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Never4GetCaylee
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
"KC a model inmate"

George and Cindy must be so proud. :innocent:

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
So she can deal with that stress...but not the stress of her alleged molestation?

liltexans
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Baez: Does solitary confinement often stress inmates? Baker: Yes. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:45 PM

Next witness Marlene Baker was OC corrections in #caseyanthony unit. Saw her daily for 1.5 years. "Pleasant attitude, even waking her up"
by abcashleigh via twitter at 3:44 PM

Next corrections officer is Marlene Baker. She observed Anthony for about a year and a half. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:44 PM

Baker also says #caseyanthony is pleasant.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:44 PM

@Julie So they can determine what they will testify to to see if they jury can hear it.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:44 PM

#caseyanthony "always pleasant, smiling, never given us any problems" says the supervisor of protective custody unit at OC womens jail
by abcashleigh via twitter at 3:44 PM

ljs713
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Sounds to me like she is happy where she is. Good place for her. That is where she will stay.

kantoo
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
OBJECTION!

this witness is neither a psychologist or a chemist

Quiche
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
....aaand, one who refused all her visits?

Tiki
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
stress?????
the purpose of jail is not to be pleasant ...................

tehcloser
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
OY! I fell asleep and wake up hearing what a happy person ICA is????????????? I'm dreaming right?

technicalconfusion
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
THis gal has a look on her face that's like: wtf she's incarcerated what do you want?

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
runs with scissors, does not play well with others,

Enola
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Inmates get stressed... *plays world's tiniest violin*

Sleuths4Me
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
So are we going to see all the DT witnesses now since they can't provide any w/ relevance?

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
I hope HHJP does not allow this in, it's irrelevant.

my2sense
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
posting to get my own link...(sorry...carry on)

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Please. It was probably AF that Casey was looking at the other day in court, she was obviously asked "how are you?" because her lips replied "I'm doing ok."

BigFatMommyDog
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
gosh this is a just foul - can't put the psych experts on the stand to grill the guards. Because that'll go far. Oy

luckyme
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Thats why folks life isnt good enough for her. she will manipulate everyone at the jail! She can adapt.

monique
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
I think he is trying to set up #UglyCoping defense, by saying #CaseyAnthony acted differently than other inmates, thus she grieved abnormal

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
All of them.

Nice....she just pointed out KC is not special!

Bainbridge
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
what. is. the. point. of. this. ????

liltexans
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Says she has cried in jail before
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:46 PM

The cell where #caseyanthony is housed is 8x6, for 23 hours a day.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:45 PM

marie-chantal
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Oh no....inmates are faced with a lot of stress. Boo bloody hoo! Why should we care, JB? Your client should have thought about this before she took everyone along on this crazy charade of hers, and especially before she got rid of her child.

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Stress in prison?...that's what happens when you break the law.. small cell, confined...

sandangel
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
well, BOO HOO.... she is locked up in her cell almost 24 7. I guess she should have thought about that before killing her daughter!!!!

Donjeta
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Okay, fine, so she won't mind if she gets LWOP. It won't affect her happiness at all.

Wholehearted
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
So is this really supposed to be a sneaky psychological defense? She was pleasant while confined, therefore she's disturbed?

Kat
06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Baez is you wanted to show she has a mental health issue you should have used psych evals and entered them into court a loooooong time ago.

MissDiva
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
The way ICA is being described right now sounds perfectly normal for a sociopath. I should know. I dated one for six months. Now, the way she is around those she's CLOSEST to is a whole 'nother story.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
I will sleep so much better tonight knowing that she smiles and is happy while in jail

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Casey cried, not OFTEN

liltexans
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Baker saw #caseyanthony cry when she was upset about something.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:46 PM

nursebeeme
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
smiling in jail...

ummm wouldn't the normal person NOT be smiling?

MissSallyAnnie
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Missssssss Baker? Can you turn this down? My head is going to explode. Giggle.

This must be the Miss Baker on the video tapes with mom and pop.
I see we all have those jail videos memorized!

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
So is she saying her demeanor only changed when it changed? WTF?

Mohabi
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
what the heck, what the heck :( she smiled.......she smiled...... what's there to smile about!!!

Quiche
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Smiled like a psychopath?

summerthyme
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Let's show her demeanor in court behind your back Mr Baez!

turkygurl
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
yeah, she could very well be eligible for parole by now (just a guess).

You are assuming it was an accident. I believe she didn't want her found, since the autopsy performed on a newly deceased body would give a lot more evidence toward a cause of death (whether choloform overdose, suffocation, etc.) I don't think she could have come forward when it happened, or the trial would be over already.

JBounds
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Jeffery Dhamer was also a good inmate until someone killed him.

rose222
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
What size is the trunk of the car? What sort of stress would Caylee have felt in the last moments of her life?????????

greycoupon
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
So Casey lives in her own fantasy world? Is that the argument?

Like some sexual victims due to cope.

JP is not going to let this in. Way too off the wall. Be glad AF is back tomorrow.

*JMO*
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Is there a Miss Congeniality award at stake here?

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Casey smiles. She knows better than show an attitude with these peeps..

Darla
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
OK - So what does this have to do with the price of liquor??????

lowens1975
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
All this testimony tells me she is going to make a happy prisoner.

RR0004
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Can I say...this is ridiculous?

smart blonde
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Look at how absorbed ICA is with the testimony about herself.

miabellamoure
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Her behavior is constantly pleasant because she knows she is guilty...it's gonna be home so, she needs to make the best of it!

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
wow I am thinking ....yup....stands by previous ruling that it is not relevant

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
okay who is thinking this has got to do with casey being competent?

LaMer
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Caylee was happy and pleasant!

Sleuth5
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
She's smiley! She must be innocent! :puke:

Shear22
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
What a waste of time this is! Huge waste!

gitana1
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
They are trying to show that she can hide her emotions even when being tortured.

RammerJammer
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Not relevant...yay!

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
wow this was so compelling!

Chiquita71
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Casey has not cried often. She is ALWAYS pleasant.

did she smile. give us more detail...does she hug? is she a good hugger? Does she bring gum to share with all the inmates?

Jose has no further questions.

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
According to JB's opening statement, Casey went to blockbuster to rent movies the day her daughter 'accidentally drowned'. What's the point how she is in jail?

Liz
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
KC: I'm so special...all the guards LOVE me. I should be set free! I wouldn't hurt a fly!

This should serve ICA well, as she spends the rest of her life in prison!

HotButteredGrits
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
I think he was hoping to show that there is something wrong with her in that she acts happy, cheerful, etc despite knowing her child is dead.

Curious Me
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Sociopaths don't feel the fear, remorse, defeat that the rest of us do. What did JB just prove?

mimmy03
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Is it just me or does it seem to take Baez FOREVER to get to his point. Seems like he likes to dance around instead of just getting straight to the point. It's annoying.

PGWodehouse
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::f loorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Is it just me, or does anyone else have a case of the giggles, snorts & eyerolls going on while listening to this proffer testimony? Lawd help me, I need to step away from this trial & regroup!

Oh, this is a proffer? Thank you for that. Went off to start dinner and missed that the jury was gone. Makes much more sense now. Thanks. :)

decemberbee45
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
"She smiled quite often." Well then...

JP "not relevent"

missm
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

WTF do I care is she's "pleasant" or good at making license plates or if she's the class star of making friendship bracelets for the jail souvenier shop?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

I don't give a flying fig if she has a smile on her face or she flings her own excrement at the prison guards! So she shares her potato peel vodka with the prison guards, are we to forget a baby is dead all of a sudden?

I wonder if Caylee would agree if she thought her "mommy" was so happy and pleasant when she had a roll of duct tape in one hand and a trash bag in the other.

technicalconfusion
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
On the goood ship, lollipop....

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
well what a waste that was...no relevance to this trial

MissDiva
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Proffering JG next!

Mohabi
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
she smiles in her cell and that goes towards the theory of defense. OK THEN!

Kat
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Proffer next witness: Jesse Grund.

miabellamoure
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
lol...JB you lose again!:dance:

liltexans
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Reminder, the jury is not hearing Baker. Is being proffered to see if it will relevant. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:47 PM

Court says not relevant to the case
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:47 PM

Jury not hearing this testimony about #caseyanthony 's pleasant behavior. Its being proffered 2 see if its relevant to case. Judge decides.
by abcashleigh via twitter at 3:46 PM

Baker didnt often see #caseyanthony cry or emotional, and was always pleasant.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:46 PM

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
JB says this also goes to theory of defense......she did it because she wanted to go to jail because she would enjoy jail so much

GiantPickle
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
eek proffer JG!

