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strawberry
06-10-2011, 01:58 PM
Can anything happen if they don't swear a witness in as an expert? Because JA has yet to do that! Is that a big deal?

Maybe they don't have to if she is the County ME? KWIM maybe it is understood that in homicide cases she is the expert for cause/manner of death?

cityslick
06-10-2011, 01:58 PM
Here we go.

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 01:58 PM
If I understand....Dr. G is not an expert witness. She is speaking in an official capacity which differs from a n expert hired or consulted for the PURPOSE of testifying.

Shadow5618
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Are Cindy and George back?

pinkfly
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
She is presenting expert opinion and it is not being objected to and the jury is hearing it so she must be recognized as an expert. Hope all is okay.

sandiegomermaid
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Thankgod for live CNN HLN has WAY too many commercials!

MelissaLee
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Whoa.

Death not reported for a long time, body was hidden, body was placed in a closed container (plastic bags), tape on face = homicide.

Cause could be duct tape over the airways to cause suffocation or plastic bags used to cause suffocation.

Exact cause of death can't be certain - only bones remain - but enough scientific evidence, such as duct tape etc, indicate homicide.

LglNrs
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
~Absolute Confidence in Dr. G's voice...Seal the Deal, Dr. G~

MrsT
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Sitting on hands starting now!

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
cross should be good

here come CM

Broderick
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
But don't the jury need to hear that Dr G is formally accepted that she is state's expert witness??

Not sure how that works, but seems not to be an issue continuing on after the objection prior to lunch if that was what the objection was for...

adb263
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Wow that was much shorter Direct than I figured!!

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Hold on folks.

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
ICA seems threatened by Dr. G as she should be...here comes the cross...and CM...

strawberry
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
I can't listen to this..let me know how it goes (CM attacking her that it could have been an accident covered up).

Drama Queen
06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Oh Boy...cross exam by CM!

Sleuths4Me
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
ugh CM asking Dr. G if she is ok...she is showing true emotion unlike your client

Softail
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
CM talking about the news, and circus around the Anthony home. :rolleyes:

2goldfish
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
IMO dr G believes the tape was COD. something about the way she talked about it although I get that she cannot say with with any certainty legally.

HRCODEPINK
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
Mega pizzzzeeeeddddd!
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1AAAAAAAAAAAA.jpg

This shot makes me wonder if KC used to watch Dr. G on TV. Talk about wishing you could have met under different circumstances.

Broderick
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
Short time questioning Dr. G by the SA. I guess that is good, but I wanted to hear more...

Ssejors
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
CM on Cross, asking Dr.G is she was aware if this was a big case in Orlando.

Getting to her wanting to be famous?!!! CM can go rot in a cell w ICA

MEM2010
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
Hi I'm new here so hope it's ok if I jump in.

But my biggest problem with the states case is the duct tape being the murder weapon. Very hard for me to believe that someone would try to suffocate a person with duct tape??. there are much easier ways to suffocate someone I am sure!

I even tried covering my own mouth and nose with the tape and could still successfully breath. So I don't know how other people feel about that.

I still believe she overdosed the child with chloroform

also what does ICA? mean? Icky Casey Anthony? Inmate? thx

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 02:00 PM
CM trying to insinuate that Dr G had lots of knowledge about this case.

Soulmagent
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Sitting on hands starting now!

Me too but I might have to resort to ripping up a pillow ,they are antzy

adb263
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Dr. G could have been a juror with her lack of knowledge of the Hubub around this case!!

Sleuth5
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
You can almost hear the Emperor speaking to ICA: "Yes, yes, I can feel your hate...your hate makes you stronger..." I mean, just look at her seethe!

Solomisskitty
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Why would Dr. G have wanted this tried in Lake County, as she just said?

sorrell skye
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Puleeeeze - CM is trying to insinuate that the "circus-like" atmosphere surrounding the case influenced Dr. G's homicide determination.

ZsaZsa
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
No more questions from JA.
CM is nowhere near a match for Dr G...

Now that song 'Send in the clowns'...keeps going through my mind

costalpilot
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
cross should be good

here come CM

so, did the dt get together and AX JB as the questioner

after his performances and their reviews?

Amster
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
CM insults my senses.

dog.gone.cute
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
:maddening::maddening:

CM is "maddening" ... he is INSULTING Dr G with this line of questioning ... if she watched the news and the 'high' interest in this case ...

He should be embarrassed ... that is just unncessary to question this brilliant Doctor about IRRELEVANT ISSUES !!!

QueenD
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
LOL Dr. G doesn't listen to news listens to NPR (?)
she is throwing DT theory that she got on this case for publicity.

