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shezcrafti
07-01-2011, 02:25 PM
I can't even begin to imagine how JB will cross this. What possible (intelligent) questions can he ask? It's obvious the SA has covered all their bases on this one.

katydid23
07-01-2011, 02:25 PM
JB has subpoenaed more records so I guess we will be treated to a sure-rebuttal

But that was just a fishing expedition and will not dispute this damaging testimony.

Baez wants Cindy's work records for 7/15, the day the car was picked up from the tow yard. We all klnow Cindy came and went from work yhat day so he wants to show that she signed in for a full work day probably. To try and prove that she comes and goes from work-despite signing in all day on her time card.

But this shows her working during these disputed hours because she was working on her work computer desk terminal on patient files.

downport
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
HOO - FAAA

busted

Cindy Anthony is now a proven liar in a court of law.

Shelby1
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#%21/bobkealing) bob kealing



Juror 10 leaned up in his chair and looked to the side in #CindyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23CindyAnthony) direction. 11 just did too. #CaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23CaseyAnthony)

rose222
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
Casey thinking " OMG, My mother? she's a waste, huge waste. What do I have to do to get my "family" to lie and cover for me? Is it really too much to ask them to lie to get me out of this mess? I mean Caylee was not even a person really, how old was she? 2 and a half or something? Geez" :(

oh_gal
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
Which is why I always make the IT dudes my first group of allies at a new job.

Very wise.
-- O.G. -- IT Guy's wife

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
If state shows Cindy Anthony was @ work the exact day/time chloroform search was done, that points finger at #caseyanthony...premeditation

by anthonycase via twitter at 1:25 PM

minazoe
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
they test for veracity

Reality Orlando
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
This guy is extremely sharp. He's on top of all this tech stuff even though it's not his area. Very believable..I doubt there is any doubt that CA was at her computer at work and not at home.

Beyond Belief
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
Mindboggling, isn't it.

MaryAnn
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
I think this family has learned the "hard way" that lying does not pay!!!

grepNYC
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
Camperlengo: Someone hit enter button on patient record at 2:27 p.m. on Mar. 21, 2008.

by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:22 PM

Camperlengo said it was under #CindyAnthony user ID. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:22 PM

JC says they can't exactly tell you what was done (identity of patient) but can show activity done by person who was logged in terminal.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:22 PM

We don't need to know what she did. Just that she was sitting at that box in the office, hitting the enter key.

I would love to see a timeline showing the chlorofirm searches with timestamps, versus the office activity. :)

ZsaZsa
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
This has got me thinking. I wonder if my job has seen me on here for the last few weeks.:waitasec:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

NavySubMom
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
I can see JB already "Is it possible, sir, for someone else to use a computer that has been logged into by somebody else?"

Grrrrrrr

Sure, but the jurors will see through this as CA trying to cover-up for ICA so she does not get the ultimate penalty. IMO. MOO. Is it possible, sure.... but if I was on the jury, I would totally get what CA's mistruthful testimony was all about. Totally. IMO. Common Sense. MOO.

monique
07-01-2011, 02:26 PM
My own feelings about Cindy have been ever-changing. I have felt something close to hatred, anger, sympathy and then now I have settled on pity.

She is a broken person who will be haunted by what she tried to pull. While I am glad her lies have helped accentuate her daughters premeditation.

She is pitiful and I do have pity.


I agree.

I still think CA lied about this back when she actually BELIEVED ICA was innocent and was trying to cover her butt so that the SA and LE would focus on someone else. Having done that, she had to support that testimony on the stand so as not to perjure herself.

I don't think she was trying to defend ICA during this trial...I believe she tried to stick as close to the truth as she could during testimony without perjuring herself.

JMHO

pinkfly
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
There is no way CA can explain her way out of this one. If JB does sure-rebuttal and calls her to the stand it will only be to get it on the record that he did not know she was going to lie so he can protect his own azz.

BigFatMommyDog
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
wow - Sabarnes Oxley/ Enron - we rollin with the big dogs now

can this get weirder (oh yes, I know it can...)

Sleuth5
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
George wrote in his suicide letter that Cindy was "smarter" than him.

I wouldn't say "smarter" George, just slyer than you.

ITA. CA has never struck me as the brightest bulb on the tree. Narcissists just think they're smarter than everyone else. They will continue to think that regardless of the evidence presented to the contrary.

GreenTeam
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Will CA be able to get a job at WalMart someday, I wonder?

BetteDavisEyes
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Cindy knew that she was lying on the witness stand and so did Baez. He admitted as much to HHJP. He'd best watch his next move with Mrs. A. or he will be charged with suborning perjury. jmo

frogger
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
My own feelings about Cindy have been ever-changing. I have felt something close to hatred, anger, sympathy and then now I have settled on pity.

She is a broken person who will be haunted by what she tried to pull. While I am glad her lies have helped accentuate her daughters premeditation.

She is pitiful and I do have pity.

I agree with you so much. If she could only show (and, presumably, feel) a bit of humility, I think it would go a long way to starting the healing process. As long as she stays stuck in that smug "I'm right and the rest of the world is wrong" mentality she'll get little sympathy. More importantly, she'll never be able to heal from any of this.

Nali87
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
They can hardly say someone else did it. The gentleman said they have the records of the patient's files that were worked on. I'm sure those patients were the responsibility of primarily Cindy Anthony.

kaki
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
I can see JB already "Is it possible, sir, for someone else to use a computer that has been logged into by somebody else?"

Grrrrrrr


Yes... it is possible but highly unethical.

Leah0107
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Geesh, she pick the wrong thing to lie about. I mean this documentation is crazy detailed. This is worse that the tow company manager having extensive experience with trash, garbage and human decomp smells.

gibby207
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Just thought of this angle: Gentiva was prolly royally ticked at hearing what Cindy said because it hurts their reputation so it was a 2-edged sword to get this info out there.

A) Slaughter Cindy's lies

B) Protect Gentiva's reputation

SyraKelly
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
But why would she do that?
CA: "Here's my username & pw, keep me looking busy at work according to computer tracking, so I can go home and look up chlorophyll for my sick dogs"

She has no reason to give anyone her information, because what she claims to be doing at the time, shouldn't have needed any covering up.

I was thinking along the lines that maybe she told someone the info so they could maybe check something CA did for a patient.I was just throwing things out there as to what JB will come back with.

Jstc4caylee
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
He is not an IT guy, heck he's not even a chemist. he IS however, chief compliance officer...lol

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Juror 16 is leaning back and resting his head on back wall.

by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:27 PM

Cat99
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
All of us at Gentiva worked together in a work sharing program. We gave each other our passwords and covered for each other on a regular basis. If we had to leave the office for some personal business we just got someone to cover. We were all salaried and our manager knew what we were doing. That is why I enjoyed working there so much.

Really? Is this a common practice at Gentiva? Thanks.

JMO

CarolinaWoman
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
I am freakin addicted to White Cheddar Popcorn. Come next week...no more!

I gotta get off drinking coffee until the court takes their lunch break ... then it's Oreos for me, Both are killers and I could possibly be developing a 'wide load' from sitting, :floorlaugh:

katydid23
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
I can't even begin to imagine how JB will cross this. What possible (intelligent) questions can he ask? It's obvious the SA has covered all their bases on this one.

JB: But sir, you are NOT a chemist, correct?

kathyn2
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
OK this is getting really boring. The State should have made this all short and sweet somehow and not given the defense so much to work with too.

jharres
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
Cindy will just say someone signed her in and out... You'll see.