Pooh
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Oh Good Lord. This is what Baez wants us to know?? She didn't cry!!! She should have - her daughter is DEAD!

Ms.Heather
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
!!!Jesse Grund coming to proffer

wenwe4
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Marlene Baker - Orange Co. Corrections - used to work Lima unit of womens detention center for 7 years...kc always pleasant even waking out of sleep....is she at a current PC status? I am pretty sure she is...cell size 6' X 8' for 23 hours a day - usually causes quite stress....cause any inmate for most part some type of problems being in that cell confined 23 almost 24 hours per day - so yes....her plesant demeanor wouldn't change unless she was upset about some thing - she would cry...not often - fair to say always plesant...smile around you? she smiled quite often - yes...despite conditions she was under - her behavior consistent from day she got there to day you left? yes
no further questions from sA
court stand by previous rule - not relevant....SA objects to relevancy I will sustain the objection

JB - this testimony also goes to theory of defense
HHBP must be relevant
JB - want to profer next witness testimony....Jesse Grund

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Court find this testimony not relevant to the material in this case.

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Of course she's pleasant. She can't wait to jump in that RV, adopt the Irish baby with the accent and preach peace and love to the world!

MEM2010
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
so the jury will never here this testimony from corrections officers?

where was this going anyway?? KC smiles so she's not a murderer?


HERE COMES JESSE!

Stella5
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Irrelevant JB... next straw, spaghetti throw, or load of bull... keep trying!

Hopeful One
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Proffer Jesse Grund!

MissSallyAnnie
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
The theory of defense?? What defense?

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Once again........court stands by previous ruling.

Girlrilla
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Proffering Jesse!

mombomb
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
4:42

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY JB

She is employed at Orange County Corrections. She worked in the dorm where ICA was housed. She observed her from the time she was first brought in to the time she left in 2010. She saw her on a daily basis for a year and a half.

She described her demeanor as pleasant. When they did their visual inspections in the morning, she always had a pleasant attitude, even when they woke her up.

She was under PC status. The cell is 6 x 8. She was in there for 23 hours a day.

Does this often cause inmates quite a bit of stress? Yes.

Especially those facing the death penalty? All of them. It would cause any inmate, for the most part, some types of problems.

The only time her demeanor changed was when she was upset about something. She would cry. That would not be often.

She was always pleasant.

She smiled quite often, despite the conditions she was under. Her behavior was consistent the entire time.

No questions by the State.

COURT STANDS BY PREVIOUS RULING - NOT RELEVANT OR MATERIAL

If the State objects due to relevancy, I would SUSTAIN

JB - Goes to the theory of defense

HHJBP: Must be relevant and material

Witness excused at 4:47

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Did I miss JG?

Etiana
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
"gives us a little more detail because you're not cooperating with me enough - you're not laying it on thick enough."

gem198
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
The jury's gone, right? More competency questioning? True sociopaths have absolutely no anxiety.

christee
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Proffer Jesse now?

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
jesse grund up!!!!!!!

stilettos
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
WTH? OMG I have a headache..shoot me now.

gibby207
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Hey. ICA. Don't you wish that you were Jesse's girl?

Whimsigal
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Jesse Grund is up for proffer!

Softail
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
JG next!

coloradoteacher
06-28-2011, 04:48 PM
The judge is right to not let this in... this would TOTALLY open the door to the video of her remains being released i.e. not so perfect behavior.
Also, doesn't it also show she does not grieve for her daughter. AND JB don't go telling us that she never changes her demeanor since we saw her crying for her brother just a few days ago. Does only the courthouse cause her to cry??

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
another proffer on Jesse, great.........

Tulessa
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Jesse!!!

deelytful1
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Were they supposed to be like her ONLY character witnesses??? :floorlaugh:
Sad!

Waddles
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Proffer next witness: Jesse Grund.

!:woohoo:

anb
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Jesse Grund for proffer!

Donjeta
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
JB impeached this witness in two consecutive questions.

