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Oakley
06-23-2011, 04:36 PM
Cindy lied about the stain being there when they bought the car. GA said in his early testimony (when he was actually telling the truth) that there was a basketball sized stain in the trunk. I think he said he put his nose right up on the smell. That was a new stain and CA darn well knows it. GA kept those cars spotless. He would know if there was a new or old stain.
She said ICA and GA drove the car. I call BS on that too.
IMO
ITA George would know as he is the one who washes and details cars, not Cindy.
barrysgirl
06-23-2011, 04:36 PM
Don't we have the cell phone records with pings for the whole family or is it just ICA? cell pings could show exactly where CA was.
wenwe4
06-23-2011, 04:36 PM
JB asks Stenger to look @ specific dates ....firefox did not pick up myspace one...
see 13:39:23 - 1 day earlier on 3/20/08 myspace typed in again...how many times you see myspace visited 83...you understand 83 before 84, and 3/21 is after 3/20...now look @ 3/19/08 look @ 8:36:24 ....3/19 day before the 20th - typed into the browser....how many times show myspace visited then 82....3/13/08 10:37: - no march 13th....
show you mine JB's - big crash sound....
see 81 times - correct....any indication of any myspace on that cashback - you wouldn't except for the one day it has in common - show single day only...that report only has the history on the 21st....on that report does not include myspace.....just 2 columns down - problem on sci-spot - in the netanalysis I believe is 2 rows down....cashback problem with it right...no sir it was netanalysis due to dates and times...don't know if netanalysis report came up with more internet history than casheback - the reports are different....that report you prepared...yes I created the casheback report - you prepared this report but didn't testify to jury about that did you? no sir....SA # 165 - approach witness....you may
prepared that report as well - I did....casheback report for 3/17 you prepared that item of evidence ....
my understanding Mr. Bradley was called into to testify about your report - know why? objection - sustained...
have you ever had another computer expert testify about your reports? object- sustain
may approach just want to recover- I don't believe I have further questions....LDb - talks to him and waits until HHBP calls cross...
LDB you printed out the report...how is it you prepared a casheback generated report- had software - process utilize reports prepared for casheback - simply set program up to display info from those dates....the info was not what you had worked on....why did you have Mr. Bradley look @ your data? If it was an apple program I would ask Steve Jobs...I would ask any developer of a program to do so...in this case Mr. Bradley was the one to ask (about the time difference from day light savings)...
Do see that? do now...
Paradigm92
06-23-2011, 04:36 PM
Isn't it true that if a person is convicted of a crime - such as perjury - that they cannot thereafter profit in any way from the crime? Is it wishful thinking to believe that if she's found guilty of perjury, it could jeapordize her book?
coco puff
06-23-2011, 04:36 PM
I know the sunfire is an older car but surely the previous owners would remember a stain. SHOW ME THE CAR FAX! former owners can easily be found.
chasing.halos
06-23-2011, 04:36 PM
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/05/11/Caylee_%2834%29.jpg
minazoe
06-23-2011, 04:36 PM
IMO , if Cindy ever dia a search for chloroform, it was because she was checking on casey's searches...
I am completely convinced now that I have heard of sleepy dogs, that Casey is a full fledged black widow spider and will, or would have blossomed into a full fleged poisoner, killing off the entire family.
there is a great book by Jerry Bledsoe, about just this type of woman.
looks like she learned to play the game from Cindy. Big time.
grandmaj
06-23-2011, 04:37 PM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
March 25, 2008 was 84th day of year, March 24, 2008 was 83rd day, March 23, 2008 is 82nd day, etc. they are both wrong. #CaseyAnthony
So he is reading this wrong? OMG I hope Hornsby tells the state.
And wouldn't it show which myspace page you went to? Didn't CA say she never even had a MS page until she posted her message about Caylee?
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I remember reading that also. It was recently.
I always clear my cache and delete my history because if you don't do that every so often it slows your computer down. Clearing/deleting that stuff does NOT in any way imply that anyone is hiding something. All it proves is that they would like their computer to run faster.
She selectively deleted a few hours of internet history while leaving 4 years of internet history intact. Does that sound like what you do to maintain your computer speed?
cluciano63
06-23-2011, 04:37 PM
What I am getting from this computer testimony is that maybe the cache-back guy would say what the state wanted him to say...and that there is something hinky about all of cache-back guy's testimony.
I would be tossing all computer-related testimony, if I was a juror, just IMO.
faefrost
06-23-2011, 04:37 PM
I was literally LOL when she was going on about how her company had no means to save her e-mails from 3 years ago. Seriously? Does she really believe this? Kinda like all the imaginary friends? Maybe Cindy thinks she has imaginary e-mails that cannot be traced.
gahhhhhh!
All my opinion of course.
Mel
Apparently nobody has told CA that ALL companies are required to keep 7 years worth of e-mail history in case of litigation or investigation. This is particularly strong in the health care industry.
pcrum12
06-23-2011, 04:37 PM
Hummm, JB got a hold of a computer expert last night it appears.
This guy works for the police dept. I think he is a sgt but LDB just referred to him as detective
LadyL
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
Now that the initial shock of CA's testimony is wearing off, I just had a few thoughts. While in my heart, I still believe CA just perjured herself on the stand, I do wonder about something. What if she was telling the truth and did actually look up chloroform in her search for chlorophyll, like she claims. She did not admit to having looked it up 84 times, but yet somehow, it was looked up that many times. Could it be possible that CA looked it up initially, as she claimed, and then left it open on the computer, ICA saw it and that's what sparked her idea? Honestly, I've always thought Ricardo's "win her over with chloroform" thing was a tiny bit of a leap, and this could actually make more sense. Or, for all we know, ICA could have looked it up before, then when CA went on the computer to look up chlorophyll, chloroform auto filled in on the search engine because the first six letters are the same, and then CA got curious and looked it up. I don't know. I still think CA's lying, but I just thought I'd throw out some scenarios where if she wasn't, that it doesn't mean that ICA didn't do those searches (at least some of them).
Oh, and I, too, am wondering if those dogs were sleepy because they'd been experimented on. My red flags started flying when that was mentioned, too.
[bbm]
entirely possible
and yeah, the dog things is really bugging me now ...
Hisimage
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
Wait a minute--- can they in fact see what was on ALL the tab searches? because if so they can see all that was going at time, right? so CA .. my space and whatever at the same time?
kpalma715
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
Apparently nobody has told CA that ALL companies are required to keep 7 years worth of e-mail history in case of litigation or investigation. This is particularly strong in the health care industry.
I got my fingers crossed!!! :great::woohoo:
Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
How.To. Make. Chloroform. Typed in by hand.
I understood THAT!
faefrost
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
JB always looks great right up until cross starts.
MissJames
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
Isn't it true that if a person is convicted of a crime - such as perjury - that they cannot thereafter profit in any way from the crime? Is it wishful thinking to believe that if she's found guilty of perjury, it could jeapordize her book?
:welcome4: I hope so!
cloud9
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
WHAM!
Google search:
How to make chloroform!
sorrell skye
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
I wanna believe, but I have to admit, I'm feeling less confident in the SA's computer search evidence.
This IT stuff is all over the place, and it seems that this witness is contradicting his previous testimony.
I still have faith.
I wish I could say I did, but I don't :(
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:38 PM
LDB having witness point out search "How to make chloraform" typed out search in google and asked if it would appear that way if searching for chlorophyll (no)
Donjeta
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
I'm not seeing how this cross relates to what JB asked.
Salem
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
Oh I love LDB!
