!

strawberry
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
hahaha vinny! "all they are gonna see now is her boobs sticking out". thought he was off mic, ahahahhaaa

:great: The stinky squirrel strikes at midnight! Remain seated!

ami
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
Cindy looks down during the sidebar. Won't look at #CaseyAnthony or attorneys. Jurors are watching Cindy and attorneys. -fell

by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:44 PM
#caseyanthony One female juror just whispered something our of the side of her mouth to woman next to her.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:44 PM

ynotdivein
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
Bob Kealing: #caseyanthony One female juror just whispered something our of the side of her mouth to woman next to her.

suzihawk
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
wow

she fed her daughter

must be innocent

plus she didnt torture her

(that CA knows)

Correction - her parents provided food and shelter for both Caylee and ICA. Otherise, I completely agree with your sarcasm. :crazy:

Shin Masamura
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
hahaha vinny! "all they are gonna see now is her boobs sticking out". thought he was off mic, ahahahhaaa

Heard that too.. omg

babycat
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
What is this, if the belly does not fit, you must aquit. :D

THIS.

Post of the day :floorlaugh:

QueenD
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
What is JB getting at? CA being in denial about pregnancy? How is this relevant?

Able to cover stuff up is what I am thinking he is trying to show.

NocturnalLady
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
OMG When JB asked if ICA could stand up & HHJP said "Approach." Vinnie Politan on IS just said, "All you're going to see right now is her b***bs sticking out." Did anyone else just hear that? WTH? I'm sure he didn't know his mic was on but seriously that is so inappropriate.

Sparky
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
#CaseyAnthony Cindy glanced briefly at Casey when Jose directed Casey to stand. Cindy and Casey haven't been making eye contact.
27 seconds ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez asks if #CaseyAnthony has a big belly today. Cindy says she can't tell- she's can't get close. she can tell she isn't eating.
57 seconds ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Are you aware #CaseyAnthony is in jail and spends 23 hrs a day by herself? Cindy says she's been aware every day of her life. -fell
1 minute ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Jose asks Casey to stand so Cindy can see what her body looks like now that she's been sedentary...now in sidebar
1 minute ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony ICindy "I've been aware every day of my life for last three years that Casey is incarcerated"
2 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy isn't keeping eye contact with Baez. She looks down when he asks questions. #CaseyAnthony -fell
3 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Jose just reminded Cindy to only answer the question he asks
4 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Cindy Anthony said she and George Anthony didn't suspect #CaseyAnthony was pregnant
4 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Cindy said Casey was sedentary at that time in her life and that's why she thought Casey gained weight
4 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy hardly acknowledges Baez when he said afternoon to her. #CaseyAnthony -fell
4 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Cindy's brother, the groom, asked if Casey might be pregnant. Cindy said she didn't think so
4 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Jose hands Cindy a photo of Cindy and Casey at the wedding of Cindy's brother. Cindy didn't know yet Casey was preggers
5 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Cindy looks rough. Looks like all that sobbing in the morning wiped her out
7 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy never saw #CaseyAnthony torture or mistreat Caylee. -fell
7 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Cindy Anthony looks like today's testimony has been an emotional rollercoaster for her #CaseyAnthony
7 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Says Caylee loved and adored Casey and followed her everywhere she went. Didn't want to sleep without her
8 minutes ago
Jim Lichtenstein
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Cindy is looking directly at jurors during much of this. #caseyanthony #caseyanthonytrial
8 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Cindy Anthony tells #JoseBaez that #CaseyAnthony "was a very loving, very caring mother. she has a very easy quick maternal instinct."
8 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Cindy says Casey had natural maternal instinct as soon as Caylee was born and was a natural.
8 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Defense asks what kind of mother #CaseyAnthony was? "very loving, very caring mother." -Cindy. -fell
9 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
Cindy back on stand. Defense begins cross exam by asking Cindy if she and Casey are a lot alike. Cindy says yes.
9 minutes ago
Amanda Ober
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
I know! That was too funny! RT @pattygable: @AmandaOberWESH .. somebody quick .. give the judge a toothpick .. :O
10 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Court back in session. Defense will cross examine Cindy Anthony #CaseyAnthony
11 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy Anthony will now be crossed examined by the defense. #CaseyAnthony -fell

the seeker
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
This is completely ridiculous....

momtective
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
So CA didn't think ICA was pregnant, what does that prove? She didn't think she was a murderer either!

costalpilot
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
And by "fed" she means "gave Caylee access to GA and CA's food".

i think JB must mean, ICA sometimes used a spoon to feed her daughter the food that G n C put on the table.

AliGirl
05-31-2011, 01:45 PM
Anyone watching Tru TV? Did anyone hear what the commentor just stated?