First the witness said Ms anthony was always happy except when she was crying and upset.

Then JB asked if it's fair to say she was always happy.

Well, duh, obviously not if she used to cry and be upset some of the time.

SmoothOperator
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Oh snap!! Jesse Grund called to testify!!

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
LOL! JG is gone.

smart blonde
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
OK - So what does this have to do with the price of liquor??????

I don't know, but this trial is making me think about taking up drinking again!

liltexans
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Judge rules this testimony from 2 witnesses is not relevant. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:48 PM

Sounds like we are going to bring in Grund!
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 3:48 PM

Judge rules that the corrections officers testimony is irrelevant. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:48 PM

"Again your theory of defense must be relevant and material."
by judgeperrysays via twitter at 3:48 PM

Cailin Rua
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
They are trying to show that she can hide her emotions even when being tortured.

Well luckily they don't torture prisoners in the lockup!

coloradoteacher
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
ICA does not look happy about JG coming in...

Leila
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Jess Grund! How is all this going to tie in with him???

ahoyhoy
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
So Baez gets to 'audition' JG to see if he'll say what DT wants him to? I smell dirty pool.
JMO

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
See this is why I vote for DP in her case, she is happy and thriving in jail, sorry not on my tax dollars.

JusticeSeeker1960
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Come on Jessie, I know you'll do right by Caylee......

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Hmmm I guess ICA feels safe in that cell where she is away from anyone who will accuse her of doing bad things to her little girl?

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Now Jesse Grund is going to sing her praises? good grief

greycoupon
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
WHY is Jesse getting proffered? Maybe BS was right about DT asking him about Casey telling him Lee abused her.

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
JudgeJeanine Jeanine Pirro
Crazy! Corrections say casey is "pleasant". So what? How is this relevant. Does it help us decide if she killed her 2 year old #caseyanthony

MissSallyAnnie
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Good. Get all the irrelevant witnesses out of the way so the State can proceed with rebuttal!

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
OMG......they are desperate to get the abuse in somehow now at the 11th hour. I guess they wanted to argue that KC is happy in jail where she is safe from abuse!!

Here's Jesse........

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
JB gets a sidebar to discuss JG's testimony. WHY?!

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
So..........we were correct to be doubtful that you could use your extensive lawyering skills to 'tie it in'.

Next?

Girlrilla
06-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Or maybe not...

Boytwnmom
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
Why an attorney would think for a second that testimony would be relevant and admissable is beyond me....she's nice, happy, sweet and accused of murder...OK

jojomonkey
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
Wonder what body language expert will say is the reason ICA has her arms around the back of her neck?

She's patting herself on the back for being such a good little prisoner.

Ms.Heather
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
OKay.,.. what happened with Jesse?

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
sidebar in a jury-less court.....

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
is jesse being called to the witness stand to proffer his testimony or not????

Whaaaaat a sidebar!!!!

JusticeSeeker1960
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
See this is why I vote for DP in her case, she is happy and thriving in jail, sorry not on my tax dollars.

They also just proved that it doesn't bother her that her baby is dead.......

2door73chevy
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
Wonder what body language expert will say is the reason ICA has her arms around the back of her neck?

That her neck hurts? I do that too..:)

mombomb
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
Oops - Jessy Grund was going to be called, but apparently he was released.

JB thinks the matter can be addressed at sidebar in a matter of minutes.

SIDEBAR #7 4:49-

marie-chantal
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
Yeah, waking her out of her sleep. She doesn't have a care in the world now that Caylee is gone.

La Bella Vita :sick: Casey's right where she deserves to be right now IMO.

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
I picked the wrong day to stop swearing!

MaryAnn
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
I wish Jose would wipe that smile off his face. It never goes away!

coloradoteacher
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
Is JG going to bring in his statement that ICA would change her reality if something happened to Caylee????

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Watching the witness walk away while taking notes
http://i53.tinypic.com/fx4fp3.jpg

Novice Seeker
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
:banghead:Somebody PLEASE get those sidebar transcripts that Baez is manipulating

Soulmagent
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Why are they at side bar with the jury gone?

Darla
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
They are trying to show that she can hide her emotions even when being tortured.

Yet she had no problem showing her emotion when killing her baby.

PassTheMotrin
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Did I miss JG?

No ~ Apparently Medina released him about 5 minutes ago, so the atty's are going to review his deposition in a side bar for the proffer.

Softail
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
JG had been released. Sidebar to go over his depo. I don't get why sidebar, when the jury is not even there. :waitasec:

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
The defense was able to stop Jesse Grund before leaving. He is on his way back up to the 23rd floor. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 3:51 PM
Sidebar. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 3:50 PM

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Wonder what body language expert will say is the reason ICA has her arms around the back of her neck?

Didn't some body language expert recently say that's a self-soothing or self-calming movement?

SuziQ
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
I left this morning and Kronk was up. Now jail people are up testifying to what a good inmate ICA is? Did the trial move into mitigation phase while I was gone?

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 04:51 PM
so even if they brought in a professional to tell us she is a socio[path or worse that would not change her ownership of the crime.

Chilly Willy
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
I think I've got it. Casey is happy in jail because George can't get to her. I think that might be where Baez is going. Seriously.

pipkins
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
The defense was able to stop Jesse Grund before leaving. He is on his way back up to the 23rd floor. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 9:51 PM

HotButteredGrits
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Jesse Grund had been released. Now the Judge is looking at his deposition to decide whether or not it is relevant.

Ninsi
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
I think Baez wanted to proffer Jesse to get a dress rehearsal and JA nixed that--let's just go over the depo shall we?

deelytful1
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Now Jesse Grund is going to sing her praises? good grief

Maybe NOT! We shall see ;)

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
LOL! JG is gone.

What? has jesse left the building? :floorlaugh:

PassTheMotrin
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
The defense was able to stop Jesse Grund before leaving. He is on his way back up to the 23rd floor. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

JBounds
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Is ICA gonna get inmate of the year now or what?

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Baez is going for an insanity defense?

If JB's on trial, that might just work.

TiaM
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
I'm pretty tired of the DT using the "shield" of the sidebar to be sneaky. It's just another way for the DT to stall.

The news organizations ought to be all over this extensive sidebar stuff - I've never seen a case with so many.

They need to pony up and publish this sidebar stuff as soon as it becomes available each day.

If the DT knew with certainty that they would be published - they would for sure cut down on the nonsense.

Tulessa
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
LOL! JG is gone.

Run Jessee run!! :floorlaugh:

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Is this all the start of the bus chasing down GA?

Novice Seeker
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Noticing the DT keeping the sidebar conversations away from ICA...

Ms.Heather
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Jesse on his way back up!

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
She's patting herself on the back for being such a good little prisoner.


Good, she's already institutionalized so she won't have any problem adjusting to the big house for life!!

barrysgirl
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
What is the legal issue? What is the defense up to now??

Emma Peel
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
well, just call me flummoxed.

mysticrose
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Casey sure is a nosey little thing stretching her neck to make sure she misses no action on the sidebar !

Soon no more sidebars ICA just bars !

Mohabi
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Why are they at side bar with the jury gone?

WHY is the jury not in the room? They need to hear what a happy little prisoner ICA is. Pleasant, to boot!

TUSK
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
jb is at the bottom of the barrel. trying to sling anything thats left against the wall.
his inexperience is earth shattering.

gitana1
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
The judge is right to not let this in... this would TOTALLY open the door to the video of her remains being released i.e. not so perfect behavior.
Also, doesn't it also show she does not grieve for her daughter. AND JB don't go telling us that she never changes her demeanor since we saw her crying for her brother just a few days ago. Does only the courthouse cause her to cry??

I thought it could open that door as well but her reaction could be interpreted either way. This is such grasping. They are trying to show that casey doesn't show emotion when enduring the torture of jail (boo hoo) and thus her partying and dancing when her kid was dead is not an indication of her guilt. It's all nonsense.

Sandfordfan
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
I wonder who much the bottles of ICA's water are costing the taxpayers of Florida?

MaryAnn
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
Poor Linda. Look at her face. She looks exhausted!!! JB continuing to smile away

JusticeSeeker1960
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
I left this morning and Kronk was up. Now jail people are up testifying to what a good inmate ICA is? Did the trial move into mitigation phase while I was gone?

lol, Jose style

BetteDavisEyes
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands! :D

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
Sounds to me like she is happy where she is. Good place for her. That is where she will stay.

