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beach
05-30-2011, 10:50 PM
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beach
06-02-2011, 03:21 AM
:bump:

Tricia
06-02-2011, 03:35 AM
If I click my ruby red slippers at the heels three times and say, "There's no place like being able to fit into a size 2" three times will it happen? I'll settle for a size 8. How about if my feet just go back to the size they were before I got pregnant.

It's time for beddy bye.

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 07:40 AM
bump bump... but locked until trial resumes

Harmony2
06-02-2011, 07:58 AM
reposting links:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-tivid-casey-anthony-jury-livestream,0,999563.htmlstory

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

http://live.cnn.com/

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/

ynotdivein
06-02-2011, 08:48 AM
I can't hear... any hint on what is being argued here?

2goldfish
06-02-2011, 08:48 AM
link to chat WS Has a 24 Hour Chat Room! - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Bon
06-02-2011, 08:49 AM
Morning all! :)

darnudes
06-02-2011, 08:49 AM
Up and running here waiting for ICA

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

strawberry
06-02-2011, 08:49 AM
The WESH cam was showing Universal! :lol:

Tulessa
06-02-2011, 08:50 AM
Links in my siggy. :)

strawberry
06-02-2011, 08:50 AM
I can't hear... any hint on what is being argued here?

Are they arguing? WESH is showing the door. If they are it would prob be portions of the jail videos the DT wants out.

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 08:50 AM
I see nothing but the door.

momtective
06-02-2011, 08:50 AM
Must be a replay...I see nothing but a brown door on WESH.

strawberry
06-02-2011, 08:51 AM
Links in my siggy. :)

I clicked on the Casey Cam just as she was coming in the door!! Love it!:floorlaugh:

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 08:52 AM
I'm here - and we have another day - another new blouse....

Tulessa
06-02-2011, 08:52 AM
The DT looks rattled this morning.

Bon
06-02-2011, 08:53 AM
Miss ICA is wearing a lt blue short sleeve blouse and talking with DS

ami
06-02-2011, 08:53 AM
...and more bright smiles and chit chat from ICA.

21merc7
06-02-2011, 08:53 AM
I see KC and DS at table talking, DS flipping through papers, diff top than yesterday

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 08:54 AM
morning all

momshrink
06-02-2011, 08:54 AM
I'm here - and we have another day - another new blouse....

LG, I love your posts - they really help me catch up when RL intrudes!

Softail
06-02-2011, 08:55 AM
The DT looks rattled this morning.

This morning? :waitasec:

ohiogirl
06-02-2011, 08:55 AM
GMA! (Good morning all)

Kentjbkent
06-02-2011, 08:55 AM
Casey talking to both Jose and Sims but neither is even acknowledging her...at one point, she even reaches out to grab Baez, but again....no acknowledgment

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 08:55 AM
16039

16040

16041

momshrink
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
I see nothing but the door.

Really, really appreciate your posts and the pictures when I am reading about the day's proceedings! Thanks! :great:

Bittiness39
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
The DT looks rattled this morning.

Yes they do. :rocker:
Anytime jail house visits are mentioned, JB, looks like he is physically freaked out/ill. I guess he has no idea when the SAO's office might whip out the ICA reaction video...
Also, the visits with her brother and parents are pretty darning for the Defense as well. Maybe there are redacted portions that we have not seen? Even more awful footage of ICA? :woohoo:

Sun
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
I see that once again, Simms brought a sweater for Casey. It is laying wadded up in Simms chair.

essies
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
I don't see CM yet-wonder if he's running late?:waitasec:

mitzi
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
Good Morning!

JA and Mr. George there. Also HHJP. No LDB yet!

strawberry
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
Just an observation...is that an old blouse and she just rolled, once over, the cap sleeves? Does a defendant during a trial ever "change" or try to modify their appearance usually?

She has grooming habits. She adjusts her hair and clothes seemingly compulsively, and it seems worse when things are tense.

zoey
06-02-2011, 08:56 AM
16039

16040

16041

I always wonder what the heck he is looking at....

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 08:57 AM
get to see jailhouse vids hopefully today... don tink the DT will be able to divert the impact these will surely have.....

suzihawk
06-02-2011, 08:57 AM
Some spectators traveled from Pinellas County to be here in court. One woman says she's nervous she may know on the jurors. #CaseyAnthony
by cfnews13casey via twitter (http://twitter.com/CFNews13Casey/status/76269807808430080) at 8:51 AM

strawberry
06-02-2011, 08:57 AM
She must have bobby pinned her bangs back.

ynotdivein
06-02-2011, 08:57 AM
OFGS. This is Acevedo, and someone just said "Good afternoon," so apparently WESH tricked us with a replay. Many apologies to anyone I have unnecessarily confoosed (myself included)!

