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shellsbells
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
"Who were you getting your instructions from?"
"Mr. Baez"

Novice Seeker
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Baez, Baez, Baez,

LyndyLoo
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Good Morning..and Happy Summer Solstice...Humm..I listened to this witness and wondered somewhat ..Guess I put more credence into the testimony of Dr. Haskell ( bug guy) than relying on leaf litter to suggest what this expert was trying to sell..Dont think the jury was buying her opinion..Didnt really hold water when talking about root growth at all...

BTW..that blanket photo that was more root material than blanket told me a much different story..:twocents:

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
So does JB get the punishment and they let him testify?

JB has HHBP by the shorthairs for now as HH wants ICA to get a fair trial and can’t effect JB until after.

pjones
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Another one bites the dust....

Velouria
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
I am NOT looking forward to listening to "River Cruize" I think she intentionally interjected herself into the A's life for her own twisted drama needs fix and GA fell for a kind word in a stormy darker than dark time in his life. I feel this way from reading her depo's . She said "Um" almost every other word. This made me feel her testimony was kind of unreliable/unbelievable . Also she stated that she could tell that GA was describing HER when he gave an account of what Zanny supposedly looked like.. That just struck me as way odd!


ITA!! :clap:

And pleeeease, does she describe herself as a "10", too? :rolleyes:

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
No surprises here. The DT has not informed any of their witnesses about the court's order.

azscr4mbl3r
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
She didn't say the SKULL was buried by a dog.....she said the one that was found so deep in the muck could have possibly been buried by a dog. I don't think it was, but she is right and it's not that far fetched as bad as I hate to admit it. But that one point.......not nearly enough, :floorlaugh:

It is funny because a teacher is blaming a dog IE "ate my homework" not that it isn't possible or likely IMHO. If she had blamed dead squirrels that would be a tortoise of a different color so to speak. :floorlaugh:

Kat
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
He just called Baez out. Stating that is who he got instructions from.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Eikelenboom said he was not advised about preparing report. He spoke with #JoseBaez. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 10:05 AM

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
JB is just a failure. IMO

Nana46
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
How sweet it is. IMO:great:

downport
06-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Dr E is sending Jose Baez to jail.
WOW

adb263
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
POOR JB...We hardly knew thee!!! (insert sarcasm)

We may have seen JB for the last time!! jmo

Kat
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Gall durn commercial! Please post what he's saying ACK!

QueenD
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Herre we go who were you getting your instructions from? Mr. Baez his answer.

MessySanders
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Do you think Baez is taking one for Casey so she can file appeal and possibly start this over again since this OBVIOUSLY isn't gong well for her?

kathyn2
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Poor guy gets up on the stand thinking he was going to testify and instead gets a grilling by the judge. This Jose needs SEVERE sanctions. He is VERY unethical. I cannot believe how he operates and that he is getting away with all of this.

greycoupon
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Well, JB is going to the principals office again.

Wow.

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
HHJP is brilliant doing this for the record.

tehcloser
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
rut roh'................

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Holy hell on a stick!!

Just K
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Well, well, well Dr E was never asked to give a report until this past Saturday.

Joanner
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
We have been told that there are coyotes in Pinellas Park, Florida.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/2010/09/in-pinellas-park-the-wild-animals-run-amok.html

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
JB told him on SATURDAY that he had to write a report? IS that what I heard?

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
He lost track of the case?! :eek:

mydailyopinions
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
I am going to be ticked if this guy is allowed to testify!

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
OMG JB in big trouble! :eek:

gibby207
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Where's the dramatic chipmunk video when you need one???!!!

GreenTeam
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
What will HHJB do???

Soulmagent
06-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Just started watching ,but finding it crazy these people who have been to court for other cases for years now are being read apparently instructions they have never had to follow in court before.

And you can tell they all confused and feel like they did something wrong. IMO.

tragco
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
HHJP asking these questions for the possibility of contempt proceedings and he refers to a three pronged ?thingy? he has to have.

Witness: (Eiklenbloom sp?) No I was never asked to file such a report. HHJP: Who were you mainly communicating with: Mr. Baez. Then Witness admits he was only asked to write a report a few days ago. Witness says he was available to be contacted by DT by email, phone, or skype.

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
"The defense could reach us if they wanted."

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
I just can not believe that Baez never told any of his experts to write a full report of opinions and reasons for such opinions! He need a good ol fashioned paddling! How can he expect to get away with this?

liltexans
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Perry: Who did you communicate with? Mr. Baez. Just Saturday night we wrote report. Not good at all for Baez.
by bobkealing via twitter at 10:06 AM

Eikelenboom says he was never asked to provide CV, a report, and never saw judge's order. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 10:06 AM

watergirl
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
so if HHJP confirms that JB never told his experts about the courts order then he can disallow the experts testimony without fear of appeal, correct?

MvD
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Ut oh.... Baez is in deep do do.... didn't do due diligence with Dr. E.

TortillaChip
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
This witness is being honest with the judge, not evasive. That bodes well.

jmfstl
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Baez now asking questions

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
JB told him on SATURDAY that he had to write a report? IS that what I heard?

Yess! :eek:

yllek
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
The expert wasn't told by JB that he didn't need to write a report?
Dr. Spitz wasn't told that the babysitter didn't really have the baby.

This is seriously looking like incompetence combined with stalling the witness reports as long as possible so JB could make their opinions match whatever defense he could eventually stitch together.

JB really should not be practicing law, imo..

QB.
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Right now I would like a split screen of the witness & JB

adb263
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Gall durn commercial! Please post what he's saying ACK!

switch to Wesh.com....no commercials and casey PIP.

