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imawitch
06-28-2011, 03:32 PM
Baez needs to mix it up a bit.

He almost always starts every sentence with "Aaannnnddd...." and after the witness answers, he says "Mmkay...."

and dont forget, he some times starts his sentence by saying " nooooooooooooowwwwwwww" lol

now, lol

Softail
06-28-2011, 03:32 PM
So what now - JB is going to tell this man that RK referred to him as a "little girl" for being scared of a snake? :snake: :waitasec:

strawberry
06-28-2011, 03:32 PM
I hope this guy doesn't kronk Kronk. Picture pages, picture pages come and get your picture pages.

Soulmagent
06-28-2011, 03:32 PM
Does everyone in the world except me Baez and Cheney think Roy Kronk is completely honest?

Beatrice
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
I'd like to hear from the female corrections officer that dated Roy Kronk.

BuzzieCat
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Oh boy, ICA is underlining and circling things and JB is getting out his easel and posterboard. :crazy:

Bon
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
How can she (ICA) not feel bad about destroying this mans life?! He's just an innocent bystander!

Sad to say but she doesn't feel bad killing her own flesh and blood..beautiful 2 yr old Caylee Marie Anthony........................................... .. that says alot!!!

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
I don't know but my guess is that she has been maybe texting, reading something, writing something(under the table), etc. that she isn't supposed to be doing. With a deputy right behind her, it would make it harder for her to hide what she is doing.
I don't think she's been txting, that I've seen.

I think she's being guarded so closely because of her burst of fury on Friday. It was truly a sight to behold. Her true nature really came out, IMO.

bonjoviblonde
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Ok, the defense says Kronk took the body from George and hid it to find later, but THEY DON'T ASK HIM.

The defense says Lee molested Casey, but THEY DON'T ASK HIM.

The defense says George molested Casey, but THEY DON'T ASK HIM.

The State has no problem asking these questions to these witnesses. What's wrong with this picture? The jury isn't stupid.

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
What in the world could ICA be possibly writing regarding this testimony? That is not where I put her!

Chilly Willy
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
She may have choroformed it.
Snakes flee from Casey Anthony.

Jada85
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
WHAT is ICA doing????

I was thinking the same thing! If only we had the vantage point of that officer behind her hehe

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Parked "ABOUT' THIS WAY.

sandangel
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Casey is busy taking notes now. Wonder what's up with that?

chasing.halos
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Can you imagine how excited JB would be if a meter reader was also a chemist? :innocent:

kelian36
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
What IS ica writing? Is she doing a crossword puzzle, saduko, playing hang man?

artbuc
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Mr. Dean, did you take chemistry in high school?

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Mr Dean better be careful, they might ask him if he likes to steal dead bodies.

Jaboom97
06-28-2011, 03:33 PM
I think it looks like ICA is drawing or writing something...maybe she is doodling Casey Baez on her legalpad...

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
So it was Dean who suggested where they park. Good to know.

jharres
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
This is silly. Let these people alone and lets get on with it.

Hopefully the jury agrees with that sentiment! :)

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
Who the he!! cares what they said about all the media being there???????

animlzrule
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
I'm going to have to mute. I can't take another meter reader interrogation. :banghead:

MaryAnn
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
good witness

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
Does everyone in the world except me Baez and Cheney think Roy Kronk is completely honest?
He's not completely honest. It's just irrelevant. He didn't steal Caylee's body.

strawberry
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
Yikes! What was that closeup of JBs face?? :eek: Now I'm gonna scream like a little girl

TortillaChip
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
What??? JB wants more face time, because what could his partner say? He saw him take the remains???? Jeebus, gonna be just more inuendo and no facts.

Leila
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
I got interrupted and have been gone for about 10 - 15 minutes. When I left the computer, LDB was doing cross of RK. How did that turn out?

Hoping4Justice
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
CM probably wanted to make sure that RK left without speaking to Dean........They wouldn't want to have any coaching of witnesses in this trial, would they......:banghead:

rose222
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
oh wow!

monique
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
Does everyone in the world except me Baez and Cheney think Roy Kronk is completely honest?

Pretty much!

marie-chantal
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
WHAT is ICA doing????

It looks like she's doing a word search, or filling in dots on a scantron sheet. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's not something she's supposed to be doing. I'm glad the deputy is behind her. She should not have access to text messaging, or the internet IMO. I thought that I had seen her texting in previous court sessions.:banghead:

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
WHAT is ICA doing????

Drafting her last will and testament?

katydid23
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
Baez has got to be desperate now. What can he possibly get from Kronks coworker that they couldn't get from Kronk himself?

