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Horace Finklestein
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
That was DISGRACEFUL

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
I'm not going to argue the point......trials get UGLY. That is what we are seeing now.
It's true, and makes me so sad.

I think America is a great country and believed it had a the fairest justice system in the world, but I'm feeling disillusioned right now. Like a splash of cold water. My own fault really.

suzihawk
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
I think Mr. Kronk is handling himself fabulously! I stand in awe.


CM needs a 'special break'. :floorlaugh:

Marple
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Is he going to try to keep Kronk on the stand until 5 PM today?

Harmony2
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/16443311/1/istockphoto_16443311-click-here-enter-animation.jpg (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142166&page=6) the side bar.

ahoyhoy
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
OMG ...how sad! He really wanted his son to see him on t.v, since he hadn't seen him since he was 8! Poor Roy.....that sounds like a sad situation too for him.

Kateyes
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
Ok someone please tell me what I missed-why was ICA laughing? She looked as if it was hard to suppress it.

Nali87
06-28-2011, 02:24 PM
A recess? He's not done? LORD.

Cubby
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Asked and answered! C'mon, LDB...object!



I think she is going to let CM and the DT dig their own grave this afternoon. Let the record show their nonsense for what it is.

JMO

GetSmart
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Did you catch that big ole grin from JP ...

reeseeva
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Love Bill Schaeffer, saying, " This is the second Assassination attempt on Roy Kronk"

kelian36
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Kronk is a hero. I can't get over how well he's doing. It;s clear he is an honest man.
We love ya Kronk.:woohoo:

nursebeeme
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
closing for special break.. move over to the sidebar

move on over... doors closing

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
IIRC, according to CSI testimony, the skull was embedded in debris up to the eye sockets.

I thought the original story we heard at the time was that he kicked the skull

Nana46
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Boy ICA really has a set....good Lord. Not a flinch when he talked about the skull.....let's end this.

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:25 PM
So why did CM get to call the recess at whatever point when he wanted it?

Wise Old Owl
06-28-2011, 02:33 PM
He said he didn't lift it, he just pivoted it up a little with his meter reader stick.
And the duct tape still held the manidble to the skull! RK's testimony has done nothing BUT REINFORCE the SA's case.

Bless this man and what he did.

And as for the lottery statement. That's said quite often around here - if you find something or "get lucky" - its quite common to say "you should buy a lottery ticket".

He is incredibly credible - just like Casey Jordan just said on HLN

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06-28-2011, 02:43 PM
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TotallyObsessed
06-28-2011, 02:46 PM
Hey..why you people do that to me??? I was typing my little fingers off and SLAM.

ahoyhoy
06-28-2011, 02:46 PM
I dunno who mentioned this earlier...but a perfect cross would be just to thank him for caring enough to bring Caylee out of that swamp. JMO

JSR
06-28-2011, 02:46 PM
Sorry door got closed on me ....

Especially since he actually told the truth this morning.

I wonder how CA is feeling right now?

I think I'm in the small minority about LA. I liked that he was truthful today but I wish he wasn't just selectively truthful when it's helpful to his sister. He wasn't exactly above board on this testimony from the State and wasn't when he first testified for the defense.

He's only totally truthful when it's helpful to his sister and he can't get out of it due to his previous depositions.

I just don't think his motives are the purest.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:46 PM
Bill S says he thinks RK son will be called to stand

Florida Native
06-28-2011, 02:46 PM
I tried to get this in on the sidebar but wasn't quick enough. It is in response to someone wondering why JG is being called and if will pull a Mallory.

I believe that JG has made statements that ICA was a great mom and for her to have had anything to do with it, it would have had to have been an accident. Or something along those lines. I think that is why he is being called.

It will be interesting to see if they try and get in the abuse stuff. Supposedly she told JG that LA tried to abuse her. Anyway, that would show us if they are continuing on with the abuse theory.

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
If the real jury is anything like the mock juror, I think they are FURIOUS about what the defense team has tried to do to an innocent man. And, if they are like the mock juror, perhaps they too are thinking, I've heard enough...on to deliberations.

JMO

I wonder how many times that's happened where the jury wanted to raise their hands and say 'Next, please. Can we fast-foward to the end?'

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
If the defense team ever does manage to get out any evidence of sexual abuse...falling on deaf ears over here. I do NOT care. I just don't.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
cameras up

erinleigh
06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
If the body was in casey's trunk then it can't be kronk

shelbar53
06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
Listening to kronks voice crack and feeling remorseful for putting that sitck in the eye, tells me no way could be be moving the body all over the place. Once he realized it was a human skull, he was very respectful and horrified. NOPE he is not a body snatcher.

strawberry
06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
Is there a sidebar? What is she reading?

mysticrose
06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
I'm sorry but I can not wait for this to be over ! Justice For Caylee !

QueenD
06-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Hey..why you people do that to me??? I was typing my little fingers off and SLAM.

I know these doors today are opening and closing so fast I keep getting my fingers slammed.:loser:

Etiana
06-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Listening to kronks voice crack and feeling remorseful for putting that sitck in the eye, tells me no way could be be moving the body all over the place. Once he realized it was a human skull, he was very respectful and horrified. NOPE he is not a body snatcher.

I completely agree!

Lovejac
06-28-2011, 02:48 PM
O. M. G.

Bill S. thinks the DT is going to ask Jesse about KC telling him that LA pressured her to have sex with him.

GreenTeam
06-28-2011, 02:48 PM
I'm getting nothing done today, LOL!

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:48 PM
how many witnesses left for defense

RR0004
06-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Wherever you are Kat (my post got lost when the sidebar closed)....oxoxoxoxox.

