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strach304
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
JB getting ready to object again, unless my computer is behind not ahead

He better do something. His expert witness is agreeing to the prosecution evidence.

Mountain_Kat
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
Yes he is. Happy kitties are fine. :) You didn't miss anything important.

So it took JB all morning to get no where with this witness, and JA about 20 minutes to destroy him...that about it? ;)

TiaM
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
JB sickly, weakly, murmurs for a sidebar just before JA asks the witness if the Pontiac still smelled 2 years later. hahahahahahahahahahah

HE HIMSELF opened this door by NOT sticking with entemology from this witness.

Priceless.

Even if it doesn't get asked - the jury knows what his question and answer would be.

Softail
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
:laughcry:

I just crack up everytime CM is at sidebar covering his mouth. He really must not realize that the transcripts are made public. He must really think people can actually read his lips! :lol:

pjmale
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
JB just got nuked.

momtective
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
Open the canisters with smell of decomp on the tire cover! (Sorry, wishful thinking.)

Exactly!:rocker:

camcneishg
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
open those cans!!

Curious Me
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
Jeff Ashton is carrying the sword of truth cutting through all this Defense BS. Hats off to Mr. Ashton.

logicalgirl
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
White flags are waving the flying pigs in for a landing!!!

Ah! GOOD TIMES!

pipkins
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
I actually feel like crying for joy ! Im getting so emotional watching this

Linda7NJ
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
OMG Jeff makes me want to be a lawyer! He's awsome! BEST cross I have EVER seen!:rocker:

and I've seen hundreds

21merc7
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
Sidebar over or KC bored with it

Bon
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
This is embarrassing

If it helps little Caylee, it's all ok :)

TotallyObsessed
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
THIS IS LIKE THE BEST FOOTBALL GAME EVER.

And ICA is the <modsnip>

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Lanie
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
I am laughing about this. ICA should have pled out 3 years ago. Take that, inmate!

Dr.Fessel
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
LOL I swear Baez went lower in his seat then Casey!!

MissJames
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
Camera just paused on Mr. Mason - for a few seconds - while he gave a big sigh and pressed his lips together.....
Not looking too happy....

He knows JB is the one left this door wide open.Again.

jon_burrows
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
The witness already said the smell of human decomp is distinctive during JBs questioning. He can't back away from that now.


IMO

raysgirl1126
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
Poor bug guy!!!

Elley Mae
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
Baez is probably up there trying to get his jacks back! Hey Your Honor that guy is my witness.

Eidetic
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV

Ashton just got defense expert to admit if a body were in Casey's trunk.. It would smell so bad you would not be able to get rid of it

2 minutes ago

KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV

Defense expert admitted the state's scenario is possible to explain lack of bugs

8 minutes ago

KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV

State is tearing up the defense expert

12 minutes ago

KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV

Baez looks unhappy that defense witness told the state the body had been there since 2-4 days after death

17 minutes ago

KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV

Defense expert says bugs associated with early decomposition were not at the scene with Caylee's remains

32 minutes ago


KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV

Defense expert says bugs attracted to "early stage" decomposition missing from woods where Caylee was found

33 minutes ago

debloree
06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
Baez and ICA don't look too happy!

liltexans
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
No matter how hard defense tries to take body from trunk it always comes back to smell. Baez will revisit that on redirect.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:38 PM

cecybeans
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
Why is this guy laughing about how the smell could have been decomp?

fla*mom
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
bring on the cans!

JSR
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
HHJP may not allow him to ask this but JB put him on as a decomp expert so he should be able to answer.

npcougar
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
Why in the world would Jose put this guy up there if he was on the record as agreeing with the pros.

CementPond
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
NO! Sorry! Trash does not smell that long after!!!!!! NO WAY! Especially when only boxes and bottles were in it.

NocturnalLady
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
JA - When in your experience has a bag of garbage stunk up a car trunk for TWO YEARS after it being removed?

pipkins
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
The trunk stunk 3 years later!

roxy roller
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
I am a paralegal (the real kind, not like ICA), and I must say this witness is getting TORE UP. I kinda feel sorry for him, but if this is what it takes for Caylee to get justice, I'm willing to see some witnesses blush/cry/etc! JA doing an amazing job!

Mountain_Kat
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
OMG...garbage leaves a stink for 2 years? Are you kidding me? :floorlaugh:

luv
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
http://i51.tinypic.com/viku3k.jpg

GreenTeam
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
Witness says it could have been garbage smell. JA asking if/when he's ever smelled that.

TexasDoll
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
This guy is done. Feeling sorry for him. God bless you, JA!

JSR
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
GARBAGE doesn't smell for YEARS!!!!!!!!!!

adb263
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
getting Pi***** off listening to this witness chuckling about the smell!!!

That was a child sir!!!

yeknomaras
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
this witness is totally drinking the ICA kool aid. I AM SO PIZZED

katydid23
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Ashton just used this witness was a witness FOR the state. Ha ha ha

Baez does not look quite so smug anymore. He kept this kid up there ALL DAY giving a college lecture, but getting nowhere.

Then Ashton took 20 minutes to wipe any progress for the DT completely away, and gained huge ground for the prosecution.

Amster
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
This is so stupid....get him off and send him packing back to Neb.

Solomisskitty
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Witness: I don't put garbage in my trunk.

Unlike others....

Blue Ridge
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
JA has completely redeemed this day :woohoo:

QueenD
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
When in your experiance has a bag of garbage stunk up a car for 2-years? LOL

JSR
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
I think this witness is completely disingenuous.

Mendara
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
hahahahaha

THe witness: claims the smell could have been garbage

JA: WHAT GARBAGE do you know of that would smell a car up for two years after it has been removed????

HAHAHHAHA

Witness: I have never left my garbage in my trunk.

FALLS FLAT>

strach304
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
OMG! Love JA.

pinkfly
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
He is actually trying to distance himself from this case now by saying he never leaves garbage in his trunk

Themis
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
your coffin fly image looks a little like a common housefly, i found this one on wiki, and the info is creepy, apparently they burrow into the ground to get to bodies...

Megaselia scalaris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaselia_scalaris)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Megaselia_scalaris.jpg
Thank you! You could be right. I just posted what I found on a Google search for "coffin fly". I'm not a chemist! :waitasec:

Pita
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
From my observation, this witness has been ripped a new one!

Eye Wonder
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
OH MY!!!! Im getting so excited i feel faint....

TexasDoll
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
BAM! Hired on 12/11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohiogirl
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
This guy is done. Feeling sorry for him. God bless you, JA!

Don't feel sorry, He got here all on his own.

lajones81
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
My heart is racing right now!

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Hired on Dec 11 - GO JA!!

jon_burrows
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
ICA shaking her head 'no'.

GreenTeam
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
He was hired on December 11, 2008.

watchinginky
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Go Jeff.....you were hired on Dec. 11, 2008.

Mountain_Kat
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Oh snap...when were you hired! :floorlaugh:

Softail
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
JA - Now let's talk about your experiment.

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Great question about the length of time the trash would smell! I DID leave a bag of trash in my truck for 2 days in the hot and veeerrrry humid Virginia summer-where temps with humidity can go higher than Florida...and once I got in, removed the bag, opened my windows and drove around for 10-15 minutes-THE SMELL WAS GONE FOR GOOD.

Dr.Fessel
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
It was the little bottle of spit and tobacco.

Fluffy Puppy
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
This is so textbook of an excellent cross, I am almost emotional. Ashton even varies his pace, volume, verbal punctuation.

JB, watch and learn.

wvjules
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
<----currently blown away by JA! Go, JA, go!

This is this is like it is in the movies. lol

Waiting for him to sternly ask "Did you order the Code Red." lol

Kateyes
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Go JA!! Blew this witness away.KC is sighing a lot, looks uncomfortable.

HOTNTX
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Mercy to God....Jeff Ashton is the "new" PERRY MASON! He has completely demolished TH!

liltexans
06-17-2011, 02:40 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Ashton just got defense expert to admit if a body were in Casey's trunk.. It would smell so bad you would not be able to get rid of it
1 minute ago

strawberry
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
ICA looks a little scared of JA. I feel for JA. We have exactly the same temper. Mine particularly flares in the face of being lied to, and any kind of injustice.

Salem
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
JA needs to calm down a bit. He is on a roll but he needs to keep it together.