Tiki
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Bill S WFTV said Dr g is a defense atty's nightmare to x examine

.

Cherry Baby
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Oh gee whiz, here comes CM. I wouldn't even bet money on the fact that he's going to discredit her because she has a show, and she's a famous type person.

Already he's making me grind my teeth...

strawberry
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
If I understand....Dr. G is not an expert witness. She is speaking in an official capacity which differs from a n expert hired or consulted for the PURPOSE of testifying.
Thank you ..that's what I was getting at. Not so succinctly though

Ssejors
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Dr.G Saying she was hoping that this case would fall into the Lake County Jurisdiction. She didnt WANT to be involved in this case.... Who DID?!

OH Right.. JB

Bobbarita
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
Dr. G will not be intimidated.

Kenziema
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
Why would Dr. G have wanted this tried in Lake County, as she just said?

I think she said she hoped the remains would have been found in Lake County. It can't be easy to autopsy a baby :(

suzihawk
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
CM has some nerve talking about a circus atmosphere. When it's been the DT that been the ringleaders of that circus. IMO

strawberry
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
Bill S WFTV said Dr g is a defense atty's nightmare to x examine

.

That's GOOD!

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
Dr G speaks very steadily is answering CM questions, smoothly

Rallihanna
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
IMO she put a chloroform covered something under the duct tape over her mouth... The duct tape was to hold it there...

Drama Queen
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
Dr. G did not want this case...no way...no how. This was not the kind of celebrity she would seek out. She really is a class lady.

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
All jurors except No 16 have notebooks or are taking notes. He is twiddling his thumbs. #caseyanthony
by biancamprieto via twitter at 1:02 PM

Sleuth5
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
ICA doesn't mind bone discussions as long as her "guys" are doing it.

ZsaZsa
06-10-2011, 02:02 PM
Why would Dr. G have wanted this tried in Lake County, as she just said?

She was already very busy. More work.
She didn't know of all the 'circus' as CM called it until later...

adb263
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Why would Dr. G have wanted this tried in Lake County, as she just said?

I would never want to work on a child's bones! IMO just maybe that is what she is thinking!!

mitzi
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
I can't get any link to not jerk the film and skip parts of the questioning!

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
HAHA Dr. G caught CM in a misleading bone ID.

grammieto5
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Is KC's head shaking up and down?

stilettos
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Hi I'm new here so hope it's ok if I jump in.

But my biggest problem with the states case is the duct tape being the murder weapon. Very hard for me to believe that someone would try to suffocate a person with duct tape??. there are much easier ways to suffocate someone I am sure!

I even tried covering my own mouth and nose with the tape and could still successfully breath. So I don't know how other people feel about that.

I still believe she overdosed the child with chloroform

also what does ICA? mean? Icky Casey Anthony? Inmate? thx

:seeya:Welcome....I use it for Inmate Casey Anthony...but yours works too.

Drama Queen
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
OK...He may be all yucky and rancid but she is having him for dinner!

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
DrG is very good at explaining her points. She is keeping the attention of the jurors.
by stevehelling via twitter at 1:03 PM

Juror No 3 also does not have a note book in hand. #caseyanthony
by biancamprieto via twitter at 1:02 PM

pinkfly
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Why would Dr. G have wanted this tried in Lake County, as she just said?


so it would be someone else’s problem and not involve her

grandmaj
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
What's she doing with her forehead?

I'm glad you noticed that. She wrinkled up her forehead when the Dr. stated suffocation by plastic bag is another form of suffcation. I took the wrinkled forehead of Casey to mean nope got that wrong it didn't happen like that. She didn't do it when the Dr. talked about chloroform.

JSR
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Dr. G comes across so very well. Her smile is so beautiful. I think it was wise to have CM do this cross. I don't like CM's tone but he's far better than JB. His crosses get so rambling and take so very long.

davehead21
06-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Why would Dr. G have wanted this tried in Lake County, as she just said?

I am assuming because it would be very difficult and upsetting to deal with a dead child, especially one who is a victim of homocide. :(

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
I will say it's been good not to see JB today...

Whisperer
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
I've noticed, grandmaj. It goes along with her bizarre hand movements -- really ugly hands in my view -- creepy kind of way she has of touching and pulling on herself, etc.

It's strange...I have been thinking the same thing as far back as the first video @ target. There is something about her hands that bother me. I just can't quite figure it out. Her hands seem to posture and move quickly.

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
Dr G speaks very steadily is answering CM questions, smoothly

and correcting him often!

mck16
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
Is KC's head shaking up and down?

Her head is shaking, not especially up and down. Just shaking.

Dragonlady
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
When Dr.G spoke the words my heart skipped a beat, I felt bad, just bad this is so wrong, poor Caylee.:(

wenwe4
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
JA w/Dr.G - provide envelope - canvas bag - received in evidence (kc puts on sweater)
KU - baby blanket (WTP) - received in evidence -
KM - body bag with vegetation - received in evidence after CM checked and confirmed w/JA....
KK - bag containing tied black plastic bag - received
KO - untied plastic bag- received
KR - bag contain shorts in the photo - she didn't see shorts in photo - she examined the shorts not the photos - received
KT - bag containing clothing/letters and stitching - received
KS - (approach counsel for a moment....JA - CM rather than have the Dr. open bag - hair mat - received

when we broke discussing cause and manner of death - manner classification of death based upon all info available...scientific, historic, medical, helps us to determine what happened....bring expertise ....Manner of Death in this Case is HOMICIDE.

based on 3 main items...first we know from observational studies experience - red flag child not reported immediately to LE if there is an injury....

body is hidden - one of the things we look for in homicide

bodies are in closed containers, not always but closed container or plastic bag - look for in a homicide

found in a field decomposed - duct tape on the lower half of it's face...no child should have duct tape on it's face when they died, no reason to [put duct tape on face after died....we see this as homicide

chain of events that ultimately results in person dying....cause is the thing that caused the death.....based upon skeletal remains....homicide of undetermine means.....it is a homicide but don't know the means in which homicide occured...

that duct tape was over mouth and nose possible, suffocation with plastic bag could have .....evidence of chloroform found in investigation of this case...could a child ingesting? chloroform cause death - yes...absolutely(?)

we don't have enough scientific information to determine means.....unless that trauma hurt those bones - can't say ....cannot rule out any trauma even gunshot that went past the bone.....even stomach injury wouldn't show .....not aware of any illness specifically asked for that infor and was told there were none historically...


cross -exam
CM - Dr. G....live in Orlando area...period of time 4 months prior to remains being found....aware of media attention....I don't watch news and listen to NPR - aware but not to the extent others....circus like atmosphere? don't know....a lot speculation about the case....if remains found ...she was hoping it would be Lake County - would have liked it to be out of Dist. 9, she came back to handle case....news or references prior about chloroform? told that by investigation there was a question of chloroform....reasoned perhaps it may have been used ....one of the possibility to examine....bring in an expert? brought in a toxicologist who had dealt with bones - not a common thing - Dr. Goldberger...Uof FL - sent to him piece of left femur....picture was tibia taken for dna...piece of the left femur sent to Gold... look for chloroform and other volitle chemicles....alcohol, isoporpenol....anything contributed to this child death....not a myriad very limited what to do with bone - whatever tests on bone could be were done....tried...all tests negative (he only looked for volitle)

present when DR. W. Spitz ? (object- sidebar)

Leila
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
Is KC's head shaking up and down?

I noted that too! KC seems to be slightly nodding her head up/down.

BigFatMommyDog
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
oh CM taking a page from JBs book -

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
i didn't even hear the objection--how'd we get to sidebar?

Mountain_Kat
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
CM gets a mini score. No chloroform found in bone. I'm not sure, though, how likely it might be to find traces of it in bone, either in a fresh body or one badly decomposed.

hannahsnana
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
LOL Dr. G doesn't listen to news listens to NPR (?)
she is throwing DT theory that she got on this case for publicity.

Yes! I thought I was the only one. Home or car, NPR every day all day for me.

Dr. Know?
06-10-2011, 02:04 PM
NPR, National Public Radio

http://www.npr.org/

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
CM likes to namedrop.....Bet nobody name drops HIS name after this debacle of a case.

nursebeeme
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
I cannot believe he just tried to get the WS stuff in there! really???

gelfie68
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
Her head is shaking, not especially up and down. Just shaking.

She's more than likely shaking her leg or bouncing her leg.

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
CM asked Dr G if anything was found in the toxicology.

sidebar

bobloblaw
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
Anyone remember if any of the jurors are familiar with the DR G show?

mydailyopinions
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
Dr. G will not be intimidated.

Any woman, or man who can have a job like Dr. G does, cannot be intimidated. IMHO

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
Jurors were taking notes before objection and sidebar #CaseyAnthony was looking over at them
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:04 PM

LglNrs
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
Short time questioning Dr. G by the SA. I guess that is good, but I wanted to hear more...

~I think we will hear more from SA, after CM's cross...We'll see what CM wants to toss onto the spaghetti wall~

MissJames
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
She is really spelling out what the jurors should be thinking.

That's the perfect way to explain what she's doing.

costalpilot
06-10-2011, 02:05 PM
Bill S WFTV said Dr g is a defense atty's nightmare to x examine

.

imagine if JB was still crossing

the horror, the horror

nursebeeme
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
CM gets a mini score. No chloroform found in bone. I'm not sure, though, how likely it might be to find traces of it in bone, either in a fresh body or one badly decomposed.

it is a volatile so would not be found in the marrow anyhow..

moo

2goldfish
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
When Dr.G spoke the words my heart skipped a beat, I felt bad, just bad this is so wrong, poor Caylee.:(


me too, I burst into tears. it just brought it home so hard the way she said it.

gelfie68
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
My text msg just said Judge Perry seems amused by this sidebar.

SuziQ
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
IMO she put a chloroform covered something under the duct tape over her mouth... The duct tape was to hold it there...

I wonder about that too. When looking at the duct tape that was analyzed, there are what appears to be numerous pin pricks in the tape.

Tiki
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
Is dr Spitz a DT expert or former

sandiegomermaid
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
CM is stupid doesn't he know Dr G had her own tv show way before Caylee's death?


CM on Cross, asking Dr.G is she was aware if this was a big case in Orlando.

Getting to her wanting to be famous?!!! CM can go rot in a cell w ICA

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
CM gets a mini score. No chloroform found in bone. I'm not sure, though, how likely it might be to find traces of it in bone, either in a fresh body or one badly decomposed.

I am sure that JA will re-direct and ask that question.

Bobbarita
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
What is she looking at? Sidebar info?

stilettos
06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
CM gets a mini score. No chloroform found in bone. I'm not sure, though, how likely it might be to find traces of it in bone, either in a fresh body or one badly decomposed.

I don't really know..does anyone else. I think our nurse said if not long term it won't show up. IIRC.

strawberry
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
CM gets a mini score. No chloroform found in bone. I'm not sure, though, how likely it might be to find traces of it in bone, either in a fresh body or one badly decomposed.

JA will clear anything like that up. I'm not sure if can be found in bone.

Themis
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
If I understand....Dr. G is not an expert witness. She is speaking in an official capacity which differs from a n expert hired or consulted for the PURPOSE of testifying.
I qualified my government officials as experts when they were testifying about things that required their professional education and licensure in order to render a binding opinion. The practice of medicine goes beyond an act of government.

Searchfortruth
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Bill S just said that JA will drive home the point, with Dr G, that chloroform (especially with non frequent use) will not show up in bone analysis.

my2sense
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
I noted that too! KC seems to be slightly nodding her head up/down.

I think she's silently agreeing with CM -- she is, once again, being picked on -- and CM is going to point that out IMO

Sleuth5
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Dr. G nailed the reasonable assumption that it was a murder, regardless of the cause. The DT can't really get a jury to believe that there's anything far-fetched about her assessment in that regard.

shezcrafti
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
CM gets a mini score. No chloroform found in bone. I'm not sure, though, how likely it might be to find traces of it in bone, either in a fresh body or one badly decomposed.

BUT, Dr. G did preface her answer a bit when she said that it is highly unusual for these types of toxicology tests to be performed on bones anyway. We have to remember that Caylee's body was so badly decomposed that not much could be learned from it. I really hope the SA makes this point in redirect.

I am certain that if Caylee had been...um...less decomposed...Dr. G would have found chloroform in her system.

TortillaChip
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Why would Dr. G have wanted this tried in Lake County, as she just said?

CM was trying to insinuate that she wanted the case for the fame. And she got him when she said no, she hoped it was elsewhere, in Lake County......so as usual no point made there by CM.

imawitch
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
I think Dr.G is great, may the gods/goddess bless her as Dr.G is speaking for OUR CAYLEE..

Aedrys
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Well, Dr. G., we are SO GLAD this case fell into your jurisdiction. I know I am! You are a truly one of Caylee's heroes!

Mountain_Kat
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
I think CM is probably doing about as well as he can on cross. He'll try to drive home his version of how the duct tape was postioned, but other than that...not sure what he's gonna get.

CuriousTwo
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Are GA and CA in court today? TIA

strawberry
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Dr. G had her show before all this. MAYBE ICA killed Caylee to get on HER show.

Tipstaff
06-10-2011, 02:08 PM
It's strange...I have been thinking the same thing as far back as the first video @ target. There is something about her hands that bother me. I just can't quite figure it out. Her hands seem to posture and move quickly.

Could it be you relate these hands to the ones that murdered Caylee and that image pops into your head as ICA moves them, covers them, twists them?

Rallihanna
06-10-2011, 02:08 PM
There is no way that ICA, who is this self-motivated, would have gone along for 3 years with sitting in a jail and taking the wrap for an accidental drowning. Right there the DT has lost this case.

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 02:08 PM
I wonder about that too. When looking at the duct tape that was analyzed, there are what appears to be numerous pin pricks in the tape.



Ya know, this makes me wonder :waitasec: There was a pic shown today that had the blanket and another piece of cloth that they couldn't identify what it was.

Did anyone else see this, too?

strawberry
06-10-2011, 02:08 PM
She's an excellent teacher, I know that from her show.

Solomisskitty
06-10-2011, 02:09 PM
When Dr.G spoke the words my heart skipped a beat, I felt bad, just bad this is so wrong, poor Caylee.:(

Dragonlady, Your photo of Bundy causes my stomach to flip every time I see the picture. I was young and living in Pensacola when he was captured, and perhaps you have some sort of connection to that time as well. My eyes pop every time I see the photo because of my memories. Respectfully, I do not see the correlation between Bundy and this case tho.

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:09 PM
IIRC.....it is not called an "Autopsy" if it is only skeletal remains.

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 02:09 PM
I love how Dr. G. gestures with her hands when she talks. I do that, too.

dog.gone.cute
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
"Surprise Surpise" ... ICA is looking "up" more ... not holding head down with hand over mouth ... looks like she is just comfortably sitting there with a sweater on ...

:waitasec: I wonder if the DT has been reading here ? :waitasec:

adb263
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
CM is much better than JB...I will give him that!! still don't like the condescending attitude he is using on witnesses though.

Tiki
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
Dr G correcting CM left and right - making him look like a goony

.

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
Her head is shaking, not especially up and down. Just shaking.

It looks like she is swinging her foot/leg under the table and that is just making her whole body shake up and down a bit. Just my opinion though since I can't see under the table obviously.

Big forehead wrinkle when Dr G mentioned a "cranial wash".

21merc7
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
OOh, tested for Xanax!

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
Tested for alprazolam. Alprazolam = Xanax. Oops, she just said it.

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
Juror 11 is sitting forward in his seat, elbows on knees. He moves around a lot in his seat. #caseyanthony
by biancamprieto via twitter at 1:10 PM

Drama Queen
06-10-2011, 02:11 PM
HA HA HA!!! She is so smart and articulate. Caylee would be so proud of this lady who is giving voice to her short life.

fifteen89
06-10-2011, 02:11 PM
Now why can she look at this Dr. testifying but not the last Dr?

susietigger
06-10-2011, 02:11 PM
CM is much better than JB...I will give him that!! still don't like the condescending attitude he is using on witnesses though.

He can at least give a hint of where he is going and everyone isn't like :waitasec:

DalesWife
06-10-2011, 02:11 PM
Thankgod for live CNN HLN has WAY too many commercials!

I'm watching 212 live on Comcast.

I've heard of Dr. G but have never seen her on television. I am amazed at how easy she is to understand, she's very precise and is very easy to follow. Love listening to her!

Searchfortruth
06-10-2011, 02:11 PM
how many times must CM ask if there was trauma present before death ?

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
Dr. G. has this twinkle in her eyes. She knows what CM is trying to do, and she's very confident in what she's done and what she knows.

biggirl
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
KC is glaring at Dr G in a very hateful way!

MEM2010
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
Dr. G is making the point that no matter what the person who was ultimately responsible for Caylee Anthony is responsible for her death. And that person is Casey Anthony! hope the jury is taking that all in!

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
Dr G says she absolutely did not cut open the skull open...like it wasn't even something she was considering.

Bobbarita
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
Whoa "means of homicide"!

grammieto5
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
She is presenting expert opinion and it is not being objected to and the jury is hearing it so she must be recognized as an expert. Hope all is okay.

If this is not okay could this be used for an appeal?

JenniferTx
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
Someone must have given Casey a pep talk during lunch. She seems a bit chipper now.

Tipstaff
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
Seething best describes ICA today. Wow she is angry.

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
"The means of the HOMICIDE could not be determined."

adb263
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
He can at least give a hint of where he is going and everyone isn't like :waitasec:

Agreed, he does tend to wander around lost in the woods.

Softail
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
The circumstances did not fit anything other than a homicide!

momtective
06-10-2011, 02:12 PM
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/1AAAAAAAAAAAAAA.jpg

Blue Ridge
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Ohhh awesome Dr G!!!!!!! Clarifying again that it is a HOMICIDE.

Hamsterdance
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
"The means of the homicide could not be determined" She will not be trapped into answering the way CM wants.

2door73chevy
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
No Zanax found.

sorrell skye
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Dr. G: "The circumstances did not fit anything but a homicide."

"Nothing from media entered into my decision."

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Dr. G. saying not "probably" a homicide. She's pretty certain.

Emeralgem
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Dragonlady, Your photo of Bundy causes my stomach to flip every time I see the picture. I was young and living in Pensacola when he was captured, and perhaps you have some sort of connection to that time as well. My eyes pop every time I see the photo because of my memories. Respectfully, I do not see the correlation between Bundy and this case tho.

i see an eerie correlation in their facial expressions..

kantoo
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Only logical conclusion!

BigFatMommyDog
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
CM trying failing

stilettos
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Dr. G. has this twinkle in her eyes. She knows what CM is trying to do, and she's very confident in what she's done and what she knows.

I love this witness and her matter of fact testimony. Not qualifying or explaining....No I did not. Little smile...she knows CM she is on to your tricks...she be smarter than you could ever be.

Poodleluver
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
He is so rude!! Arrrrghhh!!! Counting to ten........

Themis
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
"Not probably" "The only scientific" She's a very strong witness!

Girlrilla
06-10-2011, 02:13 PM
Not "probably" a homicide, homicide is the only logical conclusion.

Broderick
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
dang commercial again. She was just reiterating homicide again.......

These commercials are getting longer and longer and more frequent on WFTV.

susietigger
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
No Zanax found. Was that in a hair test?

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
CM trying to argue Dr. G down and she's more than holding her own

GiantPickle
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
GO DOCTOR G !!!!!! I love this woman.

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
HAHA Dr. G. brings up accidental drownings.

PMLsmom
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
Okay, had to mute...Thanks to you brave souls for continuing on. I'll just read the cross..

Mendara
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
CM just got her. She is nervouse. She slipped about scientific information. Slurring her words seems nervous. I hope she can recover.

Searchfortruth
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
OT, but my daughter and I were faithful Dr G viewers for a long time...Love her calmness, objectivity, intelligence and persistence in finding the truth.

Sleuth5
06-10-2011, 02:14 PM
Claiming that her reasoning for believing that this was a homicide because it is not based on "science" presumes that observation is not relevant in science. That's stupid prima facie. :cow:

Dragonlady
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dragonlady, Your photo of Bundy causes my stomach to flip every time I see the picture. I was young and living in Pensacola when he was captured, and perhaps you have some sort of connection to that time as well. My eyes pop every time I see the photo because of my memories. Respectfully, I do not see the correlation between Bundy and this case tho.

I was very young when Bundy was executed but I remember it well.
When I see ICA I think of Bundy, the victims were different but those evil soul less eyes are the same to me, here we have 2 attractive people who thought that the world only revolved around them, both in Florida, both on trial fighting for their lives so I guess that's where the correlation is for me.

Softail
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
WOW! CM is really stepping in it.

Dr. G just mentioned an accidental drowning. They are "reported"!

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
In 100 percent of accidental drownings, EMS was called, Dr. G. says.

How many ways can they bury Casey further via cross-ex?!

costalpilot
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
ICA

the bell tolls for you

thank you Dr G.

adb263
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
LOVE DR. G!!!!!!!!!!!

Cant stress this enough!!!!!!!

CM should just sit down!!!!

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Rundown in jurors 1. Woman, legs crossed, taking notes 2. Man, hands folded in lap 3. Wman, facing witness,hands in lap #caseyanthony (cont)
by biancamprieto via twitter at 1:14 PM

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
My God, this is an incredible smack down of CM by Dr. G. And she is VERY convincing.

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
It absolutely has something to do with this case. Dr. G.

Solomisskitty
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dr G correcting CM left and right - making him look like a goony

.

CM just needs to sit down now.

smart blonde
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dr. G., another hero for Caylee.

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
she just mentioned accidental drowning.....and CM just said that has nothing to do with this case....

ebedeeb
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
100% of accidental drownings in her county ...EMS is called...drill it home Dr G

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
OMG Dr G just said that in her jurisdiction there is 100% immediate reporting when a child accidentally drowns.

CM tried to shut down that answer right away but no go.

CarolinaWoman
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dr. G is goooood!

Blue Ridge
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
She is sooooooooo wise to all his tricks.

jamiect
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dr G.. You go girl!!!

QueenD
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dr. G is putting CM in his place.

JustMeDeb
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Loving Dr. G!! Sit down Mason

gitana1
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
She has to speak slower and a bit more calmer.

Tiki
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
did CM try to object to Dr G's answer?

.

Bobbarita
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Preponderance of evidence, GOOD!

Debbie3223
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
wow mason is one rude mo fo
interuppting her all the time

PGWodehouse
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
100% of accidentally drowning in her area 911 is called immediately. Therefore, this is not accidental death by drowning. Manner of death: homicide.

Go, Dr G!!

TortillaChip
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
CM a big fail here, and now probably turning off the jury big time.

ZsaZsa
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dr G says she absolutely did not cut open the skull open...like it wasn't even something she was considering.

She did not need to- she simply had to turn it upside down and she could look throughout the cavity without cutting anything. He doesn't mention that though..
Dr G is very self assured, she knows a Homicide when she sees one, and CM will never tangle her up. She is also permitted to use common sense in her job.
CM will get frustrated with her, far earlier than she will with his questions.
She will make sense to a Jury....

Amster
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
I'm CHEERING!!!!

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Dr. G is fighting for Caylee!!!!

She will not be silenced by CM.

Mountain_Kat
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Wow...Dr. G getting worked up!

21merc7
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
I am LOVING Dr. G's testimony and stopping CM from trying to twist it too!

Mendara
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
okay she just shut it down in CM's face. Thanks.

He just failed.

3girls
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
OMG I am loving Dr. G!!! She is making a point of how this child was discarded like a bag of trash.... Woohoo! She is good.

cityslick
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Dr. G is hitting homeruns all over the place explaining why it was a homicide.

eelie
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
LOVE Dr. G. I love this! She is doing fabulously!!!!!!

Serjen
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Oh my god i love dr. G!!!

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
4. Woman, notepad in lap 5. Woman,facing witness, notepad in lap 6. Man, legs stretched in front of him, hand on chin. #caseyanthony (cont)
by biancamprieto via twitter at 1:15 PM

#CaseyAnthony Dr G is giving Cheny a run for his money.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:15 PM

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Dr. G. is on fire.

JSR
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
How rude CM doesn't like her answer so he interrupts her.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DR. G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Camille
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Oh man! CM opened up a response from this witness that he did not want. Score.

lowens1975
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
You GO Dr. G!!!!

Boots-OK
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Gooooo, Dr. G.....Very passionate!!!!! Love it <3

strawberry
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
I can't wait to hear this later. I just can't listen to it as it happens. I always get nervous that DT will accidentally score a point.

amayla
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Wow, Dr G is just as good as I hoped she'd be. I think Mason is doing a good job with the witnesses today. I'm so glad Baez has not done the questioning today.

GiantPickle
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
a perponderance of the evidence....logical conclusion...tossed in a field to rot in a bag of trash is a clear indictation....put in a bag is a big read flag....never seen in an accident....


100% of the time accidental deaths are reported unless there is a good reason not to be...

these are all dr G's words.

sarah1215
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Oh how I love Dr. G!

logicalgirl
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Slam! Not a drowning!!! In 100% historically all cases called an EMT.
Tossed in a field and left to rot is a huge red flag.
Duct tape any where on a face is a huge red flag of a homicide.
Slam, Slam SLAM!!!!

SuziQ
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
I love this lady!!!!!

Eye Wonder
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
YES YES TELL IT LIKE IT IS DR G!!!! She has me in tears....

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
WOW. I cannot even go into everything she's saying right now, but it's amazing and damning, and this completely seals the deal for ME. I was on the fence about accidental vs. premeditated until this very moment.

THANK YOU, Dr. G.

Someone please post everything she's saying right now.

robotdog
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
she is slaughtering CM

thank goodness for this lady.

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Dr. G keeps bringing up the duct tape.

I love that

ladybug
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Holy cow. Dr. G is GOOD. She doesn't miss a beat. Isn't intimidated. Phrases like "tossed in a field to rot in a bag" and "Take for instance all accidental drownings in my area...100% EMS was called immediately."

It's Not the Nanny
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
This is AMAZING!!! Chills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
She's going there....keeps mentioning...31 days...tossed in a field to rot....and duct tape..

biggirl
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Wow She just nailed the nails into KCs coffin. You GO DR G!!

MissJames
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
CM is getting waaaaay more from Dr. G than he wants.LOL
I love her !

my2sense
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
I'm having a hard time typing and happy dancing at the same time!!!

Mendara
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
putting the baby in a bag is never a clue of an accidental death.

Searchfortruth
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
i see an eerie correlation in their facial expressions..Me too Emeralgem, in fact when I saw the pics, side by side, I wondered if they were distantly related.

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
#CaseyAnthony Dr. G "The fact that there's duct tape attached ANYWHERE to that child's face is, to me, indication of a homicide."
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:16 PM

#CaseyAnthony Dr. G gets passionate as she explains why this is clearly a homicide
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:15 PM

Big moment of case #DrG talks about drownings always reporting mason says that has nothing to do with case... Though was opening statement
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:15 PM

Leila
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Oh wow................100% of the time accidental deaths are reported!

fifteen89
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Think CM is wishing he hadn't asked that last question?!!

suzihawk
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
OMG OMG Dr. G is AWESOME!

100% of accidental deaths are reported!

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
OMG...I am ready to see Dr. G. jump over the witness bench and strangle KC.

kantoo
06-10-2011, 02:16 PM
YOU GO GIRL!

:great::great::great:

smart blonde
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
The defense is now getting the very best testimony to prove the prosecution's case.
I love it.

Hamsterdance
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
She's getting emotional "We know 100% of the time accidental drownings are always reported"!

Rallihanna
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
Oh is she schooling him!

gitana1
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
That was intense! Wow! She really brought it home. Bet CM wished he hadn't asked the question! Child dumped in a field to rot, never put in a bag when it's an accident!

Broderick
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
she just mentioned accidental drowning.....and CM just said that has nothing to do with this case....

shrug... schizophrenic defense....

Quiche
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
she just mentioned accidental drowning.....and CM just said that has nothing to do with this case....

Big oops there, imo.

Tiki
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
Dr G letting us hear Caylee's voice

I'm sobbing

Thank you Dr. G!!

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Girlrilla
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
KC mouthed something right before this...as Dr G was explaining accident should and usually is reported especially by person who is supposed to care for that child.

Fluffy Puppy
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
Boy, this is it, isn't it? If they jury believes her, it is over, imo. Mason HAS to go after it hard.

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
7. Woman,notepad in lap 8. Woman, notepad in lap 9. Man, notepad in lap 10. Man, taking notes 11. Man, taking notes #caseyanthony (cont)
by biancamprieto via twitter at 1:17 PM

cityslick
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
I knew this was going to be good. She was clearly ready for this testimony.

rosepetal1065
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
Dude has his hands full........hehe

Softail
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
Dr. G Rocks!

CM is really stepping in it! BIG TIME!

ZsaZsa
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
BRAVO Dr G!
She will not be quieted or bullied by this old ****.

TiaM
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
I don't know about ICA - but MY stomach is certainly churning.

Exhausting.

jamiect
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
Every jurors eyes fixated on #DrG as she says 100 percent accidents reported #CaseyAnthony is stoic
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:17 PM

Mendara
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
HAHAH I love Dr. G. She is scholling CM>

3girls
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
The atty is trying to argue with Dr. G and she is winning. IMO

Pooh
06-10-2011, 02:17 PM
Dr. G. just won this case for the prosecution!! CM needs to give up.

Amanda
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Preach it Dr. G!!!!! Don't let that <mod snip> mess ya up!!!

Beyond Belief
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
I love her!!!!!!!!!

tehcloser
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Home run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Dr. GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

katydid23
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
" The means of the homicide could not be determined, yes."

" That is our standard course of business."

" Not probably, I think that is the only logical conclusion..."

" We know observational studies are part of our science.."

"We systematically went through this, including drownings, 100% of all accidental drownings included 911 calls..."

By my experience, and by what is known by how homicides occur, and the red flags to me is indication of homicide.

We know 100% of the time accidental deaths are reported, unless there is good reason not to.

dog.gone.cute
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
:great::great::great::great:


GO DR G !!


Great Testimony !

There WILL be Justice for Caylee !!

whiteangora
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Thank you Mr Mason, would you like to insert the needle in her arm too after you convict her?

BigFatMommyDog
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Cm is now just making stuff up - what a crock

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Observational data!!!!

liltexans
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Every jurors eyes fixated on #DrG as she says 100 percent accidents reported #CaseyAnthony is stoic
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:17 PM

Blue Ridge
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
Reminding him of the "red flags"...haha

GreenTeam
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
CM is being argumentative!

gibby207
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
CM, you are rude.

Sedona722
06-10-2011, 02:18 PM
100% of accidentally drowning in her area 911 is called immediately. Therefore, this is not accidental death by drowning. Manner of death: homicide.

Go, Dr G!!

This is so true!! As and ER nurse, I have seen many. That is why I cannot believe GA is involved. He was in PD. They have CPR, it is required.