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Nefriahaia
07-05-2011, 10:25 PM
I can't stop crying, it's like a nightmare. Can't someone do something??? There has to be some charges...what about all the people and agencies who searched? Th A's took donations, didn't they? Shouldn't they have to pay them back?

Schu7
07-05-2011, 10:31 PM
The A's took donations, didn't they? Shouldn't they have to pay them back?

That money is there's now. It is the same as giving money to some phony TV "evangelist" sadly. Money just thrown away to bad people. Maybe next time you listen to your own judgment, rather then the likes of say NG when donating money. But do not let this stop the good heart in you. Just learn........

tlcya
07-05-2011, 10:32 PM
I have no words to describe how heartbroken and downright furious I am that the system has failed so miserably.

JennaB
07-05-2011, 11:28 PM
I can't stop crying, it's like a nightmare. Can't someone do something??? There has to be some charges...what about all the people and agencies who searched? Th A's took donations, didn't they? Shouldn't they have to pay them back?

On JVM, a caller asked if it was possible for KC to be held financially liable for the taxpayers' money that went into the searches or investigation to search for Caylee and Mark Nejame said that it is possible that the she may be held financially liable for those searches.

beachbumming
07-05-2011, 11:36 PM
To think that so many people, who never even met Caylee, loved her more than her own mother. I can hardly bear that. Can you?

JennaB
07-05-2011, 11:39 PM
I feel sorry for Tim Miller, LE and the many people who searched for Caylee. Even if Caylee's death was an accident and KC and the family did cover it up, it was wrong to jerk many people around for that long.

mnegri1973
07-05-2011, 11:43 PM
As the court clerk was reading the verdict, I swear her voice at one point became strained and cracking as the NOT GUILTYs kept coming... did anyone else hear/think/get this?

Today was a sad day for Caylee, indeed.
Rest in Peace Little Angel, so many people tried so hard to bring you justice.

Totally caught that and also when she began reading at the very beginning, you can see where she scanned ahead and there was a slight pause when she saw the first not guilty listed for the first count. I knew by that little pause that the verdicts were going in the way of the DT and not the State.

Mel

RR0004
07-05-2011, 11:51 PM
To think that so many people, who never even met Caylee, loved her more than her own mother. I can hardly bear that. Can you?
My heart is broken today...but knowing that we loved her and that we fought for her in our own way brings me some solace. Thank you for your kind words.

nerdy
07-05-2011, 11:52 PM
I feel like there needs to be a hotline set up tonight for all the people who are completely questioning the meaning and purpose of life based on this.

I cannot leave this computer, I keep thinking I will wake up from the bad dream if I just keep thanking sensible posts or something.

There are a lot of other tragedies in life and a lot of other people in pain and a lot of unpunished murders - but this stands out as so symbolic of them all to me. If freaking CASEY cannot be brought to justice, how do we hope to bring down rogue dictators and criminal masterminds?! My whole life's work has been called into question today.

I'm not religious - I believe you act right in this life because it's simply the right thing to do. There's no consolation of "higher" justice for me. I don't believe KC will ever have to answer to a "maker" so to speak.

I need to walk away and live my life and try to do my work again, but right now I find fighting for justice really impossible - even though I believe it's in these moments that you need to dig deep and care the most.

I just had to get that out. I live alone and I'm sitting here with my anger and the shock is wearing off and I need to get my work done and I've lost my faith that fighting for justice makes one ounce of difference.

The jury took all of our collective sunshine away today.

xin
07-05-2011, 11:52 PM
She will never have Bella Vita. She will continue her criminal activities and be back in jail again like OJ.

She did it and she knows it.
Be interesting to see if she heads home to Hopespring or lands in a nice California condo. Surprise, surprise. Who will be her friend? Misfits and other criminals.

:(

mommyofthreekidz5
07-06-2011, 12:05 AM
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt325/mommysthings/sad.jpg




Saw this posted on my FB page :( Made me start crying all over again .

mysticrose
07-06-2011, 12:07 AM
I thought I would post this :

Oklahomans React To Casey Anthony Verdict

MOORE, Oklahoma -- The owner of The Moore Liquor Store is disgusted with the Casey Anthony verdict and wants everyone to know. He put up a sign minutes After the jury reached its decision. His opinion is certainly the talk of the town, but you don't have to drive to Moore to see it. Pictures of the marquis with profane language are all over the internet. The sign makes drivers do double take: Sell to a minor in OK- Jail. Kill one in FL, No problem not guilty. The owner the store, Bryan Kerr says his commentary is no different from thousands spouting their opinions online.

