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beach
06-26-2011, 05:22 PM
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nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:26 PM
bumping up

Salem
06-29-2011, 01:30 PM
Is the new person sitting at the defense table sitting in for DS? I have not seen DS all morning.

Salem

Wise Old Owl
06-29-2011, 01:30 PM
Feed is up on WESH

Seems HHJP is arraigning the guy that yelled at him at lunch. His bail is set at $2500 and he wants to represent himself - his hearing was set for July 6th

We had video but no audio - looks like that is over now. Waiting for ICA to enter.

Softail
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
His bail is set at $2500. He says he wants to represent himself. He will have a hearing on July 6th. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

Tulessa
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
MOD MESSAGE - Defense is up ***REQUIRED READ*** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

MOD MESSAGE - Defense is up ***REQUIRED READ***

And! Posting for links.

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
Ordered a hearing on indirect contempt, $2500 bond

FaerieB
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
There was a lunatic screaming at Judge Perry as he walked to lunch. Saying he tampers with juries. The #VelvetHammer kept strolling. Smooth.

It is my opinion that the man being tried for contempt now is the guy noted above.

P.S. Had to try three different times to post this as whatever thread I was on was being closed. LOL!

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
what a day! :rocker:

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
17348

lajones81
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
@CFNews13CaseyCasey Anthony News13
His bail is set at $2500. He says he wants to represent himself. He will have a hearing on July 6th. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

@CFNews13CaseyCasey Anthony News13
The man was inside courthouse handing out pamphlets near jury room.

@KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV
Set bond for 2500 dollars for indirect contempt

Bruce at WFTV
He doesn't look very happy. This could be related to issues outside of court.

KBelichWFTV
A spectator apparently is being held on a contempt charge for doing something [via Twitter]

rose222
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
Are you all READY!?

MissDiva
06-29-2011, 01:32 PM
You don't mess with HHJP and get away with it!

ynotdivein
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
Bill Sheaffer saying indictment is for indirect contempt of court, so whatever protestor said was beyond the realm of freedom of speech.

justanother
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
Feed is up on WESH

Seems HHJP is arraigning the guy that yelled at him at lunch. His bail is set at $2500 and he wants to represent himself - his hearing was set for July 6th

We had video but no audio - looks like that is over now. Waiting for ICA to enter.

Any idea what he shouted? I'll bet he's feeling pretty silly right now. whatever it was, i hope it was worth it to him

mombomb
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
Some sort of event outside - possibly involving His Honor. Guy brought up to courtroom and apparently there has been a $2500 bond set for indirect contempt of court.

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
I can't believe the sound was out during that little event!!!!

HotButteredGrits
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
He was apparently handing out leaflets near where the jury enters/exits. That's not allowed via court order so he was brought in to face the judge.

cityslick
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
Was this on the feed? That's what I get for turning it off when I hear the word 'lunch'.

JustMeDeb
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
His bail is set at $2500. He says he wants to represent himself. He will have a hearing on July 6th. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

Can this trial get any weirder?

QueenD
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
Does it get any crazier??????

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
only in the ica trial.......

FaerieB
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
The man was inside courthouse handing out pamphlets near jury room.

Another interpretation. LOL!

olive
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
what feed are you watching? I'm switching b/w TruTV and HLN, and they are not showing this...

OK...I see you said WESH...do they have commercials on their online feed??

Salem
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
There was a lunatic screaming at Judge Perry as he walked to lunch. Saying he tampers with juries. The #VelvetHammer kept strolling. Smooth.

It is my opinion that the man being tried for contempt now is the guy noted above.

P.S. Had to try three different times to post this as whatever thread I was on was being closed. LOL!

The mods were playing "now you see it, now you don't" :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

logicalgirl
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
Well I am ready - it took me a moment to realize the sidebar was closed I was so many pages behind!

MEM2010
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
Ok..here we go. Lord please bring out the truth and justice for Caylee!

If I had BP medicine I'd be taking it right now

dog.gone.cute
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
Feed is up on WESH

Seems HHJP is arraigning the guy that yelled at him at lunch. His bail is set at $2500 and he wants to represent himself - his hearing was set for July 6th

We had video but no audio - looks like that is over now. Waiting for ICA to enter.


WOW ... Thanks for this info ... Just Unbelievable !!

You can't make this stuff up !!!

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
This group of people hands out leaflets on the steps. The Judge has ruled previously that they can not do it except for in a designated area. There is a thread here on them somewhere.

Bullwinkle
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
The man brought up before the judge appears to be this man:

http://www.google.com/search?q="Mark+Schmidter"

One of the search results refers to him as a "jury nullification outreach activist".

He can be seen at the beginning of this video:
YouTube - ‪Orange Cty CFL Local Coordinator Mark Schmidter @ Grayson Townhall‬‏

ami
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
Creepy and so true - from the Ted Bundy psych analysis during his trial:

Tanay (pscyh) : when I was asking him, Do you know that you are facing the death snetence? He could intellectually acknowledge it, but he sure didn't act like a man who was facing a death sentence. He was acting like a man who did not have a care in the world. I think I commented upon it in my report, that he was cheerful and acted more like a man who was not in jail but was onstage.



Nelson: Was that fact psychiatrically significant?



Tanay: Yes. It's consistent with the diagnosis that I have previously described, of someone who is typical psychopath or suffers from a personality disorder.

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
The man was inside courthouse handing out pamphlets near jury room.

Another interpretation. LOL!

nobody better mess with this jury!!!!:rocker:

BigFatMommyDog
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
Can this trial get any weirder?

oh gosh, don't say that out loud

Tulessa
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
There was a lunatic screaming at Judge Perry as he walked to lunch. Saying he tampers with juries. The #VelvetHammer kept strolling. Smooth.

It is my opinion that the man being tried for contempt now is the guy noted above.

P.S. Had to try three different times to post this as whatever thread I was on was being closed. LOL!

I read Velveeta hammer. :doh:

Nefriahaia
06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
He says he wants to represent himself. He will have a hearing on July 6th. #CaseyAnthony -jfell



Sounds like he'll have a fool for a client. :crazy:

OneLostGrl
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
MOD MESSAGE - Defense is up ***REQUIRED READ*** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140285)

MOD MESSAGE - Defense is up ***REQUIRED READ***

And! Posting for links.

Thanks so much for the links! You'd think I'd get smart and bookmark 'em.

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
By the way....the same media organization that filed motions about releasing venue location EARLY also represent that group. IIRC

mombomb
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
Can this trial get any weirder?

Haha, be careful what you say:banghead:

QueenD
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
I can't believe the sound was out during that little event!!!!

All I got on mine was sir what is your name, then the audio went out.

Did anyone else get it?

This guy must not know HHJP like we do.

MissDiva
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
You know, I'm going to remember this case FAR better than I remember the case for which I was a juror. This one is just CRAZY.

BigFatMommyDog
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
This group of people hands out leaflets on the steps. The Judge has reuled previously that they can not do it except for in a designated area. There is a thread here on them somewhere.

sigh

as i tried to point out 3 times at sidebar

Wise Old Owl
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
something about how HHJP "tampers with juries"


ETA: That was what is being reported as to wheat that guy said - sorry forgot to check the include quote box.

ohiogirl
06-29-2011, 01:36 PM
Good afternoon all. Intense morning, no? This needs to be over soon, imo. Poor GA.

wvjules
06-29-2011, 01:36 PM
I had a work thing this morning and missed GA's emotional testimony. Grrrr! Darned work getting in the way. Is he back on the stand or has he stepped down?

deelytful1
06-29-2011, 01:36 PM
what feed are you watching? I'm switching b/w TruTV and HLN, and they are not showing this...

OK...I see you said WESH...do they have commercials on their online feed??

No.. it's a great feed
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html

cityslick
06-29-2011, 01:36 PM
And you guys are questioning why a deputy stands over ICA like a hawk.

Emma Peel
06-29-2011, 01:36 PM
We still have Kronk & Cruz on deck?

watergirl
06-29-2011, 01:36 PM
The mods were playing "now you see it, now you don't" :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

okay you are having waaay too much fun with this... the perks of moderating haha

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:36 PM
JB had better have guzzled some Red Bull. He's going to need wings to fly out of the mess he made this morning.

Cherry Baby
06-29-2011, 01:37 PM
Just a thought...during my lunch I saw there's an article on the caffine in coffee preventing Alzheimers. Due to this and all of us following the trial from the early AM hours on, I've concluded that it's proof that we are the smartest posters on the internet!

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:37 PM
well I just hope River comes off as a nut and does not destroy what happened this morning if she testifies

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:37 PM
sigh

as i tried to point out 3 times at sidebar

I saw it, Mommy. Your efforts did not go unnoticed.

Leila
06-29-2011, 01:37 PM
17348

Could she be Sally Karioth - the grief counselor???

On second thought...............if she's sitting at the defense table, she can't be a witness. Another new attorney?

AMMich
06-29-2011, 01:37 PM
something about how HHJP "tampers with juries"

Seems more like he "pampers the juries". I have been impressed by the way he handles this jury. He is very respectful of the jury as a whole and of their time.

my2sense
06-29-2011, 01:37 PM
I read Velveeta hammer. :doh:

:floorlaugh: Thank you -- it feels good to laugh

the seeker
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
what the heck is wrong with wbdo feed?

Dr.Fessel
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
Judge Perry sure ripped off his robes when he went in chambers after that.

Bon
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
Are you all READY!?

I am so ready for this trial to be over, see her found guilty, get handcuffed and hauled away to jail. I need and want my life back! :)

MissDiva
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
JB had better have guzzled some Red Bull. He's going to need wings to fly out of the mess he made this morning.

The hawk'll get him if that happens.

theBritster
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
I wish they'd start already!! Sorry, I'm impatient. Only have 20 minutes left for lunch where I can watch with sound! :/

QueenD
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
So he is a jury nullification outreach activists?

What is that?

Nova24
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
Was the morning CA and GA once again? I thought they were starting with Kronk today.

FaerieB
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
Good lord....there WAS two of them:

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Different lunatic. “@Regina33511: I just read that the lunatic just had to appear in front of Perry. Bail $2500."

bobkealing bob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Man inside courthouse handing out handbills near first floor jury room sent to jail by Judge Perry. Not involving Anthony case

logicalgirl
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
I think our afternoon Trial Thread, besides including significant reminders re TOS should have included the insistence that all posters be required to fasten their seat belts for the Trial this afternoon.

lajones81
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
@CFNews13CaseyCasey Anthony News13
This man had nothing to do with #CaseyAnthony trial. Judge Perry needed to handle it though.

@KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV
Mark schmidter was apparently handing out pamphlets about jury duty outside of the public area.. Wouldn't leave... Got down on his knees

@CFNews13CaseyCasey Anthony News13
A man was inside the courthouse handing out pamphlets near jury room. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

@CFNews13CaseyCasey Anthony News13
The jury left courthouse for lunch. We will continue #CaseyAnthony trial after they return. -jfell

@KBelichWFTVKathi Belich, WFTV
He has a hearing with the Chief Judge on July 6 at 815 am

@JimLichtensteinJim Lichtenstein
Different lunatic. @Regina33511: I just read that the lunatic just had to appear in front of Perry. Bail $2500."

@bobkealingbob kealing
#CaseyAnthony Man inside courthouse handing out handbills near first floor jury room sent to jail by Judge Perry. Not involving Anthony case

Bainbridge
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
Ok, what the heck is going on. The clerk just went into the holding cell area? (Presumably asking, where the heck is ICA?)

gxm
06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
I had a work thing this morning and missed GA's emotional testimony. Grrrr! Darned work getting in the way. Is he back on the stand or has he stepped down?

I believe he's still on.

kantoo
06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
Schmidter arrested for protesting outside the designated free speech zones outside the courthouse. #CaseyAnthonyby oscaseyanthony via twitter at 12:38 PM

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
maybe JB will stretch GA on stand for rest of day

ami
06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
So did Baez run over to hand Schmidder his card to represent him? LOL!

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
Judge Perry sure ripped off his robes when he went in chambers after that.

He always does that when he transforms into Super Judge.

gitana1
06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
Guys, I only saw some of the testimony this morning - Cindy's and part of GA's and the clip where he broke down. I have read some of the comments here and it seems most feel the defense has continued to do badly. So why did Richard Hornsby tweet that he cannot predict the outcome at all? Did the defense show how bizarre the family is today?

darcedarce
06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
sigh

as i tried to point out 3 times at sidebar

The threads move fast. :dunno:

HotButteredGrits
06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
NBC producer is saying guy in front of Perry is different guy from the guy yelling at him on the street.

shelbar53
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Are we going to be discussing the gas can this afternoon? I guess 3 letter words are about all Baez understands, maybe 4 letters if you include duct tape.

tehcloser
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
I hope the leaflet peeps didn't get close to our jury................

fifteen89
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Sounds like he'll have a fool for a client. :crazy:

And a lawyer. His second choice will be JB.

lib's mom
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
something about how HHJP "tampers with juries"

If by tamper they mean sending The Desert Lady by, JP should feel free to tamper with me at anytime.

justanother
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Can anyone see whats going on yet? I just have a door on my screen.

Dr.Fessel
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
We still have Kronk & Cruz on deck? Oh Cruz should be good after her tirade on Levi's radio show last night.

Still got to hear about Kronks kidnapping charge to. LOL

greycoupon
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Oh I see. The cops kidnapped that gentleman. http://orlandocopwatch.com/fija-activist-mark-schmidter-kidnapped/

So it wasn't specific to this case but he just has issues with jury trials and look, lots of tv cameras! Bet he tried to give media his pamphlets.

technicalconfusion
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
So he is a jury nullification outreach activists?

What is that?


Sounds like a jury tampering group to me.

darcedarce
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Can anybody explain to me why this man would want to hand out the pamphlets that badly?

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Could she be Sally Karioth - the grief counselor???

Don't think so....I actually had a class she taught years and years ago. I remember her differently.......

Here is a photo of her.

17349

cyberborg
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
JB had better have guzzled some Red Bull. He's going to need wings to fly out of the mess he made this morning.

With respect, JB does need to check his ego at the door, his frustration at not getting results is hurting him in front of the Jury when he resorts to smart alec quips.

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Guys, I only saw some of the testimony this morning - Cindy's and part of GA's and the clip where he broke down. I have read some of the comments here and it seems most feel the defense has continued to do badly. So why did Richard Hornsby tweet that he cannot predict the outcome at all? Did the defense show how bizarre the family is today?

I just saw him on wesh and he started to say something about us knowing about the case for 3 years and the jury not being able to "get it" (I actually don't agree with him fwiw) what do you think Git?

kelian36
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
The hawk'll get him if that happens.

I hope he's followed by buzzards. :D

deelytful1
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
I am listening to GAs testimony (Missed it this morning) and I give him SO much Kudos for stressing over and over that he smelled human decomposition and that it was NOT the garbage!! *errr... I mean trash ;) Some powerful, powerful testimony!

fifteen89
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
I can't believe the sound was out during that little event!!!!

And yet LKB is given a mic.

watchinginky
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
Could she be Sally Karioth - the grief counselor???

I sure didn't see KC showing any grief to need a grief counselor.

darnudes
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
And you guys are questioning why a deputy stands over ICA like a hawk.

I'm not questioning it, I love it! They should have been there 31 days ago.

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
Are we going to be discussing the gas can this afternoon? I guess 3 letter words are about all Baez understands, maybe 4 letters if you include duct tape.

Well, depends on spelling of course, and with JB, all bets are off on that one.

Bainbridge
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
Are we going to be discussing the gas can this afternoon? I guess 3 letter words are about all Baez understands, maybe 4 letters if you include duct tape.

