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beach
06-19-2011, 04:38 PM
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nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 08:14 AM
bumpity bump and goodmorning peeps!

grandmaj
06-23-2011, 08:43 AM
Bumping...... Good Morning everyone. Let's have a good day. The last few days some comments have been over the top. Let's remember the rules in the OP and post responsibly.

Thanks...

Mamabear1963
06-23-2011, 08:52 AM
Bumping...... Good Morning everyone. Let's have a good day. The last few days some comments have been over the top. Let's remember the rules in the OP and post responsibly.

Thanks...


AWWWW mom...I mean...er...yes Mam

Joanner
06-23-2011, 08:52 AM
The defense team went into the room Casey comes out of a few minutes ago.

The Farm
06-23-2011, 08:52 AM
Ready or not here we go.

LaLaw2000
06-23-2011, 08:53 AM
Let's get it on!

truthsleuth
06-23-2011, 08:54 AM
The defense team went into the room Casey comes out of a few minutes ago.

Nothing would make me happier today than to see Casey testify. Go prosecution!

Yellow Rose
06-23-2011, 08:54 AM
Has anyone been able to determine why DT went behind that door?

Dr.Fessel
06-23-2011, 08:55 AM
The defense team went into the room Casey comes out of a few minutes ago.

Wonder what is going on. Do they all need to go in there and tell her how good she looks?

Mamabear1963
06-23-2011, 08:55 AM
Ready or not here we go.


We are...not sure the DT is...

ooops....

Back to sit on hands....

I really hope JB doesn't try and discredit Dr Vass...I don't think it will go over really well with the jury.

Insomnia Momma
06-23-2011, 08:55 AM
Posting for links!

:blowkiss:

truthsleuth
06-23-2011, 08:55 AM
Has anyone been able to determine why DT went behind that door?

To help Casey tie the knot at the back of her T-shirt? :innocent:

Joanner
06-23-2011, 08:56 AM
Medina in court today. Haven't seen her there very often.

The Farm
06-23-2011, 08:56 AM
To help Casey tie the knot at the back of her T-shirt? :innocent:

I can give them a hint on where to tie it>>>>>:floorlaugh:

Dr.Fessel
06-23-2011, 08:57 AM
Maybe she is upset about her parents statement and is ready to get on the stand.

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 08:57 AM
Maybe Casey is upset....could she have found out what her parents said?

Macushla
06-23-2011, 08:57 AM
It looked like D. Simms did not want to go back there, at least to me.

amysmom
06-23-2011, 08:57 AM
What happens if she refuses to come out? Can they bring her in KICKING & SCREAMING? lol

DianaElaine
06-23-2011, 08:57 AM
Who's the woman on the Defense side ... that just came in?

anb
06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
What did her parents say?

scotslass
06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
Do we know if CA is actually being called today?

BigFatMommyDog
06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
Dang, that's a regular little hive of lawyers there.

Linda7NJ
06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
Maybe she is upset about her parents statement and is ready to get on the stand.


HUGE GRIN over here.....that's exactly what I think! Casey is beyond FURIOUS!:floorlaugh:

ohiogirl
06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
Good morning all.

Bullwinkle
06-23-2011, 08:59 AM
The defense team has come into the courtroom.

Finally Casey enters, at one minute to the hour.

stilettos
06-23-2011, 08:59 AM
Good Morning....gonna be observant and try not to be a jerk about the DT case...ugh..I may have to go back to bed...it's rainy and dark here...good time to do it!

Oakley
06-23-2011, 08:59 AM
Casey appears very unhappy (and ticked off) to me today.

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 08:59 AM
What did her parents say?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/23/florida.casey.anthony.trial/index.html?hpt=ju_c1

They don't think she's innocent.

TortillaChip
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
I think its probably something that she wanted to talk to JB about, because the the guy that opens the door was waiting for Jose to stop speaking to LDB. She doesn't feel good today?? That or she is making up for time that the court officials have cut from her, sitting out there before?

DianaElaine
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
She's here .. and looks fine .... nice new outfit today.

Just K
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
Bringing over from sidebar:
How many people do they have at DT table today...There are now CM, JB, DS, cropped hair & glasses, the bald man and two young women with ponytails. Just ridiculous

Yellow Rose
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
http://www.wesh.com/r-slideshow/28323656/detail.html
If you get a chance during a break in the trial Wesh came up with a fairly good slideshow during break in the trial yesterday afternoon. (I hope I can post this here, if not mods, please let me know.)

grandmaj
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
From the opening post...... come on peeps. Don't make this more difficult than it has to be. :blowkiss:

PLEASE avoid posts that are:

- bashing the defendant's looks or grooming, in words or through visual images

- using derogatory or demeaning terms to refer to players in this case

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Kentjbkent
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
9:00 am.....lets get the show on the road!!!

Lovejac
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
Good morning friends!

One day closer to justice for our Caylee!

rice09
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
ICA seems upset. Anyone else notice that? Maybe she was informed what her parents now think?

okiedokietoo
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
ICA enters the courtroom wearing a lovely light pink
top with matching sweater. Although off the rack,
her ensemble is very stylish.. She appears to be in a somber
mood today. Her hair is swept back in a very coiffured updo.

