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beach
05-30-2011, 10:57 PM
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beach
06-03-2011, 01:28 PM
Here is the WESH picture-in-picure link. (http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html)

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:29 PM
Courtroom cam showing GA and CA sitting in their usual seats in the back of the courtroom. No judge or jury yet. It's 1:29

Insomnia Momma
06-03-2011, 01:30 PM
Posting for links

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:30 PM
HHBP back on bench.

dog.gone.cute
06-03-2011, 01:31 PM
I am going to try the link from WDBO this afternoon (wesh feed giving me "trouble" this morning).

Right now, the camera is on Cindy and George, sitting in back of courtroom.

:seeya:

Have a nice afternoon ...

gibby207
06-03-2011, 01:32 PM
Still seeing Universal on WESH?

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:32 PM
LDB disagrees with CM's assessment of something. Sorry missed it. Doesn't think they will get to that today. CSI will be laying pred. to witnesses tomorrow. Something about cadaver dogs.

ami
06-03-2011, 01:33 PM
Still seeing Universal on WESH?

Me too! Where's court?

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:33 PM
Jury coming back in.

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 01:33 PM
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

Anyone else see the "black dot" in the sky?

CM: is very upset as he says the State is ready to bring the dogs?

LDB: bring ? back. Laying predicate for the expert witneses. ...The cadaver dogs issues...(not near mic) she intends to have a least four or five witnesses before that issue.

HHJP: alright, lets return the jury.

liltexans
06-03-2011, 01:33 PM
... And we're back. Mason points out the dog handlers out in lobby... State says they are only here IF they get to them today.#CaseyAnthony

by cfnews13casey via twitter at 12:31 PM

jamesdoe
06-03-2011, 01:33 PM
Still seeing Universal on WESH?


You may need to refresh computer screen.

QueenD
06-03-2011, 01:33 PM
What was the argument?

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:33 PM
Next witness: Awilda McBride

mitzi
06-03-2011, 01:34 PM
I didn't understand one dang word that Mason said!

Luckily, LDB cleared that up for me.

Aedrys
06-03-2011, 01:35 PM
LDB disagrees with CM's assessment of something. Sorry missed it. Doesn't think they will get to that today. CSI will be laying pred. to witnesses tomorrow. Something about cadaver dogs.

YAY!!!! Cadaver dogs tomorrow! I can't WAIT for that!!!!

grandmaj
06-03-2011, 01:36 PM
What was Mason whining about now? Totally missed that argument.

Lucylu7
06-03-2011, 01:36 PM
I am going to gain 20 pounds during this trial,sitting in my pj's eating choc covered fruit and nuts

guitasjm
06-03-2011, 01:36 PM
hello

Jaboom97
06-03-2011, 01:36 PM
Someone got a text message-that was the radio frequency HHJP was referring to. LOL!!

QueenD
06-03-2011, 01:36 PM
I didn't understand one dang word that Mason said!

Luckily, LDB cleared that up for me.

It sounded like he still had his lunch in his mouth.

Tulessa
06-03-2011, 01:36 PM
More knee injections and I am good for a few weeks. Links in my siggy!

Insomnia Momma
06-03-2011, 01:36 PM
Cnn no pic. Wesh on universal?

I have audio and pic on CNN :dunno:

Aedrys
06-03-2011, 01:37 PM
Let's all hold hands as we start getting into the forensics...I know this is going to be so hard for all of us...*big hugs to everyone*

GiantPickle
06-03-2011, 01:37 PM
she called her Katie :(

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:37 PM
AM went with GA to Johnson Towing to received the garbage bag that was in the Pontiac

uklaw
06-03-2011, 01:38 PM
ARGHHH!!!! DT need to be objecting to these leading questions.

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:40 PM
Now showing pictures that AM took. First picture she is showing is a pic of the dumpster at Johnson Towing

JSR
06-03-2011, 01:40 PM
What I REALLY REALLY can't wait for is Vass :) I love that man! He comes across so well.

Mountain_Kat
06-03-2011, 01:40 PM
Back from Drs. office. Can someone please thank this post if all I missed was the videotapes this morning? TIA

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:40 PM
Awilda McBryde being questioned by LDB.

With OCSO for 10 years.

Audio feedback in courtroom.

In 7/08 she was in the missing persons unit as an investigator, looking for runaways, people, children, adults, AMBER. She's not sworn officer. She assists detectives and LEOs doing background work.

In 7/08 she met with GA and he accompanied her to a place off of Narcoosee Road when Caylee was reported missing and she was told by YM to go to Johnson's Towing to recover the trash bag. This was on 7/16/08. It was dark when they went. The gate was closed and they had to call the number on the gate. One of the drivers opened the gate. She explained to him what they were doing - described the vehicle - and told them they needed to get the trash bag out of the dumpster. GA knew where it was. They gained access and she had a camera.

She was shown a photo of the WSI dumpster. Photo taken before they got in to the dumpster. Photo marked as State's Exhibit #74 - no defense objection. Photo published to Jury.

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 01:40 PM
This witness is the OCSO LE who went with George to Johnson's tow yard, to retrieve the garbage bag(white)that had been taken from the trunk of the Pontiac Sunfire and thrown into a dumpster on the property. George was taken along with this officer because of his knowledge of the garbage bag, what it looked like.

LDB: is showing this witness photographs of the dumpster at Johnson's.

ami
06-03-2011, 01:40 PM
wesh is back. whew.

whiteangora
06-03-2011, 01:41 PM
This lady detective is very soft spoken and sweet, I hope Mason doesn't bite her head off on cross.

liltexans
06-03-2011, 01:41 PM
#CaseyAnthony Fellow tweeters..WESH is aware of livestream issue and working on it. Sorry!

by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 12:40 PM

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:42 PM
Next pic being shown is a pic of the dumpster with all of the tops open. LDB asks if she was the one that opened the tops. She answered that she and GA and Johnson towing employee openend them

TotallyObsessed
06-03-2011, 01:42 PM
ARGHHH!!!! DT need to be objecting to these leading questions.