http://www.newson6.com/story/15030584/oklahomans-react-to-casey-anthony-verdict

http://kwtv.images.worldnow.com/images/15030584_BG1.jpg

mom23gr8kids
07-06-2011, 12:12 AM
I had been preparing myself for the last few days for that letdown emotional feeling. I learned all too well after the trial for the murderer of my dear friends that even when you get the conviction and the death penalty there is still this ultimate letdown because it is over there is nothing more you can do for your loved one that is gone. So i've been very busy trying to prepare myself for that feeling again......

and then this today. I simply can't breathe. How do we move forward? How do we go on? How can we possibly just let go when there was no justice? Nothing would ever bring back Caylee, just as it will never bring back my wonderful friends. However there is atleast some bittersweet solace in knowing that the one who took them so unjustly will no longer have their freedom. But knowing this person can walk the street, party, have friends, and make future babies; my brain can not even process. And my heart aches to the point I can feel it physically.

RR0004
07-06-2011, 12:16 AM
I feel like there needs to be a hotline set up tonight for all the people who are completely questioning the meaning and purpose of life based on this.

I cannot leave this computer, I keep thinking I will wake up from the bad dream if I just keep thanking sensible posts or something.

There are a lot of other tragedies in life and a lot of other people in pain and a lot of unpunished murders - but this stands out as so symbolic of them all to me. If freaking CASEY cannot be brought to justice, how do we hope to bring down rogue dictators and criminal masterminds?! My whole life's work has been called into question today.

I'm not religious - I believe you act right in this life because it's simply the right thing to do. There's no consolation of "higher" justice for me. I don't believe KC will ever have to answer to a "maker" so to speak.

I need to walk away and live my life and try to do my work again, but right now I find fighting for justice really impossible - even though I believe it's in these moments that you need to dig deep and care the most.

I just had to get that out. I live alone and I'm sitting here with my anger and the shock is wearing off and I need to get my work done and I've lost my faith that fighting for justice makes one ounce of difference.

The jury took all of our collective sunshine away today.
I think we're all questioning tonight, Nerdy.
When I heard there was a verdict, I rushed home...no one was there. I so wished I could have WSers by my side. At the time, I thought we would be relieved that justice was done, but no relief came...and I think that's what's sitting with us tonight. There won't be any relief in all this. We are grieving as if it was 2008 all over again. It will take time...but there will always be a sadness because Caylee's murderer has gone unpunished.

JennaB
07-06-2011, 12:16 AM
Totally caught that and also when she began reading at the very beginning, you can see where she scanned ahead and there was a slight pause when she saw the first not guilty listed for the first count. I knew by that little pause that the verdicts were going in the way of the DT and not the State.

Mel

I also noticed that. She seemed shocked by the verdict. I believe she and the other clerk believe that KC is guilty and I'm willing to bet she and the other clerk and others who worked in the courtroom as state/county employees are probably saddened by what happened today.

RR0004
07-06-2011, 12:19 AM
I thought I would post this :

Oklahomans React To Casey Anthony Verdict

MOORE, Oklahoma -- The owner of The Moore Liquor Store is disgusted with the Casey Anthony verdict and wants everyone to know. He put up a sign minutes After the jury reached its decision. His opinion is certainly the talk of the town, but you don't have to drive to Moore to see it. Pictures of the marquis with profane language are all over the internet. The sign makes drivers do double take: Sell to a minor in OK- Jail. Kill one in FL, No problem not guilty. The owner the store, Bryan Kerr says his commentary is no different from thousands spouting their opinions online.

http://www.newson6.com/story/15030584/oklahomans-react-to-casey-anthony-verdict

http://kwtv.images.worldnow.com/images/15030584_BG1.jpg
Wow! Speaks volumes. I couldn't believe today's verdict was the lead story on NYC news. I hadn't realized that the whole entire world was paying attention. Let them all respond in their anger at this injustice.

Mae Mae
07-06-2011, 12:20 AM
Thank you to everyone for this thread. Like everyone else here at WS, I am completly devestated!! I am so sick to my stomach. I can't believe that not ONE person on that jury could stand up for CAYLEE!!! NOT ONE!

My one hope is that Caylee is looking down and saying, "Well, my mom couldn't love me but look at how much I was loved by everyone else. I would say that is a win for Caylee. We do love you Caylee. I hate that you had to leave this earth so soon but atleast you only had to put up with the lies and betrayal for 2 years. You will always be protected now!!

This is the first case I have followed this closely and I never knew that I could become so emotionally involved. I'm almost as emotionally involved in the Kyron case but I will have to step away from that one. I can't follow these cases anymore. Kyron will never see justice either. What is wrong with people in this world??