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:34 PM
JA is not in his chair

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Dean: At the time, told Kronk he felt Caylee's body might be in swamp. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:34 PM

Dean said he thought the body might be in the swampy area.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 2:34 PM

Dean said they needed a rest so they found a little bit of shade along Suburban Drive. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:34 PM

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
So this is the DT case....great swelling words in the opening statement and.....???

Softail
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Yikes! What was that closeup of JBs face?? :eek: Now I'm gonna scream like a little girl

:laughcry: :silly:

barbtries
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
defense calls david dean

this is a new name to me?
tia

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
ICA is furiously scribbling...scribbling...her next evil plan.

Now that she can't text, she is back to handwriting..

.....funny how a guard or two can just destroy your day.

joedotnet
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Does everyone in the world except me Baez and Cheney think Roy Kronk is completely honest?

I think it may just be you. :) I'm pretty sure they know they are "using" him for their client's convenience. :banghead:

LaMer
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Not only did RK survive being on the stand ~ he stood tall in my eyes.

Here too! He was very concise and certainly didn't waver. Seems a like a nice guy! Guess CM didn't do so well!:D He tried but when there isn't anything there isn't anything.

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
So if Kronk was going to hide the body there and didn't want it found yet why would he tell his co-workers it was there in August?

kar
06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
why is JB making him stand while he questions him?

RR0004
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
Probably to make an appology! :-)
Or to make sure that RK doesn't say anything to Dean?

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
I just go crazy thinking she could have been found in under 60 days vs. 6 months...:( So many things that happened between Aug 11-Dec 10 may never have happened, with the A's. Casey getting out on bond, etc...

monique
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
He forgot the part where he "screamed like a little girl". Can't possibly be honest.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
so glad that Mock Juror is still tuned in after that punishment

MissSallyAnnie
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
I wonder if the defense will haul in the snake to testify? I heard the snake is on his way to the courtroom!

Enola
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
So this is the guy that the DT want to get the kick in on RK - because they didn't manage to...

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
Bang, bang, bang, OUCH! Sounds of me banging my head on my desk.

reeseeva
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
Annnnnd! Sounds like the "buzzer when you get an answer wrong" BEYOND ANNOYING!

mitzi
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
And this testimony proves.....what? for the defense?

GiantPickle
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
witness should be allowed to sit back down

CN2Souls
06-28-2011, 03:36 PM
I don't think she's been txting, that I've seen.

I think she's being guarded so closely because of her burst of fury on Friday. It was truly a sight to behold. Her true nature really came out, IMO.




As far as deputy behind ICA,
I do not know about Orange county Florida,

However, in this county, any person who has had their competence question and evaluated

The courts then put in an order to have the defendant flanked, aka, followed and accompanied everywhere in the courtroom.

Just a precaution for all parties involved and everyone in the courtroom.
JMO

Not to Quote myself,

I also noticed the Deputy came closer to her when LDB was up and the JB asked her something and ICA snapped back at him.

Kat
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
this is a new name to me?
tia

He is a meter reader. He was one of the three that RK mentioned he met up with on suburban drive to take a break, that's when they saw the snake.

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Here we go with JB's poorly formed questions, this is going to take forever, here....

Scamperoo
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Why is everyone on here jumping to that? I don't recall the DT saying that GA gave Caylee to RK. The RK deal is jus tthis - he moved the body, had control of the body from aug to dec. no way to know if he changed the crime scene therefore can't depend on the evidence.

By august there were only scattered bones how would you suggest he gathered them for redistribution?

ahoyhoy
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
WHY are they BOTHERING this nice meter reader?
Why does he seem like he's trying to intimidate him. I think it's mean.

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Good grief. JB is bolstering Kronk's testimony. He said after the snake it was all the snake.

luckyme
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=whiteangora;6785950]Drafting her last will and testament?[/QUOT

Or her last meal! Maybe chili and velveeta?

BigFatMommyDog
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
why is JB making him stand while he questions him?

because he's a <modsnip>

Ada
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
I used to live in Clearwater and we had them in our yard. And here in NC we have Copperheads. I hate snakes.

Got bad news for you. We've got cotton mouths and rattlesnakes in NC too. :crazy:

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
He's not completely honest. It's just irrelevant. He didn't steal Caylee's body.

I always think someone who has been accused by the Defense of doing terrible things is going to be somewhat reserved and guarded when answering the Defense's questions.

I sure would be and would not be at all surprised if other people would behave like that also!

chelle70
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
JB thinks he get the "one up" when the pros. objects to him and he says "I just withdraw the question". He does this every time!!!!!!!!!

SurfieTX
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
LDB muttered something under her breath a minute ago.

21merc7
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Wonder if the chloroform killed the rattlesnake?