DianaElaine
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
Ugh ... sidebar all ready???

RammerJammer
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
Good morning all! Everyone present and accounted for? Going to be a short day for me, so I TIA for narrating the proceedings today...and every day!

MaryAnn
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
Has anyone been able to determine why DT went behind that door?


Maybe to tell her her parents think she's quilty now.

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28329375/detail.html

I never thought I would see this day. It does make me feel so sad for CA and GA. What a awful awful thing to have to live with the rest of your life. I can't imagine anything worse. I am glad they have finally come to their senses

pjmale
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
ICA looked very serious when she came out. Dressed up a little today.
Could she be taking the stand today?

beachgal58
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
Casey appears very unhappy (and ticked off) to me today.

Not to me. She is more worried about how she looks always tucking in the shirt or patting her hair. She is nuts!

gamom
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
Who called the sidebar?

jamiect
06-23-2011, 09:01 AM
The defense has asked for a sidebar. Judge Perry replies, "Quickly. You were supposed to do that beforehand."
by Jeff Cousins/WESH.com at 9:01 AM

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
InSession (http://twitter.com/#%21/InSession) In Session



Drane Burdick walks to the back of the gallery, and speaks briefly to George and Cindy. She then leaves the room. #CaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23CaseyAnthony)

Insomnia Momma
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/23/florida.casey.anthony.trial/index.html?hpt=ju_c1

They don't think she's innocent.

The last article I read on this topic, post #5 on today's news thread I think, Littman said that it was all taken out of context. :puke:

Who knows? :dunno:


Sidebar to start? It's 9:01 am

amysmom
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
LDB was seen talking with the As today..Hmmm!

eta..from IS

Pink Panther
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
I'm on an ipad. Does anyone have a compatible link for viewing the trial?

: )

Quiche
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
She's here .. and looks fine .... nice new outfit today.

This ^^ is why I think she did the knot thing-- passive aggressive move for new clothes. mo

Bon
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
He has done it again.......................the man just does not get it!!!
Sidebar 10 seconds into the proceedings!

Bullwinkle
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
CFNews13Casey‎

"Move to sidebar. Judge told Baez to talk quickly because they were supposed to do things like this before 9 am."

#CaseyAnthony -jfell
Twitter - seconds ago

pinkfly
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
So we start with a JB sidebar even after HHBP made it clear that he wanted to clear everything and bring jury in on the hour

Novice Seeker
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
Medina in court today. Haven't seen her there very often.


Especially after Baez threw her under the bus for HHJP for the lack of the expert's official report.

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
Sidebar right off the bat? Geez...they come in at 8:30, don't they? can't they take care of business then?

Tipstaff
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
What happens if she refuses to come out? Can they bring her in KICKING & SCREAMING? lol

Just call Yuri - he has her number.

Eidetic
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
InSession discussing the statement on behalf of George and Cindy; "they do not think she is innocent".

BigFatMommyDog
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
Susan Mears first witness

Lovejac
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
Casey appears very unhappy (and ticked off) to me today.

Maybe she read the article about her parents not believing she's innocent :rolleyes:

Oakley
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
Is the mic off in the courtroom or is it Wesh?

anb
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
OMG!!!!! I cannot believe they came out and said it. Wow!!!!! So proud of them for standing for sweet Caylee. She deserves it.

2goldfish
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
HHJP popped what looked like aspirin or some such. already, too. he's as aggravated as we are :D

Kentjbkent
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
HAHA! HHJP anticipating a headache this morning???

QueenD
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
Goodness did you see ICA look at LDB as she walked by?

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#%21/bobkealing) bob kealing



#CaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23CaseyAnthony) Baez says they have an issue. Before sidebar Perry reminded him this stuff should be handled beforehand.

Macushla
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
Anyone else not have sound

jamiect
06-23-2011, 09:04 AM
We're working on the sound issue.
by Jeff Cousins/WESH.com at 9:03 AM

Serjen
06-23-2011, 09:04 AM
Is Casey not allowed to wear her hair down during trial? Not meant to be snarky about her looks or anything, just curious why she always has it tied back so tightly. Wasn't sure if there is some sort of rule.

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 09:04 AM
bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#%21/bobkealing) bob kealing



#CaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23CaseyAnthony) Boisterous conversation in jury room. Deputy tells them: "okay it's time'l

KenoshaKid
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
Is the mic off in the courtroom or is it Wesh?

website says they're working on it.

susietigger
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
Not to me. She is more worried about how she looks always tucking in the shirt or patting her hair. She is nuts!

I think that is her nervous tick. Like when she is nervous or agitated she grooms.

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
Mark Lippman (attorney for #GeorgeAnthony and #cindyanthony) just slipped a note to prosecutors. Curious.

from wesh live blog

Yellow Rose
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
Mark Lippman (attorney for #GeorgeAnthony and #cindyanthony) just slipped a note to prosecutors. Curious.

QueenD
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
I'm on an ipad. Does anyone have a compatible link for viewing the trial?

: )

Download skyfire app (1.99) and then go to wftv and open video at bottom.

