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Miss Anarchy
06-28-2011, 01:54 PM
If this is what a defense team can legally do to innocent people the justice system doesn't work well.

AMEN! The DT has dragged so many people through the mud during this case. Its ridiculous.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Deputy chewed RK out for 1/2 hour?! Good lord.

(((((RK))))))

rose222
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Time to retire, CM.

Curious Me
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Melich and Company? CM does not show enough respect for Law Enforcement.

katydid23
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
This is a losing proposition for CM at this point. Kronk looks and sounds very credible so far. Cm is reaching and trying to make him look bad, but he just looks like a meter reader who found a dead child and TRIED to call it in.

Talina
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
There are people believing the stuff Kronk is saying??

I believe him completely.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Kronk said the deputy chewed him out.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 12:54 PM

Shear22
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
I heart Kronk. And I feel so bad for him.

mitzi
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
How on earth has the defense team twisted this so far from the truth? They and KC have single-handedly ruined this poor man's life. Shame on all of them.:banghead:

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Kronk did more than any "command center" or larry king appearance ever did.
Very, very well said.

RR0004
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
how confusing to have CM ask if he went to bed????
I don't think he realized what time the calls were made.

kelian36
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Calling RK is going to bite the defense in the booty. If I were on the jury, I would be angry with them for villifying the man who found Caylee. It's sickening to me.

One more comment, lol
Hopeful One, This testimony will bite the DT in the booty. It is clear as glass that Mr. Kronk isn't nervous, is being honest and was honest in the 911 calls. He wanted LE to see if he had found Caylee's body. Honorable imo.

Softail
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
I really hope, as with all DT witnesses, this backfires!

Quiche
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
LE looking bad here, imo.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Kronk said Deputy Cain walked down looked away, slipped in the mud, and then, "Chewed me out for half an hour."
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 12:55 PM

barbtries
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Show of hands, how many people believe RK?

for sure. clearly there are people on this board who do not, i'm sure they must have some reasons.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
CM's going to blow a gasket!!!!!

Trident
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
CM is being a bully, and making no sense to me. What does he expect, RK to stand up and scream "I put the body there"?

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Mason is just making me sick! Poor Kronk is like a little mouse being tortured by a big hungry cat. Why can't they leave the man alone?

gibby207
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
This person is.

So is this person. I hope there are more people like him in the world but after this trial..... I doubt anyone would do anything.

jharres
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
RK getting frushtrated....CM starting to get to him. Keep your cool buddy, you are doing fine.

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
There are people believing the stuff Kronk is saying??

I certainly don't believe mason's insinuations...why would anyone disbelieve Kronk?

Girlrilla
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Kronk said the deputy chewed him out.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 12:54 PM

My feed went to commercial, why did he get chewed out?

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
He's holding steady...CM is trying to make him angry..

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
:cheer:
We are watching the DT's theory collapse, this is a great day for Caylee, justice will be served!

Pooh
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Melich and Company????

LOL - I caught that too. He's a terrible examiner imo.

Solshine
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
WFTV plays a commercial NOW?! OMG!

Are you watching WFTV on Skyfire? They are the ones who kindly time their commercials to spare us the exciting parts of this trial. :maddening: Paid apps should not have commercials like this, imo.

Ambiance
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
If this is what a defense team can legally do to innocent people the justice system doesn't work well.

really ! GEESH...you would think if you helped in some small part to solve a murder, to find a missing child, you would be treated like a hero. Instead - it teaches people NOT to get involved unless they want to be dragged thru the dirt.

msinformed
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Jurors are fidgeting as Mason tries to make Kronk look like a body snatcher
3 minutes ago

Murphismo
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Can someone please explain to me why in God's creation CM constinues on babbling? He keeps going in circles. I don't get it...

Cause he is not tripping up RK like he needs to, RK is being honest

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
I just do not understand how the DT thinks this is helping.

cityslick
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Deputy chewed RK out for 1/2 hour?! Good lord.

(((((RK))))))

Chewed him out why?

kaRN
06-28-2011, 01:56 PM
I'd love to be psychic and know what is going on in ICAs mind during this testimony. Seems to me RK is her last hope for planting reasonable doubt and the idea is looking pretty unreasonable.

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
Mason can't even get the dates right. This needs to stop - they tried to pin it on him. Didn't work. Next.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
someone else getting a little chewed on, lol. CM doesn't take it gracefully.

magiemay
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
CM is so annoying think I will mute him till cross. This is so sad.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
sidebar

my Bill S time

SailorMoon
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
Again, what is the point CM?? Give up -- please. Put us out of our misery. I don't get his point (if there is one) at all.....

wenwe4
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
I lost audio for few minutes...sorry

continue....
RK w/cm.....court clerk hands paper to HHBP - approach along w/court reporter...

Miss Anarchy
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
CM is just making the DT look worse. RK is holding his own in this questioning. I feel sorry for him, CM makes his line of questioning very hard to answer by jumping all over the place and asking about the first date, then the 3rd, then back to 2nd. I'm sure its confusing the jury as well.