That will be difficult, considering in her testimony, she was adamant that no one else had her login credentials (regarding the email).

shezcrafti
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
But that was just a fishing expedition and will not dispute this damaging testimony.

Baez wants Cindy's work records for 7/15, the day the car was picked up from the tow yard. We all klnow Cindy came and went from work yhat day so he wants to show that she signed in for a full work day probably. To try and prove that she comes and goes from work-despite signing in all day on her time card.

But this shows her working during these disputed hours because she was working on her work computer desk terminal on patient files.

BBM. But if JB goes there, then the SA could bring up that her co-workers were telling her to go home. They knew about the car being found and that Cindy was upset. It was an atypical circumstance. If he tries to paint it as anything but, he's going to end up with egg on his face.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
Remember: juror #2 is an IT Manager. Not that he ever reacts to anything! But I'm sure he totally understands this testimony!

by stevehelling via twitter at 1:27 PM

Storm
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
At least Cindy had a real job with real work that she did.

Just not at the times she swears she does:( ^i^

ahoyhoy
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
Very ironic that it appeared Cindy had lied to save her daughter but it is her alledged lies that may help convict her...

Oh please oh please God give CA 15 years for perjury and stick her in a cell w/ICA 23 hours per day. :innocent:

Bon
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
My own feelings about Cindy have been ever-changing. I have felt something close to hatred, anger, sympathy and then now I have settled on pity.

She is a broken person who will be haunted by what she tried to pull. While I am glad her lies have helped accentuate her daughters premeditation.

She is pitiful and I do have pity.

Is something wrong with me, am I a terrible person? I feel no pity for her at all. You make your bed, you lie in it........no pun intended!!!

She turned her back on Caylee......and supported the murderer!!!

BCV
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
So Cindy is planning her own rebuttal eh? Should be interesting.

Ya know since anyone could have logged onto the family computer it may have been one of the dogs searching chlor"a"form... He may have been wondering why he was always so tired?

kjpaw
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#%21/bobkealing) bob kealing



Juror 10 leaned up in his chair and looked to the side in #CindyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23CindyAnthony) direction. 11 just did too. #CaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23CaseyAnthony)

Seems like she should be removed for making gestures! :banghead:

symbolic
07-01-2011, 02:28 PM
That will be the next lie.... I had someone sign in for me.... hmmm.. which co worker can she throw under the bus?


Remember folks.. the defense can't call any more witnesses.. who would solicit
those denials from CA at this time?.. SA certainly won't be going there...

Beyond Belief
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Sadness is all I feel. Enough is enough. This defendant just isn't worth it.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
At home, also shows same thing 113pm, 227 thru the end of the day Mar 21 2008 when she claims she was home looking up chloroform on line
4 minutes ago

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Cindy's work computer shows she changed patient profiles from 141pm to 222pm on March 17 2008 when Cindy says she researched chloroform
7 minutes ago

faefrost
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Who is doing the defense cross on this guy? I ask because we have not had any pop up "objections for no reason"in a long while? Which sort of rules out JB?

QueenD
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
HOO - FAAA

busted

Cindy Anthony is now a proven liar in a court of law.

And on National TV to the whole world that is watching

MustlyLurking
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Yes, bring it!

Pooh
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Casey thinking " OMG, My mother? she's a waste, huge waste. What do I have to do to get my "family" to lie and cover for me? Is it really too much to ask them to lie to get me out of this mess? I mean Caylee was not even a person really, how old was she? 2 and a half or something? Geez" :(

I remember that "huge waste" comment. Did they play that for the jury? I don't remember hearing it. Speakes VOLUMES!

Camille
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Oh I see Cindy back there now...with her head down.

KenoshaKid
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Yes for both days. Yabbadabbadooo!!

Polifax
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
I think Baez will go with, and the witness referenced it also, that employees share passwords. :(

MissSallyAnnie
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Seems like the work computers keep perfect records of user activity. And you know what is awesome, Jose Baez by accepting Cindy's testimony about doing chloroform searches, in my opinion, in a sense admitted to the jury that chloroform searches were done. Now that Cindy is out, Casey's back in.
Good point!

JBounds
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
This is getting boring...but telling at the same time.

Kat
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
BAM got her for the March 17th 2008 and March 21 2008. Dang. here comes Baez.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
lindadraneburdick now focusing on key times where records show Cindy was at her work station entering info. Not home doing searches.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:29 PM

JC says computer records show on March 17, 2008 Cindy was entering info into Gentiva's system at a work station from 1-3p eastern time.
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:28 PM

artbuc
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Cross: Sir, are you a chemist? Sir, do you own a gas can?

pjmale
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
JB up.

Bainbridge
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
I can't wait to see how Baez bumbles this one.

minazoe
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
okaaayyyy

ZsaZsa
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
But that was just a fishing expedition and will not dispute this damaging testimony.

Baez wants Cindy's work records for 7/15, the day the car was picked up from the tow yard. We all klnow Cindy came and went from work yhat day so he wants to show that she signed in for a full work day probably. To try and prove that she comes and goes from work-despite signing in all day on her time card.

But this shows her working during these disputed hours because she was working on her work computer desk terminal on patient files.

I would bet my paycheck she logged off when she left the office.
She is very aware of medical records security. You don't just leave your computer up when you leave so someone else could access it. You can get terminated for that breach..

MustlyLurking
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Sir, are you a chemist?

JustMeDeb
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Seems like GA is having a lot of Aha moments today.

Boodles
07-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Casey thinking " OMG, My mother? she's a waste, huge waste. What do I have to do to get my "family" to lie and cover for me? Is it really too much to ask them to lie to get me out of this mess? I mean Caylee was not even a person really, how old was she? 2 and a half or something? Geez" :(

Yes, that is EXACTLY what her face looks like she's thinking!

driver
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
I can't even begin to imagine how JB will cross this. What possible (intelligent) questions can he ask? It's obvious the SA has covered all their bases on this one.

The witness said (quickly, as somewhat of an afterthought) when asked about password sharing that they aren't supposed to, but do they do it? Yes.
Jose will jump on that like a rattlesnake.

Shyla
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
So as Cindy and George were working to support ICA and Caylee ICA was searching ways to kill!

jharres
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
Oooh, Baez up for cross, can't wait for the circus.

QueenD
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
Oh dear, Does JB know this guy is a lawyer?

patriciah
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
this is going to be a good cross. JB matching wits with the in house counsel. Should be entertaining.

SailorMoon
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
OMG here come JB with no notebook or anything. Supposing he'll ask him about his pets then?????

Leah0107
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
I am so curious about what this lawyer thinks of JB.

BigFatMommyDog
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
ITA. CA has never struck me as the brightest bulb on the tree. Narcissists just think they're smarter than everyone else. They will continue to think that regardless of the evidence presented to the contrary.

great post in sidebar today by member who's dad was the execution baby sitter for Bundy - said Bundy knew exactly how smart he was - ICA not so much.

Kenziema
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
What could he possibly ask this man?!?

NoeticSoul
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
Casey must be SO proud of herself... completely ruining her mother's nursing career.

summerthyme
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
Oh good grief, JB.

anb
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
Sleazy, sleazy.

ami
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
ha. can't attack the evidence - go for corruption.

Gentiva is clearly out to get ICA. And Cindy.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
Several jurors taking notes as witness says Cindy was entering in computer system
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:30 PM

On March 21, 2008 JC says according to Gentiva's work records Cindy was entering patient information from 2p-3p (eastern time) #CaseyAnthony
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:29 PM

Gentiva records show entry times were done from Winter Park terminal, not home. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:29 PM

curiositycat
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
All of us at Gentiva worked together in a work sharing program. We gave each other our passwords and covered for each other on a regular basis. If we had to leave the office for some personal business we just got someone to cover. We were all salaried and our manager knew what we were doing. That is why I enjoyed working there so much.

You must have trusted each other a whole lot. I never would feel comfortable about giving my passwords out, anywhere. JMHO

Amster
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
LOL....JB is so lost

cityslick
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
That's it?

WOW, he really didn't have anything for cross.

summerthyme
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
WOW over and OUT!

strawberry
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
And your point is, Baez?? You are just pointing out that CA lied. Wait, that's it? JB gave up? :lol:

MaryAnn
07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
YAY!! Was anyone surprised??

ynotdivein
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
OH MY GOSH, Jose, you just pointed out to the jury in two questions that the State had to contact this witness AFTER and BECAUSE Cindy lied on the stand!!!!

KenoshaKid
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
JB asking if this is the first time the SA contacted them.

jharres
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
So is that JBs admission that CA is impeached? Hahahaha......lol

wenwe4
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Afternoon session: JB objected to Gentiva records coming in as the witness did not down load the records....HHBP overruled due to busines records of Gentiva...bring jury in an bring the witness in and lets get going....

LB D - John Camperlengo - employee of Gentiva - Chief Compliance Officer of Gentiva largest home healthcare in US...legal affairs of the company ensuring regulatory ...compliance and general legal affairs of the company....Federal regulations Gentiva must comply with ....he is resposible for compliances.....retention policy patient files collected @ branch - sent offsite to a vender and electronic data bases...some outside venders....requirements to keep emails ....company policy to maintain 10 year for patient care retention requirement......electronic documents are maintained in Overland Park KS, separate security officer responsible for maintenance....Gentiva have one server for all locations? several servers for email but clinical managment system we have is maintained in Overland park....time stamp is KS time ....Gentiva regular course of business compile emails received and deleted by employees...when placed on server - even when deleted they are placed on server..,,,,emails are backed up maintained on tape ....offsite...we must make sure for HIPPA if ever a breach we would have to notify all patients .....data related to the use of particular data @ the work station....regular documentation what being worked on @ particular stations....records maintained under regular user id....everyone has unique login and id...can retrieve info from various servers....every employee has their own id login...yes first and mid initial and first five of last name....clinical management system time stamp is made in KS time one hour behind EST - time is recorded....Cynthia M. Anthony was employee of Winterpark Gentiva in 2008...on 6/24 officer asked me for employee records - after receive subpeona it included phone records, computer activity infor realtive.......some employee information...

JB - stipulation...

HHBP - 2008 Gentiva health employer 2008 - true and accurate 1/1/08 - 6/16/08 ....true and factual...exhibit received in evidence...

LDB- employee profile for CA....appears to be one familiar with Gentiva documents....1/3 way down page....network id login...cmanthon....

Mr. C - run thru IT dept and provided to state...series of documents ...marked RU RV RT RW & RX - last 2 are composites.....deleted, received and sent emails from Gentiva acct of CA for 3/17/08 week....

looks consistent with IT dept ...provide to Mr C for compliance of subpeona....emails are in standard form....introduce into evidence...no objects from DT....
enter into evidence....#339 - #343....


custodian of records for Gentiva subpoena records for week of 3/17/08 complied with order...document produced in response for subpoena for login cmanthon...., letter entered into evidence....publish during testimony...

provided 6/28....log in and log out UNITY system for each home health care office Gentiva uses....in that section next to cmanthon....w with a number ends in an "a"...cmanthony logged into her desk station on 3/17/08 7:02:03 CENTRAl time
b section...Unity is old system ...cannot toggle betwen 2 screens like windows....open 2 sessions....up until 3:28 3/21/08 ....2 logins result of the clinical manager system to utilize cliincal manager....you need to get info from one screen to enter into another screen have to have both open or if you close out screen you will lose all info....something about that tells you it is a desktop work station vs. laptop.....in our company we desginate work staion is a W if a laptop it is an L....terminal worked on ....same terminal used entire week. User cmanthon was @ work station 3/17/08 @ 8:02:02 EST login occurred....not all employees required to log in each day....if meeting that day don't have to log in...log in signifies the UNITY system will be activated...ended 16:42:41 and 16:52 those are log out times ....system is running off a system in KS....once you log out you are out....can you walk away from your desk all day...unity system stays up...you can ....if more than 5 hours it would auto lock you out but if only 15 min you would stay up....if yu log in and there is activity does system stay up? if you working and entering info you will stay on so long as you dont delay 5 hours....information is consistent for 3/18 - 3/20 as well....on 21st of March first opened 743:06 and second opened 7:43:20 CT ....16:37:30 and 4:31 central time in FL add one hour - correct....

LDB - approach witness with exhibit RZ for identfication...
JB asks for stipulation...

excell spread sheet printed broke document in half due to landscape version of that document....this is a journal report for cmanthon for week of 3/17/08 thru 3/21/08 ...user id all activity under that user id during that week....all entries into Unity system....all changes to clinical records....first line has acronyms....various columns represent...unity created late 90's journal entry system...works off journals...first column is journal entry...second is date entered....journal time....central standard time - KS time ...hour hour min min sec sec time frame...it is really 07:02:02 KS time...journal journal user

2 items changed on that record @ 110 thru 1:22 Central time..business recoreds of Gentiva show user cmanthon working patient records @ a terminal in the office from 12:41 central time thru 13:22 ....1:22 Central or 2:22 EST....record continues all week in this same fashion....tues is the big day to lock down and go thru plans of treatment and send to Drs to verify the care....DR. sends Rx for homecare...send out nurse to patient home capture demographic data maintained on paper....data entry person enters what nurse has filled out...has diagnosis....info nurse filled out is accurate ordersin place to forward to medicare and track outcomes of patient....changes or alterations in patient after care of the patient....after 2nd day information is forwarded on to medicare....move down to afternoon hours of 3/21/08....line number 5069..column C job time.....afternoon of 3/21/08.....line 5086 activity user for cmanthon 13:47:44 Central time...someone hit enter button....didn't produce info on patient HIPPA law...identity of the patient is not required to track employee ....not at all....cmanthon was at the desk terminal - correct....thru end of the day....it appears to be activity throughout user id thru afternoon @ bottom of the page be able to see.....until 15:06:29 Central time is last entry on that computer equates to 16:06 or 4:06 EST....network login accounts password protected...how do you make sure patient records are secure...everyone has unique identfier....password changed every 90 days...do not share employee id company policy....no outside enttiy...only updates come from IBM on disc to our IT people who update.....publically traded company shabanes oxley requirement material process of an organization must be audited and we have internal audits...we are about patients and this is the most important......Sarbanes oxley act passed in 2002 following enron collapse public companies tested external and internal audit to make sure off balance not occuring sarbanes oxley compliant and on all FCC compliance. papers....Chief Compliance officer and CEO and CFO of the company Executive officers....Gentiva documents user cmanthon wasat a work station entering patient info Unity system between 1:30 and 3:00 pm ESt ....I have from 1:41 ....yes
cmanthon was entering info into patient records on 3/2/08 betwen 2:00 and 3:00 EST - yes correct....

no further questions
Cross- EXAm - JB ...were you contacted in summer 2009 to provide any of this documentation - no sir....last friday on the 24th....after Ms. A testified asked to provide info ....not asked prior to that to impeach CA? witness excused

SuziQ
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
This isn't a cross, this is JB still complaining.