And one 7 letter word: "c-h-e-m-i-s-t"

faefrost
06-29-2011, 01:41 PM
So he is a jury nullification outreach activists?

What is that?

a nut! :crazy:

anb
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
Oh Cruz should be good after her tirade on Levi's radio show last night.

Still got to hear about Kronks kidnapping charge to. LOL

What happened with RC last night? Thanks!

BigFatMommyDog
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
The threads move fast. :dunno:

I know. I'm sorry. tough morning.

Thanks:tyou:

butwhatif?
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
17348

I asked that earlier , but the thread was moving so fast I might have missed an answer.
Guess they feel that it benefits ICA to have an older female def atty sitting next to her playing the mum role. Another psychological strategy maybe??

kelian36
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
Does anyone besides me think HHJP should have stopped JB from his attacks on GA? tia

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
Can anybody explain to me why this man would want to hand out the pamphlets that badly?

They do it all the time....they probably figured it would get more attention during this case. A perfect example of how NOT to get people to take you seriously.

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
confused and already behind....was this guy anti-Perry and trying to shut down this trial? was he pro-ICA?

Tulessa
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
I think our afternoon Trial Thread, besides including significant reminders re TOS should have included the insistence that all posters be required to fasten their seat belts for the Trial this afternoon.

DH has me strapped in good! :floorlaugh:

Boodles
06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
They need to stop showing video of George sobbing. Leave him alone, don't play it over and over again.

technicalconfusion
06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
Are we going to be discussing the gas can this afternoon? I guess 3 letter words are about all Baez understands, maybe 4 letters if you include duct tape.

Or chemists. Maybe a discussion about a duct taped chemist holding a gas can?

FaerieB
06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
Free speech zone violation prompts arrest. Guy sent to jail by Judge Perry named Mark Schmidter. Zones set aside prior to this trial.

ami
06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
I just saw him on wesh and he started to say something about us knowing about the case for 3 years and the jury not being able to "get it" (I actually don't agree with him fwiw) what do you think Git?

Can I just say that I only started to follow this case when the trial started, and I cannot imagine not 'getting it' based on what we've seen in court.

Chiquita71
06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
JB had better have guzzled some Red Bull. He's going to need wings to fly out of the mess he made this morning.

sleutherontheside :wave:

:tyou: That made one sound come out of my mouth, I just went: HA! Exactly like that...only one HA! but it was so big it hurt the back of my throat. :floorlaugh:

How about when George says, "there is something inside of me that I have to go through." I agree that George was a part of all the mess by not just coming forward...and I (to use another WSers words) "had no use for him" before. I am not excusing what he has done but it seems neither is he-and my personality is such that when a person is willing to take responsibility for their actions I have to give sympathy.

But! I understand why one wouldn't feel this way. I know the jury does not know about George's lies and even though Jose is trying to bring them in-George is admitting them and they are not lies to cover a accidental drowning and actions to "pin" it on Casey. IMHO.

:twocents:

MissJames
06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
What are we waiting for?

kaRN
06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
Oh Cruz should be good after her tirade on Levi's radio show last night.

Still got to hear about Kronks kidnapping charge to. LOL

I didn't think RK's alleged prior bad acts were allowed in?

watergirl
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
Oh Cruz should be good after her tirade on Levi's radio show last night.

Still got to hear about Kronks kidnapping charge to. LOL

I couldn't even listen to her. Ugh.

KariKae
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
Did the grief counselor actually meet with ICA? Or is she offering general grief testimony not related to the inmate?

BigFatMommyDog
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-03-02/news/os-orange-county-jury-leaflets-20110302_1_aclu-appeals-appeals-court-leaflets

~PrinceSSa~
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
whats the hold up??

watchinginky
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
:waiting:

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
Guys, I only saw some of the testimony this morning - Cindy's and part of GA's and the clip where he broke down. I have read some of the comments here and it seems most feel the defense has continued to do badly. So why did Richard Hornsby tweet that he cannot predict the outcome at all? Did the defense show how bizarre the family is today?

I read it as RHornsby backing off his prediction of only a lesser manslaughter charge and he now sees the possibility of a murder charge..JMO

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
Does anyone besides me think HHJP should have stopped JB from his attacks on GA? tia

Well, I wish he could, but it's a legal issue. I have complete faith in Judge Perry. If there were an issue of law, he would address it.

:cow:

darnudes
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
Baez looks like he was swigging Red Bull all morning, I hope he keeps doing it as he makes lots more mistakes when he does.

rose222
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
Free speech zone violation prompts arrest. Guy sent to jail by Judge Perry named Mark Schmidter. Zones set aside prior to this trial.

Good. He deserves it. I love Judge Perry!!

Leila
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
I am so ready for this trial to be over, see her found guilty, get handcuffed and hauled away to jail. I need and want my life back! :)

I am too..............it's way past time for this to end. I feel bad for the jurors having to sit through this..........all the delays, sidebars, and JB's nonsense.

Tipstaff
06-29-2011, 01:44 PM
I expect every webpage I read to have a thanks button.....there is going to be serious with drawl after this trial is over. Plus going to miss my WS friends.

logicalgirl
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Guys, I only saw some of the testimony this morning - Cindy's and part of GA's and the clip where he broke down. I have read some of the comments here and it seems most feel the defense has continued to do badly. So why did Richard Hornsby tweet that he cannot predict the outcome at all? Did the defense show how bizarre the family is today?