Any chemists here that are snake specialists?

sandangel
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Sometimes Casey looks like she is just doodling but she is actually paying attention now, and appears to really be taking notes.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Dean said he didn't think #roykronk was serious about skull because he didn't keep pushing the matter. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:36 PM

Dean said he told Kronk he felt #CayleeAnthony 's body might be in the swamp. #CaseyAnthony #roykronk -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:35 PM

mimmy03
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Jose can't form a question to save his life.

Chiquita71
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
JB: the snake? Jose is trying to get this man to say that Roy was trying to get them to see the "skull." The witness thought it was a joke and that Roy was joking because he didn't keep on asking.

Jose imho sux.

:tyou: Linda for objecting. :luv: LDB :yes:

Quiche
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Sustained, sustained, sustained, sustained-- yep, JB is up.

zippitydoda
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Drafting her last will and testament?

I think the only thing she can bequest is an 68K tax bill...

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
I think it may just be you. :) I'm pretty sure they know they are "using" him for their client's convenience. :banghead:
ITA, no one is completely honest. However, I think Kronk is innocent of the vile crap the defense accused him of.

1tasha
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Did anyone get a pic of her mom?? I just want to know more more more about these brilliant people.


OMG - not the easel again...

LOL sums everything up nicely.

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Dean is agreeing pretty much so far with what Kronk said, but JB is trying to make it appear sinister. IMO

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
I agree he should sit down, unfair to stand in his face asking these questions so close to the witness.

Chilly Willy
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Does everyone in the world except me Baez and Cheney think Roy Kronk is completely honest?

I don't think he's been completely honest. I think he embellished his story for the media at first, never expecting he'd someday have to contradict himself in court. I also think he was much more aware and concerned about collecting the reward than what he tried to portray today. But that does not mean he found and re-hid the body. It doesn't change Casey's guilt.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Baez asks Dean if he discussed case at office. Dean: yes. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:36 PM

#CaseyAnthony is drawing/writing something on a legal pad.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:36 PM

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Oakley
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
So RK and co were distracted by the snake. And all this proves what?

(Oh BTW, JB, nice job pointing out to the jury that your client threw her baby girl away in a swamp with snakes.

TiaM
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
CM probably wanted to make sure that RK left without speaking to Dean........They wouldn't want to have any coaching of witnesses in this trial, would they......:banghead:

Could be, because he REALLY moved to get out there - I was afraid he would fall and break a hip. I do believe I read somewhere that there are deputies in the hall also, but I don't know exactly what or how strict the rules are about anyone speaking to each other out there. I mean what else are they supposed to do?

Miss Anarchy
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
So we have established the fact that these meter readers think a dead rattle snake is cool. Great use of our money DT.

MEM2010
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
yep because the first thing you do when you want reward money for finding a body is to tell all your friends exactly where you think it is?

wouldn't that mean they could find it first?:waitasec:

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Why is the witness out of the stand for these questions?

Trident
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Snakes flee from Casey Anthony.

Remember the dead snake? The boots in the car?

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Dean: After seeing skull, Kronk said nothing about it, just about snake. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:37 PM

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
He didn’t tell therefor he didn’t call???? we know he called

PennyC
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Can someone tell me what this is suppose to prove questioning another meter reader?

Never4GetCaylee
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
What is with JB and that stupid easel??? It's so weird to me how he has witnesses come off the stand to look at it.

Donjeta
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
I don't tell my boss anything if I can help it. What does this prove?

ljs713
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Why dosen't he let this man go sit at the stand. This is an odd way of questioning. Their tactics are getting shoddier by the day.

kitkit
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Why is this guy standing?

tragco
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Why is the witness being questioned outside the witness box?

Quiche
06-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Oh, he's trying to mimic LDB...

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
KC's thinking.....Whew glad I didn't see that snake.

driver
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Once again beating a dead horse.

I wish I had a dollar for every time JB either stops mid-sentence through a question and has to start over or finishes and says "Let me re-phrase that".

Bainbridge
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Are there any rules about Baez questioning this witness off the stand? He is no longer referring to the map. IMO it is kind of intimidating for the witness.

katydid23
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
So far this Dean guy is corroborating exactly what Kronk said. How is this going to help Casey?

And so what, he didn't tell his supervisor about calling 911 or reporting the skull. Why would he?

Emma Peel
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
did dean say that the first thing he did was point to the swamp and say that the missing Caylee could be in the swamp so Roy walked down by there and took a leak and said hey, I think there might be a skull down here? And so dean walked down there and played with the snake instead.

did he just say that? or did I not hear that right?

Kat
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
leading the witness---sustained. Sigh.

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
didn't they ever talk to these witnesses before bringing them in?

Novice Seeker
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
and why does this witness have to stand next to the easel to be questioned about conversations he may have had with RK?

kelian36
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Is this backfiring on JB? lol

Mountain_Kat
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Big deal...maybe RK didn't think he had a reason to tell his co-workers. Or maybe he didn't want to share any reward money. Who gives a flip?

jane the dood
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
I wonder if the defense will haul in the snake to testify? I heard the snake is on his way to the courtroom!