Girlrilla
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
CM is being a bully, and making no sense to me. What does he expect, RK to stand up and scream "I put the body there"?

Would be nice if KC did that and put an end to all this madness. 3 years too late for that though.

Athinker2
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
yep, and coyotes...

live in rural florida, too close to a rattlesnake once and see coyotes running in the fields

Smoking Gun
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
I do.

I do too!

liltexans
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Kronk says he went to scene on August 11, 13th and December 11 in 2008
13 seconds ago

jane the dood
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
Fl has rattlesnakes? I was not aware of that. I mean, water moccasins I figured but not rattlesnakes. Guess I learn something everyday...

We have all manner of venomous creatures in Florida; some of them even practice law.
*sits on hands*

Talina
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
LE looking bad here, imo.

Yes and after their internal investigation, Cain is no longer with the county sheriff office. They did not try to sweep it under the rug. IMO

Justin Tyme
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
CM needs to retire after this trial. IMO

kelian36
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
AMEN! The DT has dragged so many people through the mud during this case. Its ridiculous.

After a verdict is made, can the DT be punished for their actions in court?

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
Hearing all of this for the first time, I am disgusted with the way his calls were handled and the way the policeman acted when he showed up...putting LE in a very bad light overall...JMO

AND I still don't understand why this entire area was not searched even before Aug 11th...as the most obvious place, I know it is large but is the point of searching only parts of it?

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 01:57 PM
CM is going to lose it. He's getting increasingly frustrated.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
Oh good grief...... this is getting ridiculous! CM needs to stop already.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
Bill S says 911 tape makes RK sound very truthful and a good Samaritan

liltexans
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
Sidebar after Judge said he didn't have document Cheney was just refering to
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 12:57 PM

#CaseyAnthony Kronk says when a deputy finally came out to look, he "chewed" Kronk out after deputy slipped in woods.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 12:56 PM

#CaseyAnthony Mason suggesting Cain got as close as six feet from skull/bag on 8-12-08. Cain later dismissed it as trash. Big mistake.
by bobkealing via twitter at 12:56 PM

Yellow Rose
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
Roy Kronk comes off as VERY believable, IMO. CM comes off like he is clearly, purposely trying to confuse this man. And those 911 calls did the DT no favors.

As long as he comes in believable to those jurors, I guess it doesn't matter much to us. IMHO they've basically already made up their minds.

dvdman
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
There is NO DOUBT in mind this guy is telling the truth. He's probably the most truthful of the witnesses the defense has put up on the witness stand yet.

~PrinceSSa~
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
I hope during cross examination, JA gets up there and says "Thank you Mr.Kronk for finding Caylee Marie Anthony!"
No further questions

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
How on earth has the defense team twisted this so far from the truth? They and KC have single-handedly ruined this poor man's life. Shame on all of them.:banghead:


despicable, but I guess being despicable is their defense.

luckyme
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
What will Jesse grund say to help defense?

Ssejors
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
There are people believing the stuff Kronk is saying??

Absolutely believing Roy Kronk.

What could he be hiding?

He's not a body snatcher. LOL

Tiki
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
MN gave RK $5,000 to make up for the reward that RK did not receive because he was a county (I think) employee. The $5,000 came from MN's fee from the Anthony's when he represented them.
That's good enough for me.

.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
I'm begining to feel incredibly hostile to the DT right now. I see absolutely no dishonesty in this man, and for them to create this awful, hide and seek story, smear this man's name in order to fool this jury into thinking...well...I don't even know what their stupid theory is any more...it just makes me LIVID!!!!!!!!!!

LIVID!

gitana1
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
Anyone else see Kronk roll his eyes while listening to his phone calls? Kinda odd...

I'd be embarrassed hearing myself on tape fumbling around as well. I hear nothing, zip, zilch, zero, that is suspicious here.

Nali87
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
WHAT IS THE POINT? Seriously, I don't get it. Just leave Roy out of it and blame it all on George. They are attacking everyone they put on the witness stand. If I were on the jury I'd really be convinced that the DT has nothing.

Hoping4Justice
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Move along CM......... making no point at all.

Tried to mix up RK to say that he was over the top of the skull on 911 tape........

Nothing to see here. This guy is genuine.:banghead:

liltexans
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
"I do not have the document. I need to see it before I can rule."
by judgeperrysays via twitter at 12:58 PM

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Chewed him out why?
Probably for "pestering" them.

Makes me sick.

JBounds
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
We have all manner of venomous creatures in Florida; some of them even practice law.
*sits on hands*
lol I do believe you're right about that last part.

rice09
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
I believe him completely.

So do I! The real question is "There are people who don't believe him??" lol

faefrost
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
There are people believing the stuff Kronk is saying??

What Kronk is saying perfectly matches the tapes that were recorded at 911 on the days in question. He gave the same story on those days to the dispatchers that he is giving on the stand today. CM looks a hell of a lot less credible and believable than RK does.

Love or hate RK. Have preconceived ideas as to his motives and credibility all you want. But he is doing a superb job on the stand today. He looks like an honest believable common civil service worker who found something and called it in in order to do the right thing, and then was disturbed enough by it to follow up. Nothing conspiratorial going on there.

kar
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Does CM seem to have quite the attitude with HHJP, or is it just me?

Jorjamay
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Chewed him out why?

For wasting there time.......................... thats one Deputy with egg on his face.

monique
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
HHJBP sounded frustrated and angry when responding to CM prior to sidebar.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Kronk, groovin' on the architecture.

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06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
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pinkfly
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
CM should know when to hold em and when to fold em by this point in his career

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
CM took case because he thought it would fun. Not so fun now is it?

TortillaChip
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
someone else getting a little chewed on, lol. CM doesn't take it gracefully.

Totally, the roles reversed there for awhile. Gotta give Kronk credit, he is taking no carp from CM. :floorlaugh:

PennyC
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
really ! GEESH...you would think if you helped in some small part to solve a murder, to find a missing child, you would be treated like a hero. Instead - it teaches people NOT to get involved unless they want to be dragged thru the dirt.

I was just sitting here thinking the same thing. After this no one is going to be willing to help search for a missing person again. Hope DT is happy :maddening:

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Roy checking out the elaborate cathedral ceiling of the courtroom. I have heard it is something to behold.

Jetaime
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
#CaseyAnthony Juror 17 just whispered something to 16. He strongly agreed to whatever it was.
by bobkealing via twitter at 10:59 AM

Soulmagent
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
LOL I just saw Roy Kronk doing the exact same thing dr vass was doing when they went to side bar on him. So funny. Rolling his eyes arround while looking up.

Oakley
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Juror 17 just whispered something to 16. He strongly agreed to whatever it was.

smart blonde
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
This is making me feel slightly ill, that this is our Justice system.

Watching the woman who I believe murdered her defenseless two year old child, sit there surrounded by a team of defense lawyers, glare at the innocent man who is being falsely accused of ridiculous lies, having to defend himself for finding the remains of the child she murdered.

Ssejors
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Chewed him out why?

I think the LEO, who was called to go check out this tip by Roy Kronk, Disregarded the info as carp and didnt wanna get his boots wet, he was subsequently fired.

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Okay someone asked if this was DT witness then why are they questioning him like this.

IMHO (and there are those that disagree here so keep that in mind) a witness is not a prosecution or defense witness. They are simply sworn witnesses. They swear to tell the truth. It can be argued that some defense teams hire witnesses to say what they want said---but the if that were an accurate statement in every trial then the same could be said about the prosecution teams.

RK is simply a witness. The defense is asking him questions to try to ellicit responses that would prove their defense. The state will ask him questions to support their case.

JMHO

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Tropical Storm Faye

do you remember the exact date the Tropical Storm happened? Just for my information re: timeline here. Thanks.

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
I'd be embarrassed hearing myself on tape fumbling around as well. I hear nothing, zip, zilch, zero, that is suspicious here.
This coming from a lawyer is good to hear!

butterfly1978
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Okay I have been watching the trial but haven't been on Websleuth in a couple of days but I have to say I had to get on here and say this Cheney Mason is really erking on my last dang nerve. I have never in my life seen an attorney so rude and saying so much but not saying anything he is trying to slip things in there but RK is holding on but Damn-it CM is getting on my nerves.... He really needs to let someone else examine RK I'll even take Biaz over him, he is so ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justin Tyme
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
As my Mother use to say: Don't shoot the messenger. ICA, CM, JB and the lot should be ashamed of themselves. Why is ICA's life more important than the life of Caylee?

KenoshaKid
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
This is hilarious. CM asks him accusingly if he said that it was hot and as soon as he got off work he wanted to take a shower, have a soda and get in the pool. CM says it like he was going home to kick old ladies or something. Kronk answers "yes sir" like what part about that don't you get?

Cat99
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Kronk said the deputy chewed him out.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 12:54 PM

bbm - Absurd..why gfs?

JMO

Bullwinkle
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
bobkealing‎ #CaseyAnthony
"Juror 17 just whispered something to 16. He strongly agreed to whatever it was."
Twitter - seconds ago

pipkins
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
#CaseyAnthony Juror 17 just whispered something to 16. He strongly agreed to whatever it was.
by bobkealing via twitter at 6:59 PM

larryphx
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
The DT is proving NOTHING.... Kronk is not hurting the prosecution what so ever. I find him being honest so far.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
This man looks so sad.

17282

faefrost
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Roy checking out the elaborate cathedral ceiling of the courtroom. I have heard it is something to behold.

Is that what is going on? I was wondering why he seemed to be staring upwards into space?

BigFatMommyDog
06-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Hearing all of this for the first time, I am disgusted with the way his calls were handled and the way the policeman acted when he showed up...putting LE in a very bad light overall...JMO

AND I still don't understand why this entire area was not searched even before Aug 11th...as the most obvious place, I know it is large but is the point of searching only parts of it?

bbm - kinda blows the DT's sheriffs office conspiracy out of the water eh?

cityslick
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
#CaseyAnthony Kronk says when a deputy finally came out to look, he "chewed" Kronk out after deputy slipped in woods.