Because this morning gitana1 was so bad and so brutal, all done by JB, that everyone who was there had their minds blown out at the audacity of it all. No one has ever seen anything like it before.

Hey, you missed Ann Finnell's telephone motion when none of the Defense team showed up on time, ICA sat there by herself and HHJP went ahead with it anyhow? Kind of gave us all the flavor of how the rest of the day was going to go - or at least should have.

Beyond Belief
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Casey has no conscious. period.

Eidetic
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
I want the state to close with those jailhouse tapes and Fusian hot body contest pics side by side with a picture of Caylee's bones in the woods and play Roy Kronks panicked calls about what he thinks he found and the 911 call where Cindy said "There's something wrong! I found my daughters car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car! We are talking about a 3 year old little girl here! I need to find her!" followed by the video of a living Caylee on the day before she was killed with great grandpa humming You Are My Sunshine to her.

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
hope jury comes in soon

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Does anyone besides me think HHJP should have stopped JB from his attacks on GA? tia

I don't... while it was painful to watch it showed the jury how unemotional casey is and also showed a lot of other things that needed to be shown to them...

jmhoo:twocents:

((and I am so sorry GA had to endure that))

flgrandma
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Help! I've dropped down the rabbit hole and can't get out!

olive
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
I'm trying to pull up a feed on WESH, and have nothing on video but blank black screen. Anyone else???

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Baez looks like he was swigging Red Bull all morning, I hope he keeps doing it as he makes lots more mistakes when he does.

That's all we need. An over-caffeinated discussion on gas cans. Heavens forfend.

Marple
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Well, hopefully JB was soon explain how Kronk was able to get little Caylee's body, where he stowed her away, when he placed her in the woods, etc. I feel like I borrowed a library book and somebody ripped out four or five chapters!

butwhatif?
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Can this trial get any weirder?

Absolutely it can....and likely will.
Anyone else ever feel like they've been slipped some trippy drugs while watching this circus?

Dr.Fessel
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
So he is a jury nullification outreach activists?

What is that?

They believe you have a god given right that if you are sitting on a jury and you do not believe the law the person is charged with is right then you can vote innocent.

They focus a lot on the drug laws

They feel a judge should instruct each juror they have that right.

MEM2010
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
what's the hold up?

The Farm
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
All I can see on the screen is the top of Baez head!

kantoo
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
What are we waiting for?

....maybe the gas can went out for lunch and got tanked?

logicalgirl
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
Well, I'm glad Jose is going to get his wish - he is going to be famous!

Parts of his Defense on this trial will be played over and over again for years, as instruction to new lawyers on how not to defend your client...

HarvestMoon
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
what's the hold up?

Casey too ill for court to continue?

dog.gone.cute
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
Can anyone see whats going on yet? I just have a door on my screen.

Nothing on yet ... but I have it on WFTV because Bill Schaefer gives comments during breaks, sidebars ...

ami
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
wesh has "door" coverage, so we should start soon.

ahoyhoy
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
Is Kronk still going to be called today?
IMO, if Baez tries to bring up Kronk again after Ga, after this morning.....Listen carefully for a collective groan outside of camera range.

Tipstaff
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
What are we waiting for?

Protester got in the way HHJP and he just got arraigned in court fined $2500 and hearing is 7/6.

Dr.Fessel
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
I'm trying to pull up a feed on WESH, and have nothing on video but blank black screen. Anyone else???

Two doors here.

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx

ohiogirl
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
Why can't they EVER start on time?

FaerieB
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
I expect every webpage I read to have a thanks button.....there is going to be serious with drawl after this trial is over. Plus going to miss my WS friends.

Why do you feel you'll miss us? Many of us move case to case, or have several on the go at a time. We'll always be here. :crazy:

fifteen89
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
Where's Casey?

ETA: Maybe Casey was overcome with emotion during lunch.

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
I'm trying to pull up a feed on WESH, and have nothing on video but blank black screen. Anyone else???

olive, hit refresh...

QueenD
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
Google the man's name that is about to enter the jail there, under HHJP orders. Interesting person. Where do these people come from?

Quiche
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
I've got double shots of the doors on Wesh.

JustMeDeb
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
I still cannot wrap my mind around the fact that ICA showed no emotion other than anger and disgust, with GA's testimony.

Fascinating to watch a real live sociopath live and in person.

Marple
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
All I see is JB's hairline.

tehcloser
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
Maybe JP is asking her (ICA) about testifying?

Steven30CA
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
Casey too ill for court to continue?



oh come on..... its another delay tactic......

Hisimage
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
Real quick-- when GA got off the stand before lunch break, did CA greet him?

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
is grief counselor on today?

Softail
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
John Allen and Eric Edwards are going to be up this afternoon - Per WFTV

jstwondering
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?

kaRN
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Did the grief counselor actually meet with ICA? Or is she offering general grief testimony not related to the inmate?

I don't believe she did. Nor did she submit a report, nor was she included on the witness list by deadline.

Steven30CA
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Maybe JP is asking her about testifying?

He will ask her that in open court without jury.

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
All I can see on the screen is the top of Baez head!

Must resist urge...Must sit on hands...

fifteen89
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Why can't they EVER start on time?

And why do they start early when we try to catch a few extra minutes of sleep??

milliac
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Is anyone else not getting sound on WFTV audio feed. I heard the judge say this guys name and then nothing after that.