Heeeyyyyyyyyyyy....stop that. :floorlaugh:

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 01:42 PM
White drawstring trash bag with a stain approximately the same size as the stain George described observing in Casey's trunk on the outside of it :sick:

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:43 PM
Now showing pics of the white garbage bags before they were removed from the dumpster

Agatha_C
06-03-2011, 01:44 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jury is now looking at picture of the garbage bag inside the dumpster. The pic was taken 7/16/08 (date is in corner of pic) #CaseyAnthony

Zinvestigator
06-03-2011, 01:44 PM
I am going to gain 20 pounds during this trial,sitting in my pj's eating choc covered fruit and nuts

I've been carrying 10 extra pounds since this all started because I am obsessed and addicted to this case and spend WAY TOO MUCH TIME reading Websleuths and not keeping to my exercise routine which I WILL get back to you once ICA is convicted!!!!!

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:44 PM
LDB asking if AM ever opened the bag. She stated no.

asked if anyone else opened the bag, she stated no.

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 01:45 PM
she says she did not open the trash bags... they were placed in brown paper bag and another brown bag placed over it to preserve the evidence

Bobbarita
06-03-2011, 01:45 PM
This lady detective is very soft spoken and sweet, I hope Mason doesn't bite her head off on cross.

She is very sweet and respectful. If Mason or anyone else attempts to bully her it will backfire with the jury IMO. You think the DT realizes that by now?

BlOnDe_GuRrL
06-03-2011, 01:45 PM
LDB should ask if the bag made AB's trunk stink!

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:46 PM
AM states that she put the white garbage back in 2 separate brown paper bags before putting it into her trunk

Mountain_Kat
06-03-2011, 01:46 PM
Trash bag double paperbagged.

Good girl. :)

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:46 PM
LDB just asked if GA ever had access to the bag, she stated no

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:47 PM
Dumpster lid was closed when they arrived. Photo shows open. She, GA and tow truck driver (Mr. Huto?) opened it. She didn't touch anything in the dumpster before the photo.

Witness shown a photo of two white trash bags. The one with the pizza box is the one she retrieved. Photo was taken before they removed anything.

Photo marked as State's Exhibit 75 - no objection by Defense - published to the Jury.

Witness circled the bag she collected.

She did not open the bag. No one but her touched the bag. She had gloves on and she put it into a brown paper bag after she retrieved it. She then put it in the trunk of her agency vehicle. The paper bag was too small, so she put the plastic bag in a brown bag then put another brown bag on top. She didn't access it again until she got to the OSCO. GA was in the vehicle with her. He did not have access to the bag. He was dropped off prior to her return to the OSCO. She then took it directly to the forensics unit to meet CSI Gerardo Pelosie (sp). That was the last time she had access to it.

She then did the property form and handed it over to him. YM then came down.

Linda7NJ
06-03-2011, 01:47 PM
Casey looks incredibly bored with all this talk going on thats NOT about her. Pretending to be interested

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 01:47 PM
LDB doing great job of showing chain of custody of the evidence

marie-chantal
06-03-2011, 01:47 PM
from Twitter:
CFNews13Casey‎ Geraldo Belosi is out in the hallway. #CaseyAnthony -fell
Twitter - seconds ago

liltexans
06-03-2011, 01:48 PM
All the jurors are looking at Mcbryde on the stand. Take notes here and there. #CaseyAnthony -fell

by cfnews13casey via twitter at 12:47 PM

kantoo
06-03-2011, 01:48 PM
She is very sweet and respectful. If Mason or anyone else attempts to bully her it will backfire with the jury IMO. You think the DT realizes that by now?

No, they probably don't. lol.

But i know i get a bad feeling in my tummy when they are so abrasive and rude...i'm guessing some of the jury may feel that way?

my2sense
06-03-2011, 01:48 PM
Think Dorothy will do cross?

Agatha_C
06-03-2011, 01:49 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
All the jurors are looking at Mcbryde on the stand. Take notes here and there. #CaseyAnthony -fell

sarag
06-03-2011, 01:49 PM
Do we know if Padilla is going to be a witness?

countzero
06-03-2011, 01:50 PM
Do we know if Padilla is going to be a witness?

A huge NO :floorlaugh:

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 01:50 PM
on July 17th retrieved poloroid digital camera and computer tower from the home

JSR
06-03-2011, 01:50 PM
Just a little tidbit about LDB. She has been practicing since 1989. She doesn't even look old enough to be practicing that long! FYI all info goten from martindale.

Education
University of Pittsburgh, B.A.; University of Pittsburgh, J.D.
About this Attorney
Not available
Admissions
1989, Florida

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:50 PM
She was also asked to retrieve a computer tower and digital camera on 7/17 from the A's house. Needs record to say what time. It was 12:15. She brought them to the OSCO. She had Tanya Depalmo with her, another missing persons investigator. It was an HP Pavilion computer tower and a polaroid digital camera. She took them to OSCO and gave them to Sgt Allen and YM.

She had no contact with Sandra Kahn (sp) at that time. This was her last opportunity to access these items.

LDB - no more questions.

BZ - no questions.

Witness excused.

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
No cross from the DT

wenwe4
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
LDB calls next witness

Awilda McAryd, OCSO X10 yrs,
Audio difficulties....
7/2008 assigned OCSO - Missing Persons Unit Investigator....look for missing runaways/children/adults/Amber alert . . . she assists in background work in locating missing persons....met w/GA when Caylee reported missing...off Narcoosie Rd....told by YM to go to Johnson's towing to recover trash bag...OCSO - reviewed papers to refresh recollection for today...dark outside - gate closed ...call number - one of the drivers opened the gate....she explained what they were doing, showed her badge, explained vehicle, GA was with her, GA knew which dumpster, gained access to dumpster and had camera with her,photo of dumpster dated 7/16/08, before looking inside to trashcan - took a picture of dumpster...introduce - no objects - received in evidence and publish....sections to the lid to the dumpster .....not in that position upon arrival - they were closed - Johnson's employee, GA and she opened lid - didn't touch anything inside dumpster prior to take photo....photo of 2 white trash bags - identified the one on the right with the pizza box........took picture first before removed or touched anything.....enter- received publish...
didn't open the bag....put it in a brown paper bag - she only touched the bag-she had gloves on...put it in brown paper bag...and put another brown paper bag over the top of the garbage bag so it would be covered - put it in her work vehicle....GA was with her during retrival but he had no access to the bag....GA was dropeed off prior to return to OCSO - forensic unit CSI member George Bloise....gave property form over then YM ...also asked to retrieve another item from the A residence on 7/17/08 - computer tower and digital camera...time? OCSO records for time....on 7/17 @ 12:15...brought them to OCSO - Tanya also a missing person investigator accompanied her......HP Pavillion computer tower....camera Polaroid Digital camera...gave to YM and Sgt. Adams(?) ....contact w/Sandra Con? - no....last opportunity access either of those items....

no cross
excuse witness

leesap
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
Do we know if Padilla is going to be a witness?

I hope not, he has too many "theories".

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
no cross... and I was just getting ready to ask you guys to keep it nice during cross LOL...

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
LDB: what item did you retrieve from the anthony's?

a computer, and a digital camera

LDB: what would reflect that?

the OCSO would reflect that.

LDB: may I approach?

HHJP: you may

on the 17th at 12:15 of July

LDB: what did you do with those items?

brought them to OCSO

LDB: who else

Depalma

LDB: are you the person who took possession?

yes

LDB: HP pavilian computer tower (numbers) and the camera was a digital camera?

yes

LDB: what did you do with items

gave to Melich and Allen

LDB: did you have contact at that point with sandra cohn?

I did not, no.

LDB: would that have been the last opportunity you had accessed those items?

yes

LDB: nothing further

HHJP: you may be excused

Oakley
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
from Twitter:
CFNews13Casey‎ Geraldo Belosi is out in the hallway. #CaseyAnthony -fell
Twitter - seconds ago

Anyone know who that is?

uklaw
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
Do we know if Padilla is going to be a witness?

What relevant matter does he have direct knowledge of?

I haven't been following this trial long but I understand the nearest thing to him having relevant info is that one of his investigators heard ICA allegedly stating something supposedly incriminating upon her release. However, he does not have direct knowledge of this so whatever he has to say regarding this would be hearsay.

Also from a tactical point of view I think you would want to keep Padilla out since it would play into the Defense argument of media hound.

sarag
06-03-2011, 01:52 PM
A huge NO :floorlaugh:

Oh, lol. I haven't followed much on him. I just know he was called a 'bounty hunter' and bailed ICA out at some point. Why a huge no? Thank you :)

Insomnia Momma
06-03-2011, 01:52 PM
I think it's very strange that the DT has been attacking this garbage from the trunk and they chose not to cross this witness :dunno:

mitzi
06-03-2011, 01:52 PM
Good! Awilda escaped the "wrath of CM".

mombomb
06-03-2011, 01:52 PM
Next witness - Christine Narkiewicz

Donjeta
06-03-2011, 01:52 PM
They probably read online that the reactions to the LE crossing wasn't favorable.

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:52 PM
Next witness -Christine Narkiewiz sp?

CSI with OCSO

marie-chantal
06-03-2011, 01:52 PM
Anyone know who that is?

I think he works for the tow yard, but I'm not sure.

Blue Ridge
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
This witness also addressing the jury :)

mikeysmommom
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Just a little tidbit about LDB. She has been practicing since 1989. She doesn't even look old enough to be practicing that long! FYI all info goten from martindale.

Education
University of Pittsburgh, B.A.; University of Pittsburgh, J.D.
About this Attorney
Not available
Admissions
1989, Florida

She looks so young because she can sleep at night, I wonder if THIS DT can?

Bobbarita
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Great. Looking at the jury.

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Yay! Another one who looks at the jury!

Off topic: I love her hair.

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
KN: forensic investigator with OCSO; BS in forensic science

sarag
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
What relevant matter does he have direct knowledge of?

I haven't been following this trial long but I understand the nearest thing to him having relevant info is that one of his investigators heard ICA allegedly stating something supposedly incriminating upon her release. However, he does not have direct knowledge of this so whatever he has to say regarding this would be hearsay.

Also from a tactical point of view I think you would want to keep Padilla out since it would play into the Defense argument of media hound.

Thank you for the detailed answer :tyou:

countzero
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Oh, lol. I haven't followed much on him. I just know he was called a 'bounty hunter' and bailed ICA out at some point. Why a huge no? Thank you :)
This is for the sidebar to answer, later. :crazy:

SuziQ
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
What???? No cross by DT? No bullying by CM?

marie-chantal
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Christine Narkowitz is on the stand. She went to UCF (you know-that school that Zanny and her sister supposedly attended)

guitasjm
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
agree/// keep padilla out...imo

liltexans
06-03-2011, 01:54 PM
I think juror #11 thinks the current witness is cute.

by stevehelling via twitter at 12:53 PM

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 01:54 PM
Intelligent woman, impressive resume'.

6Cinder1ella2011
06-03-2011, 01:54 PM
Narkiewicz Christine Investigator BS Forensics +320 hrs special crime scene training



WS use only

grandmaj
06-03-2011, 01:55 PM
Let's stay on topic to the trial and the witnesses please. Take chit chat to the appropriate threads :)

Sun
06-03-2011, 01:55 PM
rot roe, LDB can't find the right package.

Scamperoo
06-03-2011, 01:56 PM
No cross from the DT

Guess they learned something from CM's ridiculous cross of the last witness.

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 01:56 PM
She's very thorough and she came prepared. Loving this witness!

reeseeva
06-03-2011, 01:57 PM
Note how KC looks at young, educated women, such as the witness on the stand with disdain/envy.....

dog.gone.cute
06-03-2011, 01:57 PM
NO cross ? Is the DT reading here ? ? ?

TotallyObsessed
06-03-2011, 01:57 PM
This witness is VERY professional, and takes her job extremely serious. Good for her. We need more like her.

kljohnson0458
06-03-2011, 01:57 PM
As usualy it is apparent that ICA gives this particular witness the once over. I can almost see the "why did I have to do this and not be successful like this girl." She looks jealously at these women. JMO

Miaa
06-03-2011, 01:57 PM
I am going to gain 20 pounds during this trial,sitting in my pj's eating choc covered fruit and nuts

Think of it this way LucyLu7, at least you're eating fruit. ;)

kljohnson0458
06-03-2011, 01:58 PM
Note how KC looks at young, educated women, such as the witness on the stand with disdain/envy.....

I just posted the same thought. I didn't see your post. I agree 150%

joypath
06-03-2011, 01:58 PM
:twocents: This CSI specialist is a great witness!...presenting the info in JUST the "right" way to engage the jury but NOT dumbing it down!

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:58 PM
buccal swabs from KC anthony, it is sealed.

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 01:58 PM
she is opening up envelope that has cheek swabs from ICA

2goldfish
06-03-2011, 01:59 PM
This witness also addressing the jury :)



they all will now even if they wouldnt before..I never would have thought of that but if I ever have to be on the witness stand I'll sure be looking at the jury too!

shezcrafti
06-03-2011, 01:59 PM
NO cross ? Is the DT reading here ? ? ?

:wave: Hi Defense Team!

Miaa
06-03-2011, 01:59 PM
As usualy it is apparent that ICA gives this particular witness the once over. I can almost see the "why did I have to do this and not be successful like this girl." She looks jealously at these women. JMO

ica has her jaunting jaw in place. Does she realize how silly she looks? Probably not. lol

6Cinder1ella2011
06-03-2011, 01:59 PM
Properly opening evidence as per chain of possession federal law

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 01:59 PM
now opening up buccal swabs from the right cheek

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 01:59 PM
she is verifying her initials on the seals of the buccal swabs

newsjunkie
06-03-2011, 02:00 PM
What???? No cross by DT? No bullying by CM?

They assert the smell came from this trash. She would answer that no there was no overwhelming smell of decomposition coming from the bag of trash. So, no good could come from cross of this witness.

bobloblaw
06-03-2011, 02:00 PM
Where are they going with this evidence?

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 02:00 PM
Christine Narkowitz(sp?) is giving her training and her experience with the OCSO

LDB: is asking if witness has had contact with a certain package before.

CN: no

(Jose was up at table with LDB when she got the package to show the witness)

LDB: on july 21st 2008 were you asked to go to OC correctional facility to take samples from Casey Anthony

can I refer to my report

LDB: yes

I arrived at 21 44 hours. I was requested to take swabs from ICA. There are two swabs per container, I ask ICA to open mouth and I swab aggressively to obtain samples.

LDB: those are sterile items that are sealed?

yes

LDB: you also take steps to insure you are not in the sample?

gloves and a mask

LDB: I have what has been marked " i u" for identification. is that a package you have had contact in the past

yes, two ? swabs from the left cheek of Casey Anthony.

LDB: is that item currently sealed?

yes it is

LDB: if you could somehow break the seal and take the a look and see if the swabs are indeed inside.

yes they are

LDB: how do you know that?

I identify my handwriting and seal on the swab box

LDB: same as it relates to ID, is it something you have had contact?

my handwriting and my initials on the seal

LDB: what is inside

two swabs from the right cheek of ICA

LDB: if you can not break seal and tell me if you recognize the item inside?

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 02:01 PM
Witness confirms recognizing this item of evidence because of her hand writing and her seals.

liltexans
06-03-2011, 02:01 PM
#CaseyAnthony Most likely foreperson? Juror number one/murder trial juror previously. Just a guess.

by bobkealing via twitter at 1:00 PM

Mountain_Kat
06-03-2011, 02:01 PM
What was with the unsure look? Ugh.

joypath
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
:twocents: LDB is doing an excellent job in demonstrating control of evidence, aka "chain of custody" protocol. BRAVA!:rocker:

Curious Me
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
Casey can't get into this like she did watching Mom and Dad suffering and crying on the stand.

She looks on with disdain. When will they get back to HER?

Agatha_C
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Most likely foreperson? Juror number one/murder trial juror previously. Just a guess.

momtective
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
How are these swabs still sealed...were they not tested?

carole
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
Where are they going with this evidence?

To prove Caylee's remains were Caylee's remains - that Casey is the mother of Caylee.

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
CM also collected hair samples from KA as well as the buccal swabs

Insomnia Momma
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
I'd like the pulling the perps hair job :)

kitkatbahr
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
Where are they going with this evidence?

My guess is to match DNA from ICA to something found at the crime scene. They are being extremely careful to show it couldn't have been contaminated by anyone else and that it is definitely from ICA. Laying groundwork for something BIG!!!

My opinion only.

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 02:02 PM
I had to stifle a giggle when she said she personally pulled Casey's hair out.

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 02:03 PM
She "personally pulled Ms. Anthony's hair out" LOL
No wonder we all love this witness ;)

shezcrafti
06-03-2011, 02:03 PM
Sorry if this is mean, but I just delight at the idea of Casey being poked and prodded by this woman like some kind of lab rat.

MvD
06-03-2011, 02:03 PM
This witness is fabulous.

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:03 PM
ARGGHHHH!!! Leading. Again. For all the objections the defense make you think they would have taken the obvious ones. The last two witnesses probably would have had a harder time testifying to key facts if they weren't led so much.

yeknomaras
06-03-2011, 02:04 PM
Sorta wondering why this is all necessary... where's LDB going? Seems like she is on a path to something important?

Amil
06-03-2011, 02:04 PM
Ooh do we have a dna match?

joypath
06-03-2011, 02:04 PM
How are these swabs still sealed...were they not tested?


ititialed and RESEALED by the testing tech AFTER testing....this young lady was verifying HER signature as the primary signature of collection

MelissaLee
06-03-2011, 02:04 PM
KC is giving this witness the stink-eye. Any female, esp attractive female, she seems to strongly dislike.

This witness is VERY good, addresses the jury directly when responding. LDB is phenomenal as always - very thorough, keeps to a chain that's easily followed, and clear.

moo

HRCODEPINK
06-03-2011, 02:04 PM
How are these swabs still sealed...were they not tested?

Every time evidence is used for any reason it is sealed back up again. Provides chain of custody.

liltexans
06-03-2011, 02:05 PM
#CaseyAnthony In general, this jury is an impressive group who pay close attention and keep reactions muted.

by bobkealing via twitter at 1:04 PM

Ssejors
06-03-2011, 02:05 PM
How are these swabs still sealed...were they not tested?


They get tested, resealed, tested, resealed.

Everytime someone opens it they must open it in a new area of the package, sign it, and reseal it and sign it. Blah blah. But when ever someone finishes WITH the sample, it gets resealed. always being stamped, dated, signed, etc.

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
LDB and CM are showing chain of custody was properly followed with collection of the hair and cheek samples.

Great witness.

momtective
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
Ooh do we have a dna match?

:praying:

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
The tweezers weren't working properly, so she had to pull Casey's hair out with her fingers.

*yank* Oops, didn't work. *yank*

Mountain_Kat
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
What date was the hair and cheek swab evidence taken? Anyone know?

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
They get tested, resealed, tested, resealed.