Oh, hon, don't get me started! *sits on hands...laughing*

pipkins
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
JB - " did he tell you that he had METTED a deputy out there"

ljwf22
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Why are they still standing? The DT sure is "low-tech"

Camille
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
JB is just hammering it in that RK didn't want to draw a lot of attention to himself even though he WAS reporting it to the police and he WAS trying to get LE to take him seriuosly.

Brattigirle
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
What I have learned from the defense is that RK must of placed Caylee in the woods around August 11th ...and then when he couldn't get anyone to take notice he scooped her up held her until around December 11th and tryed again???? Is that about right?

PhillygirlToo
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Oh, boy, JM and JB are both looking like fools as thesw guys just deny every question they ask! It's getting PAINFUL!

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Burdick objects to Baez's line of questions "Leading the witness." Perry sustains obj. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:39 PM

imawitch
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Got bad news for you. We've got cotton mouths and rattlesnakes in NC too. :crazy:

we sure have them in Texas lol

I think JB is questioning this wittness, hoping to some how make roy K look bad, but I dont think it will work

Nali87
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
To mute or not to mute?

sandangel
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Why does it matter if Kronk told his co-worker if he called 911? I don't understand why JB is asking him so many questions about that.

ohiogirl
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Why is everyone on here jumping to that? I don't recall the DT saying that GA gave Caylee to RK. The RK deal is jus tthis - he moved the body, had control of the body from aug to dec. no way to know if he changed the crime scene therefore can't depend on the evidence.

Where did he get it?

wannabedetective
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
I think the only thing she can bequest is an 68K tax bill...

I've heard that before. How does one accumulate such a large tax bill if they aren't really working?

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Gosh Jose - maybe Roy didn't like this guy and didn't tell him about what Roy Kronk considered an embarrassing and annoying situation with an OC cop?

Maybe this guy just isn't someone Roy would confide in....

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
I always think someone who has been accused by the Defense of doing terrible things is going to be somewhat reserved and guarded when answering the Defense's questions.

I sure would be and would not be at all surprised if other people would behave like that also!
Pretty much this.

Nicely put! IMO, being completely honest with this defense team is a catastrophic mistake.

wenwe4
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
David Dean w/JB - former co-worker of RK - discuss A home and media ...@ the time they pulled up he said he felt the little girls body might be in the swamp right there....RK went into woods to use restroom....looking up and down in bushes...he said he saw a skull....a skull? gotta go look @ it...I was heading that way and almost stepped on a dead rattlesnake...find snake more intersting than skull...at the time I did...after I picked up snake and put in back of truck...he left and got back in the truck...I figured he wasn't serious because he didn't say any more...if you are serious you would keep talk about it...
common discussion @ work about this case...yes sir...object-sustain....discuss this case every day...most high profile missing person in whole country @ the time..as far as you knew....sustained X3

after see skull nothing more said..everything turned on snake @ the time...no more mention to David Darn or chris

next day saw RK - didn't say he called 911 or called crime line 4 times about the skull mentioned on Suburban drive during months of Sept/Oct - never told that he took a deputy to the area...no object-sustain

JB - DD did RK ever say anything in entire 4 months he had ever seen anything off Suburban drive object-sustain...anything RK and the skull in the next four months...next time heard anymore about the skull until 12/11/08

Oakley
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Where is it written that Mr Kronk was required to tell his co-worker about finding Caylee's skull? I wouldn't be blabbing if I found a dead child's remains. At this point, I don't know if I would even report it. <sad>

Chiquita71
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
They don't want to get to Jesse today. ICA didn't think he would be on the stand today. She likes the idea of him waiting out in the hallway for her. She wants revenge on Jesse because he DARED to love and care about her. ICA IMHO is one of THE most dangerous creatures humanity has ever produced. ICA wants to be able to gussy herself up before Jesse takes the stand. Jose has been instructed to stall...IMHO. But I don't think they got much to ask this man. So much of it is hearsay. IMHO.

:twocents:

Ninsi
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Does anyone else think it's weird the way Casey writes with two fingers around the pen instead of one?

chasing.halos
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
http://humbleopinion.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/cayleeprinleah.jpg?w=300&h=286

JBounds
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
They should put meter reader day on the calender after this.

tragco
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
THANK YOU, HHJP. Tells the witness he can return to his seat.

rose222
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
How does this help the defense?

marie-chantal
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
This is accomplishing nothing other than wasting everyone's time, IMO. Wrap it up, Baez!

sappysoul
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
If this jury doesn't see how Baez ignores the rules of questioning again and again then there is no hope for our legal process.

luckyme
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Got bad news for you. We've got cotton mouths and rattlesnakes in NC too. :crazy:


Please dont say that! Ive only seen cooperheads uck! I live by woods!

allycat1208
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Did Dean say that he said to RK that this would be a good place to put the body right before RK comes across the skull?