I normally have a lot of respect for LE, but this is a disgrace. This guy is pointing to a potential crime scene and all you do is b***h him out?

robotdog
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Kronk is telling the truth, give it up CM

SAgal
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
LOL - I caught that too. He's a terrible examiner imo.

In my opinion, Mr. Mason is disrepectful when referring to police officers.
I'm stunned how disrepectful the DT is treating their own witnesses.

kitkit
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Team ROY KRONK

KenoshaKid
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
bbm - Absurd..why gfs?

JMO

Because the cops were getting thousands of leads and the cop thought this one was bogus, too.

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Honestly, watching this trial has been more draining than completing both my BA and MA.

ahoyhoy
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Poor guy...so much for remaining anonymous. :(

I know. ICA is like King Midas, except everything she touches seems to turn to (manure) instead of gold. Poor Caylee. Poor everybody. :twocents:

Even Velveeta, as Mountain Kat so hilariously pointed out yesterday.

Themis
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
There are people believing the stuff Kronk is saying??
Yes. :slapfight: His testimony and his demeanor have the ring of truth. He's walking all over CM.

ohiogirl
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
The DT likes to paint a picture that the swamp where Caylee was found was nothing more than a nicely manicured piece of common ground with a few bottles and cans tossed in there.

I think the jury is smart enough to have paid attention to the loads of pictures of the vines/kudzu and huge amounts of vegetation that would have prevented one from just being able to stroll through there and see the forest floor for acres and acres.

Yes, it was a good thing the DT brought in Hoover's videos, right?

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Mason shows Kronk statement and then asks if he told LE he was 100% certain it was a skull? Kronk says no 99.9% Mason shows him paper again.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:01 PM

#CaseyAnthony Cheney raises his voice and tells Kronk, "You said you were 100% certain it was skull!" Kronk agrees.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:00 PM

Mason: Did you say you were 100% sure? Kronk: No I said I was 99.99% #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:00 PM

Sidebar over. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:00 PM

#CaseyAnthony Juror 17 just whispered something to 16. He strongly agreed to whatever it was.
by bobkealing via twitter at 12:59 PM

During the sidebar, jurors look fidgety. Rocking their chairs, fiddling with notepads, etc. Kronk looking into balcony. #CaseyAnthony
by stevehelling via twitter at 12:59 PM

Oakley
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
PamelaLeeShow Pamela Lee
#caseyanthony Kronk looking up to us here in the balcony and the ceiling of the courtroom.

Murphismo
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
i hope during cross examination, ja gets up there and says "thank you mr.kronk for finding caylee marie anthony!"
no further questions

omg i was thinking the exact same thing!!!!

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
SO when did he get the duct tape, blanket and laundry and trash bags from the anthonys??

mitzi
06-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Gee...Kronk was .01% off...hang 'em high! *sarcasm*

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
What will Jesse grund say to help defense?



He might mention the molestation ICA told him about. And, also he was on some show and had a scenario about how ICA would act if something like Caylee drowned in the pool happened.

stilettos
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Okay I have been watching the trial but haven't been on Websleuth in a couple of days but I have to say I had to get on here and say this Cheney Mason is really erking on my last dang nerve. I have never in my life seen an attorney so rude and saying so much but not saying anything he is trying to slip things in there but RK is holding on but Damn-it CM is getting on my nerves.... He really needs to let someone else examine RK I'll even take Biaz over him, he is so ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am kinda worried that CM is gonna stroke out during a witness exam...the man is clearly not well.

Tipstaff
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Um how much did the A's make from the pictures?

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Oh, let's count all the appearances on TV by members and consultants for the Defense team. Yeesh.

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Of course the person who finds a body is going to get an interview from EVERYBODY AND THEIR MAMA!

ButForFortune
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
How sad this all is! I am watching the Casey Cam and she sits cool as a cucumber while her defense team tears into an innocent man and tries to bring him down. I am dismayed that our justice system has devolved into this farce.

Hopeful One
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
So he DID get a reward of $5,000 from Crimeline?? I thought he didnt??

P.S. Not that it matters in regards to his testimony or involvement.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Who cares if Kronk got paid?!

Knock it off, Mason! Enough is enough!

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Mason: Were you involved in case prior? Kronk: No. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:01 PM

Mason: Did you do anything with the authorities prior to Dec. 2008? Kronk: No. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:01 PM

Mason asks it again and Kronk says yes. Jurors take note. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:01 PM

strawberry
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
It kills me that they are allowed to point fingers at people who got paid for licensing fees while their client did the same thing.

snowdaze
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
And this is exactly why people don't want to get involved!!!

technicalconfusion
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Hearing all of this for the first time, I am disgusted with the way his calls were handled and the way the policeman acted when he showed up...putting LE in a very bad light overall...JMO


I do agree with you on this, but I will say this. Back then, OSCO was getting all kinds of tips that they were following up on. So many, in fact, that JB didn't want (stated he didn't have the money) to pay for them.

If you read those tips, you might have an idea why the cop acted in this manner.

But, I'm not saying he acted correctly.

GetSmart
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
I have been upset from day one about all the ruckus about Kronk calling 3 times I posted in the other link doesn't anyone remember our gov wants people working in public sector to be aware of things
Operation TIPS (Terrorist Information and Prevention System): Operation TIPS will enable millions of America transportation workers, postal workers, and public utility employees to identify and report suspicious activities linked to terrorism and crime.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archiv.../20020130.html (http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020130.html)
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Wise Old Owl
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
wasn't Hurricane Faye right around then?
Tropical Storm Fay hit the area on August 19. Kronk's calls were 8/11 8/12 8/13 - shame LE couldn't have had more people out there to look.

roxy roller
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Watching RK get questioned is like watching someone kicking a kitten. IMO. This dude is innocent! [IMO]

Nali87
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Come on guys, don't be so hard on the police. I bet they were getting a LOT of calls and that it got hard to figure out who had valuable information and leads and plain old fortune-hunters and weirdos.

MEM2010
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
lost his job :(

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Mason don't you DARE criticize him for getting money I am beside myself

Kenziema
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
CM is making me uncomfortable and I'm not on the stand.

GreenTeam
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Kronk was terminated? Why?

luv
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
I love the look on RK's face that seems to be asking CM "are you stupid?"

I realize it is the defenses job to nitpick to find little inconsistancies in witness stories, but EGADS!
http://i51.tinypic.com/2h33lh3.jpg

pipkins
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
This is backfiring BIG TIME on Mason

suzihawk
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
This is just ridiculously silly - and pathetic. I love it! :)

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Because the cops were getting thousands of leads and the cop thought this one was bogus, too.
True, but that's no reason to ball someone out who is only trying to help. It really makes me sick.

Amster
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Florida taxpayers are paying YOU, CM. I hope the jury is as disgusted by this as I am.

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
H was terminated from his job, is that what he said?????

JenniferTx
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Um how much did the A's make from the pictures?

around 200k

ohiogirl
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
CM should know when to hold em and when to fold em by this point in his career

But, this is their only theory. They can't give up on it! They will just keep drilling him until he breaks down and confesses. :innocent:

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
CM lets talk about $ from the As foundations and Kid Finders. $ does not mean he hid a body

we heard him ask to stay anonymous on 911

Trubie
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Cause he is not tripping up RK like he needs to, RK is being honest

Yes, I got that. Not sure why he keeps going... he needs to move on.

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
I still think it is so wrong that people who have their characters/lives destroyed in court cannot file suit against those who do it.

Talina
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
What will Jesse grund say to help defense?

I can't imagine anything that he could say that wouldn't be hearsay or calling for an opinion that he is not qualified to give. IMO

NOW, what I would like him to be asked on cross is "Mr. Grund at any time during the investigation, are you aware of being accused by the Anthony's of being responsible for Caylee's disappearance". I don't care if it is objected to and sustained. Can't unring the bell. IMO

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Kronk says Orange County (his previous employer) paid for his attorney until he was terminated
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:02 PM

Kronk also collected $5K from Crimeline (anonymous tipline in Central Florida). #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:02 PM

Lots of jurors taking notes about #RoyKronk making money from interviews, etc.
by stevehelling via twitter at 1:02 PM

Kronk said he was paid $15,000 for a snake photo. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:02 PM

*JMO*
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
If I were on the jury I would be feeling pretty sympathetic to RK at this point. As someone who looks out every where I go when I hear of a missing child and look around my surroundings knowing that it just takes one tip and one person to discover the clue...I am putting myself in his position. The regular Joe does not know how to deal with being immediately thrust into the media spotlight and I am sure it is so overwhelming. What a nightmare for this man...and all because he found this sweet baby and did the right thing.

I think this line of questioning is counterproductive for the defense.

FaerieB
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Lots of jurors taking notes about #RoyKronk making money from interviews, etc.

GeekyGirl
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
This coming from a lawyer is good to hear!

Just wanted to say that his statement about not wanting to get closer bc there could be more snakes definitely balanced out the story. No more weirdness for me, and hopefully not for the jurors.

momtective
06-28-2011, 02:03 PM
This is making me feel slightly ill, that this is our Justice system.

Watching the woman who I believe murdered her defenseless two year old child, sit there surrounded by a team of defense lawyers, glare at the innocent man who is being falsely accused of ridiculous lies, having to defend himself for finding the remains of the child she murdered.

Makes me mad a youknowwhat! What an injustice, Kronk has been falsely accused, maligned in a court of law, had his integrity questioned and imo he has been slandered! I wish he cold sue the whole lot of 'em!

