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Beyond Belief
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
accepted.............

cityslick
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
Accepted as an expert witness.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
A couple jurors (11 & 12) look amused by the back and forth. A couple (5 & 17) look annoyed. The others have no reaction.
by stevehelling via twitter at 10:51 AM

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
poop...accepted as DNA expert

Cubby
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
Thank you MissJames! :blowkiss:

OT I quit smoking 8 months ago (after a decades long habit) and flippin' Baez is making me want one so bad today LOL Hah!



Don't Baez isn't worth it. Remind yourself if you pick up just one you will be right back. I quit for 8 mo's once and went back.... :( So if I must I will smoke one for ya!

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
"Expert in being able to identify issues on all types of dna" - WTH does that mean?

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
HHJP allowed him in....:banghead:

PassTheMotrin
06-21-2011, 11:53 AM
I think Baez is anxious to break for lunch so he can address those CD's the prosecution gave him earlier...

wenwe4
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Dr. E....testified in US twice by defense and once by LE - setting up a lab in Colorado - Netherlands lab - interpretation and statistics and whole field....actual recovery of evidence thru the court you have received training....accredited training? part of accrediation procedure - experience in dna analysis...reporting officer - you have know all about dna - in Netherlands lab became so big .... you don't have to process....reporting done by officer - lab techs process the evidence....fair to say receive training on all aspects of dna - over 20 years - certified 70 times in Netherlands and 3 times in US - certify dna analysis -

JB proposes expert witness
JA same objection

HHBP - witness will be allowed as an expert in dna analysis

break for lunch

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
so what I am getting from this is that this guy is trying to open up a lab and very well may just testify in favor of the defense in order to be recognized as an expert in a high profile case?

If I were on the jury I would be wondering why this is such struggle with the defense trying to present their case and not so witht he state.

MO

kathyn2
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
If I were a jury I would not consider this guy much of an expert. I don't think I would believe much of what he says either.

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Baez never uses Your Honor...only Judge to me is so disrespectful...time for lunch recess...back at 1:30....

mombomb
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
SIDEBAR OVER at 11:49

DIRECT EXAMINATION OF RICHARD EIKELENBOOM BY JB:

OBJECTION SUSTAINED

He has given testimony in US. State of Colorado - three times, twice by Defense, once by LE

Setting up lab in Colorado

His National Lab at Netherlands Forensic Institute training included DNA.

He has experience in all different aspects of DNA received in his training for reporting officer.

JB submitted expert in DNA analsys. JA objected.

HHJBP - witness is accepted.

Lunch recess (11:53)

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
The way JP just answered JB's question about breaking for lunch, JB has to be willfully blind if he doesn't get just how unhappy the judge is with him. Made me scared!

Stella5
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Lunch break for the jurors... now we get to hear JB's issues with the two DVD's... this will be fun!

Oakley
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
This "Dr" has less than the equivalent of a masters degree. How is that?

STEADFAST
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
At least this guy seems fairly pleasant. Also, there's a possibility he won't try to lie when JA questions him. (Although he did say he met with Baez on Saturday to see what direction they were to go in.)

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Dumb question but is the jury in the room right now?

yes they are they just left for lunch

Kat
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Baez raising issue with court.

Talina
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
I can't believe HHBP accepted this witness as an expert.

MissJames
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
I totally agree. She dug her heels in after being advised over and over to seek a new attorney. You made your bed ICA...

She has a lot of attorneys,not just JB.

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Lunch break. But, Mr Baez, "No lunch for you"

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
I'll just die if he doesn't come back after lunch! :lol:

CementPond
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
Gee, if only we could all appoint ourselves fancy-shcmancy titles and get away with it. Sheesh.

concentric
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
Exactly. And I think that when an appeal is made for ineffective counsel this will be taken into consideration along with JP's many efforts to school Baez and allow certain things (such as a frye hearing in the middle of this trial) to prevent a guilty verdict being overturned. Hopefully!!!!:twocents:

I woke up this morning with a thought in my head about: "Dr. Frye" and I didn't know what it meant, but now I do.

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
Ohhhhhhh Ohhhhhhhhhhh Ohhhhhhhhhhhh

new evidence from the state

Oakley
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
The way JP just answered JB's question about breaking for lunch, JB has to be willfully blind if he doesn't get just how unhappy the judge is with him. Made me scared!

Really? I was surprised at just how pleasant and friendly the judge was toward JB just then.

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
She doesnt know any better.