At least it works for iphone that way.

butwhatif?
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
ICA arrives in a soft pink cardi....
Has someone else been sitting in HHJP's chair? The head rest is higher than usual today.

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
Susan Mears, no idea who she is, and apparently, Mr. Baez doesn't care to tell us.

Lovejac
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
JB talking about the gatorade bottle and syringe and disney bag.

Oakley
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
OS has sound - Wesh still does not

TiaM
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
ICA enters the courtroom wearing a lovely light pink
top with matching sweater. Although off the rack,
her ensemble is very stylish.. She appears to be in a somber
mood today. Her hair is swept back in a very coiffured updo.

I wonder if the deputies make her unfurl that everyday before heading back to jail? She could seriously be hiding contraband in there. Pens, drugs, a shank.

monique
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
Anyone else not have sound

I have sound on wftv

beachgal58
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
Goodness did you see ICA look at LDB as she walked by?

Sure did! She hates her.

amysmom
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Anyone else not have sound

Sound on http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

Eileen730
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Do we know if CA is actually being called today?

I heard it on HLN

kantoo
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Mark Lippman (attorney for #GeorgeAnthony and #cindyanthony) just slipped a note to prosecutors. Curious.

they said LDB went back and spoke to the As earlier this am

Novice Seeker
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Anyone else not have sound


use www.clickorlando.com it has sound and two cameras

Lovejac
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Mark Lippman (attorney for #GeorgeAnthony and #cindyanthony) just slipped a note to prosecutors. Curious.

from wesh live blog

Hmmmm, I'm curious, too.....

Yellow Rose
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
I had been fiddling with every volume control on this puter! I didn't have a clue for a while there that I wasn't the only one not hearing anything.

gamom
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Not to me. She is more worried about how she looks always tucking in the shirt or patting her hair. She is nuts!

She does this when she is nervous. In my opinion.

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Does anyone know who Susan Mears is, or what she does? ARG!!

ETA: Nevermind, her occupation is on my screen. But shouldn't BAEZ have told the jury who she is and what her occupation is? I mean, C'mon...really.

Tipstaff
06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
Is Casey not allowed to wear her hair down during trial? Not meant to be snarky about her looks or anything, just curious why she always has it tied back so tightly. Wasn't sure if there is some sort of rule.

Often wondered for security reasons how long an inmate can grow their hair?

Eidetic
06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
This witness is not impressed with Baez.

pinkfly
06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
I have what I believe might be the syringe, yes.......that sounds a little iffy to me if she only thinks so.

Oakley
06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
Wondering if the Gatorade bottle is something Casey 'planted' to cast guilt on someone else.

KenoshaKid
06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
wesh has sound now.

QueenD
06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
they said LDB went back and spoke to the As earlier this am

Must be why the dirty looks ICA gave LDB.

Bon
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
Mark Lippman (attorney for #GeorgeAnthony and #cindyanthony) just slipped a note to prosecutors. Curious.

from wesh live blog

I cannot stand the suspense now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cloud9
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
OS has sound - Wesh still does not

CNN LIVE has sound. :)

beachgal58
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
She does this when she is nervous. In my opinion.


LOL! Then she is nervous A LOT!

MvD
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
what was that about?

Marple
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
Here's the bottle, here's the syringe. No more questions. ???

mombomb
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
6/23/11 - 8:59

SIDEBAR #1 (9:00-9:02)

9:04 - JURY IN

DIRECT EXAMINATION OF SUSAN MEARS BY JB:

She brought with her Defense Ex. CP (gatorade bottle), CR (cardboard), and CO (Disney bag). Marked as Defense Exhibits 34, 35 and 36.

LDB - No objection to these items, but not the syringe. Witness has it with her. Syringe was marked as DE. Marked Exhibit 37.

No further questions.

No Cross.

Witness excused (9:03)

KenoshaKid
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
what a waste of the witness' time.

wenwe4
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
JB w/Susan Mears - asked items bring in - include Gatorade bottle and cardboard the syringe was in, and disney bag - brought in as well....JB holds up various packages and clear plastic bags - witness confirms these items....LDB - object- testimony about the syringe? do you have the syringe? I have what I believe might be the syringe - yes ....hands over.....LDB looks @ white canister - JB introduce item into evidence - get marked per HHBP....hand all to the clerk to receive those items into evidence - no objections from State - receive in evidence

No further questions from either side - witness excused

Tipstaff
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
Judge sounds tired today.

Lovejac
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
And the point of this wittness was.........?

Mare10
06-23-2011, 09:08 AM
what was that?

Yellow Rose
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
Oh yikes, that's my youngest brothers name!

SevenSeas
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
ICA seems upset. Anyone else notice that? Maybe she was informed what her parents now think?

Yep, she got the memo.

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
Steven Shaw up next (I think he is hair?)

scotslass
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
that was Fast wow who is stephen shaw?

KenoshaKid
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
Steven Shaw up next.

Sleuth5
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
what a waste of the witness' time.

He just wants those items entered as evidence.

tehcloser
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
Susan just brought in the evidence from the SO.

MaraSleuth
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
I have sound on wesh

Pita
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
Wondering if the Defense will rest after the forensic evidence saying the state did not prove their case...
That would relieve them of getting out of Jose OP

Just a thought

Novice Seeker
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
I think Baez was hoping the prosecutors would take the bait. NOT!!!!

scotslass
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
okay i remember him now :)

LiveLaughLuv
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
Baez is really pushing this Gatorade bottle...it's a friggin dump site...gee, can he really go on with this insane defense...OH my, I'm loosing faith in our judicial system when an attorney can put an innocent man on trial who hasn't been arrested in connection with Caylee's death...JMHO

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
Dang...blink and you would have missed Ms. Mears testimony! :eek:

What was the point of that?

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
here we go... another prosecution witness LOL

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
Dang...blink and you would have missed Ms. Mears testimony! :eek:

What was the point of that?

to get the syringe into evidence

MvD
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
ICA looks like she is verging on furious.. imo

Novice Seeker
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Oh no, him again. :banghead:

pinkfly
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
keep em coming.....we need poptarts for the defense to get past the technical stuff rather than long droning testimony that looses us.

truthsleuth
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
JB says, "The Defense calls Susan Mears ... for the defense." [I would THINK it would be for the defense.]
JB submits items into evidence.
Witness excused. [Really?]
JB: The Defense calls Stephen Shaw, your honor.
Witness identifies himself.
JB: You have already testified, have you not?
SS: Yes.
HHJP: Accepted as expert witness in trace evidence.
JB shows evidence to SS.

Sleuth5
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Wondering if the Defense will rest after the forensic evidence saying the state did not prove their case...
That would relieve them of getting out of Jose OP

Just a thought

Could be, but I'd bet JB wont rely on that strategy. Not to suggest I think he has much of a strategy, since he is constantly caught flatfooted.

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
talking about his hair study

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Alright, who is Steve Shaw?!

Does Baez realize we've seen ALOT of witnesses and we need refreshers as to who these people are and what they do?!

So aggravating!!

ETA: I do recall Mr. Shaw's face, for what it's worth. :)

Eidetic
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Yay, Shaw is an excellent prosecution witness :)

bobloblaw
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
I have sound on wesh

Why no P.I.P. on WESH? They have changed their screen...

cloud9
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Oh yikes, that's my youngest brothers name!

Mine too! :great:

Insomnia Momma
06-23-2011, 09:12 AM
Please read: It's post #4 in today's news thread.

Orlando attorney Mark Lippman issued the following statement regarding the Anderson Cooper Show on June 22, 2011.

This is to clarify the reporting done by Mr. Tuckman. First Mr. Tuckman was not given an exclusive interview. Mr. Tuckman approached Mark Lippman as he was leaving the Courthouse today and Mr. Lippman spoke with Mr. Tuckman for approximately four minutes. During this conversation Mr. Lippman was attempting to clarify that Mr. Tuckman had allowed other reports that he provided to various news agencies to become embellished . After this was identified to Mr. Tuckman, Mr. Lippman allowed Mr. Tuckman to make speculations regarding the Anthony family and a further conversation ensued. All of the statements given to Mr. Tuckman were not reported on the Anderson Cooper Show. While Mr. Lippman understands that Mr. Tuckman is a reporter, Mr. Lippman holds Mr. Tuckman to the standard that any and all statements should not be taken either out of context or misrepresent the idea that a breach of attorney client privilege was given specifically to him at any time or in any context. This statement will clear any misunderstanding that either Mr. Tuckman had or Mr. Lippman had with regard to the conversation.


Full Article: http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/267833/Report:-Casey-Anthonys-parents-believes-shes-not-innocent

Mendara
06-23-2011, 09:12 AM
Oh Lordy more of this needless testimony.

suzihawk
06-23-2011, 09:12 AM
Not liking the smaller picture on WESH with the big border around it. :(

Dragonlady
06-23-2011, 09:12 AM
ICA looks very angry this morning, check out how she is clenching her jaw.

grammieto5
06-23-2011, 09:12 AM
Dang, that's a regular little hive of lawyers there.

Yes it is, and this is because of the good people of Florida who DO pay their taxes! All this for someone who does NOT pay her taxes.

wenwe4
06-23-2011, 09:12 AM
CM talking intently w/KC

JB w/Stephen Shaw - certified as expert trace evidence hair and fibers -
show items from Defense - appears to be pictures?.....JA takes hold asks JB question they both nod and JB approaches witness - photos taken of certain hairs ....antemortem hairs stored in various conditions during his study (conducted after this case)....antemortem is from live people.....look @ hairs and tell if fair and accurate photos....yes photos taken during the study. Move these items into evidence? sidebar

RammerJammer
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Another sidebar...we're not getting off to a great start, are we?

pinkfly
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Dang...blink and you would have missed Ms. Mears testimony! :eek:

What was the point of that?

gatorade bottle and syringe as promised from yesterday’s testimony

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
did Baez just move the items into evidence that he wanted kept out previously?? (the color pictures)???

TexasDoll
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
2nd sidebar

TortillaChip
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Something must have happened this morning, she does look pizzed. Also I saw the daggers in eyes for LDB. And note passing, and LDB talking to the A's? Maybe they still want to talk to her?