ICAM. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Hisimage
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
Okay there are lip readers here--- are there any writing readers? I am wishing I knew what ICA could be writing.

mombomb
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
So JG was given one hour to be at court, then released before he was called? Then needed - then it was agreed they could use his deposition? This seems pretty disorganized:banghead:

eaglemom
06-28-2011, 04:53 PM
Why are they at side bar with the jury gone?

They are reviewing Jesse Grund's depo to see if testimony is relevant

BigFatMommyDog
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
Let's see so far today
GA did it
RK hid it
ICA don't get it

coloradoteacher
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
So who else does the DT have? possibly RC/KH, although I think they know that JA will tear her apart on cross, possibly JG, but then is there anyone else? They seem to be going into her demeanor, so has the grief counselor been added? I am SO confuzzled. They should in theory have enough witnesses to go until Fri. according to them.
Does this leave ICA?????

Softail
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
What? has jesse left the building? :floorlaugh:

:lol: Apparently not. Jesse has NOT left the building!

I want ICA to have to see him! :gavel:

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
Didn't some body language expert recently say that's a self-soothing or self-calming movement?

It is actually a one handed motion at the front of the throat near the collar bone - if we did a quick check I'd say at least half of our posters are sitting like that right now..

Mohabi
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
Are they trying to prove how insane she is?

stg
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
Why are they at side bar with the jury gone?

There are still viewers in the gallery, I assume.

SyraKelly
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
sorry peeps..I think I know what the DT do..

TiaM
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
Hmmm I guess ICA feels safe in that cell where she is away from anyone who will accuse her of doing bad things to her little girl?

I can't wait to hear what a model inmate she is in Lowell, especially when she gets beaten half to death every day when the other inmates get their hands on her.

That's why I'm perfectly OK with LWOP. (except that Baez and the TH's will call that a win)

Dr.Fessel
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
well, just call me flummoxed.

Hi flummoxed:crazy:

Kat
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
IMHO DT wants to show that KC isn't normal, doesn't have normal reactions..etc. to support the statment they made in opening (their defense theory) that "there is something wrong" with her.

However, she was found not to be suffering from mental illness or personality disorder (those psych's did not interview KC personally but rather eval'ed her based off statements she made)

Then DT asked for competency eval again this last weekend. She was found competent.

The defense can't show this theory to be factual. They should have had her eval'ed in person. They should have admitted those findings to the court as evidence.

(I do believe she has some kind of mental issues, I think she has a personality disorder and I think that's why Baez didn't submit anything JMHO though)

smart blonde
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
She's patting herself on the back for being such a good little prisoner.

Reassuring to know that if you can't be a good person, you still have a shot at being a good [I]inmate.[I]

rose222
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
Just call Jesse Grund back. Geez. An excuse for every little thing.

less0305
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
WHY is the jury not in the room? They need to hear what a happy little prisoner ICA is. Pleasant, to boot!

noooooo, that proves the point that no matter how stressful her life is, she is always pleasant and on even ground and smiling. THAT proves the defense's contention that she went on for 31 days as normal because that's what her whole life has been about even though she was being abused by her dad repeatedly.

Phoebeb
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
Is JG going to bring in his statement that ICA would change her reality if something happened to Caylee????

Very good! I think you've got it!

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
I wish Jose would wipe that smile off his face. It never goes away!

AKA....The Baez Smirk

Shelby1
06-28-2011, 04:54 PM
So Jesse G. is missing? Someone check the swamp...Kronk was in the area.... *big eyeroll*

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
I think I've got it. Casey is happy in jail because George can't get to her. I think that might be where Baez is going. Seriously.

If she was so fearful of George then why did she live with him? :waitasec:

Camille
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
Noticing the DT keeping the sidebar conversations away from ICA...


It's my understanding that she can read the transcription on the monitor as they take place.

mitzi
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
I think he was hoping to show that there is something wrong with her in that she acts happy, cheerful, etc despite knowing her child is dead.

Boy, this defense team tries just about anything! :( Are the good people of Florida going to have to pay another $6,000 for three MORE psychiatrists to examine her and find the same darn conclusions? Just get this dang trial over with, defense...your 'games' are not impressing the public nor the jury! :banghead:

Hisimage
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
Oh and I am also wondering how good of an inamate she will be once she is living behind bars for good.