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 08:58 AM
WFTV all cams workn just fine n dandy

mombomb
06-02-2011, 08:58 AM
ICA wearing a collared light blue short sleeve blouse with her hair up in a bun. Looks like DS brought lots of files so as not to pizz off the judge. JB trying to plug something in - now staring at the roof while ICA talking to him.

Kentjbkent
06-02-2011, 08:58 AM
Baez looking "technically challenged" with all his cords....

Linda7NJ
06-02-2011, 08:58 AM
Can't wait until they play the audio of Yuri's interview with Casey at Universal. Blatantly obvious it's not a fantasy world she lives in. She knows the truth, choses to lie:)

dunlurken
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
Am I here? Still trying to work my way through this format.

ami
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
Does anyone else get skeeved when JB looks directly into the camera? It's like I'm making eye contact with him and he's about to attack my character.

Harmony2
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
I was not here yesterday in the morning... Is it a replay??

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

I think it is a replay because the akaimai link is showing something different...

my2sense
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
Some spectators traveled from Pinellas County to be here in court. One woman says she's nervous she may know on the jurors. #CaseyAnthony
by cfnews13casey via twitter (http://twitter.com/CFNews13Casey/status/76269807808430080) at 8:51 AM

If she does, I hope she keeps her identity to herself :twocents:

essies
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
Crikey!! Is DS is making a mountain of paperwork for ICA to play with!!:floorlaugh:

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
I'm thinking that's a new one - those gathered little puff sleeves - not sure we've seen this style ( :innocent: ) before. The colour is a repeater...

4realtho
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
Look at all those files and folders on the DT table. So much clutter, they are so NOT organized and it makes them look very unprofessional.

strawberry
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
SOTS, the pocket square is in place! Any lip readers? ICA lookslike she is b****ing to Baez.

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
Baez extra smirky this morning like he thinks he's got something up his sleeve.

Cabin girl
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
Sorry but I really wish they would not have FG do the questioning... I'm sure he's a lovely man, but LDB is just so awesome!

Wise Old Owl
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
All rise!

Mountain_Kat
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
Good morning. I'm here with coffee in hand. :)

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
Crikey!! Is DS is making a mountain of paperwork for ICA to play with!!:floorlaugh:

LOL - the Defense Table looks like their case in chief! What a mess...

Wise Old Owl
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
rut ro - Jeffrey Hopkins

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
Jeffrey Hopkins! Curve ball!

SleuthyMama
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
Good morning, everyone. Thanks to all of you who describe the action in such detail, for those of us who are at work and can only follow along via WS.

Linda7NJ
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
Am I here? Still trying to work my way through this format.


Yep. You're here.

ami
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
OOoh, Jeff Hopkins.

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
(((((thud)))))))

jeffry hopkins!!!!!!

FaerieB
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
Good morning all. :)

Jeffrey Hopkins up first.

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
Jeffrey Hopkins!!! Grief, I have to leave for work in 10 minutes. This will be good.

Mountain_Kat
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
LOL...Jeff Hopkins. ;)

Tulessa
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
First witness: Jeffery Hopkins.

Softail
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
IS is saying Jeffrey Hopkins is the 1st witness

Kenziema
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
LOLOLOLOL, this should be good.

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
16042

16043

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
Jury coming in.

ablins
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
Wowza JB is giving ICA the cold shoulder....his body language screams that he is fed up and over the ICA drama. Their chemistry in the last couple of days has been very volitile if you ask me.

snowshuze
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
IS this the imaginary Jeff Hopkins? :)

Shear22
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
Oooooh! Jeff Hopkins. This should be short and sweet.

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
Wonder if they have his file?

ami
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
#
#caseyanthony Cindy Anthony here by herself in audience.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:01 AM

distracted 1976
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
Couldn't post much with all our visitors yesterday! Morning all!
Having my first Oh Crap moment of the day!
Sure there is many more to come!

Hi Jeff Hopkins!

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
poor guy - looks a little dazed

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
Looking sharp! I wonder if CM will ask why he's wearing a tie.

dunlurken
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
reposting links:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-tivid-casey-anthony-jury-livestream,0,999563.htmlstory

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

http://live.cnn.com/

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/


thank you for this. I'm good to go.

ahi
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
:Banane01:Present!:Banane01:

Day 8...only 52 days left...give or take :)

I know it's been 3 years...but ICA's hair grows faster than anyone I know. What is in jailhouse food?