YES!!!!!!!! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:I really don't think he knew his mic. was on!

Linda7NJ
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
Bet Casey said, "Make her look at MEEEEEEE"

grandmaj
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
He wants Cindy to have to look at Casey

Eidetic
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
I can't believe Vinnie said that!

:loser: How professional. Such a gentleman. Even my husband couldn't believe what we heard him say.

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
I would like to point out again that CA said Caylee didn't want to sleep without ICA (and so did Ricardo,and Amy in her statement to an extent) - well, golly, now we know why ICA did what she did

DairyGirl
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
REally? he wants her to stand and look at Casey? Really?

Maybe KC wanted her mother to be forced to look at her so she could try to put her under her spell again.

Pink Panther
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
This is without question KC's idea to force her mother to look at her.

moo

Sweetyhide
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
I just heard what the commentator on Tru TV just said when they went to side bar. Was not good. Not good at all! He better pretend like that wasnt said and watch his comments.

Insomnia Momma
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
Can someone please post the link for all of the twitter comments? I think it was case file or something, I forgot to bookmark it.

Thanks!

grammieto5
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
ah cindy cindy don't let him break you! stay strong, just tell the truth.

The Eunice Burns
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
I wish Cindy would say "well, she porked up that first year in jail after eating all those snacks"

But she lost it when the blogs talked about how fat she was getting. Do you all remember her first court appearance?????????????????????

Yes, I do. I remember her looking a bit fuller, especially in the chest. Her blouse was pulling.

nursebeeme
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
So far JB's Cross-Exam of Cindy is about as well thought out as his Opening Statment.

Lord have mercy. I sure wish Richard Hornsby would drop in about now. :floorlaugh:

memba that part in his opening statement... that the family was ashamed of the pregnancy.. hid it, etc... that is what he is fishing for..

he will never get there imhoo

nachomama
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
Jeez.. I just stood up and realized that I HAVE A BELLY.... Oh no ......

Chiquita71
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
Hey, I believe Casey could have hidden her pregnancy for those seven months wearing big clothes and all...then revealing it at the wedding. They said Rick's step son asked "whos the daddy?" And that Casey smiled...

This is all Casey about the pregnancy and Jose is trying for the Flowers in the Attic stuff still with this family hidden secret shame...

except they never hid Caylee once she was born.

beach
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
I'm sorry, but how is he going to prove that she wasn't eating more junk food when she was sedentary then, than now? Bizarre.

I say let's break out the commissary purchases for the past 3 years! :cheer:

Mendara
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
who cares about this? Again mothers and fathers do not wantt o believe their innocent daughters are running around getting pregnant by guys they don't know - this is an easy explanation that her parents did not think it was a pregnancy and thought something else.

My parents saw me everyday while I was 8 months pregnant didn't know a thing.

A_News_Junkie
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
OMG *faint* I was just coming to ask if anyone else heard that. ROFL


:great::floorlaugh::great: Poor Vinnie -- and I have it on dvr!!!!!!!!!! But, no worries Vinnie -- if you stay on the side of Caylee, I won't upload it! LOL

wenwe4
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
IMO JB is attempting to force CA to look @ KC.....KC's wish the entire time her Mom has been on the stand.....all KC's anger toward her Mom not looking @ her and getting hugs from GA . . . kc's alleged perpetrator.

nssherlock
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
It seems JB is just trying to prove that even a "casual observer" would know that KC was pregnant.............but so what?????

dog.gone.cute
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
:waitasec:

JB is really looking like a "fool" ...

Cindy was on the stand all morning, crying her eyes out, and he is going to start with his "foolish" line of questioning again ... sidebars ...

ConstableCruller
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
Implication: Cindy and Casey are just alike--masters of denying the obvious, even to themselves. But oh, so clumsily done.

Zoe Bogart
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
I'm thinking the law school where JB attended (not studied) should be investigated. :shakehead: What a guy.

MD MOMMY
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
If he asks ICA to lift her shirt, I am SO OUTTA HERE!

Softail
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
Can someone clue me in as to what JB might be thinking?

It's hard to say, he is in Casey's World now. Anyone's guess!

cityslick
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
The commentary is actually very good during these sidebars, makes them go quicker.

Anais
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
What is this, if the belly does not fit, you must aquit. :D


:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

guitasjm
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
destroy the grandmother.... this is disgusting!!
what does it matter abut the pregnancy

Curious Me
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
HLN saying JB is trying to go down liar's lane, saying Casey is so much like Cindy, and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Soulmagent
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
OMG When JB asked if ICA could stand up & HHJP said "Approach." Vinnie Politan on IS just said, "All you're going to see right now is her b***bs sticking out." Did anyone else just hear that? WTH? I'm sure he didn't know his mic was on but seriously that is so inappropriate.