Everytime someone opens it they must open it in a new area of the package, sign it, and reseal it and sign it. Blah blah. But when ever someone finishes WITH the sample, it gets resealed. always being stamped, dated, signed, etc.

aka chain of custody.

CarolinaWoman
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
I am going to gain 20 pounds during this trial,sitting in my pj's eating choc covered fruit and nuts

Me too, hubby says I am going to be sitting here until Christmas watching this trial.

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
yes I do, this also has my handwriting and my seals.

LDB: once these items are obtained what do you do with them?

turned over to boisey

LDB: seal before turning them over?

yes

LDB: sealed that evening?

yes, I believe so

LDB: need to look at seal for certainty?

yes, yes the seal on the envelope is the same

LDB: aside from the swabs of the cheek any other evidence?

yes

LDB: what was that?

hair standards

LDB: how?

lose hair standards and pulled hair standards, I retrieved her lose hair into an envelope and I personally pulled her hair out for the pulled hair standard. (I wonder how many people wanted to line up to do that deed? :pullhair:

LDB: how know evidence is not contaminated?

a large roll that is placed in my van and only used when needed.

LDB: what ever lose hair that could be obtained at that point?

yes

LDB: approach witness to id (number of evidence) take a look and tell me as something you recognize as having contact in the past.

yes has my handwriting and my initials.

LDB: what is inside

the lose head hair standards

LDB: was it sealed by you on date?

yes

LDB: what did you do with it then?

turned into lead investigator Boisey

LDB: pulled head hair? like it sounds?

it is, we are responsible for pulling mulitple areas of the head. Tweezers that are one time only didn't work so I used my hands.

LDB: make sure none of your hair or skin cells get in?

gloves and mask

LDB: may I approach the witness?

HHJP: you may

SuziQ
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
Lmao!!!! Tweezers weren't working so she had to phisically pull the hair from Miss Anthony's head.

Leila
06-03-2011, 02:07 PM
Interesting that CSI collects both loose hair and then pulls a hair from the head.

I wonder what the difference?

mombomb
06-03-2011, 02:07 PM
She's a CSI with OSCO. Been employed there a little over 3 years. She has a BS in forensic science. Currently obtaining her Masters from UCF. She received 4 months training with OSCO. She has over 320 hours of additional training in crime scene.

In 07/08 she had been with the OSCO for 4 months. Asked to assist in collecting items by YM. She was shown a package and said she had no contact with that item.

(ICA is looking a little more relaxed now than she did while watching the videos this morning).

On 7/21 she was asked to go to the jail to collect samples from ICA. She wanted to see her report. She arrived at 21:44. She was asked to obtain hair and buchal (sp) swab samples. She showed a cotton swab to the jury and explained how she rubbed them in ICA's cheek. She wore gloves and a mask while obtaining the samples.

LDB showed her a package and she said it was the swabs from the left cheek of ICA. It is sealed and she now cut it open and asked to look inside. The swabs were inside. She sees her handwriting and seal on the swab box. She was shown another package and identified it as swabs from ICA's right cheek. She opened it and similarly identified them.

These items were turned over to lead CSI Boisey (sp). She verified chain of custody.

She also collected hair standards from ICA using FBI protocol - loose and pulled. Loose hairs fall onto a brown piece of paper that she has in her vehicle. She was shown a package and identified it as the loose hair standard. She verified chain of custody. It was turned over to lead investigator Boisey (sp).

Regarding pulled hair sample, she pulled hair from multiple areas of the head. She used disposable tweasers, glove and mask. She was shown a package and identified it as the pulled hair sample. She verified chain of custody. This was turned over to lead investigator Boisey (sp).

joypath
06-03-2011, 02:07 PM
:twocents: Please note: LDB is trying to demonstrate that it IS easy to contaminate samples, thus care is taken by the collectors to avoid it by gloves & masks

bobloblaw
06-03-2011, 02:07 PM
The tweezers weren't working properly, so she had to pull Casey's hair out with her fingers.

*yank* Oops, didn't work. *yank*

:floorlaugh:

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 02:07 PM
What date was the hair and cheek swab evidence taken? Anyone know?

The hair was July 21

Insomnia Momma
06-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Well, we all know why ICA doesn't like this woman for sure! She's the one who pulled her hair :floorlaugh:

megsy
06-03-2011, 02:08 PM
What date was the hair and cheek swab evidence taken? Anyone know?

I think she said July 21st.

2goldfish
06-03-2011, 02:08 PM
the state is so ORGANISED. contrast that with the DT :|

Jetaime
06-03-2011, 02:08 PM
What date was the hair and cheek swab evidence taken? Anyone know?

July 25th 2008, IIRC.

Miaa
06-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Where are they going with this evidence?
That's what I'd like to know.
It's like they want to prove evidence was improperly taken,.....why would the state open afternoon court with such questions? :waitasec:
Off to get MORE coffee.
btw-LUV your avatar. :floorlaugh:

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Interesting that CSI collects both loose hair and then pulls a hair from the head.

I wonder what the difference?

CM said that was protocol. FBI likes both type for testing.

carole
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Interesting that CSI collects both loose hair and then pulls a hair from the head.

I wonder what the difference?

Loose hairs could possibly be from someone else??

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
LDB: contact with in the past?

yes

LDB: what is it?

my handwriting and my initials on the seal, they are the pulled head hairs from miss anthony

LDB: what happened after you got samples and sealed package

to Boisey the lead detective they were given

LDB: approach with evidence?

HHJP: you may

LDB: take a look a "jc" contact with in past?

yes I do

LDB: how?

my handwriting and my initials and date on the seal

LDB: inside?

four toothbrushes belonging to Caylee Anthony

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
I think she said July 21st.

How did they get the warrant so quickly? I think ICA would have objected if they started trying to pull her hair out without a warrant and I understand that a warrant would have to be obtained to do that.

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
:twocents: Please note: LDB is trying to demonstrate that it IS easy to contaminate samples, thus care is taken by the collectors to avoid it by gloves & masks

I noticed that. She is good! Dotting i's crossing t's. Almost as if she is cross examining her own line of questions. Fascinating.

cityslick
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
This may be boring to most people, but keep in mind this part of the trial got a ton more important after the OJ case. The jury needs to know that the proper chain of custody happened.