Kentjbkent
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
Poor Jeffrey Hopkins....he is about to find out he has a son AND an imaginanny!!

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
hopkins!!!! OMG...doomsday is upon DT....imo

~Lisa~
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
Good morning.... Jeff H. is up!

ami
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
JH has GOT to be like...how the eff did I ever end up with a starring role in this fantasy life?

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:02 AM
Acquaintences!!

Liz
06-02-2011, 09:03 AM
Mr. Baezzzzz, Is this first witness, Jeffrey Hopkins, just a figment of my imagination, or what?

luckyme
06-02-2011, 09:03 AM
hopkins!!!! OMG...doomsday is upon DT....imo

Wesh said caseys imaginary friend. :floorlaugh:

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:03 AM
Mr. Hopkins. Met ICA in middle school. Stayed in touch thru passing. They were acquaintances. He worked at Universal in 2002 for 1 year. Never worked there when ICA worked there. Didn't see her there. He did not introduce ICA to ZG. Never used her as a nanny. He has no children. Has lived in orlando consist since 2002. Never lived in Jax or NC. Did not see ICA in June 2008. Saw her in July 2008 at Ale House the first Tues. 7/2.

Wise Old Owl
06-02-2011, 09:04 AM
Never use Zeniada Gonzelez as a nanny.

Does NOT have any children.

Never lived in North Carolina.

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:04 AM
Jeffry (of course) denying he every lived in Jacksonville, or North Carolina or worked with her (list keeps going).........

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:04 AM
Every lie torn down brick by brick - I can't imagine how the jury is going to take this?

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:04 AM
Tweet says CA is alone in the seats. Wonder if that means LA and GA will be up again today.

Mountain_Kat
06-02-2011, 09:04 AM
Good witness. Very direct. This testominy is going to fly by. :)

amayla
06-02-2011, 09:04 AM
Hopkins is 26, met Casey in middle school. They were acquaintances, not very good friends. He did work at universal studios in 2002. He worked there one year. He doesn't think Casey worked there with him. He has no children and does not know Zenida. He has never lived in Jacksonville or North Carolina. He saw her in July at the waterford ale?out? house, in July 2008. He didn't go with her there, he just saw here there, and they exchanged numbers. She texted him mass messages about going to a fusion.

mysticrose
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
anyone else having sound issues

SuziQ
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Poor guy, this must be like being in the Twilight Zone for him.

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
He spoke to her at Ale House. Hi and exchanged #s and that was it. They texted after that. Seemed to be mass texts about going to Fusion. She did not tell him that ZG had taken Caylee. He knew she had a daughter but hadn't met her.

FG done with questions.

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
how can they cross!! this should be just sick

ami
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Wha? DId I miss him asking about Zachary and his mother with cancer?

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Jeff presenting as an excellent witness.

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Cross - on what I don't know.

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
JB says, "is your name Jeffry michael hopkins" than asks if he had a crush on her

momtective
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Jeffrey Hopkins
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/111-8.jpg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1112.jpg

fifteen89
06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
she "was" an attractive young lady.

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
now gonna try and say it was a DIFFERENT hopkins!!!! JB!!!!! PLEEEZZZZZEEEE!! another waste of a cross

Softail
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
Oh brother - JB - Did you have a crush on her?

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
Did ICA have a crush on you? Puppy love eyes in middle school, what does this have to do with anything?

Bittiness39
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
Jeff Hopkins: not a fan of ICA...lol.
JB: Did you have a crush on ICA in middle school or vice versus? Maybe. She was attractive. Where is JB going with the grilling of JH?

ami
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
Trying to paint them as childhood sweethearts.

Hopkins not agreeing with that so much.

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
And were off to a smarmy start - Jose is at least consistent.

Oh and this is not Jeffrey MICHAEL Hopkins, who is imaginary, and therefore not contactable...

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
Tell me JB did not say puppy love eyes.


WS posters have totally been saying that exact thing about KC and JB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
they cant possibly think or insinuate any other hopkins!!! o come on!!!!

SleuthyMama
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
I'm sure because they were only acquaintances it was quite easy for Casey to use him as an excuse for where she'd disappear to at times.

No real chance he would call or run into family members and reveal her lie.

Wise Old Owl
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
puppy love eyes?? Really?

here we go - just another day in "Casey's World"

fifteen89
06-02-2011, 09:06 AM
How does the jury respond to JB's all smiles/'good mornings'?

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
no worries JB is bringing up all the rest (son, zanny, etc etc etc)

ami
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
Sadly, no trustfund for Jeff.

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
JB is just repeating everything FG just asked. How is that a quote cross unquote examination.