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
Glad to hear ICA has adapted very well and is happy. Wish the jurors woud hear it..that would make their job much easier.

Mohabi
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
Okay there are lip readers here--- are there any writing readers? I am wishing I knew what ICA could be writing.

She's writing: "I'm such a happy little nutcase, I'm such a happy little fruitcake, I'm such a happy little baby killer".

JenniferTx
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
I wish I could scream at them to put there hands down from their mouths so I can read their lips!

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
Dear ICA, please take the stand :)

Camille
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
If she was so fearful of George then why did she live with him? :waitasec:


She got paid to,:floorlaugh:

Jorjamay
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
noooooo, that proves the point that no matter how stressful her life is, she is always pleasant and on even ground and smiling. THAT proves the defense's contention that she went on for 31 days as normal because that's what her whole life has been about even though she was being abused by her dad repeatedly.

you got there before me

MissSallyAnnie
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
I picked the wrong day to stop swearing!
:floorlaugh:

allycat1208
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
I would think that JP would give the defense a little more leeway and let witnesses testify so he doesn't have to worry about the defense bringing this issue up for a reason for a mistrial.

Drama Queen
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
OBJECTION!

this witness is neither a psychologist or a chemist
but did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. That works for me!
:rocker:

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands! :D

LOL - Oh Oh - I was singing the Hokey Pokey - you put your left foot in you take your left foot out you put your right foot in and you shake it all about..
No?

nachomama
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
Is the Jury just out of the room or did they leave for the day??

Curious Me
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
I wish Jose would wipe that smile off his face. It never goes away!

Would JB smile if he was in jail stuck in a little cell? Wish we could test that out. His smile irks me constantly.

Ms.Heather
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
These talking heads are where Caylee gets lost.

They focus on everything but the fact that Caylee is now gone. JMO

Chilly Willy
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
So JG was given one hour to be at court, then released before he was called? Then needed - then it was agreed they could use his deposition? This seems pretty disorganized:banghead:
The defense has absolutely no respect for anyone's time, including the jury.

Lanie
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
I thought it could open that door as well but her reaction could be interpreted either way. This is such grasping. They are trying to show that casey doesn't show emotion when enduring the torture of jail (boo hoo) and thus her partying and dancing when her kid was dead is not an indication of her guilt. It's all nonsense.

BBM

Oh, that's what they were doing. I thought these two were the only ones willing to testify as character witnesses.

FaerieB
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
So anxious to see if there's any interaction between JG and ICA. This should be interesting.

miabellamoure
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
Watching the witness walk away while taking notes
http://i53.tinypic.com/fx4fp3.jpg

She can multi-task...:woohoo:

Concerned Papa
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
That was the craziest line of questioning I've ever heard.....

Q-"In fact, she's a happy little inmate, isn't she?"

A-"Yes, happy, happy, happy!"

Nali87
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
I do think prisoners in protective custody should at least get 2 hours a day out of the cell though. Especially those who haven't had their day in court yet. :waitasec:

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
Does Baez really think that good behavior in prison will get her off of a Felony Murder charge?

Cheewawa007
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
See this is why I vote for DP in her case, she is happy and thriving in jail, sorry not on my tax dollars.

I hear ya sista!!!

KPSumms
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
Is this all to get on the record how crazy she really is (i.e., normal person would be upset being in jail, not ICA) so that if ICA decides to take the stand, the defense has it on the records that they were trying to keep this crazy lady off the stand but in the end, it was her choice.

NocturnalLady
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
I think Casey is looking quite nervous at the possible appearance of Jessie Grund.

Ms.Heather
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
Is the Jury just out of the room or did they leave for the day??

Jury is out of the room. Done for the day... Judge let them go early for proffers... and they had a engagement at 7pm. :)

GiantPickle
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
That could potentially make Juror 4 feel OK about sending her away for life "she likes it in there!"

WHY is the jury not in the room? They need to hear what a happy little prisoner ICA is. Pleasant, to boot!

Moe
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
What ever JB is selling looks like HHJP ain't buying.

Phoebeb
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
noooooo, that proves the point that no matter how stressful her life is, she is always pleasant and on even ground and smiling. THAT proves the defense's contention that she went on for 31 days as normal because that's what her whole life has been about even though she was being abused by her dad repeatedly.