TiaM
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
I think the issues we are seeing is the defense is bringing in many excuses to why things seem to point to KC. we have to assume a dog buried a bone rather than the bones have been there for several months. We have to assume that someone else placed the tape over the bones because that person wanted to keep the jaw in place to make this look like a crime? or for fun? Rather than believe that KC placed the tape from her home over the mouth of her child three times to kill her.

We are then asked to believe that coffin flies were attracted to a few ounces of tabacco spit in a closed container at the body dump, rather than the actual dead body.

We are to believe that trash in the trunk of KC's car although containing NO FOOD was the cause of maggots, flies and a decomp smell, rather than the body actually being in the trunk at some point leaving behind all of these things including a smell that could still be picked up 2 years after the trash was removed and trunk liner.

We are asked to believe that Caylee drowned in her pool and that no one attempted CPR or called authorities because both GA and KC were sure Caylee was dead and were so afraid of Cindy Anthony they both decided it would be better to let her body rot someplace and pretend like nothing happened. RATHER than believe that KC was the last to be seen with a live Caylee, that she only knows what happened, that her car has evidence of a dead caylee in it, that she alone dumped the body and she alone worked to cover it up.

We are to believe that a stranger somehow figured out where Caylee's body was first decomposing and stole the body, kept it with him until a reward was announced then set up the tape and resting place in the woods so that he could become rich and famous (which he has not to this day become either).

We are to believe that a girl who claims she was horridly molested by her father decided to protect him, cover up the drowning for 3 years, sit in jail and continue to follow his lead even when she was out on bond and able to tell what happened and face a lesser charge if any and have him arrested for molestation as well.

I can go on and on - the defense is asking the jury to REACH for the bizarre rather than common sense and the evidence. I have seen NO REASONABLE DOUBT.

Fantastic Post! The "thanks" button was not enough!

The State could actually use this as an outline for part of their closing arguements.

Kat
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
This is so not good. This is so not good. OMG this is so not good.

<biting nails>

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
I think he is fixing to be.

But the instruction JP read before this guy took the stand said there was a court order saying expert witnesses were to write reports, the State wasn't given a report from this witness and therefore the jury can use that to weigh his testimony.

To me that's penalizing the witness in front of the jury, not JB.

Camille
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Casey looked a little ticked when the witness said that after they examined the evidence they lost contact.

2goldfish
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
oohhhhh this is shameful of JB et al to snowball this guy like this.

JusticeSeeker1960
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
I am NOT looking forward to listening to "River Cruize" I think she intentionally interjected herself into the A's life for her own twisted drama needs fix and GA fell for a kind word in a stormy darker than dark time in his life. I feel this way from reading her depo's . She said "Um" almost every other word. This made me feel her testimony was kind of unreliable/unbelievable . Also she stated that she could tell that GA was describing HER when he gave an account of what Zanny supposedly looked like.. That just struck me as way odd!

Somebody correct me please, I thought this "affair" happened way after ICA went to jail....I thought they met during the search for Caylee? If so, how could GA use her description during his interview????

grammieto5
06-21-2011, 11:07 AM
This is a guaranteed ineffective counsel appeal.

I can't believe JB

I've thought for a long time this is JB's plan

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Do you think Baez is taking one for Casey so she can file appeal and possibly start this over again since this OBVIOUSLY isn't gong well for her?

I just can't believe she would want to do this this over. I would think KC would want a good lawyer to get her aquitted the first time.

Velouria
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
We have been told that there are coyotes in Pinellas Park, Florida.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/2010/09/in-pinellas-park-the-wild-animals-run-amok.html


HHJP just caught one in Orlando. :D

shellsbells
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Baez: "Is this the first time you have been asked to write a report?"

He's trying to undermine the Judge's order, and that's a really bad idea imo.

Novice Seeker
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Eikelenboom said he was not advised about preparing report. He spoke with #JoseBaez. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 10:05 AM


and Michelle Medina

Oakley
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Does Mr Eikenbloom not speak or understand English well? Not being snarky, just an observation.

hpvdr
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Baez is asking him if any other judge has ever asked him to write a report. No bueno Jose.

adb263
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
OMG>...JB going to blame Judge because no other Judge requests reports!! the gall!!!!

LancelotLink
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Is JB trying to say, thru Eikenbloom that writing reports is unreasonable?

cityslick
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
This was commented on the other day, but I think it bears repeating. I have no doubt that this woman is guilty, but I also believe in due process and there is something wrong when someone could be condemned mainly due to ineffective counsel. I'm not sure what will happen from here on out, but to me, if she does get the DP, I think something is wrong with that. Because no matter what the opinions here are, everyone is entitled due process and effective counsel. She's not getting that with this trial and I think that's an issue, mainly because the DP is in play.

strach304
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
JB is busted by the judge!

mydailyopinions
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Baez will now turn on his own witness, saying he should have known to write a report.

Wow.

jmfstl
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
JB he is not answering your questions the way you wanted

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
JB is now blaming his own witness for JB's mistakes.

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
The good Dr. Is VERY nervous!!

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Ooooo, Oh..Baez will get slammed...

He never told this RE to render a report...he was retained in July 2010...doesn't recall order...

Never told to give a report...Mr. Baez didn't tell him to write up a report between December 2010 and May 2011...Just last Saturday he was requested by Baez to go to the prosecutors office, so Saturday night he wrote up his report...I believe His Honor is going to hand Baez his walking papers...

Between December 2010 and May 2011 the DT could have contacted me...Baez trying to wiggle out of this one...

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
Now JB is blaming the witness' wife??

Just K
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
JB sneaking in the witnesses background and DNA.

LancelotLink
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
He wrote his report Saturday???

Linda7NJ
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
oh boy

Is Jose blaming his witnesses WIFE for his blunders

BigFatMommyDog
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
Is JB trying to say, thru Eikenbloom that writing reports is unreasonable?

"Trust Me"

Drama Queen
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
It is JB trying to CYA that is offensive to all jurice prudence.

TiaM
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
JB will throw Michelle Medina under the bus to save his own arse.

JusticeSeeker1960
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
I just can not believe that Baez never told any of his experts to write a full report of opinions and reasons for such opinions! He need a good ol fashioned paddling! How can he expect to get away with this?

JB doesn't play well with others..........he don't like to share

Fluffy Puppy
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
OMG, 'we told your wife to pass it on to you'. Yeah Jose, that'll cover it.

Wysteria
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
As I've stated I have a great affinity for the elderly. It seemed to me this witness was in physical pain also. A recent surgery? Arthritis?

I've thought about some of these DT's witnesses...(Spitz also),... perhaps they are testifying because they are totally and completely against the death penalty? I'd feel uncomfortable if I thought there motive was money or media attention. Call me naive.

This witness was a gift for the prosecution. Thank goodness for that is all I can say.

JA seems to have toned it down a bit as well. I feel that the only reason why he gets touchy now and then is because of his passion for justice. There were some times that he was actually shaking. He's been insulted and dragged into lectures just because of appeal issues. It's very, very difficult to detach sometimes when one feels frustrated or insulted or whatever. I personally do not have that sort of the detached
gift thingy. My sister is a pro, her "toleration bar" is set higher than mine. I hope JA continues his effort. If he does not, I don't blame him. How would you feel? Attorney's are human beings first, professionalism and proper courtroom manners are expected, but I understand him and his reasons.

Caylee Marie we love you hunny.

HotButteredGrits
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
Ashton just needs to sit there and say nothing. Dr. E is doing well on his own with Baez helping.

Amity
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
After the Judge gets done questioning Dr. E, me thinks Baez is going to be in deep, deep uhhh humus.

ABBM

LOL

As the saying goes:
From your lips to God's ears!

greycoupon
06-21-2011, 11:09 AM
What kind of scientist is this gentleman?

JB's questions aren't helping. So it's the guy's wife's fault. SERIOUSLY? JB is throwing everyone under the bus. I dont think this will endear the witness to the DT much.

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
:snake:

Dr.Fessel
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
LOL LOL Keep digging Jose.

Steft50
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Come on Baez, using your own witness to complain about the Judges orders concerning opinion requirments before testimony is rather lame and extremely immature and childish. IMO!

concentric
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
HHJP asking the expert witness if he disappeared during the timeframe.

IMO, ICA visibly winced at the thought of "disappearing," as in the 31 days where she did?

Just wondering.

Americka
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Baez, like his client, will never accept responsibility for his actions.

JSR
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Great now JB is trying to blame this on the witnesses WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd NEVER let an atty do that to my spouse. Poor woman.

2goldfish
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Somebody correct me please, I thought this "affair" happened way after ICA went to jail....I thought they met during the search for Caylee? If so, how could GA use her description during his interview????


also, KH/RC is cute...but she is not a 10 :snooty:

kathyn2
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
How is this helping Baez??? Baez was suppose to tell the guy to do a report. He didn't do it. Period. Baez is guilty. These questions aren't helping him. He can't even defend himself.

STEADFAST
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
What? Baez is now throwing this guy's wife under the bus!

DalesWife
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Is the jury in the room while HHJP asks Eikenbloom these questions about whether (or not) he was instructed to write a report?

liltexans
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Judge Perry asked how many times did He speak w defense.Eikelenboom says they stopped talking for a period of time. He mostly talked w/ Baez
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 10:08 AM

GreenTeam
06-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Who is Michelle Medina?

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
This was commented on the other day, but I think it bears repeating. I have no doubt that this woman is guilty, but I also believe in due process and there is something wrong when someone could be condemned mainly due to ineffective counsel. I'm not sure what will happen from here on out, but to me, if she does get the DP, I think something is wrong with that. Because no matter what the opinions here are, everyone is entitled due process and effective counsel. She's not getting that with this trial and I think that's an issue, mainly because the DP is in play.

ITA and no she is not getting it. That's for sure city!!

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
Typical JB...now blaming this witness's wife and Michelle Medina of his office.

Of course JB had nothing at all to do with any of this.

He is a tool.

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
HHJP just caught one in Orlando. :D
:floorlaugh:
This post deserves more thank a thank you button.

Clearly Confused
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
People are NOT mocking their knowledge or education. People are mocking the FACT that it is clear they are evasive or bending the truth in order to ensure they help the Defense. State witnesses were a lot more forthcoming and didn't hem and haw during cross, making them appear questionable. JB often told State witnesses to answer "yes or no" and they would, while Defense witnesses don't simply answer yes or no, they have to say things like "Well it could also have happened xyz". This has nothing to do with their education. Personally I don't understand why these learned and educated people that are held in high esteem are agreeing to help the defense by omitting details or making random assumptions not based on fact. All of DT witnesses have admitted that the information they got on this cased is based solely on what they were told by Defense and basically nothing else.
For an expert witness to come to the stand and say she examined where she THINKS the recovery site is TWO MONTHS LATER and make any conclusion about it, is ridiculous. Regardless of how many years of schooling she has.

And this is ALL JUST MY OPINION.
BBM Because of the almighty dollar! I have seen it at my work and it is disgusting.

Just K
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
Let's blame the women...the wife and the secretary... Dr E and JB have no responsibility here as to the report. One can't exclude anything from any report that they were never asked to report.

momtective
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
I have a couple of questions for Baez, "Is ICA that important to you?" "Why are you willing to fall on the sword for her and risk your career?"