I dont know if she will get a do over but I do think she deserves one.
As a Florida taxpayer - I say if she does get a "do-over" that she pays for it herself. We have coughed up way too much of our public funds to defend this baby killer.

Our people are hurting and this million plus could have certainly been put to much better use.

I'll never understand how she was declared indigent when she made $200k plus on selling out her dead daughter's pictures and videos.

But that is all JMHO

magnolia
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
If there is an acquittal, would Casey be allowed out on bail pending the next trial?

If there is an acquittal, there won't be another trial. Maybe you're thinking about mistrial?? In that case, KC will remain in jail pending another trial. IMO

Bobbarita
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
Looks like only the jury is getting lunch today...

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
I hope River Cruz aka KH brought a good book with her.

She's not answering my pm so I'm hoping she did!

TiaM
06-21-2011, 11:55 AM
Baez now pontificating in his long-suffering, whiny voice. :loser:

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
JB just doesn't get it.....he tries to blame the state for HIS OWN misgivings.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
JB is now trying to get the state in trouble. Will it work?

TortillaChip
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
rut-roh, I wonder why not turned in earlier?

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
How could the State have completed a report in April 2008? Did JB just say that?

Dr.Fessel
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
Report made on april 2008?

Liz
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
bobkealing

#CayleeAnthony Perry accepts witness as expert for DNA analysis. Lunch for jury.
1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone

CaseyAnthonyCh9

Court is in recess until 1:30pm. #CaseyAnthony
1 minute ago via web

Donjeta
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
Did he just complain that something was turned over two months later than the report was completed in 2008???

Bullwinkle
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
"Coming up after the break: Two monkeys ride a tandem bicycle, and biker chicks duke it out in our *exclusive* coleslaw tub. After that, we'll hear from River Cruz."

What'sThatClue
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
Photos of shot girls may have been at one time viewed on the A's computer--JB

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
"It appears there are photos of--shot girls," JB.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:56 AM
Report made on april 2008?

yeah he already lost this fight

RiverRat
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
Huh?! The report on the Anthonys computer regarding July 16, 2008 was completed in APRIL of 2008?!

suzihawk
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
Oh, please. Baez just does not know when to STFU. Now he's just trying to play tit for tat, here.

Stella5
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
Computer search photos for shot girls on June 16th? Interesting... searching for pics of that before or after ICA decided to kill Caylee.

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
JB gets in trouble. So, now he is trying to get JA in trouble. Sound familiar? :waitasec:

ZsaZsa
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
This "Dr" has less than the equivalent of a masters degree. How is that?

He is not a Dr. You have to have a Ph.D or MD degree to title yourself Dr.
He has a Science degree and many years of DNA analysis experience.

tragco
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
Ah, some lunchtime entertainment from Baez. He was given discovery, two CD's. Baez says one CD has to deal with some material from the desktop computer from the Anthony home taken 6/16/08. Report was completed in April but just turned in.. interent searches..etc. etc. photos of shotgirls are in there, Baez trying to discredit the state.

Oakley
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
MarkNeJame Mark NeJame
#JudgePerry's ruling to accept DNA expert shows he is not favoring one side over the other. #CaseyAnthony #Caylee #HLNTV #VinniePolitan

Bobbarita
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
As a Florida taxpayer - I say if she does get a "do-over" that she pays for it herself. We have coughed up way too much of our public funds to defend this baby killer.

Our people are hurting and this million plus could have certainly been put to much better use.

I'll never understand how she was declared indigent when she made $200k plus on selling out her dead daughter's pictures and videos.

But that is all JMHO

Amen to that! I am a "New Floridian" (resident for 1 year) and it is totally ridiculous. Along with Rick Scott, but I won't go there...

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 11:57 AM
I don't know how much more of this trial I can take. I just want KC to get a fair trial, which will hopefully result in her being in prison for the rest of her life.

Baez's career is over after this trial, IMO, but I'm convinced he doesn't care.

What'sThatClue
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
JB asking for a Richardson hearing unless the State does not intend to use the info

AnotherGladysKravitz
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
They're not relevant until they do become relevant. huh?

Mendara
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
A lot of hoopla coming out of JB's mouth - not making sense. He needs to soend more time on his case rather than trying to find something on the state to tattle about to the judge.

Kat
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
Trying to object to computer items? Which items is he talking about (he does have me confused---and go ahead and smoke one for me, I refuse to smoke because of Baez haha)

LancelotLink
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
Ah, some lunchtime entertainment from Baez. He was given discovery, two CD's. Baez says one CD has to deal with some material from the desktop computer from the Anthony home taken 6/16/08. Report was completed in April but just turned in.. interent searches..etc. etc. photos of shotgirls are in there, Baez trying to discredit the state.