Peliman
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Oh please JB, you're so annoying. He called 911, he didn't call mickey mouse, goofy or Cinderella either. What's your point?

Wholehearted
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Baez needs to mix it up a bit.

He almost always starts every sentence with "Aaannnnddd...." and after the witness answers, he says "Mmkay...."

His other favorite is "Nowwwww,"

I swear, he elongates the words because he's searching for a way to phrase his question.

smartsass
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
I have to disagree with the idea that the DT is just doing their job. This man (RK) did one thing~he found little Caylee's remains. That's it. He has not made any accusations against a single person in this case including the defendant. Why is he being treated as if he has and would need to be discredited? This really goes way beyond any DT tactic. Unnecessary and is going to backfire on them.

You know, you're right. Wouldn't it seem most moms would be forever grateful to him? I wonder if CA & GA are especially grateful to him bc he made it possible for them to give Caylee a proper burial and a start on the road to closure. Even though they don't know exactly what happened to Caylee, they at least know if she's gone from this earth or still on it somewhere.

bonjoviblonde
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
I find it hilarious how JB practically BEGS his witnesses to give him the answer he so desperately wants. :floorlaugh:

rice09
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Let's get this straight. RK is involved somehow simply because he called 911 a few times. How many times did ICA call 911 in the entire 31 days that she misplaced her child, that her child drowned, that she was kidnapped or that God himself swooped down and took her?! ZEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOOO! Hello JB....zero. Why did ICA never call about her missing daughter?

Talina
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Oh dear. I just got back to computer and see that a witness is standing there answering questions and HHJP asks if the witness could sit back down. How long had he been standing there? Poor guy.

suzihawk
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
OMG. Really. Another meter reader? Oh, my if this man says anything that makes it sound like Roy Kronk did anything wrong...this is carp. Disgusting. Wrong. Sick. I now understand why people stand outside waiting to hear an inmate has been put to death. :yes:

:twocents:
:twocents:

I now understand why people will turn the other way and not get involved rather than being a good samaritan and doing the right thing. Sad, but true.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:40 PM
HHJP allows the witness to sit down!!!!

Softail
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
CJBP interrupts to ask if he is done with the picture, so that the witness can sit down. They are, and the witness can sit down.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Dean says #roykronk never talked about skull at work- everyone looked at snake photo. Kronk never told him he called authorities 4 times.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:40 PM

Kentjbkent
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
I am just getting here today but am DYING to know...

Did the defense make any headway with Kronk....or did SA make Baez look foolish in his theory?

Tulessa
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
I don't know but my guess is that she has been maybe texting, reading something, writing something(under the table), etc. that she isn't supposed to be doing. With a deputy right behind her, it would make it harder for her to hide what she is doing.

Thank you for giving a sensible answer.

Liz
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
WHAT is ICA doing????

Drafting her last will and testament?

LOL! Good one, whiteangora! I nominate this "post of the day"!

RR0004
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Thank you, Judge Perry for telling the man to sit.

Soulmagent
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
He's not completely honest. It's just irrelevant. He didn't steal Caylee's body.

Well ,if he told dean and then never mentioned it again is it possible he thought that Dean would sneak back and look and try to get the reward?

If we needed a motive for it,after he tried to get LE people out there and they would not come.

joedotnet
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Are we sure Baez REALLY went to law school?

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
so far I have learned that JB cannot phrase a question...

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Now asking about December 11
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 2:40 PM

susan1122
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
I don't know but my guess is that she has been maybe texting, reading something, writing something(under the table), etc. that she isn't supposed to be doing. With a deputy right behind her, it would make it harder for her to hide what she is doing.

IMO, this is why ICA is being guarded so closely......this angry outburst. Thanks to other WSer's for posting this earlier!

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28362472/index.html

Beyond Belief
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
All this will be twisted in the DT's closing arguments, they are just setting it up.

Nali87
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
They didn't ask George a THING about Caylee supposedly drowning but yet wasted all day on ROY? You've got to be kidding me.

rose222
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Why isn't the defense also accusing Dean since he's the one that suggested that Caylee's remains might be in the swamp?

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Why don't they leave this guy alone....good grief..he seems scared. Unless he says RK got the body from GA....what's the point....

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
JB says the exception is excited utterance??? HAHA

concentric
06-28-2011, 03:41 PM
The judge had to intervene to "allow" the witness to sit down because JB wasn't doing it.

pjones
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
If all this is to establish that Kronk was somehow involved in either the murder, coverup, or at the very least that he found and moved the body, then moved it again, why did CM not just come out and ask him, while he was on the stand, "Did you kill the girl/move the body/hide it..."?