No one would risk everything if there wasn't something even better at the end of it all! jmo

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
This was commented on the other day, but I think it bears repeating. I have no doubt that this woman is guilty, but I also believe in due process and there is something wrong when someone could be condemned mainly due to ineffective counsel. I'm not sure what will happen from here on out, but to me, if she does get the DP, I think something is wrong with that. Because no matter what the opinions here are, everyone is entitled due process and effective counsel. She's not getting that with this trial and I think that's an issue, mainly because the DP is in play.

That's ICA's call...she has been asked many times if she was happy with her representation...JMHO

azwriter
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
I think the issues we are seeing is the defense is bringing in many excuses to why things seem to point to KC. we have to assume a dog buried a bone rather than the bones have been there for several months. We have to assume that someone else placed the tape over the bones because that person wanted to keep the jaw in place to make this look like a crime? or for fun? Rather than believe that KC placed the tape from her home over the mouth of her child three times to kill her.

We are then asked to believe that coffin flies were attracted to a few ounces of tabacco spit in a closed container at the body dump, rather than the actual dead body.

We are to believe that trash in the trunk of KC's car although containing NO FOOD was the cause of maggots, flies and a decomp smell, rather than the body actually being in the trunk at some point leaving behind all of these things including a smell that could still be picked up 2 years after the trash was removed and trunk liner.

We are asked to believe that Caylee drowned in her pool and that no one attempted CPR or called authorities because both GA and KC were sure Caylee was dead and were so afraid of Cindy Anthony they both decided it would be better to let her body rot someplace and pretend like nothing happened. RATHER than believe that KC was the last to be seen with a live Caylee, that she only knows what happened, that her car has evidence of a dead caylee in it, that she alone dumped the body and she alone worked to cover it up.

We are to believe that a stranger somehow figured out where Caylee's body was first decomposing and stole the body, kept it with him until a reward was announced then set up the tape and resting place in the woods so that he could become rich and famous (which he has not to this day become either).

We are to believe that a girl who claims she was horridly molested by her father decided to protect him, cover up the drowning for 3 years, sit in jail and continue to follow his lead even when she was out on bond and able to tell what happened and face a lesser charge if any and have him arrested for molestation as well.

I can go on and on - the defense is asking the jury to REACH for the bizarre rather than common sense and the evidence. I have seen NO REASONABLE DOUBT.

Well Mendara your post certainly made my day. Thanks

JSR
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
Baez, like his client, will never accept responsibility for his actions.

It's always someone else ... now it's the wife of this witness. And Ms. Medina. I'd walk if I were Ms. Medina.

Liz
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
Baez is trying his best to obfuscate matters, hoping to cover his own butt, with leading questions, at that. :rolleyes:

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 11:11 AM
It's never a good thing when a lawyer is talking to his own witness like this, to try to prove that the lawyer did his job. Unbelievable.

sorrell skye
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
So JB expected Ms. Eikelenboom to be his messenger/secretary??!!

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
IMO, this is not the doctor's fault, it's Baez's for not keeping him in the loop. I'm disgusted, and now he's trying to blame his own witness' wife.

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
JB will throw Michelle Medina under the bus to save his own arse.
Not to mention the Dr's wife as well!!

Jetaime
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
#CaseyAnthony Baez claiming others participated in early conversations/deflecting blame from himself for lack of report as ordered.
by bobkealing via twitter at 10:11 AM

HotButteredGrits
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
None of these questions by Baez are going to mean anything to the Judge. You could tell by the tone of his response to JA's deposition. Almost like "I'll allow it because it doesn't matter".

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
EVEN IF (and I mean IF) he WAS told to write a report, it still falls on JB to follow-up and say 'we didn't get a report from you.' JB KNEW HE DIDN'T HAVE A REPORT.

Liz
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
MarkNeJame

#CaseyAnthony Defense's forensic botanist wasn't "rooted" in reality. She "leaves" many things out. Sorry...couldn't help myself.
15 minutes ago via HootSuite
Retweeted by CaseSignal and 11 others

kathyn2
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
So first Baez blames the courts orders and not being good orders and then he blames the witnesses wife!! Everyone is at fault but him for not telling the witness he had to do a report. And this helps Baez, how???

Stella5
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
JB is just making himself look really, really incompetent. Does he not realize that he is responsible for making contact with his witnesses, not relying on spouses, children, dogs or squirrels to pass on his messages?

GetSmart
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
I had to do something ...Is the Jury present?

FaerieB
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
anthonycase WOFL
Just saw lead detective Yuri Melich in the hallway. He could testify this afternoon. #caseyanthony #fox35

JSR
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
HHJP just caught one in Orlando. :D

More like he caught a snake.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
Baez claiming others participated in early conversations/deflecting blame from himself for lack of report as ordered.
by bobkealing via twitter at 10:11 AM

Baez asks if he was ever asked to leave something out of report? No. Baez asks if what he submitted was what he thought was required. Yes.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 10:11 AM

Jury is not back yet. Judge and attorneys asking dr Eikelenboom abt if/when requested to write report on case incl his opinion
by abcashleigh via twitter at 10:11 A

Amster
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
Medina, the wife, the judge....ALL a huge conspiracy against ICA. In the meantime, the jury waits.

MessySanders
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
HHJP just caught one in Orlando. :D

We have coyotes in Orlando, as well as bobcats and foxes - in residential areas. Hell, I had a bear in my backyard!