NoeticSoul
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
The Inmate looks a little skeered. Awwww.

PhillygirlToo
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
I tried to get this in on the sidebar but wasn't quick enough. It is in response to someone wondering why JG is being called and if will pull a Mallory.

I believe that JG has made statements that ICA was a great mom and for her to have had anything to do with it, it would have had to have been an accident. Or something along those lines. I think that is why he is being called.

It will be interesting to see if they try and get in the abuse stuff. Supposedly she told JG that LA tried to abuse her. Anyway, that would show us if they are continuing on with the abuse theory.

They can't use the info that Grund was told by ICA that Lee inappropriately touched her -- that's hearsay.

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
With the reward they had posted, why wasn't half of Florida out there in that swamp looking for Caylee, is my question...

barbtries
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
Hey..why you people do that to me??? I was typing my little fingers off and SLAM.

i think that just happened to me on the sidebar thread. or is this the sidebar thread??

Lovejac
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
stand up KC

jury's coming in

MustlyLurking
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
I am starting to think the officer standing behind ICA is preventing her from sending and receiving texts. Throughout the trial, she had been texting, but today she is not.

texaslb218
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
Bringing over to respond to

Dr. Fessel.

Yes, you would. I bet.

AMMich
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
O. M. G.

Bill S. thinks the DT is going to ask Jesse about KC telling him that LA pressured her to have sex with him.

Wouldn't that be hearsay?

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
this is just lasting too long!!!

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
well well well did I just see KC nibble at a fingernail? Hmm, sounds nasty but I hope she's worried :)

dog.gone.cute
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
While I understand you cannot "sue" an attorney for making statements about you in their OS ... there should be some kind of legal remedy for Kronk and EVERYONE ELSE the DT has tried to throw under the bus !!

This has gone "beyond ridiculous" with JB, the DT and ICA !!

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
how many witnesses left for defense

Don't you mean for the prosecution? :giggle:

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
JG testifying honestly about something a known liar told him = 0

jumpinjack
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
Look at that <UNUSUAL PERSON> glaring at the man who found her daughter!

Mason is making fool out of himself and he's making the jury
hate him..... and his wicked, evil client.

Mason is interrogating like a bully so the jury will dislike him more than his loathsome client while this honest witness is testifying.

Jetaime
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
CM needs to quit. It's not working. All I can think is "This is what you get for trying to help." The same thing RK said. I bet dollars to donuts the jury is thinking the same. JMHO

BBM.You betcha they are! :)
Lets not forget that many [if not most] of these jurors are sitting on this jury because they "felt it was their civic duty". RK pretty much implied the same thing by saying he felt it was his moral obligation to make those phone calls so someone/anyone can find this baby. IMO, CM is coming off as an <unusual person>, and I can pretty much guarantee that these jurors see this. Also, RK is coming across as very believable and is rocking this testimony. He's even admitted to joking about the money, about playing the lottery, calling his son to watch for him on TV, admits to the fact that he hasn't seen his son since he was 8. He isn't trying to keep his 'history' a secret. CM can't shake him, and has no other clue how to handle him than to try to trip him up :twocents:

Steely Dan
06-28-2011, 02:49 PM
I find it hard to believe he doesn't remember if he asked about the reward or not. If I thought I was going to get $250,000 I'd remember thinking that. Especially when I ended up not getting it.

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
God Bless Judge Perry. I can't help but admire and adore him.

TiaM
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
Intern just set down a styro cup in Baez' place.

I'm guessing it's his afternoon Red Bull. :loser:

Miss Anarchy
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
With the reward they had posted, why wasn't half of Florida out there in that swamp looking for Caylee, is my question...

Because a lot of us didn't want to get involved with the media circus that we saw this was going to become.

suzihawk
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
DING! Round three. First two go to Kronk. Mason looking a little dazed and shaken. :)

reeseeva
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
Comic Relief, Bill Schaeffer just said "I think they will call Krystal Rivers to the stand"

ahoyhoy
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
Bill S says he thinks RK son will be called to stand

They better not waste EVERYBODY'S time with this if the phone records and the son back up RK's story....Is CM just going to call the son and (IMO) berate him with the same innuendo over & over? Do they think that will help?

BetteDavisEyes
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
Bill S. was speculating during the recess that Jesse Grund is likely to open the door to questioning about the alleged molestation issues re: Lee and/or George.

JBounds
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
OK but why didn't the DT ask LA if he did try to molest Casey? Sounds like a hearsay concoction to me.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
I could not withstand the pressure Roy Kronk has been under, he deserves major kudos for managing to come through this looking like a sane person! If he has done this well under CM, imagine how helpful it will be to Caylee when he answers the SA questions!

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
They can't use the info that Grund was told by ICA that Lee inappropriately touched her -- that's hearsay.

Is it heresay that she told him that? It doesn't make it true but I thought if someone told you something, it was not heresay?

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
I'm getting nothing done today, LOL!

Me neither...UGH

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
With the reward they had posted, why wasn't half of Florida out there in that swamp looking for Caylee, is my question...

3 words-- Zanny the Nanny. mo

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
Wherever you are Kat (my post got lost when the sidebar closed)....oxoxoxoxox.

Back at ya my friend! :blowkiss:

ShortPotato79
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
Hi! New here! Long time lurker, deciding to join in the fun.

I still to this day do not understand why the DT are accusing RK of moving the body around. Who would do that?!

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
If the defense team ever does manage to get out any evidence of sexual abuse...falling on deaf ears over here. I do NOT care. I just don't.

I agree with you. After all, ICA is not accused of killing her alleged sexual abuser. She's accused of killing her innocent baby daughter. Using sexual abuse as a "reason" or a defense for killing her baby and celebrating afterwards is nonsensical.