TotallyObsessed
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
You know, I really hope JA does closing. I like the emotions he puts into his arguments. I think they SA needs that aspect added into their case. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE LDB, but JA has an extra UMPF...

Ms.Heather
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Im thinking we are waiting for the jury to come back. I think they had a special lunch reservation :)

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?

that is the reporter's name :-)

GiantPickle
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
hehe I'm getting a chance to catch up so far....already on video 3 !

Dr.Fessel
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
....maybe the gas can went out for lunch and got tanked?

You do know according to Yuri when he was looking at the gas can in court the tape is missing on it.:floorlaugh:

waltzingmatilda
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Absolutely it can....and likely will.
Anyone else ever feel like they've been slipped some trippy drugs while watching this circus?

I've been on the cat nip toys:rocker:

justanother
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
wesh has "door" coverage, so we should start soon.
They've had door for almost 20 mins!!

FaerieB
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?

The tweeter's name is Jackie Fell.

Quiche
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
I hope GA is all right-- that's a lot of stress to endure over a few hours. mo

BigFatMommyDog
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
here we go

The Farm
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Casey too ill for court to continue?

Just what I was thinking butI believe court will go on without her? No more making off she is sick.

kaRN
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Real quick-- when GA got off the stand before lunch break, did CA greet him?

Yes and Ashley Banfield (?) tweeted he and CA were embraced outside of the courtroom as GA broke down.

logicalgirl
06-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Help! I've dropped down the rabbit hole and can't get out!

Oh dear, don't you know not to drink every drink a stranger hands you? Does this mean you got small like Alice?

Oh yeah, while you are there, don't go looking for the Mad Hatter - I think he's in the courtroom today.

technicalconfusion
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?

I believe that's the tweeting reporter. Several probably use that account.

realdeal
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
Why do you feel you'll miss us? Many of us move case to case, or have several on the go at a time. We'll always be here. :crazy:

I'm not Tipstaff, but speaking for myself, I will miss you because soon after this case is over, I must move on and disconnect, for my own mental health.

justanother
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
It must take forever to brush that hair. JB texting away as usual

QueenD
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?
Jill or Jennifer Fell is her name, the reporter.

pinkfairy
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
The jury was treated to a special lunch today which is running a bit overtime, that is why we are starting afternoon court late (via Vinnie Politan).

MEM2010
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
In comes the inmate

Nova24
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
I think JB will try and end on Sat so he will keep stretching everything out. He made himself a nice mess with GA today and CA even said she wasn't aware of any bedroom event with Casey before the remainder of the questions couldn't be answered. Bullying and being a wise guy with someone sobbing after the real loss of a grandchild isn't a smart way to go, JB. It looked clear that GA was a grieving grandfather today. He humanized George even more.

nursebeeme
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
wesh live blog saying jury is still not back ((re: late start))

BetteDavisEyes
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
Bill S. says that Casey will be fileted by the Prosecution and that LDB would likely do the cross.

Carnie
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
And there's ICA's sheriff pal.

watchinginky
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
KC's back in court.

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
LDB will do cross if ICA testifies

Bill S asked Linda if she was hoping for it and Linda smiled

Tipstaff
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
Because this morning gitana1 was so bad and so brutal, all done by JB, that everyone who was there had their minds blown out at the audacity of it all. No one has ever seen anything like it before.

Hey, you missed Ann Finnell's telephone motion when none of the Defense team showed up on time, ICA sat there by herself and HHJP went ahead with it anyhow? Kind of gave us all the flavor of how the rest of the day was going to go - or at least should have.

and to add just a bit ICA stood up in court by herself and said she agreed with AF in the motion. Nary another attorney to look at her, stop her, agree with her. Not 1.

Nova24
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
Real quick-- when GA got off the stand before lunch break, did CA greet him?

It was reported they were sobbing in the hallway in each other's arms.

barbtries
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
so are they going to just pick up from before with jb grilling ga?

mrsc72
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?
I know it's a reporter but I always see it as "Casey just fell" and it cracks me up. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

JustMeDeb
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
How in the world can JB call River Cruz after GA's testimony? Something tells me he will

The Farm
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
There she is and I would say she looks a little scared? No sound still though.

Quiche
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
KC looking none the worse for wear...

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
17350

Emma Peel
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
I don't know why this court coverage reminds me of the winter olympics.
sometimes... with talking heads yammering through the weather delays.

QueenD
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
wesh live blog saying jury is still not back ((re: late start))

I am sure they kept them back late to get that crazy guy out of there. MOO

MaraSleuth
06-29-2011, 01:51 PM
She got her "chicka bow wow" hip swing back - she looks pretty confident there...

gitana1
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
I just saw him on wesh and he started to say something about us knowing about the case for 3 years and the jury not being able to "get it" (I actually don't agree with him fwiw) what do you think Git?


I don't know. IMO, the defense has bombed repeatedly. But in the end, that might not matter.

I always thought casey would be found guilty of premeditated murder. But then we got juror number 4. That reduced my confidence. My confidence rose as I saw how badly the DT has bungled this case but I'm thinking about Stacey Barker's case. She smothered her baby out her in Calif., around the same time as casey murdered Caylee. Her trial ended around the time this one commenced. She also pretended there was a kidnapping but under questioning, she changed her story quickly, stating that the baby choked and she didn't know what to do.

