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beach
06-05-2011, 10:05 AM
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beach
06-05-2011, 10:02 PM
I'm going to try to clarify a few things so hopefully we are a little clearer about what is okay to post in this thread and what is to be saved for Sidebar. Hope this helps. :)

Re: posting Tweets - Previously we have requested that all tweets be restricted from this thread and posted in the Twitter thread. Posting single tweets from anyone inside the courroom that can shed light on what we are unable to see via our monitors are fine to post here. (note: repetitive, multiple posts of the same tweet will be removed at mod discretion so they do not clog up the thread.) Most all of these will be from MSM reporters - I really can't think of any exceptions off of the top of my head. If they can tell us how jurors are reacting, that is huge, relevant info and we need to see it here. I ask that those of you who do post tweets still include them in the Twitter thread because we have many members who log in for a quick update and depend solely on that thread.


Re: posting about the demeanor of the defendant or witnesses -
This is the deal:
It is perfectly fine to post FACTS & OBSERVATIONS about their demeanor. (e.g., Casey is emotionless; Casey is giggling while listening to this testimony, etc...)

It is the "Casey's blouse is so low cut she must be trying to get the attention of Juror #11, the George Clooney look-a-like"; "eyebrows and hair" ('nuff said :aktion1:). Bottom line, if it doesn't add anything to understanding what is going on during TRIAL, then save these comments and post them in the Sidebar. Express those sentiments there. (Remember! TOS and Rules of Etiquette still apply in Sidebar: no namecalling, bashing and derogatory remarks simply intended to be snarky.)


Okay, I hope that helps clarify a few things.

beach
06-09-2011, 08:04 AM
:bump:

Wise Old Owl
06-09-2011, 08:58 AM
Morning

Feed is up

ICA is in the courtrroom

Let's roll

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 08:58 AM
bumping up... Hi everybody!!!!

ami
06-09-2011, 08:59 AM
George, Cindy and Lee all present today!

Wise Old Owl
06-09-2011, 08:59 AM
All rise

RammerJammer
06-09-2011, 08:59 AM
Good Morning WS friends! Ready for a new day!

BigFatMommyDog
06-09-2011, 09:00 AM
LDB hands JB and CM paper - something is funny and a big laugh

meanwhile, ICA DEATH STARES at the laptop

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:00 AM
Morning

Feed is up

ICA is in the courtrroom

Let's roll

Man, let's roll gets me emotional since 9/11. Let's get justice rolling indeed for Caylee today!

adb263
06-09-2011, 09:00 AM
Good Morning All!!! just remember this is Justice for a little girl!!

sleutherontheside
06-09-2011, 09:01 AM
LDB went over to the DT and was holding a sheet of paper up for CM andJB. Something made them laugh as they both chuckled...

16218

Sleuthsuthain
06-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Good morning all . . . so ready to watch this and read all of your thoughts.

logicalgirl
06-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Here's the Mods - where you all been? We've been playing for hours without you!

Course there was no food, drinks, ray-guns. lasers.....

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:01 AM
LOL...had my speakers turned down and couldn't figure out why I wasn't hearing anything. Duh.

dog.gone.cute
06-09-2011, 09:01 AM
George, Cindy and Lee all present today!

:waitasec:

I am "guessing" that they will be called to testify about the computer searches.

ami
06-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Hey, did we just see the top of a juror head?

Quiche
06-09-2011, 09:03 AM
This is as close to working as KC has ever been, six days a week no less.

Good morning, all!

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:03 AM
oh my... the volume is really good today...

I was skeeeered for a minute!!!!

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:03 AM
More computer guy.
Need more coffee.

Bon
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
Morning everyone! Just a bit late today! :)

Carolina Girl
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
Good morning all!

sleutherontheside
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
CM has now moved into the seat next to kC.

Wholehearted
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
JB saying the same thing he said yesterday when he started cross--let me catch up where Miss Drane-Burdick left off.

momtective
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1A-2.jpg

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
@PinCo We don't believe the Anthonys will be called today
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 9:02 AM

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
so this is recross on computer guy re: internet history

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
Baez up for recross says good morning to all

Kenziema
06-09-2011, 09:04 AM
Anyone have the links?

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:05 AM
Okay, that picture of Casey in white scared me...she should not be wearing white...she think it's her wedding day or something?

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:05 AM
this witness Bradley computer expert is the 43rd states witness to take the stand.

Maia
06-09-2011, 09:05 AM
Mornin' everyone...one day closer to justice for Caylee!

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
wesh live blog reminding us that ICA searched sci spot for chloroform 84 times
(paraphrased)

zoey
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
is it authored by me...

whiteangora
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
Bradley is fed up already and Baez has only just begun badgering him today! Wow....

cityslick
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
Okay, that picture of Casey in white scared me...she should not be wearing white...she think it's her wedding day or something?

I get the feeling she doesn't have a whole lot of choice in what she wears to trial, it's what was provided to her.

sleutherontheside
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
HAHA....Would that help refresh your recollection?

Was it authored by me?

RammerJammer
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
Again, Baez confuses the witness with his questioning.

ATTEMPTS to confuse....

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
Does JB not think we know what a URL is? ICA visited 1 url 84 times. I think we all undertood that.

ahoyhoy
06-09-2011, 09:07 AM
JB---NEVER prepared, and uses it as a tactic to get the witness to misspeak. JMO

strawberry
06-09-2011, 09:07 AM
I have to mute JB for my health...has he made any points yet?

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:07 AM
I'd be fed up too if I had to deal with Baez first thing in the morning...poor computer guy!

luv
06-09-2011, 09:07 AM
http://i55.tinypic.com/21e9lc5.jpg

ami
06-09-2011, 09:07 AM
I think the confusion over which reports, whether "time" means time spent or time of search, whether "number" means whatever it means --- is all taking away from JB's aha moment re: 1 vs 84

FaerieB
06-09-2011, 09:07 AM
"This report was authored by someone else. I agree it was made by my software..."

Shouldn't JB know this already?

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:08 AM
Baez is showing Bradley a report and the witness states this is a report that he did not create. It was using his software but he cannot speak to this report as he did not create it.

strawberry
06-09-2011, 09:08 AM
HAHA....Would that help refresh your recollection?

Was it authored by me?

B/c yesterday JB tried to get him to comment on someone else's report!!

He better not badger our friend from the North!!

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:08 AM
I get the feeling she doesn't have a whole lot of choice in what she wears to trial, it's what was provided to her.

Well, whoever picked that out, if they thought white makes her look more innocent, they are so wrong! Sorry, I don't normally comment on this, but I was shocked to see her in white. So wrong.

wvjules
06-09-2011, 09:08 AM
Keep saying 84! :)

sleutherontheside
06-09-2011, 09:08 AM
OMG....again JB gives him a report he did not do.

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:08 AM
here is link to the links for person who asked (from our most awesome softail)

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2011.06.08 TRIAL Day Thirteen (Morning Session)

Kentjbkent
06-09-2011, 09:08 AM
Casey's eyes looking very weird....if I didn't think she was medicated before, I would certainly speculated it now....watch her eyes for a few minutes....

strawberry
06-09-2011, 09:09 AM
"This report was authored by someone else. I agree it was made by my software..."

Shouldn't JB know this already?

Again? Yes he should know that cause he tried it yesterday!

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:09 AM
JB: We don't want you to speculate , sir.

(I'll BET!)

momtective
06-09-2011, 09:09 AM
DT does not want that 84 times in...Baez trying so hard to discredit the 84 times.

FaerieB
06-09-2011, 09:09 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Juror 16 shaved his several days growth and looks like a different person.

adb263
06-09-2011, 09:09 AM
Well if anyone forgot yesterdays testimony JB is doing a good job of reiterating it!!! Thanks JB!!

ahoyhoy
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
FYI--As I'm sure MOST here know, a 'chloroform recipe' page is a VERY unlikely page to 'refresh' itself.

Bon
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
I have to mute JB for my health...has he made any points yet?

Uh, NO!!!!!!!!!!:floorlaugh:

Kentjbkent
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
Does JB not think we know what a URL is? ICA visited 1 url 84 times. I think we all undertood that.

Baez Speak: URL = "You Are El"...:floorlaugh:

logicalgirl
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
LOL - going for refreshing the page as the reason for the counter - ah - weren't you saying she visited the page for 11 seconds....not working for me Mr. Baez...

Blue Ridge
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
SUSTAINED

but....

SUSTAINED

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
JB: We don't want you to speculate , sir.

(I'll BET!)

OMG. Understatement of the year! No, we just want you to say something that actually benefits our client.

ami
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
JB, STOP arguing with HHJP! Jeez, I can't believe how disrespectful he is!

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:10 AM
SA objects to outside the scope

HHJP sustained

JB: Judge I don't think it is outside the scope

HHJP: sustained

HRCODEPINK
06-09-2011, 09:11 AM
The only thing that I can see, so far, that he is going to be able to prove is that the recipe for chloroform was not on the sci-spot page. I don't see how this matters for just this one site. She was still looking for the recipe.

momshrink
06-09-2011, 09:11 AM
Casey's eyes looking very weird....if I didn't think she was medicated before, I would certainly speculated it now....watch her eyes for a few minutes....

I think she looks very tired - probably not sleeping well.

strawberry
06-09-2011, 09:11 AM
LDB looks chipper this morning.

ami
06-09-2011, 09:11 AM
How can Bradley testify about whether there were searches in June for chloroform when he was only working with deleted files from March?

Amity
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
'My Yahoo' Homepage auto-refreshes itself every 10 minutes.
Makes it look like I visit 'My Yahoo' a bazillion times a day.
Actually I only open once in the morning....it just refreshes itself all day with
the latest/updated news.

TortillaChip
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
Of course he wants to dilute the issue of 84 times..........okay good he mentioned Casey handing over the computer....Maybe LDB can clear this up real quick.

whiteangora
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
Casey's eyes looking very weird....if I didn't think she was medicated before, I would certainly speculated it now....watch her eyes for a few minutes....

Do I have to? She's scary.:crazy:

SCHTown
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

WFTV:http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

Click Orlando:http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

FOX:http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

Media player:http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

Casey Cam http://media2.myfoxorlando.com/live/...cam_shell.html
WFTVTV sound http://player.streamtheworld.com/_pl...allsign=WFTVTV

CNN http://live.cnn.com/


http://www.youtube.com/user/S0meRand0mName

Casey Anthony reference links.http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

http://mfile.akamai.com/12939/live/reflector:34407.asx
Justice for Caylee.

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/

Blue Ridge
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
and yet again....

SUSTAINED....

But but but ...

SUSTAINED!!!!!!!

Harmony2
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
The laptop and desktop did not belong to Casey so she did not give up the computers... The parents did..

azscr4mbl3r
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
JB really does bring comic relief to this sad and sometimes dry trial. I swear sometimes he asks questions that he doesn't know the answers to of the witnesses Now he is arguing with the Judge that cant be good...

Tulessa
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
Posting for links. :)

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
Uh, printed pages are now internet data?

Who knew?

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:13 AM
Again the SA objects to hearsay

HHJP sustained

JB: May I question this judge

HHJP sustained its sustained

FaerieB
06-09-2011, 09:13 AM
C'mon Linda!! Tabs!!

ETA: Thank you, YOU ROCK!!

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:13 AM
Baez Speak: URL = "You Are El"...:floorlaugh:

I am blonde... it took me a moment to get that but....:floorlaugh:

ami
06-09-2011, 09:13 AM
Why didn't he just ask him if he personally knows anything about Caylee's death?!

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:14 AM
SA the data file you were given was from 3/6 - 3/26 is that correct

Bradley: yes that is correct

Hopeful One
06-09-2011, 09:14 AM
Good morning, fellow trial addicts!

Here's to hoping it's a good day for the prosecution! :great:

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:14 AM
Do I have to? She's scary.:crazy:

She does look skeery, angry and mean.

BigFatMommyDog
06-09-2011, 09:14 AM
ahhh LDB I can put my earbuds back in

ami
06-09-2011, 09:14 AM
She's asking about tabs!!!

ahoyhoy
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
TABS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hooray!

FaerieB
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
So, so, SOOOO happy she's brought this up!!!

Not only the DT is following along. ;)

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Tabs!
Is LDB reading Websleuths?! :eek:

newsjunkie
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Which one of you texted LDB about tabs? lol

Kentjbkent
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Does anyone recall whether or not we have a juror who had a background in IT or computer science?

Or web design, etc?

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Again the SA objects to hearsay

HHJP sustained

JB: May I question this judge

HHJP sustained its sustained

I bet HHJP is tired of 'splainin' to JB what sustained actually means!:floorlaugh:

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Bradley, ususally a page is not refreshed unless a user asks it to be refreshed

SA now talking about tabs

Bradley explaining how tabs work

megsy
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Megs is a HAPPY GIRL!! She said TABS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigFatMommyDog
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
SA got the tab msg

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
#CaseyAnthony Of all male jurors 14 takes the most notes. Balding with glasses who walks with a stiff leg.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:15 AM

ami
06-09-2011, 09:15 AM
The site we're talking about is a "blog", is it not?

"I don't know which site we're talking about."

ahoyhoy
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
We KNOW what you think JB! SIT DOWN!!!

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Does anyone recall whether or not we have a juror who had a background in IT or computer science?

I believe there is more than one.

Just K
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Well, no proof of printing might explain why she had to keep going back and forth from one page to the site, SCI SPOT, she needed to manually record. That would cover her behind as to leaving no evidence on her printer.

Wholehearted
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Does JB think every site online is a blog?

Lovejac
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Finished with this witness. Who is next?

twall
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
JB-the site we're talking about is a blog, is it not? Sustained, try again, sustained, JB shut up and sat down, witness excused.

TortillaChip
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
OMG, a BLOG??? will he ever learn?????

strawberry
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
The only thing that I can see, so far, that he is going to be able to prove is that the recipe for chloroform was not on the sci-spot page. I don't see how this matters for just this one site. She was still looking for the recipe.

Is that true? HOw do you know the recipe wasn't on there?

momtective
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
I wish the jurors had an live feed inset of ICA on their monitors.

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Does anyone recall whether or not we have a juror who had a background in IT or computer science?

Or web design, etc?

Yes i beleive number 2. He doesnt take notes on computer stuff either. moo

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Please, no more computer whiz's today. Please.

KPSumms
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
bow on exit

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
Baez tries to bring in blogs on his recross

SA objects

HHJP sustained

JB tries again

SA objects

HHJP sustained

**sidebar #1**

sleutherontheside
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
JB can't stay on topic with re-direct. He should see someone about that.

logicalgirl
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
Well that didn't take long.

JB - 0
LDB - 10

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
Hey, they can read here anytime!!!! But I'm sure they were smart enough to know this anyway. I think LDB is just letting Baez continue to walk into traps. I so LOVE this prosecutor!

azscr4mbl3r
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
OMG did JB really just ask no questions except "anyone can write a blog"?

momshrink
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
I have to go to work - Big Thank You to all who post what is happening and pictures of ICA - and especially those who keep us informed about ICA's demeanor. I will be back for lunch, though - hope there is food - starved at breakfast!

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
Does anyone recall whether or not we have a juror who had a background in IT or computer science?

Or web design, etc?

got my list right here:

#2 is computer guy for pinellas county
#3 is nursing student (science background she takes lots of notes
#7 works for verizon
#9 works for verizon

grammieto5
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
Someone please me I'm wrong in thinking JB is actually making sense in questioning this witness. That he could be making a point for the DT

adb263
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
I would like to know, as I don't watch many trials, How normal is it that when an objection is sustained that the Lawyer argues with the judge? just wondering!

strawberry
06-09-2011, 09:17 AM
Is my WESH looping? Why are they showing the guy coming in again?

ETA that was weird it was replaying. What's LA saying?

ahoyhoy
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
We KNOW what you think JB! SIT DOWN!!!

I was referring to his CONSTANT reaction to an SA's objection, JB has to open his <modsnip> mouth and say "Judge, I think it's ....."

THE EGO!!!

ami
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Who is this? Lee Anthony!

Dr.Fessel
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Really glad she got to the tabs and there can be multiple tabs opened at the same time.

Kentjbkent
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
SIDEBAR!!

Everyone STRETCH! Swing those arms from left to right.....now breathe...breathe....

LolaMoon08
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Lee Anthony!! Yeah!! :great:

truthsleuth
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Lee Anthony up again!

Eidetic
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
I can't believe I over slept!

Lee Anthony

Softail
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
LA is up!

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Swell. LA. I REALLY need more coffee.

raysgirl1126
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Did she say Lee Anthony?

Lovejac
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Next witness......................

Lee Anthony

twall
06-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Lee Anthony up, he's not in courtroom, have to go get him

Disguiseduser0308
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
Lee is up.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
Lee A called to the stand

KPSumms
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
LA back oon the stand

21merc7
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
Lee did not look over at KC that I could tell

ami
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
ICA tried to catch his eye, with a smile, but he ignored.

minazoe
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
stil, I cannot get over the 84 searches for chloroform.

eightyfour

10X8+4=

just because....?

must be hard to get all those ingredients straight...maybe she didn't have a printer.


84 times....she's toast.

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
Gee...LA looks TICKED OFF.

Dr.Fessel
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
Oh good it is Lee.

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Lee says he never deleted anything on the computer

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
I would like to know, as I don't watch many trials, How normal is it that when an objection is sustained that the Lawyer argues with the judge? just wondering!

It is totally not normal and disrespectful to the court.

Softail
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
LA saying he did not delete any history!

ami
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Lee never tried to delete any internet history.

twall
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
FG asking Lee if he was on family home pc on july 16, yes, he was
did he delete any records on pc-no

grammieto5
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Well that didn't take long.

JB - 0
LDB - 10

OH THANK YOU!!! I was a little confused for awhile :-)

LolaMoon08
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Jay Blanchard Park story!! :great: Oh boy, she is in trouble.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
FG is questioning

FG questioning LA about 7/15 and his computer use

LA says he was searching where sawgrass apartments were

FG asks if he deleted any of the internet history

LA says no

FG asking about the different stories that ICA told hik

LA explaining the Zanny story

Linda7NJ
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Version number two...Zanny saga continues..........

luv
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/124ars1.jpg

KPSumms
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
can they call the sci-spot web adminstrator and have him testify as to whether or not he has the website set-up to auto refresh? That may clear up some confusion as to whehter 84 times visited was simply the site refreshing.

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
here comes the j blanchard park story she told LA...

thud!!!!

BigFatMommyDog
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
mwahahahahaha - will we learn of ICAs deleting internet history?

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
ICA tried to catch his eye, with a smile, but he ignored.

Dam* skippy he did not look at her....accusing him of feeling her up...nope ICA is alone at that table.

twall
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
August when ICA was out on bond did she tell Lee another story of how Caylee was taken?
yes, going through the JB park kidnapping story with Zanny and her sister

Softail
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
LA telling the story of J Blanchard park.

ami
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
Did KC tell Lee a different version of how Caylee was taken?

Yes. She told Lee that she met Zanny and Zanny's sister and children at J Blanchard part, and during that meeting Zanny held Casey down and told her that she was taking Caylee from her and she did that with the help of her sister.

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
OMG i never heard that before!! Liar liar. :sick:

QB.
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
FG: were you on the family home computer on the July 16
LA: yes I was,
FG: did you delete any files
LA: no
FG: In august when your sister returned from jail did she give you a different version of what happened
LA: yes she did

LA gives the JBPark version

whiteangora
06-09-2011, 09:21 AM
Lee reciting Fairy Tale # 2- Blanchard Park Saga

HRCODEPINK
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Is that true? HOw do you know the recipe wasn't on there?

First, the site has not been updated since 2006, as you can see from the updates on the front page. There is also a message on the page that states that the recipe is no longer there as of 2004 because the internet is not "mature" enough for it:

"NEWS: 8-30-04 PROJECT REMOVED
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED AT MANY OF THE EMAILS AND ATTENTION THIS PROJECT HAS GENERATED. AS MANY LINKS AROUND THE WEB EXIST, I AM LEAVING MY ORIGINAL CHLOROFORM PAGES IN PLACE, BUT REMOVING LINKS FROM MY OWN SITE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE, BUT I'M AFRAID THE INTERNET IS NOT MATURE ENOUGH FOR THIS INFORMATION. "

Lastly, and most importantly, you can go to the site www.waybackmachine.org and type in the address. They keep an internet archive of popular pages. In this archive they actually download a good bit of a lot of sites (the more popular the site, the more of it is saved) and you can go back and see what the site looked like on the dates that they captured it. For this particular site, it was saved on March 22, 2008 at 9:47 and 31 seconds. Here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080322094731/http://www.sci-spot.com/

ETA: Based on the wording of the above disclaimer, the pages may still exist on the server, but the links to them were removed. I don't know the address to those links, and without knowing the address, I don't know that you would find it. And if I can't find them and guess what address he put them under I doubt someone who can't spell chloroform would be able to either.

Sorry, that should have said 2008, not 2006 for when the Waybackmachine got it.

logicalgirl
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Lee Anthony telling the court the new Kidnapping story from J.Blanshard Park.

Held down by her wrists - so the Zanny sisters could take Caylee.

GiantPickle
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
wow - i missed this version of the story

truthsleuth
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Mr. A. on july 16 2008 were you on your family's home computer?

yes.

Did internet searching...

In Aug 2008, did your siter return to the house from jail?

Yes.

Did you have private conversations ith her?

Yes.

Did she tell you a dirfferent version of how Caylee was taken from her?

Yes. She told me she met Zanny as well as Zanny's sister and children at Jay Blanchard Park in Orlando and during that meeting, Zanny held Casey down and told her she's taking Caylee from her and did that with the help of her sister.

How was she held down?

By her wrists?

Did your sister tell you why?

I don't recall what she told me.

Mountain_Kat
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Wait a second...ICA said Zanny held Caylee down, and along with her sister, stole Caylee from ICA?!

First time I've ever heard THIS version! :eek:

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Wow, Lee seriously looks like he's in his forties and he's only twenty eight...I feel so bad for him.

Omachka
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Does anyone recall whether or not we have a juror who had a background in IT or computer science?

Or web design, etc?

There is an IT tech IIRC. He should be able to help the rest during their deliberations. :great:

FaerieB
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Bunch of jurors now noting Casey's detailed alternate kidnapping story.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
LA saying that they met Zanny at JBP and Zanny held Casey down and said they were taking Caylee away from her.

FG how did they hold her down

LA she said they held her by her wrist

FG did she say why they took Caylee away from her

LA I don't recall

FG speaking of depo and being asked that specific question

LA no I don't

momshrink
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Oh no - I am going to be late for work. LA testifying and look at ICA's face!

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
....and the ICA stares holes into LA.

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
#CaseyAnthony Bunch of jurors now noting Casey's detailed alternate kidnapping story.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:21 AM

momtective
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1A-3.jpg

When Lee takes the stand
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1AA-1.jpg

Kentjbkent
06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
So it appears we are done with the computer searches and now questioning about KC second story of being held down in J Blanchard park, correct?

whiteangora
06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
Casey appears to be fuming, brother Lee has seen the light.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
Depo dated 7/30/09 line 1 through 23??

FG bringing it up on the screen for the witness

Laynee
06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
LA states that ICA told her she was held down at blanchard park by Zanny and her sister and they took Caylee....he doesnt remember what ICA told her about Why she was taken....

ami
06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
JB bobbing up at the defense table like a pop tart.

miss plum
06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
LA is repeating this story in a contemptuous voice, "Zanny" ..."the Nanny", it's obvious he hates having to repeat this execrable nonsense.

azscr4mbl3r
06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
LA on the stand telling the kidnapping story. Is it hearsay if you talk about an imaginary conversation? Xanny and her sister IE

Poodleluver
06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
I would be sooooo embarrassed at all these lies coming out in front of everyone! I would have to hide my face!

QueenD
06-09-2011, 09:24 AM
Does anyone recall whether or not we have a juror who had a background in IT or computer science?

Or web design, etc?

Jurror #10, Verizon guy (15 yrs) may have knowledge.
Other than that I didn't see on my list.

ButForFortune
06-09-2011, 09:24 AM
Watch for KC or Lee wrist-kissing everyone!

TotallyObsessed
06-09-2011, 09:24 AM
This is great. Proves the history of lying about what happened to Caylee. I.E., drowning just another lie.

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:24 AM
Whoever said this has aged LA is sooo spot on...the man is gray...looks defeated. Sad what this *ahem* ICA has done.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:24 AM
LA reading: depo

FG: does that refresh

LA yes

FG what did Casey tell you

LA said that she was told she is not a good mother and taking caylee away from her for this reason

Softail
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
Zanny told Casey Not to go to the police!

Kentjbkent
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
wow - i missed this version of the story

If I recall correctly, we originally heard this story through Leonard Padilla on NG show in late 2008...Leonard retold the story as it was told to him by Lee?:waitasec:

Eileen730
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
Wow, Lee seriously looks like he's in his forties and he's only twenty eight...I feel so bad for him.

Shame isnt it?
He seems very evasive tho don't ya think?
Like pulling teeth?

21merc7
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
:eek: Zanny thought KC not a good mother! Is imaginaZanny really Cindy in KC's stories???

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
LA explaining what Casey said Zanny looked like

TUSK
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
lee playing dumb,again

Wise Old Owl
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
can't wait until LA gets to the "script" part! Script for 31 days

truthsleuth
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
Referring to Lee's depo now ... Mr. George asking Lee to refer to several lines.

What did your sister tell you the reason for Zanny's actions were?

Casey wouldn't be a good mother for Caylee and Zanny was taking Caylee from her to teach her a lesson.

Did Casey give you a description of Zanny?

5'10" ish, long hair, deep complexion, Hispanic

MissDiva
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
In Zanny's opinion, Casey wasn't a good mother, per Lee.

WOW. Casey's imaginary nanny told Casey that. Casey is seriously more mentally disturbed that I thought. I can't help but wonder what psych evals have turned up.

amysmom
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
Casey appears to be fuming, brother Lee has seen the light.

He still tried to cover for her by claiming he couldn't recall what ICA said re: why Zanny took Caylee..<sigh> "She was a bad mother"..I had a feeling he wasn't gonna want to say but all in all he's doing what he must do as hard as it probably is for him.

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
LA is repeating this story in a contemptuous voice, "Zanny" ..."the Nanny", it's obvious he hates having to repeat this execrable nonsense.

I completely agree... poor fella.....

4realtho
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
What about the script that Zanny gave ICA, I want to hear about that to.

Laynee
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
oh, Zanny was taking Caylee to teach ICA a lesson..because Zanny didnt think ICA was a good mother to Caylee.......no truer statement has been made :(

ami
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
Reports that Zanny was doing it for Caylee's own good (making imaginary Zanny right on the money)...

Makes me think of split personalities. Zanny was ICA's conscience. I think DT needs to run with that new defense.

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
uror 11 (gym teacher) is on edge of seat. This is common for him. #CaseyAnthony -fell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:23 AM

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:25 AM
FG pg 280-lines 15 -21

twall
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
Lee describing Zanny's description as told by ICA to him.

LiveLaughLuv
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
Wait a second...ICA said Zanny held Caylee down, and along with her sister, stole Caylee from ICA?!

First time I've ever heard THIS version! :eek:

Held Casey down...and took Caylee to teach her a lesson...handed her a script to follow for 31 days....

This is Zani story #3....so now the jurors know she's done nothing but lie so why would this OS have any truth...Me thinks she's done...stick that fork in her now...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

21merc7
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
So it appears we are done with the computer searches and now questioning about KC second story of being held down in J Blanchard park, correct?

For now. Don't know if computers will be revisited or not.

MissDiva
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
:eek: Zanny thought KC not a good mother! Is imaginaZanny really Cindy in KC's stories???

That's what I started to think.

QB.
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
FG: did she give you a detailed description of what ZG looked like
LA: yes, (gives the description)

FG asked LA what the reason ZG gave for taking Caylee - reason was to teach kc lesson and that she was not being a good mother

Kentjbkent
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
Whoever said this has aged LA is sooo spot on...the man is gray...looks defeated. Sad what this *ahem* ICA has done.

For those who know how to do it, would be very interesting to see a side by side photo comparison of Lee from 2008 and today...

I agree he has aged drastically....

Lovejac
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
SOOO very glad that the SA has the depo on the computer screen to help "refresh" LA's memory.

Azcrabcakes
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
Casey's eyes looking very weird....if I didn't think she was medicated before, I would certainly speculated it now....watch her eyes for a few minutes....

Agreed. My feed appears a tad slow-motion, and when I put the Casey-cam in full screen, I can see all of her facial gestures clearly. An expert in lie-detection and body language could tell a lot from these grimaces, smirks and expressions.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
The depo states a further description

JB objects.. he has already given a description

HHJP overruled

LA furthers the description per his depo

butwhatif?
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
ICA and LA....

momtective
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1AAA-1.jpg

Aedrys
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
Shame isnt it?
He seems very evasive tho don't ya think?
Like pulling teeth?

I think he's bitter and hates having to retell lies he actually gave some credence to at one time. He's realized how bad Casey really is and he's hurt and angry about it. Plus, she accused him of sexual molestation. Talk about burning anything left between them. Great job, Casey.

MissDiva
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
Reports that Zanny was doing it for Caylee's own good (making imaginary Zanny right on the money)...

Makes me think of split personalities. Zanny was ICA's conscience. I think DT needs to run with that new defense.

I agree.

Linda7NJ
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
I see anger on Casey's face:floorlaugh:

RiverRat
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
Wait a second...ICA said Zanny held Caylee down, and along with her sister, stole Caylee from ICA?!

First time I've ever heard THIS version! :eek:

Leonard Padilla told us!!!

Wholehearted
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
LA doesn't seem to recall much. Just like the first day, I can't tell if he's trying to be evasive or not.

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
casey looks ill! I want her to blow in front of jury!!!

ami
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
Please just give Lee his depositions to refer to already...

stilettos
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
LA voice breaking "I don't remember what I said" booo.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:28 AM
LA does not recall alot of what was said in the depo. (personally I believe he is being very careful not to give any different info than what he gave that day)

sleutherontheside
06-09-2011, 09:28 AM
16221

16222

angelmom
06-09-2011, 09:28 AM
Anyone think LA is being deliberately dense, or is it that he's trying to be careful to say nothing that JB can jump all over?

Watching this is painful, but I don't get the idea that he's lying. Just very uncomfortable, which is totally understandable.

KPSumms
06-09-2011, 09:28 AM
Shame isnt it?
He seems very evasive tho don't ya think?
Like pulling teeth?


Must be very hard that the testimony your giving could sent your sister to death row...just have to keep thinking about positive thoughts of Caylee to get through this.

Eileen730
06-09-2011, 09:28 AM
[QUOTE=Kentjbkent;6641416]If I recall correctly, we originally heard this story through Leonard Padilla on NG show in late 2008...Leonard retold the story as it was told to him by Lee?:waitasec:[/QUOTE}

Ya know leonard P really has no reason to lie. He is a bit eccentric but i think he wants justice for Caylee!

If ya notice G and C had a cease and decist order drawn on him but like the energizer bunny he keeps talking and talking ..

TiaM
06-09-2011, 09:28 AM
It speaks volumes to me that Lee Anthony, ICA's brother, who searched and searched for Caylee, interrogated his sister endlessly, and most importantly, got all the Zanny descriptions and various versions of the "kidnapping" story firsthand - cannot really recall the details of said "kidnapping" and the physical description of said "Zanny".

That tells me he has long ago discounted any of that story as being "real".

Go Lee!!!

Linda7NJ
06-09-2011, 09:28 AM
I think she was so used to leading her parents and Lee around by the nose she felt darn sure they would back her newest version for this trial. SURPRISE! They're not!

minazoe
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
boy...she is just so prolific...

I have also noticed that casey has a low forehead and her ears seem set really low..I wonder if there is something developmentally wrong with her...I know she is very intelligent...but if you observe her from certan angles...she has certain qualities..

I bet the shrinks would love to see a brain scan.

Harmony2
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
I recall Lee nervously giggling during most of his depositions. I am so glad he has not done that when he has tesified in court...

Sleuth5
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
The anger just oozes from her this morning.

gelfie68
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
LA does not recall alot of what was said in the depo. (personally I believe he is being very careful not to give any different info than what he gave that day)

That is how I am reading it as well. I think he really wants to make sure there is no confusion.

luv
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
http://i56.tinypic.com/33yqhjq.jpg

TotallyObsessed
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
Lee is reluctantly telling the truth, as he knows it. But it is like pulling eye teeth. I can't imagine forgetting details of THE MOST important event that has ever happened in your life.

Laynee
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
ICA appeared to think the whole situaton was "sureal" welcome to ICA'w world..it was all sureal!

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
LA says casey's reaction was that she did not do anything to stop Zanny from taking the baby

Horace Finklestein
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
<modsnip name for casey Anthony> looks mad today.

truthsleuth
06-09-2011, 09:29 AM
Zanny was approx. 100 lbs. and darker complexion.

What did your sister tell you she saw as Caylee was taken from her?

Casey said she was shocked, couldn't believe it was happening, sort of surreal. She was scared and didn't know what to do.

MaraSleuth
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
I would be sooooo embarrassed at all these lies coming out in front of everyone! I would have to hide my face!

If you notice - she looks down with her eyes - to me it's like she is embarrassed that this is being repeated.

Sleuth5
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
I recall Lee nervously giggling during most of his depositions. I am so glad he has not done that when he has tesified in court...

He did a little of that the first time, iirc.

logicalgirl
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
we are seeing another side of Lee. I think this was set up that he "doesn't recall his words" so they can pull up his exact testimony so he doesn't get anything wrong.

Talking about the whole thing was "surreal" that she didn't try to stop them because she was afraid and didn't know what to do.

That Zanieda was controlling her through her MySpace - to instruct her. She said she would go to places Zanny told her to go to, to try to find Caylee, hope to see her and fulfill her side of it.

Did you ask her what Timer55 was?

butwhatif?
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
DT conference re LA's testimony

4realtho
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
LA can't remember a dang thing....This just drives me crazy. It didn't happen to anyone of us here at WS but I'm sure we could get on the stand and recall what happen to each person in this soap opera.

sleutherontheside
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
Waiting for a tweet to indicate if the jury is laughing.

jmfstl
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
LA says ICA went to different places Zanny told her to as she felt obligated??

ami
06-09-2011, 09:31 AM
Ah. Zanny said she was a bad mother, took her daughter, and in order to get her daughter back and show she was actually a good mother, ICA was to attend hot body contests and various clubs, steal money and buy lingerie at Target. Makes sense.

Sleuth5
06-09-2011, 09:31 AM
TIMER 55!!!! Ooooh, she doesn't like that.

truthsleuth
06-09-2011, 09:31 AM
Zanny would instruct Casey what to do. Casey said she tried to fulfill whatever obligations were put on her.

nursebeeme
06-09-2011, 09:31 AM
timer55!!!

ICA told Lee that she didn't create it and that from the date caylee was taken from her until caylee's birthday there were 55 days of time



oh holy night! (my comment)

luckyme
06-09-2011, 09:31 AM
#CaseyAnthony Casey told Lee Zanny had the password to Casey's My Space and would send her messages, instructions on what to do
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 9:30