He said the report was completed April 2008????

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
I am so glad LDB is up. No more JA vs. JB. Mix up that dynamic, please.

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
OMG! JB has now heard the words "Richardson Hearing". Now he wants one about these pictures. :lol: You cannot make this stuff up!

AMMich
06-21-2011, 11:58 AM
Choosing NG over a movie? Isn't that grounds for a divorce right there? :floorlaugh:

But, but, she said she had a "BOMBSHELL"!

JSR
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
UGH JB must do tit for tat at every single turn huh?

LDB sounds exasperated.

Soulmagent
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
WS's are you sending in tips?

Dr.Fessel
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Oh this is good.

Oakley
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
He is not a Dr. You have to have a Ph.D or MD degree to title yourself Dr.
He has a Science degree and many years of DNA analysis experience.



Yes, here in the U.S. that is what we do but have they not been referring to him as "Dr Eikbloom?"

ZsaZsa
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
JB whining.
He reminds me of the kids in the back seat of the car on a long trip.
He is the one saying "he touched me first'.....

momtective
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
April Wayland or Whalen...

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Love Casey's face at being called "inmate".

Stella5
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
A citizen called OCSO with a tip about ICA having contact with another inmate having info on these CD's?!?! April Waylan? Her child died in a swimming pool & was found by the childs grandfather! OMG!!! Now we have the stories origin!

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
OMG. I did not know about April Whalen. Wow.

What'sThatClue
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Whalen is witness is mother of a child who drowned, was in an adjacent cell of CA, doesn't remember if she talked to ICA or not

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Omg!!!!

mistermissy
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Investigation by LE of inmate, April Whalen, who was in adjacent cell with ICA, who has a very similar story of child drowning personally...interesting...more to come...

Softail
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Man! ICA shaking her head no.

tragco
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Baez wants a Richardson hearing against the state now. He is like a child, he really is. LDB now clearing everything up.

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
OMG! That's where ICA got her story!

Blue Ridge
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Oh what LDB is saying here is VERY VERY interesting.

babycat
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
NO. OMG. NO. Am I hearing this right? About April Whalen? (spelling?)

Liz
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
LDB says a citizen called OCSO re: an inmate who may have been in contact with Casey

by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 8:58 AM

Inmate's name is April Whalen. IIUC, Whalen had a daughter who passed away in a drowning incident.
LDB is giving a GREAT rebuttal!

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Shaking her head no. She's priceless.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Oh my - a jailmate had the same story KC is claiming and had a cell next to KC.

OH SNAP.

Serjen
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Oh really..Casey's inmate friend had a child who died in a pool and the grandfather found him...how'd Casey think of this defense?

LadyL
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
omg omg omg April Whalen interview

JSR
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
That thud, yeah that was my jaw hitting the floor.

You gotta be kidding me. Does this inmates story sound familiar????

TiaM
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
OMG.

The Chameleon has morphed yet another person's story into her own!!!

Classic.

Priceless.

dog.gone.cute
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
:eek::eek::eek:

OMG ! Can this case get any STRANGER ?

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Inmates child drowned in a pool. Grandfather found body.

tragco
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
He said the report was completed April 2008????

That's what he said as I was typing, he just said April not the year, but LDB is clearing everything up.

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
AW an inmate called in a tip, said her child died in a swimming pool and the grandfather found him, she was is an adjacent cell to ICA....hmm

luv
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
http://i51.tinypic.com/2qtxzec.jpg

What'sThatClue
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Discovery is simply a filtered copy of hard drive that JB has had for years

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Yes, here in the U.S. that is what we do but have they not been referring to him as "Dr Eikbloom?"
Oh you're right!!

Camille
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Ah HA! This is where the drowning comes from. Another inmate in the same jail.

md89
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Man! ICA shaking her head no.

Most of the time that means that it is true what the state is saying :p

concentric
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
I can't believe HHBP accepted this witness as an expert.

I think HHJP just wants this trial to move along, so he was accepted, JMO.

JA will annihilate what he says. JMO.

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
BOMBSHELL...

April Weylan was in jail, her father the childs grandfather found the child unresponsive....so, is this where she got this idea of an alleged drowning that GA found Caylee???? Hmmmmm.....