Novice Seeker
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
Who is Michelle Medina?

an attorney who works with Baez. She, in previous hearings, baby sat ICA during side bars.

chasing.halos
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
Good morning friends :) I haven't been writing much because what I would write would give me time outs for sure. So I will just be reading and listening, trying to get this bag off my head while I am eating raw hamburger, sitting next to Zanny and chatting with a talking dog.
***Justice for Caylee***
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/hash/c9/6a/Caylee%20Anthony%2025_3.jpg

2goldfish
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
how did ICA ever in the world find the one lawyer who would lie and avoid responsibility every bit as much as she has done?

Serjen
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
If HHJP lets the testimony of this witness in, I'll be pissed. When did Defense start working on this case? Last week? Why does State have to follow the rules and JB keeps getting off easy.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense dna expert says defense never told him about court order to write a report until Saturday when they tried to force a deposition.
4 minutes ago

HotButteredGrits
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
@RichardHornsby
Watching #CaseyAnthony attorney Jose Baez commit career suicide on national TV is an unpleasant experience...

pjmale
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
I had to do something ...Is the Jury present?

No they are still on recess.

Fluffy Puppy
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
How did this guy prepare a power point presentation on his opinions if he didn't have an opinion prior to this?

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 11:13 AM
JA refused witness entrance.

I don't blame him a bit.

Quiche
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
How many times has lightning struck thus far?

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
More like he caught a snake.

:snake:

technicalconfusion
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
Has the Dr. been on the stand all day?

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
I feel bad for this guy. Why is his wife involved? So JB wants us to consider a witness that on Friday developed his opinions on this case?

JB should have had his drowning/Kronk theory together months before the trial if he had then he would not be in this position.

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
"Was he polite?" - JB

JB, I wasn't aware that you were the shining paragon of politeness.

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
"Was he polite?"
Seriously JB? He gets to ask that question?

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
Honestly, does it even matter whether JA was polite?!

Beyond Belief
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
its time for JB to get out of the sandbox

Stella5
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
LOL... so now it's JA's fault because he doesn't carry around a court reporter in his back pocket for witnesses who show up on Father's Day unannounced for depositions. JB is... well... I'll sit on my hands so I don't get a TO.

8truthseeker8
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
In my opinion, I think that once Baez realized that the case was beyond repair, he decided to focus his attention on trying to obtain a mistrial. I think that he is so pompous that he isn't even concerned if he is disbarred because he has made a name for himself with this trial.

pcrum12
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
Have you ever fed your dogs raw meat, bone and all? If so, what was left? My dogs ate and digested bone and all.

ETA: Don't feed your dogs cooked bones.

Actually, I've had a dog that bured all sorts of bones, both from meat I fed him and other animal bones, all over our 60 acres farm we lived at at the time. We would find them all over when we plowed our many garden spots lol.

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
JA should ask 'what do you consider polite?'

BigFatMommyDog
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
I am going to lose it.

JSR
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
JB is incredulous. Especially about JA. He HAS to get in a dig that JA might have been rude.

Amster
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
JB is just plain rude....and HHJP allows it.

GiantPickle
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
ITA and no she is not getting it. That's for sure city!!

I agree with you. Casey couldn't possibly understand what is wrong with her team...I can't quite understand it myself. Everyone keeps giving Mason credit for being a fabulous lawyer but I can't understand why he is so "absent" during the proceedings.

Linda7NJ
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
Jeff was rude...:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

I'm rude when someone shows up at my door unannounced

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
This is so silly - JA was somewhat rude?

Who cares this is the 11th HOUR

TiaM
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
Baez! It DOES NOT MATTER if Ashton was polite or not THIS LAST SATURDAY. This is about YOU not following a COURT ORDER!!!

You <unusual person>!!!!!!!!!

wonders
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
That's right Baez throw everyone under the bus except yourself!

technicalconfusion
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
JB wants it known that JA was a meanie on Sunday...

Americka
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
how did ICA ever in the world find the one lawyer who would lie and avoid responsibility every bit as much as she has done?

Kindred spirits...:loser:

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
I don't see why this guy is being put through this - the problem lies with JB, not him.

Mamabear1963
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
@RichardHornsby
Watching #CaseyAnthony attorney Jose Baez commit career suicide on national TV is an unpleasant experience...


:floorlaugh:

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
I want Miss Manners to be called as an expert witness to determine if JA was actually polite or not.

FaerieB
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.

Elphaba
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
What a horrible way to be introduced to the US judiciary system for this witness, given his foreign status and just moving here. This is all of Baez's fault...

Liz
06-21-2011, 11:15 AM
bobkealing

#CaseyAnthony Baez claiming others participated in early conversations/deflecting blame from himself for lack of report as ordered.
2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

IMO, Baez has picked up a few bad habits from his client. As the saying says, lie down with dogs, ya gonna pick up some fleas. Just sayin ...

GiantPickle
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
Can someone explain to me what they hell the DT did to prepare for this trial over the past three years?!?! Everything seems to have been done this week !

jane the dood
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
"Was he polite?" - JB

JB, I wasn't aware that you were the shining paragon of politeness.

I hear ya!

liltexans
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
Baez asks about being turned away by Ashton. Baez asks about Ashton's demeanor- Eikelenboom says "rude" Ashton laughs and shakes head no.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 10:14 AM

Judge says he will consider attorney sanctions after this voire dire in #caseyanthony
by abcashleigh via twitter at 10:14 AM

Baez claiming others participated in early conversations/deflecting blame from himself for lack of report as ordered.
by bobkealing via twitter at 10:11 AM

Oakley
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retria

BritsKate
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
That's it! JA should be strung up, drawn and quartered for being rude to an unexpected deposition witness showing up unannounced at his office over the weekend after not submitting a report per judge's orders.

Yep, I'm buying that. ;)

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
The fact that Baez is trying to shift the blame is absolutely telling about his character, IMO. He's lead council, FGS, it's his job to make sure everything gets done on time, according to Court orders, etc.