TiaM
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
KC's thinking.....Whew glad I didn't see that snake.

Maybe she could have shot it with the imagi-bow/arrow. :rolleyes:

cluciano63
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
OT but I am stunned that all of these Fla. men are so enamored with a dead snake...regardless of the fact that a skull has possibly been found, it still amazes me...and considering they were talking about the chance that Caylee was out there in the swamp...

monique
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
Love LDB but I'm really missing JA today.

Florida Native
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
I don't think he's been completely honest. I think he embellished his story for the media at first, never expecting he'd someday have to contradict himself in court. I also think he was much more aware and concerned about collecting the reward than what he tried to portray today. But that does not mean he found and re-hid the body. It doesn't change Casey's guilt.

BBM. I couldn't agree more.

Donjeta
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
Well it would be a sad day if finding a toddler's skull in the woods was just another day in the park. Of course it's a startling event.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
again....if this had any place to go it would be worth the ride.....


but.........

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
Thank you for giving a sensible answer.

I think it could be connected to her being tested for competency.

kelian36
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
Sustained...............:floorlaugh:

Softail
06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
I am just getting here today but am DYING to know...

Did the defense make any headway with Kronk....or did SA make Baez look foolish in his theory?

:yes:

The assassination attempt of Mr. Kronk failed.

Leila
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
This line of questioning from JB doesn't mean anything. It appears that RK doesn't share everything he does with his co-workers and there's nothing suspicious in doing that.

How does this prove or disprove what happened to Caylee?

Emma Peel
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
David Dean w/JB - former co-worker of RK - discuss A home and media ...@ the time they pulled up he said he felt the little girls body might be in the swamp right there....RK went into woods to use restroom....looking up and down in bushes...he said he saw a skull....a skull? gotta go look @ it...I was heading that way and almost stepped on a dead rattlesnake...find snake more intersting than skull...at the time I did...after I picked up snake and put in back of truck...he left and got back in the truck...I figured he wasn't serious because he didn't say any more...if you are serious you would keep talk about it...
common discussion @ work about this case...yes sir...object-sustain....discuss this case every day...most high profile missing person in whole country @ the time..as far as you knew....sustained X3

after see skull nothing more said..everything turned on snake @ the time...no more mention to David Darn or chris

next day saw RK - didn't say he called 911 or called crime line 4 times about the skull mentioned on Suburban drive during months of Sept/Oct - never told that he took a deputy to the area...no object-sustain

JB - DD did RK ever say anything in entire 4 months he had ever seen anything off Suburban drive object-sustain...anything RK and the skull in the next four months...next time heard anymore about the skull until 12/11/08







Okay, this is weird. That he says he felt at that moment the body might be in the swamp moments b/4 Kronk finds a skull and then he'd rather play with the snake.

Men. :rolleyes:

even still. it's weird to me.

Whisperer
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
Sometimes Casey looks like she is just doodling but she is actually paying attention now, and appears to really be taking notes.

She can't doodle now...her image is at stake..

Soulmagent
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
They didn't ask George a THING about Caylee supposedly drowning but yet wasted all day on ROY? You've got to be kidding me.

They already asked GA this, they cannot ask hm again.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
LOL! Good one, whiteangora! I nominate this "post of the day"!

The only thing KC has to bequeath is a mountain of IRS debt, and some beef jerky!

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
word games

HHJP must take over questioning

monique
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
I do not understand how any of this helps the defense theory.

GiantPickle
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
this has nothing to do with it at all !!!!!!!

Dr.Fessel
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
I am just getting here today but am DYING to know...

Did the defense make any headway with Kronk....or did SA make Baez look foolish in his theory?

Kronk was very straight forward and did an excellent job. Mason looked foolish and tried to introduce the theory a little but it was a major failure.

Etiana
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
Sustained!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nali87
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
Why isn't the defense also accusing Dean since he's the one that suggested that Caylee's remains might be in the swamp?

They've chosen their scapegoat. :maddening:

Kat
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
JB says the exception is excited utterance??? HAHA

and JB is arguing that was too.

chelle70
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
Is this backfiring on JB? lol

When doesn't it? :crazy:

Chiquita71
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
Oh, he's trying to mimic LDB...


Yes! That is exactly what I think too! Both Jose and CM have tried to mimic LDB and Jeff Ashton but what they don't understand is that LDB and JA have souls and personalities and they have what is true and right on their side...

:cow:

SailorMoon
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
All I'm hearing is -- sustained, sustained, sustained, sustained, sustained, sustained, blah blah 3 prongs sustained, sustained, sustained, sustained.

Quiche
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
Normal tone, lol.