Clearly Confused
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
Are y'all sure this is a message board and not a chat room? lol Can't keep up....
It's a blog...LMAO!:crazy:
Scamperoo
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
Question. How does someone visit 4 different websites in 1 seconds time? How does some one visit 1 website 84 times in 1 seconds time? What am I not understand?
Your information is incorrect, the total time for these searches were hours not minutes this was already elicited by JA. Perhaps you might go back and read what you missed, it is very interesting. Part of the states CIC.
pjmale
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
Can anyone tell my why the inmate is looking so smug and arrogant today?
After CA testified she thinks she is homeFREE and will walk out on CM's arm.
mitzi
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
When JB showed this document to this computer expert was he hiding columns on the excel document?
Kentjbkent
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
And wouldn't it show which myspace page you went to? Didn't CA say she never even had a MS page until she posted her message about Caylee?
And if so, wouldn't it be INTERESTING if it was the Myspace page that declared "Knock Her Out With Cholorform?"
mistermissy
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
For the March 28 2008 CA timecard, it shows she worked from 0800 to 1740 or 9.67 hours for the day and 46.17 for the week. No overtime my azz.
diva3rita
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
"How to make for Chloraform" *Boom* In your face CA- you liar!!
azwriter
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
This is not a devastating blow guys. First of all we have a client who it has been proven will lie walking all the way the Sheriff's Department doing it. Now we have a mother who testified that while her daughter was 7 months pregnant that she was retaining fluid and is an RN and didn't notice that baby bump.
Then we hear that this stain of decomposition was in the car when they bought it. Imagine the incredible bad luck of this family. They must have some sort of curse on them to have this happen to them. They have a daughter that lied, a granddaughter murdered and now this revelation that Cindy fraudulated her time card.
This jury is not dumb. Cindy had selective recall last time called by the State. Now she has this terrific recall and has come very close to perjury.
Give this jury the credit that they are due. Even if they don't know everything that we do, they will see the handwriting on the wall. This is a mother who was not credible and appeared to have make believe searches just like her daughter had make believe friends.
It will come in on rebuttal. There will be some document or some action on the computer of the company that will blow Cindy out of the water. And I wouldn't doubt that a search warrant for those files is pending as we speak. Plenty of time to show Cindy Anthony up for what she is.
:blowkiss: Big deep breath. :)
Thanks grandmaj. This post is like a big, clean, soft bandage.
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
Today has been a good day for the #CaseyAnthony defense. They have done some damage.
by stevehelling via twitter at 3:38 PM
It should seem that google's searching technology has made life more difficult for investigators. The new auto complete features that is.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:38 PM
Jury is looking at what webpages were typed in. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:38 PM
The searches are now published to the jury again.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:37 PM
Soulmagent
06-23-2011, 04:39 PM
Now that the initial shock of CA's testimony is wearing off, I just had a few thoughts. While in my heart, I still believe CA just perjured herself on the stand, I do wonder about something. What if she was telling the truth and did actually look up chloroform in her search for chlorophyll, like she claims. She did not admit to having looked it up 84 times, but yet somehow, it was looked up that many times. Could it be possible that CA looked it up initially, as she claimed, and then left it open on the computer, ICA saw it and that's what sparked her idea? Honestly, I've always thought Ricardo's "win her over with chloroform" thing was a tiny bit of a leap, and this could actually make more sense. Or, for all we know, ICA could have looked it up before, then when CA went on the computer to look up chlorophyll, chloroform auto filled in on the search engine because the first six letters are the same, and then CA got curious and looked it up. I don't know. I still think CA's lying, but I just thought I'd throw out some scenarios where if she wasn't, that it doesn't mean that ICA didn't do those searches (at least some of them).
Oh, and I, too, am wondering if those dogs were sleepy because they'd been experimented on. My red flags started flying when that was mentioned, too.
What if Cindy was looking /hacking into ICA myspace and that is what lead Cindy searching it up?
grammieto5
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
Who is going to buy CA's book now? tsk, tsk
I won't!!! And I won't watch her ($200,000,000.00 movie deal) either!!!! This could just be a rumor but after today I wouldn't be surprised it it's fact.
pinkfly
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
richardhornsby richard hornsby
march 25, 2008 was 84th day of year, march 24, 2008 was 83rd day, march 23, 2008 is 82nd day, etc. They are both wrong. #caseyanthony
o m g
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
LDB - do you have confidence taht dates and times on netanalysis are correct or do you rely on cacheback?
witness: dates and times on both reports appear to be accurate can't speak as to how they are interpreted by programs since didn't write programs
yeknomaras
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
I'm not seeing how this cross relates to what JB asked.
how does it not?!!!!!!!!
After CA testified she thinks she is homeFREE and will walk out on CM's arm.
Which she probably will do :(
TortillaChip
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
good rebuttal for LDB, she is going to make the jury think twice about CA......and JB knows this.....
TotallyObsessed
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
Now that the initial shock of CA's testimony is wearing off, I just had a few thoughts. While in my heart, I still believe CA just perjured herself on the stand, I do wonder about something. What if she was telling the truth and did actually look up chloroform in her search for chlorophyll, like she claims. She did not admit to having looked it up 84 times, but yet somehow, it was looked up that many times. Could it be possible that CA looked it up initially, as she claimed, and then left it open on the computer, ICA saw it and that's what sparked her idea? Honestly, I've always thought Ricardo's "win her over with chloroform" thing was a tiny bit of a leap, and this could actually make more sense. Or, for all we know, ICA could have looked it up before, then when CA went on the computer to look up chlorophyll, chloroform auto filled in on the search engine because the first six letters are the same, and then CA got curious and looked it up. I don't know. I still think CA's lying, but I just thought I'd throw out some scenarios where if she wasn't, that it doesn't mean that ICA didn't do those searches (at least some of them).
Oh, and I, too, am wondering if those dogs were sleepy because they'd been experimented on. My red flags started flying when that was mentioned, too.
AT this point, I would actually believe that CINDY chloroformed Caylee.
belle3
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
Very perceptive question. :crazy: I share your perplexity. I would not have expected CA today to knowingly incriminated herself by deviating from her earlier depo.
But didn't CA say she now has a new and improved memory? Maybe she thinks that will allow her to give differing testimony and get away with it.
As you noted, if CA gave consistent testimony today I don't know why LDB would seem so taken aback.
But I think that any perjury by CA today will more than likely be provable at some point. The state, for instance, should be able to falsify CA's claim to a car trunk stain at the time of purchase. And such a stain at time of purchase would not explain Cindy's own declaration of smelling a dead body in the **** car. :maddening:
u know..... ldb probably thought for a minute, that she had the anthonys cooperation after ca crying, not crying, fit, on the stand. But we must remember that on that day she was simply admitting to the world that ica was a liar. And we already knew that the defense was admitting to that. They,imo, played the sa a bit. But if the sa was smart, as i believe they are, they were prepared for this to happen eventually. I never once saw her tissue wet and even opined that she and casey had the same wipe, dab motion. I think LdB will get her for this one.
Donjeta
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
I don't see why Cindy would have searched for how-to-make-chlorophyll anyway if she was concerned about its effects on her dogs.
Crap folks listened to the proceedings on the way to the doctors. Now in waiting room.
Sounds like the state took a huge hit!!!!
Ok gotta go they will be calling me back any moment. I should be able to join you all tomorrow!!! Take good notes while I'm out!!!!
And above all Justice for Caylee!!!!!!!