Tipstaff
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
JB is your middle name Michael....witness no.................then JB tries to imply witness and ICA had puppy love crush....witness say not really. Weird Weird cross.

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
JG - is your name Jeffrey Michael Hopkins? No. Knew ICA in middle school. Didn't know if ICA had a crush on him in middle school. He thought she was attractive. He didn't have "puppy love eyes" for her. Just a mutual attraction. He was contacted by LE immediately. Told them he didn't have a child named Zachary and that he is not rich from a trust fund and did not have a girlfriend named ZG, didn't introduce ICA to ZG. Denied plans to move in with ICA. Told them this was all fiction.

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
JB is wasting so much....it proves nothing..imo

Chiquita71
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
Jeffery Hopkins

HHJP: Let's return the jury

FG: how old

26

FG: met?

middle school

FG: stay in touch through 2008

in passing

aquaintenses, not very good friends

FG: work at universal?

yes

FG: ?

never worked there when Casey did, does not know zanny, does not have a child, never lived in Jacksonville

(skip)

FG: while there you saw casey?

yes

FG: go with her

no

FG: speak with her?

yes, I haven't seen you in a while and that's it.

FG: hear from her after that?

mass text messages about going to fusian

FG: did she ever tell you that ZFG had taken her daughter?

no

FG: were you aware?

no

JB: is your name Jeffery Micheal Hopkins?

no

JB: middle school?

yes

JB: have a crush on you?

no

JB: did you have a crush on kc?

she was a attractive girl

JB: mutual attraction of some sort?

yes

JB: contacted by LE immediately?

yes

JB: you let them know you did not have a child named zack?

yes

JB: not rich from trust fund, and do not have a girlfriend named ZFG?

no

Insomnia Momma
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
Why is JB even crossing JH? It doesn't even make sense :waitasec:

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Why is JB trying to say there was a real JH? Isn't that against his case? He's ridiculous.

jmfstl
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Baez is going to point out this is not the Jeffrey Hopkins.

Liz
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Baez was trying to guilt JH and bring back some imaginary feelings JH (allegedly) had for ICA in elementary school. Didn't work, JB! lol

ami
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Defense brought out the imaginary family of Hopkins and got him to agree that they did not exist.

He doesn't know how Caylee died.

RammerJammer
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Baez cannot even phrase a question properly. I am already "frushtrated!"

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Jose has dropped his "knowledge of 6/16 when Caylee drowned in the pool"

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Doesn't have any info what happened to Caylee. JB done.

FG questioning. He believes he was contacted by LE on the night in July 2008. Also talked to them once at his house and once at the Sheriff's office - weeks later.

Doesn't know anyone named ZG.

Witness is excused.

Mountain_Kat
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Bye, Jeff. :)

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Geez missed the first part switching over from wftv (no sound) to wesh. Has LDB or any of the SA questioned this rich boyfriend of ICA's with the son and the trust fund who lived in Jacksonville?
Oh sorry - here's Mr. George back again - my world has rebalanced.

ami
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
and that's it for JMH.

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
this DT cant do a darn thing with anyone of the PT witnesses...IMO... all DT is doing is burying their client even further...

wenwe4
06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Jeff Hopkins w/FG on Stand, age 26, met kc in middle school, stayed in touch thru passing til mid 2008...acquaintances not very good friends.....worked @ Universal 1yr in 2002, doesn't recall seeing kc @ Universal....never introduce kc to ZTN, doesn't have kids, always lived in Orlando, never NC or Jax,.....saw kc @ Waterford Lakes Ale House on 7/2/08 with 2 friends....didn't plan to see her...hi how ya doing haven't seen you in awhile, exchanged #'s, he received mass text messages to go to fusion, never told JH that ZTN took her daughter, he knew she had a daughter - she mentioned it....

Cross-
JB w/JH.....name Jeffrey Michael Hopkins? no.....did kc have a crush on you? did you have crush on kc in mid school.....she was a pretty girl ...a mutual attraction....JH doesn't have a child named Zach...not rich from trust fund.....didn't have girlfriend or introduce ZTN to kc, no knowledge of mom to Zach died......not going to move in w/kc and Zach.....all these stories one great fiction.....it is not this JH.....

no info on what happened to Caylee on 6/16 nor have info on her death..


FG- spoke w/LE once @ his house and once @ OSCO - weeks or months later...
Don't know anyone named ZFG.....

excuse witness

Kentjbkent
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
Jeff presenting as an excellent witness.

I would imagine it is easy to be an excellent witness when you are telling THE TRUTH!!! :rocker:

kathyn2
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
This <modsnip> Baez is trying to make fun out of all of KCs lies and act like they are just ridiculous and how could anyone believe them all so thats how weird her family, especially her mother was, to believe all her lies and how dysfunctional the family was. I can barely stand to look at him any more. I wonder how the jury feels? Re of her ridiculous lies, she is still a killer.

Wise Old Owl
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
Well that was short and sweet.

MissDiva
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
Ok, that was brief. I don't think I was expecting anything from JH, but that was over pretty quickly.

ablins
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
I do believe Baez just proved Casey a liar and I have no doubt that the jury is not impressed with a so called "trained" lawyer.....Baez is tightening the noose!

Mosby
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
JB's running theme with these witnesses:

Men -- all had the hots for her

Women -- all were jealous of her

Think the jury notices this?

Oakley
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
JB is just repeating everything FG just asked. How is that a quote cross unquote examination.

Actually, JB did bring up information Mr G left out that I was hoping he hadn't. Thank you Jose! :floorlaugh:

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:09 AM
Next witness being called. ICA looking chatty today.

kathyn2
06-02-2011, 09:10 AM
LKB says some explosive evidence is going to come from the defense side when they are up thats going to blow this trial right up. I am betting Lee is going to fall on his sword for the abuse and also speak of GAs abuse.

ami
06-02-2011, 09:10 AM
Leonard Tortora

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:10 AM
leonard tutora up

works at loss prevention at universal

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:10 AM
Leonard Tutora - Universal

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:10 AM
I totally pictured Leonard Tutora as an older gentleman for some reason.

Shannon33
06-02-2011, 09:10 AM
Please please please let them play the jail house videos today!

ami
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
This poor witness isn't really comfortable with being in court.

Softail
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
Loss Prevention Assistant Manager at Universal is up! Leonard Turtora!

:great:

Gracenote
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
Here we go again with the biggest waste of time in the world. I am going to bill JB for my time.

(I know, I know, no one is making me watch.)

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
Poor guy seems nervous.

Oakley
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
LKB says some explosive evidence is going to come from the defense side when they are up thats going to blow this trial right up. I am betting Lee is going to fall on his sword for the abuse and also speak of GAs abuse.

I wonder if she means information akin to Jose's opening statement 'Aha!' moment? Pfffft.

ami
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
#
#caseyanthony Jury watched Hopkins intently. Now Universal loss prevention guy up there.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:11 AM

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
OOOOOO - Loss Prevention guy from Universal Orlando - we're kicking off this morning with a big bang!!! Here come da tapes! Or just the hallway.....and Yuri!

sunsetbeach
06-02-2011, 09:11 AM
I LOVE how JB always points out ICA's lies in cross and acts as though since she admitted she lied the SA's shouldn't even be asking these questions of the witnesses. That's my take on it anyway

If he get's another client after this I will be shocked because his ability (or lack there of) is being shown to the world.

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 09:12 AM
Great....he's a talker.

Insomnia Momma
06-02-2011, 09:12 AM
An "alleged employee" :floorlaugh:

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:12 AM
Ahem, let's join hands as we all walk down that hallway together peeps!

momtective
06-02-2011, 09:12 AM
Leonard Toutora
Universal Orlando
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1112-1.jpg

Amity
06-02-2011, 09:12 AM
Geez missed the first part switching over from wftv (no sound) to wesh. Has LDB or any of the SA questioned this rich boyfriend of ICA's with the son and the trust fund who lived in Jacksonville?
Oh sorry - here's Mr. George back again - my world has rebalanced.

Hi LogicalGirl,

I thought WFTV didn't have sound until I started playing with buttons.
Try the bottom/Casey view Sound button.
That's what finally worked for me,....before today I always had the bottom view Muted.

mitzi
06-02-2011, 09:12 AM
anyone else having sound issues

I have three different stations open, and none of them are good...all are extremely choppy! I guess I'll just read here. CNN, clickorlando, and wftv are all carpy for me.

BetteDavisEyes
06-02-2011, 09:13 AM
Universal interview on the way to Casey's "office" must be coming up shortly!

Moe
06-02-2011, 09:13 AM
Ahem, let's join hands as we all walk down that hallway together peeps!
We'll be skipping down that hall Mommy!

Tipstaff
06-02-2011, 09:13 AM
This stupid Baez is trying to make fun out of all of KCs lies and act like they are just ridiculous and how could anyone believe them all so thats how weird her family, especially her mother was, to believe all her lies and how dysfunctional the family was. I can barely stand to look at him any more. I wonder how the jury feels? Re of her ridiculous lies, she is still a killer.