Nali87
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
O. M. G.

Bill S. thinks the DT is going to ask Jesse about KC telling him that LA pressured her to have sex with him.

Isn't that hearsay? Put her on the stand and let her tell the jury. Liar, that she is. :maddening:

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:50 PM
O. M. G.

Bill S. thinks the DT is going to ask Jesse about KC telling him that LA pressured her to have sex with him.
I doubt this will matter to the jury, because it's already been proven that KC is a liar, so really, who gives a crap what she told anyone. If she told me it was not raining, I'd grab my umbrella.

Emma Peel
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
Bringing over to respond to

Dr. Fessel.

Yes, you would. I bet.

Yeah he would. I'd make him say he would. Then he'd thank me for making him say he would. Then we'd take a nap on his park bench. Because, yeah, he'd need a nap before searching.

Chiquita71
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
While I understand you cannot "sue" an attorney for making statements about you in their OS ... but there should be some kind of legal remedity for Kronk and EVERYONE ELSE the DT has tried to throw under the bus !!

This has gone "beyond ridiculous" with JB, the DT and ICA !!

:tyou: dog.gone.cute

Thank you for saying ..."beyond ridiculous"...truly. :yes:

animlzrule
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
TH on HLN saying the fact that RK waited until 9:00pm to make his phone calls is suspicious and that is what CM should be driving that home to the jury. Why is that so suspicious?? He was working, and admittedly wasn't sure that he had seen anything of import. I imagine it was a bit of working up his courage....Again, it's amazing how a bunch of people can all watch the same thing and come up with differing opinions, perceptions, etc. :waitasec:

erinleigh
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
kronk was well prepped

#kronk says he called son- told him he found something and to watch tv to see him. Says son hasn't seen him since he was 8.by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:22 pm

this sets up the fact that they might not be on speaking/good terms

here we go

bonjoviblonde
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
I think they are going to ask Jessie about her telling him LA molested her and also about the statement Jessie made about how he could see Casey lying and living in a fantasy world if something happened to Caylee.

CarolAnn
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
She doesn't look to thrilled with him.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/62839183.jpg

I don't know..it looks to me as though he's reading something she's showing him. ????

doubt
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
has the existence of the "psychic" who told ca where to search been verified? if not, i wouldn't be surprised if it was ica.

dog.gone.cute
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
I am starting to think the officer standing behind ICA is preventing her from sending and receiving texts. Throughout the trial, she had been texting, but today she is not.

And so she does not go BALLISTIC like she did this past Friday ! :crazy:

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
I hate that RK's son is also being dragged into this.

jane the dood
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
well well well did I just see KC nibble at a fingernail? Hmm, sounds nasty but I hope she's worried :)


I saw it, too....definitely a nervous nibble.

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
Meh...I still have to look up my own phone number.

Florida Native
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
They can't use the info that Grund was told by ICA that Lee inappropriately touched her -- that's hearsay.

Yes but I wouldn't put it past them to try. imo.

rice09
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Oh for crying out loud with making this man say his phone number!!! As if he doesn't have it right in front of him!!

stilettos
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Good Lord CM..enough.

Lovejac
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
can someone tell me why CM is asking questions about how many times he called his son and if his son called him or if he called his son, etc, etc.

Intermezzo
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
O. M. G.

Bill S. thinks the DT is going to ask Jesse about KC telling him that LA pressured her to have sex with him.

I hope Jesse can say ICA lied to him and told him he was the father of her baby, knowing full well she was already pregnant when she met Jesse in Jan 2005 and then after Caylee was bornl he got a paternity test done that proved he was not the father

Elphaba
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Hi! New here! Long time lurker, deciding to join in the fun.

I still to this day do not understand why the DT are accusing RK of moving the body around. Who would do that?!


Welcome, ShortPotato... always a pleasure to have a new "voice" thrown into the mix here at WS. I agree, it makes no sense...

Soulmagent
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Court tv blocked out the number after it has been said in court like 10 times.

Also did anyone catch when mason addressed Kronk when he came back after the break it sounded like he said crock.

SyraKelly
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Wouldn't that be hearsay?

no-because it was a conversation between ICA and him

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Mason has a ton of papers on the podium.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:50 PM

Kronk says "the phone call my son is talking about never happened." #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:50 PM

Mason cont. with Kronk. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:50 PM

FaerieB
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
If RK was so motivated by money, why would he wait four months to report his (second) discovery? And why would he call the wrong number? This line of questioning is falling flat for me. :twocents:

sandangel
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Here we go again! How many times is Mason going to ask the same questions over and over? :banghead:

ljs713
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
I can't wait until this brutal testimony with CM is over. This poor guy is not on trial ICA is. All the defense is doing is making the case stronger for the state.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
The money thing is gross, pot meet kettle kind of gross.

Wholehearted
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
I don't understand how this whole molestation JG/LA thing will work. Even if JG does get to say what Casey told him about LA, does it even make a difference if LA doesn't get questioned about it? Why isn't the DT questioning him about it? I mean, if I were a juror, I can imagine thinking that even a molestor would deny it. But it just is ridiculous for the DT not to ask. It makes it blatantly clear that they don't believe their own theory.

luckyme
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Are they gonna put son on stand or what? this is old. hearsay!!!

grammieto5
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
I can believe not knowing phone numbers, I just find their names and push the button. I don't even know my C#

chasing.halos
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
http://ipole.tv/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/l_3faed480d72d822b675b6c2ca755d9b6.jpg

mistermissy
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
I don't know..it looks to me as though he's reading something she's showing him. ????

The script?