Experiment after litigation started!! Never a good thing.

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
Ja trying to say his experiment was for this case.

Curious Me
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
Ha-ha, witness doesn't put garbage in his own trunk, not even in Nebraska. He probably doesn't have to cover up the smell of his murder victims.

katydid23
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
When were you hired? On dec 11th, 2008 correct? [ he is coming back to that I bet.]

whiteangora
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
IMO JA is really good at his job!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

the poor witness>>>:truce:

Ashton is the best of the best! :great:

TortillaChip
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
how are your boys doing now ICA? Her face reflects not so well there.

grammieto5
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
HA Hired LOL

Marina2
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
Baez and Casey watching JA decimate his expert witness.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/marina809/Casey/baez.jpg

Velouria
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
I am a paralegal (the real kind, not like ICA), and I must say this witness is getting TORE UP. I kinda feel sorry for him, but if this is what it takes for Caylee to get justice, I'm willing to see some witnesses blush/cry/etc! JA doing an amazing job!

I feel kinda sorry for him, too, like I should slip him a candy bar or something. Lord knows he must need it right about now!

Kenziema
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
Here it comes!!!!!!!!!!

Salem
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
Didn't we have another scientist that did an experiment after litigations started? Said he was going to do the study, but this case made it more important to do it now?

Salem

Mendara
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
Now the witness flat out lying.

YellowSubmarine
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
I am so enthralled right now, I can't even bring myself to walk down the hall to grab my laundry that needs to be folded!

Mountain_Kat
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
Dr. H: And I said, "Hey...what's up dude. Can I snag yo wheels?"

(Not really, but just about!) :floorlaugh:

Eileen730
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
I am a paralegal (the real kind, not like ICA), and I must say this witness is getting TORE UP. I kinda feel sorry for him, but if this is what it takes for Caylee to get justice, I'm willing to see some witnesses blush/cry/etc! JA doing an amazing job!


I feel bad for also he's way out of league! he's never done this before i dont believe and of all cases to get he gets this one lol...

Hes getting Chewed up and spit out!

Solomisskitty
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
He did an experiment just for this case.

Badabing

Leila
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
I've been listening rather than posting today, and just wanted to say that Jeff Ashton is doing a fantastic job! He's pretty much turned Dr. Huntington into a prosecution witness!

This is exactly what I expected the prosecution to do. They're taking defense witnesses and turning them into good witnesses for the prosecution.

kelian36
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
Such an exciting Friday. Jeff rocks. Thanks for doing this for Caylee. Jeff even blindsided me with his excellent cross.
I am giddy. :D

NocturnalLady
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
TH has NEVER had an occasion to work with a body decomposing in a car trunk.

JSR
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
He's over-explaining himself. He doesn't come across as truthful.

1tasha
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
Bill Shaeffer speaks: "JA just eviscerated him. Turned Defense witness into prosecution witness"

I hope LKB is tuning in to see what her rolodex has done to the defense.

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
Great question about the length of time the trash would smell! I DID leave a bag of trash in my truck for 2 days in the hot and veeerrrry humid Virginia summer-where temps with humidity can go higher than Florida...and once I got in, removed the bag, opened my windows and drove around for 10-15 minutes-THE SMELL WAS GONE FOR GOOD.

Adding to me-self: And there was actually food in my trash, unlike TL's trash.

Dr.Fessel
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
I think this witness is completely disingenuous. He is a liar and the jury is seeing it.

Hamsterdance
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Oh BOY I would love to see JA question ICA on the stand!

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
All of your opinions come frm this experiment

No - case studies from vehicle trunks

how many involved small children

None

Bobbarita
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
I don't LIKE this witness, I don't BELIEVE this witness, I think this witness is UNRELIABLE, I think this witness is INEXPERIENCED. I would NEVER buy what he is saying. JMHO...

rbrnmw2
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
:woohoo:
Git r done JA

Themis
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Oh, I guess there are 370 species in North America. (Wikipedia.)

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Curious Me
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Witness read about dead bodies in trunks!

Solomisskitty
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Now the witness seems to want to hide.

drip~drop
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
GO JEFF!!!! Take him down!
moo:cow::rocker:

truthsleuth
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
This cross is beautiful!! Yay, JA!

