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Nali87
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Sorry, I disagree here. Kronk was only trying to help. There is no excuse for chewing out a concerned citizen for half an hour! None whatsoever. He swore to protect and serve.

If the LEO can't hack it, then he needs to find another line of work.

Well that's just one individual, but to blame the whole force for not going in and checking the swamp, is kind of too much imo. Especially because we've heard testimonies that other groups have searched that area (not the same exact spot) before. They couldn't send dozens of people to investigate every single tip that came in.

Bobbarita
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Even though we haven't heard much from them today, IMO it's a great day for the prosecution!

JBounds
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Cheney is trying to point out police left Kronk alone and should have been investigating him as possible suspect
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:06 PM

This is crazy and ludicrous because why would he be a suspect if Caylee drowned in a pool? JB eliminated suspects by saying she drowned in the pool.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Mason asks if in Dec. remains were in same place he saw in Aug. -Kronk says he never went where the bag was so doesn't know. #CaseyAnthony
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:09 PM

chelle70
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Its ok, Roy. You don't have to say sorry to CM...for anything!

Etiana
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Oh good grief. Enough is enough.

Oakley
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Losing feed on Wesh and OS - storms in ORL again?

Ssejors
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
@BethKaras Beth Karas
Jesse Grund is in the hallway outside the courtroom!

anb
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
He just said he put his meter reading stick in Caylee's eye socket and Casey didn't even FLINCH. She disgusts me!

marie-chantal
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
I hope he didn't lose his job due to this case.

Me too. I also don't care about what people from his past have to say about him. IMO, he had NOTHING to do with killing Caylee or hiding or placing her body in those woods. I also don't care why he was in the woods. The bottom line is, he found the remains and that's all-hope the jury feels the same (MOO).

Trubie
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Honestly, if I hear the term "sir" ever again... I will most certainly jam pencils in my ears!

:banghead:

darcedarce
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Making me cry that he apologized for picking up Caylee's skull in such a manner. Of anybody who should apologize it's not him.

Amster
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Caylee is smiling down on Roy. He's one of her angels.

Hopeful One
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
RK: "That was a very horrific thing for me to find." :(

pcrum12
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
he just admitted to moving the skull! and it was not stuck in the mud or ground

waltzingmatilda
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Aaaargh! I gave a tip to LE once but didn't call and bug them about it. I figured if it was credible they would contact me.

OMG RK just testified he poked at Caylee's skull with a stick but didn't pick it up. :(

wm

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Kronk said he touched the skull, and then put it back down. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:11 PM

FYI Kronk was fired after failing to attend a disciplinary hearing at work
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:10 PM

Kronk says he took his meter reader stick and stuck it into eye socket and lifted it up. He says he put it back as softly as he could.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:10 PM

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
I would just like to clarify something..I am deaf and being deaf we speak loud,my daughter use to tell me all the time when she was little...mom your yelling..US deaf people SPEAK loud..I can not explain except to say ..we don't mean to be loud,it just happens!

agree....hubby has same problem

I just think CM thinks it is having a bigger impact on jury if he raises his voice...I donít think it is because of his hearing when he does this.

luckyme
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
I would just like to clarify something..I am deaf and being deaf we speak loud,my daughter use to tell me all the time when she was little...mom your yelling..US deaf people SPEAK loud..I can not explain except to say ..we don't mean to be loud,it just happens!

Yes i think thats why! My husband also has hearing loss and i have to tell him to talk softer. People think hes yelling.

PaulaF513
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Why couldn't he just keep quiet? What a mess.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Thank you, a horrific find.

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Yeah. I wonder why?

I can't remember exactly but something about hurting his back and being told to go back to work before he was ready to. He didn't show up and he was fired. But I would have to check the exact details to be sure.

Enola
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
:maddening: RK is coming across as believable to me and a very ordinary man, too. CM is treating him disgracefully, and constantly repeating days and questions to try and wrong-foot him.

Then we wonder why we hear about people looking the other way because 'they don't want the trouble of getting involved'... well, days like this are why.

momtective
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
It is taking every oz. of strength to not say exactly what I am thinking!

Relax...:giggle:
http://www.serenity-irc.net/java/index.php

bobloblaw
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Where are the tears ICA?!!

tehcloser
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
I know CM is frustrating everyone...........but he is only trying to do the best job he can do with what he's been given. Trials can get ugly.............

rice09
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
ICA doesnt even flinch when hearing a stick was put into her dead baby eye socket! I would be mortified, crying, shaking, etc if I was NOT GUILTY of killing her!!

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Did I just hear the hawk? :eek:

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Ya hear this Casey? He stuck his stick in Caylee's eye socket! And yet you just sit there....

While he apologizes for having done so...

:gavel:

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:11 PM
I think there is steam coming out of my head. And heart.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
After talking about lifting the skull with a stick... Kronk: "That was a very horrific thing for me to find obviously"
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:11 PM

"That was a very horrific thing for me to find," says Kronk
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 1:11 PM

Jada85
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
Forgive me if I shouldn't post this and I'm not trying to be snarky, but is CM's demeanor like this outside of court, like in interviews and what not?

I've never seen him outside off the trial before and just curious.

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
no reaction from ICA to meter rod being stuck in Caylee's eye socket. RK did apologize for that.

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
I think the State is allowing it because they know how ridiculous it sounds and they're letting CM make an arse of himself.

Yes, I posted this exact same thing this a.m., CM's tone and demeanor is going to make an "impression" on this jury when they decide whether or not to believe RK. CM is really badgering RK, IMO

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
I think mr kronk is putting the last nail in the defendant's coffin.
The only celebrity in this story is MR KRONK...

marie-chantal
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
He just said he put his meter reading stick in Caylee's eye socket and Casey didn't even FLINCH. She disgusts me!

Ugh...it made me flinch and I'm just an outsider. It says a lot about Casey, IMO.

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
Roy Kronk gently pivoted Caylee's skull by her eye socket to see if it was indeed a skull. This man has to live with that visual image. He said he apologizes for doing so.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
After discovering the skull, he called his area supervisor.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:11 PM

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
let’s move on

nothing more to see here

this man did not plant a body

MissJames
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
I wish RK knew how many supporters he has . If only we could be there to clap for him as he leaves the courthouse.
I would like to take him to dinner or have him over for a BBQ.

strach304
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
This is awful for this poor man! I think he is more horrified than Caylee's mother for sure!!!