Rallihanna
06-23-2011, 04:40 PM
I honestly think I may just have to be done with this case; I can't believe the Anthony's are lying and I don't know that I can continue to watch poor Caylee's memory tarnished.
Scamperoo
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
I know the sunfire is an older car but surely the previous owners would remember a stain. SHOW ME THE CAR FAX! former owners can easily be found.
George mentioned the stain in the trunk as being new.
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
Stenger says the reports are accurate but programs (codes) may have interpreted it differently. #computer #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:40 PM
kantoo
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
So are they trying to say what they used for the computer forensics back in 2008 would be different than what would be used if done more recently?
This was an important point in the recent Brad Cooper trial.....(guilty!)
You would not get the same information today that you would have back then (with a different/older program)
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
When JB showed this document to this computer expert was he hiding columns on the excel document?
JB showed him the paper doc not electronic - jury couldn't see it - this way jury can see it
bobjanie
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
Today, after trying earnestly to sympathize with Cindy and George, I now believe to the core they are all liars and their world is just a compilation of fabrication. Dang it---I really wanted someone in the family to be truthful.
Turtles
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
Now that the initial shock of CA's testimony is wearing off, I just had a few thoughts. While in my heart, I still believe CA just perjured herself on the stand, I do wonder about something. What if she was telling the truth and did actually look up chloroform in her search for chlorophyll, like she claims. She did not admit to having looked it up 84 times, but yet somehow, it was looked up that many times. Could it be possible that CA looked it up initially, as she claimed, and then left it open on the computer, ICA saw it and that's what sparked her idea? Honestly, I've always thought Ricardo's "win her over with chloroform" thing was a tiny bit of a leap, and this could actually make more sense. Or, for all we know, ICA could have looked it up before, then when CA went on the computer to look up chlorophyll, chloroform auto filled in on the search engine because the first six letters are the same, and then CA got curious and looked it up. I don't know. I still think CA's lying, but I just thought I'd throw out some scenarios where if she wasn't, that it doesn't mean that ICA didn't do those searches (at least some of them).
Oh, and I, too, am wondering if those dogs were sleepy because they'd been experimented on. My red flags started flying when that was mentioned, too.
BBM, your post just made me think that these searches or even a conversation about chloroform/chlorophyll gave KC the idea to make Caylee sleepy. This has probably been discussed, I am many pages behind.
tehcloser
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
TUMS anyone?
mimmy03
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
Wasn't she using myspace to write that letter to Casey about Caylee? But 84 times is a lot!
i thought the 84 times search was back in march (or some time prior to caylee's disappearing).
from what i recall CA didn't get on myspace or FB til june or july when she couldn't get ahold of ICA and hadn't seen caylee for x amount of days.
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:41 PM
LDB - myspace entry and how to make chloraform 20 sec apart
And wouldn't it show which myspace page you went to? Didn't CA say she never even had a MS page until she posted her message about Caylee?
Bingo!
YES it would show that and NO Cindy did not have a MySpace page until Lee set one up for her until July 3. Both testifed to that and records back that up (at least they told the truth about 1 thing)
cecybeans
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Booyah! MS entries and chloroform searches are 20 seconds apart. Go Linda.
bookworm474
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Did a dog die and CA suspected someone chloroformed the dog or used something else?
Guess either a lie or no about to admit anything.
A sleepy dog or a sleepy child--bet-ya,,,bet-ya
coloradoteacher
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
So he is reading this wrong? OMG I hope Hornsby tells the state.
But wouldn't that mean that the chloroform website was not visited 84 times?
I mean it does not change the fact that chloroform was found in ICA's car, but still....
x_files
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Oh, I believe CA and GA have sone responsibility for the way ICA turned out, but my thoughts on this matter are not as lofty as yours.
I am trying to understand this case. It is the most frustrating case I've follow in awhile.
I want to give them the benefit of doubt and have compassion towards them because of their situation, but sometimes it is really challenging.
I'd love to know the Truth but, we may never know the truth unless there's lie detector tests administered with sodium pentothal.
How to make chloraform and myspace were 20 seconds apart. Cindy and Casey must have been in and out of that computer chair like poptarts.
Sleuths4Me
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Boom! MS and How to make chloroform 20sec apart
newsjunkie
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Witness refuting CA's testimony about what was searched. "How to make chloroform" searched within 20 seconds of myspace.
How. To. Make. Chloroform....well, that's pretty much spelled out in plain English, huh?
goldenlover
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
She selectively deleted a few hours of internet history while leaving 4 years of internet history intact. Does that sound like what you do to maintain your computer speed?
I delete mine too all the time because it slows the computer down. I just use "delete browsing history" I am not sure what it is deleting, it could delete it all or just a few hours. What my computer is doing in the background I am not sure of. I still think something is wrong with this evidence. This has bothered me from the first time I heard it.
Donjeta
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
how does it not?!!!!!!!!
I didn't hear an explanation yet about why it appears that the 84 comes from cumulative myspace visits and why the cacheback program didn't list myspace.
Maybe I just didn't understand it.
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Can anyone tell my why the inmate is looking so smug and arrogant today?
Cuz mommy dearest is back to lying for her
suzet
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
ITA George would know as he is the one who washes and details cars, not Cindy.
I agree, it's just that we can't believe ANYTHING ANY of the A's say under oath or otherwise and that, unfortunately, imo, includes George.
A part of me still does not believe his explanation of June 16 -- the "bye, Dad, I'm going to work" carp. I dunno... it just doesn't sit well with me. And I guess we'll never know the truth.
Z-sleuth
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
MySpace and How to Make Chloroform searches were 20 seconds apart. Busted!
USARDOG
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
How to make chloroform, and myspace search 20 seconds apart
MissDiva
06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Oh my. I love you, LDB. Remind me to never break a law in FL.
LongtimeMedic
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
If reasonable doubt didn't exist before, it certainly does now, and that means we may not see true Justice for Caylee. The State wrecked this when they focused on ICA and ignored obvious issues with the family early on. I'm afraid that the State drew a few too many hasty conclusions at the beginning. The product of a botched investigation of a well concocted cover-up of an fatal incident. That is what is the saddest about this. JMOO
Socprof
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
Stick a fork in me, I'm done...for today, anyway. Waaaay too much excitement. Can you say: PERJURY? I think CA is a professional victim and will enjoy going to jail for her heartless daughter.
Perhaps CA fancies herself a good old martyr for her daughter. But she's also a witness who perjured herself, and that might mean some jail time. She can sit and think about how her daughter has destroyed not just Caylee, but the entire family. And maybe George will finally have some peace from these female sociopaths.
Roy23
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
AT this point, I would actually believe that CINDY chloroformed Caylee.
WHAT????????????????
Cindy ain't gonna be the reason her daughter gets death. And this whole thing is about premeditation. Cindy will destroy Casey on everything else.
LadyL
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
I wish one of the talking heads would address the fact that Cindy mentioned the check fraud charges and whether that opened the door. It seems HUGE to me that she mentioned that, so much so that I would think Jose would ask for that answer to be stricken & for the jury to disregard or something?
can someone who has twitter ask Richard Hornsby about this?
TotallyObsessed
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
For the March 28 2008 CA timecard, it shows she worked from 0800 to 1740 or 9.67 hours for the day and 46.17 for the week. No overtime my azz.
Usually, big companies have a clock in and clock out system on their computer. If you are salaried you don't get PAID extra money for working over, but the computer is just to keep up with employees logging in and logging out. Hopefully, Gentiva has a system similar and hopefully the state has that information already.