Oakley
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Ah so Casey got her details of the 'drowning' accident story from a cell mate. These details were on JB's hard drive that he's had "for many years" per LDB.

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Wow JB. Are you glad you complained?

he obviously did not catch this.

ZsaZsa
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Yes, here in the U.S. that is what we do but have they not been referring to him as "Dr Eikbloom?"

I think HHJP might be referring to him as Dr out of habit, since most of the scientific witnesses have been Ph.D's
He is not a Dr in Holland either. He stated he has a science degree that is between a B.S and M.S.

aprilraindance
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
"Coming up after the break: Two monkeys ride a tandem bicycle, and biker chicks duke it out in our *exclusive* coleslaw tub. After that, we'll hear from River Cruz."
Hey have you been hanging out at the cabbage patch in Samsula??

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Pictures are meant to used as a rebuttal to what she was doing on the June 16th - which will rebutt a lot of what JB said in his opening statement.

JustMeDeb
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Uh oh ICA didn't like that. Back to shaking head. To me the shaking head says, "I cannot believe that girl sold me out."

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
State says they don't know if Wayland and #CaseyAnthony ever talked but Wayland talked w/ others inmates. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 11:00 AM

Linda Drane Burdick speaks of inmate who may have had contact with #CaseyAnthony, after call made to OCSO by a resident.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 10:59 AM

This witness is April Wayland (sp?) State says Wayland's son drowned in a pool and grandfather found son and called 911 immediately.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 10:59 AM

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
OMG! That's where ICA got her story!
Damn she is lazy!
She can't even come up with her own lies. :maddening:

Oakley
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
This witness is April Wayland (sp?) State says Wayland's son drowned in a pool and grandfather found son and called 911 immediately.

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
LDB says a citizen called Orange Co Sheriff's office last week saying #CaseyAnthony and this witness talked while that witness was in jail

strach304
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
OMG! That little liar is so busted again!

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 12:01 PM
LDB - My girl crush on you has never been bigger. You seriously rock.

RammerJammer
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Can I just say LDB rocks!!!!!!!!!!

Sleuths4Me
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Miss Anthony's cross examination...... Do you think she is going on the stand?

angeldust
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
sounds like kc stole another story from someone else and added it to her own ....

~PrinceSSa~
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Did she just say Ms Anthonys cross examination????

QueenD
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
She is going on the stand. Ms. Anthony rebuttal per LDB

Bobbarita
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
A citizen called OCSO with a tip about ICA having contact with another inmate having info on these CD's?!?! April Waylan? Her child died in a swimming pool & was found by the childs grandfather! OMG!!! Now we have the stories origin!

IMO this is AMAZING!

momtective
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Well now we know where the drowning story came from. :doh:

RammerJammer
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Why is DS acting like she doesn't know what she is doing?? or is it just me?


LDB - My girl crush on you has never been bigger. You seriously rock.


Great minds!!!!!

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Wait, wait, did KC crib that girl's story, or is it the other way about?

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
The state just showed a noticed to updates on an already submitted report. The new info on Whalen was just introduced to the state on Friday -t he reports were delivered as soon as it became available and was delivered.

sorry JOSE.

Tipstaff
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
So JB misrepresents to the court yet again!

kellter
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
I wonder if the state did this on purpose so JP can disallow confirming fair treatment knowing JB would try the tit for tat defense.

I Couldn't be more wrong, I absolutely love the state.

SevenSeas
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
I feel a thwart bomb brewing... :D

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
State also says they have information from Anthony computer to rebut #JoseBaez opening statements. she says defense has had for years.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 11:02 AM

Burdick said Baez has had use of CD in question for years. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 11:01 AM

Liz
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
Items #1 thru #6 all have to do with April Whalen as communicated to LCB by the OCSD last Saturday. And LDB delivered it to the defense as soon as she became aware.

Item #7 is a demonstrative aid which had previously been provided to the defense.

waltzingmatilda
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
Wonder what April Whalen is in jail for?

wm

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
Inmates child drowned in a pool. Grandfather found body.
BUT 911 was called immediately and the grandfather administered CPR - guess the DT decided to leave THAT PART out.

Softail
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
:lol: LDB - I would have assumed that counsel has concentrated.....

:laughcry:

RedSox Mom
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
omg! That's where ica got her story!

bingo!!!!

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
She is going on the stand. Ms. Anthony rebuttal per LDB

IF SHE GOES ont he stand IF. She won't now I bet.

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
I swear at this rate I will never get my laundry put away or finish any other housework until this trial ends.