RammerJammer
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Lady Justice, where are you?

lowens1975
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Casey's nickname ought to be "Mayhem". She has done nothing but cause good people to get bashed on the stand and put under a microscope.

pinkflamingo
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Can Equisearch (sorry, misspellings) go after CA and the Anthony family after this is over, as she claims she knew Caylee was already dead when they were still searching for her? Sorry, a bit off topic, wanted to post earlier this morning but couldn't!

darcedarce
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Poor RK. He is very believable!

Yellow Rose
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
I have to keep reminding myself that this is the ONLY defense they could come up with to have it NOT be ICA that threw her tiny body away like trash. If I don't remind myself, my boss and co-workers will hear me screaming at this DT.

luckyme
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Are they gonna bring his son in? I hope not!

magiemay
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
I'm begining to feel incredibly hostile to the DT right now. I see absolutely no dishonesty in this man, and for them to create this awful, hide and seek story, smear this man's name in order to fool this jury into thinking...well...I don't even know what their stupid theory is any more...it just makes me LIVID!!!!!!!!!!

LIVID!
Mountain Kat we have been feeling this way soooo long. Glad to know the mock juror feels the same

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
It is taking every oz. of strength to not say exactly what I am thinking!

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Why isn't the State objecting? this is BS

QueenD
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
do you remember the exact date the Tropical Storm happened? Just for my information re: timeline here. Thanks.

Around Aug 20-21. It was horrible. I think we had another TS follow that one. Orlando had the worse of the rain.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
H was terminated from his job, is that what he said?????

Poor guy. I hope he DID get paid from selling snake pictures or whatever.

Cubby
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
The Anthony's should be grateful to RK for finding Caylee.

:gavel:



Exactly so they could give Caylee a proper burial, not the burial her mother chose for her.

JMO

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
OT, I have had wesh on today and yesterday and no commericals at all...
I keep HLN on mute and have endless sympathy for those who must follow along that way, the commericals are just unbelieveable and more poorly-timed than can be imagined...yet somehow they make time for their TH's to keep talking.

TiaM
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Please, please please let LDB on cross point out that Roy Kronk did not take or sell any pictures of Caylee's remains - even though he certainly could have.

If they think he is such a big opportunist - imagine how much $$$ that could have brought him.

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Again, yes RK would become famous because of finding poor Caylee's body. Who cares?

Maia
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
DT is just digging a hole here.

And the prosecution is going to fill it in. :woohoo:

Wholehearted
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
I'm very curious as to whether RK or his son is correct about the phone call.

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Mason can't even get the dates right. This needs to stop - they tried to pin it on him. Didn't work. Next.

IMO
Mason is mixing up dates on purpose to try and trip up kronk's testimony

Etiana
06-28-2011, 02:04 PM
This line of questioning makes me sick. So this is the thanks you get for finding Caylee.

technicalconfusion
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Come on guys, don't be so hard on the police. I bet they were getting a LOT of calls and that it got hard to figure out who had valuable information and leads and plain old fortune-hunters and weirdos.

Ya - tips like this:

http://flawebhosting.net/germanshepard.pdf

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Now asking whether he called his son in November to sat he was going to be famous. Kronk: no sir I did not do that.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:04 PM

#Mason asks if he called his son and said he was soon to be famous. #Kronk says, "no sir." #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:04 PM

Mason asks if went on nat'l morning show? #Kronk says he was paid $15,000 for a picture of snake.He says he was paid $5000 from CrimeLine
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:03 PM

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
If there is Karma...it will hit the DT right now and make me feel better!!!!!

I think LDb is just the Karma we need right now.

kaRN
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Can someone please explain to me why in God's creation CM constinues on babbling? He keeps going in circles. I don't get it...
It's maybe his last rodeo and this is fun to him apparently. Weeeeeeeeeee!!:loser:

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Is that what is going on? I was wondering why he seemed to be staring upwards into space?

Yes, they say the ceiling is a very high and intricate piece of art. It was used as a ceremonial courtroom.

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
I would love for CM to be publicly confronted with the statements he made before he came on this case. I honestly believe he does not believe this stuff about RK, but I guess as a lawyer you have to do these things and act the way he is acting for his client. But I think he believes ICA is guilty, as he stated so before coming onto the DT team. IMO, MOO

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Kronk says he never went by remains location again between August 13th and December 11th
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:04 PM

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Come on guys, don't be so hard on the police. I bet they were getting a LOT of calls and that it got hard to figure out who had valuable information and leads and plain old fortune-hunters and weirdos.
Sorry, I disagree here. Kronk was only trying to help. There is no excuse for chewing out a concerned citizen for half an hour! None whatsoever. He swore to protect and serve.

If the LEO can't hack it, then he needs to find another line of work.

bobloblaw
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
I can guarantee this is upsetting some if not all of the jurors!

newsjunkie
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
H was terminated from his job, is that what he said?????

Yeah. I wonder why?

norcat
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Go, Roy!

CHCL3
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Defense Team Strategy: Imagination, Fabrication, & Assassination!