Oakley
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
If you want to play with the big boys, you gotta be able take it like a man. I'm not one iota sorry for this guy. I'm loving this!!!!!

TortillaChip
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
ICA looks a little scared of JA. I feel for JA. We have exactly the same temper. Mine particularly flares in the face of being lied to, and any kind of injustice.

imo, she looks pizzed!!!!!

sorrell skye
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Something I've personally noticed in terms of the difference between the SA's expert witnesses and the DT's expert witnesses: the SA's witnesses have all seemed very confident in their demeanors & testimonies, whereas the DT's witnesses thus far have seemed less than confident in their demeanors & testimonies.

FWIW

shezcrafti
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?? LLOLOLOLOL

BigFatMommyDog
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Pigs in a blanket

Hamsterdance
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
I :heart: JA!! Just destroyed this witnesses entire study. "Why didn't he wrap his pigs in a blanket!" :D

The Eunice Burns
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Pigs in a blanket! LOL

fifteen89
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
OMG. Casey laughs. At 'why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket.' OMG OMG.

pipkins
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
This is so textbook of an excellent cross, I am almost emotional. Ashton even varies his pace, volume, verbal punctuation.

JB, watch and learn.

SPOT ON! I really feel like crying

Blue Ridge
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ETA: even ICA found that quite humorous.......

MissDiva
06-17-2011, 02:43 PM
ROFL!!

JA: "Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?"

QueenD
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
No experiance on a body decomposing in a trunk. None on a small child.

NoeticSoul
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
ICA laughing OMG.

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?

CementPond
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Pigs in a blanket and Casey laughs. UNREAL!!!!!!!!!

Lovejac
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
PIGS in a BLANKET!!!!

Stella5
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?! OMG I snorted my water up my nose!

christee
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?

OMG I'm rolling! Jeff, you cheeky thing you :biggrin:

Ricki
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
JA showing no Mercy. Why didn"t you rap your pigs in a blanket??

MrsT
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
HA HA HA HA HA! I just love JA!!

What'sThatClue
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
JA: "Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?"

NocturnalLady
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
OMG JA says why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?

Casey laughs her head off!!!

momtective
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket! :floorlaugh:

ERRN1313
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
"Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?" LOL!!

fla*mom
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Softail
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
:lol: JA - Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?

Everyone laughs!

twall
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket? LMAO!

katydid23
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
The witness is now speaking in a very soft, low voice. Big change in demeanor from earlier when he was playing with sharpies and rumpled paper.

Mountain_Kat
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
PIGS IN A BLANKET?! OMG! :floorlaugh:

Linda7NJ
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


and Casey LAUGHS!

sorrell skye
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Pigs in a blanket??!!

Potluck cuisine has now been brought into cross-examination.

strawberry
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
ICA chuckling.

Wholehearted
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
"Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?" JA. Too funny.

The way the witness laughs along with JA, it just makes me think he's not trying to be deceptive. Like most academics, giving a straight answer is not really his forte, IMO.

azscr4mbl3r
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
didn't JB in direct ask him about what kind of car he used and they established it was a ford probe and not a pontiac sunfire... I think JB's bug guy has a man crush on JA...

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
I hope LKB is tuning in to see what her rolodex has done to the defense.

Hope she is removing their names from her Rolodex now....this defense is ruining her witness's credibility. And in some sort of fairness to LKB, if she were the one asking the questions, this might have gone differently.

Mendara
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
John Ashton the KILLAH..!!!

No way Jose can but KC on the stand.

ynotdivein
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
OH SNAP--ICA laughs at "pigs in a blanket" comment and tries not to.

faefrost
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
"Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?"

TexasDoll
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
"Why didn't you wrap you pigs in a blanket?!" JA to TH OMG!!!!!!!!!! :floorlaugh:

cecybeans
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
omg KC laughed at the "pigs in a blanket" thing more than the witness.

Salem
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Oh my gosh! Why did you wrap your pigs in a blanket - everybody laughed!

~PrinceSSa~
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
why dont you wrap your pigs in a blanket?? bahaha

pjones
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
I will never look at pig-in-a-blanket in the same way again....

cityslick
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Why is he yelling? He can make his points without yelling at the witness. That doesn't come across well to the jury.

greycoupon
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Oh that's a scary bug pick.

JA was grating on my nerves for a second there, (I know he is tearing this guy up but he was sounding like JB/Mason). He's calmer and wrapping this up now. Bringing it back to this being about Caylee.

I think the poor witness will be running back to Nebraska as soon as he gets dismissed.

"Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?" Well, I guess everyone can find some humor in this. Umm. Well, whatever gets this guy off the stand this century.

JSR
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Pigs in a blanket. LOL. I can't believe ICA actually laughed at what JA said. She hates him so much.

RedSox Mom
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
"Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket?" hahahahahahaha

biggirl
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
BAM! Hired on 12/11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so excited he got that in!!!!!!!!!!!! Baby girl had not even been identified at that point and as Bill S said on WFTV, Baez did not contact him when they thought they found a body at the park. He knew it was Caylee and he had to have been told by KC!!!

Fluffy Puppy
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
ROFL ROFL

You KNOW JA has been sitting on pigs in a blanket since this guys depo.

Again, brilliant timing. He is relaxing this guy then BAM with questions.

Dr.Fessel
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
LOL LOL Casey laughed.

SillyJilly
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::great::floorlaugh:
Not only an amazing lawyer, but a comedian at that! I love him more every day!

MEM2010
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Jeff Ashton does not cease to amaze me!!!

Oakley
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Witness read about dead bodies in trunks!

Perhaps in Wikipedia, like Jose's other 'expert?'

nomoresorrow
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
OMG, I can't believe that Casey would laugh along with the "pigs in a blanket" remark. (Granted it was kind of funny but it shouldn't be to the grieving mother of a dead child)

Curious Me
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket? OMG, JA is good.

countzero
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
:floorlaugh: Pigs in a blanket ... i had leakage.

Salem
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Very nice tension breaker :)

Mohabi
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
I can't believe KC laughed about the "pigs in the blanket" question :(

Celt1997
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
This is the JA we know and love. He needs to stop getting angry and just be THIS person.

Carrington
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Casey looks like she trying to cry.....

Eidetic
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
When JA said; "Pigs in a blanket, in a bag?" ICA's eyes narrowed on him and were very chilling at the word; "bag".

SevenSeas
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Oh my GAWD! She LAUGHED at the pigs in a blanket!! Disgusting!!!! :maddening: :maddening: :maddening:

MEM2010
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
yeah Casey laugh. It's so funny that they're talking about your decomposing child. Good grief!

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Showing his study does not come even close to comparing.

HRCODEPINK
06-17-2011, 02:45 PM
I have SO much reading to do today on here. I have been keeping myself in time out because of my feelings for this witness.

Mendara
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Pigs in a blanket and Casey laughs. UNREAL!!!!!!!!!

HArd not to laugh - it was a real question that was just funny.

watchinginky
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Ashton to witness...."how come you didn't wrap your pig in a blanket?"
(He said he told the judge he was going to say that!!)

16612

FaerieB
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Juror 17 was that guy in high school who seemed like he didn't give a crap, but deep down, he did. (and he wanted to take #15 to prom.)

fla*mom
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
The slow morning was worth this Oh my I am still LOLing

jon_burrows
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Finally, heard Caylee's name for the first time today.

IMO

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
I did not eat lunch today, that was not very nice of them to taunt me with pigs in a blanket. With mustard is yummy.

debloree
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Pigs in a blanket reaction

fifteen89
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Thank you JA for saying "Caylee" instead of "body". We need a reminder.

Eileen730
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
I hope LKB is tuning in to see what her rolodex has done to the defense.

Lets see if HLN has her on tonight?

Ricki
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
and Casey LAUGHS!

She certainly did. How can you laugh when your daughter is not a pig and was wrapped in a blanket to rot.

Steely Dan
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
I just got back from a Dr's appointment and is this really the same guy on the stand who JB said would only be on for a half hour?! :banghead: I take it I didn't miss much. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

GreenTeam
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Does the jury really care about all these details? I think they can conclude there was a body in the trunk without knowing about certain flies being there or not being there.

Mountain_Kat
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Hubby laughing his you know what off every time he hears someone say, "Pig in a blanket." :floorlaugh:

SillyJilly
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
:floorlaugh: Pigs in a blanket ... i had leakage.

Need a "depends?" :crazy:

*JMO*
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
and Casey LAUGHS!

..and so inappropriate of her to laugh. It is one thing for everyone else to get a chuckle out of "Pigs in a blanket" but nothing should possibly be funny for the mother of the dead baby.

Marina2
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
If I was KC and I didn't kill my child that joke about the pig in a blanket would have broke my heart.

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
Finally, heard Caylee's name for the first time today.

IMO

This was a big piece of advice we posted for the state early on, that they needed to use her name over and over and over.

Turnadot
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
I feel so emotional right now. My palms are sweaty!

FaerieB
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
THIS is real cross exam!!!!!! Law students take note. Jeff Ashton owns this expert. Has him saying "pigs in a blanket" #CaseyAnthony #HLN

greycoupon
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
Why is he yelling? He can make his points without yelling at the witness. That doesn't come across well to the jury.

Glad I'm not the only one that bugs. He was really worked up a while ago. Calmed and now is getting worked up. I know I said this earlier, he's right in what he says but he doesn't need to drop to the DT level by getting mad or coming across rude. That distracts the jury from what he is saying.

imawitch
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
:floorlaugh: Pigs in a blanket ... i had leakage.

ya me to, I laughed so hard tears ran down my leg lol:floorlaugh:

Apex-mom
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
I. Cannot. Believe. She. Laughed. At. That. Joke.

monique
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
Oh BOY I would love to see JA question ICA on the stand!

After this cross I don't think you have a hih of seeing ICA on the stand!

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
Are we actually watching this guy become Jeff Ashton's witness? Brilliant!

mitzi
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
Hope she is removing their names from her Rolodex now....this defense is ruining her witness's credibility. And in some sort of fairness to LKB, if she were the one asking the questions, this might have gone differently.

Gee LKB wasn't on HLN yesterday, wonder if she will dare to show her face today! LOL!

Storm
06-17-2011, 02:47 PM
It seems as if he relates to his flies as if they were intelligient beings...I want one as a housekeeper! ^i^

Amster
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
On Dec. 11th, when he was hired, the info. of Caylee being in 2 garbage bags and in a laundry bag and wrapped in a blanket was not known yet, right?

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Did not mean to imply that the trash bag was a barrier. This guy is imploding.

fla*mom
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
:floorlaugh: Pigs in a blanket ... i had leakage.

Please oh please, I am headed that way myself.

biggirl
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
"Pigs in a blanket" can be funny to ALL of us, but it should NOT be funny to the Mother of a child found in a blanket!!!!!!!! NEVER

wenwe4
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
HHBP - you may continue

JA when you looked @ trunk in 7/2010 - still a smell in the trunk yes....knowing garbage in trunk when in your experience bag of garbage in trunk for a week....left one in nebraska? walk past a dumpster in nebraska? yes other states/ yes....

talk about your experiment.....step down...put way over here....one of 6 - jb wants to get closer.....hired 9/2010 this experiment created specifically for this case? no it was not....have longstanding history to examine barrier effects from fly colony....many bodies recovered veh. trunks...case studies ....he had occassion to meet owner of tow company with junk cars...can I experiment veh he volunteered.....did you tell JB you were doing this experiment? yes....this experiment in back of his mind a long time...did do some side experimenting in this specific case....not specific modeled for this case...how many bodies for 2 or 3 days body in trnk.....never.....all of your opinions what you would expect to see from this one experiment? no ...case studies in lit....how many of those involve small children? not aware of any small child....wrapped in blanket ...stuffed in garbage bag...stuffed in another garbage bag? object - overrule - kc lauighs!!!! no

why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket? laughter in courtroom

didn't focus on that specific focus on trunk restriction...there are other studies pigs in a blanket ....pigs in a blanket in a bag/ not a fair representation of Caylee - she was wrapped in a blanket and 2 bags....

why he was doing relevance to this case...attractive early colonize access veh. trunk...only included one of many barriers between fly and Caylee body....had he wrapped pig in blanket...placed in multiple trash bag, in laundry bg....flies penetrated could trunk - if flies can smell body...in this case wrapped in ...they can almost certainly ge to the body...never had experience body in trunk reserach....
1 body in plastic - 1 case study ...body recovered in Europe head of vic placed in garbage bags placed in trunk of veh...in the "boot" of the veh....based upon 1 study told jury no way bag could be a barrier....n ot what he meant to imply many studies look @ efficiency of trashbags.....

teedie2
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
The witness is speaking very carefully now. Looking for traps?

grandmaj
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Oh my this guy has been roasted. I wish I could see LKB now to see her expression.

Dr.Fessel
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Where did Jose go?

NocturnalLady
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
If I heard someone make the "pig in a blanket" joke when they were talking about the body of my dead daughter I would be incensed. I would have leapt up and started shouting "How dare you make a joke like that!" Casey's response is total proof that she is a sociopath?

fla*mom
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
I would never want to be on this end of JA!

UFO
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Bugman: Feets, don't fail me now...............

TiaM
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Why is he yelling? He can make his points without yelling at the witness. That doesn't come across well to the jury.

Mason gets up there and bellows like there is no tomorrow and it is ALLOWED.

Why shouldn't Ashton get to make his point bombastically also?

Technically - I do think part of the problem is when he uses the wireless mic - he is a loud talker anyway - but that does make it worse. He should modulate better I agree.

thumbtack
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
Shouldn't JA stop while he's ahead?

JenniferTx
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
Casey looks like she trying to cry.....

trying

strawberry
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
I know what we're having for happy hour at the sidebar~~~

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l516/tbompadre/th_cocktail_pigs_blanket.jpg (http://s1121.photobucket.com/albums/l516/tbompadre/?action=view&current=cocktail_pigs_blanket.jpg)

Softail
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
THIS is real cross exam!!!!!! Law students take note. Jeff Ashton owns this expert. Has him saying "pigs in a blanket" #CaseyAnthony #HLN

:great::great::great:

Mohabi
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
I can't get over the pig in a blanket. I am so upset at the ensuing laughter.

whiteangora
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
ya me to, I laughed so hard tears ran down my leg lol:floorlaugh:
LOL, notice that JA is much more relaxed now that he has debunked all of TH testimony.

Lanie
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
NO! Sorry! Trash does not smell that long after!!!!!! NO WAY! Especially when only boxes and bottles were in it.

I had a brain dead moment years ago and accidentally left 4 whole chickens in 2 grocery bags in the trunk of my car for a couple of days. In the summer in Texas.

My car reeked. It smelled so bad it brought tears to my eyes. I thought I had ruined my car, but within a few days of removing the disgusting remains in my trunk, my car no longer smelled. So I don't believe for a hot second a trash bag with possibly a scrap of lunchmeat and a few spit cans is still going to have an overwhelming smell after 2 or 3 years.

GiantPickle
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
I have to say that while I appreciate the human need for relief from such a stressful topic - I don't find the pigs in a blanket comments funny. Or the now cut up comment about a head being in a trunk or rather the "boot"

These are MURDERED PEOPLE IN THE TRUNKS !!!

I gotta step away.

Mountain_Kat
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
I think the good Dr. Haskell must be laughing his butt off right about now. Silly young upstart. ;)

susan1122
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
Why is he yelling? He can make his points without yelling at the witness. That doesn't come across well to the jury.

I hope he tones it down. His points can speak for themselves. He just doesn't need this tone....IMO. I am on JA's side!

zoey
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
It seems as if he relates to his flies as if they were intelligient beings...I want one as a housekeeper! ^i^

I'm thinking If Dr. Vass could figure out how to put a leash on a fly he would be the first customer....

The Eunice Burns
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
JB has no idea what to do. Do you hear that beautiful whoosh/thunk of match point? It's hard for me not to.

GetSmart
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
OUT OF BALLPARK !! This my friends is the difference in a professional well versed intelligent man ..
see dictionary = Jeff Ashton vs a JOSE BaeZ

Curious Me
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
This witness is so into attraction and fly love. The fly falls in love with the smell first.

npcougar
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
I don't agree that the bags are gas-permeable.

kantoo
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Ashton asks why didn't Huntington wrap his pig (experiment) in a blanket? Jury laughs. #CaseyAnthony -jfellby cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:45 PM

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Brings up chloroform!