RR0004
07-06-2011, 12:21 AM
I also noticed that. She seemed shocked by the verdict. I believe she and the other clerk believe that KC is guilty and I'm willing to bet she and the other clerk and others who worked in the courtroom as state/county employees are probably saddened by what happened today.
To be honest, it looked like Casey was expecting guilt on the 2nd count. Surprise, surprise!

JennaB
07-06-2011, 12:23 AM
To be honest, it looked like Casey was expecting guilt on the 2nd count. Surprise, surprise!

I meant that the clerk who read the verdict seemed shocked.

JennaB
07-06-2011, 12:28 AM
Thank you to everyone for this thread. Like everyone else here at WS, I am completly devestated!! I am so sick to my stomach. I can't believe that not ONE person on that jury could stand up for CAYLEE!!! NOT ONE!

My one hope is that Caylee is looking down and saying, "Well, my mom couldn't love me but look at how much I was loved by everyone else. I would say that is a win for Caylee. We do love you Caylee. I hate that you had to leave this earth so soon but atleast you only had to put up with the lies and betrayal for 2 years. You will always be protected now!!

This is the first case I have followed this closely and I never knew that I could become so emotionally involved. I'm almost as emotionally involved in the Kyron case but I will have to step away from that one. I can't follow these cases anymore. Kyron will never see justice either. What is wrong with people in this world??

During JVM, there was a part in which Jane was talking with people outside the courthouse and there was a woman from Pinnellas County who said she was summoned for jury duty in this case. She got out of it like others, but she said now after watching and following this case she wishes she could wouldn't gotten out of jury duty. She said that she would have been a hung juror. I wish a hung jury would have happened in this case even though there would have been issues with people complaining about taxpayers' money.

Also during NG, Sue Moss made the comment that the 12 jurors were all people who believe the world is flat. I agree with her on that. All of the jurors ignored forensic evidence and the holes in the DT's drowning story and the Kronk part.

lilpony
07-06-2011, 12:37 AM
I'm completely sickened, saddened and shocked by this verdict. I just can't believe what too place. It's unreal....
I can't believe that murdering *itch got off scott free.....:anguish:

Mae Mae
07-06-2011, 12:39 AM
During JVM, there was a part in which Jane was talking with people outside the courthouse and there was a woman from Pinnellas County who said she was summoned for jury duty in this case. She got out of it like others but she said now after watching and following this case she wishes she could wouldn't gotten out of jury duty. She said that she would have been a hung juror. I wish a hung jury would have happened in this case even though there would have been issues with people complaining about taxpayers' money.

Also during NG, Sue Moss made the comment that the 12 jurors were all people who believe the world is flat. I agree with her on that. All of the jurors ignored forensic evidence and the holes DT's drowning story and the Kronk part.

Unbelievable is all I can say!!

knicksgal1
07-06-2011, 03:03 AM
I am just devastated for Caylee and all those who truly love and miss her. I am in disbelief that justice was not served. To me, the prosecutors proved beyond reasonable doubt that Casey had the motive, means and opportunity. They proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey alone demonstrated a consciousness a guilt by lying and hiding from those who would know something was wrong during those 31 days. Linda, Jeff and Mr. George, Yuri and all the other investigators, Dr. G etc, and each of you will always be Caylee's angels. The only comfort I have tonight is knowing that Caylee can not hurt anymore. In my faith, she is being held and loved by unconditional and unrivaled Love.

I disagree with the jury verdict. I think they were wrong and did not understand what reasonable doubt really meant. I am angry that the other members of Caylee's family lied to protect her murderer or themselves at one point. But tonight I will not fall in to the trap of blaming the jury, the Anthonys or even the defense attorneys. I blame one person for the death of Caylee and that is the person who should have laid down her life for her child. May she eventually face the punishment she avoided in this life in the next. I hate that she will make money off the bones of her child. It sickens me.

Thank you for being here. Thank you for seeking justice for Caylee. Thank you for letting me vent.

kline
07-06-2011, 03:32 AM
Misscariage of Justice doesnt even begin to cover this.
Frankly I think some competantcy hearings are in order,Im not sure its wise to let 12 individuals who could reach this verdict walk around loose on the street.
So Caylee lays in her Grave without Justice and Casey is free to start looking for another musclebound mook with a backward baseball hat and resume her career as a Faux Lesbian pole dancer.
Sickening.

JB Fletcher
07-06-2011, 04:19 AM
In addition to being sick over the verdict, I find it absolutely maddening that nothing can be done about it. Nothing. No matter what anyone thinks, the verdict stands. No matter how many jurors may change their minds after hearing more of the evidence, the verdict stands. No matter how mad and angry people are, the verdict stands.

How can 12 people get it so wrong? Just baffling.

princesspjs
07-06-2011, 04:35 AM
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt325/mommysthings/sad.jpg




Saw this posted on my FB page :( Made me start crying all over again .

