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Stella5
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
JA: You have admitted you've never had experience with a decomposing skeleton is that correct? DB: Yes, grimace, eyes rolled up, throat tighetened as in crap, I just messed up for the DT!

Score for the SA!

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
#CaseyAnthony Bock says she's never studied root growth around a skeleton.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 9:02 AM

#caseyanthony Prosec asks botanist if root growth thru skull, bones and laundry bag could have happened in 2 weeks??she says "yes"
by abcashleigh via twitter at 9:01 AM

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
Whoa. Now she sounds kinda stern.

Hamsterdance
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
Dr. Bock is getting feisty

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
Dr. Boch currently being impeached.

Liz
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
Dr. Bock can pump up the volume when she wants to eh?

pjmale
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
She appears to having trouble remembering her lines.

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 10:03 AM
Why do I have the Murder, She Wrote theme in my head? I'm serious here.

Stop laughing at me.

:floorlaugh: she resembles Angela Lansbury...good one...:great:

Ahhhhh a little levity :truce:

barrysgirl
06-21-2011, 10:04 AM
Wait a minute!!! you cannot bust the mock juror...we will need to have a special hearing

Can we please not schedule it at the lunch break though? Don't forget, I have to make my boy's lunches and i'm STILL trying to watch the end of the darn james Ray Trial closings.

Would 5pm be ok with yall?

sleutherontheside
06-21-2011, 10:04 AM
The DT can now add "bocked" to the list of terms.

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:04 AM
Dr. Bock's smirky smile starting to turn me off. And I liked her too. :(

tehcloser
06-21-2011, 10:04 AM
Oh GREAT, rain, hail and winds in excess of 70 mph........say a prayer for my cable!!!!!!!

pipkins
06-21-2011, 10:04 AM
the roots grown through bones that she HAS seen was in a 10yr old skeleton

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:04 AM
Ashton now asking Bock about apparent discrepancy whether she actually examined plant roots growing through bone.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:03 AM

Beyond Belief
06-21-2011, 10:04 AM
this testimony feels weak........

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
I just calmed down and thought of it?....:waitasec:

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Dr. Bock's smirky smile starting to turn me off. And I liked her too. :(

Oh darn, I agree. :(

sleutherontheside
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Dr. Boch currently being impeached.

Do "impeaches" grow on trees or vines?

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
She is getting testy. Love it.

momtective
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
If Dr. Bock believes that roots could grow into that laundry bag and up through those bones in only two weeks.... I cannot give her testimony any credit at all. Anyone who gardens knows that plants just do not grow that fast. You don't have to be a botanist to know that it takes time for plants and plant roots to grow. :doh:

This past school year my kindergardener's planted beans...it took over two weeks for them to begin to break the soil.

cityslick
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Making yourself available as an expert witness to defend a child killer is a pathetic way to make a living. IMO she is despicable.

I disagree, she's made herself available period, whether the state or the defense retains her services.

Jomo
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
I'm happy JA is pointing out that she has changed her testimony from the deposition. I think that even the jury is going to begin to notice the changes in stories of the DT witnesses.

I don't like this Dr. Bock and her looks she is giving JA and the tone she takes with JA when recalling the deposition. It is clear that she is personally upset with JA.

Sleuths4Me
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
she is getting testy at JA...

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Juror 11 rocking in his chair and now looks amused.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:05 AM

sleutherontheside
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Dr. Bock DOES NOT enjoy being impeached.

Eidetic
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
This witnesses demeanor is kind of irritating me. I get the feeling she is not as nice and sweet as people are giving her credit for, jmho.

pipkins
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Twitter
KBelichWFTV:
Jury perked up during cross examination by Ashton.. Challenging her opinions [via Twitter]

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
The DT should scramble to find all the elderly female experts they can find. That is about the only way they can take him down a notch.

HMO, but he doesn't need to be taken down a notch. This is for real. It is not a game.

Not directed at you, but just wanted to say JA is very passionate and it shows in his questioning. It is as it should be. At least he doesn't resort to tactics that draw contempt proceedings hanging over his head.

jmfstl
06-21-2011, 10:05 AM
When JA is done with Dr Bock she will agree the body was there for at least six months IMO

TraceyLeigh
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
ICA back to the Thinker pose... *eye roll*

pcrum12
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
I like this witness so far. She seems very well informed and professional.

Liz
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
I didn't hear this myself. Just posting what Ashleigh Banfield (who imo is very pro prosecution, although she tries hard to pretend she is unbiased).

ABCAshleigh

#caseyanthony Prosec asks botanist if root growth thru skull, bones and laundry bag could have happened in 2 weeks??she says "yes"
2 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Did anyone here hear this?

adb263
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Dr. Bock is smiling at Jury as if to say JA is so silly!! She is becoming a little pompous now!! Not liking her as much now.. JMO

HotButteredGrits
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
State is probably on the phone arranging for additional botanist to testify during rebuttal. This will get settled either today OR on rebuttal.

Nore
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Do we seriously need somebody telling us what "leaf litter" is????????????????????