TotallyObsessed
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Observation...for all those that were on the sidebar and were discussing ICA appearance...not her physical appearance but her demeanor and how it changed day to day. Look at her now...vs. when she was watching those jailhouse visit tapes....Night and day. She is calm, just watching as if she is looking at her favorite tv show. No hatred and venom pouring from her pores like when she sees her mom and dad.

Dr.Fessel
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
What date was the hair and cheek swab evidence taken? Anyone know?

June 23.

joypath
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Interesting that CSI collects both loose hair and then pulls a hair from the head.

I wonder what the difference?

The principle is to collect at least a sample size of 25-50 hairs (nope don't count them, just "guestimate by volume) in order to achieve a ROOT and then non rooted hairs are used in microscopic studies.

6Cinder1ella2011
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
in a sealed tube or proper bag airtight for preservation in the evidence vault
♥ ♥ remember this all about Caylee


WS only

Blue Ridge
06-03-2011, 02:09 PM
What date was the hair and cheek swab evidence taken? Anyone know?

IIRC she said 7/21.

Could this be leading up to the banded hair found in the trunk? As in it being the same mitochondrial DNA as Casey?

Clearly Confused
06-03-2011, 02:10 PM
Lmao!!!! Tweezers weren't working so she had to phisically pull the hair from Miss Anthony's head.
Did ICA find that funny like her outburt on her mom?

chasing.halos
06-03-2011, 02:10 PM
:cry: Our sweet Caylee's brushes. :cry:

Aedrys
06-03-2011, 02:10 PM
LDB: contact with in the past?

yes

LDB: what is it?

my handwriting and my initials on the seal, they are the pulled head hairs from miss anthony

LDB: what happened after you got samples and sealed package

to Boisey the lead detective they were given

LDB: approach with evidence?

HHJP: you may

LDB: take a look a "jc" contact with in past?

yes I do

LDB: how?

my handwriting and my initials and date on the seal

LDB: inside?

four toothbrushes belonging to Caylee Anthony

I wonder why Caylee had four toothbrushes? Did they keep every one she ever had or is it normal for toddlers to have that many toothbrushes?

kljohnson0458
06-03-2011, 02:10 PM
I also think ICA is very jealous of LDB. JB does look her up and down when she approaches the DT. This witness is very professional. OCSO trains their people very well to be respectful and professional in court.

liltexans
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
Jurors are taking notes as technician looks over envelopes of evidence like #CaseyAnthony 's comb. -fell

by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:10 PM

FaerieB
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
How did they get the warrant so quickly? I think ICA would have objected if they started trying to pull her hair out without a warrant and I understand that a warrant would have to be obtained to do that.

These samples were taken 12 days after she was arrested. A warrant takes only a couple of hours to obtain.

LyndyLoo
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
Sorta wondering why this is all necessary... where's LDB going? Seems like she is on a path to something important?


All these witnesses are necessary in order to bring in collected evidence..to show "Chain of Custody" and who was the initial collector of said evidence and how it was secured and labelled...These people did NOT necessarily do any testing at all on these items...
An aside..Forensic collection and testing in reality is NOT like you see in such CSI programs...never mind the obtaining the results so fast...

newsjunkie
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
How did they get the warrant so quickly? I think ICA would have objected if they started trying to pull her hair out without a warrant and I understand that a warrant would have to be obtained to do that.

Would they need to get a warrant if she was in custody?

mitzi
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
Lmao!!!! Tweezers weren't working so she had to phisically pull the hair from Miss Anthony's head.

Bold mine

I'm sure we all would have loved to do that job! :)

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
Is ICA staring down the jurors? Hard to tell but looks possible. Stop her DT if your reading this lol.

eaglemom
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
7/28/08 4 toothbrushes belonging to Caylee Anthony from Yuri
7/28/08 1 brush belonging to Caylee Anthony from Yuri
7/28/08 1 comb beloning to Caylee Anthony from Yuri
7/28/08 1 thermometer belonging to Caylee Anthony from Yuri

liltexans
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
#CaseyAnthony Two African American jurors #2/male and #4 /female. Show no clues as to their reactions very stoic.

by bobkealing via twitter at 1:11 PM

Miaa
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
Loose hairs could possibly be from someone else??

My thot too Carole. I imagine the forensic's gatherer made sure she got an attached hair too.
They need the hair bulb for testing.

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
I wonder why Caylee had four toothbrushes? Did they keep every one she ever had or is it normal for toddlers to have that many toothbrushes?

When I was a little kid I had a bunch of toothbrushes too. I enjoyed getting them from the dentist. Maybe Caylee just liked them. Not sure. I did wonder that too, though.

mombomb
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
Witness was then shown another package. She identified it as four tooth brushes belonging to Caylee. She obtained them from YM. She put them in the package and sealed it on 7/28/08.

She was then shown another package that she identified as one brush belonging to Caylee. She got this from YM. The package is sealed and dated - 7/28/08.

She was shown another package that she identified as one comb belonging to Caylee. It was dated 7/28/08 and she got it from YM.

She was shown another package she identified as one thermometer belonging to Caylee which she got from YM. She put it in the package and sealed it on 7/28/08.

She recognized ICA as the person who she obtained the cheek and hair samples. JB stipulated it was her.

LDB finished.

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
These samples were taken 12 days after she was arrested. A warrant takes only a couple of hours to obtain.

In this case however would it not be need to be done by way have motion and/or be contested somehow. Don't think that would take a few hours.

eaglemom
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
JB cross

Agatha_C
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Two African American jurors #2/male and #4 /female. Show no clues as to their reactions very stoic.

TotallyObsessed
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
HA! DT just sipulated to the authenticity of the evidence. ICA must have been bored.

carole
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
Ugh, JB is up.

nursebeeme
06-03-2011, 02:12 PM
jb up for cross... everyone be good :-)

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
JB is doing cross

SuziQ
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Did ICA find that funny like her outburt on her mom?

I don't know. I'm watching CNN and I don't think they have show ICA at all today during testimony.

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Is it just me or is JB doing his smooth voice thing?

costalpilot
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
SH just said the jury would have to be "educated" by the DT.

hows that for a laugh

i mean really.

Agatha_C
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jurors are taking notes as technician looks over envelopes of evidence like #CaseyAnthony 's comb. -fell
2 minutes ago

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Would they need to get a warrant if she was in custody?