OMG - that is so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JB Fletcher
07-06-2011, 04:37 AM
She will never have Bella Vita. She will continue her criminal activities and be back in jail again like OJ.

She did it and she knows it.
Be interesting to see if she heads home to Hopespring or lands in a nice California condo. Surprise, surprise. Who will be her friend? Misfits and other criminals.

:(

She need not get too cocky about it all. She may have gotten away with murder in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion she is guilty. Wherever she goes in life, this will follow her just like OJ. She will be whispered about and shunned. She will be fodder for late night tv hosts everywhere. She will be ridiculed and made the brunt of jokes. She will be a pariah of society and known for her infamy.

rose222
07-06-2011, 04:42 AM
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before but did you all see Judge Perry while he read he verdict to himself before the clerk did? I was very very excited at that point but I frowned at his subtle expression. I'm sure Judge Perry feels miserable too.

Tugela
07-06-2011, 05:07 AM
In addition to being sick over the verdict, I find it absolutely maddening that nothing can be done about it. Nothing. No matter what anyone thinks, the verdict stands. No matter how many jurors may change their minds after hearing more of the evidence, the verdict stands. No matter how mad and angry people are, the verdict stands.

How can 12 people get it so wrong? Just baffling.

What more evidence? They heard all the evidence there was.

The problem was not that the jury was stupid or something like that, the problem was that there simply wasn't enough evidence to support the state's allegations.

JB Fletcher
07-06-2011, 06:38 AM
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before but did you all see Judge Perry while he read he verdict to himself before the clerk did? I was very very excited at that point but I frowned at his subtle expression. I'm sure Judge Perry feels miserable too.

I could not read him at all.

Mountain_Kat
07-06-2011, 06:43 AM
Devastating.

kline
07-06-2011, 06:48 AM
She need not get too cocky about it all. She may have gotten away with murder in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion she is guilty. Wherever she goes in life, this will follow her just like OJ. She will be whispered about and shunned. She will be fodder for late night tv hosts everywhere. She will be ridiculed and made the brunt of jokes. She will be a pariah of society and known for her infamy.
Couldnt agree more.

Broderick
07-06-2011, 06:52 AM
What more evidence? They heard all the evidence there was.

The problem was not that the jury was stupid or something like that, the problem was that there simply wasn't enough evidence to support the state's allegations.

In my opinion, there are plenty of threads to stir the pot and argue your position. By the thread title, this might not be one of those. Lots of people have invested years into this case. There is so much more evidence. If you weren't around three years ago, there is a wealth of information and research on this site. It might take a year of reading to get through it.

Broderick
07-06-2011, 06:53 AM
I could not read him at all.

He seemed to look twice. That's when I got a bad feeling.

princesspjs
07-06-2011, 06:57 AM
I'm not sure if anyone here has any knowledge of this, but someone posted this on another site and I thought I should share it here.


http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/archive/x539090034/Wendy-J-Murphy-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity

Wow! That's an interesting article....hmmmmm

Thanks for posting!

revampz
07-06-2011, 07:01 AM
Hi all from Australia.

I did not get too involved in this case. I did however one day sit down and read a timeline that either a websleuther or a blogger had put together. It took me hours and was excellent......very detailed.

I have never doubted that she was guilty and that no one else was involved. I was not sure however if it was an accident or deliberate. I thought she may have died after being knocked out with too much chloroform.......so mummy could spend time alone with the boyfriend, however I was swayed more towards deliberate after reading about the tattoo and the diary entry.

I am not only shocked but extremely angry and very very scared.

What is happening to the legal systems in western countries. The answer to that is political correctness is being allowed to overtake common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!

We had a case here on the weekend where a guy from new zealand came to live in Aust with 9 children in tow....he had escaped a gang he was in in New Zealand. He had been in Aust for 4 years and had never worked, therefore taxpayers are supporting his 9 children and he has never chipped in........in 4 years he has done 4 armed robberies, fraud, countless assaults......his visa was revoked and he was to be sent back to New Zealand.......the political correct brigade got on their high horses and stopped him being deported as it would cause distress to his mother and children if the gang got him......
never mind the distress he has caused to the people he has robbed and assaulted.!!!!

This is another case...........I am disguisted that the defense could make suggestions of drowning and incest and her fathers maybe involvement to make out there is reasonable doubt......there was no proof of any of this. Any lawyer can do this in any case, it should not be allowed.

The common sense of this case is simple. A little girl died, her mother knew she was dead, her mother did not report her missing for a month, her mother lied on numerous occasions about timelines, her mother was photographed partying and laughing when her daughter was missing!!!!! Yes I know that without dna and a cause of death, they can not determine if she was murdered, however her mother should be jailed and charged with something more than she has....maybe even manslaughter.

If we in the western world do not revert back to common sense over political correctness with not only the legal system (suings especially) but also politics, immigration and world affairs, we are in big trouble.

revampz
07-06-2011, 07:12 AM
Wow! That's an interesting article....hmmmmm

Thanks for posting!

Hey guys I just read this article and yes it is interesting indeed.....

Can you guys who have been studying this case for years read this and let us know if any of this is true or you have heard of it before...

ie laptop being reported as stolen by that name.
it being classed as sexual at the beginning.
her taking caylee somewhere in the middle of the night in may and june

KathrynL
07-06-2011, 07:55 AM
Hey guys I just read this article and yes it is interesting indeed.....

Can you guys who have been studying this case for years read this and let us know if any of this is true or you have heard of it before...

ie laptop being reported as stolen by that name.
it being classed as sexual at the beginning.
her taking caylee somewhere in the middle of the night in may and june

I am wondering about this too. I did not dive into it like many here did, I waited for the trial. It's hard to believe that LE wouldn't be all over it if what is insinuated in this article is true. That would be a huge case, with federal involvement/implications and the potential to put away some huge bad guys. IMO. I hope someone here can verify if there is truth to the points in that article.

Myself, dh and even my 13yo daughter are shocked, angry and saddened at this outcome. DD & I both experienced an ominous feeling-me on the 4th, her when I told her there was a verdict. She declined to watch with me because of her bad feeling. She listened to hers, I rationalized mine. I am going to be at loose ends for awhile, it's hard to me to handle what I see as a massive injustice and a reward for being a great liar. Wow.

luv
07-06-2011, 08:19 AM
YouTube - ‪Casey Anthony trial verdict TV host Julie Chen breaks down on air‬‏

suzihawk
07-06-2011, 08:20 AM
Evil is bad sold as good, wrong sold as right, injustice sold as justice. Like the coat of a virus, a thin veil of right can disguise enormous wrong and confer an ability to infect others. -- John Hartung

UKgirl
07-06-2011, 08:25 AM
Very sad. I was holding up for justice for caylee.

But I think the jury got it wrong. They used the law, used the judges instructions and didnt let their emotions come into the case. Its not right, in fact if I was one of those 12 people today I would be feeling very bad.

I hope she has to live with her guilt for the rest of her life, but she wont as she is a sociopath, a pathalogical liar. I am glad she is so well known, I dont think she will have the trust of any one she will meet in her life again.

I am so sorry caylee. I wish you could tell us what happened to you. xxx

redcar1
07-06-2011, 08:53 AM
Waking up this morning, I was hoping that a day later, I wouldn't have this 'sick, empty' feeling in my stomach as I did yesterday... However, I still feel so dis-heartened!

I am mad because I have always trusted our judicial system. So who, really am I mad at? Who exactly should I focus this anger on? My mind is unable to wrap around this verdict... Is it because I have been following this case ever-so-closely for 3 years? Is it because I truly felt that ICA was behind a sinister plan to eliminate her 'pesky' daughter?Should it be focused on JB, who by the end of the trial I couldn't stand even the sight of him? The jury who only heard probably half of the story? Who??? I wish I knew...

I just can't fathom that a jury could NOT see 'common sense' about WHO killed Caylee? If I was able to ask each one of them a question, I would ask if they REALLY believed that Caylee woke up that morning, snuck out to the pool, and drowned? And if they think that duct tape is the newest swimming accessory!!!!!!

I'm done ranting for now - but I will always have an empty spot in my heart for Caylee, knowing that true justice will NEVER be served for her murder. (Unless, somehow, somewhere, street justice is served. - just saying...)

JMO

Thank you to all fellow websleuthers for keeping this case up to date.

ella971
07-06-2011, 08:57 AM
Hard day yesterday...My DD and I cuddled in bed and finally fell asleep.I woke at 5:30 am after a nightmare that my daughter had to wake me from.My first thought was I bet ica is wide awake and so happy she can't stop smiling. I'm grateful I get to take my girl to get her braces on. I'm grateful for my friends here on ws. I will include all you in my prayers.Hugs HUGE ones.

RR0004
07-06-2011, 03:55 PM
I meant that the clerk who read the verdict seemed shocked.
I know...I think Casey was as well.

St3phanie
07-06-2011, 08:01 PM
I meant that the clerk who read the verdict seemed shocked.
I agree. It's so hard to move past this & it's even harder to think of her walking out of jail. :anguish:

blondgrl
07-06-2011, 08:24 PM
Hi- I'm new here! I am sick and heartbroken also! I needed to find a place where I can vent my feelings! :banghead::banghead: I'm still shocked over what happened yesterday. Caylee deserved justice and she didn't get any!!! I really hope society rejects Casey!!!! Is there anyway this can be re-opened by a higher court? Just my :twocents: I can't believe I live in a country where this can happen. :maddening: There is so much more that I could say, but I really just feel like crying!

princesspjs
07-06-2011, 08:31 PM
I would love to post a THANK YOU to Vivid Entertainment for "offering" and then withdrawing it within minutes with an awesome statement!

***going to find a link***

Here's their statement:
It has become obvious to us that Vivid fans, and people in general, want nothing to do with her and that includes a XXX movie. We want to make movies that people want to watch and we now believe that we underestimated the emotional response that people are having to the verdict. A movie starring Casey Anthony is not what people want to see.

Now...can Lifetime really come up to her now and give her an offer??? Not after a huge porn company retracts their offer! Vivid Entertainment rocks!! (Not that I watch XXX movies...no seriously...I don't, but if I did, I'd watch Vivid!!)

PlainJaneDoe
07-06-2011, 08:47 PM
Hi- I'm new here! I am sick and heartbroken also! I needed to find a place where I can vent my feelings! :banghead::banghead: I'm still shocked over what happened yesterday. Caylee deserved justice and she didn't get any!!! I really hope society rejects Casey!!!! Is there anyway this can be re-opened by a higher court? Just my :twocents: I can't believe I live in a country where this can happen. :maddening: There is so much more that I could say, but I really just feel like crying!

IMO, there are not that many people who will truly believe, "Well, she was found not guilty, so I guess she's not to blame!" I bet that most people Casey will deal with on a daily basis (if they're informed about the case) aren't gonna greet her with open arms & hearts. And even those who do believe she's not to blame for Caylee's death have been shown the other things that she has done wrong (pathological lying, stealing from family and friends, etc.). Plus I'm sure it's pretty clear to most people that she brought serious drama to the lives of a lot of individuals, including some she's never even met. Just saying that I still wouldn't want her as a friend/lover/romantic partner even if I thought she was 100% innocent of child abuse, neglect, manslaughter, or murder.

tlcya
07-06-2011, 09:43 PM
Hey guys I just read this article and yes it is interesting indeed.....

Can you guys who have been studying this case for years read this and let us know if any of this is true or you have heard of it before...

ie laptop being reported as stolen by that name.
it being classed as sexual at the beginning.
her taking caylee somewhere in the middle of the night in may and june

I have followed from day one on this case, my fascination with this case even predates my membership here.

This article, is full of as much "fact" as the defense's case. There are many rumors being reported as fact in this article.

I would not put stock in it. Thanks to WS I have had access to every doc dump, every photograph, every report, every witness statement, etc.

Those things reported in the article are not in the ws timeline for a reason. they are unsubstantiated rumor.

flourish
07-06-2011, 09:45 PM
I would love to think that Casey won't be getting any attention after this. But we know that's not gonna happen. I wouldn't think it would be possible for her to build a life outside with all her notoriety. Then I remember Karla Homolka. She raped and murdered her own little sister and at least two other teenage girls. She spent 12 years in a "prison," where she got to have fun birthday parties like these:
http://www.truecrime.net/karla/karlah5.jpg
http://www.truecrime.net/karla/karlah5.jpg

And little prisoner fashion shows:
http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/75/KarlaHomolka.jpg
http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/75/KarlaHomolka.jpg

Everyone thought that she'd never be able to blend into society after she got out of prison, particularly with those dead evil eyes of hers, but lo and behold, she has. Most accounts of her current life have her married, living with her 1-2 children, and studying law near her hometown in Canada.

There were online forums dedicated to predicting how long Karla would be out of prison before someone took her out, but no one ever did.

Casey Anthony is America's Karla Homolka. May they find themselves alone together in a locked room some day. One can hope....well, one could hope if one's hope and faith in humanity and justice hadn't been irrecoverably shattered yesterday.

Murphismo
07-06-2011, 09:45 PM
I really wish the mods would remove her picture from the front of websleuths with the NOT guilty sign. It makes me physically ill. Please post a picture of Caylee with Justice fo her and a link to local lawmakers and caylee's law link. Thank you.

DollyPardonMe
07-06-2011, 10:56 PM
Numb: To make numb; to deprive of the power of sensation or motion; to render senseless or inert; to deaden; to benumb; to stupefy.

Deprived of the power to feel or move normally.

Although we do not have the verb as such anymore, its past participle is alive and well, now spelled numb, literally "taken, seized," as by cold or grief.

I am grieving..I am numb. I lost a child yesterday...Caylee Marie Anthony..

theBritster
07-06-2011, 11:05 PM
I have to hope that she won't get out of jail tomorrow. I'm praying that HHJP will give her four consecutive one year sentences so that she'll stay in jail a little longer. The thought that she's going to get out tomorrow and start making tons of blood money makes me sick. I bet she'll find a way to never work an honest day.

Velouria
07-06-2011, 11:08 PM
I have followed from day one on this case, my fascination with this case even predates my membership here.

This article, is full of as much "fact" as the defense's case. There are many rumors being reported as fact in this article.

I would not put stock in it. Thanks to WS I have had access to every doc dump, every photograph, every report, every witness statement, etc.

Those things reported in the article are not in the ws timeline for a reason. they are unsubstantiated rumor.

Couldn't agree more, tl...

Wendy Murphy is waaaay off base here, IMO. The article is full of speculation, rumor, and innuendo.

Bobbarita
07-06-2011, 11:12 PM
Satan has triumphed.

Etilema
07-06-2011, 11:12 PM
I have followed from day one on this case, my fascination with this case even predates my membership here.

This article, is full of as much "fact" as the defense's case. There are many rumors being reported as fact in this article.

I would not put stock in it. Thanks to WS I have had access to every doc dump, every photograph, every report, every witness statement, etc.

Those things reported in the article are not in the ws timeline for a reason. they are unsubstantiated rumor.

And apparently the expert giving this opinion has had some questionable/controversial/sensationalistic opinions in the past.

Although I do have a number of questions about things that played out at the beginning that I have never heard a satisfactory explanation of, maybe that is to be expected when almost everything that is known is known by a person who will not talk.

On the other hand, I have dismissed things as ridiculous in the past, only to have the evidence show I was wrong...

Sammiejam
07-07-2011, 06:39 AM
Still sick, numb and horrified. I PRAY HHJP sentences her to consecutive years.

They better keep her in protection if they do. The chances of an accident are HIGH.

suzihawk
07-07-2011, 06:56 AM
I still wake up sick every morning wondering how such a horrible miscarriage of justice has happened in this country. I feel so devastatingly sad that everyone has failed Caylee.

Ricki
07-07-2011, 07:08 AM
I still wake up sick every morning wondering how such a horrible miscarriage of justice has happened in this country. I feel so devastatingly sad that everyone has failed Caylee.

Good Morning Suzihawk,
We all feel the same way. Unfortunately we can't seem to do much about the outcome.
We have not failed Caylee here. We were here every day for her going over everything involving this case. We can feel good that we all gathered for Caylees sake.
Do not include yourself in the ones that let baby Caylee down.

The Farm
07-07-2011, 07:15 AM
I think she is going to walk because of the three years she already served.
According to the court it is ok to kill your kid but don't lie to the police. I swear I will never get over this.

kyrasmummy
07-07-2011, 07:34 AM
My friend said yesterday that as upset as I am there is just nothing I can do.

She's right there is nothing I can do and it breaks my heart even more.

strawberry
07-07-2011, 07:38 AM
All these jurors keep saying she was a good mother? Who cares? So were Susan Smith and Andrea Yates before they killed...good mothers snap ALL THE TIME! I'm a good mother of a teenager and have to walk away to keep from slapping her silly at least once a week!

miss plum
07-07-2011, 07:51 AM
I don't even know if I should watch the sentencing this morning. I am so glum and anxious about her acquittal. At first I was numb, and I was relieved I was, but now I'm feeling worse and worse. I've only ever gotten truly engrossed in three trials: OJ, Scott Peterson, and this one, and only one of those three has resulted in a just verdict. It makes no sense.

I never thought for one second KC would walk. It never crossed my mind. All this talk about no evidence, etc. is mind-boggling. There was a wealth of evidence. The jury thinking they needed to know the exact cause of death is mind-boggling. They were told they didn't need to know and also that there was no way of knowing. It's hard to give them any credit for listening, or thinking, or deducing.

I don't believe she will have a good life out of jail, and I think she will pay for her crimes in many small and large ways, but it's not the same as a proper legal outcome.

I am also sick and heartbroken.

theBritster
07-07-2011, 08:32 AM
I don't even know if I should watch the sentencing this morning. I am so glum and anxious about her acquittal. At first I was numb, and I was relieved I was, but now I'm feeling worse and worse. I've only ever gotten truly engrossed in three trials: OJ, Scott Peterson, and this one, and only one of those three has resulted in a just verdict. It makes no sense.

I never thought for one second KC would walk. It never crossed my mind. All this talk about no evidence, etc. is mind-boggling. There was a wealth of evidence. The jury thinking they needed to know the exact cause of death is mind-boggling. They were told they didn't need to know and also that there was no way of knowing. It's hard to give them any credit for listening, or thinking, or deducing.