Jstc4caylee
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
WELL no Joke Baez, they, unlike you did not know she was going to lie ..duh.

Leah0107
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
When else was it needed - heelllloooo!

Kat
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
I missed Baez questions. What did he ask?

Never mind I see the transcript :)

indicat
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Could it be that she lied up a storm (as oppossed to "white lies") on the stand!! :mad:

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Camperlengo excused. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:30 PM

Baez asked Camperlengo if state asked for these records before. he said no. He was first asked June 24, 2011. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:30 PM

#baez now suggesting state should have sought this information sooner.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:30 PM

mombomb
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
7/1/11

JB has a potential objection to the first witness. HHJBP overrules and says to proceed.

1:35

JURY BACK

DIRECT EXAMINATION OF JOHN CAMPERLINGO

He is the chief compliance officer and general counsel for Gentiva. Headquarters are located in Atlanta. He is responsible for the legal affairs of the company.

He is responsible to see that Gentiva complies with Federal regulations.

Information retention? Most of their documents are patient files and those are collected and maintained at the branch, sent to an offsite location and then they are maintained in an electronic database. It is a company policy that they maintain records. Patient records are kept for 10 years. The e-docs are maintained in their Kansas location. There is a separate security officer responsible for maintenance of those. There are likely to be several servers for email, but the clinical management retention system is in Kansas, kept on the central time zone. Electronic time stamps will be one hour behind.

Emails sent or received by employees are maintained. They are retrievable, whether they are deleted or not. This is maintained on tape. They are subject to HIPPA and if there is ever a breach, they would have to notify all patients.

Does Gentiva record and compile data related to terminal work stations at particular offices? If it is maintained on a server, then yes. Under a particular user ID? Yes, everyone has a unique log in and ID and that information is retrievable.

Clock in and out times of employees? They use Unity - branch directors record certain information. When someone logs into the system a stamp is made in Central time and that is recorded and maintained.

Was CA an employee in Winter Park in March of 2008? June 24 he received a call from a detective from OCSO who asked him to retrieve some records. He requested a subpoena and once he received that it related to phone records, computer activity, internet activity and some other info related to CA.

Stipulation - CA was employed by Gentiva. Documents are true and accurate for employment from 1/1/08 to 7/16/08.

Documents marked as Exhibit 338?

He identified the document as an employee profile of CA. It indicates what her ID and log in was - CMANTHON.

The records include deleted, sent and received emails.

RT composite, RU, RV, RW composite and RX composite. He identified them as the deleted, received and sent emails to the Gentiva account for CA for the week of March 17, 2008.

He directed IT (Mr. Paul Stein - VP of IT) to provide the records to him to comply with the subpoena.

Emails in Outlook form.

Items marked as Exhibits 339-343.

He asked for the log in and log out times for CA for the week of March 17, 2008. It was part of the subpoena request. He was shown Exhibit RY and identified it as the log in info. Document marked as Exhibit 344 and published.

The title of the document is History Log Report for CMANTHON.

She logged on and opened a session in Unity on 3/17 at 7:02:02 Central Time.
Next - B session - Clinical managers open two sessions. They were opened within a 2 seconds. That is consistent right up until 3:28 on 3/21/08. The two log ins are consistent. Two have to be opened to toggle between two screens.

They designate work stations with a W and laptops with an L.

102937 is the terminal. The record shows the same terminal was used the entire week.

The records show that CA was at a work station on March 17, 2008 beginning at 8:02:02 EST.

All employees are not required to log in at the beginning of the work day.

A log in signifies that an employee is activating the Unity system.

The record for 3/17/08 ended at 16:51. These are the log out periods.

The system is running off a server in Kansas, but once you log out, you are out. If you walk away from your desk, there is a 5 hour timed log out.

If you log in and you are conducting activity on the system, it stays up until you log out so long as you don't delay 5 hours.

Explanation for March 17 is the same for the rest of the days of the week.

On 3/21/08 there were two sessions - 7:43:06 and 7:43:20 CST. Both sessions were logged off at 16:37 CST.

Composite Exhibit RZ - (JB - we stipulate to RZ as well). Marked as Exhibit 345. The original format is an EXEL spreadsheet and was published. He identified it as a journal report of the user CA for the week of March 17, 2008 through March 21, 2008 - all of the activity under the user ID during that week - all entries into the Unity system.

The first line - the columns - A is journal entry, the second is date, the third is journal time (CST), work station, journal user, job # that tracks the number for the record, job library is the data base on which this is held, job objective and job program are technical terms.

Records are maintained electronically - they are not replaced - you just keep adding and adding on top of.

At 7:03:13 there are three entries at the same time which means that three items on that page were changed. That continues throughout the day for 3/17 under the B session. There was no activity on the A session.

Afternoon hours of 3/17/08 and 3/18/08 - Line 110 - 12:41:27 - that would be 1:41:27 EST. Regarding activity from 110 to 133 - he can't tell the specific patient changes that were made to the file, but there at least several that were made, changes to patient profiles in their Unity system during that time.

The records show that CA was working on patient records at a terminal in the office from 12:41 CST down through 13:22 CST - (1:41 EST to 2:22 EST).

The record continues all week. Tuesday was the heaviest day because they produce all their plans of treatment on that day. The manager of clinical practice is responsible for making sure the patient is properly diagnosed, the nurse's notes are accurate, the orders are accurate.

Afternoon of 3/21/08 - 1:00 CST - Line 5086 - entry at 13:27:44. Somebody hit the enter button to enter data in a patient record at a desk terminal under CA's log in. The activity continued thru the end of the day - until 15:06 (CST).

The log in accounts are password protected. Everybody has a unique identifier and an individual password that is changed every 90 days. They try to get employees to not share passwords, but it does happen.

They are subject to external and internal auditing.

Sarbanes-Oxley - an act passed in 2002 following Enron collapse, requiring publicly traded companies be audited.

The records show that CA was entering info on 3/17/08 between 1:00 and 3:00 EST. On 3/21/08 she was entering info between 2:00 and 3:00 EST.

CROSS EXAMINATION BY JB

Were you contacted in the summer of 2009 to provide this info? No, it was last Friday.

You weren't asked to provide any info prior than that to impeach CA?

No.

OBJECTION

Witness is excused at 2:30

SIDEBAR 2:30

JBounds
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Cross by BZ. Who we all know how great he is with computers

rosepetal1065
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Okay that's all JB had........hehe

BritsKate
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Baez on cross...testimony is headed to JB's boo-hooing. Just asked witness when he was first asked for records. And??? CA had only just lied under oath!

Steely Dan
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Does JB really think that hammering home CA changed her testimony on the stand at the last minute would help his defense? :waitasec::banghead:

fifteen89
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
How do you impeach her before she testifies and LIES???

christee
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Ooooh BIG smile for the IT guy from Linda!

Pooh
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Cross: Sir, are you a chemist? Sir, do you own a gas can?

OMG!! :floorlaugh: Great post!

kathyn2
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Wow, that was stupid on Baez's part. What did that prove??? Cindy lied and the State had to call in her ex employer's to set the record straight.