Stella5
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
JB standing to the right of LDB and looks ticked!!! ICA knows she's been busted by the amazing SA team. Shooting daggers at LDB. Can this case get any stranger?

HOTNTX
06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
Jesus take the Wheel!!!! Am I hearing this right? An inmate, April Whalen (sp) had a child drown and her grandfather found her??? You can not make this sh.. up! Not under the influence of the most psychedelic drugs!!!!

I have no doubt this is where "Ms. Make Believe" got the idea to throw George under the bus from.

She just needs to sign her death certificate.

I am going to have to hit the Pinot Grigio before 12:30 today!!!

Leila
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Wow..............a concerned citizen report last week, a woman whose surname is April Whelan. Her child drowned in a pool accident and the grandfather found the child and tried to revive him/her. This woman was in jail earlier this year. She didn't hae any contact with KC but doesn't know if other inmates were in contact.

It sounds like KC lifted the drowning story from April Whelan.

coloradoteacher
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Wow. I love the SA and the OCSO!!! That is BOMBSHELL about April Weyland!

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Holy cow. Prosec says new discovery is about "April Whelan" an inmate near #caseyanthony cell who's child drowned and whos grampa did cpr!
by abcashleigh via twitter at 11:03 AM

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
BUT 911 was called immediately and the grandfather administered CPR - guess the DT decided to leave THAT PART out.

she only uses half truths.

strach304
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
LDB going to use cell phone pings and pc use for a timeline to place Casey at the home but not GA at the same time, imo. Been waiting for that. Knew JB would mess it up when he said in opening statement morning, afternoon, no we don't know, actually it was morning.

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
LDB talking about all the emails and calls they get with tips.

Liz
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Holy cow. Prosec says new discovery is about "April Whelan" an inmate near #caseyanthony cell who's child drowned and whos grampa did cpr!

by abcashleigh via twitter at 9:03 AM

JusticeSeeker1960
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Wow, even the inmates don't like this woman! Again, she took someone else's story & made it her own!

Sleuths4Me
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
April Wayland - a fellow inmate that her child died in her pool - found by inmates father, called 911 - spoke to Casey while in jail - SA got her statement.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Is GA and CA int he courtroom???

TortillaChip
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
The DT had the hard drive, but didn't get the info for june 16th. I don't think the DA should have to pay for this.

What'sThatClue
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
HHJB: Not a discovery violation

Nana46
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
How I wish the pop tart jury could hear this as it is soooo important.

Noddy
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
JB is clicking his pen! He knows that annoys LDB.

Wise Old Owl
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Miss Anthony's cross examination...... Do you think she is going on the stand?
I caught that too. I think LDB is counting on her taking the stand.

Sleuth5
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Thwartcakes and LiePies all around! Dessert Lady?

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Burdick said Whalen incident could be further investigated as to how it pertains to #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 11:04 AM

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Can someone please get a screen shot of Casey standing up next to DS at the end of this?

Liz
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
JP: Court rules that items 1 thru 6 are not a discovery violation.

Now moving to item #7

TiaM
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
That thud, yeah that was my jaw hitting the floor.

You gotta be kidding me. Does this inmates story sound familiar????

You may need to duct tape your mandible to hold it on as Dr. Spitz said! :floorlaugh:

Stella5
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Not a discovery violation... take that JB! State has a continuing duty to disclose information that becomes available to them and they have done that. Thwart!

dog.gone.cute
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
WOW ... I wasn't expecting this sort of "bombshell" this morning ...

:fireworks2::fireworks2::fireworks2::fireworks2:

azwriter
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Amen to that! I am a "New Floridian" (resident for 1 year) and it is totally ridiculous. Along with Rick Scott, but I won't go there...

It doesn't matter how long or short you've been a resident, each day in court Jose proves you are not getting your monies worth. Is there anything you can do about this? Letter of complaint to the State's Bar? It's your money.

jmo

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
JB learn from the state on procedure and discovery. Not a violation.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Judge is asking more about Wayland (it may be Whalen). He says no discovery violation w/ first 6 items. #CaseyAnthony #JudgePerry
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 11:05 AM

Burdick: may be something in it for use as rebuttal. Also may use substantial computer activity from Anthony home 6-16-08.
by bobkealing via twitter at 11:05 AM

What'sThatClue
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
JB now complaining about a "filtered version"

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Linda looks beautiful today.

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
Oh, JB, please don't attempt an analogy. It never goes well. Thousands of phone books?!