Her family is almost as unusual as casey's.

She testified and did not come across well. She had attitude.

What worries me is that Emma's body was found quickly and there was a cause of death - suffocation. But the jury, who found her guilty of first degree murder, said they grappled a lot with premeditation. That concerns me because there may be more of a question here in some people's mind as to premeditation.

However, Florida juries can be harsh, so I'm not sure.

I have some concerns but we will see.

Tulessa
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
Am I the only one that wonders if GA planned to point that gun at ICA to make her talk?

kaRN
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
Just what I was thinking butI believe court will go on without her? No more making off she is sick.
She sick alright. One of the sickest people I've ever witnessed.
Her malady is incurable however so let the trial proceed. Put a video camera and one of her babysitting lawyers in her cell and we're good to go

RammerJammer
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
Jury enjoyed a special lunch....wonder how ICA liked her bag lunch from the jailhouse catering company!

FaerieB
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
JudgeJeanine Jeanine Pirro
Crystal holloway (aka river cruz) has arrived at cthse. She says she had affair w geo and that he said it was accident #caseyanthony

Last night, after it was reported that Ms. Holloway was furious about GA's testimony, Richard Hornsby tweeted that she will likely be in trouble for ignoring the rule of sequestration.

deelytful1
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
RHornsby on WESH saying there is zero chance the jury was exposed to the guy passing out pamphlets.
They don't know what the delay is about....

monique
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
:waiting:

jane the dood
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?

Jacqueline (sp?) Fell, reporter

This used to drive my spousal unit nuts....he kept saying, "J fell? Who's J and why did she fall?" lol...He really is NOT a techie. :D

Bullwinkle
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
wesh live blog saying jury is still not back ((re: late start))

On my feed I see the Dessert Lady appearing in front of the judge in handcuffs.

2door73chevy
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
My feed is showing ICA.

KenoshaKid
06-29-2011, 01:52 PM
The jury was treated to a special lunch today which is running a bit overtime, that is why we are starting afternoon court late (via Vinnie Politan).

they deserve every yummy bite!

technicalconfusion
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
I know it's a reporter but I always see it as "Casey just fell" and it cracks me up. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

At first I thought it was "fail" - which in this case has happened at eerily appropriate times.:floorlaugh:

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
I wonder if the judge has to talk to the jury and make sure they were not exposed to the pamphlet people

jstwondering
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
that is the reporter's name :-)

Oh, duh. I thought it was something like #winning, or meant something that I am just to uncool to get.

Thanks for helping an old lady out!:blushing:

The Farm
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
I think she might be starting to realize that she is a prisoner and not a movie star, especially with that guard over her now.

fifteen89
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
The jury was treated to a special lunch today which is running a bit overtime, that is why we are starting afternoon court late (via Vinnie Politan).

Well deserved. I hope they enjoyed it!

dog.gone.cute
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
You know, I really hope JA does closing. I like the emotions he puts into his arguments. I think they SA needs that aspect added into their case. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE LDB, but JA has an extra UMPF...

:rocker::rocker: I totally agree !! The Closing will need JA's PASSION !! :great:

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
Bill S. says that Casey will be fileted by the Prosecution and that LDB would likely do the cross.

ICA clearly loathes LDB. LDB knows it. She would push every button, hit the reset, and reformat ICA's drive. By the time she realized what was happening she'd be sitting on death row.

newsjunkie
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
There she is and I would say she looks a little scared? No sound still though.

We don't usually have sound until the judge is on the bench. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Amster
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
Who was the man that met GA as he was leaving the stand, earlier? I've seen him sitting with the Ants in court, before.

lonetraveler
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
You do know according to Yuri when he was looking at the gas can in court the tape is missing on it.:floorlaugh:

Really? We can only hope that someone is planning on slapping that piece of tape over Jose's mouth.:crazy:

Eidetic
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
We're almost there guys, just a little longer now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7QM6UEpIAw

Soulmagent
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
Well, I'm glad Jose is going to get his wish - he is going to be famous!

Parts of his Defense on this trial will be played over and over again for years, as instruction to new lawyers on how not to defend your client...

:floorlaugh:

AliVada
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?

A couple different reporters tweet for that station and so they sign the tweets ... she is the blonde who is often seated next to the today show reported Jim L.

Kathy in Texas

sleutherontheside
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
KC appears to be getting desperate......I expect she has told the DT DO WHATEVER iT TAKES!!!!

deelytful1
06-29-2011, 01:53 PM
Jury left courthouse for lunch. Late returning. “@stevemarie4ever: @bobkealing Why is court late?”

by bobkealing via twitter at 1:51 PM

Puzzler
06-29-2011, 01:54 PM
Am I the only one that wonders if GA planned to point that gun at ICA to make her talk?

No, you are not.

Novice Seeker
06-29-2011, 01:54 PM
Did the grief counselor actually meet with ICA? Or is she offering general grief testimony not related to the inmate?


No. Baez wants her to testify to hypothetical's

Nova24
06-29-2011, 01:54 PM
As River/Krystal did IV and clearly listened to testimony while under Witness Sequestion can the judge not allow her to testify? JB needs to get hold of his witnesses.

I also think having GA sob on stand and then bring in River is more helter skelter defense.

whiteangora
06-29-2011, 01:54 PM
You know, I really hope JA does closing. I like the emotions he puts into his arguments. I think they SA needs that aspect added into their case. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE LDB, but JA has an extra UMPF...