Beyond Belief
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
So what are we trying to prove here?
jon_burrows
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/05/11/Caylee_%2834%29.jpg
Is that the winnie the pooh blanket found with her remains next to her right knee?:(
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
jury includes one IT expert. He gets all of this very well. Another juror has no computer and she has no Internet.
by kerrynbc via twitter at 3:42 PM
JenniferTx
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
Today has not been a very good day for the state. Casey is really gonna be cocky now.
Melanie
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
her dog was sleepy? wonder if Casey was trying it out on the dog?
:ohwow:
Hadn't thought of that! OMG.
Here doggie doggie doggie. In many cases, killers abuse/kill animals before moving on to humans.
countzero
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
This guy works for the police dept. I think he is a sgt but LDB just referred to him as detective
Oops I was referring to JB's comment the other day about releasing his computer guy. Sorry about that.
grandmathatadopted2
06-23-2011, 04:43 PM
I joined here early on in the case, but I never post,just lurk. Just wondering, did Cindy use sunpass on her car? If so, it would confirm her work hours, right? I remember some discussion about George's sunpass, but do not remember anything about Cindy.
Crap folks listened to the proceedings on the way to the doctors. Now in waiting room.
Sounds like the state took a huge hit!!!!
Ok gotta go they will be calling me back any moment. I should be able to join you all tomorrow!!! Take good notes while I'm out!!!!
And above all Justice for Caylee!!!!!!!
Good luck with your surgery JSR.
If Cindy deposed that she looked up chlorophyll and that search is on the computer at the same time “chloroform” was looked up then they cannot dispute that she was home that day, at that time.
Broderick
06-23-2011, 04:44 PM
chuckled at Baez there.... lol.
TotallyObsessed
06-23-2011, 04:44 PM
WHAT????????????????
Cindy ain't gonna be the reason her daughter gets death. And this whole thing is about premeditation. Cindy will destroy Casey on everything else.
What???
Cindy destroy ICA. What trial have you watched today?
Sweetbaboo
06-23-2011, 04:44 PM
I was literally LOL when she was going on about how her company had no means to save her e-mails from 3 years ago. Seriously? Does she really believe this? Kinda like all the imaginary friends? Maybe Cindy thinks she has imaginary e-mails that cannot be traced.
gahhhhhh!
All my opinion of course.
Mel
Cindy probably hopes that by saying her company doesn't save emails, the State and LE won't even bother checking. Dream on Cindy, dream on.
alwaysonmymind
06-23-2011, 04:44 PM
Baez has become amazingly techy, hasn't he?? :innocent:
Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
JB: Not gonna get your cash back? *snicker*
jerk.
I delete mine too all the time because it slows the computer down. I just use "delete browsing history" I am not sure what it is deleting, it could delete it all or just a few hours. What my computer is doing in the background I am not sure of. I still think something is wrong with this evidence. This has bothered me from the first time I heard it.
I don't think it rewinds 3 months and then deletes a few hours. I'm not being snarky. I mean i can't see how that could have selectively happened automatically via computer program - just a few entries deleted and not even the latest ones, just ones from several months prior.
sappysoul
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Dear Lord don't let the protesters show up again at the A home. There has been enough hatefulness in this case to last a lifetime. Don't give the A family a reason to portray themselves as victims again.
Turnadot
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Crap folks listened to the proceedings on the way to the doctors. Now in waiting room.
Sounds like the state took a huge hit!!!!
Ok gotta go they will be calling me back any moment. I should be able to join you all tomorrow!!! Take good notes while I'm out!!!!
And above all Justice for Caylee!!!!!!!
Good luck at the doctors!!
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Perhaps CA fancies herself a good old martyr for her daughter. But she's also a witness who perjured herself, and that might mean some jail time. She can sit and think about how her daughter has destroyed not just Caylee, but the entire family. And maybe George will finally have some peace from these female sociopaths.
Sadly, I doubt cindy will ever be held accountable for anything.. she will play the martyr for the rest of her life.
justanother
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Maybe someone should test that theory about the auto refresh? And while being objective, i just opened Firefox and used google to start typing Chlorophyll and Chloroform came up after chlor was typed.
[QUOTE=cityslick;6744401]This may be dry and everyone is still hung up on CA but what is actually going on right now is relevant. It may show inconsistancies in the computer forensics.[/QUOTE
I agree. It sounds like the computer browser...I think they said Modzilla..had an auto refresh. Most browsers do that if they are set that way, expecially Modzilla. These sites were probably not visited 84 times. Something is wrong with the computer forensics. Have to look at this objectively.
newsjunkie
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Slimy question: Did you have any OTHER problems with the Cache Back program? Answer: I didn't have ANY problems with the Cache Back program.
Broderick
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
FINALLY TABS!!!! was driving me nuts throughout all the computer testimony in this trial.
ugh.
Thanks LBD!
TotallyObsessed
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
I joined here early on in the case, but I never post,just lurk. Just wondering, did Cindy use sunpass on her car? If so, it would confirm her work hours, right? I remember some discussion about George's sunpass, but do not remember anything about Cindy.
GOOD LORD WOMAN. You are right. I think the whole family used Sunpass.
teedie2
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Was the link given for the myspace account they keep referring to?
my2sense
06-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Tabs. FINALLY.
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
LDB - may only have it up for 3 min but doesn't show how long it may have been open in different tabs or if printed.
Soulmagent
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
If reasonable doubt didn't exist before, it certainly does now, and that means we may not see true Justice for Caylee. The State wrecked this when they focused on ICA and ignored obvious issues with the family early on. I'm afraid that the State drew a few too many hasty conclusions at the beginning. The product of a botched investigation of a well concocted cover-up of an fatal incident. That is what is the saddest about this. JMOO
I dunno I am not feeling anything is sure here . I suspect a mistrial before this girl gets off these charges ,and I think it reasonable doubt get to far away from the SA they will cause one.
The Eunice Burns
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Today, after trying earnestly to sympathize with Cindy and George, I now believe to the core they are all liars and their world is just a compilation of fabrication. Dang it---I really wanted someone in the family to be truthful.
I'm reassured to know that my cynicism and suspicion about the As is still well founded. Never doubted myself. Their behavior from the start was shady. I feel bad for LE and SA who have been stymied by the As from the time they left Johnson's. MO
gibby207
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Go Linda Go!
faefrost
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Question. How does someone visit 4 different websites in 1 seconds time? How does some one visit 1 website 84 times in 1 seconds time? What am I not understand?
It will depend on what the analysis program is hitting on or looking at. Some programs (such as the net analysis I suspect) are recording links made. So each time you go forward and back on a link it records, page refreshes may record, and any website may include materials or links from other web pages. multiple sub links within a page may trigger etc. Whereas the category "typed" means that it was keyboard input.
cluciano63
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
What did RH say about 84th day of the year?
TortillaChip
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Hah, go LDB !!!!!!!
sorrell skye
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
AT this point, I would actually believe that CINDY chloroformed Caylee.
I don't believe that for a single second.
MissJames
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
It will be interesting to see if CA has body guards in tow when she leaves. I imagine todays testimony will incite a new wave of protesters
this "TAB STUFF"
that's right Jose
Kentjbkent
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
How come every time I hear Baez bark "CACHE BACK", I have images of him selling his car title to get some CASH BACK??!!!
yeknomaras
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
GOOD LORD WOMAN. You are right. I think the whole family used Sunpass.
omg the state needs to think of that!!!!!!!
mombomb
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Attorney's and HHJBP back 3:55
SIDEBAR (Jury not present) (3:55-4:10)
Jury back at 4:10
JB and LDB are trying to come to agreement as to what pages of the report will be entered into evidence.