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
If CM is going to try to make such a big deal out of whether or not RK said he was going to be famous, maybe he should also talk about him wanting to be anonymous in the 911 call.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
the craziness continues

and around and around we go

barbtries
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
Me neither...UGH
that makes at least three of us. dang.

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
Intern just set down a styro cup in Baez' place.

I'm guessing it's his afternoon Red Bull. :loser:

Yeppers, I was telling someone about JB and his RedBull's yesterday! Funny! IMO.

Miss Anarchy
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
With cell phones storing so many # in memory now-a-days, a lot of people don't remember people's phone numbers anymore. Its technology.

cloud9
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
Seriously, is CM EVER going to STOP asking the same stuff, over and again??????????????????:maddening:

strawberry
06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
I wonder if ICA said something like "I'm gonna kill him" when she snarled about JB the other day.

JSR
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
I don't know..it looks to me as though he's reading something she's showing him. ????

That's what I get and she's reading his expression as he reads her note.

Pattymarie
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
KC still be guarded very closely!

Marple
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
Breaking news.. Roy has to eat too.

doubt
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
TH on HLN saying the fact that RK waited until 9:00pm to make his phone calls is suspicious and that is what CM should be driving that home to the jury. Why is that so suspicious?? He was working, and admittedly wasn't sure that he had seen anything of import. I imagine it was a bit of working up his courage....Again, it's amazing how a bunch of people can all watch the same thing and come up with differing opinions, perceptions, etc. :waitasec:

of all the talking heads, the stuff she's said today has got to make the least amount of sense.

Camille
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
I could not withstand the pressure Roy Kronk has been under, he deserves major kudos for managing to come through this looking like a sane person! If he has done this well under CM, imagine how helpful it will be to Caylee when he answers the SA questions!

I feel incredibly sorry for him being put in this situation.

Boytwnmom
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
why would he ever have thought he woudl get that?




I find it hard to believe he doesn't remember if he asked about the reward or not. If I thought I was going to get $250,000 I'd remember thinking that. Especially when I ended up not getting it.

kellypr
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
I believe that Roy is holding back some stuff that he said (i.e. Roy has to eat too), but I don't think he is lying about the body...

Florida Native
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
CM doesn't understand that people rarely memorize phone #'s anymore.

It's this newfangled contraption called a cellular phone.

Except for my husband's number, I couldn't tell you a single person's number that is in my phone. I'd seriously be lost if I lost the phone.

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
Hi! New here! Long time lurker, deciding to join in the fun.

I still to this day do not understand why the DT are accusing RK of moving the body around. Who would do that?!
bbm
Well, according to the DT "Roy has to eat too". Keeping a child's remains in your car or house isn't the first thing you think of to make money?

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
REWARDS are offered so that people come forward with information

So what if he wanted any reward he got to be confidential

RK did NOT move the body

minazoe
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
wonder what she does when she sees Jessie...i see a meltdown coming.....

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
Oh good grief. So, because he said "Roy has to eat too", that makes him a body hider? :waitasec:

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
I doubt this will matter to the jury, because it's already been proven that KC is a liar, so really, who gives a crap what she told anyone. If she told me it was not raining, I'd grab my umbrella.

LOL her own defense called her a liar in their opening statement. I was like WTH? LOL sorry but that cracked up when they did.

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
Prayers for Mr. Kronk

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 02:54 PM
How long is this going to continue? This man found Cayee, FGS!

mistermissy
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
I could see myself saying something dumb like that too "Roy has to eat too", it would probably go toward my decision to get involved or not. IMO

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
Think I'll go scrub my bathtub.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
It's okay Kronk if you did talk about being famous of needing money, I don't fault him for that.

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
The script?
I immediately thought a Text, IMO.

allycat1208
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
Isn't that hearsay? Put her on the stand and let her tell the jury. Liar, that she is. :maddening:

I think if JG was told something by ICA and he explains what she said to him this would not be hearsay.

kaRN
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
Sorry, I disagree here. Kronk was only trying to help. There is no excuse for chewing out a concerned citizen for half an hour! None whatsoever. He swore to protect and serve.

If the LEO can't hack it, then he needs to find another line of work.

LEO agreed with you and fired him for his handling of Kronk and his call.

jane the dood
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
Hi! New here! Long time lurker, deciding to join in the fun.

I still to this day do not understand why the DT are accusing RK of moving the body around. Who would do that?!

:welcome5:
Someone like ICA...but definitely not Kronk! The poor guy.

monique
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
With cell phones storing so many # in memory now-a-days, a lot of people don't remember people's phone numbers anymore. Its technology.

Couldn't tell you my son's phone number, yet we talk every day.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
Breaking news.. Roy has to eat too.


Breaking news...apparently he also pees. The scandal!!!

Emma Peel
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
IMO, Jesse Grund is a wealth of insightful Casey information for both sides.

I like the shower story myself.

IMO, DT needs to be careful of all of the doors they could open with a JG testimony/cross.

I mean, he & his family believed that baby was his for the longest time ... and no one in the Anthony's ever volunteered otherwise.

Guess you could say, he has some experience in common with Lee. Loop-wise.

Soulmagent
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
RK is not on trial so why exactly is he acting like he might say something ,he is guarded for sure and really it doesnt make sence.

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
If CM is going to try to make such a big deal out of whether or not RK said he was going to be famous, maybe he should also talk about him wanting to be anonymous in the 911 call.

Hopefully this will be addressed on cross! :great:

nursebeeme
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
careful careful careful when posting about the defense team... always keep TOS in mind. ;-)

Shelby1
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
Think I'll go scrub my bathtub.
Do mine too, please lol

Enola
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
This is utterly ridiculous - CM is making my stomach curl up in to a fist. If I feel anxious, goodness knows what amazing strength of will is keeping RK in control. This isn't a direct, it's a continous beat-down until they make some mud stick.