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May I please ask where do they find their experts? Isnt this the lady who learned a lot from her grandparents yard in Florida while studying turtles?

mysticrose
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Casey looking away from photos being shown, gmab

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Message to KC: I am just as over this as you and I can't wait for this trial to be over and you are forgotten.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Ashton pulls up photo with Caylee's skull. People in audience let out a small sigh. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:05 AM

Linda7NJ
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Do "impeaches" grow on trees or vines?

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Making yourself available as an expert witness to defend a child killer is a pathetic way to make a living. IMO she is despicable.

Thank you!

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
ICA takes thinker position as Caylee's skull is being shown...can she come off as any more guilty????

nachomama
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Oh GREAT, rain, hail and winds in excess of 70 mph........say a prayer for my cable!!!!!!!

The heck with the cable.. I'll say a prayer for you and yours to be safe !!

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
OMG Bock looking at a pic of the skull: "I see one leaf on the bones".

I need more coffee for this.

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
It is generally a safe strategy to never entirely trust someone who smiles all the time in my experience.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:06 AM
Cindy and George Anthony both look down as this photo is projected in courtroom. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:06 AM

QueenD
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
Oh GREAT, rain, hail and winds in excess of 70 mph........say a prayer for my cable!!!!!!!

Send it my way, we are burning up here.

She reminds me of the good Dr. tertimony saturday. When she gets challenged she gets luod.

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
What made Casey have to look down?

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
You're losing me, Dr. Bock. I'm trying to give you a fair shake here, but your answers now seem nonsensical.

Marina2
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
She seems to be getting more evasive and combative.

adb263
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
ICA back to the Thinker pose... *eye roll*

Maybe she is thinking 'WTH have my lawyers been doing for 3 yrs'!!!!!!

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
Haunting photo of half buried skull. No one smiling now. Mood changed quickly. Point is-this buried skull there 2wweks?
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:06 AM

shellsbells
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
That train seems to go by at just the right times.

The Farm
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
Someone please tell me what this Bock woman is doing on the stand?????

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
I just calmed down and thought of it?....:waitasec:

Apparently JA asking questions makes her un-calm.

21merc7
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
KC back to thinker pose

Serjen
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
I don't blame JA for getting frustrated with these witnesses when they clearly keep trying to run circles without actually answering. They are well versed by JB to not give SA an inch, and look like liars in the meantime.

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?

Liz
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
Bock: There are other considerations in this picture.
Ashton: If you would just direct your consideration to my question.

lol

Celt1997
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
What made Casey have to look down?

Showing skull photos, again.

Disguiseduser0308
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
I expected more research on the plants & trees indigenous to the area by this witness. I expected she would be able to testify her opinion as to what plant these roots growing through our baby girl came from.

I'll agree Dr. Bach has been one of the better DT witnesses. However, I'm not impressed that she didn't seem to do her homework. I would expect a botanist to tell me what plants are there and their growth cycle for roots. Including but not limited to weather conditions that may have affected said growth.

countzero
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Hey Dorothy, we're not ignoring ICA. We can all see her "thinker" pose. Dr Bock is more entertaining at the moment. We'll get back with you shortly.

miabellamoure
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Dr Bock has a hard time telling the obvious truth...

SillyJilly
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
OOO getting a little bit snippy when questioned. IMO

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Jury perked up during cross examination by Ashton.. Challenging her opinions
2 minutes ago

robotdog
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
i dont like her one bit. :(

jamiect
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
The next photo is the skull at medical Examiners office. 3 or 4 female jurors are studying photo. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 10:08 AM

downport
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Bock seems to be an extremely sweet & nice woman but in a situation way above her pay scale. She seems terribly uncomfortable & unsure in her testimony & IMO seems somewhat confused.
JA is being very gentle in his cross which is a good thing. She just seems too fragile to attact with both barrels blazing.

TortillaChip
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
When JA is done with Dr Bock she will agree the body was there for at least six months IMO

I really hope so, but she seems to kinda stubborn with her opinion, and on the defensive.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Dr. Bock will not waver from her two weeks.

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
I do lot's of landscaping in my yard (Florida) and I seriously doubt that you could get root growth like that in December here even if the conditions are such that it promotes quick growth, but I will concede that it "might" be possible and I guess that's all the DT needs to get out of Dr. Bock for the jury to hear.

TraceyLeigh
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Bock: There are other considerations in this picture.
Ashton: If you would just direct your consideration to my question.

lol

:crazy::crazy:

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
The next photo is the skull at medical Examiners office. 3 or 4 female jurors are studying photo. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:08 AM

Ashton points out leaf litter and asks "This would only take 2 weeks to collect?" #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:07 AM

Patience
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Why would there be leaves from the scene in the trunk of KCs trunk? She took the body from the trunk and dumped it in the field, not vice versa. She didn't bring leaves back to her trunk. Whats the purpose of this testimony? Can't wait til Ashton gets a hold of this witness. She sounds ridiculous to me.

If Camphor leaves were in the trunk then how interesting is it that Camphor is also an insect repellant? :waitasec:

http://forums.mycotopia.net/874898-post44.html

Camphor is also a insect repellent and a flea-killing substance...

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Twitter
KBelichWFTV:
Jury perked up during cross examination by Ashton.. Challenging her opinions [via Twitter]

that tells me the jury is listening intently to the state and has turned off the DT...hoping it's a good sign for conviction..