JB is a HUGE part of those lies and secret keeping. If he really believe Caylee drowned in the pool how could he let the activities of the past 3 years continue and advise his client ICA to remain in prison for what is an accident vs First Degree Murder? moo:banghead:

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:13 AM
Leonard Turtora - assistant manager of loss prevention at Universal. ICA watching the witness. His job deals with shoplifting and security operations behind resort. Frequently has contact with LE (OPD not OSCO). On 7/16/08 YM showed up at security at City Walk asking questions about employee. YM was directed to him.

YM asked if ICA was a current employee. He had databases of past and present employees. Database showed that ICA was not currently employed, but did determine she had previously been employed by a third party. The vendor was Colorvision, sub of Kodak - the people who take pix when you come in to park.

whiteangora
06-02-2011, 09:14 AM
LKB says some explosive evidence is going to come from the defense side when they are up thats going to blow this trial right up. I am betting Lee is going to fall on his sword for the abuse and also speak of GAs abuse.

LKB must be hanging around Leonard Padilla. :floorlaugh:

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:14 AM
I wonder if they'll ask him if she ever got Employee of the Year! :eek:

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 09:14 AM
Ahem, let's join hands as we all walk down that hallway together peeps!

Good Times!!! Now walk nicely kiddies - no rapping, no moon walking - just a nice stroll down that hallway...:great:

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:14 AM
isnt it amazing.... CA NEVER shows any kind of embarassment about any of this??

21merc7
06-02-2011, 09:14 AM
Late, but JB is asking these witnesses these questions about if they had knowledge of Caylee's death to inflame the jurors by making the State look bad. Implying the State is having this expensive trial, paying for witnesses to be there for no reason, etc... to make the jurors dislike the State. And to hopefully drive home a subliminal message that Caylee did in fact drown and it was covered up. Hope that made sense.

dunlurken
06-02-2011, 09:14 AM
I'm at Wesh. This guy is very interesting. She was a contract employee.... third party.

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:15 AM
Records showed she was last employed there in 4/06. He was also asked about 3 other names - Jeff Hopkins was one. Database showed he was employed from late 2001 to early 2002. Another name - Juliette Lewis. Database showed no one by that name. Zenaida Gonzalez - databased showed no one by that name.

Shannon33
06-02-2011, 09:15 AM
Baez makes my skin crawl with the sneaky weasel looks he is constantly making and the way he treats and questions witnesses.

When he said "puppy love eyes" I almost had to vomit!

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:15 AM
if she lied about everything... isnt it obvious this tale is a lie as well??

zoey
06-02-2011, 09:15 AM
LKB must be hanging around Leonard Padilla. :floorlaugh:

She really needs to stay off the air...am wondering if she is after a book deal....:maddening:

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:15 AM
Was later asked to validate email addresses. Cheryl Davis - couldn't verify that as valid.

shellsbells
06-02-2011, 09:15 AM
Ooh I get so fixated on Jeff Hopkins working at universal I forget that all the others "worked there" too, Juliet and Zanny

Insomnia Momma
06-02-2011, 09:15 AM
I lurve a witness who has come prepared! This guy sure knows his answers well, he must have read his depo to refresh his memory! Some other's should do the same <cough-LA-cough>

Clearly Confused
06-02-2011, 09:16 AM
LKB says some explosive evidence is going to come from the defense side when they are up thats going to blow this trial right up. I am betting Lee is going to fall on his sword for the abuse and also speak of GAs abuse.
That scares me and I pray it is not true. If Lee was going to go along with that I doubt he would be sitting with CA and GA.

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:16 AM
Laying a nice foundation for all that will follow -

suzihawk
06-02-2011, 09:16 AM
She really needs to stay off the air...am wondering if she is after a book deal....:maddening:

I have no doubt. I loathe this woman.

Azcrabcakes
06-02-2011, 09:16 AM
Does anyone else get skeeved when JB looks directly into the camera? It's like I'm making eye contact with him and he's about to attack my character.

I am not concerned he will malign me, but I get the creeps. I wonder if it is intentional or if there is something else close to the camera that he is looking at. It does happen and it is creepy to me!:escape:

kathyn2
06-02-2011, 09:16 AM
I bet Lee is also going to testify as to the pathology of his family's home and how dysfunctional it was and how/why he moved out. I bet the defense is going to get all they need from Lee to prove their theory. Kind of scares me. I think the State needs to stick to their theory but they need to address this abuse thing more seriously. I wonder if they are going to have something to refute this when the time comes and are not arrogant enough to think they have the case in the bag. They seem to be ignoring the defense position.