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Kronk said it wasn't stuck in mud. He says it was a "Horrific thing for him to find." #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:11 PM

RR0004
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Why isn't the State objecting? this is BS
Maybe for that exact reason...let the jury hear the B$

Oakley
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Kronk said he lifted skull on December 11 through eye socket.. Voice cracked.. Casey showed NO EMOTION

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
I know CM is frustrating everyone...........but he is only trying to do the best job he can do with what he's been given. Trials can get ugly.............

Best job he can implying this man took a child's remains and hid them for months?! Uh uh, Teh. That's no excuse. This is BS. Why should RK be hoisted up on a pitard in order to save Casey Anthony? :banghead:

21merc7
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Cm trying to trip this man up in a lie just to make a non-existent theory work is :deadhorse:

:maddening:

Dr.Fessel
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Someone forgot to tell Casey to cry when Kronk tells about sticking his stick in the skulls eye. She just sat there nothing on her face.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Kronk said he lifted skull on December 11 through eye socket.. Voice cracked.. Casey showed NO EMOTION
8 seconds ago

Nali87
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Blaming everyone but the one who should've cherished her.

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
enough. Enough. ENOUGH.

susan1122
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
It is taking every oz. of strength to not say exactly what I am thinking!

I have to say I wish CM would shut up. Hope that's not against the rules. :maddening:

Leila
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
CM is being a bully, and making no sense to me. What does he expect, RK to stand up and scream "I put the body there"?

Roy Kronk is coming across as honest and straight forward, answering the questions to the best of his knowledge.

CM is abrasive and coming across as a bully. His questioning sounds more like an inquisition.

If I was a juror, I would be very unhappy with CM!

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Well that's just one individual, but to blame the whole force for not going in and checking the swamp, is kind of too much imo. Especially because we've heard testimonies that other groups have searched that area (not the same exact spot) before. They couldn't send dozens of people to investigate every single tip that came in.

To me, this place should have been a priority for any tips coming in and also the dispatchers on all the calls were pretty unconcerned about the whole thing too...call this number, don't call us, etc....just frustrating. This is in Anthony's backyard, for heaven's sake. And clearly they did not search all of the area previously or they would have found Caylee, JMO.

AVMAURA
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
I would just like to clarify something..I am deaf and being deaf we speak loud,my daughter use to tell me all the time when she was little...mom your yelling..US deaf people SPEAK loud..I can not explain except to say ..we don't mean to be loud,it just happens!

My X wears double aids...He talks loud all the time..His Dr told us it's because he doesn't hear himself at lower levels ...to him he's not loud like he is to us.

TotallyObsessed
06-28-2011, 02:13 PM
You mean Kronk touched the skull? Moved it???? I have never heard THAT before. WELL CRAP.

Tipstaff
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
ICA doesnt even flinch when hearing a stick was put into her dead baby eye socket! I would be mortified, crying, shaking, etc if I was NOT GUILTY of killing her!!

The jury will see her non-reactive behavior.

WillenFan21
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
She doesn't look to thrilled with him.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/62839183.jpg

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
I want to know how it's Kronk's fault that LE didn't take his dna and the such?

Why is Mason badgering Kronk about that?

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
Kronk says on December 11th, as soon as he realized it was a skull in the ground, he called his supervisor
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:12 PM

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
He should be given the complete reward. He is entitled to it so he can heal from that experience.

carmskarma
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
I hope the DT sleeps well tonight.

I don't. :woohoo:

msinformed
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Kronk said he lifted skull on December 11 through eye socket.. Voice cracked.. Casey showed NO EMOTION
1 minute ago

Amster
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
There is no excuse for what the defense enablers of ICA are doing. Destroying other people to save her is wrong.

shana
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
I get so sick & tired of these insinuations about RK and the reward.

What do they think a reward is for?

pipkins
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm a little worried about him saying he moved the skull and that it wasnt stuck in the mud - Lets hope that LDB sorts this out

Plumeria5
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
Seeing what RK is going through is exactly the reason good hearted citizens don't want to get involved. A shame!!!

Added: And Casey sitting there watching witness after witness crucified for her actions is unspeakable!

concentric
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
LOL I just saw Roy Kronk doing the exact same thing dr vass was doing when they went to side bar on him. So funny. Rolling his eyes arround while looking up.

IMO: RK is keeping his head above water, and he is above all of the muck and mud being thrown at him. While DT and ICA are firmly down into it and sunk.

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
Well that's just one individual, but to blame the whole force for not going in and checking the swamp, is kind of too much imo. Especially because we've heard testimonies that other groups have searched that area (not the same exact spot) before. They couldn't send dozens of people to investigate every single tip that came in.
I haven't done that.

And I respect LE, but they can't stand united when one of them is in need, then divide when it suits them.

What that LEO did reflected badly on LE. Period, IMO.

BlOnDe_GuRrL
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
This just makes me so sick... As a PP already said, this is an innocent man up on that stand.. being drug through the mud ib the DT in order to save their disgusting client.
I thought this was supposed to be the "greatest justice system in the world"
Pointing the blame on innocent people?

GreenTeam
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
You mean Kronk touched the skull? Moved it???? I have never heard THAT before. WELL CRAP.

He said he didn't lift it, he just pivoted it up a little with his meter reader stick.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
It means alot to me personally that RK said he felt bad for gently lifting the skull. This poor man. He speaks the truth.

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
RK - I just tried to do the right thing!

anb
06-28-2011, 02:14 PM
Snap...he just said pi*sed! :O

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
Kronk denies asking deputy about reward money. Says he doesn't remember saying he didn't want his ex wife to find out about $$.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:14 PM

Kronk says he used his meter reader stick to pick up the skull thru "right eye socket" look, and put it down NO REACTION FROM caseyanthony
by abcashleigh via twitter at 1:14 PM

RoyKronk says he put meter reader stick in eye socket and "pivoted" it. Never lifted it.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:14 PM

Reality Orlando
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
I believe every word he's saying...there were hundreds of people looking for Caylee...looking for her remains...why wouldn't a meter reader look as well? Especially when he is so close to her home. I'm sure there were a lot of Parks and Recreation personnel who looked around their work area for Caylee's remains as well.
I believe Kronk!

Everyone I know was looking for Caylee. I spent time looking at Lake Underhill Park during down times at my store (a place KC used to take Caylee often). There was posters everywhere. Everyone wanted that little girl to come home.