ExpectingUnicorns
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
Didn't I hear HHJP say within the past few days that JB was supposed to notify the court of any new opinions, no matter how late? So, JB's "just finding out" is still not an excuse, right?

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
OH MY - Witness says the information JB gave him on Saturday was NEW information to him because he had not followed the case before Saturday.

WHA????

GOODBYE - please leave. MO

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:16 AM
JA rude? :denied:

taysmommy
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
OMG! I don't believe what I just heard. A dog buried the bone. You just can't make this stuff up.

Maybe it was Bones the cadaver dog?!? :innocent:

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
Nothing was 'new' last Friday.

newsjunkie
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
I had to do something ...Is the Jury present?

not yet

babycat
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
Jeff was rude...:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

I'm rude when someone shows up at my door unannounced

Southern belle here...we're just nice to to your face, then roll our eyes when we shut the door. Bless his hawwwwrt!

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
JB is just plain rude....and HHJP allows it.

It will save him the trouble of having to bring his own rope to the hanging.

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
:floorlaugh:

I love you, Richard Hornsby.

Liz
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
bobkealing

#CaseyAnthony Baez claiming others participated in early conversations/deflecting blame from himself for lack of report as ordered.
5 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

IMO, Baez has picked up a few bad habits from his client. As the saying says, lie down with dogs, ya gonna pick up some fleas. Just sayin ...


#CaseyAnthony Echelenboom: If asked I could have prepared a report. That's exactly what the Judge ordered Baez to do. Not good.
by bobkealing via twitter at 8:16 AM

O.M.G. Not good at all, mr Baezzzz :waitasec:

JusticeSeeker1960
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
I have a couple of questions for Baez, "Is ICA that important to you?" "Why are you willing to fall on the sword for her and risk your career?"

No one would risk everything if there wasn't something even better at the end of it all! jmo

I've often wondered the same thing! It doesn't make sense that after all the attempts to pass the board and now because of this case, take a chance of throwing it all down the drain.....

HotButteredGrits
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
@RichardHornsby

Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.

reeseeva
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
What a pathetic display Baez put s on, an INSULT to the Court and the intelligence of ALL

debloree
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
JA was rude? lol

smeck
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
I believe this witness and his wife both work together. It seems very logical that the wife would talk to the defense in this case.

redkatrampant
06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
OH EM GEE. My lands. He JUST got the FBI reports on FRIDAY?? ANd had lunch with JB on sat and got info??

No wonder Ja said no.

HotButteredGrits
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
I say he's out.

technicalconfusion
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Watching Baez blame another person for his violations #caseyAnthonytrialsmackdown. Happening NOW!
50 seconds ago
Pamela
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Is Baez trying to say this was a mix up between the wife & Medina? Either way, the defense had his 'affidavit' & knew it was lacking
1 minute ago
Pamela
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
OH! Maybe this was @Caldwell's point. Baez is going after HHJP's requirements for reports etc. for ALL experts
3 minutes ago
Pamela
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Baez is asking if this is the first time Eik's been given perimeter's like "this" on a court case

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
JB with arms crossed like a kid in front of the principal.

BritsKate
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
Oh. My. Godiva Chocolate.

RE didn't even get reports from Baez until Saturday? How could he form any opinion without them?

Kat
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
Here comes the whoopin. Perry citing case law

cityslick
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.

As horrible as that sounds, I truly believe that's not out of the question.

Scamperoo
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
Because dogs do not bury such rare finds in the area they are discovered, they take them back to their own turf or stash area and bury them. Apart from which canine bite marks would be all over the bone and we would know all about it.

[Quote] Pcrum12
I don't understand why everyone thinks that a dog possibly burying a bone is so outragious???? It is the SA theory that this was a trash dump site. Dogs do hunt out such site and dogs do bury bones. It is also the SA theory and evidence that the bones were scattered BY ANIMALS. What is so outragious?
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goldleaf
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.

From his mouth to God's ear, please end this farce and appoint a public defender who will at least give her a decent defense

gibby207
06-21-2011, 11:18 AM
I smell a smackadoodle comin....

JenniferTx
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
I believe Baez is trying to make himself the center of attention now. He is trying to steal the spotlight from Casey now. Wow what a pair those two would make as a couple.

TortillaChip
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.

omg, I hope not. I don't think JP wants to do this, he has tried so hard not to retry, or even have an appellate issue.:maddening:

GetSmart
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
In my opinion, I think that once Baez realized that the case was beyond repair, he decided to focus his attention on trying to obtain a mistrial. I think that he is so pompous that he isn't even concerned if he is disbarred because he has made a name for himself with this trial.
I just sent a text to my BFF stating that very same thing !!

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
Can JP remove JB and let CM continue?

Hamsterdance
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
@RichardHornsby
Watching #CaseyAnthony attorney Jose Baez commit career suicide on national TV is an unpleasant experience...

IMO I'm rather enjoying it :floorlaugh:

Kat
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
I'm on the edge of my seat here. I feel nauseous. OMG

uklaw
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
JB is incredulous. Especially about JA. He HAS to get in a dig that JA might have been rude.

TBH you are correct. But both sides have been engaging in this types of gamesmanship (JA and JB).

I know everyone here loves the prosecution and hates the defense but I take an objective view. An example of the prosecution's games was Ashton's comment about Baez's texting. I am sure that I need give no examples to the memebrs of this board of Baez's gamesmanship.


Both sides should just cut this out

ZsaZsa
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
IMO, this is not the doctor's fault, it's Baez's for not keeping him in the loop. I'm disgusted, and now he's trying to blame his own witness' wife.