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:17 AM
His office was in the park. After they couldn't verify ICA's employment. YM called her and put her on speaker. Witness couldn't verify anything she said. Detectives went and got her. ICA agreed to this. 45 min later he got a call that they were outside the security gate.

Moe
06-02-2011, 09:17 AM
LKB is coaching from the sidelines, JB still going for his Perry Mason moment.

TexasDoll
06-02-2011, 09:17 AM
Lies upon lies upon lies. How exhausting! How did ICA keep this up for so long?!

fla*mom
06-02-2011, 09:17 AM
good grief she is nuts agreeing to go to Universal Studios knowing it was all a lie. What guts

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:17 AM
Ask him if she ever reported a stole phone!!

Gracenote
06-02-2011, 09:18 AM
isnt it amazing.... CA NEVER shows any kind of embarassment about any of this??

I have thought that, too. I would be mortified. But she just sits and watches like it is not even about her.

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:18 AM
this is beyond hilarious

carole
06-02-2011, 09:18 AM
Yuri knew she wasn't an employee before they went to Universal!!!

shellsbells
06-02-2011, 09:18 AM
I hope they play the universal interview today- YM gave her another chance to change her story or come clean about an accident that day. That cannot look good for the jury.

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:18 AM
lT doing an awesome job....

saying all the lies she told LT... wow... more lies

MissDiva
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
"A little bit of both" for departments. Uh, I've never worked in a job where I worked partway in two departments. I'm sure jobs like that exist...

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
I bet Lee is also going to testify as to the pathology of his family's home and how dysfunctional it was and how/why he moved out. I bet the defense is going to get all they need from Lee to prove their theory. Kind of scares me. I think the State needs to stick to their theory but they need to address this abuse thing more seriously. I wonder if they are going to have something to refute this when the time comes and are not arrogant enough to think they have the case in the bag. They seem to be ignoring the defense position.


Didn't he move out when he was about 23 or 24? I'm nervous also but I'm not sure the dysfunctional family is going to work with Lee.

shezcrafti
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
isnt it amazing.... CA NEVER shows any kind of embarassment about any of this??

I know, right? It's like she's on an episode of This Is Your Life, completely enthralled by the parading out of all these people from her past life--real or imaginary.

strawberry
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
She said she little bit of both Departments! Marketing AND Entertainment!

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
Asked if she worked in Entertainment or Marketing she said "a little bit of both" - which couldn't be true.

And here comes Thomas Manley. (imaginary)

costalpilot
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
Baez is going to point out this is not the Jeffrey Hopkins.

who IS NOT real, but a ICA fig. she just kinda borrowed the name.

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
YM introduced him to ICA. He did not see them pull in. He met them at the vehicle and they all went to the security gate together - about 50 feet. At the security gate, he had asked ICA if she was a current employee and she did not have her id on her. Told security guard they needed to get to the building she worked. She said she didnt know her employee number and that she worked in "events" for both marketing or sales, which couldn't be true. Computer showed she wasn't an employee. Gate guard said they could call her supervisor. She gave Thomas Manley - they couldn't find a record of him. At that point, witness let them all in.

momtective
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
I hope the jury see the mass number of innocent people ICA involved in her web of lies.

fifteen89
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
How can she just sit there listening to all this crap???? And what on earth does she lean over and say to JB or anyone at that table????

luckyme
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
Good lord she has guts. Made up name of supervisor in front of detectives. :floorlaugh:

Bon
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
That scares me and I pray it is not true. If Lee was going to go along with that I doubt he would be sitting with CA and GA.

I don't trust Lee, could be a ploy to confuse the jury..........The A's going one way, Lee going the other. Then who do you believe? :(

cityslick
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
This scene that the witness is describing is so incredible you couldn't make it up if you tried.

Unbelievable.

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
Ask him if she ever reported a stole phone!!

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
hands in back pcket...says...'i dont work here'... NAILED... againnnnnnnnnnnn

logicalgirl
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
This witness is so precise and concise in his testimony - it is awesome - and there it is - hands in back pockets - "I don't work here".

fla*mom
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
just sitting there listening to all the lies she has said and it does not make her flinch at all.

ebedeeb
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
ICA frowns again at the comment "she put her hands in her back pockets and says I dont work here"

She didnt like it at SA OS's either.

mankato64
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
twitter...4 or 5 jurors takin notes on this Universal charade

Sparky
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Four or five jurors taking note of this Universal charade.

momtective
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
Dayum!

and she sits there with a straight face....:doh:

mombomb
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
They began to walk to a building that had nothing to do with events. At that point ICA looked at witness and said she didn't look there. (ICA sitting there expressionless).