DIRECT EXAMINATION OF DETECTIVE STINGER BY JB - continued:
He has reviewed Defense Exhibit DK. LDB does not object to the relevant parts as being moved into evidence (tabbed pages). His Honor told JB to remove the tabbed pages so that they can be marked into evidence.
Item DK (tabbed pages only) marked as Defense Exhibit 45.
This is a report of the deleted Firefox internet history using a program called Net Analysis. A competing software to Cache Back? Yes. Report run before having Cache Back? Yes.
He met Mr. Bradley in December of 2009.
Did you advise Mr. Bradley you had problems with his software?
OBJECTION - leading - SUSTAINED
He asked Mr. Bradley if he could use his tool to examine the items he had found in the unallocated space. They had encountered a problem with Net Analysis due to dates and times not being displayed properly because the time period included daylight savings time change.
Cache Back recover more files? He did not know. He did not know if they recovered the same number of files. Mr. Bradley needed some time to fix the issue - it was at least a day.
Did he have to rewrite the software?
OBJECTION - personal knowledge - SUSTAINED
Did you receive a report that you utilized that indicated he had to rewrite his software?
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED - same question
He was directed to the entry at 3/21/08 - 14:16:34. The website addressed was www.sci-spot.com/chemistry/chloroform.htm - 1 visit.
State's evidence #166 - same website at 15:16:13 - this is the Cache Back report and showed the website was visited 84 times. He agreed there was a difference between the two softwares.
14:16:13 on Net Analysis report - 4 websites with that time. First one- www.myspace.com - (report says website was typed in) 84 visits. He did not see an entry around the same time in the Cache Back report for My Space.
JB - could your Honor publish? I'm having technical issues again.
Net Analysis showed 1 visit for chloroform and MySpace was visited 84 times.
3/20/08 at 13:39:23 - myspace typed in again - 83 visits.
3/19/08 at 08:36:24 - myspace typed in browser - 82 visits.
3/13/08 at 10:37: - witness said he had no March 13 dates. JB then showed him his copy and the witness said he saw it. 3/13/08 - myspace typed entry - 81 visits.
You would not see these Cache Back report because the Cache Back report was for the one single day of the 21st. It did not include the myspace that was visited 84 times, which was two columns down on the Net Analysis report showing Chloroform visited 84 times. The Net Analysis report was having problems with date and time.
Because it was just an hour off?
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED
They were having problems with the dates and times.
Now you know that the Net Analysis report came up with more internet history? The reports ARE different.
He created the Cache Back report. He did not testify about that report.
State's Exhibit 165 - he prepared this report - a Cache Back report for 3/17. He did not testify about this report. He understands Mr. Bradley did.
Do you know why Mr. Bradley testified about his report?
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED - witness is not competent to answer that.
Have you ever had another computer expert testify about your reports?
OBJECTION - relevance - SUSTAINED
No further questions by JB
CROSS EXAMINATION BY LDB
You printed out the Cache Back report, but Mr. Bradley collected the data?
OBJECTION - hearsay - SUSTAINED
He had access to the developer to examine it - so he asked him to do it.
He was shown page 1 of Defense Exhibit 45. Do you see any of the Google searches done on 3/21/08? 8 rows above is a Google search. The Google search for How to Make Chloroform would be in the expanded Column H right above the myspace. Chloroform was spelled with and "A"
OBJECTION - outside of scope - OVERRULED
When you type a search into Google, you will see the results of the words you typed in the bar and that includes all the words that you actually typed into the search - HOW TO MAKE CHLORAFORM were entered. It would not appear that way if someone typed in how to make CHLOROPHYLL.
Do you have confidence that the dates and times on the Net Analysis report are correct, or would you rely on the Cache Back report for dates and times for the internet searches in the history? The dates and times on the two different reports appear to be accurate. He can't speak to how they were interpreted because he did not write the code for either program.
14:16:34 displayed the search for chloroform.
Even in the Net Analysis and the myspace.com and the how to make chloroform at 20 seconds apart.
No further questions.
REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY JB
The visits for chloroform on the Net Analysis report show that on 3/21/08 were the first time they were visited - one time - right? According to the Net Analysis report, correct.
The total amount of time spent on those websites - looking at chloroform - before moving on? Approximately 3 minutes.
Cache Back was purchased after the Net Analysis software and it doesn't have certain items that the Net Analysis does.
Not going to get your cash back?
Move to Strike sarcastic comment - SUSTAINED
RECROSS BY LDB
Even if it shows it was done in a 3 minute timespan, it does not negate that the user could be opening up more pages. Each tab could be opened for minutes or hours until the user decides to close the tab. The report does not tell how long the person spent reading or whether they printed the item.
REDIRECT EXAM BY LDB
The report doesn't give any info about the tabs. He does not know if that ever happened.
No one has told him that any pages were printed out about chloroform.
Witness was excused at 4:46
wenwe4
06-23-2011, 04:46 PM
summary (computer problems)
LDB-internet cacheback and netanalysis - 20 seconds apart - doesn't tell you how long they were looking @ that page or those tabs ....it could be continuation of previous searches...
Jb just speculating on the amount of time right - correct
next witness
Scamperoo
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
I honestly think I may just have to be done with this case; I can't believe the Anthony's are lying and I don't know that I can continue to watch poor Caylee's memory tarnished.
I feel you....when these tarnished people are willing to lie steal murder and perjure themselves to keep from being held accountable, it makes me just want to leave them to their hell. C & G would be forever looking over their shoulders wondering if they were the actual target of their murderous daughter. Morally and spiritually bankrupt the whole lot of them...
SevenSeas
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Uhm, quick question here
Did Al Gore, in fact invent the Gentiva Internet? :crazy:
miimaa
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Usually, big companies have a clock in and clock out system on their computer. If you are salaried you don't get PAID extra money for working over, but the computer is just to keep up with employees logging in and logging out. Hopefully, Gentiva has a system similar and hopefully the state has that information already.
Also there would be data as to whether Cindy logged in to her work computer and when she logged out.
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
LDB asks about extra tabs opened while on webpage - it doesn't show how long visited and what was done correct? Stenger says correct.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:46 PM
strach304
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Go Linda! Covered tabs and printouts. Just what we have been questioning here.
cloud9
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Wow! LDB brought up how the Tabs being opened... can't really know how long someone was on a page.
:great::great::great:
Beyond Belief
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
my 89 yr old mother hits the tv with a fly swatter every time they show JB.:floorlaugh:
Murphismo
06-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Subsequent "education"
:great:
greycoupon
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
"this tab stuff" Well, he pushed it and was sarastic as usual, but overall JB seems to be doing pretty well this afternoon
I'm just glad someone finally thought of tabbed browsing.
Donjeta
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
I'm thinking maybe the chloroform is a red herring and Caylee drowned after all, but not accidentally.
belladonna
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
Stick a fork in me, I'm done...for today, anyway. Waaaay too much excitement. Can you say: PERJURY? I think CA is a professional victim and will enjoy going to jail for her heartless daughter.
Perhaps CA fancies herself a good old martyr for her daughter. But she's also a witness who perjured herself, and that might mean some jail time. She can sit and think about how her daughter has destroyed not just Caylee, but the entire family. And maybe George will finally have some peace from these female sociopaths.