Themis
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
:maddening: RK is coming across as believable to me and a very ordinary man, too. CM is treating him disgracefully, and constantly repeating days and questions to try and wrong-foot him.

Then we wonder why we hear about people looking the other way because 'they don't want the trouble of getting involved'... well, days like this are why.
When a witness is on the stand and answers questions in a manner that appears to try to appease the attorney or negotiate the facts, that witness is not testifying from his memory -- the testimony is unreliable. When the witness is very clear and keeps taking the attorney back to the same facts, that witness is testifying from memorya nd the testimony is reliable. RK is testifying from memory.

AlwaysShocked
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
Is this the first time Cronk has admitted to using his meter reader tool to actually lift the skull?

I can remember him saying that it "rolled out of the bag" at first and then he later backed off that statement.

Did he state this in his deposition?

strawberry
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
HAHA the guaards hands behind ICA make me smile.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
skull was always on surface....it was hip bone that was under 4"

RR0004
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
Roy Kronk gently pivoted Caylee's skull by her eye socket to see if it was indeed a skull. This man has to live with that visual image. He said he apologizes for doing so.
...and Casey didn't blink.

magnolia
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
I could never, ever, even for my own son, point the finger at an innocent person and drag them through the mud. I can't imagine doing it for someone like KC. Not in a million years could I do what Mason is doing to Kronk.


Me either. Sitting on my hands now.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
She doesn't look to thrilled with him.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/62839183.jpg

Whoa Nellie, wth was that about!

tehcloser
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
Best job he can implying this man took a child's remains and hid them for months?! Uh uh, Teh. That's no excuse. This is BS. Why should RK be hoisted up on a pitard in order to save Casey Anthony? :banghead:

Because that is their job. You don't have to like it. But that's the way it is.

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
She doesn't look to thrilled with him.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/62839183.jpg

WoW, what's going on here?
Poor LA

carmskarma
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
His anger is justified and believable. CM not helping DT.

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
I would call my supervisor if the LE wouldn't do anything the first ? times.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
No problem with RK being pissed off about incident with officer. I would have been FURIOUS!

susan1122
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
I know CM is frustrating everyone...........but he is only trying to do the best job he can do with what he's been given. Trials can get ugly.............

Need to remember that. It helps.

NocturnalLady
06-28-2011, 02:15 PM
I just got back after lunch. Is this still direct examination?

SyraKelly
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
My X wears double aids...He talks loud all the time..His Dr told us it's because he doesn't hear himself at lower levels ...to him he's not loud like he is to us.

I wear doubles to!

gxm
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
This testimony is only making me feel really really really sorry for RK. Poor guy. All he did was try to do the right thing.

TortillaChip
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
Good one, one man doesn't make a whole dept. hahahahahah !!!!!!!!!

kelian36
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
She doesn't look to thrilled with him.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/62839183.jpg

wow thanks for sharing that shot.

QueenD
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
How many times is CM going to ask the same question 25 different ways?

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Kronk said he lifted skull on December 11 through eye socket.. Voice cracked.. Casey showed NO EMOTION

Since some have posted that those connected to the defense read here (I myself am not sure) I'll be obtuse.

But this ^^^^ if used correctly could be used by defense to show reasonable doubt about some of the previous expert testimony. All I'm going to say. Bet my bottom dollar the defense lead counsel doesn't catch it either. JMHO

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
:( "I just simply tried to do the right thing." :clap: :yourock: :gthanks:

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
Kronk's attorney told WESH disciplinary hearing came after he stopped going to work on Dr.'s advice due to workplace injury
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:15 PM

Kronk said he was trying to do the right thing and be a good citizen and so he was mad about deputy who came out in Aug (Cain) #CaseyAnthony
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:15 PM

"@BiancaMPrieto: After discovering the skull, he called his area supervisor. #caseyanthony"
by abcashleigh via twitter at 1:15 PM

Kronk said he made have said that but he was joking. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:14 PM

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
hey if he didn’t want his ex-wife to know about money it should be moved to civil court....not really our concern right now

we are here looking for a baby killer

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
I'd love RK to say...."What makes me mad is the way that you have spent the last 2 years trying to make me out to be a monster!"

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
RoyKronk I was "pissed off" about getting chewed out by Cain. Said he joked about getting reward.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:16 PM

Kronk: Cannot remember if he joked about playing the lotto.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:16 PM

Oakley
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
I have to wonder if the jurors feel as sick at heart as I do listening to this over and over and over... This Good Samaritan is not on trial, he's a hero FPS! :sick:

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV
Kronk said he lifted skull on December 11 through eye socket.. Voice cracked.. Casey showed NO EMOTION

3 minutes ago

MustlyLurking
06-28-2011, 02:16 PM
Did I miss something on RK? Is he a chemist?

grammieto5
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Oh just say yes about the ex and the money!!! Who cares!!!

flourish
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
This is infuriating! Kronk is handling it well, though...better than I would be, methinks! I'd imagine he'd be so anxious and emotionally upset and everything would just seem surreal...

and, yeah, I find him believable. A heck of a lot more so than the DT!!!!!

NocturnalLady
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
wow thanks for sharing that shot.

I've seen that look on Casey's face many many times.

technicalconfusion
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Jeez get off the ex already!

x_files
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Probably for "pestering" them.

Makes me sick.

I've called the police to save a friend from domestic violence. When the police arrived she lied said it was a verbal fight refused to let the police in her apt and refused to press charges. She later was embarrassed and got mad at me. I was yelled at by the police officer. She had been hit on the head with a bike helmet and was bleeding. He was threatening her in front of me when I was called and arrived to help her.
So much for trying to help. So, it does happen.

darcedarce
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
You mean Kronk touched the skull? Moved it???? I have never heard THAT before. WELL CRAP.

It already floated out of the bag.

All I have to say is so what?

bobloblaw
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
It means alot to me personally that RK said he felt bad for gently lifting the skull. This poor man. He speaks the truth.

Another person into therapy thanks to ICA!!!:banghead:

susan1122
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
WoW, what's going on here?
Poor LA

Wow...when was that pic of CA and LA taken?

newsjunkie
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
You mean Kronk touched the skull? Moved it???? I have never heard THAT before. WELL CRAP.

NO! He used his stick to gently pivot it up to see if it was a skull, then gently laid it back down.

kitkit
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Watching this makes me wonder if I will ever go out and search again. I was out there searching for that baby and now I'm sitting here thinking if I would have found her that would be me up there. I'm not liking how Mason is treating RK....