And remember yesterday morning she started with the overly happy act in court? Script!

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
Well one good thing, he proves she is happy all the time. She will have no problem in general population :)

sandangel
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
I think I need to calm down. I need to remember that justice will happen for Caylee.

Almost 4pm, think its time to get a glass of wine. :maddening:

nursebeeme
06-28-2011, 04:57 PM
if a tweet is bashing of a defense team member we do NOT post it here. thanks

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/1428mrd.jpg

Curious Me
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
ICA holding pen like a knife makes me nervous. Brave babysitter next to her whispers soothing words.

Elley Mae
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
She got paid to,:floorlaugh:

Now That There Is Funny!

PilotswifePA
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
She's writing: "I'm such a happy little nutcase, I'm such a happy little fruitcake, I'm such a happy little baby killer".

"All work and no play makes Casey a dull girl"

grammieto5
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
Well, as with everything the DT has done today, what was the purpose of that?

JBounds
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
Why didn't they get this psyche eval at the start of the trial? If they believe something is wrong then they should have tried theses shenanigans then. The man that shot those people in AZ and shot the GOV he can't stand trial becaus ethey say he is a schitzo, but I'd say it's too late for this type of defense against ICA now. Just plain weird this DT is.

Athinker2
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
Good, she's already institutionalized so she won't have any problem adjusting to the big house for life!!

watched the Joy show the other night. A past female inmate was discussing prison. Said if KC is included w/reg prison population, they are waiting for her and she would be beat up in the first 24hrs. because she killed her child

adb263
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
Poor LDB looks exhausted!!

FaerieB
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
JudgeJeanine Jeanine Pirro
It just got dark. Its thundering and raining outside. Was going to make an analogy but will let it go #caseyanthony

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
Is the Jury just out of the room or did they leave for the day??

Dismissed for the day.

PassTheMotrin
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
That was the craziest line of questioning I've ever heard.....

Q-"In fact, she's a happy little inmate, isn't she?"

A-"Yes, happy, happy, happy!"

Yep ~ She's a model inmate, always smiling and pleasant.

Let's not forget WHY she's an inmate.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 04:58 PM
She's not looking too smiley and happy right now.

GreenTeam
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
Having guards say ICA is a happy inmate goes AGAINST the theory of defense, if you ask me. How could she be happy if she's in jail for an accident?

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
sorry peeps..I think I know what the DT do..

Do tell!

Chilly Willy
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
I think Casey is looking quite nervous at the possible appearance of Jessie Grund.

No way. They're talking about her now, she loves it. Little Miss Sunshine and Lollipops, child killer.

Tulessa
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
Thank you Mods for being on the ball. :)

MOD MESSAGE - Defense is up ***REQUIRED READ*** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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Novice Seeker
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
It's my understanding that she can read the transcription on the monitor as they take place.

she could follow along from the DT's attorneys, Now they close the computers so that she can't read them

GiantPickle
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
dangit - missed his approach

luckyme
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
I guess she feels special at the jail! All attention on her from the guards. Awe!

PassTheMotrin
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
Here's Jesse!

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
you got there before me

Unless she was upset about something and then she cried...that was the testimony wasn't it?

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
jesse in da house

Softail
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
JA just pointed to the entrance. Maybe they stopped JG in time.

Mohabi
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
Where are transcripts of sidebars available for reviewing?

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
I do think prisoners in protective custody should at least get 2 hours a day out of the cell though. Especially those who haven't had their day in court yet. :waitasec:


The taxpayers of florida would have to hire more correctional officers to make that happen. They cost enough already.

Never4GetCaylee
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
JB needs to read a book about sociopaths. All this stuff he is trying to get
in fits the description of a sociopath to a T.

Bullwinkle
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
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Kat
06-28-2011, 04:59 PM
I think I need to calm down. I need to remember that justice will happen for Caylee.

Almost 4pm, think its time to get a glass of wine. :maddening:

If it's any consolation IMHO it's a foregone conclusion that KC will be convicted. She will be. I had my doubts at the start of the trial on which charge she would get convicted on but now I'm thinking she will get convicted on the full meal deal.

Jesse Up!