Wonderful post!!!!!! AMEN...Run GA Run!!!
coloradoteacher
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
I don't think I am going to be able to watch the shows tonight and see the smugness of LKB.
jeepgirlva
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
u know..... ldb probably thought for a minute, that she had the anthonys cooperation after ca crying, not crying, fit, on the stand. But we must remember that on that day she was simply admitting to the world that ica was a liar. And we already knew that the defense was admitting to that. They,imo, played the sa a bit. But if the sa was smart, as i believe they are, they were prepared for this to happen eventually. I never once saw her tissue wet and even opined that she and casey had the same wipe, dab motion. I think LdB will get her for this one.
IMO Cindy's breakdown on the stand was phoney or crying for herself ..
yeknomaras
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
who can get a hold of the state? I know we have sent them info before.
Can someone let them know to check the Sunpass records for the A's cars?
TortillaChip
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
Jose wants the last word today......and is holding up the next witness.
LyndyLoo
06-23-2011, 04:48 PM
Hummm all this puter stuff reminds me of the Cooper trial...Yikes..
I am very upset with CA right now..and I also hope she is proven to have perjured herself..Maybe this jury would cut her a break for lying or trying cover for her daughter..however a court will not!!
Never mind Caylee..LDB,JA and George are on your team as is most here at W/S..:rocker: Justice will prevail:seeya:
TotallyObsessed
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
I don't believe that for a single second.
And I respect your opinion.
veejaye
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
If she gets her acquitted and home she will put in time out for a week then all will be good in the Anthony home they will go back to LA LA land ...and Casey can give them a new baby .. sorry just venting
They permit their lawyer to give an interview saying that don't believe Casey is innocent. They give testimony during the prosecution's case in chief saying that Casey lied to them. And then Cindy comes back to the stand during the defense's case in chief and says what?!!!! If she comes back to live with them, I suggest they hire a food taster and sleep with one eye open.
pinkfly
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
Glad to hear that Bill S thinks state did a very good job of rehabilitating the witness since I wasn’t following closely.....still shell shocked
LongtimeMedic
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
I dunno I am not feeling anything is sure here . I suspect a mistrial before this girl gets off these charges ,and I think it reasonable doubt get to far away from the SA they will cause one.
I almost expect a plea bargain being thrown in to try and get out of this with no conviction.
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
AT this point, I would actually believe that CINDY chloroformed Caylee.
I've always believed her capable
If reasonable doubt didn't exist before, it certainly does now, and that means we may not see true Justice for Caylee. The State wrecked this when they focused on ICA and ignored obvious issues with the family early on. I'm afraid that the State drew a few too many hasty conclusions at the beginning. The product of a botched investigation of a well concocted cover-up of an fatal incident. That is what is the saddest about this. JMOO
Since I've heard almost no one else say this about what legal analysts believe is a very strong State case and a very weak/botched defense, I'm hoping the jurors feel more as the majority of observers do.
sappysoul
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
I joined here early on in the case, but I never post,just lurk. Just wondering, did Cindy use sunpass on her car? If so, it would confirm her work hours, right? I remember some discussion about George's sunpass, but do not remember anything about Cindy.
There are a number of ways they can catch her and they will IMO. I hope they think to check this one out. Good catch.
gibby207
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
I wonder if people will protest the conference. I wonder if trash will be thrown.
Beyond Belief
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
done for the day, wow, i'm surprised. :great:
Murphismo
06-23-2011, 04:49 PM
I'm thinking maybe the chloroform is a red herring and Caylee drowned after all, but not accidentally.
IMO WHATEVER happened to make little Caylee dead did NOT happen in good faith. Intentional? Unintentional? Dunno for certain, but I'd bet my prada boots it sure as heck wasn't "accidental"
ahoyhoy
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
this "TAB STUFF"
that's right Jose
There are IT people (2?) on the jury, and this is an easy thing to explain, if someone else is not familiar. I am very confident at least 1 jury member can make this clear to others.
btw, 'tab stuff' is totally insulting to the 90% of the public who uses the internet, IMO.
christee
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
In CAs depo she said:
"I may have looked up the ingredients of Chloroform. I may have looked up the ingredients but not how to make it."
If CA can remember seeing an insignificant pop-up I would think she would remember saying that.
GiantPickle
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
The SA needs to bring back to back Cindy and the computer guy and ask again if Cindy has a myspace and then ask again when the myspace search went on in relation to the how to make chloroform search
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
I almost expect a plea bargain being thrown in to try and get out of this with no conviction.
Casey accepting a plea? Doubt it!
cecybeans
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Maybe CA is trying to reverse all the sympathy the jury felt for her when she was crying over Caylee so that they won't be afraid to go all the way with the DP. Because her arrogance in adding even more hulamoola to her original perjurious statements about chlorophyll are not likely to sit well with a jury.
Kentjbkent
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Maybe someone should test that theory about the auto refresh? And while being objective, i just opened Firefox and used google to start typing Chlorophyll and Chloroform came up after chlor was typed.
[quote=goldenlover;6744504]
Okay,......but remember....this expert just testified to the spelling of chloroform in the actual search....
Search spelled it incorrectly "ChlorAform"...
Emeralgem
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
IMO Cindy's breakdown on the stand was phoney or crying for herself ..
Like mother..Like daughter
indicat
06-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Does anyone remember, is one of the juryors tech savy? If anybody with a basic knowledge of computers is on the jury they will be able to explain all the holes in Cindy's liar liar testimony. This all really can be pinned down and Cindy shown to be lying.
I don't think I am going to be able to watch the shows tonight and see the smugness of LKB.
PBS has some fine new Poirot mysteries online that are much better than ANYTHING you could see tonight, is my guess. pbs.org.
Enjoy!
The state will be working overtime tonight. Cindy's bombshell and the seeming inconsistencies between the two reports have just blown a big hole in the premeditation aspect of this.
my2sense
06-23-2011, 04:51 PM
my 89 yr old mother hits the tv with a fly swatter every time they show JB.:floorlaugh:
:floorlaugh:
LambChop
06-23-2011, 04:51 PM
Wonderful post!!!!!! AMEN...Run GA Run!!!
Labor laws require in most states that records be kept for at least 7 years regarding timecards. No one but the individual is suppose to sign their card and it suppose to be signed and/or signed off on their individual computer under their ID and password. Obviously her employer still has those records and they will probably come back to haunt her. jmo
GiantPickle
06-23-2011, 04:51 PM
proffer of nick savage and someone else.
grammieto5
06-23-2011, 04:51 PM
WOW, I know if I were on that jury I sure would want to talk about CA's testimony, what a bummer for these guys
Eidetic
06-23-2011, 04:51 PM
They should have asked Cindy to do a step by step explanation of how to delete internet history. The searches she now claims today to making were all deleted.
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:51 PM
The issue with the programs recovering different data-
we are taling about recovering deleted information from a hard drive - firefox if I recall. I have no direct experience but it isn't an exact science and pulling the data in a readable format is probably a 'trick'. It appears that Cacheback had to have some 'adjustments' which have now improved things and Netanalysis still has date/time issues. The fact that the user typed in 'myspace' - may just not have occurred within the time period or the dataset given to the gentleman who owned Cacheback...
MOO
Socprof
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
Subsequent "education"
Yes, that was an amusing moment in a tense afternoon. :sigh:
allycat1208
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
I wish one of the talking heads would address the fact that Cindy mentioned the check fraud charges and whether that opened the door. It seems HUGE to me that she mentioned that, so much so that I would think Jose would ask for that answer to be stricken & for the jury to disregard or something?
can someone who has twitter ask Richard Hornsby about this?
cindy mentioned the check fraud charges today?
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
Does anyone remember, is one of the juryors tech savy? If anybody with a basic knowledge of computers is on the jury they will be able to explain all the holes in Cindy's liar liar testimony. This all really can be pinned down and Cindy shown to be lying.
Yes, per earlier tweet:
jury includes one IT expert. He gets all of this very well. Another juror has no computer and she has no Internet.
by kerrynbc via twitter at 3:42 PM
TortillaChip
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
geesh, CM wakes up today!!!
Does anyone remember, is one of the juryors tech savy? If anybody with a basic knowledge of computers is on the jury they will be able to explain all the holes in Cindy's liar liar testimony. This all really can be pinned down and Cindy shown to be lying.
I believe there are 2 jurors who work in IT, so surely they will be able to further explain any of the computer stuff to the other jurors.
1tasha
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
JB: Not gonna get your cash back? *snicker*
jerk.
Born to be a used car salesman. No offense to used car salesmen.
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
Ashton is claiming heresay. He wants a proffer before questioning in front of jury. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:52 PM
#JoseBaez appears to be in a marvelous mood right now.
by stevehelling via twitter at 3:52 PM
next two witnesses (called tomorrow) is FBI agents.Nick Savage & another. State says they've only ever been told info -no direct knowledge
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:51 PM
kinsey milhoune
06-23-2011, 04:52 PM
Anyone notice how Cindy didn't seem a bit mournful today at all, but actually snotty & cocky when questioned by the state?
2goldfish
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
GOOD LORD WOMAN. You are right. I think the whole family used Sunpass.
so how do I text LDB and tell her, I've been dying for the chance :loveyou:
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
CM complaining that they have to 'tell in advance' what they are asking Erin Martin and Nick Savage to testify to - State says they have no direct testimony.
State says Erin Martin does not do anything but process evidence and hand it to someone else
SyraKelly
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
It will be interesting to see if CA has body guards in tow when she leaves. I imagine todays testimony will incite a new wave of protesters
and they brought it all on themselves
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
Mason says it's weird to give State a preview of questioning. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:53 PM
State says witnesses would only testify to hearsay. Wants to know what they will testify to.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:52 PM
Mason talking about what next few witnesses will testify to.
by Jessica Steck/WESH.com at 3:52 PM
pinkfly
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
Wow CM sure has arrogance down to a science........JA wants proffer and CM has no plans to let him here what his witnesses have to say
Does anyone know what time the presser from the Anthonys will be?
angeleleven
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
I don't think I am going to be able to watch the shows tonight and see the smugness of LKB.
EXACTLY. I don't think I would dare to listen to her now.
Anadarko
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
I wish there were subtitles for when CM is speaking...
my 89 yr old mother hits the tv with a fly swatter every time they show jb.:floorlaugh:
lolololol
concentric
06-23-2011, 04:53 PM
How come every time I hear Baez bark "CACHE BACK", I have images of him selling his car title to get some CASH BACK??!!!
IMO, How come during those times I heard JB asking the witness if he had any trouble with getting the cache back, I hear code of "cash back" from JB reminding the witness that he was paid to testify for the defense and he better deliver?
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
Mason says he will ask them about what they did with this case and client
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:53 PM
MessySanders
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/110608anthonyepassrecords/indexGallery.htm
Anthony's E-Pass Records
artbuc
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
Know what? I believe JB was correct in his OS when he talked about the dysfunctional, secret-keeping and lying A family. I say let ICA walk and save the taxpayers some money. The A family can live happily ever after lying, molesting and abusing.
LongtimeMedic
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
Casey accepting a plea? Doubt it!
It would depend on the bargain.
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
IMO Cindy's breakdown on the stand was phoney or crying for herself ..
I think it was real- I think it was her denial being stripped away.. her first true look at her reality since Caylee was taken from her. But she's now accepted her reality and figured out how to live with it.
Socprof
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
cindy mentioned the check fraud charges today?
Yes she did. And I'm sure that was a big slip on CA's part. I thought immediately that it opened the door for the state. I wonder if they will go there, at risk for double jeopardy? Anyone?
JA has a good point. Defense can't deny they have messed up so many times causing so many sidebars, etc., that it simply makes sense to deal with this stuff first.
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
Ashton thought it would speed things up to address this today.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:53 PM
MaryAnn
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
CM is talking about integrity!!! that is FUNNY
TexasDoll
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
Mason just says the FBI is lying for the SA? WOW!!!!!!!! SO THE FBI IS COVERING UP TOO?!
Sleuths4Me
06-23-2011, 04:54 PM
LDB is going to recall CA on the rebuttal and ask her about MySpace and did she have an account in March 2008, IF she says Yes LDB will go after her since she already said she didn't have MySpace until July when she posted that thing about her daughter missing. That will show the jury right there she is lying to help her daughter out. I think the SA knew she might pull this and knew what the DT was going to say about the computer searches because they knew CA was going to say she did them but what the DT forgot was CA DIDN'T have an account back in March 2008
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
emails re: duct tape (CM saying integrity of case is at risk) HHJP wants to hear it
alwaysonmymind
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
What???? Mason questioning integrity??
Soulmagent
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Since I've heard almost no one else say this about what legal analysts believe is a very strong State case and a very weak/botched defense, I'm hoping the jurors feel more as the majority of observers do.
I do not believe the case is a strong case for the state.
I dont believe the defence is doing well either so that may cancel eachother out.
The opinion is out there it just gets drowned out.
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
It would depend on the bargain.
I don't know, because she would have to admit guilt and I just don't see her doing that. Especially if she isn't guilty, kwim?
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Mason says there are emails between Savage and authorities regarding the duct tape.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:54 PM
grandmathatadopted2
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
I thought some of the sunpass records came out in discovery. I know something did regarding George saying he chased/followed Casey. I live in the area and everyone I know uses sunpass to go to and from work.
Poodleluver
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Poor JA he is so stressed & upset by all this. It just isn't right! He is in Caylee's corner & wants justice served. He has probably never seen such "unusual people" in & out of the court!
TortillaChip
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Does anyone know what time the presser from the Anthonys will be?
I don't know, but I am not watching it.......too sickening.
wenwe4
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
JA wants a profer....
CM says interesting to find out about things before they happen...Erin Martin from FBI testify about what she did...
JA -question of relevance - we have already had one DT try to get into paternity issues....not relevant - simply not have problems in front of jury....jumping up and down and running to sidebar....
CM - memorialized in an email - photographs - create a murder weapon...we will just tell them we didn't take the pictures.....happy to show you the emails...
JA that is not on trial - facts and evidence are on trial...profer to court to make ruling....HHBP I would like to hear it...I can hear it now or @ 8:30 in morning but we will start testimony @ 9.
hear it right now call Agent Nick Savage
Mountain_Kat
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Hmmmmm.
LongtimeMedic
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Omg!!!!!
Socprof
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
What is ICA flipping out about right now?
gibby207
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
PBS has some fine new Poirot mysteries online that are much better than ANYTHING you could see tonight, is my guess. pbs.org.
Enjoy!
:floorlaugh::great::woohoo:
LaLaw2000
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Okay; after today I am sticking with the theories I have had for 2.5 years. I firmly believe the whole family had known little Caylee was killed by Casey since the end of June, 2008.
MOO
Murphismo
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
I love this judge!!!!
strawberry
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Ooh Bias and Credibility of certain witnesses.
deelytful1
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Wow... they're proferring FBI agent NS
ExpectingUnicorns
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Casey doesn't like this. She is shaking her head and repeatedly saying, "No, no, no."
jon_burrows
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Casey getting very animated, poking the attorney.