I dd hear it , and it was.

JB

sunsetbeach
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
Casey shook her head and mouthed "that's not true" when CA said "I know she's not eating" (in jail).

This is what gets me. I want the state to do something about all this head shakin and comments from ICA. :thud:

Shyla
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
unreal, just unreal!

grammieto5
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
ooohhhh kc is lovin this

JSR
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
This is a swarmy trick by JB. He's trying to get CA to look at ICA to get her back to ICA's side. JB knows the manipulations her daughter has on her. I hope it doesn't work.

guitasjm
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
i'm getting sick

nursebeeme
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
good job cindy...

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
Oh this is just dumb - but now we know why she wore what she wore today?

ami
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
Drawing it out is making even more embarrassingly painful for the defense.

strach304
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
This is stupid. She knows that now.

Pink Panther
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
That was ridiculous.

Chiquita71
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
Casey wanted to have the SMALLEST belly she could for today. This was her idea, alright. Make her look at me. :yes:

JB: Can you please look at your daughter and then go back to the witness stand?

fifteen89
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
EXCELLENT answer, Cindy!

Soulmagent
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
Crazy . WTH Casey seems to be trying to prove she isnt pregnant all over again.

Leila
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
This is cruel!

A_News_Junkie
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
I say let's break out the commissary purchases for the past 3 years! :cheer:

Hurry - someone email Linda GA letter talking about her gaining weight! Oh and I have past screen caps too!

JB ---------------> YA GOT NOTHING. SHE COULD BE more active in jail doing jumping jacks than she was then.

Softail
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
:lol: "She's not AS BIG as she was then, no"

mydailyopinions
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
Not as big!:floorlaugh: How do you like those apples Casey?

GreenTeam
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
Is JB trying to ''break" CA?

reeseeva
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
KC holding her stomach in.......the answer to why she is wearing that awful tight top...

imawitch
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
jmho, but now we know why the defense has casey a wearing that tight shirt..they wanted to show her flat belly..

they want to make cindy a look like a liar, jmo

Snaz
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
OMG, did you see ICA turn to the side to model her body for her mother??? Un-freaking-believable!!

trigger
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
hahaha vinny! "all they are gonna see now is her boobs sticking out". thought he was off mic, ahahahhaaa

LOLOLOL I heard that to..OMG

ziggy
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
WTF? Weird. Cindy motioning for Casey to stand sideways so she can see her stomach area.

OK, she doesn't look pregnant. Jury scratching heads???

ExpectingUnicorns
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
Too, too much!! This is literally a "face off" between Casey and Cindy. A real Baez production. Yuck!

costalpilot
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
hes torturing C, imo.

making her look at ica

HRCODEPINK
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
I don't understand why we are even going through this. Ugh! And even if this was something that would impeach her testimony, it still doesn't change what was on those tapes and those tapes are the most damaging. She really needed a better defense attorney.

gitana1
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
I thought I had followed this case extremely close, but I realized before lunch when they played the call from jail from Casey to home when she ask for Tony's phone #. Can anyone tell me, did she make that call to Tony and if she did, did he take the call and does anyone know what the conversation was?

She tried but IIRC, her never picked up. They never had a convo again.


JB questioning about CA and GA not knowing ICA was pregnant
Making a point about what is the difference between then when ICA wasn't exercising and her sitting in jail for three years - and wants ICA to stand up so CA can see her belly
Sidebar

It's clear CA and GA were in incredible denial about anything negative to do with casey. Jb will not score with this.

watergirl
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
CA: i can only see her from the chest up :giggle:

Plumeria5
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Bet Casey said, "Make her look at MEEEEEEE"

Exactly. Casey was irate Cindy wouldn't look at her on Saturday. I bet JB said that he would make sure Cindy HAD TO look at her. Just more torment for Cindy.
:maddening: Evil!

sarag
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
WOW!
I know that I can look at pictures of myself from three years ago and I look bigger, but I can't notice at the time! Pregnancy doesn't just HAPPEN. You slowly get a belly. Obviously you'll notice her belly after her pregnancy but if it was just in the middle of her growing you might not notice as much.

ami
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Man ICA HATES when CA talks about her period.

She can listen to sex testimony, murder testimony, decomposition testimony, theft testimony - but draws the line at talking about her period!

Intermezzo
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
19..Casey was an adult..Cindy could not make her go to see an MD..

Mendara
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Okay so ICA lied to her mother about maybe having an ovarian cyst. terrible.

trigger
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
jmho, but now we know why the defense has casey a wearing that tight shirt..they wanted to show her flat belly..

they want to make cindy a look like a liar, jmo

Impeach her???

realcurious
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
The judge should not have allowed that.

epiphany
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
JB: Can u please look at yr daughter and then go back to t witness stand?