Too pull her hair out? I would think so

Mountain_Kat
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Love how the state even goes over the samples in the order in which they were collected. :)

joypath
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
How did they get the warrant so quickly? I think ICA would have objected if they started trying to pull her hair out without a warrant and I understand that a warrant would have to be obtained to do that.



Given the time/dates of collection, she was in custody and there was ample cause present to collect evidence so a warrant was written

HRCODEPINK
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
I wonder why Caylee had four toothbrushes? Did they keep every one she ever had or is it normal for toddlers to have that many toothbrushes?

My kids have several. More than I could tell you off of the top of my head when they were that little. But we have so many because I am such a freak about the bathroom and treat it like an area of toxic doom even when it is super clean. My kids dropped them a lot when they were that little and they had to go through the dishwasher super hot cycle before I would let them use them again.

CarolinaWoman
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
I am going to gain 20 pounds during this trial,sitting in my pj's eating choc covered fruit and nuts

Me too, hubby says I am going to be sitting here until Christmas watching this trial.

FaerieB
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Here's hoping JB doesn't make a big deal out of her addressing the jury.

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Witness not impressed or thrilled with Baez but still remains professional.

SuziQ
06-03-2011, 02:14 PM
It makes me ill whenever JB snores when he inhales.

ohiogirl
06-03-2011, 02:14 PM
ARGGHHHH!!! Leading. Again. For all the objections the defense make you think they would have taken the obvious ones. The last two witnesses probably would have had a harder time testifying to key facts if they weren't led so much.

Maybe they don't want to leave any doubt during the ineffective counsel appeal.

Agatha_C
06-03-2011, 02:14 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jurors are closely watching Jose Baez ask questions. #CaseyAnthony -fell

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 02:14 PM
LOL I love her reactions to JB.

liltexans
06-03-2011, 02:14 PM
Jurors are closely watching Jose Baez ask questions. #CaseyAnthony -fell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:14 PM

jamesdoe
06-03-2011, 02:14 PM
I wonder if he will ask if she wore a hair net?

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 02:14 PM
JB: asking if CM if she tries not to talk when she is collecting DNA

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Witness not impressed or thrilled with Baez but still remains professional.

I know. I am wondering what the Jury will think of this. If JB has not alienated them (unlikely I know) this could come off negatively for the witness.

Mountain_Kat
06-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Baez helping the state by making sure witness DIDN'T cross contaminate. :floorlaugh:

gelfie68
06-03-2011, 02:15 PM
When I was a little kid I had a bunch of toothbrushes too. I enjoyed getting them from the dentist. Maybe Caylee just liked them. Not sure. I did wonder that too, though.

My granddaughter has 3 that I know of. 2 at my house and 1 that i know of at her house.

mombomb
06-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Cross exam by JB.

She agreed she wore gloves while collecting DNA to protect from any type of cross contamination - even secondary contamination. She wore a mask also to make sure to avoid cross contamination. She agreed that she tries not to speak while taking samples because speaking can cause contamination. She is aware of touch DNA - she is not a DNA analyst. (JB trying to appear friendly).

JB finished with cross.

No redirect.

Witness excused.

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Eh? Did JB lose the last page of his cross-examination plan?

shezcrafti
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
Baez helping the state by making sure witness DIDN'T cross contaminate. :floorlaugh:

So bizzarre. He looked very pleased with himself. What is he up to?

wenwe4
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
Christine Narkiewicz - LDB

employed Crime scene w/OCSO - bachelor of Science - Forensic .....currently working on Masters University Cent. FL. - extensive training...additional 320 hours training crime scene ...employed March 2008 - employed just few months @ the time....YM requested evidence items.....LDB looking @ yellow envelope - wrong package handed to witness...LDB talking w/JB - witness took samples from KC - refer to her report arrived @ corrections facility 21:44 hrs obtain hair and buccol swabs - 2 swabs per container - kc open her mouth - witness aggressively swab inside cheek - sterile items sealed - shows jury example...she wore gloves and a mask when obtaining swabs......LDB shows 2 envelopes to witness...2 buccal swabs left cheek kc, CN opens the package - identify handwriting and seal....2 buccal swabs right cheek kc - opens this package and more identify....handwriting and seals confirmed....turned over to lead crime investigation Gerardo Beloise....sealed same date - 2nd look and confirmed same 7/21/08 date they were sealed.....in addition cheek swabs ..... requested to obtain hair standards from kc....fbi protocol - loose hair and pulled hair.....turn her head over and use fingers to shake hairs out onto paper ..... roll of brown paper supplied in their van....she also pulled hairs out herself.... envelope w/Cn's handwriting and recognizes packaging and seal and date....items inside - loose head hair standards from KC - sealed on 7/21/08 - turned over to lead investigator Gerardo Beloise - pulled hair hair.....responsible for pulling head hairs from the head - started w/disposable tweezers not working - used her hands ...gloved hands and still had mask on......another envelope - pulled head hairs from kc.... seals and handwriting and initials confirmed date - 7/21/08....turned over to lead investigator.....4 more envelopes....4 toothbrushes belonging to Caylee....7/28/08....1 brush belonging to Caylee...7/28/08, 1 comb belonging to Caylee....7/28/08....1 thermometer belonging to Caylee on 7/28/08 sealed.

Recognize kc in courtroom - obtained hair samples and buccal swabs....subject to previous objections....entered

Cross
JB - testified wore gloves when collecting dna sample - protect from cross contamination .....2ndary transfer - if CN had touched something w/dna and then touched evidence ....wore mask..reason no further dna on whatever sample collecting...while collecting dna don't even speak....try not to....don't want to cross contaminate evidence ........low copy dna - basic concepts not a dna analyst.....aware of touch dna...touch an item could potentially contain some dna - potentially.....packaging has procedures to preseve intrigty of the sample .....20 years later can go back and retest the sample....if there is enough to utilize - yes

Witness excused

ami
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
She wasn't a DNA tech, so I'm not sure what her view of DNA integrity would mean in the long run. ??

Eye Wonder
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
What was that for?

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
Wow, JB went easy on her, not that I know what he would have challenged her on. I wonder why he was all smiles, though. And no, I'm not rolling my eyes. Really.

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
7/28/08 4 toothbrushes belonging to Caylee Anthony from Yuri
7/28/08 1 brush belonging to Caylee Anthony from Yuri
7/28/08 1 comb beloning to Caylee Anthony from Yuri
7/28/08 1 thermometer belonging to Caylee Anthony from Yuri

:tyou:

LDB: do you recognize the individual of the swab and the hair samples. We stipulate these belong to Casey Marie Anthony. No further questions.

JB: you testified you wore gloves when collecting DNA samples?

correct

JB: that is to protect you from epiphial cells

any transfer

JB: if you touched someone else's DNA you can transfer your DNA

I suppose

JB: you take strong percausions because of the transfer?/

yes

JB: you wear a mask

yes

JB: so you don't get any of you DNA on the sample

correct

JB: in fact while collecting DNA you don't speak

we try not to

JB: and that is because even while speaking you can contaminate

that is true

JB: you are aware now that you don't need tons of blood

okay

JB: aware of low copy DNA

basic concepts I am not a DNA analysis

JB: touch DNA

correct

JB: the packaging that you use is specifically, you have certain proceedures to preserve the DNA

yes

JB: and in fact, if properly packaged we can go back 20 years later and collect?

yes, if the sample is still there and has not been utilized, the whole thing.

HHJP: thank you ma'am you may be excused.

Whimsigal
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
I was waiting for him to ask if she wore a hair net.

Aedrys
06-03-2011, 02:16 PM
Okay, that cross was just weird. What the heck, Baez?

LyndyLoo
06-03-2011, 02:17 PM
Witness not impressed or thrilled with Baez but still remains professional.


Awwwe..Baez is giving a tutorial to the jurors why the collector of the evidence does what she does...Makes my heart swell...and I agree with ya..Witness certainly does NOT seem impressed..and even interjects here and there to make his pontifications more accurate...Good Witness

BigFatMommyDog
06-03-2011, 02:17 PM
Gerardo Bloise (like Boise with an "L")

Lovejac
06-03-2011, 02:17 PM
what was the point of JB cross of this witness????

gibby207
06-03-2011, 02:17 PM
Did this witness bring his bowling ball? What is that? lol

Beyond Belief
06-03-2011, 02:17 PM
I wonder about the handling of the paper used to store the items. Were gloves worn when getting it out of the truck?

carole
06-03-2011, 02:18 PM
Another CSI.

TotallyObsessed
06-03-2011, 02:18 PM
Mr. B.L.O.I.S.E. looks directly at the jury and NODS!!!

Love it

Clearly Confused
06-03-2011, 02:18 PM
I love how they are all talking TOO the jury. Wait till Mason comes back up...lol

MissDiva
06-03-2011, 02:18 PM
Hahaha, and they just keep looking at the jury. Love it.

Mountain_Kat
06-03-2011, 02:18 PM
So bizzarre. He looked very pleased with himself. What is he up to?

I haven't the first clue, but I'll thank him anyway. LOL!

dog.gone.cute
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
:great: This witness is looking at the Jury when he speaks ... :great:

Did you see that Mr. Mason ? ?

fla*mom
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
Wow this guy should know his stuff!!

joypath
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
I wonder about the handling of the paper used to store the items. Were gloves worn when getting it out of the truck?


YES! Gloves are worn ASAP before collecting samples. oh, and CHANGED frequently!

carole
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
Wow, his resume is very impressive.

MaraSleuth
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
JB: and in fact, if properly packaged we can go back 20 years later and collect?

yes, if the sample is still there and has not been utilized, the whole thing.



THIS makes me very very nervous - where is he going with this??

Tipstaff
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
what was the point of JB cross of this witness????

Probably he wanted more TV time. Next week JB will have his phone # on the back of his jacket.......1-800-call-Jose.

grandmaj
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
He did that because if you remember the duct tape was cross contaminated. Just getting it on records about precautions about contamination I believe.

6Cinder1ella2011
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
Clerk swears in: Bloisd, CSI Orange country 11 y, prior experience as CSI | San Jaun PD 6yrs and other training in the lower 48 MS Criminal Justice in busines administration

mikeysmommom
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
She "personally pulled Ms. Anthony's hair out" LOL
No wonder we all love this witness ;)

He likes being on tv?
:floorlaugh:

Eidetic
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
This witness addressing the jury as well. His accent is endearing imo. Another intelligent, great witness for the state.

ami
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Heh - the defense is gonna have to get used to all the jury bonding the LE and crime scene folks are doing.

whiteangora
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Okay, that cross was just weird. What the heck, Baez?

Baez will try to use her info later to imply that Casey's DNA should have been on the duct tape. ie, she said DNA could still be present after 20 years.
But, his theory will most likely be shot down due to the harsh environment Caylee was thrown into for 6 months.

something clever
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Baez confuses me......I feel like I have literally lost brain cells after litening to him speak.

Chiquita71
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Next witness has taken the stand.

Bloisy

OCSO crime scene investigator level two, eleven years. Previous experience.

LDB: what duties for OCSO?

crime scene investigator

LDB: prior experience

I was LE in san juan Puerto Rico, after that I received training from the FBI and in Florida I have training with FBI and ATF. BA in criminology and business administration.

LDB: what are your job responsibilites

process scene, take notes, preservation, notes to lab for tests, general responsibilites

Ssejors
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
OMG Channel 9 Spelled his last name as PELOSI

SuziQ
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
what was the point of JB cross of this witness????

Call me crazy, but I think he wanted to help the state establish that all protocols were followed and evidence is good to go for 20 years. Maybe the state should hire him.

suzihawk
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Can someone refresh me (Reader's Digest version) about CA giving detectives the wrong hairbrush when asked to turn over Caylee's brush? Or was that Tim Miller? I recall something about dog hair involved. TIA

Phoebeb
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
So bizzarre. He looked very pleased with himself. What is he up to?

Wonder if she talked while taking samples?

mikeysmommom
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Probably he wanted more TV time. Next week JB will have his phone # on the back of his jacket.......1-800-call-Jose.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::great:

kantoo
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
So bizzarre. He looked very pleased with himself. What is he up to?

prepping for when the duct tape comes in?

gibby207
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Do you think Linda is going to yell at this witness "I'm OVER HERE!"

I think not...

uklaw
06-03-2011, 02:20 PM
THIS makes me very very nervous - where is he going with this??

I don't know? Casey's father?

LC446
06-03-2011, 02:21 PM
Oh, I just love Mr. Bloise. IMO he will be a great witness.

Leila
06-03-2011, 02:21 PM
Wow! Geraldo Pelosi has an impressive background in CSI!