I would be livid if I were Dr E. He has flown in from Holland, hung around for a few days, without any reports from the FBI on which to base his opinions, told to hop on over to do an unscheduled depo with JA, was then abruptly sent away... he is being made to look like a doofus by JB and once again JB lies to weasel out of not being prepared, and perfectly willing to lie to the Court re what his witnesses have been asked to submit opinions on. He is unbelievable.

momtective
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
I hope they take Baez out in cuffs...I hope he's held in contempt and jailed today!

1tasha
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
Let's blame the women...the wife and the secretary... Dr E and JB have no responsibility here as to the report. One can't exclude anything from any report that they were never asked to report.

I'm sorry, but I thought the point of CM was to sort of check JB's work?

tragco
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
This has got to scare these DT witnesses to find out that Baez willfully did not follow a court order. This witness has just moved here to the US recently too.

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
Is this the third smackdown day in a row?

Oakley
06-21-2011, 11:19 AM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
I don't know if I can keep watching Baez do this to everyone. It is sickening

Reality Orlando
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
We have coyotes in Orlando, as well as bobcats and foxes - in residential areas. Hell, I had a bear in my backyard!

Yep, lots of animals not often associated with Orlando. Heck, I was at a four way stop yesterday with a horse/rider and watched a tractor trailer wait for a family of chickens to cross the road yesterday before he could move once his light turned green.

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
JB is going to go find a court case that has to do with the prosecutor being rude. :giggle:

Soulmagent
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
Baez asks about being turned away by Ashton. Baez asks about Ashton's demeanor- Eikelenboom says "rude" Ashton laughs and shakes head no.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 10:14 AM

Judge says he will consider attorney sanctions after this voire dire in #caseyanthony
by abcashleigh via twitter at 10:14 AM

Baez claiming others participated in early conversations/deflecting blame from himself for lack of report as ordered.
by bobkealing via twitter at 10:11 AM

Ashton has been alledged to have been rude, telling witness who showed up to get their depo taken to get out he didnt have time.

No link heard it on TV!:waitasec:

Dr.Fessel
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
After he is sentenced on all the contempt charges Jose will make a great jailhouse lawyer.

DesSands
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
Does HHJP mean reduce or produce? He's confusing Doc E with that question and there is a difference.:waitasec:

Liz
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
RichardHornsby

Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.
5 minutes ago via Twitter for Android from Orlando, FL

Watching #CaseyAnthony attorney Jose Baez commit career suicide on national TV is an unpleasant experience...
10 minutes ago via Twitter for Android from Orlando, FL

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
I don't think JB is doing this on purpose to cause a mistrial or get her an appeal. I think JB developed his theory really late in the game and is such a bad lawyer that he did not bother to understand the rules of this court and thought he could get these witness to testify to his NEW theory and not have to go back and reflect this info in the reports or depos.

MO

adb263
06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
What we need is a JB cam!!!

Please everyone take copious notes as I have to take DS to orthodontist!!!
No appts for weeks and now during THIS day have one!!! eeeewkkkkkk

Cubby
06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
I see JB is on again. Been cleaning....... and TG my son decided to come downstairs after 2 hours and watch TV on here. He is watching something called Fish Hooks which is imo FAR better than watching/listening to JB.

I'm honestly done with JB until this goes to closing statements. I have lost all tolerance to listen to the man. When he is on I'll catch up reading here and there.

wundermommy76
06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
"Was he polite?" - JB

JB, I wasn't aware that you were the shining paragon of politeness.

I loved the Dr.'s pause though....as if he had to quick come up with a negative response to that question because he knew he had already cooked Mr. Baez's goose!

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
JA was rude? lol

Do I see the beginnings of a grin on LDB?!!

BetteDavisEyes
06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
Baez and Casey deserve one another as they are woven from the same fabric.

momtective
06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
:cheer: HHJP :cheer:

Mohabi
06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
Did anyone notice that the witness seemed taken aback when HHJP started asking him questions, or was I imagining things?

Fluffy Puppy
06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
Sanctions!!?

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
IMO, this is not the doctor's fault, it's Baez's for not keeping him in the loop. I'm disgusted, and now he's trying to blame his own witness' wife.

Just like he's blaming the accused father instead of accepting responsbility for their OWN actions...

He's also blaming he courts order as unclear or biase due to perimeters he needed to include in what he will testify to...

I believe Baez did willfully deceive the court...he might get slapped down...

cloud9
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.

WHAT??? I've about had enough of all these delays, etc.

Mamabear1963
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
@RichardHornsby

Next time #CaseyAnthony defense asks for mistrial, Judge Perry may just grant it, hold Baez in contempt, & appoint pub defender for retrial.


Can we hope?????:fence:

Lanie
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
What a horrible way to be introduced to the US judiciary system for this witness, given his foreign status and just moving here. This is all of Baez's fault...

This is not Eikenbaum's (sp) first time in the US judiciary system. I've actually seen him on at least one of the true crime shows on TV.

Also, his wife works with him in the lab, and if I'm not mistaken is just as qualified and educated as he is in this field, so it's not like she's some vapid housewife who has no clue on what is going on and just spends her time watching soap operas. (And this is not a dig at housewives, this is addressing JB's attempt to blame this mess on the wife.)

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
I think CM needs a good dressing down too. He is supposed to be onboard to raise the level.

Robyn623
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
I see JB is on again. Been cleaning....... and TG my son decided to come downstairs after 2 hours and watch TV on here. He is watching something called Fish Hooks which is imo FAR better than watching/listening to JB.

I'm honestly done with JB until this goes to closing statements. I have lost all tolerance to listen to the man. When he is on I'll catch up reading here and there.