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
so is the DT going to "infer" that RK took the body and then brought it back (seeing there was Tropical Storm Faye in the meantime), or is he actually going to ask him this? this is the part they would need to clear up for me if I was on the jury, IMO.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Because that is their job. You don't have to like it. But that's the way it is.

I thought their job was to create reasonable doubt, not smear innocent people.

JMO

reeseeva
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Make it Stop!!!!!

jenniek
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
I just got back after lunch. Is this still direct examination?

yes it is.

Yellow Rose
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Wow, I am so IMPRESSED by RK's ability to just spit it out there like he is. He is not cowed in the least and just rattling off the answers so fast that the DT's heads are spinning faster than that girl's head in the EXORSIST.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
roykronk says he "just tried to do the right thing" and "be a good citizen" and was angry he was chewed out.
by abcashleigh via twitter at 1:16 PM

Kronk: Mentioned problems with ex wife.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:16 PM

Kronk says he was joking with his supervisor about playing lottery and not letting ex wife know about reward money.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:16 PM

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
I honestly can't imagine walking in an area like that (or any area, for that matter) and finding what I believe MIGHT be a human skull. I would probably have nightmares about it.

jamiect
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
grrrr...http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx69/jamie4086/3_8_13.gif

QueenD
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
I need a special break, but I am afraid if I leave LDB will get up to cross and mop this much needed floor.

butterfly1978
06-28-2011, 02:17 PM
uggggggggggggggggggggg! Really i mean come-on really

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
She doesn't look to thrilled with him.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/62839183.jpg

And my deepest heartfelt prayer for Lee is that picture indicates a beginning of an end of the rule of his mom in his life. Prayers he moves emotionally distant enough to heal. Sorry for the off topic.

GreenTeam
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
DTitanic sinking.

angeleleven
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
I hate how CM puts words in his mouth.

bobloblaw
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
I have to wonder if the jurors feel as sick at heart as I do listening to this over and over and over... This Good Samaritan is not on trial, he's a hero FPS! :sick:

I'm sure they are completely disgusted by this.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
Roy Kronk doesn't need to worry. He will be known as the one witness that the DT called that spoke the truth, made sense.

Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
As if casey hasn't been smiling and laughing through the whole trial

strawberry
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
Once again sir you've completely lost me. :lol: Line forms to the right.

summerthyme
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
There was NO body, just remains. arrrrggghhh

Moe
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
We have a sequestured jury CM, knock it off.

belladonna
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
I have to wonder if the jurors feel as sick at heart as I do listening to this over and over and over... This Good Samaritan is not on trial, he's a hero FPS! :sick:

Please Retire CM....This is just awful!!!!

strach304
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
Give it up CM you're not making this man look bad because of a reward, ex-wife, etc.

BetteDavisEyes
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
Mason is asking the same basic questions in a different way to try and trip Kronk. RK is on to the game and playing it much better than CM!

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
At this point, I guess CM should just take a bat and beat the tar out of this witness, eh?

Grrrrrrrr.

ExpectingUnicorns
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
CM should be careful that he doesn't alienate the jury. Mr Kronk is coming across as quite a sympathetic figure. He was ignored, chewed out and now the jury can see that the defense is viscously attacking his every move and motive. I think the defense is in dangerous territory. moo.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Talked to coworkers about lottery.. Either won it or should play the lottery
59 seconds ago

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Kronk said he was angry that he was chewed out in August because deputy slipped in mud during cursory search.. Deputy Richard Cain was fired
1 minute ago

Kronk to Cheney: "Once again sir, you've completely lost me. Are we talking about August or December?"
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:18 PM

#CaseyAnthony Kronk says he joked with co-workers about reward but not about finding the body
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:17 PM

Kronk: "No. I went in the woods to relieve myself." #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:17 PM

Momma Hen
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
I hope the jury is as outraged as I am by this line of questioning. Cheney Mason should be ashamed to do this to Mr. Kronk. Dirty pool

Silkprint
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
I don't think Mr. Kronk could be testifying any better than he is . Normal , average guy . Involved in something horrible .

Thank you for finding Caylee . I hope someone says that to you every single day for the rest of your life Mr.Kronk .

FaerieB
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Jury is fidgeting.. Kronk says they were joking about the money.. Not joking about finding remains

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Patience this will end, CM is not getting anywhere with Mr Kronk...

Aedrys
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Did you HEAR THAT Anthony's? Someone APOLOGIZED. Something YOU'LL never learn to do!!!!

I am so upset and emotional right now. CM NEEDS TO STOP!

tehcloser
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
I thought their job was to create reasonable doubt, not smear innocent people.

JMO

I'm not going to argue the point......trials get UGLY. That is what we are seeing now.

flourish
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Everyone I know was looking for Caylee. I spent time looking at Lake Underhill Park during down times at my store (a place KC used to take Caylee often). There was posters everywhere. Everyone wanted that little girl to come home.

Almost everyone
:devil:

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
grrrr...http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx69/jamie4086/3_8_13.gif

Did you check to make sure if an appropriate person was underneath that window first?

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Oh my heck, at least he wasn't out dancing, eh?

Oakley
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
It means alot to me personally that RK said he felt bad for gently lifting the skull. This poor man. He speaks the truth.

He treated Caylee's remains with more respect than Dr Spitz did :maddening:

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Ashton lets out a yawn. Burdick looks at him.

by bobkealing via twitter at 1:18 PM

Cubby
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Go Kronk Go!
Go Kronk Go!

Hey ICA what do you say?
Soon you're going to prison to STAY!

(to the tune of Go Cubs Go by Steve Goodman!)

Kronk is doing an absolutely fantastic job!

jojomonkey
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
Whoa Nellie, wth was that about!

That's sad - Casey can do no wrong in her eyes but let Lee try to tell "some" truth on the stand...I hope she doesn't hold it against him forever.

I can see the dynamic in the family so much clearer now. Lee took a back seat to Casey once she came along. Casey just couldn't handle being in the same position once Caylee came along.

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
They need a new law. A parent that LIES about a child's whereabouts should be put in prison for 30+ years.

MustlyLurking
06-28-2011, 02:19 PM
If I'm a juror, I would be extremely angry about what is taking place with this man Mr Kronk.
I hope he books himself on every gosh dang tv show possible and makes some kind of money off this horrible ordeal.
Absolutely shameful.
I can't even believe how angry I am at this moment.

Only lawyers should make money?

strach304
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
As if casey hasn't been smiling and laughing through the whole trial

Really, he should turn around and have a glance at his client. No reaction as usual :maddening:

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Why doesn't he ask how RK got the body from GA?, that's the theory right....*eyeroll*

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Jury is fidgeting.. Kronk says they were joking about the money.. Not joking about finding remains
51 seconds ago

doubt
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
wow.

this whole line of questioning is a joke to anybody who doesn't happen to be a saint or an angel.

i wouldn't want my ex to find out about any reward money i might be entitled to either!

and ummmmmm.......i can't count the number of times or number of people who have said that the area where caylee was found would be a good place to hid a body.

cm.....epic fail. next.

darcedarce
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Once again sir you've completely lost me. :lol: Line forms to the right.

:floorlaugh:

PlainJaneDoe
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
Show of hands, how many people believe RK?

I do. All I knew about him prior to today was that he was the meter man who had found Caylee's remains.

cityslick
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
I thought their job was to create reasonable doubt, not smear innocent people.

JMO

Maybe in their mind they don't think he is 'innocent'.

dog.gone.cute
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
:waitasec: I think WHOMEVER -- ANYBODY -- even if it was the "Pope" -- had found Caylee's body ... the DT and the A's would have thrown them under the bus !

This is just "maddening" ... absolutely "maddening" ! :maddening:

I sure hope the SA gets up there and puts the screws to the DT !!!

Leila
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
She doesn't look to thrilled with him.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/62839183.jpg

There appears to be some real tension between them at this point. They gave conflicting testimony, and LA contradicted CA's statement that she didn't send DC to search Suburban Dr.

luckyme
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
The defense is over. they have nothing!!! See ya casey! :seeya: cant wait until verdict day!

Plumeria5
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
This just makes me so sick... As a PP already said, this is an innocent man up on that stand.. being drug through the mud ib the DT in order to save their disgusting client.
I thought this was supposed to be the "greatest justice system in the world"
Pointing the blame on innocent people?

ITA. Defendants are innocent until proven guilty. It seems witnesses are guilty until proven innocent.

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
RK - As I've said, in August it was under water!

:gavel:

curiositycat
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
CM needs to quit. It's not working. All I can think is "This is what you get for trying to help." The same thing RK said. I bet dollars to donuts the jury is thinking the same. JMHO

ROKA2011
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Kronk said he touched the skull, and then put it back down. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:11 PM

FYI Kronk was fired after failing to attend a disciplinary hearing at work
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:10 PM

Kronk says he took his meter reader stick and stuck it into eye socket and lifted it up. He says he put it back as softly as he could.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:10 PM



I'm wondering if he did this in December? If he did, he would have moved the growth through the skull no? It would have distubed it. I'm confused.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
RK is truly holding his own and CM getting frushtrated and hopping around like a JB

everyoneneedsavoice
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
From twitter:

MarkNeJame Mark NeJame

#RoyKronk isn't hesitating or halting. Hasn't been tripped up or inconsistent. #CheneyMason hasn't scored.

MarkNeJame Mark NeJame
New in American vernacular: I've been KRONKED. Or otherwise "No good deed goes unpunished." He's doing great.

I <3 Mark NeJame!!!

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Because that is their job. You don't have to like it. But that's the way it is.

To be honest, I've seen a *lot* worse questioning of innocent people. Yes CM is just doing his job. At least someone on the DT is trying to do their job. Not saying I agree with this but it is how it works. This isn't a football game where there are teams that can be rooted for and other opposing team boo'ed. This is a trial. This is what happens. JMHO

Marple
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
RealityOrlando, we did the same thing. She was on our minds constantly!

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Kronk admits he told coworker that location "would be a good place to dump a body"
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:19 PM

ontariolynn13
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Who has a link for Casey having her little fit in court on Friday. Please post it here for me, appreciated.

FaerieB
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
InSession In Session
Pictures of the skull at the crime scene are being projected on the video monitors. #CaseyAnthony

PilotswifePA
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
OMG...CM, Lather, rinse, repeat....although I feel so unclean from the DT's tactics.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Asked and answered! C'mon, LDB...object!

TiaM
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Geez Mason, first August, then December, then back to August, jump ahead to January, back to August, leap to December, no wait August.

The jury is not stupid.

You are not sounding clever, you are sounding confused. Stop before the jury makes an assumption about you that you don't want them to.

QueenD
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
LOL RC, in August it was under water.

Confirms all the under water statements. I love it.

everyoneneedsavoice
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
From twitter:

MarkNeJame Mark NeJame

#RoyKronk isn't hesitating or halting. Hasn't been tripped up or inconsistent. #CheneyMason hasn't scored.

MarkNeJame Mark NeJame
New in American vernacular: I've been KRONKED. Or otherwise "No good deed goes unpunished." He's doing great.



I <3 Mark NeJame!!!

strach304
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Only lawyers should make money?

The A's and Casey licensing fees for pics of Caylee. :loser:

*JMO*
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Seeing what RK is going through is exactly the reason good hearted citizens don't want to get involved. A shame!!!

Added: And Casey sitting there watching witness after witness crucified for her actions is unspeakable!

I hope he will be alright after this. I can see how having to go through this could effect a person for life. It makes me wonder how every innocent conversation I might have with another person could be dragged into a court of law to make me look like an awful person. I wonder if RK now wishes he had just looked the other way when he saw that precious little skull.

BigFatMommyDog
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Go Kronk Go!
Go Kronk Go!

Hey ICA what do you say?
Soon you're going to prison to STAY!

(to the tune of Go Cubs Go by Steve Goodman!)

Kronk is doing an absolutely fantastic job!

keep singing cubby!

mistermissy
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Kronk says phone call with son about being on tv didn't happen in November. Kronk called his son on 12/11 and said turn on the tv.

jamiect
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
#CaseyAnthony Kronk says his son was mistaken about phone call where Kronk allegedly told son he was going to be famous.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 2:20 PM

magnolia
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
I just got back after lunch. Is this still direct examination?

~Yes~

JusticeSeeker1960
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Hearing RK's testimony reminds me of the comment MN said in regards to him, "He's as credible as they come, when he testifies, everyone will be able to see what I'm talking about." In hearing him, he's telling the truth & not giving the DT much to work with.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
wow RK son has not seen him since he was 8 years old.....must have been a messy situation

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
CM needs to quit. It's not working. All I can think is "This is what you get for trying to help." The same thing RK said. I bet dollars to donuts the jury is thinking the same. JMHO

No good deed goes unpunished.