IMO
Sleuths4Me
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
PS - I really think CA did what she did because in her mind she has nothing else to lose...in her mind
LadyL
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
cindy mentioned the check fraud charges today?
yes, in her testimony - she was answering a question and said she recalled it was before (or after - I can't exactly recall what word she used right now) KC was arrested on her check fraud charges
it was an OMG moment prior to all the other OMG moments
mck16
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
Why is CM such a pompous person?
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
Casey is fidgeting and twitching. Appears to be upset about something that's just been said.
by Jessica Steck/WESH.com at 3:55 PM
Judge says he'd like to hear some of the testimony. FBI agent Nick Savage is called. #CaseyAnthony **note jury is gone for day
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:55 PM
It will depend on what the analysis program is hitting on or looking at. Some programs (such as the net analysis I suspect) are recording links made. So each time you go forward and back on a link it records, page refreshes may record, and any website may include materials or links from other web pages. multiple sub links within a page may trigger etc. Whereas the category "typed" means that it was keyboard input.
There are 2 IT guys on the jury.
They will have no problem understanding this and explaining it to the others if necessary.
Thank goodness.
Too bad there isn't a chemist!
Eidetic
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/30agxao.jpg
Murphismo
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
did anyone catch the LOOK on CM's FACE!
Oh, I had no idea we were stilll going! Is this a proffer? What for?
Soulmagent
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
It would depend on the bargain.
Maybe if it involved the state charging her with something to do with an accident but they wont do that and she wont accept anything else.
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
Mason just says the FBI is lying for the SA? WOW!!!!!!!! SO THE FBI IS COVERING UP TOO?!
Really, that dude's got issues, he needs to retire NOW before he ruins every bit of his credibility!
Etiana
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
JA is ticked off. Is it just me or does it sound like Mason is somewhat disrespectful to the judge?
USARDOG
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
I'm thinking maybe the chloroform is a red herring and Caylee drowned after all, but not accidentally.
Then how did the trunk of the firebird get a very high concentration of chloroform?
SillyJilly
06-23-2011, 04:56 PM
What???? Mason questioning integrity??
Can we say OXYMORON?!!!!!!!!
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/110608anthonyepassrecords/indexGallery.htm
Anthony's E-Pass Records
Are those for June and July 08 only?
cloud9
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
It would depend on the bargain.
No plea. Too late. State offered way back. ICA and DT refused.
SevenSeas
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
Casey accepting a plea? Doubt it!
LDB/JA would NEVER offer one now!
adb263
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
Know what? I believe JB was correct in his OS when he talked about the dysfunctional, secret-keeping and lying A family. I say let ICA walk and save the taxpayers some money. The A family can live happily ever after lying, molesting and abusing.
While I agree with your right to your opinion, it makes me sick to think a toddler was killed by her mother and someone needs to be held accountable. JMO
kantoo
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
What is ICA flipping out about right now?
perhaps was wanting another ambush?
strach304
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
The state will be working overtime tonight. Cindy's bombshell and the seeming inconsistencies between the two reports have just blown a big hole in the premeditation aspect of this.
They need a major clean-up here.
PlainJaneDoe
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/30agxao.jpg
When was this taken? LOL!
strawberry
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
Is this the guy who met with GA and CA?
faefrost
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
[quote=justanother;6744645]Maybe someone should test that theory about the auto refresh? And while being objective, i just opened Firefox and used google to start typing Chlorophyll and Chloroform came up after chlor was typed.
Okay,......but remember....this expert just testified to the spelling of chloroform in the actual search....
Search spelled it incorrectly "ChlorAform"...
Bingo! The "A" is damning! Googles autocomplete would not have misspelled it. The incorrect spelling corroborated that it was hand typed by the user at that computer.
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
Savage was assigned to "crimes against children" unit for FBI. Was based out of Tampa. He has been reassigned in the past 3 years.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:57 PM
Witness is now testifying without the jury so judge can hear what he's going to say to see if jury will hear it tomorrow.
by Jessica Steck/WESH.com at 3:57 PM
Savage now answering questions.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:56 PM
State has issues with witness FBI agent witness Nickolas Savage. He's being questioned by Mason without jury for relevance #CaseyAnthony.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:56 PM
hpvdr
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
Mason just says the FBI is lying for the SA? WOW!!!!!!!! SO THE FBI IS COVERING UP TOO?!
Guess they have to go with everyone lies................if it sticks.
Then how did the trunk of the firebird get a very high concentration of chloroform?
The previous owners - the ones who left the stain in the trunk.
Tulessa
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/30agxao.jpg
Love JA. :)
OneLostGrl
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/30agxao.jpg
♥♥♥♥♥
Soulmagent
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/30agxao.jpg
What is this about?
It is kinda disturbing.
Scamperoo
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
The SA needs to bring back to back Cindy and the computer guy and ask again if Cindy has a myspace and then ask again when the myspace search went on in relation to the how to make chloroform search
As far as I remember Cindy said (scoff scoff) that someone set her a myspace up on July 3rd ??? I think, she wanted to write that Ode to Caylee that now looks pretty suspect.
liltexans
06-23-2011, 04:58 PM
Savage was a violent crime coordinator, handled crimes against children. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:57 PM
eaglemom
06-23-2011, 04:58 PM
CM I guess discussion of duct tape could be 'work product' objection sustained
Socprof
06-23-2011, 04:58 PM
It would depend on the bargain.
It's pretty late in the game for a deal.
strawberry
06-23-2011, 04:58 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/30agxao.jpg
OMG I love this picture!
amandab
06-23-2011, 04:58 PM
Can we say OXYMORON?!!!!!!!!
<interesting person>
Murphismo
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Okay; after today I am sticking with the theories I have had for 2.5 years. I firmly believe the whole family had known little Caylee was killed by Casey since the end of June, 2008.
MOO
elaborate.... I'm open minded, don't agree, but I'll listen....
RR0004
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Glad to hear that Bill S thinks state did a very good job of rehabilitating the witness since I wasn’t following closely.....still shell shocked
True that! Who can focus after Cindy's testimony?
Indianagirl
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Forgive me for asking, but what is Sunpass? TIA
zippitydoda
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Is this the guy who met with GA and CA?
I believe that was FBI Scott Bolen - if you are taking about the interviews they both gave to the FBI back in Aug 2008.
whiteangora
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
I recall the deposition with Savage and he did a lot of talking about the sex abuse allegations. I think he might be the one who inadvertently planted those seeds with Baez. Sorry, but he gave me the impression of being a busy body.
Beyond Belief
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
I don't get this........
SillyJilly
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
When was this taken? LOL!
No clue when it was taken, but that has got to be one of the BEST pictures of those two. I LOVE IT:great:
I think that the 84 visits to the Sci-spot.com site to learn how to make chloroform that's on the report made with the Cacheback software and the 84 visits to Myspace and 1 visit to Sci-spot.com from the Net Analysis sofware needs to be explained. Why don't those reports generated with 2 different software programs match?
LDB never did ask John Bradley who developed and wrote Cacheback when those 84 visits to the Sci-spot.com site that you can learn how to make chloroform occurred during direct examination.
Never4GetCaylee
06-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Wonder how NG is going to spin Cindy's testimony on her entertainment show tonight. :waitasec:
Studio_Medic
06-23-2011, 05:00 PM
Omg!!!!!
I am having chest pain!:banghead:
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