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:43 PM
normal tone of voice

D96s
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Oh Snap

Turnadot
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Well ,if he told dean and then never mentioned it again is it possible he thought that Dean would sneak back and look and try to get the reward?

If we needed a motive for it,after he tried to get LE people out there and they would not come.
Sure, but who cares?

He didn't steal Caylee's body, then hide it, which is what he's been accused of doing by the defense.

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Are we sure Baez REALLY went to law school?

I can't answer this for sure. I haven't opened a box of cracker jacks in many years.

BetteDavisEyes
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Normal tone of voice does not equal "excited utterance".

gibby207
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Wonder why DT didn't go after this David Dean dude....

Miss Anarchy
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
They didn't ask George a THING about Caylee supposedly drowning but yet wasted all day on ROY? You've got to be kidding me.

Crazy isn't it?

Hopeful One
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Is this backfiring on JB? lol

Well that's never happened before!

Shyla
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Out of ALL the witnessess for Prosecution and Defense the only shady characters are the Anthonys. Plain and simple!

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
so are we going to hear if this guy needs money for a car repair? It seems just as relevant or should I say irrelevant

strawberry
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
The problem for the DT (well one of them) is none of their own witnesses have any desire to cooperate with them more than necessary...except the As.

GiantPickle
06-28-2011, 03:44 PM
they were given an opportunity to see what he thought was a skull but declined

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
Look at how beautiful LDB is.........Classy!


17285

JustMeDeb
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
Will the dead snake's family be called next?

mysticrose
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
If we have any more moments it will be Halloween ..... :(

Emma Peel
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
I told you she was in there.

(That's why he brought home the rattler instead of the skull on Aug 11?)

NavySubMom
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
All this will be twisted in the DT's closing arguments, they are just setting it up.

But they are assuming the Jury has no Common Sense, but I believe they do, and will not swallow this nonsense. IMO,

Kat
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
Off topic but I find this witnesses voice very soothing. He reminds me of the people in my life from where I grew up (his accent). :)

Girlrilla
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
They autopsied the snake?

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
Yeah. Not sure where he went. “@Michelle_Wooten: @JimLichtenstein Has Ashton left court?”
by jimlichtenstein via twitter at 2:44 PM

Baez: What did you say to Kronk when call came in. Dean: I told you she was in there. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:44 PM

First transferred divisions, then terminated- I believe performance issues. “@sacteachus: why did roy kronk stop working as a meter reader?”
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:44 PM

Perry asks Dean to describe state of voice when Kronk called. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:43 PM

Dean says the next time he ever heard anything about skull was over radio in Dec 2008. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:43 PM

~PrinceSSa~
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
The SNAKE had an autopsy done????

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
snake autopsy

mitzi
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
didn't they ever talk to these witnesses before bringing them in?

Probably, but it's all the DT has.

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
I am just getting here today but am DYING to know...

Did the defense make any headway with Kronk....or did SA make Baez look foolish in his theory?

No and Yes. Mason did the questioning - brutal - he went on and on. Kronk remained calm and held his own. DT gained nothing,

Softail
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
:lol: He kept the snake, put it in his freezer. JB asks if it was given an autopsy!

:eek:

jrb0124
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
Does everyone in the world except me Baez and Cheney think Roy Kronk is completely honest?

He's definitely hiding things - not sure how crucial those "things" are to the Defense, but its obvious he has been less than truthful - even caught contradicting himself several times already.

He picked up the bag, shook it three times, noticed the skull at his feet. Then there was the "someone told me it was the same bag". Those two things combined with his evasiveness in recalling certain issues stand out to me through all of this; and I'm sure the jury as well.

kelian36
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
They already asked GA this, they cannot ask hm again.

Wrong hon. A witness can be called back.

jane the dood
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
http://humbleopinion.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/cayleeprinleah.jpg?w=300&h=286

Oh, such a darling baby!...Thanks for the reminder of why we are here.

Searchfortruth
06-28-2011, 03:45 PM
What, you mean they didn't give this snake an autopsy ? I am shocked !

pinkflamingo
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
LDB is sooooo beautiful!

allycat1208
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Why did Dean keep the snake?

pharmchick
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
HHJBP is a bastion of patience... Do you wonder if after trials like this he needs to go out and hit something hard with a sledgehammer? I would!

Has JB gotten through any of his questioning this entire trial without at least 20 sustained objections? ARGHHHH.

This trial is surely showing me the difference between a good lawyer and maybe one that it would be a less good idea to hire... MOO.

artbuc
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Oh-oh. Dr. Spitz was not allowed to witness the snake's autopsy!!

rosepetal1065
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Moses and his....sandals......