They then went to a conference room. He did not stay in the conference room with them. They were in there for 30 to 45 minutes. They came out on several occasions. YM came out, used his phone and went back in. At the end 2 dt came out and made calls.

No more questions by LDB.

ami
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
He's really warmed up! He's a very good witness after all! Just a shaky start.

Ohp - cross.

MissDiva
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
CM is up to do the cross.

rbrnmw2
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
Universal Interview will bury the defense case

luckyme
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
four or five jurors intently taking notes on universal.

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:21 AM
no this guy.... this is baloney

BigFatMommyDog
06-02-2011, 09:22 AM
CM cross - oy

bobloblaw
06-02-2011, 09:22 AM
Here come the Universal tapes... This is gonna be good!

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:22 AM
CM up for cross

calling it a "sham"

sleutherontheside
06-02-2011, 09:22 AM
CM is going to harass him.

costalpilot
06-02-2011, 09:22 AM
I bet Lee is also going to testify as to the pathology of his family's home and how dysfunctional it was and how/why he moved out. I bet the defense is going to get all they need from Lee to prove their theory. Kind of scares me. I think the State needs to stick to their theory but they need to address this abuse thing more seriously. I wonder if they are going to have something to refute this when the time comes and are not arrogant enough to think they have the case in the bag. They seem to be ignoring the defense position.

la is out there because he is not under attack by his sister, imo.

but he is transparent, unlike ICA.

"CMA,CMA,CMA"...who did he think he was fooling.

Bon
06-02-2011, 09:22 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Four or five jurors taking note of this Universal charade.


Praise the jury :)

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:22 AM
didnt believe it was sham... GOOD

fifteen89
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
OMGOMGOMGOMG. It was CASEY'S SHAM, not this guys. Not Melich's. Yeesh.

Softail
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
CM were you pretending?

LT - NO!

nursebeeme
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
CM says that LT was "pretending" all to let Miss Anthony say she was an employee

ami
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
CM is implying that they were... putting one over on ICA? Participating in her charade?

Cabin girl
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
This is exactly what I am talking about though, it makes her appear crazy, she's not crazy, she's manipulative and again this is why I say the SA must put a stop to the "imaginary" people, places, things... it feeds into the defense. The SA needs to introduce that these were not imaginary, but deceptive tools the defendent utilized to live the "beautiful life"

momtective
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
I just hate the way CM makes these witnesses feel like they are the ones on trial.

MissDiva
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
So yesterday the DT is complaining that they didn't thoroughly check everything, and today they're complaining that everything WAS thoroughly checked.

I wonder if they're going to try to say there was entrapment.

If I were on the jury, I would be very annoyed with CM. He comes across very interruptive and...well, that's all I can say and stay within TOS.

my2sense
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
Keep it up, CM -- alienate the jury

snowshuze
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
OK, it's all a sham on the part of the detectives. Gotcha.
LOL

Liz
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
CM: This whole meeting was a sham, right?

Me: Do you mean like how this whole defense of ICA is a sham? :rolleyes:

Insomnia Momma
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
I can't NOT stand CM's rough, badgering demeanor :banghead:

Tipstaff
06-02-2011, 09:23 AM
No one 'let ms. anthony' do anything they were simply verifying and validating her story which was a pack of lies.

fifteen89
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Casey was "calm and ordinary". Don't know that 'ordinary' is a word I would use to describe her.

It's Not the Nanny
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Are they not going to play the tapes from the conference room at Universal????????

Tiki
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
OMG - CM badgering the security guy!

jury has to think he's nuts

guitasjm
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
this guy imo..is just as wasting of crosses.. as JB

fla*mom
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
CM does not need to get an attitude with this guy. what is that all about. He has nothing to do with her lies. ARGH.

Donjeta
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Where is this man going with this "So you knew she wasn't employed here?" It sounds accusing.

kathyn2
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Why does this defense team act like the people on the stand are the criminals and attack them all? It makes them look very bad and her very guilty. They harrass people.

bobloblaw
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
ICA...always the poor victim.

Oakley
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Are attorney's permitted to badger witnesses like this? This man is not accused of anything. He's an excellent witness, I might add.

Gardenlady
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
CM comes across as a bully. What's he trying to say, that the Universal guy should have thrown out the detectives because he knew she didn't work there?

After hearing these lies, I can't see CMs questioning going over well with the jury.

rbrnmw2
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
were you pretending she worked there what???? Umm Mr Mason that would be your client

ami
06-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Even though everyone knew she wasn't an employee... you still went with her to walk to the events building?

There is no events building, sir.

teehee!