LancelotLink
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
Sorry, JB. You are blowing smoke.

Did JB just accuse the SA of going in a different direction????? Really??

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
Oh so now JB is complaining about the SA giving them TOO much info? lololol.

Sleuths4Me
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
sick sick sick KC

1tasha
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
Ah HA! This is where the drowning comes from. Another inmate in the same jail.

Didn't quite go down the way JB wanted it.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
prosec not necess planning to call april whelan.. But they are invesiatig her for rebuttal possibilities.
by abcashleigh via twitter at 11:05 AM

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
OMG, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, o -

*slaps self*

Donjeta
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
THey gave us a hard drive and I would equate it with giving us a phone book


FGS Jose... If you didn't look at Casey's computer activity on June 16th, the day Caylee drowned, that's on YOUR head.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
JB complaining the state gave them too much paper work to look through and find out the key info.

He again wants the state to do his work.

LAZY

GreenTeam
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
JB now using JP's order on experts in his own self-interest? LOL!

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
OMG! That little liar is so busted again!
HaHaha! Not to mention the computer activity that will debunk the happenings on June 16th.

Oakley
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Burdick: may be something in it for use as rebuttal. Also may use substantial computer activity from Anthony home 6-16-08.

BigFatMommyDog
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
"State didn't do my homework for me"

PassTheMotrin
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
Baez is trying so hard to implicate some sort of wrongdoing on the part of the state.

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
Perry: No discovery violation from state. Interesting possible rebuttal preview though.
by bobkealing via twitter at 11:06 AM

Liz
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
Hope this is okay to post. Mug shot of April Whalen. Please do not quote this post, until we know for sure if it is okay.

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/April_Whalen_4690079/

redkatrampant
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
JB" this is like giving us phonebooks and telling us to pick" ( paraphrased)

Yeah you don't have any wild goose chasing theories out there yourself.
I simply cannot watch anymore. He makes me ill.
I seriously do not think he realizes the laughingstock that he is.

QueenD
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
JB standing to the right of LDB and looks ticked!!! ICA knows she's been busted by the amazing SA team. Shooting daggers at LDB. Can this case get any stranger?

She hasn't taken here eyes off of SA.

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
I think it's safe to say that LDB just put the DT on notice.

Softail
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
This is so sad. JB saying that the SA is focusing in on a "story". Really JB? :waitasec: You made up the "story".

HotButteredGrits
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
JB saying "yeah we had it, but not in a format that's easy for us" ??

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
Well, yeah, duh, JB. Because of what you stated in your opening statement. Yeesh.

JSR
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
I'm going to scream!!!!!!!!!!

Does JB not know that the SA doesn't have to point to specific things in the discovery. THAT'S HIS JOB!!!!!!!

I had one case that we requested some documents from opposing counsel. In turn they sent us 52 boxes of material! 52!!!!! Guess who had to go through all those boxes looking for the 20 page report we really requested???? Yup me.

Litigation means work. JB STILL doesn't get that.

coloradoteacher
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
OMG JB is saying that there is no way we could have gone through all this evidence- so they can't pick a different piece of these thousands of paper so how could we know???
Are they really saying this? We didn't get a computer expert b/c they weren't going that direction? Is that an excuse???

ShadowGal
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Is he flipping kidding about this disk? His reality is so off I can't even put it into words. Or his BS factor, better put.

Camille
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Jb this argument isn't going to fly. You didn't do your homework and you missed something that you could have used for your defense.

Tiki
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
JB proll'y should not bring up following judge's orders or not

Stella5
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
LMAO! Jb whining that the state cannot use this and should focus on their original case of how Caylee died! He's the one who said Caylee drown! Yo Jose, you can't have your thwart cake & eat it too! This is priceless! You just can't make this stuff up!

Linda7NJ
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
How come Jose "understands" the court order as it pertains to the state...but not how it applies to himself:waitasec:

liltexans
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Deputy just stepped inside jury room. Judge Perry made #JoseBaez to stop talking while door was open. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 11:08 AM

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
so even if the state gives him all evidence he is still complaining because what the state was using is in too many pages for him to read? he should read EVERYTHING.

He is now complaining about the state switching gears mid trial? What about him switching theories 6 weeks before trial?

angeldust
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Can anyone tell me is it NORMAL to have the STATE do the DEFENCES work for them? seriously

JusticeSeeker1960
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
JB....here goes the pot & the kettle again.

Carolina Girl
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
I agree, he should have done his job.

grammieto5
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
BOMBSHELL...