KenoshaKid
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
ICA looking thwarted.

21merc7
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Well, JB that was useless. The records are in, it is not trial by ambush. You admitted you knew CA was going to lie. State did not know she was.

Softail
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
:lol: JB has nothing to say except that the state just requested this information after CA testified!

DUH! :doh:

Oh, nice. Now CA's old boss!

luv
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/2q1w0oh.jpg

Plumeria5
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Linda gives witness BIG smile! This is huge!

minazoe
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Holy SHIPWRECK! that's it???

the end of a dream, Jose.

Curious Me
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
JB finally figured out to not push the issue. Really?

Talina
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Okay, Mr. Baez. What exactly was the purpose of those cross examining questions? How could they have even known they were going to need those records to impeach Cindy before she got on the stand and perjured herself for your client?

IMO

grepNYC
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
I can't even begin to imagine how JB will cross this. What possible (intelligent) questions can he ask? It's obvious the SA has covered all their bases on this one.

There are things he can ask. And they will not make a difference in this particular case.

I will not post them here, because I have no intention of giving the DT any ideas.

monique
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Way to go JB! Thanks for helping to put the noose on ICA's neck.

suzihawk
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
How could this witness be asked to testify about impeachment before she did it? Geez. Talk about desparate.

gngr~snap
07-01-2011, 02:31 PM
JB: But sir, you are NOT a chemist, correct?

NO! but I am a higher paid lawyer than you!

azscr4mbl3r
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Get the cryin' towel ready....

adb263
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
So what depo did he have to take???? Hopefully not the Gentiva guy as he didn't ask really anything of him!!

ami
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
All of us at Gentiva worked together in a work sharing program. We gave each other our passwords and covered for each other on a regular basis. If we had to leave the office for some personal business we just got someone to cover. We were all salaried and our manager knew what we were doing. That is why I enjoyed working there so much.

Totally. Just wait. She's totally going to go this route. hehehe.

mitzi
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Debbie Polisano! Weeeeee!

cluciano63
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Hi, Frank :)

strawberry
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
He talked to this guy all morning so he could snark at the SA for not knowing CA was going to lie on the stand?

rice09
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
You can just tell by ICA's body language she KNOWS it was her and she knows everyone else knows it too!

faefrost
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
All of us at Gentiva worked together in a work sharing program. We gave each other our passwords and covered for each other on a regular basis. If we had to leave the office for some personal business we just got someone to cover. We were all salaried and our manager knew what we were doing. That is why I enjoyed working there so much.

Yeah, but try testifying to that in a capital murder case and watch the fireworks begin.

symbolic
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
I remember that "huge waste" comment. Did they play that for the jury? I don't remember hearing it. Speakes VOLUMES!

Yes.. the jury heard that phone call

kant
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Very ironic that it appeared Cindy had lied to save her daughter but it is her alledged lies that may help convict her...

May be giving Cindy too much credit here, but imo she loved Caylee much more than she ever loved Casey.

ergo... (did I just say ergo?)

that may be Cindy's goal....get ICA convicted.

I do not think Cindy is loving mother of the year.

I know such a convoluted plan has a, "The Sting" air to it, but it's not impossible. Oh, God, I just dated myself.


I still contend that Cindy's "argument"/fight with ICA that fateful night precipitated (contributed to.. instigated... incited.... ) innocent Caylee's death.

As in, Cindy to Casey: "Casey, I WILL take custody of Caylee from you and expose all your.... stuff"

and ICA... even tho she may not have wanted Caylee.. (pains me to type that) she didnt want Cindy to have her.

ICA was not going to allow CINDY to have her.

moo





proceed with the veggies.


.

Blue Ridge
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
OH MY GOSH, Jose, you just pointed out to the jury in two questions that the State had to contact this witness AFTER and BECAUSE Cindy lied on the stand!!!!

Thanks YNot! I just *knew* there had to be a purpose to those questions....but I couldn't figure it out.... :floorlaugh:

Leah0107
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
oh my gosh, jose, you just pointed out to the jury in two questions that the state had to contact this witness after and because cindy lied on the stand!!!!

exactly what i was thinking!!!!

grepNYC
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Linda gives witness BIG smile! This is huge!

She was giving him little smiles the whole time.

MissSallyAnnie
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Masterful cross examination, Baez! lol, sarcasmmmmmmmmmmm

pinkfly
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
So JB just wants that in the record because he still feels very put upon over this rebuttal evidence....not an appeal issue, I hope

JB Fletcher
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
JB's question was to get it on record for appellate purposes.

KenoshaKid
07-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Her BOSS!

ZsaZsa
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Casey must be SO proud of herself... completely ruining her mother's nursing career.

I think CA did that all by herself. Perjury is a felony. If she is tried and convicted of a felony she can kiss her license goodbye.

goatman
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
So, what I just heard was " before CA lied about doing computer searches...were contacted for proof that she was indeed at work?"

21merc7
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Why is KC mad? Did she too not think that all would be exposed?

OOH is this witness the one that heard CA talk about the stink?

technicalconfusion
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
JB finally figured out to not push the issue. Really?

SSH! Don't speak too soon...:floorlaugh:

nursebeeme
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
OH MY GOSH, Jose, you just pointed out to the jury in two questions that the State had to contact this witness AFTER and BECAUSE Cindy lied on the stand!!!!

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Sleuth5
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Geesh, she pick the wrong thing to lie about. I mean this documentation is crazy detailed. This is worse that the tow company manager having extensive experience with trash, garbage and human decomp smells.

Don't forget all her sly smiles, stiflling laughter, etc., while she was lying to LDB about this to begin with. She just doesn't care. She thinks she is above the law and there is nothing you can do about it. Remember early on? "There's no body," she half-smiled at the cameras. Justice isn't the issue. With CA, it's first, last, and always about her, and showing you.

:cow:

QueenD
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Oh that RH

ichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
CMA I LOVE YOU! CMA I WILL ALWAYS PROTECT YOU! CMA YOU ARE MY USERNAME AND NOT #CASEYANTHONY'S!

ami
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Thank god there are good people out there who try to do right, who do their jobs, who are smart and honest most of the time. Who help fight for justice.

This case has brought out the best and worst of humanity, IMO.

MustlyLurking
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Another PT home run!

Pooh
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Holy SHIPWRECK! that's it???

the end of a dream, Jose.

LOL! Time to close down the law firm. You're DONE!

Nali87
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
I'm not a fan of George. I prefer Linda and JA.

susan1122
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
trial had 2 viable reasonable doubts: Cindy did the chloroform search & Dad admitted a "horrible accident." Search? disappears

by kerrynbc via twitter at 1:21 PM

I think it has been clarified that GA just thought it was an accident. Not that he Knew. What do you guys think?

HOTNTX
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
BOMBSHELL.....JACKPOT!!! She was putting patient information into the Gentiva office computer during the time that she said that she was looking up Chloroform at home.

BUSTED....SLAM DUNK..KC is Toast with NO Butter!

Love ya LDB, JA and FG!!!

nomoresorrow
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Casey must be SO proud of herself... completely ruining her mother's nursing career.

Respectfully, I disagree. Cindy made the choice to ruin Cindy's career. JMO~

cityslick
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Heh, they are bring in the heavy firepower against CA. Shows how important they think those searches are.

rosepetal1065
07-01-2011, 02:33 PM
oh, here's clinical director...

minazoe
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
this is gonna suk for them.

MissSallyAnnie
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
So many people sucked into this Anthony vortex. I'm so happy I don't know these people!

GreenTeam
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
I like FG.

Leah0107
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Cindy has got to be feeling really humiliated!

ZsaZsa
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
So, what I just heard was " before CA lied about doing computer searches...were contacted for proof that she was indeed at work?"

That's true. They provided proof that CA was at work. CA then lied on the stand that she left work that day to run home and do computer searches. They just came back and proved she was there documenting notes on her computer..

Horace Finklestein
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Cindy really sold her soul for Caylee's killer. So unbelievably sick.

MAL954
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
better late than never Jose - well not for everyone LOL

Kat
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
JB's question was to get it on record for appellate purposes.

I was thinking this too thanks JBF.

jmfstl
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Hmmm is the SA building a case for perjury here. I know it has been discussed over and over in the lawyer thread where all the lawyers did not think they would charge her but listening to this it seems they have a lot of evidence.

minazoe
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
state is enjoying this part of the trial immensely.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Polisano: Pretty much ran the Winter Park Gentiva office. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:34 PM

#CaseyAnthony Baez had nothing much to say on cross exam. Now on to Deborah Polisano, she was Cindy's supervisor
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:34 PM

Next witness: Deborah Polisano of Gentiva in Winter Park. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:33 PM

State now calls Debbie Polisano as their 3rd rebuttal witness. She was a coworker / boss of #cindyanthony #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:33 PM

So basically, Gentiva records show #CindyAnthony was at Winter Park office NOT home when chloroform searches done at #CaseyAnthony home.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:32 PM

#CaseyAnthony Cindy's employer just said Cindy was making entries AT her work station at time Cindy claimed to do chrloroform search.
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:31 PM

pinkfly
07-01-2011, 02:34 PM
...and I like her too.....because I know she is going to say something that I like....

AlwaysShocked
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
RE: Employer provided Disability Insurance coverage. "This would depend on her work policy. I have a permanent policy from my employer. It is designed to combine with the SS to give me a total of 60% of my salary at the rime I became disabled and will be in place until I die. I had a very generous employer."

There is no "standard" time that employer provided disability will pay. It all depends on the policy purchased by the individual employer. It is NOT the same as Social Security Disability.

Sleuths4Me
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
I can't even begin to imagine how JB will cross this. What possible (intelligent) questions can he ask? It's obvious the SA has covered all their bases on this one.

As you can see he didn't..just had to ask a few "unimportant" questions to make it look good but he had nothing to really ask

Amster
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Oh that RH

ichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
CMA I LOVE YOU! CMA I WILL ALWAYS PROTECT YOU! CMA YOU ARE MY USERNAME AND NOT #CASEYANTHONY'S!

:floorlaugh:

He needs to stop!!

Oh snap!! Co-worker!! Did she use CA's computer?? Is she a chemist??

Oh good! Solve the question of home visits!!!

smartsass
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
I can understand a mother wanting to save her child (Casey) from the death penalty but lying under oath in a court of law is not the way to do that and frankly I find CA utterly despictable. How about getting down on her knees during the penalty phase and pleading for mercy.

I don't fault her for that nor do I think less of her. I'd have done the same. It must be a horrible thing to realize your daughter killed and disposed of your only granddaughter and nothing can bring her back and now, you're likely to lose you only daughter too. I can absolutely understand what she did and why she did it, I can't pass judgment on that. In fact, I am able to minimize it (as some may see it) as she lied to protect Casey, she didn't kill any one, she was trying to save her daughter from death. What wouldn't a mother do? I feel many have been far too hard on CA, if I were a betting person I'd bet high that she is disgusted, devastated, and a wealth of other things realizing what Casey did but none of that will bring Caylee back. Now she is in family self-preservation mode.


I seem to know a bit more about computers than Cindy (I am by no means an expert, though) and I would have told the same lie she did and then later remembered "Dam-! They can catch me on that!" If JB knew she was going to testify to that, and he said he did, their advisers should have said "ya know, that can be verified if you were doing any work on work servers...." Should CA be brought up on charges for these lies and were I on a jury for her, I could not convict her. She is doing what mothers do.

JMOO- never any judgment intended to come across when my opinion differs from others, there's room for all of our ideas, thoughts, and feelings. :-)

JustMeDeb
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Your honor, the DT gives up.

Pooh
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Yes.. the jury heard that phone call

AWESOME! Not sure how I missed it but thanks for the info!!

jharres
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
wow, they are going all the way....impeaching her on everything she lied about that day. Go State!

GreenTeam
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
I also think that this shows that CA lies and ICA lies...just reinforces the lying, to ICA's detriment.

ShortPotato79
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
So many people sucked into this Anthony vortex. I'm so happy I don't know these people!

I know right?!? :floorlaugh:

minazoe
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
the family that lies together.....

strawberry
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
She seems much less nervous than last time

JSR
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Casey must be SO proud of herself... completely ruining her mother's nursing career.

Are you kidding nothing would please ICA more. I think she could handle staying in jail if she knew she completely decimated her entire familys life and happiness.

BCV
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Is there a cam with just Linda on it? sigh....

ami
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
I'm not a fan of George. I prefer Linda and JA.

Me too. However- you have to admit he was brilliant with Dominic Casey! hehehe So polite that DC thought FG was his long lost son and pretty much agreed with anything he said. Love it!

grepNYC
07-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Does JB really think that hammering home CA changed her testimony on the stand at the last minute would help his defense? :waitasec::banghead:

No. He is basically throwing in the towel. At this point for him, he just has to 'go through the motions'.

MissSallyAnnie
07-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Oh that RH

ichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
CMA I LOVE YOU! CMA I WILL ALWAYS PROTECT YOU! CMA YOU ARE MY USERNAME AND NOT #CASEYANTHONY'S!
This guy is in the wrong profession!

pinkfly
07-01-2011, 02:36 PM
clarifying what a salaried employee can do

SAgal
07-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Goodness - Doesn't Baez know the statement: "No question for this witness" ????
He simply does not know when to simple NOT TALK.
He does have a lot in common with the Anthonys, in my opinion.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Polisano: #CindyAnthony didn't have to leave office to perform work. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:35 PM

Polisano says Cindy had a team of field staff who worked under her. She was responsible for paperwork. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:35 PM

#CindyAnthony resp. for clinical aspect, paperwork for team. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:35 PM

#CindyAnthony 2008 office supervisor now on stand.
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:34 PM

genitiva rep testifies records show Cindy was logged onto her computer and actively working during times in question. #caseyanthony
by anthonycase via twitter at 1:34 PM

Polisano supervised #CindyAnthony in 2008. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:34 PM

Wishbone
07-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Cindy has got to be feeling really humiliated!


That family lacks that particular feeling.......

artbuc
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
ICA in major lip pout mode.

jharres
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
Asking how the login/logouts were handled if someone had to leave. DP said the computer would lock itself out.

shezcrafti
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
I'm not a fan of George. I prefer Linda and JA.

I like FG. I like all three of 'em, really.

pinkfly
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
so is anyone besides me wondering who they would pick if they were in Orlando and needed a defense attorney.......

Nali87
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
Can't say chloroform searches were only made if Cindy did them but not my defendant. (Gleeeeeeful.)

sleutherontheside
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
Cindy really sold her soul for Caylee's killer. So unbelievably sick.

Funny, that as much as Nancy Grace talked about the lies.....she said said as a mother she'd "probably do the same thing".

MissSallyAnnie
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
:floorlaugh:Witness just laughed, then realized where she was

Camille
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
Goodness - Doesn't Baez know the statement: "No question for this witness" ????
He simply does not know when to simple NOT TALK.
He does have a lot in common with the Anthonys, in my opinion.

He wanted that on record for appeal

Pooh
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
Oh that RH

ichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
CMA I LOVE YOU! CMA I WILL ALWAYS PROTECT YOU! CMA YOU ARE MY USERNAME AND NOT #CASEYANTHONY'S!

LOL Love it! Everytime they replay that part of the memorial service I just wanna puke. Really Lee?? OMG. Just sickening.

summerthyme
07-01-2011, 02:37 PM
WOW logged out in 15 minutes!

TiaM
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
Debbie Polisano! Weeeeee!

I believe I remember that this witness cried in her original deposition. You could tell she felt so bad over Caylee, and for Cindy too.

monique
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
PeterKingCBS Peter King
by bobkealing
Court has just issued an order for closings...sayhing among other things, that the defense and prosecution have to play nice!

fifteen89
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
May be giving Cindy too much credit here, but imo she loved Caylee much more than she ever loved Casey.

ergo... (did I just say ergo?)

that may be Cindy's goal....get ICA convicted.

I do not think Cindy is loving mother of the year.

I know such a convoluted plan has a, "The Sting" air to it, but it's not impossible. Oh, God, I just dated myself.


I still contend that Cindy's "argument"/fight with ICA that fateful night precipitated (contributed to.. instigated... incited.... ) innocent Caylee's death.

As in, Cindy to Casey: "Casey, I WILL take custody of Caylee from you and expose all your.... stuff"

and ICA... even tho she may not have wanted Caylee.. (pains me to type that) she didnt want Cindy to have her.

ICA was not going to allow CINDY to have her.

moo





proceed with the veggies.


.

LOVED that movie!!

rose222
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
Cindy really sold her soul for Caylee's killer. So unbelievably sick.

Amen. Caylee has the judge, prosecutors and all of us fighting for justice. No one in her family has been there for her. Even George now is just trying to save himself. So sad.

minazoe
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
it was yesterday or the day before could have been thursday , no that would have been two days before...so like two days maybe three before that so like in June....


i can do it too now....

lolz

jharres
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
Kapow....the State is rocking this. I hope the IT friendly folks on the jury can make sure everyone else understands the significance of this.

pinkfly
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
GA and CA wearing matching mint green today ????

SyraKelly
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
Oh that RH

ichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
CMA I LOVE YOU! CMA I WILL ALWAYS PROTECT YOU! CMA YOU ARE MY USERNAME AND NOT #CASEYANTHONY'S!

:floorlaugh:

Nali87
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
Whoa - 15 minutes or 5 hours? Don't go contradicting yourselves now SA!

ETA: misunderstood. The computer logs itself off (sleeps) NOT the useraccount. Got it. Proceed.

Horace Finklestein
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
They got Cindy no doubt

suzihawk
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
Okay, Mr. Baez. What exactly was the purpose of those cross examining questions? How could they have even known they were going to need those records to impeach Cindy before she got on the stand and perjured herself for your client?

IMO

Well, in keeping with the rest of the defense he just helped out the State. :great:

I'm actually shaking my head so hard over the absurdity of it that I'd be thrown out of court for gesturing.

MAL954
07-01-2011, 02:38 PM
nice voice

gelfie68
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
WOW logged out in 15 minutes!

Most medical entities have this because of HIPPA.

strawberry
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
See what this ICA has done...her mother was a hardworking worker who did not take long lunches. Respected IMO.

Jstc4caylee
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
I like FG..he's just not as smooth,certainly as Linda..I mean that lady is organized and almost never misspeaks. And JA,well he's just a tiger lol

ami
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
This witness is kind of adorable.

artbuc
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
I wish she were my boss!

Reality Orlando
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
I bet CA was a very good employee. She seems to be a no nonsense person who takes pride in what she does.

realdeal
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
I don't fault her for that nor do I think less of her. I'd have done the same. It must be a horrible thing to realize your daughter killed and disposed of your only granddaughter and nothing can bring her back and now, you're likely to lose you only daughter too. I can absolutely understand what she did and why she did it, I can't pass judgment on that. In fact, I am able to minimize it (as some may see it) as she lied to protect Casey, she didn't kill any one, she was trying to save her daughter from death. What wouldn't a mother do? I feel many have been far too hard on CA, if I were a betting person I'd bet high that she is disgusted, devastated, and a wealth of other things realizing what Casey did but none of that will bring Caylee back. Now she is in family self-preservation mode.


I seem to know a bit more about computers than Cindy (I am by no means an expert, though) and I would have told the same lie she did and then later remembered "Dam-! They can catch me on that!" If JB knew she was going to testify to that, and he said he did, their advisers should have said "ya know, that can be verified if you were doing any work on work servers...." Should CA be brought up on charges for these lies and were I on a jury for her, I could not convict her. She is doing what mothers do.

JMOO- never any judgment intended to come across when my opinion differs from others, there's room for all of our ideas, thoughts, and feelings. :-)


I am certainly glad this is not how most mothers think and act. Trying to protect your child is understandable; committing perjury to protect the murderer of your grandchild, is not.

As always, IMHO.

rosepetal1065
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
Funny, that as much as Nancy Grace talked about the lies.....she said said as a mother she'd "probably do the same thing".

I was sorta surprised by that...but I heard her, go figure..

luv
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/xcuql5.jpg

stilettos
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
See what this ICA has done...her mother was a hardworking worker who did not take long lunches. Respected IMO.

IMO Cindy is a grown woman and made her own decision to lie on the stand.

Sleuth5
07-01-2011, 02:39 PM
I think it has been clarified that GA just thought it was an accident. Not that he Knew. What do you guys think?

No one will ever convince me that George knew about any "accident". I don't care what the guy's shortcomings are. He loved that little girl and he would have done anything he could to try and revive her had he actually "found her in the swimming pool." It's a sign of the depth of ICA's sociopathy that she would even consider accusing him of something like that.

:cow:

KenoshaKid
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Whoa - 15 minutes or 5 hours? Don't go contradicting yourselves now SA!

I am guessing the 15 minutes is the Windows screensaver and they have it set to make the user log on once the screensaver clicks on after 15 minutes. Its a setting you can set or not. the 5 hours I think refers to the mainframe system in Kansas City.

Softail
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
It is against policy to share id's!

:great:

newsjunkie
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Whoa - 15 minutes or 5 hours? Don't go contradicting yourselves now SA!

Actual PC locked up after 15 minutes. . .kinda standard with all computers.

Unity software logged you off after 5 hours.

everyoneneedsavoice
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
WOW...I'm sure the Florida Board of Nursing will be none to happy when they learn this information.


For the life of me, I can't believe CA would lie under oath, on national TV...about actions which are so heavily regulated by FLSA, Medicare/Medicaid, HIPAA Regs and company policies!

Senseless, sad and sick, IMO!!!

cloud9
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Can CA be charged with perjury???

watergirl
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
TennisLaw Diana Tennis
CA. : "Yes I lied, but I can explain. I have a brain tumor"
1 minute ago

fifteen89
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
BOMBSHELL.....JACKPOT!!! She was putting patient information into the Gentiva office computer during the time that she said that she was looking up Chloroform at home.

BUSTED....SLAM DUNK..KC is Toast with NO Butter!

Love ya LDB, JA and FG!!!

What? No thanks to JB, CM and DS for all their help?

hannahsnana
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
I don't fault her for that nor do I think less of her. I'd have done the same. It must be a horrible thing to realize your daughter killed and disposed of your only granddaughter and nothing can bring her back and now, you're likely to lose you only daughter too. I can absolutely understand what she did and why she did it, I can't pass judgment on that. In fact, I am able to minimize it (as some may see it) as she lied to protect Casey, she didn't kill any one, she was trying to save her daughter from death. What wouldn't a mother do? I feel many have been far too hard on CA, if I were a betting person I'd bet high that she is disgusted, devastated, and a wealth of other things realizing what Casey did but none of that will bring Caylee back. Now she is in family self-preservation mode.


I seem to know a bit more about computers than Cindy (I am by no means an expert, though) and I would have told the same lie she did and then later remembered "Dam-! They can catch me on that!" If JB knew she was going to testify to that, and he said he did, their advisers should have said "ya know, that can be verified if you were doing any work on work servers...." Should CA be brought up on charges for these lies and were I on a jury for her, I could not convict her. She is doing what mothers do.

JMOO- never any judgment intended to come across when my opinion differs from others, there's room for all of our ideas, thoughts, and feelings. :-)

BBM. Not this mother.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Polisano says other employees could use workstations but they would have to log in under their name. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:39 PM

Not a lot of note taking by the jurors, but this testimony seems quite clear. I have to think they're grasping it. #CaseyAnthony
by stevehelling via twitter at 1:39 PM

#JudgePerry issues 16 point order concerning closing arguments. "counsel shall avoid using derogatory terms".
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:39 PM

Polisano smiles when Frank George asks if she was a hard boss. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:39 PM

BREAKING!! Judge issues order regarding closing argument instructions for attorneys. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:38 PM

allycat1208
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
I don't see the point of this since I thought it was established that when the searches for chloroform were made there were searches for facebook within 20 seconds of each other and CA did not use facebook. Wasn't it verified that CA did not use facebook?

Leah0107
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Did CA Testify to remote access?

galerie
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Whoa - 15 minutes or 5 hours? Don't go contradicting yourselves now SA!

ETA: misunderstood. The computer logs itself off (sleeps) NOT the useraccount. Got it. Proceed.

thats correct, thanks, getting ready to state the same thing

cityslick
07-01-2011, 02:40 PM
RT @lilialuciano: Questions to mothers: Would you lie on the stand to save your child from death penalty? (I know my mom would...)

jharres
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
Asked if CA had the ability to work from home? Answer: NO, no remote access, nothing, had to be at the office. Kerang!

QueenD
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
CA can't use that excuse now. Witness just said against Company policy for another person to use another employee log in. LOL

Bon
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
so is anyone besides me wondering who they would pick if they were in Orlando and needed a defense attorney.......


Hands down, Bill Schaeffer :) He's my guy,I think he's adorable! And SMART :)

Debbie3223
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
:floorlaugh:

just trying out the smiley
i rarely use em
im gettin ready to laugh at the DT faces
specially the inmate

pinkfly
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
nails in the coffin........needles in the arm......

I have been here and followed the case for 3 years but not wanting the death penalty....

This trial has rehabilitated me......the accused is guilty of an offense so heinous that she does indeed deserve to be put to death for it.

stilettos
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
I am certainly glad this is not how most mothers think and act. Trying to protect your child is understandable; committing perjury to protect the murderer of your grandchild, is not.

As always, IMHO.

Never, ever, ever would I lie, cover or in any way stop my child from accepting the consequences for their actions. Raising law abiding citizens is hard work. Enabling your child right into and past murder? No way!

BCV
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/xcuql5.jpg

Suddenly the smartest person in the world is

21merc7
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
OOoh, could not log on from home, could only do so at work.

Hmmm, how does that work? :waitasec:

grepNYC
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
He is now asking questions about remote log in, etc. I didn't want to post those before... But they have this quite well covered.

Busted.

JustMeDeb
07-01-2011, 02:41 PM
JB - So this HIPPA you are talking about, that's a female HIPPO right?

KenoshaKid
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
I don't see the point of this since I thought it was established that when the searches for chloroform were made there were searches for facebook within 20 seconds of each other and CA did not use facebook. Wasn't it verified that CA did not use facebook?

This is putting the bowtie on the top. :)

JBounds
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
It would be ironic if cindy did this on purpose to screw kc. Like oopsy. Now I've proven that u did it & it scared me

Liz
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
I hope FG asks if it's possible for the employees to do google searches and such, since CA testified they were unable to do that at Gentiva.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
Polisano: #CindyAnthony capable, hard-working employee, not take 2-3 hour lunches. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:38 PM

Polisano: Computer wld lock out around 15 of non use. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:37 PM

Polisano: #CindyAnthony cannot log in thru laptop or VPN acct. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:40 PM

#JudgePerry "counsel shall refrain from expressing personal opinions."
by bobkealing via twitter at 1:40 PM

BetteDavisEyes
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
Baez looks nervous.

SuziQ
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
IMO, this lady liked CA and feels uncomfortable outing her lies.

rose222
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
I like this witness.

TakeNote
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
this supervisor of ca looks like she is about ready to cry

ChasingMoxie
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
All of us at Gentiva worked together in a work sharing program. We gave each other our passwords and covered for each other on a regular basis. If we had to leave the office for some personal business we just got someone to cover. We were all salaried and our manager knew what we were doing. That is why I enjoyed working there so much.

You were in violation of federal HIPAA regulations governing patient privacy, which include a mandate to maintain secure data access control (such as by implementing and enforcing a corporate password policy).

frogger
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
Cindy has got to be feeling really humiliated!

I bet she's feeling really really angry, but I'm not sure she's capable of feeling humiliated.

Amster
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
When ICA is carp breathing......she's upset. She is carp breathing, Big Time, this afternoon.

magnolia
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
I can understand a mother wanting to save her child (Casey) from the death penalty but lying under oath in a court of law is not the way to do that and frankly I find CA utterly despictable. How about getting down on her knees during the penalty phase and pleading for mercy.


I totally agree.

liltexans
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
If I remember correctly, this witness and Cindy were not just co-workers but friends. Awkward for her now!
by amandaoberwesh via twitter at 1:41 PM

Polisano said she can theoretically fix time card, but she didn't. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 1:41 PM

Prosecutor Frank George asks supervisor if she ever changed Cindy Anthony's time card. She says no. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:41 PM

strawberry
07-01-2011, 02:43 PM
@JudgeJeanine
Jeanine Pirro If it can be proven that cindy anthony lied under oath for her daughter its a crime and it's called PERJURY

hannahsnana
07-01-2011, 02:43 PM
RT @lilialuciano: Questions to mothers: Would you lie on the stand to save your child from death penalty? (I know my mom would...)

No! It's always been understood that my children are accountable for what they do. I'm blessed that they are all three good people.

Jstc4caylee
07-01-2011, 02:43 PM
I don't see the point of this since I thought it was established that when the searches for chloroform were made there were searches for facebook within 20 seconds of each other and CA did not use facebook. Wasn't it verified that CA did not use facebook?

Not fb, myspace, but yes there were access to MS at the same time, Cindy said sometimes she would jump up to let casey use the computer....
And, for whatever reason, the Pros. didnt really expand on the MS searches much.