Wholehearted
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
What is with this whole line of questions that RK is answering no to? Is CM just screwing up?

Nali87
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Only the air and sunshine is free, CM. A man's gotta eat. I'm really not against people making money, when it's all legal. Bet CM doesn't do his cases pro-bono or cheap enough so that he only breaks even.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
didn’t we hear once that RK’s son’s ex-roommate was the one saying that.

CM leaves the impression it happened

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
Oh for crying out loud...what reason would LE have to search his vehicle, or go at it with cadaver dogs?! HOW is he even connected to this case, Mason? I see nothing!

OMG...infuriating!!!!!!!!

Hopeful One
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
Why would they inspect RK's vehicle or make him submit DNA???? He WASN'T INVOLVED in Caylee's disappearance!!! He FOUND HER BODY!!! CM is trying to make it look like LE is inept and they clearly are NOT.

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
I hope Mason can sleep well tonight after this inhumane display.

strach304
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
He's really reaching now! :banghead:

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
Wow - this is ridiculous!!!
I just can't believe what the Defense is trying to do to this man who is a hero to Caylee!

darcedarce
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
CM did they deploy a cadaver dog on YOUR car?

katydid23
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
CM just looks stupid berating him about giving his DNA or having cadaver dogs go over his truck--why would they?

PGWodehouse
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
Now asking if cadavar dogs were used on his vehicle. Grr...

RammerJammer
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
My stomach is in knots for RK. Hopefully, "Burdick and Company" can make it right.

monique
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
If someone offered me reward money after I went through all this BS I certainly don't think I'd turn it down...and I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt for taking it either. Why shouldn't he have been rewarded for doing the right thing?

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
This is looking silly-- immediately the mind asks, why would they investigate him? It's absurd. mo

everyoneneedsavoice
06-28-2011, 02:06 PM
Florida taxpayers are paying YOU, CM. I hope the jury is as disgusted by this as I am.


Exactly...their $$ questions / antics disgust me!

IOW, do the juror's know ICA is indigent?

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Kronk says he never went back to Suburban Drive. Says his car was never inspected by LE #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:06 PM

#CaseyAnthony Kronk says he didn't have any knowledge that he was investigated by detectives.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:06 PM

#CaseyAnthony Cheney: Did you ever submit DNA. Kronk: No.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:05 PM

#CaseyAnthony Cheney: did any law enforcement ever inspect your car? Kronk: No.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:05 PM

Bainbridge
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
LE didn't deploy cadaver dogs or anything else because Roy Kronk was NEVER A SUSPECT OF ANYTHING!!! Roy Kronk's involvement is MADE UP BY THE DEFENSE! This is sickening. Truly sickening.

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Now he's naming the names of those included in Melich and Company.

Miss Anarchy
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
For wasting there time.......................... thats one Deputy with egg on his face.

Yep and the Sheriff's department fired him over the whole situation.

Justin Tyme
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
I'm walking away for a sec...CM is the rudest of rude. I can't stand the way that he is badgering this witness.

gibby207
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Is the hawk there?

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Going to talk about the day Caylee was found.

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
I do agree with you on this, but I will say this. Back then, OSCO was getting all kinds of tips that they were following up on. So many, in fact, that JB didn't want (stated he didn't have the money) to pay for them.

If you read those tips, you might have an idea why the cop acted in this manner.

But, I'm not saying he acted correctly.

Yeah this was in the heyday of larry king appearances, fake psychics, nonsense sightings at airports, the kidnappers being "watched" by GA, corrupt PI's etc.

kantoo
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
CM

it's not "THOSE PEOPLE" it is LE

and it's pronounced Melish not Melich

SeaNymph
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Poor, poor CM - he's going to be crushed when it dawns on him they've all lied to him just like they have everyone else.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
this was supposed to be about him hiding the body based on opening statements

CM makes him a prosecution witness before LDB even gets him

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
This direct questioning is downright disgusting. Caylee's hero is being run over the coals. Somebody save Roy Kronk. He found Caylee. Her mother sits there giving him dagger eyes. May justice be served..

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Cheney is trying to point out police left Kronk alone and should have been investigating him as possible suspect
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:06 PM

Kronk says he never went back to the area after August(until December). Never had cadaver dogs sniff his car. No DNA sample.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:06 PM

Tulessa
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Links in siggy.

strach304
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
What is with this whole line of questions that RK is answering no to? Is CM just screwing up?

Desperation!

mitzi
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
It is taking every oz. of strength to not say exactly what I am thinking!

Don't do it sweetie...I know of what I speak...it won't be 'fun'.

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Listening to Bill Sheaffer makes me realize that this defense team is <unusual> They lack basic morals and ethics. Karma will haunt every one of them.

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
Mason don't you DARE criticize him for getting money I am beside myself

I dont remember crimeline paying him but i do remember Nejame gave him a $5000 reward

Ssejors
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
WHY please someone tell me, Would LEO such as JA YM et al, have CONTACTED roy Kronk between August 11th and December 11th??

darnudes
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
around 200k

Distinction - Casey Anthony made 200 grand not the Anthonys.

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
This poor man!
I don't care what he may have done in his past, what bothers me is how he has be vilified by the DT, this could affect this man's chances at getting a job or a place to live, this is dispicable and a travesty of justice, so much for someone doing the right thing because after watching this fiasco who in their right mind would call a tip line?

Never4GetCaylee
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
OMG. What is the point of this????

My mom knows very little about this case, never heard of Roy Kronk before today, she is watching with me and wants to know why they are trying to railroad this poor man.

darcedarce
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
Look how close the guard is to the inmate!

GetSmart
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
CM is treating him EXACTLY like what movie Ann Finell is so highly regarded for because the Jacksonville Police brow beat some kid that was Innocent and finally they brought it out in the open .. Sunday Morning Murder..I think was the name of documentary

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
BethKaras Beth Karas
Jesse Grund is in the hallway outside the courtroom!

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
I wish he would say, "your darn right i did, I thought that baby was laying in that trash dump swamp."

TortillaChip
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
I hope the jury is as sick as I am of CM voice, and nonsensical questions.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
My stomach is in knots for RK. Hopefully, "Burdick and Company" can make it right.

No need to "make it right". His testimony is already "right". Nothing here but a guy who found something in the woods and called LE several times to get them to come check things out.

State could simply say, "No cross" and things would be just fine with this jury. I'd bet ANYTHING on that.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
That "OK" from CM indicates he is really frustrated and needs something...anything to latch onto and create doubt.

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
Simple common sense tells one that if RK had anything to do with hiding Caylee, he most certainly would not be calling the police several times.

Hoping the jury sees this too!

:gavel:

SyraKelly
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
Mason thinks being loud makes him sound better???

I would just like to clarify something..I am deaf and being deaf we speak loud,my daughter use to tell me all the time when she was little...mom your yelling..US deaf people SPEAK loud..I can not explain except to say ..we don't mean to be loud,it just happens!

bobloblaw
06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
I hope he didn't lose his job due to this case.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
so we see some shortfall on the part of LE but nothing criminal on RK part

I am tired of CM

Smoking Gun
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Yeah. I wonder why?

Health reasons as per document @WFTV

QueenD
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
RC is very good at answering CM.

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
DT need to learn when to "let it go"

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Well, CM, Casey put her there and "just let it go".

BetteDavisEyes
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Give it up already, Mason!

SAgal
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
I'm stunned: Mr. Mason refers to Orange County Police personnel and the FBI as "these people? ???? and he expects everyone to know who he's referring to?

darcedarce
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
LOL CM failing miserably IMO. I bet he wants a nice cup of tea and a warm couch about now.

everyoneneedsavoice
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
hmmmm....looks like the defense team has been thwarted by their "star witness"!!!

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive!

IMO

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
A part of me thinks if Baez had been doing his job when he was up questioning, CM wouldn't have to be working RK over so hard to try to make up for ground lost.

This is painful to watch.

pipkins
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Lady Justice, where are you?

She's on her way

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Ty RK, you tell the jury. "It was flooded in August, it wasn't in December. It was more grown up in August than it was in December." Talking about not being able to speculate about remains having been moved.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Belabor the point, please Mr. Mason, we don't get your drift yet. <sarcasm>

laniefi
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Roy Kronk = #WINNING

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
CM: YOU JUST LET IT GO?
RK: Yes sir.

Geez...he's not even sure what he saw, he called LE about it...MAYBE the guy just figured LE could handle it.

Good lord! This is ridiculous.

downport
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
If I'm a juror, I would be extremely angry about what is taking place with this man Mr Kronk.
I hope he books himself on every gosh dang tv show possible and makes some kind of money off this horrible ordeal.
Absolutely shameful.
I can't even believe how angry I am at this moment.

angeleleven
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
CM wants to upset RK, but its not working.

kelian36
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Mr. Kronk is coming off as totally honest and completely believable. Imo, the badgering by the DT is making the DT look ridiculous. The DT is coming off as attacking this witness.

magnolia
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
I hope the DT sleeps well tonight.

ExpectingUnicorns
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
If defense wants to give flesh to their opening statement shouldn't CM be asking RK if he knows any of the Anthonys?

belladonna
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
That "OK" from CM indicates he is really frustrated and needs something...anything to latch onto and create doubt.

fingernails on a chalk board...CM sit down and be quiet!!!

Wholehearted
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Casey's lack of reaction to the description of the handling of her daughter's skull speaks volumes.

KMouse
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
CM just looks stupid berating him about giving his DNA or having cadaver dogs go over his truck--why would they?

this questioning makes no sense. It's all Kronk's fault that the police did not take his DNA, search his vehicle, or call out cadaver dogs. Must be a conspiracy!

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
I hope Mason can sleep well tonight after this inhumane display.
I could never, ever, even for my own son, point the finger at an innocent person and drag them through the mud. I can't imagine doing it for someone like KC. Not in a million years could I do what Mason is doing to Kronk.