JA and LDB had suggested that they may both do closing arguments, Baez did not like that idea and complained to JP. I'm not sure what was decided.

smeck
06-29-2011, 01:54 PM
Jury enjoyed a special lunch....wonder how ICA liked her bag lunch from the jailhouse catering company!
Song running thru my head......my bologna has a first name etc etc

megsie
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
Who was the man that met GA as he was leaving the stand, earlier? I've seen him sitting with the Ants in court, before.

Pretty sure that was the Anthony's attorney.

AquaEyes
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
Ahh, the old "knuckle mumble."

tehcloser
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
No, you are not.

I think he got it because of the protesters, but that's just me.........

logicalgirl
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
JB trying to answer ICA's questions without moving his lips too much so he swings his side to side at the same time. Like he is trying to crack his neck. Then he notices the camera is on him and he stops. Now looking pensively at the ceiling.

GolferChick
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
MarkEiglarsh Mark Eiglarsh
I think Casey may be incompetent. After witnessing what Baez did with George, Casey still wanting him as her attorney is compelling proof

mombomb
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
wesh live blog saying jury is still not back ((re: late start))

They could take all afternoon and it still wouldn't make them even with all the times they have had to sit and wait for this trial

BigFatMommyDog
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
KC appears to be getting desperate......I expect she has told the DT DO WHATEVER iT TAKES!!!!

David Maus Toyota

GracieLu
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
while we are waiting, just wanted to say how much i LOVE HHJP, LDB, JA, and Mr. George.... omgosh, i wish they were my neighbors and best friends!

Wise Old Owl
06-29-2011, 01:55 PM
whats the hold up??
Jury had reservations for lunch outside the courthouse. Power lunch for them and they aren't back yet.

Novice Seeker
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
Who was the man that met GA as he was leaving the stand, earlier? I've seen him sitting with the Ants in court, before.



An attorney who works with Lippman. While he stood with George Lippman was at the back of the court room with Cindy.

Leila
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
I suspect the delay has to do with the issues and arrests in front of the courthouse during the lunch recess. It was stated that HHBP was arraigning one of the protestors.

ohiogirl
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
OT, I bet TL is thanking his lucky stars he got away from KC when he did. jmo

WillenFan21
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
MarkEiglarsh
I think Casey may be incompetent. After witnessing what Baez did with George, Casey still wanting him as her attorney is compelling proof.

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

Marple
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
Casey gives a fetching glance to someone and then laughs.

jane the dood
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
Does anyone know what "-jfell" means when someone twitters it after Casey's name?
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/bios/Jacqueline-Fell-Web.jpg
Jackie Fell :)

Sleuth5
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
KC appears to be getting desperate......I expect she has told the DT DO WHATEVER iT TAKES!!!!

Hate to say it, but if they were serious, they'd go after Cindy. GA is a waste of time for them.(May the Gods curse the gas cans forever!)

ami
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
ICA a'laugh, laugh, laughing away.

RobT
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
I don't know. IMO, the defense has bombed repeatedly. But in the end, that might not matter.

I always thought casey would be found guilty of premeditated murder. But then we got juror number 4. That reduced my confidence. My confidence rose as I saw how badly the DT has bungled this case but I'm thinking about Stacey Barker's case. She smothered her baby out her in Calif., around the same time as casey murdered Caylee. Her trial ended around the time this one commenced. She also pretended there was a kidnapping but under questioning, she changed her story quickly, stating that the baby choked and she didn't know what to do.

Her family is almost as unusual as casey's.

She testified and did not come across well. She had attitude.

What worries me is that Emma's body was found quickly and there was a cause of death - suffocation. But the jury, who found her guilty of first degree murder, said they grappled a lot with premeditation. That concerns me because there may be more of a question here in some people's mind as to premeditation.

However, Florida juries can be harsh, so I'm not sure.

I have some concerns but we will see.

It's been mentioned on IS and I'm not entirely sure I understand the legalese but to put it simply, apparently the SA do not have to prove premeditation for 1st degree murder in this case because of the secondary charge of child abuse. If the jury reaches the conclusion that it was murder, even not premeditated, and also reaches the conclusion of child abuse, that creates an aggravating factor and bumps up any murder charge to 1st degree.

deelytful1
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
MarkEiglarsh Mark Eiglarsh
I think Casey may be incompetent. After witnessing what Baez did with George, Casey still wanting him as her attorney is compelling proof

:floorlaugh: I Love mark Eiglarsh!!

Steely Dan
06-29-2011, 01:57 PM
Jury left courthouse for lunch. Late returning. @stevemarie4ever: @bobkealing Why is court late?
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:51 PM

JSR
06-29-2011, 01:57 PM
Wow Bill S just did the math and he seems to think ICA WILL take the stand.

3 witnesses outside courtroom, we have already heard 2, that leaves only one more, ICA.

MaraSleuth
06-29-2011, 01:57 PM
Who was the guy that hugged GA after he got off the stand?

pinkfly
06-29-2011, 01:57 PM
Bill S 2 witnesses so far today and 3 more in hall right now.....who could be number 6...ICA???

CM might have just been approximating when he said 1/2 dozen

anb
06-29-2011, 01:57 PM
Deep breaths and :grouphug: all around. Especially to Caylee's JoJo!