Casey thinks she "wins" again. She needed Mommy to LOOK at her.

fifteen89
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
no, trying to say that cindy was in denial, covering up an obvious pregnancy....

not credible witness....yadda yadda

I know. It just sounds that silly.

Softail
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Nice, JB talking about Casey's periods in open court. :rolleyes:

GreenTeam
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Isn't this beyond the scope of the direct questioning?

TonyGatto
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
:loser: How professional. Such a gentleman. Even my husband couldn't believe what we heard him say.

I believe that comment belongs in the SIDEBAR forum.

miimaa
05-31-2011, 01:51 PM
WTH??? "When did KC first get her period?" OMG.... how does this have anything to do with anything?

grandmaj
05-31-2011, 01:51 PM
Casey scorns at her mother. The jury won't miss that.

dog.gone.cute
05-31-2011, 01:51 PM
WTH ??? :waitasec:

WTH does THIS have to do with Caylee's murder JB ? ? ?

BigFatMommyDog
05-31-2011, 01:51 PM
is he trying to build some kind of basis for her psychology out of her periods?

Softail
05-31-2011, 01:51 PM
JB - When did she have her first sexual partner?

LDB - Objection

CJBP - Sustained!

ziggy
05-31-2011, 01:51 PM
Oh dear discussing Casey's periods??? And Jose is trying to imply Cindy was a bad mother for not taking Casey to a gynecologist? PULEEZ.

OK now he's asking who is Caylee's father???

ami
05-31-2011, 01:51 PM
Imaginary friends!

alwaysonmymind
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Unreal.....

And this is important because..... ???


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Lookylou
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
hes torturing C, imo.

making her look at ica

I thought the same thing.

realcurious
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
imaginary friends. lol

nursebeeme
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Isn't this beyond the scope of the direct questioning?

no.. prosecution opened the "period" door

((moo: it's all good.... ))

babycat
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
"I'd like to talk to you about some of Casey's imaginary friends"

There are no words...

ArtichokeHeart
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Baez is being unfair here trying to make an idiot out of Cindy.

NocturnalLady
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Casey got her period at age ten? Isn't that really early? If true - poor Casey!

JSR
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Is JB trying to ''break" CA?

Yes, he is. He's trying to allow his client to influence CA. Hopefully it won't work.

epiphany
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
JB: I want to talk to u about some of Casey's imaginary friends...

miimaa
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Every time Jose says the word "period" the hair on my neck stands up. So very very creepy. I guess he is trying to prove Cindy in denial. Now he just says something about "imaginary friends"

Horace Finklestein
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Did he really mention "imaginary friends"

passionflower
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
huge waste

Softail
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
JB- Who is Caylee's father?

LDB - Objects

Overruled.

rosepetal1065
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
What in the world? 1st sexual partner..and imaginary friends

gitana1
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
So he made her do it. What was CA's reaction to looking at her daughter? My computer froze.

SleuthyMama
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
I think JB is trying to lead her to admit they "denied" the pregnancy so that then he can try and say they did that because they were afraid that George was the father.

Patience
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Whos is the father of Caylee, omg.

Poodleluver
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Normal answers from Cindy, esp. about first going to a gyno. It is traumatic. I hate how Baez is acting like this is all Cindy's fault. "Imaginary friends". Where is he going? And no one knows who the dad is! Even KC!

Eidetic
05-31-2011, 01:52 PM
JB: "Now I'd like to talk to you about some of Casey's imaginary friends..."

epiphany
05-31-2011, 01:53 PM
Cindy: She first told me it was Jesse G.

GreenTeam
05-31-2011, 01:53 PM
Casey got her period at age ten? Isn't that really early? If true - poor Casey!

I think 9 to 13 is average.

ZsaZsa
05-31-2011, 01:53 PM
So CA didn't think ICA was pregnant, what does that prove? She didn't think she was a murderer either!

I think his point is that CA must have seen she was pregnant....but didn't want to admit it ( keeping secrets regarding any sexual activity). Ray Charles could have seen that pregnancy!

Intermezzo
05-31-2011, 01:53 PM
Baez asked Who's Caylee's father?
Does anyone get the feeling he knows and he knows they know

Who enjoys watching Baez thinking and thinking and thinking of a new question

Poodleluver
05-31-2011, 01:53 PM
I think JB is trying to lead her to admit they "denied" the pregnancy so that then he can try and say they did that because they were afraid that George was the father.

Ahh....didn't think of that! Duh!

Whome?
05-31-2011, 01:53 PM
Cindy should say "ask your client" I don't know :maddening: