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Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
JB's taking up the low tech option with his huge pad of paper exhibit.

Softail
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
He's got his paper to fight high tech animation.

That just struck me as hilarious! :lol: :silly:

nursebeeme
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
Kent: it was superimposed live caylee over skull showing how duct tape could have covered both her nose and her mouth

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
LOL When JB mentioned Photoshop being used to make websites, for a MOMENT I thought he was going to ask Dr. Warren to fix his (JB's) website for him.

fifteen89
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
KC mouthed "no this is stupid".

Well, she could end it all by telling the truth.

Kentjbkent
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
Please forgive me, but I have been out. What is this video of? TIA!:tyou:

And to add.....have we seen this video???

stilettos
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
Oh geez, i was only kidding when I suggested the big notepad to JB.

You need to stop telling him stuff MissJames...giving the boy some bad ideas.

Tiki
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
JB has no idea what PhotoShop is

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
AGAIN....JB mentions websites.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

grandmaj
06-10-2011, 03:56 PM
Kent it was an animation that would show that had Caylee's face been in tact that the tape could have been over her nose and mouth at the same time.

Sleuths4Me
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
If I were the jury I would be wondering why she wasn't "crying" at this evidence

Tipstaff
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
KC mouthed "no this is stupid".

Well she is welcome to take the stand and correct our impression.

reeseeva
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
Hope Jeff A. on cross, know how old the picture is...

4Jacy
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
ICA is starting to fume..she is going to lose it..

Oh, I hope so. I would love to see that but I would especially love the jurors to see it.

Sleuths4Me
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
How old Caylee was in the photo...well she was older than 1yr old and less than 3yrs old...

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
Wow. JB really doesn't know much about anything to do with computers, it seems. He just asked the witness if Photoshop is something you use with web sites?

Quiche
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
JB's taking up the low tech option with his huge pad of paper exhibit.

He blocks the jury's view of KC with that dang thing-- that's what it's for, imo.

Kentjbkent
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
Kent: it was superimposed live caylee over skull showing how duct tape could have covered both her nose and her mouth

Aw....gawd....:sick:

(Thanks Nurse!)

Scamperoo
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
That fact that I perceive Mr. M as a misogynist makes this even better! Can't wait to hear it for myself. SHe looks pleased with herself.

He underestimated her for sure..

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
The white pad on the easel seriously drives me insane. All this time, all the resources (yes I said resources), all those lawyers and all they can come up with is this????

cityslick
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
When the animation played earlier on the lawyers laptops,the whole thing didn't play. It was just the beginning like a test. #caseyanthony

stilettos
06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
And to add.....have we seen this video???

No we haven't seen it IIRC it is a computer generated time lapse of a photo of a live Caylee with Casey and the skull that was found with duct tape...for placement.

MsFacetious
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
I wonder if Baez is going to have to spell something... :innocent:

PassTheMotrin
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
Ohboy, here comes Baez with his circus props again.

Tomorrow, he's expected to drive a tiny clowncar into the courtroom.

:floorlaugh:

technicalconfusion
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
LOL When JB mentioned Photoshop being used to make websites, for a MOMENT I thought he was going to ask Dr. Warren to fix his (JB's) website for him.

Ummm...photoshop is not used to make websites. HTML is used to make websites. Just sayin.

Mountain_Kat
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
JB actually making some valid points here.

(ducking)

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
Oh yay, Pictionary. I'm good at this game.

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
Holy carp now JB is playing Pictionary with Dr Warren.

kyrasmummy
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
Baez the next Picasso......not

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
Nice......JB tries to say this is speculation....but the witness states it's a form of DEMONSTRATION.

Have you ever noticed that DEMONSTRATION includes the word DEMON?

kantoo
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
Please forgive me, but I have been out. What is this video of? TIA!:tyou:

The video lines up the skull with Caylee's eyes and teeth. Then a strip of duct tape appears above the mouth. #CaseyAnthonyby oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:57 PM

Video showed a faded skull over Caylee's face in pix with her mom #CaseyAnthonyby oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:56 P

(done by a forensic anthropologist)

Softail
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
JB is drawing now. To counteract the high tech video animation!

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
OMG. JB is going to draw a model?! This will be...different.

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
Ummm...photoshop is not used to make websites. HTML is used to make websites. Just sayin.

I know that. What I found funny is JB mentioning websites, when NONE of the links on his work. So JB + website has a Pavlov's dog effect on me, and I automatically start giggling.

I hope that clarifies.

greycoupon
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
JB just forgot to ask if you can use photoshop to create a blog.

These days "photoshopped" is commonly used as a verb describe altering or creating fake photos. This may not register with most of the jury; it just jumped out of me, mostly because the DT continues to be confused about technology.

Girlrilla
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
JB is not an artist.

tehcloser
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
JB and his "drawerings" are just trying to get me banned. Oh DoCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need your etch-e-sketch.

Mountain_Kat
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
Uh...did JB change his marker color because of what I said about the red marker yesterday?! :eek:

(Sure makes one wonder.)

Blue Ridge
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
Grrr, JB.... no, the witness can't tell you 100% that Caylee died specifically from the duct tape...he wasn't THERE when it was wrapped around her poor little head!!!!!!!! Are these questions basically the same as "were you at the Anthony home on the 16th...??"

Drama Queen
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
I feel like we are playing pictionary! Ummmmm....baked potato on a plate.

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
WHY can't Baez use an ACTUAL photograph and then use the draw on the screen thingy?

I swear the white pad might be where I lose it with this case!

ChasingMoxie
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Photo timeline during video playback, after it starts it looks like she says "I just want it to stop" angrily - but it seems ICA is mad and can't muster tears, AF maybe coaching her, trying to calm her down.

Softail
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Darn. I was waiting for him to write "Duck" tape.

pjmale
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Hope JB uses spellcheck.

2goldfish
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
heaven help us, JB has FOUR colours of sharpie.

Kentjbkent
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Not sure if anyone else can hear Baez either, but for benefit of those working and not watching, can someone describe what it is Baez is drawing???

Ssejors
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Lip Reading of ICA:

"She needs to stop looking at me"...

(said 3 times....??)

Then she leaned in to DS




She is glaring VERY OBVIOUSLY at someone. She looks to her RIGHT to watch JB and the wtiness but there is someone or something that she is GLARING at that is a little to the left and more central in the court room. As she glares.. her jaw juts out

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
JB actually making some valid points here.

(ducking)

He could be! I'm just having trouble paying attention to what he's trying to get at, while laughing at his bloopers!

Broderick
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
JB is not an artist.

My stick people look likes 'sticks'. haha.

Dr. Know?
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Holy Cow! JB is copying Doc Fessel's drawings!!!!

liltexans
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Baez calls it speculation Dr. Warren calls it demonstration four jurors taking notes but believe three are alternates #CaseyAnthony
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:58 PM

Insomnia Momma
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
I feel like I'm playing Pictionary with JB and his wrinkled pad of paper. :floorlaugh:

MissJames
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
He is doing this on the fly.It will not be good for the defense,IMO.

Sleuths4Me
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Is JB drawing this to scale?:waitasec:

Mendara
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Jose is now trying to make HIS OWN rendering - with colors and all. Not at all scientific as he is not a chemist.

Tipstaff
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
JB actually making some valid points here.

(ducking)

The instruction to the jury said all this prior by the judge. Just a demonstration of what could be possible.

SailorMoon
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Baez's easel o' white paper is really embarassing for him. Everyone else is at least in the 20th century and here he is with an easel, misspelled words and what not. NICE.

mibright
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Ha ha! It said "Manible" Spelled it wrong.

Camille
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Witness is trying not laugh at JB's drawing.

whiteangora
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
I wonder if Baez is going to have to spell something... :innocent:

No, but he is showing us that he is an arteest! omg

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
IS JB fracking kidding me with this primitive cave drawing?

Tiki
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
JB makes his own demo of duct tape over Caylee's mouth
thereby reinforcing the SA's case.

.

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
JB and his "drawerings" are just trying to get me banned.

You and me both!

Oh no - now the witness has to stand down.

shezcrafti
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
JB sucks at Pictionary. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3817/drawingk.png

Donjeta
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
What the heck? If Caylee was found with duct tape in her hair HOW can the duct tape not have been associated with her death or the disposal of her remains? Roy Kronk just accidentally happened to put her skull and her hair in the woods where there just accidentally happened to be bits of duct tape belonging to the Anthonys?

TortillaChip
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
OMG don't let him draw on that easel thingy------- that's so scientific, Baez!!!

technicalconfusion
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Question of the day:

Baez: When a person is alive generally their hair is on top?
Warren: Correct.

Openmyeyes
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Oh fun: Pictionary!!!

I guess that Jose is drawing: gondolas in venice.

Tipstaff
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Jose is now trying to make HIS OWN rendering - with colors and all. Not at all scientific as he is not a chemist.

Nor is he an artist.

Amster
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Looking for any points JB is making....the tape was not attached to the top of the hair mat. Sorry, Jose.

Girlrilla
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
NOT an artist...

C-Squared
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
According to JimLichtenstein: When the animation played earlier on the lawyers laptops,the whole thing didn't play. It was just the beginning like a test. #caseyanthony

Is that true? It appeared to be the entire video based on the amount of time that elapsed.

katydid23
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
JB actually making some valid points here.

(ducking)

Ashton will tell us how old Caylee wss in the picture so that point will be gone.

And the 'speculastion' is not a big deal, the jury knows it is speculation.

The drawing, we will have to wait and see how well that serves him.

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
KC just laughed out loud! Unbelievable

christee
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Oh, JB
I'm almost embarrassed for him...almost

Mike Myers and his "drawwrings" comes to mind.

Niner
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
gets to use colored pencils

stilettos
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Oh my Lord JB with his backward a** drawing...come on!!!

LglNrs
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Two favorite recent tweets:
#1: @WDBO
AM 580 WDBO
Baez: When a person is alive generally their hair is on top? Warren: Correct.

2: #caseyanthonyBelvinPerry Belvin Perry
And now a rousing game of Pictionary! #CaseyAnthony

mitzi
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Remind me not to let Jose do a portrait of me! LOLOL!

TotallyObsessed
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
JB's visual aid just helped me see it EVEN MORE CLEARLY. The ductape lay on the ground first, the mandible next and then the hair mat. Soooo...I would conclude as decomposition took place, the mandible fell off and the hair fell out...and all landed on TOP of the duct tape.

Serjen
06-10-2011, 04:01 PM
OMG he's coloring...

tut med
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
look Baez has his magic scientific kindergarten drawing board.. good grief

Camille
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
Casey has a look as though WTH is Jose doing now.

AvalonBlue
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
Now everyone can see JB's artwork except the witness and he's going to stand down and have to contort himself so the jury and court reporter can see him! Wow, what a difference technology could make if only JB would decide to use it!

tehcloser
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
Really, wth is JB doing???????????????

ebedeeb
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
Yes ICA ...this is your attorney...that you sold pix of your child to pay for...that is up in front of the jury that will decide your fate...attempting to draw a skull of your dead daughter....

and your laughing...hmmmpf

Quiche
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
It's your understanding, uh, wait, it's your understanding that there's a bag, uh, wait...

lishac23
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
Oh yay, Pictionary. I'm good at this game.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Whisperer
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
ICA losing patience. I think she wants to do the cross. Heck, she definitely has more kge on the subject.

Rebound
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
OMG--I suppose JB is drawing this to scale.

Capri
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
I still think Dr G sunk the DT battleship.

I hope so.

Linda7NJ
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
:floorlaugh:coloring fun w/ Jose

wandering
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
The Jury will render a Recommendation for the Judge to consider is how I've always thought it ran?!

http://home.c2i.net/sissel.norway/flori.html There is a federal law that says a judge cannot administer the death penalty without the recommendation of the jury. In other words, only the jury can suggest the DP. The judge, however, can change that DP verdict to Life, or LWOP.

azscr4mbl3r
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
JB counters with his tripod and paper?

I lovingly refer to that as Joe's ME-PAD only because I am certain he cannot operate an I-PAD :loser:

TiaM
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
In all seriousness, does JB, this <unusual person>, NOT realize how ridiculous, amateur and laughable his stick figure drawing on his big rumpled, dirty piece of paper looks next to the professional demonstration the jury just saw? :waitasec:

It is such a clear demonstration to me, and I suspect the jury, of the difference in professionalism and substance of case, between the State and Baez.

EPIC FAIL

He should just sit down at this point. :loser:

JMO

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
Witness is trying not laugh at JB's drawing.

Me too.

Can the jury even see that? They surely can't see that drawing very well.

Peachy Keen
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
I hope the jurors saw that big ol' smile on ICA's face.

shelbar53
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
Not to be outdone by an automated graphic presentation, Baez sets up his easel and large paper.

Good point!!!
Drawing on each page and he baez will flip through it to show animation

Sleuths4Me
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
I so heart JA and his objections

Ssejors
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
I have two Cams on the<modsnip> atm. One is AHEAD of the other. I see her movements in the one and then can REWATCH them in the second one WITH sound so i am catching her Actions a second time with sound and can see WHAT it is that she is reacting to. There is SOMEONE that she is eyeballing. this is new. she WAS NOT looking in that direction earlier today

Whisperer
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
JB and his "drawerings" are just trying to get me banned. Oh DoCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need your etch-e-sketch.

BOLO for Doc Fessel. Boy, does Baez need him..

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
not sure if anyone else can hear baez either, but for benefit of those working and not watching, can someone describe what it is baez is drawing???

16372

Donjeta
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
Casey nods when JB talks about the bag being closeable (is that a word?)

Phoebeb
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
Oh wow. JB is pathetic with his drawing...

sandcastles4me
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
Why is JB fighting so hard on this issue if he is saying ICA is not the one who disposed of her?

QueenD
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
Question of the day:

Baez: When a person is alive generally their hair is on top?
Warren: Correct.

And when the body decomposes in the woods for 6 months wouldn't every thing fall off (down)

Capri
06-10-2011, 04:03 PM
What is JB drawing??

southern_scout
06-10-2011, 04:04 PM
JB should not take up art as a hobby. Good grief.

Sleuth5
06-10-2011, 04:04 PM
Still cool as a cucumber. Guess that ol' pesky skull stuff isn't bothering her anymore. Well, she's so angry that nothing will rattle her now.

Rallihanna
06-10-2011, 04:04 PM
It looks like she wants to stand up and say "I od'd her on chloroform you idiots. The duct tape was there to hold the cloth with the chloroform on it to her mouth." IMO

wenwe4
06-10-2011, 04:04 PM
Michael Warren - assoc. prof @ ....Pound lab is forensic lab....skeletonized, burned, fragmented or unrecognizable.....2 yrs director of POund human id lab.....PhD forensic anthro....post doctoral in pound lab....asst. prof since 8/07 then associate prof ....director in 2009 ....teach and research ......

16 - 18 times expert witness....2 other states Alabama & NY and FL =forensic anthropology.....special interest forensic anthro re:children....doctoral on fetal period liniar growth......involved in Caylee investigation of death...contacted by Dr. G and Schuultz on 12/15/08 - assist in remains...travel to Dist 9 ME office....photos of the remains as they appeared.....mandible in reference to skull when found....mandible was still articulated @ TMJ = in situ in place.......noteworthy - joint is a regular synovial joint articular disc movement of joint as hinge and anterior....on surface ...remains found on surface of the ground very rare find jaw with skull......in above ground deposition jaw was still on the skull....in Boznia and Kosovo decedents had tape over their face.....other than that usually disarticulated from skull (object - withdraw qustio)

nasal aperature - nose ....can you tell when in life the tape was over the nose and mouth/ no tape had moved.....possible single piece of duct tape cover nose and mouth...object overrule - consult literature scientific studies on growing children .....various landmarks on peoples' face......object - sustain.....tell us what you did...estimate ranges? which anical nasal aperature very bottom of nose ...nasal spinality very root of nose, bottom of teeth and airway....estimates of Caylee age.....1 landmark from mid eye to bottom of chin...other method used? video superimpostion....used in forensic anthropoligy.....unknown decedent in lab ....photo of the skull.....photo of person....putative suspected decedent ....take skull also take photo of individual using a comparison method to superimpose using anatomical landmarks ....determine if this is photo of that persons skull....bottom of the teeth....various points on skulll metric analysis....edge of orbits...point of root of nose...top head....contours of skull..... not identification of skull in this case.....tape could have cover ed nose a& mouth? use scale from FBI of skull and tape...superimpose scale same size....scaling is correct.....tape over the skulll....how to determine if face was there...take photo of skull and photo of decedent while alive....1:1 with scale of the tape using the skull....able to do that in this state.....QH - video marked = show how that process ability for tape to cover nose and mouth helps......noted previous objections by DT ....received in evidence as ....

HHBP - instruction to jury - evidence only to illustrate expert opinion - the expert is allowed to give opinion reliable only on subject of expert....you may believe or disbelieve any or all part of testimony.

publish to jury now.....

people look up in gallery ......kc not looking @ screen this time...face held solemn....animation to scale Caylee skull with duct tape over her face....duct tape ..

kc talks to DS .....DS and kc lean into each other......skull of her daughter and duct tape on video.....

kc shakes head while DS talking ....kc looking down...shake head ...scratch nose...arms folded....gallery people look up to monitors....kc continue to look down....DS talking to kc kc responds with a few words...not cover mouth....DS talks kc nods one or 2 word answers....leans into DS shoulder turns head and talks....DS leans in....kc open mouth breathe...shake head...kc shake head back forth...wipes mouth..


JA asks why tape goes up and down to show where tape could possibly go....tape is suffiecient to cover nose and mouth and make breathing impossible.....no further questions....


Cross...

JB up - kc holding firm jaw looking down and away over to CM and getting paper prepared to take up to easel...Jb ...

soft voice ...good afternoon...you never saw...hired early in this case? consulted early in teh case....never saw duct tape attached to hair mat...strands of hair adhering.....photo ....quicktime movie from photoshop....design movies? don't know....give you very precise scale...image is the image....photo is from the internet....don't know how old Caylee was when photo taken....possible this could have occurred....possible it could covered nose and mouth....not testify that actually happened....posibble not...form of speculation? form of demonstration....speculation since don't know? right....can't testify duct tape anything to do with death.....associated with Caylee after death....don't know if duct tape had to do with disposal or death......JB draw a model ...see if agree...CAylee found on surface...below surface was hairmat? abve surface hair mat....above is mandible and then skulll on top.....hair generally on top.....duct tape found across front attached to the hair.....

jb draws on large paper.....scull!!! (his spelling not mine)

hair generally up here? turn for everyone to see....witness cannot...witness stand down...duct tape attached to her hair...observing photos....understanding based on consult and evidence @ scene @ one time her skull inside 3 bags....object -speculation hearsay....rephrase qustion....form opinions info her remains were in 3 bags at one time...understanding...canvas bag...only photos...shape round cylindar shape....photos saw not able to determine...don't recall handles....able to close bag? only saw photos...don't know if bag closeable...wrap Caylee remains or duct tape was in anatomical (object- compound argumentative assumes facts- rephrase)

over mandible and some portion ....attached to hair....mandible articlated with skull attached.....no way hair got under neath all this to explain....assumes facts not inevidence - JA can exlain - appraoch

stilettos
06-10-2011, 04:04 PM
Casey has a look as though WTH is Jose doing now.

Well I have that look too....I mean can anyone make any sense of the carp he has drawn???

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 04:04 PM
JB sucks at Pictionary. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3817/drawingk.png

Good lord that's worse than I even thought!

Maybe JB is trying out for a gig as a tv game show host? Wants to get Pictionary back on the air?

Pooh
06-10-2011, 04:04 PM
I had to leave for a while for a meeting - did JP allow the animation in?? Has it been done yet if he allowed it in?

jane the dood
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
Not sure if anyone else can hear Baez either, but for benefit of those working and not watching, can someone describe what it is Baez is drawing???


It's his version of a skull. Lol worthy.

QueenD
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
What is JB drawing??

We are trying to figure that out.

Cubby
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
Baez is trying so hard to discredit the fact that the duct tape was placed over Caylees mouth and get someone to say that it was only affixed to her hair. Who is he trying to fool? Does he REALLY think a few strands of hair would hold the mandible in place?

Dude chose the wrong career.

JMO

cloud9
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
What does JB's last question implying?

shezcrafti
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
JB sucks at Pictionary. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3817/drawingk.png

JB also does not know how to spell mandible.

(Lol, yes I just quoted my own post.)

LyndyLoo
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
Ohhh dear..is JB trying to suggest that the duct tape was not applied to Caylee face ( even tho jury has already seen pictures of total wrap around) but used to tape the bag up and somehow floated into the position???? Yikes :rocker:

MidAtlanticNative
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
Baez just doesn't know when to leave well enough alone. He got Warren to confirm that the video was one "possibility" and simply "speculation".

Why not end there? Why muddy the water? It's infuriating!

(He talks, talks, talks - yet says nothing. Just like his client...)

KMouse
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
Is JB drawing this to scale?:waitasec:

JB argues that the video may not necessarily be to scale since the photo was taken off the internet...yet...

JB gets out his handy dandy giant pad of paper and draws what appears to be a baked potato on plate according to a previous poster with his sharpie pen. Rut roh?

GiantPickle
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
:floorlaugh: it says manible ...not mandible ....

Capri
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
Good point!!!
Drawing on each page and he baez will flip through it to show animation

Is JB making a flip book?

Snaz
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
Single piece of tape was enough to cover the nose and the mouth.
Game point!

But weren't there THREE pieces of duct tape over the mouth area? Do you think Ashton is waiting to bring that point home in re-direct?

KathrynL
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
How can KC look so bored and put out at her murder trial? Not saying I prefer the faux emotion, but I can't get my head around the times she looks bored and impatient.

Sun
06-10-2011, 04:05 PM
An artist, Baez is not.

Tipstaff
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
Stop JB you are making it worse for your client. Throw in the towel on this one. The one drawing looks like mickey mouse. Horrible awful for JB to continue this.

grandmaj
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
Jose Baez trying to testify again. I think if we are going to hear testimony the defendant should take the stand and tell the jury what happened.

Peachy Keen
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
He needs "spell check" for his easel!

kcsmom76
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
I have two Cams on the MURDERER atm. One is AHEAD of the other. I see her movements in the one and then can REWATCH them in the second one WITH sound so i am catching her Actions a second time with sound and can see WHAT it is that she is reacting to. There is SOMEONE that she is eyeballing. this is new. she WAS NOT looking in that direction earlier today

Please share the links to these two cameras. I wanna see too! :crazy:

southern_scout
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
So isn't their going to be skin cell matter on the duct tape that wouldn't be there if it was used to seal the laundry bag?

Linda7NJ
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
Jose just drew a pic for the judge awwwwwwww:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Mountain_Kat
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
He could be! I'm just having trouble paying attention to what he's trying to get at, while laughing at his bloopers!

As usual, he starts off strong by getting the witness to state that the duct tape over the nose is just a possiblility, not a fact. So far, so good (from DT perspective). But then out comes the easel, asking the witness to testify to things he has no way of knowing, then wanders to try to clean up that mess and voila! Charlie Brown's parents are talking.

It's comical how predictible he is. They should have kept CM up there, imo.

everyoneneedsavoice
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
She is glaring VERY OBVIOUSLY at someone. She looks to her RIGHT to watch JB and the wtiness but there is someone or something that she is GLARING at that is a little to the left and more central in the court room. As she glares.. her jaw juts out

WOW...We have to figure out who this is?????

Is there media in that direction?

stilettos
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
JB also does not know how to spell mandible.

(Lol, yes I just quoted my own post.)

:floorlaugh:

grammieto5
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
when this baby Caylee was murdered her hair was at least to her shoulders. the hair could have "gotten in the way" of the three pieces of tape placed on her face

Quiche
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
How mortifying, Baez. Please...

Solomisskitty
06-10-2011, 04:06 PM
Good point!!!
Drawing on each page and he baez will flip through it to show animation

Thank you for the needed comic relief! I can just see him doing that!
:floorlaugh:

kcsmom76
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
Stop JB you are making it worse for your client. Throw in the towel on this one. The one drawing looks like mickey mouse. Horrible awful for JB to continue this.

I think the bottom drawing looks like a jailhouse toilet!!

countzero
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
That sidebar shut JB down quickly.

jane the dood
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
Good point!!!
Drawing on each page and he baez will flip through it to show animation


:floorlaugh: (Very) low tech animation!

momtective
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
ICA just gave a half smirk and said "oh well..." to CM

Sleuths4Me
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
JB also does not know how to spell mandible.

(Lol, yes I just quoted my own post.)


Looks kind of like this

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=86&u=13266201

QueenD
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
But weren't there THREE pieces of duct tape over the mouth area? Do you think Ashton is waiting to bring that point home in re-direct?

Yes, one would have covered her face but that wasn't enough for ICA.

Agrivating factor

alwaysonmymind
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
Baez's easel o' white paper is really embarassing for him. Everyone else is at least in the 20th century and here he is with an easel, misspelled words and what not. NICE.

......and completely appropriate to defend ICA. Just who she deserves.

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
16373

southern_scout
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
*there

And the same guy who wants to argue about how photoshop is used thinks that excellent drawing is somehow better/more precise?

els
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
Please share the links to these two cameras. I wanna see too! :crazy:

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

this has two


How can KC look so bored and put out at her murder trial? Not saying I prefer the faux emotion, but I can't get my head around the times she looks bored and impatient.

She did a LOL when the witness said he couldnt see so she isnt that angry :)

wandering
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
Can someone tell me if GA and CA are in the courtroom today?No, they are not.

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
OMG...JB actually just objected to objections.

stilettos
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
:floorlaugh: it says manible ...not mandible ....

If it were not so serious being about Caylee...it would be comical to watch the DT at this trial...bumbling they are.

Camille
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
Well I have that look too....I mean can anyone make any sense of the carp he has drawn???


Yeah so did I but it made me LOL to see Casey giving that look to her own defense attorney.

Donjeta
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
So, we now know that hair is generally on top.

Put duct tape on someone's hair, on the top.

How is that gonna keep their lower jaw in place when the soft tissue decomposes?

gelfie68
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
Did he just object to the objection?

kantoo
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
Ohhh dear..is JB trying to suggest that the duct tape was not applied to Caylee face ( even tho jury has already seen pictures of total wrap around) but used to tape the bag up and somehow floated into the position???? Yikes :rocker:

...and everyone should be thinking WHY was there duct tape anywhere on this baby

Tipstaff
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
I had to leave for a while for a meeting - did JP allow the animation in?? Has it been done yet if he allowed it in?

Yes to both. We didn't get to see it but the spectators didn't appear comfortable by what they were seeing.

nursebeeme
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
remember NO NAME CALLING. Please refer to the opening posts

KMouse
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
Why is JB fighting so hard on this issue if he is saying ICA is not the one who disposed of her?

That's what the jury should be wondering.

NavySubMom
06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
Baez just doesn't know when to leave well enough alone. He got Warren to confirm that the video was one "possibility" and simply "speculation".

Why not end there? Why muddy the water? It's infuriating!

Agreed, this is when he usually does his worst, when he can't leave something alone. The judge read his stipulation, and this witness already said a few times it is speculation, it could or could NOT have happened this way. He may just go too far, once again, and prove the Pros. case, once again.

stilettos
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
WTH JB you can't do that!

wenwe4
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
JB up - no sound

surface slightly above was the mandible ....based upon photos...hair under the skull...mat under the skull on the floor...something made it roll or put in that position.....toward the surface - correct.....

Warren w/JB - video of possible duct tape position ....graphic ....appeal to jury emotions asked Mr. ashton to do that? object - approach!

cityslick
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
Animation wasn't as graphic as I had feared. I'd say it was borderline effective. Jurors did appear too moved by it #fox35 #caseyanthony

costalpilot
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
I have two Cams on the MURDERER atm. One is AHEAD of the other. I see her movements in the one and then can REWATCH them in the second one WITH sound so i am catching her Actions a second time with sound and can see WHAT it is that she is reacting to. There is SOMEONE that she is eyeballing. this is new. she WAS NOT looking in that direction earlier today

perfect. someone is pizzing off ica with their stare

and she is more concerned with that

than her trial

imagine that!

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
Is JB making a flip book?

JB is making a FOOL of himself is what he's doing.

technicalconfusion
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
Looks kind of like this

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=86&u=13266201

:floorlaugh:

ahoyhoy
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
They need to censure JB! OMG! How dare he? Contempt of court!

TortillaChip
06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
I have two Cams on the MURDERER atm. One is AHEAD of the other. I see her movements in the one and then can REWATCH them in the second one WITH sound so i am catching her Actions a second time with sound and can see WHAT it is that she is reacting to. There is SOMEONE that she is eyeballing. this is new. she WAS NOT looking in that direction earlier today

Yeah I noticed that too, do you think it may be a juror?

gitana1
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
I had to leave for a while for a meeting - did JP allow the animation in?? Has it been done yet if he allowed it in?

It was allowed and the jury viewed it. Spectators seemed very uncomfortable watching it. We could not see it.

Aedrys
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
Ohhh dear..is JB trying to suggest that the duct tape was not applied to Caylee face ( even tho jury has already seen pictures of total wrap around) but used to tape the bag up and somehow floated into the position???? Yikes :rocker:

BBM. OMG. Someone brought that up on here at one time!!!! I cannot BELIEVE he is trying to suggest that!!!! Wow, he really is not that smart!

Talk about throwing all logic out the door!!!! Unbelievable!!!

Carolina Girl
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
WOW...We have to figure out who this is?????

Is there media in that direction?

I think the only people in front of her, where she is staring is the JURY! Surely she is not looking so evil to a member of the JURY!!!

Emeralgem
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
JB sucks at Pictionary. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3817/drawingk.png

He can't spell worth a flip either..

Note to Jose.. The correct spelling is.... M A N D I B L E

costalpilot
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
Animation wasn't as graphic as I had feared. I'd say it was borderline effective. Jurors did appear too moved by it #fox35 #caseyanthony

makes no sense

Blondieskatz
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
Hey guys, I have posted in a while, but I have a question. Why do they keep referring to one piece of duct tape? Wasn't there three pieces?

21merc7
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
I cannot tell what is on the Big Easel, fortunately I missed the art class. It looks like a child had fun and was told to stop before finished.

wenwe4
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
I am NOT going to make fun of JB's spelling errors as I have committed way to many today! Sorry - just needed to keep up - you have to decipher the rest!

mitzi
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
JB also does not know how to spell mandible.

(Lol, yes I just quoted my own post.)

It's a manible! hahaha! It's what JB takes with him to church on Sunday...
man-bible....the "b" (real important now, JB-see the quotes) is silent!

Oakley
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
According to JimLichtenstein: When the animation played earlier on the lawyers laptops,the whole thing didn't play. It was just the beginning like a test. #caseyanthony

Is that true? It appeared to be the entire video based on the amount of time that elapsed.

Jim L has his own agenda so take what he says with a grain of salt. He's also pretty arrogant, IMO

Phoebeb
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
Stop JB you are making it worse for your client. Throw in the towel on this one. The one drawing looks like mickey mouse. Horrible awful for JB to continue this.

And his drawing of the bag looks like a commode...IMO :loser:

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
FG and LDB looking at a laptop screen & seeming a little amused.

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
Jose Baez trying to testify again. I think if we are going to hear testimony the defendant should take the stand and tell the jury what happened.

I wish someone would stop him from testifying!

christee
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
"Manible" on JBs drawwwring

TiaM
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
LDB and FG laughing behind their hands at JB's drawing. I bet they are trying to figure out how to abscam with that sheet tonight to put up in their conference room when they need a good laugh.

Blue Ridge
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
JB sucks at Pictionary. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3817/drawingk.png

Priceless.


:D

Donjeta
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
I think the judge should object to JB asking the witness, "it is graphic, is it not? Was it to appeal to the jury's emotions?" when the judge just ruled that it's not too graphic and it's not particularly going to appeal to the jury's emotions.

Pooh
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
Yes to both. We didn't get to see it but the spectators didn't appear comfortable by what they were seeing.

Thanks Tipstaff!!!

1tasha
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
JB sucks at Pictionary. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3817/drawingk.png

This just made me gasp out loud. Oh that's bad! What?? Manible?

Cubby
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
I can't decide whose theatrics are worse, ICA's or JB's.

Solomisskitty
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
Looks kind of like this

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=86&u=13266201

Oh you're bad (compliment).....and FUNNY!!

Softail
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
Again.... JB took the time to file a motion about the "Jib-jab" video. But not the one this afternoon. :rolleyes:

sleutherontheside
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
For a moment of levity......does JB's picture not look like he drew a tinfoil hat?

16374

grammieto5
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
I really do not understand why JB keeps on about the hair????

Drama Queen
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
heaven help us, JB has FOUR colours of sharpie.

I will bet they are the kind that smell like fruit.

MissJames
06-10-2011, 04:11 PM
*there

And the same guy who wants to argue about how photoshop is used thinks that excellent drawing is somehow better/more precise?

:highfive:

logicalgirl
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
JB is making some important points here!

Well he would be...

If the skull was always like that and never did have any tissue on it.

Sigh, about as much logic as his drawing....

GiantPickle
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
How can KC look so bored and put out at her murder trial? Not saying I prefer the faux emotion, but I can't get my head around the times she looks bored and impatient.

i prefer her like this when it comes to her guilt...i think it makes her actually look like a human being (which could help her get LWOP instead of the DP) - she's angry and I think it is appropriate...since she's so freakin' caught !!!

Themis
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Have they presented evidence on the heart shaped sticker yet?

KenoshaKid
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
So isn't their going to be skin cell matter on the duct tape that wouldn't be there if it was used to seal the laundry bag?

It was too rotten, they couldn't find any.

smart blonde
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Sorry, but Baez' cross examination is pointless.

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Jury being asked to step out. Uh oh.

Capri
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Well I have that look too....I mean can anyone make any sense of the carp he has drawn???

Seriously, can anyone with video tell us what the heck he is doing? Drawing a skull ...for what purpose?

momtective
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Is JB making a flip book?

If he is...I would look for these drawing to appear on ebay in the future...man's gotta eat ya know and his career as an attoeny is finished. :floorlaugh:

shezcrafti
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
This DT needs some Benny Hill music, IMO.

Rebound
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
He needs "spell check" for his easel!

Easel tablets come with an autocorrect app, right?

adb263
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
In all serious...I swear not being mean!!! But WHERE did all the money go!! JB cant even afford to have proper exhibits!! Please...with the big pad of pictionary paper!!

Pooh
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
LOL - those jurors are sure getting their exercise from this case! In and out - in and out!

jojomonkey
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Out of frustration I have to say this - WHY are they so concerned with the placement of duct tape, or how many pieces, etc. WHY are they so worried about his if, by their defense, George and Roy Kronk did something with Caylee's body?

Don't they see by trying to discredit the duct tape evidence they are contradicting their own defense? If Casey did nothing wrong, then why are they focusing on it?

Softail
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Poor jury! Pop-tarts today!

Mountain_Kat
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
He can't spell worth a flip either..

Note to Jose.. The correct spelling is.... M A N D I B L E

Makes me think of that pictionary scene from When Harry Met Sally. Sally trying to draw "baby talk". Bruno Kirby yelling out, "Baby fishmouth!!"

greycoupon
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Is the markers and stick people possibly to distract the jury? I'm trying to figure out why on earth he would use doodles on an easel, especially right after a high tech presentation from SA. It certainly was distracting to me.

Linda7NJ
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
good grief....here we go again.:fence:

suzihawk
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
Baez just doesn't know when to leave well enough alone. He got Warren to confirm that the video was one "possibility" and simply "speculation".

Why not end there? Why muddy the water? It's infuriating!

(He talks, talks, talks - yet says nothing. Just like his client...)

Baez doesn't understand the less is more concept. It's just one of many of his failures. He might actually make a point or two on occasion, but then ends up completely confusing the issue. One step forward, three back...

Mendara
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
They need to censure JB! OMG! How dare he? Contempt of court!

i missed it what did he say?

Bobbarita
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
JB illustrations are a real "Dog and Pony" show...

Oakley
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
Was HHJP just laughing or crying?

texaslb218
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
I had to leave at the start of Dr. G. recross. Was CM able to make any inroads or did she do her usual great presentation. Could you let me know if the recross went fine for the SA?

illinoismom
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
OMG don't let him draw on that easel thingy------- that's so scientific, Baez!!!

Could we consider this "junk science":waitasec:

mitzi
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
Gee, while JB is making Poptarts, I'll have a blueberry one. :)

Marple
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
I don't understand the hair mat being on the floor comments by JB.

Niner
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
doesn't even look at the jury as it leaves for pro-offer...

Kentjbkent
06-10-2011, 04:13 PM
bbm. Omg. someone brought that up on here at one time!!!! i cannot believe he is trying to suggest that!!!! Wow, he really is not that smart!

Talk about throwing all logic out the door!!!! Unbelievable!!!

i remember that!!!!

grandmaj
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
How insulting to talk to a Doctor of Science like he is a 2 year old.

newsjunkie
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
FG and LDB looking at a laptop screen & seeming a little amused.

Was it during the side bar? I think they are still getting the real time from the court reporter. I think that is what ICA is intently looking at during side bar, as well.

21merc7
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Witness getting mad, takes pride in his work and interested in it.

Pattymarie
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Wow...I am sure getting a lot of crocheting done!

wenwe4
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
not done to get jury angry or upset? NO! check to see if jury ready to come back in....5 min break - start @ 20 min past....kc out door

ahoyhoy
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
EXACTLY! Do this AWAY from the jury! I love Belvin Perry! Yay!

momtective
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Anyone catch ICA's little eyebrow raise? I got the last 2 seconds of it.
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/11aa.jpg

Wholehearted
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Why did JB just ask that series of questions? It sounded like something the SA would ask.

AvalonBlue
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Whoa! Love how Dr. Warren says "No" to JB's questions about possible"sensationalism" during the proffer.

Mamabear1963
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
That last bit by JB was like 20 questions

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Five minute break and ICA is up and out of the court room in a flash.

MissDiva
06-10-2011, 04:14 PM
I'm glad they decided on a five minute break, because I would be pizzed if I were part of the jury and asked to step out for 30 seconds.

frrlk
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Sorry, is there court tomorrow?

21merc7
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Judge P chuckled slightly

Carolina Girl
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
I had to leave at the start of Dr. G. recross. Was CM able to make any inroads or did she do her usual great presentation. Could you let me know if the recross went fine for the SA?

Dr. G ate CM up and spit him out!!!!!!!!!!!

Camille
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Casey just got up and left the courtroom. When she got to the other side of the door she was about to throw a fit as the door was closing.

Linda7NJ
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Pop Tart jury...Judge aint going to like it, bet he regrets teaching Jose all about Proffers:floorlaugh:

camcneishg
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
I LOVE that ICA has to ask "can I go to the bathroom"....LOL

cloud9
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Dr. Warren to JB's jury questions:

"No! No! No!"

:great::great::great:

GiantPickle
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
ica has too much freedom to scoot around the courtroom. while she is innocent until proven guilty in THIS case...she is still a convict from her other infractions.

Marple
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Nothing surprises me but I gasped when JB asked if the video was shown to appeal to the jury's emotions. Objection, of course. Good grief. I learned more watching Night Court than listening to JB.

wandering
06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Does Baez really think his big pad of paper will outshine that video?He should give it up already. KC should throw herself on the mercy of the court.

stilettos
06-10-2011, 04:16 PM
I had to leave at the start of Dr. G. recross. Was CM able to make any inroads or did she do her usual great presentation. Could you let me know if the recross went fine for the SA?

Oh no Dr G slammed the door on the DT and ICA's cell and wiped the floor with CM. :great:

PassTheMotrin
06-10-2011, 04:16 PM
Boy, when she hit that door, she was mad as heck.

NocturnalLady
06-10-2011, 04:16 PM
Whoa! Love how Dr. Warren says "No" to JB's questions about possible"sensationalism" during the proffer.

Love that too. I think it's okay to sound a wee bit insulted when someone rudely questions your integrity.

Drama Queen
06-10-2011, 04:16 PM
The jury has got to be feeling like toaster strudel. Pop in...pop out..pop up...pop down...

Girlrilla
06-10-2011, 04:16 PM
Looks kind of like this

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=86&u=13266201

:floorlaugh:

GiantPickle
06-10-2011, 04:16 PM
Seriously, can anyone with video tell us what the heck he is doing? Drawing a skull ...for what purpose?

in my estimation he was trying to show that the head slid down in the bag that was rounded at the bottom and it would have made the duct tape go "round" the head because of the shape of the bag, not by any one's actions.

Lovejac
06-10-2011, 04:16 PM
JB is making some important points here!

Well he would be...

If the skull was always like that and never did have any tissue on it.

Sigh, about as much logic as his drawing....

the only important point that Jose has right now is on that sharpie

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: