View Full Version : IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 *PHOTOS & MAPS*
Btown
06-10-2011, 02:41 PM
Hope these pics come out ok.
Standing at the side street beside Smallwood, looking up the alley toward the boys appartments.
http://i56.tinypic.com/1551e8y.jpg
Moved forward approx. 1/2 block closer toward his apt. area.
http://i55.tinypic.com/15v809.jpg
Another 1/2 block (approx.)closer to his apt. area.
In the below pic, there is a photographer in the middle of the alley at the top of the hill near the boys apartment pointing his camera my way. I didn't want to go further.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3106/alley2r.jpg
Looking back at Smallwood.
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/653/smwd.jpg
There are very few street lights in this alley. The lights that are there are focused on apt. parking areas, not the alley.
Btown
06-10-2011, 06:06 PM
Since I'm local, I went looking for the "Alley Cam" that shows Lauren at 3am. This is the last location that she can be proven to have been.
Actually there are several camera's. All of them are at 10th & the alley. 3 of them have tinted covers. You can't tell where they point, or if they are real. 3 of them are old school "box" camera's.
2 of the box cameras point directly at the alley. If you go up the alley there is no way to avoid them.
This is 1 block before they "got to the boys apt."
2 Box cams center, circled in red are unavoidable if your walking up the alley. I did not circle the box cam to the right, since it points toward College.
There is no way to tell where the tinted camera on the left is pointed.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2jcu0pl.jpg
Tinted cameras probably point at the fenced in pool, but there is no way to know if they are real, or where they point.
http://i53.tinypic.com/r2jiab.jpg
Btown
06-10-2011, 10:19 PM
I'm back from looking around the area between Morton, 11th, & College. I was mainly looking for the handrail. Below are some pics. I'm not much of a photographer, so its not much, but its all I can do to help find Lauren at this point.
I've updated that area of my original "map" to help clarify some things.
http://i51.tinypic.com/dfdn43.jpg
5 North Apartments 11th & Morton
http://i51.tinypic.com/1tkepd.jpg
Back side of 5 North, from Gravel area.
http://i55.tinypic.com/15g89dz.jpg
Back of Apartments between 5 North, and 11th & College.
http://i56.tinypic.com/34s58hv.jpg
Back of Apartments between 5 North, and 11th & College. Back of 11th & College. Dr. Office.
http://i55.tinypic.com/otkcg4.jpg
Gravel Lot, Handrail, 10th & College Village Apts. 10th & College Apts. Security Cameras.
http://i51.tinypic.com/25kn0a1.jpg
Btown
06-14-2011, 08:41 PM
Starting at 9th Street in front of Bubs (http://www.bubsburgersandicecream.com/), behind Smallwood, looking North on Morton toward 10th, & 11th St. You can follow along on Google Street View. There is nothing to see on the west side of the street, (farthest from Smallwood).
There is an empty lot at the corner of 9th & Morton, then the first building is an apartment complex named Morton Mansions at 10th and Morton St. with for lease signs, cameras pointing to the parking lot, which is toward Smallwood and College, One camera at the main entrance, and more in the distance on the next building.
http://i55.tinypic.com/24c8n60.jpg
At the corner of 10th & Morton, I looked East up 10th, toward College Ave. There are 6 Cameras. The far building on the left with cameras is 10 & College Apartments.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2cftthj.jpg
Continuing North on Morton, are 3 more cameras on 10th & College Village apartment building.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2v9rk02.jpg
Further North on Morton, another camera at the main entrance to 10th & College Village apartment building. As I took this picture, a friend pulled up to the curb. I leaned in his car as he asked what the heck I was doing. As a silly excuse came out of my mouth, 2 unmarked police cars pulled up just in front of him. 4 uniformed officers got out of each car, and fanned out thru the neighbor hood. You can see a few of them in a couple of these images IIRC. So, they are still out working the case. I worried a bit they might stop me and want to know why I was taking pics. :-)
As I was typing this, my wife said she saw on the news that a drone was flying over Bloomington to help with the search.
http://i52.tinypic.com/m8hau8.jpg
Just North of that, a glimpse inside 10th & College Village apartment building.
http://i56.tinypic.com/noyrl5.jpg
Still on Morton, a little farther North. Another Camera. North West corner of the 10th & College Village apartment building.
http://i51.tinypic.com/294s9xt.jpg
Looking East up the alley beside 10th & College Village apartment, eastward toward College Ave.
http://i54.tinypic.com/hrj695.jpg
Continuing East up the alley toward College Ave. The 2 guys in the alley were changing a light bulb on the 10 & College apartments building, at College Ave. I asked them about the bulb, and they said it didn't fix it, that it must be a bad fixture. The could not say if it was functioning when Lauren went missing.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3319/img00178201106141726.jpg
The North East side of 10th & College Apartments alongside the alley. There is the camera I missed in my first post about 10th & College.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2n0rcp5.jpg
The cameras view, facing south.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2u3v4lf.jpg
Further up the alley across College Ave. Looking back westward, back at 10th & College Apartments.
http://i51.tinypic.com/2vbogpc.jpg
Moving back toward Morton, facing west on the alley
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7932/img00180201106141727.jpg
Almost back to Morton St.
http://i51.tinypic.com/aorscm.jpg
More later moving up to 5 North Apartments, where the boys live, then down College Ave., back toward Smallwood.
Btown
06-14-2011, 10:07 PM
In previous posts, I put pictures of the alley that runs from 9th St. to 11th Street, between Morton St., and College Ave.
I have a few more pictures now.
Moving back up North on Morton St. There are no security cameras on this block that I can see.
You are already aware of the pictures of gravel lot, the back of 5 North Apartments, and the side view of 5 North Apartments.
The next building on Morton is 5 North where the boys live. It faces 11th St.
Here is their dumpster. It says Sears & Son.
http://i53.tinypic.com/ibfgpf.jpg
Corner of Morton St. & 11th St. 5 North Apartments, where the boys live.
http://i56.tinypic.com/zsp9ub.jpg
Across the street from 5 North. The ReStore, and a couple of abandoned buildings.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7288/img00192201106141731.jpg
Facing East toward College Ave. walking in front of 5 North.
http://i52.tinypic.com/htgrj6.jpg
Further East, looking toward College Ave. At the end of 5 North Apartments. This is the end of the alley that goes to Smallwood.
http://i56.tinypic.com/ea4kg8.jpg
Looking right, (South), down the alley toward Smallwood.
http://i53.tinypic.com/2ajv1hi.jpg
Stil going East, the next building is another apartment building. Don't know its name, and although its small, there is nowhere to go to get it all in one image. The other side of the street is closed due to construction.
http://i51.tinypic.com/6xw787.jpg
Between buildings, looking south.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2r7aaae.jpg
Moving farther East toward College Ave. This is the last house on the block.
http://i53.tinypic.com/k0g3fr.jpg
Looking across the street (11th St.) at the construction.
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2534/img00189201106141730.jpg
Construction (Continued) at the North East corner of 11th & College Ave.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/592/img00183201106141729.jpg
Across the street at the North West corner of 11th & College. The Lofts Apartments
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3766/img00184201106141729.jpg
Across College Ave. on the South West corner of 11th & College.
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/439/img00185201106141729.jpg
We'll take a walk down College Ave. in the Next Posting.
bessie
06-15-2011, 01:02 AM
I have a few more pictures now.
Starting to move South on the west side of College Ave. 11th St. is just behind me. So, the corner of 11th & College on the West side of the street.
The pics bounce back and forth between the East side of the street, student rental houses, and the West side of the street.
There is a blue house on the North West corner of 11th & College. Its a student rental apartment. Just next to it, (South), is another student rental house. After that is a Dr. Office.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5723/img00187201106141729.jpg
Standing beside the blue house on the West side of College Ave. Looking directly South toward 10th & College from the corner of 11th & College Ave.
http://i55.tinypic.com/28lwf2p.jpg
I tried to get pics of both sides of College. The East side is mostly houses that students rent. No obvious video cameras.
East side of College, between 11th & 10th.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2z4eruw.jpg
East side of College, further South between 11th & 10th.
http://i52.tinypic.com/119qmnn.jpg
Looking South on College. 10th & College Apartments in view.
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7096/img00204201106141735.jpg
Looking right, (West), between the Dr. Office, and the last house on the block.
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4825/img00207201106141735.jpg
Continuing South beside 10th & College Apartments. Almost to 10th & College.
[http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4835/img00209201106141736.jpg
Across the street, East side of College. Last house.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/75/img00210201106141736.jpg
10th & College Apartments. View from across the Street looking Southwest.
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6199/img00225201106141742.jpg
Salzman's Law Office, East side of College. Corner of College & 10th. Across from 10th & College Apartments. His cameras point at his parking lot. I don't think they get the sidewalk or the road. Lawyers are careful like that.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6894/img00212201106141737.jpg
Waffle House, East side of College Ave. across the street from Salzmans office. Diagnal across the street from 10th & College Apartments. On 10th & College.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5909/img00213201106141737.jpg
More Waffle House, and the new apartments under construction. The traffic lane closest to the apartments was closed. Now its open.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6214/img00227201106141743.jpg
West side of College. Looking South toward Smallwood. The 10th & College intersection is behind me.
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/1118/img00228201106141744.jpg
Still at the intersection of 10th & College. Looking right, (West).
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/623/img00229201106141744.jpg
A little farther South on the West side of College. Looking down a small alley between College and Morton. 1/2 block before Smallwood.
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5281/img00234201106141745.jpg
Looking South on College, almost to Smallwood.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8320/img00236201106141746.jpg
The apartments under construction on the East side of College. The traffic lane in front of it was closed. Its open now. Smallwood is diagnal across the street from this building.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4551/img00237201106141746.jpg
West side of College. Last lot before Smallwood.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4078/img00238201106141746.jpg
At 9th & College on the West side, facing South. Looking at Smallwood. You can see the next search party gathering.
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/318/img00239201106141747.jpg
Where are you Lauren?
Originally posted by Btown here:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - IN IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #4
Btown
06-15-2011, 01:41 AM
OK, VeryVeritas talked me into messing around with "the map" a little more.
Its no work of art, and needs more work, but its a start.
Please feel free to make any corrections, additions, etc.
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3849/aahggg1.jpg
I'll try later to one up Bessie and see about connecting the pics to a map location, but time is my enemy.
bessie
06-16-2011, 03:17 AM
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu282/bessie_06/lsleavingsmallwood.jpg
http://www.lohud.com/article/20110615/NEWS02/106150373
Re: the photo released Wednesday, 06-15-2011 of Lauren leaving Smallwood Apartments the evening of June 2, 2011.
http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=81929
bessie
06-16-2011, 03:21 AM
June 20, 2011 - Truck ruled out
Truck caught on video not part of the case, police say (http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2011/06/20/news.qp-1784939.sto)
Photos of the truck caught by surveillance cameras near 10th St. and Morton Ave at approximately 4:14-4:24 a.m., Friday, June 3, 2011
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu282/bessie_06/whitechevytruck2.jpg
http://www.theindychannel.com/image/28245532/detail.html
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu282/bessie_06/whitechevytruck3.jpg
http://www.theindychannel.com/image/28245560/detail.html
Townie
06-18-2011, 11:19 AM
Btown those pics are great. Do u remember what sort of plastic that was at the construction site?
:+:MrTT:+:
07-03-2011, 11:47 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5034/5898845299_199d97165d_z.jpg
this is the gravel area that was seen as she was walking out of the alley and towards this gravel spot near 11th street. To the left is the alley, and just to the right are parking spaces for about 6 or 9 cars to park facing south towards the alley.
BTW, that pic is of 10th & College Village apartments on the right with the handrail at the entry door where Lauren's keys and coin purse were found at.
Its parking garage is just out of sight on in the alley straight ahead, easily accessed from the alley.
The building on the left is 10th & College apartments. You can see the camera pointed down the alley to the left that leads to College ave, and you can barely see the camera pointed down the alley straight ahead toward 10th St. That is the camera that lauren was last seen on. The alley directly in front leads to Smallwood. You can almost make out the camera farthest away from the your camera, down on 10th street. Thats the Camera that picked up Lauren as she entered the alley.
:+:MrTT:+:
07-04-2011, 12:42 AM
I'm speaking of a little shack across the street from 11th, just North of 5 North Apartments, just East of the building under construction, just West of the ReStore, and the 2 abandoned buildings.
Wikimapia Link (http://wikimapia.org/#lat=39.174422&lon=-86.5355569&z=18&l=0&m=h) Look at the x in the center of the map.
Of course the linked map does not show the construction, or 5 North Apartments. They did not exist when this map was made.
Perhaps we are speaking of the same white shack.......very small, the door on it has been nailed shut .......surrounding by brushes and trees.
next to the door is the busted out window, and as you look inside nothing but garbage?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5279/5898840765_b8ec409296_z.jpg
And that pic is standing where Lauren was last seen on video, but facing the opposite direction she was.
Smallwood straight ahead in the distance.
10th & College Village Apartments garage on the Right.
10th & College Apartments on the left. The camera on the corner of the building is the one that picked up Lauren as she entered the alley from the direction of Smallwood.
:+:MrTT:+:
07-04-2011, 12:42 AM
I'm speaking of a little shack across the street from 11th, just North of 5 North Apartments, just East of the building under construction, just West of the ReStore, and the 2 abandoned buildings.
Wikimapia Link (http://wikimapia.org/#lat=39.174422&lon=-86.5355569&z=18&l=0&m=h) Look at the x in the center of the map.
Of course the linked map does not show the construction, or 5 North Apartments. They did not exist when this map was made.
Perhaps we are speaking of the same white shack.......very small, the door on it has been nailed shut .......surrounding by brushes and trees.
next to the door is the busted out window, and as you look inside nothing but garbage?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5279/5898840765_b8ec409296_z.jpg
:+:MrTT:+:
07-04-2011, 12:42 AM
I'm speaking of a little shack across the street from 11th, just North of 5 North Apartments, just East of the building under construction, just West of the ReStore, and the 2 abandoned buildings.
Wikimapia Link (http://wikimapia.org/#lat=39.174422&lon=-86.5355569&z=18&l=0&m=h) Look at the x in the center of the map.
Of course the linked map does not show the construction, or 5 North Apartments. They did not exist when this map was made.
Perhaps we are speaking of the same white shack.......very small, the door on it has been nailed shut .......surrounding by brushes and trees.
next to the door is the busted out window, and as you look inside nothing but garbage?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5279/5898840765_b8ec409296_z.jpg
Btown
07-04-2011, 01:02 AM
Is this the camera that caught her leaving.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5234/5899412038_a8970aa31e_z.jpg
No sir, thats the camera that first picked her up as she entered the alley.
Your pic is facing toward Smallwood, which is the direction she was coming from.
If you look closely at the building on the right across 10th St. there are 2 more cameras, round with smoked domes. I believe one is pointed down the sidewalk to the right toward 10th and Morton. The other appears to point down the alley toward Smallwood.
See my map for reference
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3849/aahggg1.jpg
and my pics on the photo thread
IN IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 *PHOTOS & MAPS* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
This one shows the same alley from the opposite view of yours
http://i55.tinypic.com/2jcu0pl.jpg
Btown
07-04-2011, 01:02 AM
Is this the camera that caught her leaving.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5234/5899412038_a8970aa31e_z.jpg
No sir, thats the camera that first picked her up as she entered the alley.
Your pic is facing toward Smallwood, which is the direction she was coming from.
If you look closely at the building on the right across 10th St. there are 2 more cameras, round with smoked domes. I believe one is pointed down the sidewalk to the right toward 10th and Morton. The other appears to point down the alley toward Smallwood.
See my map for reference
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3849/aahggg1.jpg
and my pics on the photo thread
IN IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 *PHOTOS & MAPS* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
This one shows the same alley from the opposite view of yours
http://i55.tinypic.com/2jcu0pl.jpg
Btown
07-04-2011, 01:37 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5308/5899406110_2c0d5e248c_b.jpg
That is standing in the alley that runs North South from 9th St. to 11th St.
Facing the North side of Smallwood along 9th street. The top floor is the VIP floor where the sports stars & wealthy like to live.
The windows on the lower left corner of Smallwood are a gym / workout facility / business.
College Ave to the left, Morton St. to the right.
Behind the trees directly forward is the entry to Smallwood's underground parking garage, and a side entry/exit into Smallwood's stairwell.
To the left is the empty lot that has been used as construction overflow for the 9th & College Apartment building.
Bub's burgers and Ice Cream are just out of sight on the right on the corner of 9th and Morton St. (yum).
:+:MrTT:+:
07-04-2011, 01:40 AM
I took this of the front door of small wood to show you need a key.
I didn'thttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5191/5898839197_911cbf7574_z.jpg see anywhere for someone to slide a card through to get in the building.
Btown
07-04-2011, 01:51 AM
I took this of the front door of small wood to show you need a key.
I didn't see anywhere for someone to slide a card through to get in the building.http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5191/5898839197_911cbf7574_z.jpg
That door is facing East along College Ave.
Most of the time that door is unlocked.
You need badges inside the building to use the elevators, but most of the tenets have keys with a chip in them or attached to them, instead of a card.
Once your inside those doors there is a short foyer with another set of glass doors. Once inside them, you are in a long hallway with the building office as the first door on the left, then the stairway door.
On the right the first door is a mail room closet with some pc gear. The next door on the right is the security room. Next is the double elevators.
If you continue straight thru you wind up in the upper floor of the underground parking garage.
Btown
07-04-2011, 02:14 AM
I believe this is one of those side streets connecting the alley and college.
But unsure because i forgot?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6047/5899407432_981b76f0be_z.jpg
Correct.
The pic is facing East toward College Ave.
On the right is 10th & College Apartments.
On the left is a residence.
Behind you is the alley where the gravel lot, handrail, etc. are.
Out by College the light is broken. Its very dark there at night.
But note the camera and light on the yellow corner area of the apartment building.
Btown
07-04-2011, 02:17 AM
I believe this is facing south on college from 11th street heading towards 8th street........i believe that is the doctors building to the right.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6057/5899409442_9116b51365_z.jpg
Correct.
The pic is 2 houses South of where she was last reported seen by JR, and facing the direction she is reported to have been walking.
:+:MrTT:+:
07-04-2011, 02:34 AM
front of smallwood apts........facing north on college from 8th street.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6001/5899405142_7d90d51924_z.jpg
Btown
07-04-2011, 02:38 AM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6006/5898841053_67ebf7969b_z.jpg
That pic is standing just a few feet North of the camera that picked up the last video of Lauren leaving the alley.
On the left out of sight is the handrail her keys were found. You can see the gravel lot, a bit of Morton Street, and in the distance, the ReStore.
The brick building straight ahead is the back side of 5 North Apartments where JR and the other boys lived.
You can also see the new apartment building across 11th St. straight ahead.
To the right is a yellow apartment building under construction, the Dr. Office, and out of sight is College Ave.
Behind you is the alley leading to 10th St. and then on to Smallwood.
Btown
07-04-2011, 02:51 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5313/5899408050_4ccc1181a3_z.jpg
Standing on Morton facing East South East looking at the gravel lot, the handrail her keys and coin purse were found at, and a bit of the alley where the last video of her was taken. You can see the video camera facing south on the corner of the brick building, and one facing east toward College Ave.
The light colored building is 10th & College Village Apartments.
The dark brick building is 10th & College Apartments.
The residential house is just South of the Dr. Office.
Out of sight on the left is the back of 5 North Apartments where JR, and the other boys lived.
:+:MrTT:+:
07-04-2011, 03:04 AM
I took this in the gravel area as i thought about her.
It is some kind of phone system. not sure how long its been there.
but it has a number on it to call for assistance.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5112/5899407726_d51cd58043.jpg
Btown
07-04-2011, 03:08 AM
I took this in the gravel area as i thought about her.
It is some kind of phone system. not sure how long its been there.
but it has a number on it to call for assistance.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5112/5899407726_d51cd58043.jpg
I don't recognize that or the buildings in the background.
Perhaps if you email me the raw pic, I can get the gps data off it and pinpoint its location, (assuming you used a cell phone camera).
Err, wait. I went back thru your pics and see one of the buildings in the background. I must assume that call box is new, or at least I didn't see it on the 6/14 when I took my pics.
See the building on the right.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5034/5898845299_199d97165d_z.jpg
:+:MrTT:+:
07-04-2011, 03:13 AM
I have one more to post for tonight.
And tomorrow ill go back through and see if i have forgotten any
so not to post twice.
But i wanted to say that today was an interesting day.
It was quite there. There was a police presence, and i know they seen me
as i seen them. But they never stopped to ask what i was doing.
In fact no one said anything to me.
But i could tell people were paying attention to strangers.
I got several of those looks. When i got back to the gravel area.
I knew she was taken from there.
But this last photo.
No one can explain.
Because i have no idea how it happened
or what it is, or what i was taking a picture of to capture it.
But i will post it for all to see and wonder.
And Btown thank you so much for telling us what i took pictures of.
That is a Godsend you being able to do that for me.
And i sincerely appreciate your help.
Sorry for keeping you up late if i did.
Keep me updated on any searches.
Maybe i will be able to join next time depending on the day and so forth.
Heres the photo.
Strange as it is.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5265/5898838747_cf0443c4f4_z.jpg
Tracker
07-20-2011, 03:41 PM
I'm back from looking around the area between Morton, 11th, & College. I was mainly looking for the handrail. Below are some pics. I'm not much of a photographer, so its not much, but its all I can do to help find Lauren at this point.
I've updated that area of my original "map" to help clarify some things.
http://i51.tinypic.com/dfdn43.jpg
5 North Apartments 11th & Morton
http://i51.tinypic.com/1tkepd.jpg
Back side of 5 North, from Gravel area.
http://i55.tinypic.com/15g89dz.jpg
Back of Apartments between 5 North, and 11th & College.
http://i56.tinypic.com/34s58hv.jpg
Back of Apartments between 5 North, and 11th & College. Back of 11th & College. Dr. Office.
http://i55.tinypic.com/otkcg4.jpg
Gravel Lot, Handrail, 10th & College Village Apts. 10th & College Apts. Security Cameras.
http://i51.tinypic.com/25kn0a1.jpg
You have done some amazing work!!!! Yes you are a great photographer:)
This is wonderful and I am sure it will be of some help.
Bless you...
Jupiter812
07-25-2011, 08:34 PM
I took this on Day 50. It's the door to the apartment next to JR's. Not sure if this is CR/MB unit. I was glad to see the sentiment and I hope it is for Lauren. I left the reflection of the construction in this photo because it symbolizes the danger behind her. And then there's the door. I hope a door opens for her soon. XO
http://i51.tinypic.com/rsyhk2.jpg
vBulletin® v3.8.1, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
0