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Gosh I'm crying for Caylee, for this man, for everyone affected by this case.

Wholehearted
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
You know, as much as I'm frustrated and disgusted listening to this, I keep thinking, this is all they have. This is the DT's big smoking gun. They're within a day, maybe a day and a half of resting. And they have put on so little. To me, they haven't come close to poking a hole in the SA's presentation. I don't know why, but I really did expect the DT to put on a better presentation.

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Good grief, CM is trying so hard to twist and turn and make a lie here somewhere.

SyraKelly
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Don't you wish you were a juror and you could stand up and say...Lord have mercy..we get what you are trying to do and it did not work..move on!!!!

larryphx
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Please don't stone me to death but I'm a Kronk fan...

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Let's call him IORN MAN Kronk!!!!


Spelling of IRON intentionally, in honor of JB.

greycoupon
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
I know CM is frustrating everyone...........but he is only trying to do the best job he can do with what he's been given. Trials can get ugly.............

Yeah, I have no doubt this defense was NOT his idea. He's being like this to try and trip him up so can catch in a lie or saying something incriminating. It's NOT working so he needs a new strategy but the DT isn't so much with the improvising.

I can't figure out if it would be better for CM or JB to question Jesse.

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Kind of OT but maybe someone can tell me...why would the defense not have had GA's phone records to see and show how many times he called RC or whatever her name is, if they wanted to prove he called her all the time? Do we know about his phone records re: her? thanks.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Kronk says his son was mistaken about phone call where Kronk allegedly told son he was going to be famous.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:20 PM

Kronk: Son mistaken about phone call. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:20 PM

4 jurors are taking notes abt #RoyKronk testimony in #caseyanthony right now
by abcashleigh via twitter at 1:20 PM

FaerieB
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
kc is just sitting there stoned face & staring at the carpet behind the atty podium like she does frequently

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
Mason is making fool out of himself and he's making the jury
hate him..... and his wicked, evil client.

LglNrs
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
Tweet from Beth Karas, regarding fact that Jesse Grund is outside ready to testify:

BethKaras
After Caylee was reported missing, Jesse told the police that Lee told him about a fight between Cindy and Casey... http://fb.me/KRgyAnHx

Sure makes me wonder if the fight will become part of Jesse's testimony!

amayla
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
It's not like CM has much to work with. I think he's doing the best he can to try to raise doubt.

NoeticSoul
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
A HUGE hand for RK he is doing BEAUTIFULLY!!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Amster
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
CM is making a fool of himself. Is it worth it, CM?? Really??

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
RK getting ticked.

GO ROY!!!

bunchy
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
CM should be careful that he doesn't alienate the jury. Mr Kronk is coming across as quite a sympathetic figure. He was ignored, chewed out and now the jury can see that the defense is viscously attacking his every move and motive. I think the defense is in dangerous territory. moo.

Too late.

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
Oh my heck, at least he wasn't out dancing, eh?

Yeah, he didn't enter a hot body contest! :sick:

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
There appears to be some real tension between them at this point. They gave conflicting testimony, and LA contradicted CA's statement that she didn't send DC to search Suburban Dr.

IMO LA should run.... not walk, away from them...

sorrell skye
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
skull was always on surface....it was hip bone that was under 4"

IIRC, according to CSI testimony, the skull was embedded in debris up to the eye sockets.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
Kronk says he called son- told him he found something and to watch tv to see him. Says son hasn't seen him since he was 8.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:22 PM

Kronk admits he did tell son he could see him (Kronk) on t.v. Kronk says it would be first time son saw him since he was 8
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:21 PM

gibby207
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
This hurts my heart.

tehcloser
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
The upside is.......the DT has thrown everything including the kitchen sink at RK and he stood firm. By them dragging him through the mud....it destroyed their defense. It's a big win here.

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
Is it just me or is CM asking the same questions over and over? We could be here all week.

JusticeSeeker1960
06-28-2011, 02:22 PM
I hope he will be alright after this. I can see how having to go through this could effect a person for life. It makes me wonder how every innocent conversation I might have with another person could be dragged into a court of law to make me look like an awful person. I wonder if RK now wishes he had just looked the other way when he saw that precious little skull.

True, I'm sure a lot of people realize this now & will pay more attention to what they do say.

darnudes
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Deputy Melich? - That's Detective Melich to you Mason!

JBounds
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
CM is trying to read Kronk's meter and it ain't working.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
I think the jurors are fidgeting because this is extremely uncomfortable-- accusing an innocent man who did a good thing!

wenwe4
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
CM w/Kronk - after 8/13 did you go back with officers to that spot until Dec? no sir....did you go on Good morning America....$15K for picture of snake...received $5K....and Oc paid for my Atty and then i was terminated...mr evans sitting here (object- sustain) have you had contact w/Mr Dean and other officers -yes sir believe so....have son named Brandon Sparks...do you remember calling him around Thanksgiving...no that phone call never happend...did you call him anytime in Novmber 2008 and tell him you were going to be famous? No that never happened.
From Aug - Oct did you go back to Suburban drive-had that route but didn't go to the area....