Sleuths4Me
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
Is she a chemist?:crazy:

passionflower
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
In the words of infamous ICA "a waste, a HUGE waste!"

BigFatMommyDog
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
Great I have banjo music and an Asian woman speaking on Fox - Why not.

Eidetic
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
A woman in the gallery just looked disgusted at the photo of Caylee's untouched skull. She looked down and away from the screen then around the room taking a deep breath looking to see if others were as shocked as she was at what they were observing.

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?
Yes, she is paid

'nuff said?

PaperTigers
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
I'm happy JA is pointing out that she has changed her testimony from the deposition. I think that even the jury is going to begin to notice the changes in stories of the DT witnesses.

I don't like this Dr. Bock and her looks she is giving JA and the tone she takes with JA when recalling the deposition. It is clear that she is personally upset with JA.

Whether she's being purposely untruthful or not... it's a difficult position to be in sitting in the "hot seat" being relentlessly grilled by a character like JA. Anyone would get defensive! I'm sure that she has never been talked to like that ... probably ever, by anybody! She's used to being in a position of authority as a professor...

laserdisc10
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
She seems to be getting more evasive and combative.

for sure

glad the jury's here for once and is hearing and seeing her

debloree
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
Looking at pics of the skull & ICA

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
OMG...answer the question, Dr. Bock!

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
prosec is showing court Caylees skull at the scene. Casey turns away from her monitor. George and cindy also looking down
by abcashleigh via twitter at 9:09 AM

Harmony2
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
WFTV analyst just pointed out that the Defense's own entomolgoist previously testified that the remains had been placed in late June/early July ... in effect, two defense experts with two different opinions. Says that is odd way to present this info.

Did Dr Hall testify? I missed it... :waitasec:

shellsbells
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
The Dr. took a really long pause before answering when JA asked her to reiterate that her opinion is that the leaves could have occurred in 2 weeks. Personally, it looks like she's thinking really hard about how to frame her answer correctly, and I don't think people telling the honest truth do that. :cow:

passionflower
06-21-2011, 10:09 AM
I did read, but do not understand ................come on Ms. Boch!!!!

Liz
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
KBelichWFTV

Jury perked up during cross examination by Ashton.. Challenging her opinions
3 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Ashton is terrific at cross!

Stella5
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Who's wondering now if the DT carefully selected the pictures of the remains site to show Dr. Bock to elicit her testimony? I'm beginning to think she's been set up & used.

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?

A new turtle.

Celt1997
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Bock: There are other considerations in this picture.
Ashton: If you would just direct your consideration to my question.

lol

I understand what JA is getting at, and I agree with him that the body was there for a long time, but he is being very narrow about these trees & plants. There really are a ton of reasons why plants will give up leaves, and it is possible for variances to occur, and situations where leaf debris would pile up in 2 weeks (and feature varying colors).

kathyn2
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
How come the prosecution never put on a botanist? I don't see Ashton make much headway with this witness altho she doesn't look very believable to me.

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
She seems to be getting more evasive and combative.
And she started out to be the best defense witness so far, then like all the witnesses before her, JA dismantles her testimony bit by bit, IMO. We'll see if the defense can rehab her.

robotdog
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
she likes to add in her tidbits of comments when being asked a SIMPLE QUESTION

sorrell skye
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Dr. Bock's manner of speaking reminds me of Chance the gardener in the movie "Being There".

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Dr. Bock now claimed that the green leaves on the brown leaves is because one of the trees is releasing green leaves because of some lacking chemical. Even the trees are trying to frame KC.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
#CaseyAnthony also continues to look down and not at monitors showing skull #CaseyAnthony #CayleeAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:10 AM

#CaseyAnthony All of the Anthonys averting their eyes from skull photos as Ashton grills Dr. Bock.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:10 AM

#CaseyAnthony With skull photo up, Casey turns and rest her chin on her fist, eyes closed. George and Cindy are looking down too
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 9:09 AM

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Deep leaf litter from 2 weeks? Alrighty then, Dr. Bock.

STEADFAST
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
At that rate of leaf litter accumulation, I'm surprised the leaf piles aren't above people's heads.

pipkins
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
...she's not so sweet anymore.

mydailyopinions
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
I wonder if the defense team has completely forgotten that these jurors live in Florida and more than likely understand the vegetation down there? :waitasec:

Steely Dan
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Dr. Bock seems to be trying to avoid answers she knows will hurt the defense rather than answering all questions directly.

USARDOG
06-21-2011, 10:10 AM
ICA doing her best, "Oh I just can't bear to look at those photo's."

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
Bock says some of the vegetation around skull could have come from fallen leaves. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:10 AM

azscr4mbl3r
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
JA asks do you see the leaves up to the area of just below the eye level... No that could be humus ..like decomposed leaves ... so if I understand this in 2 weeks in winter plants grew and leaves decomposed and covered half the skull? things move fast in FL

miabellamoure
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?
bbm
It's what I classify as cantankerous...just like my dear Mom...just can't imagine being wrong about anything as it might be an indication of a failing mind...and will even fib when she has to...

Reality Orlando
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
Oh please! Roots grow there in 2 weeks in December. I lived in FL, this is not possible IMO

Well, the plants growing there were heavily vined and lots of air potato plants. They can grow 8" per DAY and their roots grow equally as fast. But, even so, I don't think that leaf litter could accumulate in two weeks or even close.

pipkins
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
Twitter
KBelichWFTV:
Defense expert won't answer how inches of leaf litter could have collected in just two weeks [via Twitter]

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
Now she is trying to avoid answering yes or no and wants to go off on her own thought.

Kat
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
I am glad to hear that JA is using a patient voice today. IMHO. It's important to appear calm steady and sure in front of the jury IMHO.

Softail
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
I am hoping that the jurors have common sense and do gardening. They all live in Florida, and have to see what we are seeing. This is silly.

Peliman
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
who knew we'd learn so much about squirrels, pigs and tortoises?

It's the colonisers that interest me, maybe Kimster can expand on this some. I think we're under an alien invasion. :eek:

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
Dr. Bock now claimed that the green leaves on the brown leaves is because one of the trees is releasing green leaves because of some lacking chemical. Even the trees are trying to frame KC.

I'm still waiting for them to to attempt to tie me in somehow.

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
How come the prosecution never put on a botanist? I don't see Ashton make much headway with this witness altho she doesn't look very believable to me.
They get a rebuttal after the defense finishes its case. The State are probably saving their botanist until then, IMO.

bobloblaw
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
she doesn't look very believable to me.


With all due respect, how does one look believable?

Liz
06-21-2011, 10:11 AM
bobkealing

#CaseyAnthony All of the Anthonys averting their eyes from skull photos as Ashton grills Dr. Bock.less than a minute agovia Twitter for iPhone

Goodness, Dr Bock is a feisty one, isn't she!? As someone else posted, she does seem to have an agenda!

BetteDavisEyes
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
Bock sounds like she's playing word games with Ashton. I'm not liking or trusting her testimony. jmo

JSR
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
wow she's really fighting this. Wonder how much $$$ she rec'd for this testimony.

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
What are you basing your opinion on.....that big picture over there

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
Ashton not being as aggressive and abrasive with this witness as he has with other defense forensic experts
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 9:11 AM

These skull photos are as sad as they are horrifying. #CayleeAnthony
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:11 AM

summerthyme
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
JA is brilliant.

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
"Oh, the picture that was taken when you were there....in FEBRUARY."

Oooh, sick burn, JA. ;)

ExpectingUnicorns
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
Bock seems to be an extremely sweet & nice woman but in a situation way above her pay scale. She seems terribly uncomfortable & unsure in her testimony & IMO seems somewhat confused.
JA is being very gentle in his cross which is a good thing. She just seems too fragile to attact with both barrels blazing.

LOL, DH said she reminded him of Julia Childs. Julia Childs of the plant world would be picking the berries and making turnovers ~ not defending Casey.

The Eunice Burns
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
Dr. Bock seems to be trying to avoid answers she knows will hurt the defense rather than answering all questions directly.

Yes, and she is trying to outhink JA. She is couching her answers in an attempt to try and circumvent his next question.

passionflower
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
OMG, Dr. Boch, is stuttering to answer JA

mysticrose
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
This is hard to watch. I am under the impression at this point that she has no understanding of what she is trying to testify to, this is just moo, I wonder if the jury thinks the same.

TiaM
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
Witness has been well-rehearsed by DT - she is adding in extra commentary (opinion) to add doubt instead of just giving a yes or no answer, when yes or no suffices.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
Did a private viewing of the skull photos in the media room. While I wouldn't call them gruesome, they're haunting and sad.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 9:12 AM

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
Great I have banjo music and an Asian woman speaking on Fox - Why not.

I did too...go down to the video and shut the sound...:floorlaugh: I was going nuts trying to find that interference...

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
So Dr. Bock is basing her opinion of the two weeks on a photo taken in FEBUARY and not the actual photo of the skull when it was found.

That makes total sense. GAG.

countzero
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?

She and Anne Finnell. Are they separated sisters from birth.

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
My head hurts - didn't she just admit that the skull pics of the leaf litter clearly shows more than just two weeks of accumulation?

Now she's basing her answer on the pic of Feb 09 - huh? Six weeks later?

Mamabear1963
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
Okay, so reasonable doubt is...um...I guess the testimony doesn't have to make sense...

miss plum
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
I don't think she is any threat whatsoever to the State's case and I think 'The Thinker' is gloomily thinking that also.

wenwe4
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
I missed DS questioning....

Cross

JA - from Colorado? how much time spent working in FL....was site of PhD thesis. in 1966
actual work in FL in 1960 - moving up and down FL looking @ water hyacinths and distribution in fresh water bodies and semi-marine areas...other projects studied food habits of tortise....1980 off and on thru 1990. her parents lived here - came to see them...used field guides to become familiar with thousands plant speices to further botanical non-native and native plants.....in general and continues to now....study botany in FL

most of work has been studying grasslands - part of work and big piece of it grasslands here and in South America....agree different areas of the country have unique botanical ecology....visit area where body was found...reviewed large number of photos from scene in various stages of exploration and pristine....frequently wet?
characterized as a swamp-hardwood....part of the plants are upward so not wet all the time ....not all the time underwater but frequently under water?
occassionally under water or wet....
statements to counsel that body could have been there in as little as 2 weeks....based upon all botanical information in this case....hair mass roots grown there in as little as 2 weeks....grown or accumulated in 2 weeks? yes both.....

canvas laundry bag roots growing into the fabric - could have occurred in 2 weeks in December...roots growing into the bones.....saw photos and also saw bones.....opinion growth into the bone could have grown into the bone in 2 weeks in Dec.....not expert on bones/osteology...roots to penetrate substances yes.....never experienced working witha decomposing skeleton?

Dr; B has dealt with looked @ evidence of skeletons in place for several years....yes and no is not so easy.....looked @ bone where root grown into skeleton....recall depo 2/12/11 pg 64 & 65----ever examine skeleton where plants and roots grown into the skeleton...answer no but done classes....bone? trying to think...clay....no bones doesn't sound like me.....

she observed forensic archeologist perhaps 10 yr old skeleton did see roots ....should have qualified what she said but didn't even think about that @ time....experience w/roots grown into bone is extremely limited =yes.

in photos viewed - leaf liter built up on skull up to area of lower portion of the eyes......photos of skull as it was found in pristine form with leaves? yes perhaps...don't know when individual leaves were....

pic buried up to nose or ear area on the skull....leaf litter collected up to the jaw and nose...leaf litter and humus....whatever it is it is collected to that height - that amount of leaf litter can collect and pile up in that form in just 2 weeks?

other considerations about this picture.....yes that high leaf litter in just 2 weeks.

recognize this as photo of skull when returned to ME office with leaf litter collected around it...yes...agree this reflects leaves of varying degrees of decomposition some still green, some yellow some brown, some completely gray...yes....reflection of various decomp levels also reflection of when the leaves fell from trees...some fall when no cholorophil left....some shed when still green....all decomp of leaves around the skull could occur in just 2 weeks in December? left side of the skull or the right side? either side....she doesn't understand how the collection was made.....ME investigator put hands 6" - 8" either side of the skull tried to lift all leaf litter in around and under skull......moved some toward skull - hard not to....leaves have clearly been off the trees for longer than 2 weeks?? and lying other things perhaps.....skull been there for alot longer than 2 weeks? given your hypothesis it had laid there undisturbed all that time answer would be yes.....what is it you are basing thought on other than leaf litter just discussed.....the big cardboard picture....all leaf litter there accumulated on ground that was scraped there by 15th of decemeber - are you familiar with leaf fall rates on trees indiginous to FL? yes!

If I may - defense exhibit #29 - big pic - what you are saying the amount of leaves here occurred here in approx 6 weeks...not covering ground? in some places is and isn't....lavellier mike for her

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
Yes, she is paid

'nuff said?

Wouldn't it take more than the JAC wages to have her make such outrageous claims? Something seems fishy. Why risk her credibility?

robotdog
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
I didnt like her from the GEEEEET GO

sleutherontheside
06-21-2011, 10:13 AM
OMG....was that a toot?

cityslick
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
bbm
It's what I classify as cantankerous...just like my dear Mom...just can't imagine being wrong about anything as it might be an indication of a failing mind...and will even fib when she has to...

If you job involves some sort of research, and then you get some lawyer who's telling you to your face that your research is wrong, I'd think you get a little 'cantankerous' as well, no matter who it's supposed to benefit?

Do you think Dr. Vass enjoyed the DT trying to say his air sample research was wrong? Same principle.

Celt1997
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
Well, the plants growing there were heavily vined and lots of air potato plants. They can grow 8" per DAY and their roots grow equally as fast. But, even so, I don't think that leaf litter could accumulate in two weeks or even close.

I grow hops and I can tell you that they will grow 12" a day, and will pierce any sort of weed fabric or plastic really quickly. Of course there is no evidence that someone had a hops farm back in those woods, so it's kind of moot, but there are plants out there that will create a ton of root growth/entanglement in a short period of time.

Serjen
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
Whether she's being purposely untruthful or not... it's a difficult position to be in sitting in the "hot seat" being relentlessly grilled by a character like JA. Anyone would get defensive! I'm sure that she has never been talked to like that ... probably ever, by anybody! She's used to being in a position of authority as a professor...

And just how is he talking to her? He's questioning a ridiculous claim by the witness, does he have to baby her because she's an old woman? Ridiculous. These witnesses have been deposed by Ashton in the past so they know what they will be dealing with. This is a trial for the murder of a 2 year old, JA doesn't have to be sweet and sugary to a bunch of paid lying witnesses, IMO. And she's old enough where I'm SURE at some point in her lifetime she's been talked to a lot worse.

laserdisc10
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
Yes, and she is trying to outhink JA. She is couching her answers in an attempt to try and circumvent his next question.

Great comment. Sums her up

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense expert won't answer how inches of leaf litter could have collected in just two weeks
2 minutes ago

SillyJilly
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
Methinks she is Prof. Umbridge from Harry Potter. :floorlaugh:

OMG I was thinking the same thing!:floorlaugh:

yeknomaras
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
totally evasive witness. waste. huge waste.

mydailyopinions
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?

My theory on another thread is that LKB is owed some favors.

TiaM
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
ICA doing her best, "Oh I just can't bear to look at those photo's."

Yet had no problem looking at the DT big, blown up photos.....:maddening:

Aedrys
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
OMG, the defense just can't have ONE decent witness. Not ONE. And seriously, reading leaf litter makes you a botanist? I think most of us here can do that. OMG. What an insult to collective intelligence of the jury WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN FLORIDA!

I'm seriously expecting Dr. Doolittle next to testify on behalf of the squirrels who lost a loved one in Casey's trunk. That is how crazy this trial is getting. Sheesh.

MaraSleuth
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
How come the prosecution never put on a botanist? I don't see Ashton make much headway with this witness altho she doesn't look very believable to me.

Possibly saving for rebuttal. Now they now the DT stance and can refute their claims IMO.

logicalgirl
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
Dr. Bock is being defiant enough to force JA to take her apart piece by piece - why not just concede she may have been mistaken?

ohiogirl
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?

Lol, like what? Is she currently faces charges for something?
just kidding

ZsaZsa
06-21-2011, 10:14 AM
ICA doing her best, "Oh I just can't bear to look at those photo's."

Brings back memories no doubt, of chucking her child in there.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
prosec trying to get botanist 2 say its not possible skull was there fewer than 2 weeks due 2 photo of remains and leaf litter
by abcashleigh via twitter at 9:14 AM

passionflower
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
remember it was a flooded area and leafs move........Dah count wind also...........
I'm no expert but her testimony sucks, IMO

PGWodehouse
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Methinks she is Prof. Umbridge from Harry Potter. :floorlaugh:

Ha! Been thinking the same thing!!!!

TraceyLeigh
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
OMG....was that a toot?

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::great:

USARDOG
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Well, the plants growing there were heavily vined and lots of air potato plants. They can grow 8" per DAY and their roots grow equally as fast. But, even so, I don't think that leaf litter could accumulate in two weeks or even close.Thanks, but i have lived in FL most of my life. Camped, hunted, trained USAR. I have never, ever seen a plant grow 8" in one DAY. This is alien space stuff and defies what I have seen all my life, and I lived within 50 miles of this crime scene.

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Dr Bock may come across as sweet and grandmotherly but she seems to have an agenda to fight for the killer for some strange reason. Was she promised something for her testimony?

Lots of Money.

laserdisc10
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Wouldn't it take more than the JAC wages to have her make such outrageous claims? Something seems fishy. Why risk her credibility?

Another great comment

Could someone be calling in debts ?

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
It sounds as though Ashton's questions are taking her off the talking points she rehearsed with the DT, so she's unsure how to answer Ashton so she's evading, trying to pull it back around to the answers she has rehearsed, IMO.

dog.gone.cute
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
:eek: Oh for Pete's sake ! That "pose" by ICA ... I hope the Jury is seeing this !

:waitasec:

GUILT -- ICA's GUILT is clearly showing ... she just cannot look at the "trash dump" where she threw Caylee's body ...

:maddening:

cloud9
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Methinks she is Prof. Umbridge from Harry Potter. :floorlaugh:

OMG! You are correct!!! Yikes!
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:15 AM
Some polite smiles.“@StevieDeStefano: @JimLichtenstein Does the Jury respond when Baez greets and smiles at them?”
by jimlichtenstein via twitter at 9:15 AM

The picture of Caylee's skull has been on the monitors for awhile now. I bet the prosecution keeps it up to make a point. #CaseyAnthony
by stevehelling via twitter at 9:15 AM

Novice Seeker
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Regardless of being a paid expert would think maintaining professional credibility and respect to ones profession would direct an experts behavior on the stand.

Amster
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Did anyone besides me read her deposition??

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
ICA head in hands.

downport
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Dr. Bock's manner of speaking reminds me of Chance the gardener in the movie "Being There".

Holy cow ! I thought the EXACT same thing !

SATA
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
I need a sidebar - have to pee.... badly... LOL

MvD
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
SMH ... Unbelievable.

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
She needs to come to the Appalachians in the Fall. :floorlaugh:

sophie01
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
So Dr. Bock is basing her opinion of the two weeks on a photo taken in FEBUARY and not the actual photo of the skull when it was found.

That makes total sense. GAG.

That's what I am getting from this testimony.... makes no sense at all.

pipkins
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Twitter
KBelichWFTV:
Jurors are smirking again during Ashton's challenging the defense witness [via Twitter]

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
LOL She can use her professorial voice.

I'm a trainer, and I can REALLY PROJECT. No one ever wants to put a mic on me.

Except with her voice, she sounds angry, not just loud.

And she just tried to ask a question. JA said she can't ask the questions. *giggles*

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
And...........Casey laughs. Still in her pose.

Eidetic
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
ICA doing her best, "Oh I just can't bear to look at those photo's."

While laughing.

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
OMG I was thinking the same thing!:floorlaugh:

Wonder if she wants one of my kittens. :floorlaugh:

Kat
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
I have to disagree this witness is an excellent witness (for the SA even if she was called by the DT LOL).

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Yuk it up, ICA. Oh, whoops, right back to the Thinker.

8truthseeker8
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Casey is doing her "pulling sweater sleeve" thing....... Didn't she do this last time they showed pics of Caylee's skull???? She is trying to distance herself from her crime..... like a child and a blankie. She gets a sense of security by pulling the sleeves of her sweater; trying to console herself.

She can't even look up.

Mohabi
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Cute JA! "The neat thing about this is that you don't get to ask me questions!"

Oakley
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Witness asks question. Jeff laughs and says "The neat thing about this is you don't get to ask me questions! But that's ok, that's ok." All laugh.

Jetaime
06-21-2011, 10:16 AM
lol
JA: "The neat thing about this is you dont get to ask me questions". :floorlaugh:

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
hahahahah - JA: "Thing is about this - you dn't get to ask me questions."

And you could hear the laughter from the jury as well.

jamiect
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
"The thing about this is you don't get to ask me questions." -Ashton

logicalgirl
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
Why am I humming the Gambler and know when to hold em and know when to fold em...

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
NO did anyone else measure them ? JA says the neat thing about this is that you don’t get to ask questions. I think that little defensive spurt just hurt her credibility

passionflower
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
Time for shower, I don't think I will miss anything!

grammieto5
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
OOOHH Seriously KC can laugh ????

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
Laughter as Bock asks Ashton a question and he says "The neat thing about this is YOU don't get to ask ME questions"
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 9:16 AM

Juror 2 just cracked a smile! I don't think I've ever seen that before! #CaseyAnthony
by stevehelling via twitter at 9:16 AM

Bock asked a question. Ashton says let him ask questions. Jury laughs. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:16 AM

"The thing about this is you don't get to ask me questions." -Ashton
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 9:16 AM

Hamsterdance
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
ICA trying to look sad but just stifled a laugh and went back to her pose when JA says to Dr. Bock that "the good thing is that only I get to ask the questions"

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 10:17 AM
This lady is crazy and she will NEVER admit she COULD be wrong.

Velouria
06-21-2011, 10:18 AM
Methinks she is Prof. Umbridge from Harry Potter. :floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh: With a little Professor Sybil Trelawney thrown in!




I must not tell lies.
I must not tell lies
I must not tell lies
I must not tell lies...

DianaElaine
06-21-2011, 10:18 AM
ICA head down .. and then she LAUGHS! PLEASE!!!

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:18 AM
Defense trying to lay foundation for someone like Roy Kronk somehow putting body there much later.
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:17 AM

Bock's question to Ashton and Ashton's response brings laughter from all, incl. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 9:17 AM

Omachka
06-21-2011, 10:18 AM
Oops JA made ICA laugh while she was trying to act upset by the talk of the skull. :crazy:

cloud9
06-21-2011, 10:18 AM
OMG! She is fiesty! Asking JA if anyone else measured! But JA's comeback was awesome! :)

And she's trying to avoid answering questions.

debloree
06-21-2011, 10:18 AM
JA's demo and ICA hiding her laugh.

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:18 AM
The mock juror is no longer listening to Dr. Bock.

TraceyLeigh
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
lol
JA: "The neat thing about this is you dont get to ask me questions". :floorlaugh:

I am SO missing this show while trying to keep from getting fired! Thanks for keeping me informed!!

:great::floorlaugh:

LancelotLink
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
People tramping around will stop the wind?

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
Whether she's being purposely untruthful or not... it's a difficult position to be in sitting in the "hot seat" being relentlessly grilled by a character like JA. Anyone would get defensive! I'm sure that she has never been talked to like that ... probably ever, by anybody! She's used to being in a position of authority as a professor...

She chose to do this. No one forced her.

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
She certainly finds her voice when she feels threatened in her opinion

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
I like this exchange between Dr. Bock and JA. She is tough and so is he.

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
I'd feel sorry for her, but she made a choice to be there. She's an Emeritus now, so she's drawing a pension and still teaching occasionally. If she wants to play in the legal system, she deserves what she gets.

:cow:

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
LOLBOAT!!

Sorry.

Marple
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
This lady is crazy and she will NEVER admit she COULD be wrong.

I can't say she's crazy but she is stubborn in her opinion, even in the face of photographic evidence that she is incorrect!

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
:floorlaugh: With a little Professor Sybil Trelawney thrown in!

Want me to ask her if she can read our camphor tea leaves? :floorlaugh:

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
Trampling around does NOT blow leaves, sorry.

Liz
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
The macabre picture has now been on monitors for 15 minutes or so. #CaseyAnthony has not looked up, not even once.

by stevehelling via twitter at 7:18 AM

(Skull photo of Caylee)

Ssejors
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
The mock juror is no longer listening to Dr. Bock.

OMG KAT! I just tuned in. And I already am having a hard time even following her. I'm finding she is being very... false. for lack of a better word. She's fooling us...

Jomo
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
Witness discussing lack of leaf litter in part of the photo as being due to "trampling" by people, animals and wind.

I think this is silly! Jurors will think so too.

strawberry
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
Did anyone besides me read her deposition??

I did...didn't she talk about happy plants?

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
Ok - now she just said "Other plants in this forest". Thought it was classified as a swamp/hardwood

butwhatif?
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
ICA back to the Thinker pose... *eye roll*

Thinker pose and thinker poke :giggle:

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
“...to the best of my knowledge, because I was with someone who was not there ..."

TiaM
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
wow she's really fighting this. Wonder how much $$$ she rec'd for this testimony.

It's almost as if Baez has told all his expert witnesses that they won't get paid unless ICA is acquitted (over and above whatever the JAC pays).

It's as if he knows he'll be in line for lots of $$$$ if there is an acquittal, and he will pay out a little bonus, no?

Amster
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
This lady is a legend in her own mind.....getting her 15 minutes off the blood of a dead 2 yr. old....

Cherry Baby
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
Well, I see ICA is working on that Academy Award performance again. That's right, keep at it. I'm so going to love when the trial is over to see if the jurors bought into her acting.

Liz
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
CFNews13Casey

Bock asked a question. Ashton says let him ask questions. Jury laughs. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
3 minutes ago via Twitter for iPad

Jomo
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
she didn't really know where the skull was found. Told by someone who was not there either.

mydailyopinions
06-21-2011, 10:20 AM
We are literally going on a week since the defense opened their CIC, and I have yet to hear one POINT from anyone in defense of Casey Anthony.

WTH? I thought we would all understand?:waitasec:

Oakley
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
Witness was at crime scene with Linda Baden (sic.)

Fluffy Puppy
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
Making yourself available as an expert witness to defend a child killer is a pathetic way to make a living. IMO she is despicable.

I am sort of in favor of due process and in that courtroom as it stands right now, there are no convicted child killers. In my mind, or in your mind, she may be a child killer, but this is her trial, and she is entitled to a defense.

Look, I think ICA is as guilty as the next person here, but I am trying to watch this more from a legal perspective and judicial system perspective. I realize everyone is not watching it with that lens.

BTW, I believe JA is now doing a bang up job on his cross. I should have more confidence!

STEADFAST
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb202/toshroger/6215casey.png

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb202/toshroger/6216.png

Linda7NJ
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
hmmmm, I'm thinking....even without a PhD. *I* could do what this woman is doing too and reach a more believable conclusion

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
Prof. Umbridge now yelling at JA! :floorlaugh:

Sedona722
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
ICA head down .. and then she LAUGHS! PLEASE!!!

Jury....take note!! I bet they did, too! I'm sure they are on to her by now.

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
ICA head in hands.
You know she has to at least pretend since mommy and daddy are in court today, imo she is just copying their reaction since she cannot figure out how to properly emote.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
Ja getting to the meat of it.

mysticrose
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
She lost me a long time ago and not intellectually, lol

Stella5
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
Why are we arguing a picture that was taken in February, 2 months after Caylee was recovered? Why not argue only the pictures when Caylee was found? The scene looked different 2 months after, and it certainly looks much different 2 1/2 years later in dragonlady's pictures. This is crazy!!!

robotdog
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
He will get her,,, she thinks she is correct about anything and everything

the snare has been set


watch out here it comes

azscr4mbl3r
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
well there you go LKB told her.... it must be true....case closed!

Jomo
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
JA just got her to admit that she didn't know where the body was recovered.

jamiect
06-21-2011, 10:21 AM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Juror's taking notes again
36 seconds ago

PaperTigers
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
She chose to do this. No one forced her.

I don't understand how having chosen to be there precludes her from being allowed to get defensive or to show emotion. She has a right to stand up for herself.

21merc7
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
Did she just say Linda Boden told her something?

Softail
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
Dr. Bock and Dr. Spitz would make an adorable couple~!

Solomisskitty
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
JA did a good job of keeping his tone in check while questioning. Better than Bock.

dog.gone.cute
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
remember it was a flooded area and leafs move........Dah count wind also...........
I'm no expert but her testimony sucks, IMO

BBM: Exactly ... Tropical Storm Faye "hit" that area of Florida ...

:waitasec: I wonder if this so-called expert has spent any time in Tropical Storms or Hurricanes down here in the South ... I have, and many times ...

Kat
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
JA is pinning her down. Patiently and calmly.

miss plum
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
The mock juror is no longer listening to Dr. Bock.

Bombshell: A stunning new development in Mock vs. Bock!

liltexans
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
Ashton asks why there's more leaves on one side. Bock says because of people trampling around and animals. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:21 AM

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
This lady is crazy and she will NEVER admit she COULD be wrong.

Maybe Dr Spitz' 2nd cousin?

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
so you are not prepared to render an opinion

I thought I did

she is starting a slide downhill.

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
JA is very gently crushing her testimony.

Amster
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
I did...didn't she talk about happy plants?

lol...among other things

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
I don't understand how having chosen to be there precludes her from being allowed to get defensive or to show emotion. She has a right to stand up for herself.

I can't disagree with that.

cloud9
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
:floorlaugh: With a little Professor Sybil Trelawney thrown in!




I must not tell lies.
I must not tell lies
I must not tell lies
I must not tell lies...

OMG! You guys are killing me!
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 10:22 AM
OMG - she just said the Linda Baden told her that tree had significance.

JA: "you can't render an opinion about when Caylee's body was left at this scene?"

I did render an opinon.

A couple of weeks before. Oh please - the things people will do for money.