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Dean said I told you she was there

defense goes down in flames

rose222
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
YAY. His idea!!!!!!!!!!!

whiteangora
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
I'm sorry, but this is all so ridiculous. Let's move on, lock up the entire Anthony family and call it a day.

sleutherontheside
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Ummmmmm snakes get a necropsy not an autopsy.

Dr.Fessel
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
They do not do autopsy on animals.

Chiquita71
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Jose is starting the "jedi mind tricks"...

JB: And you did not see...and you did not...and you do not know...and it is fair to say you will say what I want you to say...

Jose is bringing up the snake, how this witness put it in the freezer and how LE gave it an autopsy. Jose is trying to trip up the witness. He got the witness to say 25 feet as he flipped violently some papers...then he said, "no more" like he accomplished anything.

:cow:

imawitch
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Casey wants salmon patties, "cookies in prime condition" and a big bottle of classic coke for her last meal.

aww heck to the no, Im making salmon patties for dinner lol
dang it, lol

I love LDB so classy and spot on jmo

The Farm
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
I am home home home from work and have animals to do but I had to get on here!

I see the guards/sherrifs/police are now right behind casey and she is not liking it at all.
I had said something about that in another thread how she just kind of has her own way back there. First time I havd ever seen that and it is good to see her flanked.
Ok,,,have to catch up,,,I heard about thae rattlesnake blah blah!

PilotswifePA
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Necropsy, JB...duh!

QueenD
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
So we ask about snake and autopsy and ask how far did RC go into woods all in same subject. HOW CRAZY

JBounds
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
omg today has been exhausting with this testimony that has gone nowhere. It is apparent the DT won't get anyone to believe what they're trying to get out of them. Which is nothing.

TraceyLeigh
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
DAYUUUUMM!!! It was HIS suggestion~~~ smackdown~~~

Girlrilla
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Casey wants salmon patties, "cookies in prime condition" and a big bottle of classic coke for her last meal.

Don't forget the velveeta.

rose222
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Hahaha. B-r-u-t-a-l!

anb
06-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Wow...LDB is so impressive. She just NAILED it!!

symbolic
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Gosh.. the DT's witnesses and the questions asked them today - unreal!?!.. It honestly looks like the DT never thought that the trial would get this far... like they were REALLY counting on their motions for mistrial to work... Or their expert witnesses to really "gut" the state's case

Etiana
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Snake in the freezer - did the snake have an autopsy????? :banghead:

mimmy03
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
the co-worker witness is more helpful to the prosecution than the defense. verifies kronks testimony and apparently it was the co-workers idea that the body could be in there.

Jstc4caylee
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
JB is acting like a whipped pup.....very telling. moo

fifteen89
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
I do not understand how any of this helps the defense theory.

Hope Vinnie remembers this when he gets back on the air.

liltexans
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Dean said on Aug 11, 2008 he told #roykronk he thought #Caylee was in swamp area. He tells LDB he had nothing to do w/ her body being there
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:46 PM

Dean: Kept dead snake in freezer. Deputies performed an necropsy, he said. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:46 PM

LDB now on cross. Points out that it was Dean's idea that led Kronk to look in the woods.
by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 2:46 PM

Dean says #roykronk was talking in a normal voice. Law enforcement collected snake from him. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 2:45 PM

Baez asks Dean if anyone else saw the skull. Dean: No. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 2:44 PM

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
If he kept the snake in his freezer is he a suspect of moving Caylee

Emma Peel
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
oh my.

Linda thinks it's weird too.

Mr. Dean was all over the case. He knew what Casey's mom said about the woods.

Reality Orlando
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Score State! Not Roy's idea body might be there. Game over.

monique
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Why did Dean keep the snake?

Boys and their toys. :floorlaugh:

pipkins
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
BA BA BOOM

LDB does it again - witness tells RK that thats prob the place where Caylee is - so it was this guys idea it was there and not roys

Camille
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Oh! Got in that Casey had told her Mom that Caylee was close to home.

christee
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
OMG, somebody give Mr. Dean a pat on the back!

logicalgirl
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
LDB - went you said to Roy on Dec 13th I told you she (Caylee) was in there, it wasn't because you had anything to do with putting the body there was it???

LOL, LOL - LDB is making fun of the Defense!

gibby207
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Did Linda just pick up a drawl? lol

Stella5
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
It usually is a swamp! Keep driving it home that the area is usually wet Linda!

The Shoat
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
OT but I am stunned that all of these Fla. men are so enamored with a dead snake...regardless of the fact that a skull has possibly been found, it still amazes me...and considering they were talking about the chance that Caylee was out there in the swamp...

As a Floridian, I can tell you that a snake sighting always gets everyone's attention. As does a gator sighting.

Kat
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Isn't this the guy who froze the snake and YM went to get it from him?

pinkfly
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
This guy looks much more suspect than RK LOL