The Eunice Burns
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
With cell phones storing so many # in memory now-a-days, a lot of people don't remember people's phone numbers anymore. Its technology.

Well, as JB said sometime ago, "Some of our experts are beyond the age of technology." :innocent:

Pattymarie
06-28-2011, 02:55 PM
wonder what she does when she sees Jessie...i see a meltdown coming.....

Oh man...I didn't think of that.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Kronk denies talking to detectives about needing money. Then when asked again yes "Jokingly, I probably did" #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:55 PM

Kronk: Discussed several things with Melich, including keeping a low profile. #CAseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:54 PM

Amster
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Roy, start saying I do not recall. Say it over and over. Make CM show you the deposition.

kellypr
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
uh oh - this could be a bad inconsistent statement regarding the skull rolling out and lifting the bag, etc. I don't like this part.

pcrum12
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Am I the only one getting how important it is that RK moved the skull? SA is saying it was submerged in the dirt and had roots growing through it.

chasing.halos
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
I really miss JA and LDB right now.

Cubby
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Hi! New here! Long time lurker, deciding to join in the fun.

I still to this day do not understand why the DT are accusing RK of moving the body around. Who would do that?!



Welcome to WS ShortPotato79

:welcome: :wagon:

sorrell skye
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Now Kronk lifted the bag??!!

I thought he previously stated that he didn't touch the bag.

Then he stated that he put his meter reader stick into the eye socket.

How many versions of this story are there?

smartsass
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
It's 8:49am here in Oahu and I'm just tuning into the trial.
Rut-roh, folks! The wheels are coming off the cart, Baez should have followed this advice:
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

Well, they got part of it right.

I hate to think this way as regardless of what a person has done, no one deserves to be sexually abused. That being said, if one is a habitual liar and the DT has already conceded that ICA is, how can such allegations, without some kind of substantiating proof, be made? Jesse Grund, no matter how credible, is not going to (IMO) raise enough reasonable doubt as to whether those allegations are true. Additionally, IMO, I don't believe that will change how the jury views this case except at the most, some jurors may vote LWOP over DP.

(Note- I don't believe the sexual abuse allegations are true, goodness knows, I hope I'm right. Also, I couldn't vote DP and I don't think she'll receive that any way.)

Is Kronk coming off bad here? Will it matter? I mean even if he made these comments about $$$, I don't find it at all plausible he carried around Caylee's body. Have they addressed how he got the body since they want to make this argument? They've covered the whole root/plant growth which I hope they keep mentioning and keep mentioning.

Happy Tuesday to you all!

luckyme
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Yikes i guess defense has given up on coaching casey! No tears or anything!

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
haven’t we already heard all of this

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
It's okay Kronk if you did talk about being famous of needing money, I don't fault him for that.

I agree, if I found something that a reward was offered for, and I thought I might get a reward after that fact, why could I then not talk about it? I don't see a problem there, IMO.

ljs713
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Wow that statement about the duct tape really helped the defense. Notttt

Boodles
06-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Are they gonna put son on stand or what? this is old. hearsay!!!

Probably, they have called everyone else on God's earth at least once, why not also Roy's son?

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
There goes HLN, right to commercial in the middle of a sentence...great job they do.

TexasDoll
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Point for CM -- RK did raise the bag off the ground.

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Special thoughts and prayers going to mr kronk to stay calm and be accurate.

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
not even a blink from ICA when CM mentioned stick in Caylee's eye socket!

RammerJammer
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Eye socket of skull....again, no reaction from ICA.

anb
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
IMO, Jesse Grund is a wealth of insightful Casey information for both sides.

I like the shower story myself.

IMO, DT needs to be careful of all of the doors they could open with a JG testimony/cross.

I mean, he & his family believed that baby was his for the longest time ... and no one in the Anthony's ever volunteered otherwise.

Guess you could say, he has some experience in common with Lee. Loop-wise.

What shower story? Thanks!

rice09
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Another mention of sticking the stick in the eye socket. Nada from ICA. She makes me ill.

aim
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
How much longer can this go on? Poor guy!!

JSR
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
This is so brutal. CM makes everything Kronk did was a crime. Everything. I hope his tone turns the jury.

lacytrace
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Where is the proof that Casey has been texting throughout this trial, as some have stated? Y'all are just speculating, right?

Cherry Baby
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
I cannot think that a whole day of battering Roy Kronk is going to make a good impression on the jury. DT has really blown this one.

Steely Dan
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
why would he ever have thought he woudl get that?

CM mentioned him asking an officer about it, I'm assuming they can prove he did. I know that's a big leap to believe about the defense but if they don't they'll look more stupid.

Marple
06-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Blah blah blah. I want to hear about how GA handed off little Caylee to RK.

technicalconfusion
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
RK is not on trial so why exactly is he acting like he might say something ,he is guarded for sure and really it doesnt make sence.

Maybe because he's being *treated* like he was on trial??

ShortPotato79
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
bbm
Well, according to the DT "Roy has to eat too". Keeping a child's remains in your car or house isn't the first thing you think of to make money?


Wouldnt be my first choice for an income...lol I kinda missed how they want to tie RK into the DTs story..

Boodles
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
Can the prosecution make an "objection - obnoxious!"

Florida Native
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
RK is not on trial so why exactly is he acting like he might say something ,he is guarded for sure and really it doesnt make sence.

I am sure being made out to be a body snatcher who is morally bankrupt and dragged in to Court in a murder trial for it, would cause some to put a guard up.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
the truth is that RK did not put the remains there and he is not involved

Novice Seeker
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
Hi! New here! Long time lurker, deciding to join in the fun.