April Weylan was in jail, her father the childs grandfather found the child unresponsive....so, is this where she got this idea of an alleged drowning that GA found Caylee???? Hmmmmm.....

Didn't this G-dad call 911

chasing.halos
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Wonder what April Whalen is in jail for?

wm

Google "April Whalen Mugshot" :)

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
I swear at this rate I will never get my laundry put away or finish any other housework until this trial ends.

Got my bedroom and master bathroom mopped and cleaned thanks to you guys giving such great detail during JB's antics. :D

BigFatMommyDog
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Scribbly data

2goldfish
06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Gee, if only we could all appoint ourselves fancy-shcmancy titles and get away with it. Sheesh.

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MissDiva
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
JB - please calm down. You aren't asked to take everything from the CD and draw or write it up on your jPad.

Dragonlady
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
JB should just shut up and stick to defending his client, every time he opens his mouth he inserts foot and opens the door a little wider for the SA, which is great for us but come on he is being paid to defend her.

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
BUT 911 was called immediately and the grandfather administered CPR - guess the DT decided to leave THAT PART out.

She truly is devious. If she presents the story as it actually happened to the other inmate, it doesn't seem believable if/when GA denies it. Why would he claim not to have done CPR? But if she asserts that GA simply berated her, and by implication pressured her not to administer life saving measures or call 911, ...well, that paints him as self-interested if he lies.

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
Thank you LDB.

Donjeta
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
Are they going for ineffective defense after all


If they're unable to look at the computer data on their own on the day that's significant for their defense without prompting from the state they're certainly selling Casey out.

JOse saying he said the exact hour is unknown in the OS,,

So he didn't bother to look at the computer records to find out what time Casey could have been finding a dead baby??

JustMeDeb
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
JB - It was scribbly data.

Translation - We have no clue how to read information from a computer

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
Baez: whine, whine. And, Judge, whine whine whinaroo. Whine. Now, the State whine whine whine.

barrysgirl
06-21-2011, 12:09 PM
Omg! He STILL wants them to do his job. GMADB

Kat
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
Oh do your job Baez. Lordy.

katydid23
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
The computer forensics disputes the DT timeline of 16th !!!!!!! YES.

GreenTeam
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
JB wants the state to do his work for him.

TotallyObsessed
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
JB: waaaa waaaaa waaaa

HHJP: Too bad

MissDiva
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
LOL I can't stop laughing at JB complaining about getting too much information.

Maybe JB should have been looking through this rather than studying up on DNA.

Wholehearted
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
"We got the hard drive, but that's EVERYTHING," JB.

So his complaint is basically that he didn't get an engraved invitation directing him to these pictures, etc.?

Bobbarita
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
JB didn't do his homework. This isn't going to fly with HHJP.

fifteen89
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
JB: YOU ARE THE <modsnip> THAT GAVE THE WORLD THE DATE OF JUNE 16TH. End of story. Sit. down. Please.

pinkfly
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
How come Jose "understands" the court order as it pertains to the state...but not how it applies to himself:waitasec:

Profound

needed more than a thanks

tragco
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
LOLOL.. Baez got the hard drive years ago but is whining that the SA didn't break the info down for him day by day. This is his argument!

JusticeSeeker1960
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
How come Jose "understands" the court order as it pertains to the state...but not how it applies to himself:waitasec:

maybe his wife took that message, ya think?

Florida Native
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
Amen to that! I am a "New Floridian" (resident for 1 year) and it is totally ridiculous. Along with Rick Scott, but I won't go there...

Oh Bobbarita, I'm a lifelong resident and I think we could be beautiful friends. I agree with you, on both points. :innocent:

Tulessa
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
It's called work JB. The state is NOT gonna do your job for ya! :D

Oakley
06-21-2011, 12:10 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
LDB says there is info from computer to negate what defense is alleging. #CaseyAnthony -jfell


I think Casey gets that prominent forehead 'bump' whenever she is busted.

Paging Dr Glass! lol

Softail
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
:lol: CJBP - Did you get the computer information from June 16, 2008?

JB - No.

CJBP - You didn't?

JB - Well, we got the hard drive. That's EVERYTHING.

:laughcry:

OMG! :eek:

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
Computer activities on the morning if June 16th cancel out JB's opening state about the drowning happening that morning.

Linda is trying to say JB did not filter out activity for that morning 3 years ago to check on what the state would use to rebutt his statement.

AGAIN proof that JB's theory was RECENTLY DEVELOPED.