MissDiva
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
I am definitely happy with all of HHJP's overrulings of JB's objections.

zoey
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
I think the good Dr. Haskell must be laughing his butt off right about now. Silly young upstart. ;)

wonder if there will be a text LOL

logicalgirl
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Loving HHJP through this testimony - Overruled! Overruled! Overruled! and a whole bunch more!!!

SillyJilly
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
I. Cannot. Believe. She. Laughed. At. That. Joke.

I was sitting here giggling at JA and saw her laughing, my first thought was ,"No, ICA, WE get to laugh. You should be sickened." Disgusts me that she can laugh and smile through all of this.

Blue Ridge
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Ohhh, chloroform's effect on the early colonizers!

jon_burrows
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
On Dec. 11th, when he was hired, the info. of Caylee being in 2 garbage bags and in a laundry bag and wrapped in a blanket was not known yet, right?

Casey knew it and could have told JB.

IMO

Tipstaff
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Where did Jose go?

Check under the table.:floorlaugh:

ziggy
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Bingo: the effects of chloroform on repelling flies!!!!

This expert cannot explain that! It can be used to kill insects in high concentration.

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Gee LKB wasn't on HLN yesterday, wonder if she will dare to show her face today! LOL!

She is seething...Dr. Baden must have to keep to himself these days, he has to agree with Dr. G and with much of what the state's team is saying. Of course, a dog house or a sofa is not a very comfy place to sleep, so his tongue must be in pain from all the biting he has to do :)

grandmaj
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Jose looks very ticked.

cecybeans
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
JA just saved himself by saying the chloroform could have killed the early colonizer flies.

Fluffy Puppy
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
I think we have the big sound bite from today. JA will own the news coverage tonight. It will also stick in the jurrors minds and they will remember this cross.

Etiana
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
This witness in unbearably awful.

Searchfortruth
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Casey is looking a little pale.

FaerieB
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
SWAT! There goes the defense bug expert! #CaseyAnthony. #HLN

strach304
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
From my observation, this witness has been ripped a new one!

He really does sound like he doesn't know what he's talking about. Obviously JB gave him a script, reviewed what testimony they wanted him to give.

fifteen89
06-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Me thinks JB might want to consider going back to selling bikinis after this case.

ETA: Does Casey get how bad JB is?

Blue Ridge
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
OMG... witness tells JA he is 'making assumption' there was a body....

wvjules
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
High concentrations of choloform kills bugs!

Oakley
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
Anyone think young defense 'expert' is also in awe of JA and is thinking about now that perhaps he's on the wrong team? :floorlaugh:

Oh Jose's sitting on the mic button like a game show contestant!

eaglemom
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
BAM - chloroform in high concentrations can be used to kill insects - JA

ziggy
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
Shush JB: hypotheticals to experts are OK!!!

Just Jayla
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
Bingo: the effects of chloroform on repelling flies!!!!

This expert cannot explain that! It can be used to kill insects in high concentration.

Gorgeous! Thank you!

zoey
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
someone is getting nervous

fla*mom
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
Where did Jose go?

Home.

Elley Mae
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
WOW Aston suggested the body was alive!

KenoshaKid
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
JA says lets say the person was placed in the trunk alive, dies in the trunk, and there is chloroform in the air, what would that do to early colonizers?

Doesnt know - no research

kantoo
06-17-2011, 02:51 PM
"outside the parameters" for this witness?

you kidding me? JB you had this guy testifying to everything

Salem
06-17-2011, 02:52 PM
She certainly did. How can you laugh when your daughter is not a pig and was wrapped in a blanket to rot.

Everybody laughed, it was a shocker, it caught everyone off guard and it took a minute to catch on. It was funny. I realize this is very serious, but it was also very unexpected - the kind of thing that would make you laugh even if you were already sadly crying, kwim?

Just my 2 cents,

Salem

NocturnalLady
06-17-2011, 02:52 PM
JB objects to TH testifying outside the parameters. Too bad he opened that door himself! Now HHJP is giving JA back just as much latitude as he gave JB.

erinleigh
06-17-2011, 02:52 PM
During this line of cross examining - no jurors are taking notes. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:15 PM

Jurors are paying attention, but I haven't noticed them taking many notes. #caseyanthony #fox35
by anthonycase via twitter at 1:15 PM

that is very upsetting