I still to this day do not understand why the DT are accusing RK of moving the body around. Who would do that?!


:welcome4:

Great group of posters to hang with. Jump in and enjoy all of the
:pullhair: :rollercoaster: :slap: :blowkiss: :pillowfight:
:slapfight: :tipsy: :poke: we do. :great:

Kat
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
Okay that was badgering. "forget the statment tell the truth" someone should have said something JMHO

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
RK: Skull didn't roll out or fall out of the bag.

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
So........who gave CM all these new questions during the recess?

ZsaZsa
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
CM might as well give up, he is not going to force Kronk to say anything that is not true.

D96s
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
How does all this prove ICA didn't kill her baby???

SevenSeas
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
this is just lasting too long!!!

I agree, a better attorney would've stopped before further carnage ensued and regrouped.

davehead21
06-28-2011, 02:58 PM
This is becoming REALLY difficult to listen to.

rose222
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Why is this <unusual> person yelling?

Plumeria5
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
This reminds me of an old rerun of Matlock starring Andy Griffith. Only thing is those shows were over in a hour but this questioning of RK seems will never end.

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
I can't wait until this brutal testimony with CM is over. This poor guy is not on trial ICA is. All the defense is doing is making the case stronger for the state.
Just think, KC has the right to remain silent to protect herself, yet people like Kronk do not. They can be smeared by the defense, accused, and stil have to get on the stand and answer for themselves.

Poor Kronk. I feel so sad for him.

doubt
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
RK is not on trial so why exactly is he acting like he might say something ,he is guarded for sure and really it doesnt make sence.

bc he's been "on trial" for 3 years now. and if you read this thread and turn the tv on......sounds to me like he still is.

all of which is entirely disgusting.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
SA has to stress how many trash bags and rubbish were in the area. mo

Softail
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Why is CM yelling? :waitasec: I know that CJBP does not have hearing problems (as he has said many times) and neither do I!

This isn't helping to show that RK ever did anything with Caylee's remains, except FIND HER!

Shear22
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
When is someone going to file a motion asking for three independent experts to examine Cheney and Baez' competency to proceed? This is ridiculous. How can the past four hours possibly help their case?

mistermissy
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Okay, Dude, the man has said a gazillion times he did not move the skull up off the ground!!! If he had the weeds still would not had been up in there. Jeez, now I am pizzed!!!!

Marple
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Lots of testimony about him touching or not touching little Caylee's skull and whether it rolled, dropped or thunked out of the the bag. Kronk says it did not roll out of the bag even though he said it in his depo. Kronk has apologized again and again and said that was a mistake in his depo.

Leila
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
What shower story? Thanks!

On June 30, 2008, KC went to Jesse's apartment and asked if she could use his shower.

katydid23
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
RK is not on trial so why exactly is he acting like he might say something ,he is guarded for sure and really it doesnt make sence.

Why wouldn't he be nervous and guarded? Baez accused him publicly in his OS of being involved in this murder case. I would be nervous as heck if I were him.

kantoo
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Has the DT forgotten that the point was Kronk had/hid this bag for months??

liltexans
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Mason suggesting Kronk altered the position of the remains.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 1:58 PM

Kronk: Lifted bag. Skull did not come out in any way. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:58 PM

smartsass
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
I am starting to think the officer standing behind ICA is preventing her from sending and receiving texts. Throughout the trial, she had been texting, but today she is not.

She has access to a phone??!!

Steely Dan
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
What shower story? Thanks!

One day while KC was dating Tony she showed up at JG's and asked if she could take a shower. He let her in and she took a shower.

Amster
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
FGS!! CM, ask your client what the truth is!!

sorry....sitting on hands.....

Eidetic
06-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Does CM talk to his client this way? "Is today's version...."

Camille
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
RK is not on trial so why exactly is he acting like he might say something ,he is guarded for sure and really it doesnt make sence.


They have accused him of finding a body, hiding it and then putting it where it was eventually found. I do believe that is a crime. He's been investigated, phone records subpoenaed and some have even accused him of having to do with Caylee's disappearance. He has every reason to be on guard.

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
I am sure being made out to be a body snatcher who is morally bankrupt and dragged in to Court in a murder trial for it, would cause some to put a guard up.
Yes, exactly.

My God, I'd be terrified of saying anything at all if I were in Kronk's shoes right now.

strawberry
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
Uggh I can't wait to hear "no further questions". I can't stand listening to this.

LyndyLoo
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
Am I the only one getting how important it is that RK moved the skull? SA is saying it was submerged in the dirt and had roots growing through it.


Caylee's skull was on the surface, it was her pelvic bone that was half buried in the muck..

I can only be grateful that Hoover and Casey didnt find Caylee, given all the probing they did with sticks and tearing open garbage bags!!:crazy:

Wishbone
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
I'm sure ICA is very pleased with this slamming of RK. Good job CM

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
:deadhorse:

MaryAnn
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
CM trying for his Perry Mason moment. Kinda sad actually.


Another one bites the dust because of ICA. We should take a headcount of how many lives have been messed up due to ICA

TiaM
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
OK DT, let me see if I've got this right.

It's quite natural, OK and expected for Cindy Anthony to have her selective memory come and go, and she can chalk it up to medication or stress or the cycles of the moon and tides, but it's not OK for anyone else to not remember every single word they've said in multiple LE reports, interviews with the media, or attorney depositions?

M'kay.