Eidetic
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
JB: "They gave us the hard drive, they issued reports of what their witnesses were going to testify to."

Where's the problem?

Eye Wonder
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
The state went through everything on that hard drive ...WHY didnt you BAEZ???

TortillaChip
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
so in other words, JB & co. did not look up that important date on his own. Talk about shoddy work.

JustMeDeb
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
As much as I would hate to see this happen, if a mistrial was now called and a public defender called in, may not be such a bad thing.

How much worse can this get?

LancelotLink
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
Here's a really stewpid question. If you are going to say something happened on a certain day, wouldn't you want to make sure that day's activities fit said scenario?
and hasn't alot of peeps who know ICA said that she lived on the computer?

Liz
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
Pic of Cindy Anthony in court today, tweeted by OSCaseyAnthony:
http://yfrog.com/gzg7wsnj

dog.gone.cute
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
Hope this is okay to post. Mug shot of April Whalen. Please do not quote this post, until we know for sure if it is okay.

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/April_Whalen_4690079/


OMG !!! Strange ... this case just cannot get any STRANGER ....

TiaM
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
AGAIN Baez complaining that the State gave him ALL the info, but didn't do his job of due diligence FOR him.

My God.

StealthTheory
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
This is ridiculous.

Solomisskitty
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
JB reminding me of SNL's The Whiners.

BritsKate
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
They issued reports of the opinions their experts were to tender.

Yep unlike you Baez!!

technicalconfusion
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
JB didn't do his homework....again....

wundermommy76
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
This is the BEST lunch hour in this case ever!!!!!!!!!! Love JP and LDB!!!!!!!!!!!!

katydid23
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
"I specifically said the exact hour is UNKNOWN, Judge. "

Is he BRAGGING about that?

strach304
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
The DT was lazy and screwed up their own timeline and negates their crappy story.

whiteangora
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
Holy Cow! JB says the HD contained billions of pieces of data but yet somehow the State was able to pick through it! Why couldn't you?

greycoupon
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
"billions of pieces of data"

but how many of them were blogs?

Man, JB. You just should have sat down and shut up. Don't talk about computers. Ever. It doesn't help your case.

Serjen
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
JB regretting his opening statements about now...

SuziQ
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
JB complaining that the SA not doing the DT work by making the poor DT interpret computer data.

Florida Native
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
"We got the hard drive, but that's EVERYTHING," JB.

So his complaint is basically that he didn't get an engraved invitation directing him to these pictures, etc.?

Oh my heavens. Just when I think I've heard it all. :banghead:

grammieto5
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
OK so when JB's birthday? I'm sending him a HUGE box of cheese and crackers.

KathrynL
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
JBs inexperience is really showing here. I *believe* it is SOP to provide everything in discovery and leave it up to the other side to sort out what is relevant. Good grief.

LiveLaughLuv
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
JB standing to the right of LDB and looks ticked!!! ICA knows she's been busted by the amazing SA team. Shooting daggers at LDB. Can this case get any stranger?

Yep, everyone has it wrong but Baez and team...this is a bombshell and I do hope ICA considers taking LWOP for if this comes in front of the jurors, death may be their only option....for angering them...she should have taken that plea deal from the get go....instead, she wants to be seen as innocent, will never, ever take responsbility for her actions...:maddening:

JusticeSeeker1960
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
I swear I've had a headache for days now, thinking it was sinus. I know think it's JB! :banghead:

biggirl
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
Waaaaa waaaaaa JB wants a richardson hearing ago St the SA. He is soooooo ridiculous and juvenile it is beyond words!!!!!!

Donjeta
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
JJBP saying, "JB you were stupid if you didn't look this up" without actually saying so

ZsaZsa
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
Are the A's in court listening to this today?

Turnadot
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
JB reminding me of SNL's The Whiners.
I wish LDB and JA would be the Sarcastic Clapping Family.

Mendara
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
Judge is sayign June 16th is a key date and I think will determine that JB should have filtered the info on the computer for that day.

tragco
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
Here's a really stewpid question. If you are going to say something happened on a certain day, wouldn't you want to make sure that day's activities fit said scenario?
and hasn't alot of peeps who know ICA said that she lived on the computer?


HHJP is now asking that exact same question to Baez so it's a very smart question.

mimmy03
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
In all seriousness...Why does the state keep calling science witnesses when they are getting skewered by the State? They should go straight to the more salacious witnesses. Such us...Jesse Grund, CA, GA.

Don't help them! ;)