after deputy kane met you and chewed you out...did any LE officer inspect your veh in any way...no cadavar dog inspect RK vehicle...never asked to submit samples dna....don't know if there was an investigation by LE of him....know if phone records subpoenaned? I remember him take picture of my phone but no knowledge of them subpoena my records...any knowledge of these people between Aug...what people? YM, Det Savage, ...LE people from 8/11 -
Dec 11th - read meters - read A meter on hopespring? didn't get that far...go into the woods by self...not searching again when went into woods...on 21/11/08 did you find what turned out to be remains of Caylee Marie Anthony - yes....I had never been to where that bag was - wouldnt know where that is sir...told us about see bag and skull and drew map....on Dec 11 were remains in same place or moved? It was flooded in Aug but much more grown up in Dec...didn't call to follow up w/LE - just let it go...Aug saw bag and skull...back in Dec saw same bag ? no same skull? ...I was standing behind looking @ gently put stick in right eye socket and gently pick up and gently put it down...and called LE...metal stick....put stick in eye socket of skull...yes sir I apologise ...gently pivoted it up - never took it off the ground...not stuck in mud - no ....after shock of what I found....very horrific thing...called area supervisor...didn't call 911 or crime lab..went back to veh...called Supervisor and said I needed him immediately i found human skull...Alex had been with me up til first section...it is divided into 3 sections....Alex don't remember last name - horrible with names...deputies showed up pretty quick...don't remember who talk to from SO...ask deputy for $225 or $255K reward? no sir...don't remember any discussion about the reward to be honest....remember deputy pamela Porter...don't remember any names except.....ask if you were entitled to reward if baby was dead....might have don't remember...want to keep quiet so ex wife didn't find out...may have said jokingly....
I was still upset in Dec from Aug i got chewed out for just trying to do the right thing...angry w/SO =- no not whole dept - just one person...angry were not believed apparently - no sir.....
talked to Alex Roberts Supervisor that day...discuss reward...think we were jokingly talking about it...having won the lotto? I don't remember if that was said or just play the lotto that day....Alex knew about problems having with my ex-wife....on that day had not read any meters in that neighborhood....went straight to site where remains were found...no i went into woods to relieve myself...remember talk to detectives about the reward looking for? we were discussing the crime line tip - we werent discussing the other one sir....joking with Alex Roberts about finding the body...no we were joking about the money...never joked bout finding the body...are we discussing Aug or December? have any I told you so conversations about who came up with idea of searching the area for Caylee....real clear with mr. dean you found a skull in there..told them I found something that appeared to be that...good place to dump body and nobody would smell it words t othat effect spoke w/Mr Dean...in August whole area dry enough to walk around ....I never discovered a body in August and it was in water in August....was it dry enough to walk around and not get wet in August? no i never walked into the area where found skull....it was too wet! tell me now you completely deny phone call to your son in November ...that phone call didn't happen....denying tell going to be on TV..... called him on 12/11/08 watch tv
and see him for first time since he was 8 years old..

remember ? Cutter...don't remember name...there was a woman with Deputy...yes I alluded to that earlier....talk to Ym whole history in August went to bathroom....I never found a skull in August, I did not know what it was made of...never stood over it never got that close in August....
recess

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
and CM asks for a recess

jamiect
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
#CaseyAnthony Cain says only call he made to his son was 12-11-08 not before. ***key point.
by bobkealing via twitter at 2:22 PM

Bainbridge
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Can RK sue someone for defamation of character or slander when this is over? If so, who would he sue?

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
All I can say is if I was RK, I would have definitely LOST IT by now. That is why I believe him, he is absolutely UNWAVERING as a person can be when telling the absolute truth. Can you imagine CA if she was confronted with this. People tend to embellish when they lie, so I totally believe RK, he knows the truth and that is what he is saying. IMO.

MissSallyAnnie
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
If they can't put ex-wife and son on the stand, then the jury must believe Kronk or Mason's insinuations. Hmmm

momtective
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/The_Missing/Decorated%20images/tequila.jpg

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Cain says only call he made to his son was 12-11-08 not before. ***key point.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:22 PM

Kronk: "You are making it sound like I was standing over top of [skull]." #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:22 PM

8truthseeker8
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Kronk and Melich are my heroes!!!!!!!!

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
The defense is over. they have nothing!!! See ya casey! :seeya: cant wait until verdict day!

Thanks for that.

marleysmom
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
How RK doesn't just scream, "I know your job is to get your piece of $^% client off, but don't blame me for this!!!" is BEYOND me!!!

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
:lol: CM needs a recess for a few minutes.

Probably to figure out what to do next. :rolleyes:

nursebeeme
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
closing for special break.. move over to the sidebar

RammerJammer
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
This is grueling. Plain grueling.

GetSmart
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
This has just sealed the deal ... Casey will be found guilty... These jurors are regular people ..what is that saying
"There but for the Grace of God, go I"

They see this for what it is

mombomb
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
6/28/11 - 1:30

Jury back in (1:32)

DIRECT EXAMINATION OF RK BY CM - continued

Did you advise the operator on 8/12 that you have been in the woods and you had looked down and saw a skull? No, Sir.

Stipulation - Defense Exhibit FJ (8/11), FK (8/12) and FL (8/13). 8/11/08 911 call received at 16:28 hours; 8/12/08 911 call received at 21:03 hours; 8/13/08 911 call received at 15:14 hours. Marked as Defense Exhibits 67-69.

First 911 call played - meter reader had the route including the A's home - he noticed something that looked white and a gray bag there; not saying it's Caylee's. It could be nothing. (Operator thought he said the A's lived on Good Holmes Road - he said Good Hope.) Swampy area by the school - they found a dead snake - tree lying down, back behind the tree is a gray bag and then something white. After he saw the snake, he's not going back in there.

Second 911 call - meter reader with OC, yesterday I read the A's route, got done and went down to Suburban. Called yesterday. Went down and behind one of the trees was a gray vinyl bag, like a pool cover, looks kind of suspicious. Didn't touch anything, tree looked like someone cut on it, white round board. He doesn't know what it is, but doesn't look like it belongs there. Across from the six foot high fence, gray bag a little bit closer to the school. Saw a snake yesterday and didn't go any farther into the swamp. He was then given another number, the tip line, said he didn't really want to call it being a county employee. You can still remain anonymous. Not if they find a freaking body. You can still remain anonymous even if they find a corpse.

Third 911 call - Hidden Oaks Elementary - meter reader with OC - swamp area - called in the other day and they said they would dispense an officer when he got there and he was there now. He's in a swampy area between the A's street and Hidden Oaks. He's in a blue 4 door Cavalier.

After the call on the 11th, he did nothing. The call wasn't made until 9:30 at night. He was already at home. Probably watched TV then went to bed.

On the 12th, he probably watched a little TV and went to bed. That call was also made after 9:00 p.m.

After any of the calls were made, do you recall making a recorded statement to YM? No.

He remembers going to the police office with his attorney and making a statement. He recalled saying he had been on the street before.

He knew where the A's house was at the end of the day, not at the beginning.

On 8/11 did you have any indication with your co-workers about the area being a suspicious area to put a body? They were all talking about it and Mr. Dean said it too. Mr. Dean said it was his idea to search the woods, and RK said it was his.

He stated it may have or looked like a skull. In his depo he stated it was 99.999% sure. He also stated it could have been a prop or something bought at a flea market. He also said it was a hot day and he wanted to go home and relax.

He worked on the 12, not the same route.

On the 13th, he talked to officer Cain he believes. There was a female, but he never got her name. Did you tell them that you had looked down to see the skull? He said that he was at a height above where the object was and that was why he was looking down. He pointed in the general area of where it was. He did not get within 6 to 8 feet of it.