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
It doesn't matter this go round, the state will go over the highlights of his testimony.:seeya:

Murphismo
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
IMO with the rest of you, this is really making the defence look very bad badgering him, just get out while you can and get that poor guy off the stand!

wenwe4
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
RK w/CM - spoke w/his son 12-15 times between Aug and Dec from his cell...gave number...on any of those conversations did you tell him your were going to be famous/rich/.....NO.....make money? not really - talk about when he got out of coast guard going into business.....any time comment to Detectives that Roy has to eat too? no sir.....12/2009 recorded statement with YM ...pg 44 - engage in conversation with YM ,,,,,Roy has to eat too....jokingly I probably did....story change regard what you found and how found it....once had chance to think about it made mistake in orginal statement....marked #FM - recognize statement handwriting date 12/11/08 - evidence....object-sustained...cant hear....
on that day anything about bag poke w/stick - yes....bag opened small human skull with duct tape and hair dropped out...yes that was my original statement...didn't say in statement that you had lifted bag...don't remember...did in fact lift out back arms length straight out...standing....didn't put in statement that or stick meter reader stick into eye socket of skull...no...we had a verbal conversation where I said those things I just neglected to write them down...forgot to tell them? no sir....@ depo w/JB and myself ....really dont remember....lift bag 4' off ground - true when did that skull dropped out...skull rolled out...I told you I made mistake on first statement...forget statement ....did lift bag-yes...skull roll out- NO did you move skull...I told you I moved it with my stick had I known I wouldn't have done that....what version is correct...what I told you today.....

CM looking up statements

nativeSFL
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
I have to disagree with the idea that the DT is just doing their job. This man (RK) did one thing~he found little Caylee's remains. That's it. He has not made any accusations against a single person in this case including the defendant. Why is he being treated as if he has and would need to be discredited? This really goes way beyond any DT tactic. Unnecessary and is going to backfire on them.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
Kronk says in his initial statement he said he lifted bag and skull "fell out" "rolled out" says he lifted it until his arm was straight out
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:59 PM

FLmom777
06-28-2011, 03:00 PM
People will not want to get involved. I once witnessed a man hitting a woman at a gas station. He threw her on the hood of the car and all the people around were ignoring it. I hollered over asking if she wanted the police. When she said yes, I went to the pay phone and called 911. I waited for the police and gave them a statement. While on the phone, the man came and tried to stop me from calling, but I am pretty stubborn.

I felt that I did a good deed and forgot about it. Several months later, I was served with a subpoena, very late in the day, at work ordering my appearance the next day in court. When I called the attorney, representing the woman, he cursed me out for telling him that it was extremely difficult for me to appear without notice. I was the only employee for a pediatrician and there was no time to get coverage for the office. I did appear. I waited a very long time, over an hour, before a court employee even spoke to me and asked why I was there. Once I was called, I was asked what I saw and was done. I did. request to speak to the judge about the demeanor of the atty on the phone. He allowed it so I told him about the foul language I wa exposed to by this man. I would hope that something was done about it.

Would I do the same again if I witnessed something? Yes, because I think the woman was I'd danger. I would not stay to give a statement the next time.

Bon
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
And Casey just sits there and doesn't have to say a word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something wrong with this picture!!! :(

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
jury must be wondering same things as we are

CM not making any inroads

word semantics

dumb game CM

Dragonlady
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
SA has to stress how many trash bags and rubbish were in the area. mo
I agree, to this day you can find lot's of garbage bags out there.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
One would think they would have all key statements tabbed for easy finding.

UESwifey
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
HLN saying CM is making headway with RK - Are we watching the same trial??

cityslick
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
She has access to a phone??!!

I really wish people would stop stating speculation as fact. She does not have access to a phone, she cannot text on a phone. It will be confiscated from her if she is found doing it.

Curious Me
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
CM is acting so outraged that RK tried to lift the skull just a bit to see what it was. The more CM does this, the angrier I get at ICA. CM should quit this tactic.

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
IDK, Mr. Mason, you're taking so long it feels like July.

Hopeful One
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
wonder what she does when she sees Jessie...i see a meltdown coming.....

BBM

Now wouldn't that be fun??

Justin Tyme
06-28-2011, 03:01 PM
Crap - He said after the bag was lifted off of it he seen the skull. If the bag was on it how could he have seen it under the log? Does leave doubt. I hate to say it. Now ducking the incoming tomatoes.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Okay, we get it, for whatever reason he made a mistake in his testimony. So he might have moved the evidence slightly, I wish he hadn't but he did. How does that make ICA not guilty??

grammieto5
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
So, what if RK moved the skull, KC and JB already said baby Caylee died by drowning, right? So what does it matter what RK did. If RK moved baby Caylee where did he move her from, and how did baby Caylee get where RK moved her from?

Scamperoo
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Am I the only one getting how important it is that RK moved the skull? SA is saying it was submerged in the dirt and had roots growing through it.


Submerged in leaf mulch which supports excellent plant and root growth.

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
I cannot even imagine how I would feel if I ever was to find a skull, no less, a baby's skull.

RoseTree
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
I so wish that this would happen:

RK admits to talking about a reward, to talking about being famous, etc....

That he admits that he wondered if thats where Caylee was.

That he admits to saying those things to his son.

And then, that he explains while it is inappropriate in court, and that it sounds bad, that talking and joking is how he deals with things like this (CLEARLY, even if he did something suspicious, homeboy couldn't keep his mouth shut) and that in retrospect it was inappropriate, but that it was a stressful moment, etc.... and that he did it.

I really think that while CM is trying to be lawyer of the year, it would diffuse some of the speculation that has now arisen even more than it had before. Accountability for ones actions often diffuses situations like this.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
so glad RK settles down and answers calmly

mimmy03
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
I haven't been able to follow the trial continuously, but from what I've noticed JB hasn't done any questioning since Saturday. Am I correct? Or has he questioned witnesses since then?