~n/t~
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Sounds like it'll be another day of forensics stuff. *yawn*

LiveLaughLuv
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Why no P.I.P. on WESH? They have changed their screen...

http://media2.myfoxorlando.com/live/casey_cam_shell.html

ICA cam above

scotslass
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Oh Lordy more of this needless testimony.

you mean sidebars :)

Talina
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
And the point of this wittness was.........?

Yesterday there was a sidebar agreement that the witness testifying about the bottle, bag, syringe was provisional until such time as the actual items could be introduced into evidence. The items were not at the court so they could not actually be entered. They had to be brought today for that purpose so now that testimony is no longer provisional.

christee
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Maybe it's just me but I've got a feeling something's up...KC's appearance, somber mood, etc.

2goldfish
06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
I had to use the ladies':blushing: so I may have this wrong but...


JB isnt trying to introduce evidence that he kept the state from introducing cause JB had b&w pics, is he?

pjmale
06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
Baez is really pushing this Gatorade bottle...it's a friggin dump site...gee, can he really go on with this insane defense...OH my, I'm loosing faith in our judicial system when an attorney can put an innocent man on trial who hasn't been arrested in connection with Caylee's death...JMHO

Was the needle tested for DNA by anybody?
Maybe they will RK's DNA was on it.

ahoyhoy
06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
I have sound on wesh

I have that huge blue frame, and now annoying female anchors......I need a pic-in-pic link WITHOUT these WESH talking heads....Any help?

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
gatorade bottle and syringe as promised from yesterday’s testimony

Oh, so she was simply there so JB could enter the bottle and disney bag into evidence?

TexasDoll
06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
Hating the commentary on WESH. I don't care what y'all have to say!

Amity
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Leave it to JB to "forget" again.

Kentjbkent
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
SO I am confused....Baez brings Susan Mears BACK to court this morning for the sole purpose of handing over gatorade bottle, syringe, Disney bag.....let's her go...

And then jumps to hair testimony again???

Where is the expert who is going to testify about the items just submitted???

If I was a juror, I would be confused!

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Sounds like it'll be another day of forensics stuff. *yawn*
I keep trying to catch up to you here!! Good to see you!!!



Sidebar???

Serjen
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
And the point of this wittness was.........?
He brought up these items yesterday without actually having them in evidence (another mistake on Baez part). So the first witness was just to clear up his mess yesterday and bring the items into evidence. It's procedure. He can't just bring them in on his own.

BigFatMommyDog
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Bill S stating that JB forgot to enter these evidence items in during first examination of Mears, so it's a Mulligan. As for Shaw - unknown, but this is the first opportunity to move the evidence in (pics)

FaerieB
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Male jurors in the back 16&17 whispering to each other. Six has arms crossed as he often does.

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
o em g...

baez is about to step in a trap again by doing this LOL

MvD
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
the outfit KC is wearing today is by far the nicest one she's worn, thus far... makes me wonder if she might take the stand today.

SurfieTX
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Most have been donated. “@pal12: @CFNews13Casey Where does casey get all those new clothes she wears everyday?”
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 7:12 AM

Eidetic
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Alright, who is Steve Shaw?!

Does Baez realize we've seen ALOT of witnesses and we need refreshers as to who these people are and what they do?!

So aggravating!!

He works for the FBI he said Caylee's hair in the trunk was at a different degree of decomp than the hair mass. The hair mass was obviously more advanced but he would tell because of the root. The root on the hair mass hairs looked brush like. He also did a study of pulled head hairs from living donors in various environments/conditions such as outdoor exposed to direct sunlight, indoors in a potted plant that had been fertilized, in a car trunk, under a car seat and left them there.

None of the hairs in his study consistent with post mortem banding or "death band".

ljs713
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Ohhh how I wish the DT would get their s**t together and get this trial moving forward for at least an hour. This is getting so old and frustrating.

amysmom
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Was that ICA giving her parents the DEATH stare? She never turns in that direction & did the entire time they were at sidebar.

gamom
06-23-2011, 09:16 AM
LOL! Then she is nervous A LOT!

LOL.I know just somethign I noticed by watching the universal videos. I think it calms her. Or she thinks it makes her look calm one or the other. MOO

TiaM
06-23-2011, 09:16 AM
Please read: It's post #4 in today's news thread.

Orlando attorney Mark Lippman issued the following statement regarding the Anderson Cooper Show on June 22, 2011.

This is to clarify the reporting done by Mr. Tuckman. First Mr. Tuckman was not given an exclusive interview. Mr. Tuckman approached Mark Lippman as he was leaving the Courthouse today and Mr. Lippman spoke with Mr. Tuckman for approximately four minutes. During this conversation Mr. Lippman was attempting to clarify that Mr. Tuckman had allowed other reports that he provided to various news agencies to become embellished . After this was identified to Mr. Tuckman, Mr. Lippman allowed Mr. Tuckman to make speculations regarding the Anthony family and a further conversation ensued. All of the statements given to Mr. Tuckman were not reported on the Anderson Cooper Show. While Mr. Lippman understands that Mr. Tuckman is a reporter, Mr. Lippman holds Mr. Tuckman to the standard that any and all statements should not be taken either out of context or misrepresent the idea that a breach of attorney client privilege was given specifically to him at any time or in any context. This statement will clear any misunderstanding that either Mr. Tuckman had or Mr. Lippman had with regard to the conversation.