Regarding his statement to YM, he never told them he got between 6 to 8 feet from it.

Deputy Cain went down to the water line, looked both directions, walked back, slipped in the mud and came back and chewed him out for a half an hour.

In sworn statement to YM - if he said he was 6 or 8 feet, then that is what it was.

On the 10th, he was from here to the other side of the room from the object.

He did not go back till the 12th.

OBJECTION -

SIDEBAR #5 (1:56 -1:59)

He was shown his statement and stated that he agreed he was 99.99% sure, but he did not know what it was made of - he just knew it was a skull.

He then agreed that he did say 100% certain it was a skull.

After the 13th, he did not go back or do anything with the authorities prior to the remains being found. He was not involved in any capacity.

He did go on Good Morning America in January. He was paid for a licensed picture of a snake $15,000 and collected $5,000 from Crime Line. Orange County stopped paying for his attorney and then they stopped paying him.

OBJECTION - SUSTAINED

He has been questioned since then.

He has a son named Brandon Sparks. He did not call him around Thanksgiving of 2008. He did not call him and tell him that he was soon to be famous.

Between 8/13 and 12/11, the only time he went to that area was when he had that route, but he never stopped there again. He did not go by the A's. He did not go out there again.

After Deputy Cain chewed him out, no law enforcement officer examined his vehicle. No cadaver dog was sent to his car. He was never asked to submit DNA. He doesn't know if he was investigated further. Do you know if your phone records were subpoenaed?

OBJECTION - OVERRULED

He remembered YM take a photo of his phone while he was in the meeting with YM and his attorney.

He had no contact with law enforcement between 8/13 and 12/11.

He was back in that area on December 11. He did not get tot he area of the A's house. He went back to Suburban Drive. He went into the woods. He was not searching again. He did find what turned out to be the remains of Caylee. He had never been to where the bag was, so he doesn't know if they were in the same place.

In August it was flooded and December it was not.

He did not inquire of LE what was going on between August and December.

The bag was not the same. He was standing behind it and he was looking at it from behind. He still didn't think it was real so he gently put his meter reader stick into the eye socket and picked it up and then put it down. He gently pivoted it up. He never took it off of the ground. It was not stuck in the mud. After finding what he found, the shock of it, it was very horrific.

He then called his area supervisor. He did not call Crime Line or 911. He told his supervisor that he needed him there immediately - that he had found a human skull. Alex had been with him right up to the first of the three section route. He doesn't know Alex's last name.

Deputies showed up pretty quickly. He did not recall who he talked to first. Did he ask them if he was still entitled to the reward? No, sir. He really doesn't remember. He did not remember Deputy Pamela Porter - other than YM. He might have asked if he was still entitled to the reward if that was the baby and she was dead? He might have also jokingly said he would want to keep it quiet so his ex-wife didn't hear about it. He probably asked them why they didn't do anything in August. He tried to help and he got chewed out for a half hour and got called bad things. He wasn't angry with the OCSO - just generally angry because they didn't believe him?

OBJECTION - SUSTAINED

He was not angry that he was not believed.

He talked to his supervisor Alex Roberts. He thinks they were jokingly talking about the reward. He doesn't remember if it was said that he had won the Lotto or that he should play the Lotto that day. Alex was aware of the problems he was having with his ex-wife.

He had not read any meters in that part of the neighborhood. He went into the woods to relieve himself.

Did he talk to the detectives about the reward? They were talking about the crime line tip - not the other one.

He was joking about finding the body? No - they were joking about the money. He never joked about finding the body.

After the body was found, he did not have any "I told you so" conversations with Mr. Dean.

On August 11 he told Mr. Dean that he thought he found a skull and that they had a conversation about that being a good place to dump a body and no one would smell it.

In August it was in water. It was not dry enough for him to walk around. He never walked in the area where the skull was in August.

He denied making a phone call at all in November? His son was mistaken, that phone call never happened. He told him on December 11 and told him that he had found something and that if he looked on TV he would be able to the first time since he was 8 years old.

Kathlyn Kutcher with OCSO - he doesn't remember having any conversations with anyone by that name. He agreed there was a woman with Deputy Cain.

Do you remember telling YM about what happened in August?

He said that CM was making it sound like he was standing down looking at a skull.

He was never told to not talk about the August reporting and findings.

Court recessed until 2:45

truthsleuth
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
CM requests a recess.

Good grief, just sit down man.

mck16
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Is CM just making these questions up as he goes along? CM asking for recess. Must need to relieve himself.

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
CM needs a break!

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Defense needs to give up, they havenothing and can't rattle mr kronk.

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
That evil ICA is smiling now.......

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Kronk repeats what happened in Aug. Says he didn't get close.. Just went to bathroom. Thought he saw something looked like skull. Dead snake
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:23 PM

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
She's smiling after they just talked about her baby's skull?????????????????????

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Roy Kronk, who should be the hero of the entire case, is being bludgoned by the mother of the child HE found....amazing, simpy amazing. I am disgusted with this and getting angrier by the minute...:maddening:

yeknomaras
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
omg that was just painful

anb
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Cheney Mason calling for a recess? Really?:rolleyes:

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Now CM gets to call breaks? When they haven't even been back from lunch for an hour????

kantoo
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Kronk was well prepped

#Kronk says he called son- told him he found something and to watch tv to see him. Says son hasn't seen him since he was 8.by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:22 PM

this sets up the fact that they might not be on speaking/good terms

GreenTeam
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
CM needs a break, for what?

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Please don't stone me to death but I'm a Kronk fan...

No stones here, he's just an innocent man who did the right thing.

NocturnalLady
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Casey just smiled at the jury when one of them remarked that the breaks they take are always special.

LyndyLoo
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
I cannot believe how CM is talking to (yelling at) RK asking such accusatory questions...Did he somehow get RK declared a "Hostile Witness"?? which leads to yes and no answers??..

In a way its good tho, as CM is appearing to be bullying this witness and RK is answering appropriately..Good on ya Roy...YOU ROCK!!!:great:

QueenD
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
RC should look into being a lawyer, he is great!

JB tried to make him out to be dumb and poor, but IMO RC is a very smart man.

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
RK - As I've said, in August it was under water!

:gavel:

we need to send kronk a :cupcake: for his grace under pressure

mason is trying every which way to get kronk to mess up his testimony....