But...you don't want to miss a JB smackdown do you? I think it makes it all worth sitting through this testimony.

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
Here it comes, folks.

Serjen
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
"This violation is not inadvertent"

QueenD
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
Did HHJP tell JB to stand at podium? Why is he standing there? For his spanking?

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
“violation not inadvertent"

Kenziema
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
What does it mean to impeach a witness? I know it means to find differences in their statments, but what happens if a witness is impeached?

Just K
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
Love how HJBP says "again" three times...

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
As horrible as that sounds, I truly believe that's not out of the question.

Scary IMO.

nomoresorrow
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
If there is an acquittal, would Casey be allowed out on bail pending the next trial?

Z-sleuth
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
HHJP finds the violation was not inadvertant, but willful.

Moe
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
Does anyone think ICA understands what is happening to her case?

GreenTeam
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
This violation is not inadvertant, should have been clearly communicated with expert...therefore discovery violation was (willful?) and not inadvertant...

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
The problem is in December 2010 JB did not have the Kronk/Drowning/Bad daddy defense in hand. MO

BritsKate
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
HHJP must get so weary of repeating himself...over and over and over and over and over...

and over again. Poor HHJP. :(

pipkins
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
KBelichWFTV:
Baez is shifting on his feet as the Chief Judge is making ruling by reminding Baez how many times he was ordered to disclose expert opinions

Bullwinkle
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
RichardHornsby‎ RT @SarahMaura:

"Casey Anthony trial has officially become a trial within a trial. Atty Baez is also on trial now."

Twitter - 1 minute ago

Cubby
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
JB with arms crossed like a kid in front of the principal.


I will be honest. I wish JB could be benched for a flagrant foul. I wish he could be fined like a professional sports player. he gets on my ever lasting last nerve. Sorry, that will be the last of my ranting about JB.

Drama Queen
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
willfull! and not inadvertant. Somebody in major trouble here.
Guess who?

FaerieB
06-21-2011, 11:23 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Baez is shifting on his feet as the Chief Judge is making ruling by reminding Baez how many times he was ordered to disclose expert opinions

BigFatMommyDog
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
willful not inadvertent

newsjunkie
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
TBH you are correct. But both sides have been engaging in this types of gamesmanship (JA and JB).

I know everyone here loves the prosecution and hates the defense but I take an objective view. An example of the prosecution's games was Ashton's comment about Baez's texting. I am sure that I need give no examples to the memebrs of this board of Baez's gamesmanship.


Both sides should just cut this out

I think I can objectively say that JB texting while HHJP is speaking is rude and disrespectful to not only the judge and opposing counsel, but the jury as well.

JA pointing it out was snarky, but not gamesmanship IMO. JA gets annoyed by everything JB gets away with, as do we all.

This isn't about letting the State off for bad behavior. We are amazed they are keeping their cools as well as they are.

Mountain_Kat
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
Oh man...HHJP is going to allow the testimony?

pipkins
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
KBelichWFTV:
Chief Judge says Baez's violation was willful, substantial

Stella5
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
While we're waiting on HHJP to rule on this witness....

My husband just announced that he's going to form a class action suit to sue all involved in airing the ICA trial because it only reinforces my addictive behavior about this case, takes up all my household duty time so I get nothing done, it alienates my affection because I'd rather hear from HHJP than him most of the time, and it will increase my health care costs due to my blood pressure rising. He welcomes other WS significant others to join him. LMAO!!!

Z-sleuth
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
The court finds the violation was not trivial, but substantial.

wundermommy76
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
I don't think JB is doing this on purpose to cause a mistrial or get her an appeal. I think JB developed his theory really late in the game and is such a bad lawyer that he did not bother to understand the rules of this court and thought he could get these witness to testify to his NEW theory and not have to go back and reflect this info in the reports or depos.

MO

That may very well be true. But, he does have other more experienced lawyers working with him on this case.....why hasn't ANY of them (even the newer lawyers helping with this case) explained to Mr. Baez how the system works and what he can and can not do?? That makes no sense to me.....they are all commiting career suicide at this point!

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
It doesn't even flipping matter if Ashton was rude; it's not even comparable to Beaz's blundering, which is screwing over his own client.

Ashton could have been syrupy sweet on Saturday and the result would still have been the same - Baez trying to dance his way out of defying HHJP. Again.

I hope Perry throws the book at him!

ZsaZsa
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
I don't think JB is doing this on purpose to cause a mistrial or get her an appeal. I think JB developed his theory really late in the game and is such a bad lawyer that he did not bother to understand the rules of this court and thought he could get these witness to testify to his NEW theory and not have to go back and reflect this info in the reports or depos.

MO

He is just a liar through and through. Everything else he has done follows from that.

FaerieB
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
kc is barely paying attention. She isn't looking at HHJP or Baez but seems to be doing her blanked stare into the room in front of HHJP
14 seconds ago

Dr.Fessel
06-21-2011, 11:24 AM
But, but, but your honor, Mr. Ashton was rude!!!!

Sleuths4Me
06-21-2011, 11:25 AM
If there is an acquittal, would Casey be allowed out on bail pending the next trial?

no if there is an acquittal she goes free a la OJ

Tipstaff
06-21-2011, 11:25 AM
After he is sentenced on all the contempt charges Jose will make a great jailhouse lawyer.

Usually I agree with you Dr. Fessel - but when it comes to Jose Baez there will never be anything great about him.:banghead::banghead:

Liz
06-21-2011, 11:25 AM
MarkNeJame

Judge enters Order re: witnesses. Lawyers receive Order. Lawyers distribute Order. Orders are not to be ignored. Why are they? #caseyanthony
8 minutes ago via web
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