Eileen730
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Where is the proof that Casey has been texting throughout this trial, as some have stated? Y'all are just speculating, right?

Yes but it sure looked it! She is not doing it today tho. LOL

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
The guy was a mess. He found a skull. Perhaps the nuances were different but he is consistent.

kaRN
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
RK is not on trial so why exactly is he acting like he might say something ,he is guarded for sure and really it doesnt make sence.

Take a walk in his shoes and maybe you'll understand. He's not on trial, you got that right. The Mother is and has chosen a defense theory that places blame at everyone's door except hers.

Much more of this and she will get the DP. I'll start the IV myself.

Nali87
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Still not getting the point> I didn't hear a thing today that convinced me this was a tragic accident. I might be opening youtube to watch the Golden Girls if CM keeps this up..

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 03:02 PM
They're going to ask JG all kinds of questions that will be objected but that's never stopped them before. Being sustained doesn't stop Baez.

Jada85
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
Any opinions on how the SA will be during cross? I personally think they are going to be soft w/ RK, kind of show the jury how tense the DT direct was. IMO.

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
So where's the proof he moved it there? Or why he did that?

Steely Dan
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
If the skull was at his feet then how did it get found with leaf litter on it

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
Oh, Please give it up Mason

Kateyes
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
One thought keeps going over and over in my mind as I watch these "cockamamie" questions (thanks to the poster who used that word). It is that it is purely because the DT is defending an indefensible client that the questions are worded as they are, and that RK has been made a villain by the DT. There is no plausible, believable defense to put on, and the jurors will surely see beyond this farce. iMO

ljs713
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
The jurors must be pulling their hair out by now. This just makes no sense and to me has absolutely no relavance to this case whatsoever. He found the body and now he is being crucified.

Hugs to Kronk

Trident
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
In my opinion, this part of our justice system is rotten, and may explain why many innocent people get convicted. It seems the lawyers are allowed to poke and pry at everything, again, and again, and again. After a while, some people will give up, or mistakenly say something. I believe this part of our system needs to be overhauled.

The Eunice Burns
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
Blah blah blah. I want to hear about how GA handed off little Caylee to RK.

Me too. I don't give a rats paw if he thought he'd make money or how many times he called his son. I don't think the jury will either.

We want to hear the DT show us how he got ahold of Caylee's remains from George and where they were before he "placed them" where he found them months later, according to the defense. Does the DT think the jury will not be even mildly curious as to how that supposedly happened?

ahoyhoy
06-28-2011, 03:03 PM
Am I the only one getting how important it is that RK moved the skull? SA is saying it was submerged in the dirt and had roots growing through it.

It was in muck---with the duct tape across the face and the hair mat around & under it. The roots were growing into the hair mat. Roy TILTED the skull upwards to confirm what it was only, then let it back down. RK & OCSO would have BROKEN the roots when they moved the skull, but no doubt they had been growing there until that day. JMO

HOTNTX
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
WTH??? It rolled out, tumbled out, backflipped out???? Who gives a damn? This is unbelievable. I'm sure that the jury is completely "checked out" by this redundant and inconsequential questioning by CM. An EPIC failure by the DT.

chasing.halos
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
http://i88.servimg.com/u/f88/14/08/08/73/caylee12.jpg

Pattymarie
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
And Casey just sits there and doesn't have to say a word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something wrong with this picture!!! :(

Maybe she is afraid of the guard standing 1 foot behind her!

suzihawk
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt the trial of Casey Anthony to bring you the trial of Roy Kronk.

Fluffy Puppy
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
So this is it? Their big conspirator who somehow got a body after George did something with it? Then stored it somewhere for months and put it in the woods ? Didn't t hey call him morally bankrupt or something like that?
Oh man, the jury must be getting it by now. Wonder if the DT tries to get the state to accept a plea at this point? Cause they have LESS than nothing.

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
One would think they would have all key statements tabbed for easy finding.

This team? They seem to be allergic to work and organization. lol

Moe
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
I'm going to scrub my tub too.

summerthyme
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
CM's skipping around is really hard for me to follow.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
Kronk says finding that "unnerved him" #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:01 PM

#caseyanthony def att Mason trying to get Kronk to admit he didn't tell truth about picking "bag up 4 ft off ground" and "skull rolling out"
by abcashleigh via twitter at 2:01 PM

Now Kronk says that didn't happen. Mason says forget statement, what is the truth. Kronk says it didn't fall or roll out. #CaseyAnthony
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:00 PM

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
They're going to ask JG all kinds of questions that will be objected but that's never stopped them before. Being sustained doesn't stop Baez.

They are just putting JG on the stand so Baez can testify to the sexual abuse through leading questions.

MasonJunior
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
<<<<<< I have to say that after this, a lot of potential good Samaritans might think twice about calling police upon finding human remains.... >>>>>>


Character assassination - think it's wrong for the defense to imply RK is morally bankrupt. So what if RK was obsessively/compulsive about the missing child case. All of us have some sort of behavior flaws. In the same way investigative services have theirs.

[ i.e. Around here - according to sheriff webpage - it takes hours to get response to a night noise complaint. Report shows repeated calls made. Finally, after 3 hours my neighbor sez, 'called them not to come cuz the boozer shut down his music.' ]

Thanks to the TV media for RK credit for doing a 'stand-up' job.

MomCat
06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
RK on 911 tape: I saw something white. After seeing that dead snake, I'm not going back in there.

What's the problem?

Dead rattlesnakes can still invenomate you. That's why you handle even dead ones *very carefully.*