Full Article: http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/267833/Report:-Casey-Anthonys-parents-believes-shes-not-innocent

Word salad.

In other words, Lippman never denied Tuckman's "interpretation" of what he said.

CYA so he doesn't appear to break attorney/client privelage IMO.

Sleuth5
06-23-2011, 09:16 AM
Something must have happened this morning, she does look pizzed. Also I saw the daggers in eyes for LDB. And note passing, and LDB talking to the A's? Maybe they still want to talk to her?

Bill Schaefer speculated that the DT may have told her about CA's statement last night regarding her guilt. Her parents believe she is guilty (qualifier -- of something), but don't want her to receive the DP.

my2sense
06-23-2011, 09:16 AM
Hating the commentary on WESH. I don't care what y'all have to say!

hating the tiny pictures, too :maddening:

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:16 AM
SO I am confused....Baez brings Susan Mears BACK to court this morning for the sole purpose of handing over gatorade bottle, syringe, Disney bag.....let's her go...

And then jumps to hair testimony again???

Where is the expert who is going to testify about the items just submitted???

If I was a juror, I would be confused!

Maybe JB is going to try to say that testosterone could cause antimortem hairbanding?

I dunno. He's confusing me already.

BigFatMommyDog
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
oh John J College - to whom could he be referring?

Phoebeb
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
Why no P.I.P. on WESH? They have changed their screen...
I don't like their change- It makes the pics half the regular size.

Linda7NJ
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
I have that huge blue frame, and now annoying female anchors......I need a pic-in-pic link WITHOUT these WESH talking heads....Any help?


link in my siggy

KenoshaKid
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
ICA looks very angry this morning, check out how she is clenching her jaw.

She just looks bored to me. As am I. :crazy:

Oakley
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
ICA looks like she is verging on furious.. imo

Yuppers. Absolutely seething.

dog.gone.cute
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
Sounds like it'll be another day of forensics stuff. *yawn*

:waitasec: I feel like I am watching a "rerun" ...

gamom
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
He works for the FBI he said Caylee's hair in the trunk was at a different degree of decomp than the hair mass. The hair mass was obviously more advanced but he would tell because of the root. He also did a study of pulled head hairs from living donors in various environments such as outdoor exposed to direct sunlight, indoors in a potted plant that had been fertilized, in a car trunk, under a car seat and left them there.

None of the hairs came back consistent with a death band or evidence of decomposition.

I thought he did with well water?

TexasDoll
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
ICA has one eye brow raised very high. She seems really angry.

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#%21/bobkealing) bob kealing



Observations about her are exaggerated and her reactions minimal “@easterntrijet (http://twitter.com/easterntrijet): @bobkealing (http://twitter.com/bobkealing) Zone in on Juror 4 Bob- she's key”

Mamabear1963
06-23-2011, 09:18 AM
Mr. Shaw looks very nervous...like he is going to the gallows or something.

KenoshaKid
06-23-2011, 09:18 AM
JB can't seem to ask an acceptable question. He loves to lead the witness. :)

Tipstaff
06-23-2011, 09:18 AM
Hating the commentary on WESH. I don't care what y'all have to say!

Last time I watched www.orlandosentinel.com didn't have commentary. Switched over to WESH because of the ICA shots - but may have to go back to OS.

pinkfly
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
hearing circus music in my head until JA gets up to make sense of all the ahhhh and ummmmms I hear now.

Sleuth5
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
Maybe JB is going to try to say that testosterone could cause antimortem hairbanding?

I dunno. He's confusing me already.

That's scary! :gasp: You're a Mock Juror! Could his strategy be working?

aprilraindance
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
ICA has one eye brow raised very high. She seems really angry.

I dont know why but to me she always looks the same! Angry & tense. Even when she is laughing to me she seems ticked off. Perhaps it is just my perception of her...

Mamabear1963
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
You know...I just thought of something...do you think that JB is opening the door for that power point display...

I think...he is going to...

Novice Seeker
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
Hating the commentary on WESH. I don't care what y'all have to say!



try www.clickorlando.com

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
LOL... Baez now showing the jury what he wouldn't let them see during the prosecution's case!!!!

oh I cannot wait for cross!!!!

2goldfish
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
what a day already....dr vass in hallway <3, ICA with hair different so I got somethin' new to look at, CA & GA admit she is guilty (of something)....JB acting like he got his law degree out of one of Battle Creek's Finest...

4realtho
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
OMG, JB we have been here and done this! Please check your notes before calling a witness.

bobloblaw
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
I have that huge blue frame, and now annoying female anchors......I need a pic-in-pic link WITHOUT these WESH talking heads....Any help?

I can't find a feed without that annoying frame/border thing! They all have it...

Marple
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
I think it's interesting when JB reiterates (when calling a witness) that this witness is FOR THE DEFENSE. It's as if he believes he can convince the jury, "see, all these experts agree with me!"

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
ICA thought bubble: " Stupid post mortem hair banding! Gah...I HATE SCIENCE!!"

Oakley
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
Not liking the smaller picture on WESH with the big border around it. :(

Disappointed with Wesh. They've also taken to putting on commentary during sidebars, a la IS. Blah, may have to find another 'favorite' site.

jane the dood
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
Oh noes! The dreaded chart!

pinkfly
06-23-2011, 09:19 AM
She just looks bored to me. As am I. :crazy:

As am I

tehcloser
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
During the SA CIC, I hated the commercials. However I now find myself looking forward to them.

Amity
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
the outfit KC is wearing today is by far the nicest one she's worn, thus far... makes me wonder if she might take the stand today.

Same wonder here.
Her hair is much smoother in front. Fresher-looking makeup.
Hmmmmm........

rbrnmw2
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
please pass the Excedrin I feel a migraine coming on

whiteangora
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
Bill Schaefer speculated that the DT may have told her about CA's statement last night regarding her guilt. Her parents believe she is guilty (qualifier -- of something), but don't want her to receive the DP.
Lippman is now saying he was misquoted. He is not admitting or denying how the Anthonys feel about her guilt.

Sleuth5
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
I dont know why but to me she always looks the same! Angry & tense. Even when she is laughing to me she seems ticked off. Perhaps it is just my perception of her...

Oh, I'm with you, all right. She always looks like she's waiting for some unsuspecting victim to happen by. Sort of like a snake.

Omachka
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
Has anyone been able to determine why DT went behind that door?

Bill Schaeffer said he doesn't think he should speculate why they had a meeting with their client but he and the WFTV commentator said it's possible they were discussing the fact that CA and GA have said in the national media that they no longer believe ICA is innocent. Now I suppose they will need to decide whether or not they want to call CA as a witness for the defense.

truthsleuth
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
JB What are we looking at here? (evidence)
SS Hair stored in water for 17 days. Came from living individual. (Has death band!)

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
That's scary! :gasp: You're a Mock Juror! Could his strategy be working?

It has a strategy? :waitasec:

Novice Seeker
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
Could someone please give Baez a crash course on courtroom procedure??

Cherry Baby
06-23-2011, 09:20 AM
Oh Lord help us, the pad and stand came out. I wonder if JB gets the markers that smell like their color? That way even if the jury doesn't understand the scribbling (more like JB) at least there a nice smell. Scratch n Sniff!

SurfieTX
06-23-2011, 09:21 AM
#CaseyAnthony Could be a long, contentious day if first 15 minutes are any indication. #CayleeAnthony.
by bobkealing via twitter at 7:19 AM

Kentjbkent
06-23-2011, 09:21 AM
i LOVE the way this guy TALKS to the jury!!!

QuietStorm
06-23-2011, 09:21 AM
Liquid in the gatorade bottle, study of hairs stored in liquid - where is this going? Was there a hair in the bottle? I don't remember reading about that when the FBI reports on the bottle were first released to the public.

Mendara
06-23-2011, 09:21 AM
Does Jose know that the hair found in the trunk was NOT in water for 17 days?

truthsleuth
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
SS: The examiner identified it initially as death banding in their initial analysis.

Just K
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Was the needle tested for DNA by anybody?
Maybe they will RK's DNA was on it.
Someone mentioned that it could have been planted to point to someone else. Any items at the scene may have been placed there anytime before ICA became a suspect. 31 days to add, take or layer evidence that possibly could assist her if Caylee was ever found

Amster
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
WESH said they are having sound problems....they are showing us what is being shown live on TV so we can get sound. Please be patient....they are working on it.

darcedarce
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Screen shot of the inmate? Anyone?

KenoshaKid
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Talking about false positive on a hair that was caught and corrected.

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
We've already heard this testimony about the experiment/study.

bobloblaw
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Disappointed with Wesh. They've also taken to putting on commentary during sidebars, a la IS. Blah, may have to find another 'favorite' site.

Anyone know how to email WESH?

jamiect
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
More CSI types. No alleged mistress. “@sandy109: @bobkealing. Bob- who is in the hallway ?”
by bobkealing via twitter at 9:21 AM

Eidetic
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
The state calls Stephen Shaw (transcripts)
Stephen Shaw testimony (FBI fiber and textile and hair examiner) - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

SurfieTX
06-23-2011, 09:23 AM
More CSI types. No alleged mistress. “@sandy109: @bobkealing. Bob- who is in the hallway ?”
by bobkealing via twitter at 7:21 AM

Linda7NJ
06-23-2011, 09:23 AM
So Caylees death band hair, found in the trunk.....has a death band because the trunk was underwater?:floorlaugh:

miss plum
06-23-2011, 09:23 AM
"Were both of the examiners aware of this study...that it was a study?"

Florida Native
06-23-2011, 09:23 AM
Disappointed with Wesh. They've also taken to putting on commentary during sidebars, a la IS. Blah, may have to find another 'favorite' site.

I love WFTV. Commentary is good too.

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html

Gracelin
06-23-2011, 09:23 AM
Doesn't the root die once it is pulled?
I am not a chemist..

PGWodehouse
06-23-2011, 09:23 AM
Baez cannot phrase a question properly to save his life.

2goldfish
06-23-2011, 09:23 AM
I noticed that too, but I think maybe that is where she penciled it in, a little higher over one eye than the other.


now that you mention it, you might be right, it never seems to lower...I didnt even know people could DO that...cant people tell by their brow bone where the brow should be?

*rarely plucks* :blushing:

truthsleuth
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
A second examiner did NOT identify it as death banding.

What knowledge did the individuals have to examine this hair?

They knew I had been doing such a study. Did know if I had put any post-mortem hairs in the test.

Examiner 1 did identify one as death banded.
Examiner 2 did identify another hair as death banded.

JB They didn't think this was an actual case they were working on correct? They knew of the test?

SS Yes.

~n/t~
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
Could someone please give Baez a crash course on courtroom procedure??

Good grief. Seriously. Did he just confirm it was a compounded question when Judge Perry sustained? :floorlaugh:

Shelby1
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#%21/bobkealing) bob kealing



More CSI types. No alleged mistress. “@sandy109 (http://twitter.com/sandy109): @bobkealing (http://twitter.com/bobkealing). Bob- who is in the hallway ?”

CementPond
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
There's this but it has no Casey cam (PIP).

http://www.wdbo.com/caseyontrialvideo/


I can't find a feed without that annoying frame/border thing! They all have it...

TexasDoll
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
*yawn*

NBC had a catch phrase for all it's reruns druing summer time..."If you haven't seen it, it's new to you!" This is exactly how I feel right now. Seems like a rerun of the same old, same old.

Oakley
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
I have that huge blue frame, and now annoying female anchors......I need a pic-in-pic link WITHOUT these WESH talking heads....Any help?

WFTV but they also have ad after ad before you get to live pic, and interrupt with more ad's in the middle of testimony :banghead:

nursebeeme
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
oh my.... this is just so bumbling!! "defense evidence" LOL... oh my

ahoyhoy
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
ICA has one eye brow raised very high. She seems really angry.

DIT-TO!
Dang! I wanna believe her hair & clothes look good because I've got no plans today and hopes she takes the stand.

But the amateur psychologist in me says she only dolled up because she's especially angry at her parents. 'Me against the world'--better look good. jmo

Mystic
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
good morning everyone :)

I don't understand why JB is having Mr. Shaw retestify regarding this study. I'm sure the Jury understood it the first time

suzihawk
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
JB should just start every sentence with, 'let me rephrase that'.

Prefaced by, 'aaand', of course.

Dragonlady
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
16914
Here's a screen shot I took this morning of ICA, she is clenching her jaw in anger, I guess she was told mommy and daddy don't think she is innocent anymore.

pinkfly
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
Could someone please give Baez a crash course on courtroom procedure??

like maybe “Law School"

TexasDoll
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
try www.clickorlando.com

Thanks!

debloree
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
Here ya go.

Sleuth5
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
Baez cannot phrase a question properly to save his life.

He seems to have failed to grasp the concept of syntax, that's for sure.

miss plum
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
Has JB asked this witness if he is a stylist?

TiaM
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
LOL... Baez now showing the jury what he wouldn't let them see during the prosecution's case!!!!

oh I cannot wait for cross!!!!

All because he stomped his feet like a toddler throwing a fit because he wasn't proactive in obtaining color photos.

Well he's got them now.

I say - Powerpoint in.

RammerJammer
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
This is grueling for us to hear all this again...I feel for the jury! Grrr!

Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 09:25 AM
good morning everyone :)

I don't understand why JB is having Mr. Shaw retestify regarding this study. I'm sure the Jury understood it the first time

I know I did.

amysmom
06-23-2011, 09:26 AM
Bill Schaeffer said he doesn't think he should speculate why they had a meeting with their client but he and the WFTV commentator said it's possible they were discussing the fact that CA and GA have said in the national media that they no longer believe ICA is innocent. Now I suppose they will need to decide whether or not they want to call CA as a witness for the defense.

bbm

Could this be the strategy all along for the 'supposed' statement given to GT by CA's atty?

grammieto5
06-23-2011, 09:26 AM
CFNews13Casey‎

"Move to sidebar. Judge told Baez to talk quickly because they were supposed to do things like this before 9 am."

#CaseyAnthony -jfell
Twitter - seconds ago

This is confusing. Why does JP let JB do this? Could JP just say no to JB? Why bother to make a rule if it's not going to be followed.

Whisperer
06-23-2011, 09:26 AM
Disappointed with Wesh. They've also taken to putting on commentary during sidebars, a la IS. Blah, may have to find another 'favorite' site.

I can't link the site but it is AKAMI for media player. I think it is on a page at the beginning of the thread and is on a list that one of the poster's puts up on occassion. As soon as I find it I will post the link.

MaraSleuth
06-23-2011, 09:26 AM
The irony - Baez using "junk science" to disprove "junk science".

shotgun09
06-23-2011, 09:26 AM
ICA also had a nice nap yesterday afternoon. Something she hasn't had for awhile. She still looks ready to pounce tho

Amster
06-23-2011, 09:26 AM
WESH is working on the problem!! Be patient, please.