I don't believe she will have a good life out of jail, and I think she will pay for her crimes in many small and large ways, but it's not the same as a proper legal outcome.

I am also sick and heartbroken.

I feel exactly the same. I won't be watching her sentencing. My heart can't take it. I'd rather just hear it coming from all of you first. I really just was not prepared for this day to come so soon. I'm still not prepared. I'm truly worried that her life won't be as bad outside of jail as it should be. The thought of that makes it even harder to bare.

Hugs everyone. Today is a sad day.

GreenTeam
07-07-2011, 12:14 PM
I have felt shocked. I have felt outraged. But today is the first day I have felt like crying. Maybe I'm going through the stages of grief?

Watching the sentencing this morning . . . getting up early like I did during the trial, and seeing the courtroom, and seeing LDB and HHJP . . . well it made me feel such a sense of loss.

I will miss getting up early every morning to watch the trial, anticipating who might be testifying that day.

I will miss seeing LDB, JA, and FG doing such a wonderful job of questioning witnesses and presenting evidence and fighting for the truth. I admire them so much!

I will miss HHJP and his fair manner, his quirky expressions, and his impatience with JB and the DT.

I will miss hoping for and believing in justice for Caylee in this case.

I will miss being here with all of you each day, sharing our observations and our thoughts.

I will miss everything!

:tyou:

SATA
07-07-2011, 12:29 PM
This is proof our system doesn't work. How awful. How sad. And now will begin the triumph of that evil evil defense team. I will watch nothing these people are on. I bet Baez has a profitable interview with Geraldo lined up for Casey to set her up in her new life as a media star. This is so so very wrong.

But how can she possibly become a media star? EVERONE knows that she is lying, and lying and lying again - and what exactly CAN she say to any media outlet? She sure as hell is not going to tell the truth. So what would the point be in making interviews with this pathological liar?!
Furthermore, she isn't exactly LOVED. Who´d want to listen to and look at a person who drove around with the dead body of her toddler in the trunk of her car, while renting movies, having sex, dancing and partying? And to think she got away with this! People are disgusted.

smart blonde
07-07-2011, 01:15 PM
Today, during the sentencing, was the first time I have been able to post since hearing the verdict.

I have sat with my fingers poised over my keyboard, my mind racing, my heart broken, just overwhelmed with emotion, and not able to put my thoughts into words.

I am still devastated. I am so angry at Casey. I am so angry with the jurors. I am so angry with the system. I am so angry that there will be no formal Justice for Caylee.

Reading on other threads, I keep tripping over posts saying, "It's time to move on", and basically telling people to 'get over it', and that angers me, too.

I feel like Caylee has been murdered and tossed in the swamp all over again- only this time I know her, and it's even more personal.

I now hate Casey Anthony with a passion that frightens me. Someone I've never even met.

How is it even possible that she literally got away with murder?

How is it possible they found 12 people to sit on a jury that all lack common sense.

I just don't understand.

com n sense
07-07-2011, 01:24 PM
All these jurors keep saying she was a good mother? Who cares? So were Susan Smith and Andrea Yates before they killed...good mothers snap ALL THE TIME! I'm a good mother of a teenager and have to walk away to keep from slapping her silly at least once a week!

I don't consider her a good mother. What good mother NEVER supports her child?
They concluded that she didn't killl Caylle behind closed doors, but at the same time they THINK she was a good mother behind closed doors.
I don't get it.
The ones who said she was a good mother seen her with Caylee, what...maybe 3 times?
Except for Mallory & we will see if she ever gets her to babysit since she was such a good mother. Don't see that happening.
The jurors have no se:banghead:nse.

smart blonde
07-07-2011, 01:30 PM
I want to apologize, because I only read the title of this thread, scrolled to the bottom and saw there were only a few people on it, and hope it is a safe place to unload some of this overwhelming emotion.

I haven't read but just a few of the posts, but I plan to start reading as soon as I'm done writing this.

Having someone tell me it's time to get over it would probably kill me right now, because I really feel like I am grieving for someone close to me.

I have lost too many people in my life to unexpected death, so I'm aware of how grief feels.

I guess I never allowed myself to believe that an acquittal was even a possibility, so the verdict came as a complete shock.

Anyway, I'm grateful for this thread, and to have a chance to vent. I feel at least 5% better now. I guess it's a start.

Justin Tyme
07-07-2011, 01:45 PM
This is proof our system doesn't work. How awful. How sad. And now will begin the triumph of that evil evil defense team. I will watch nothing these people are on. I bet Baez has a profitable interview with Geraldo lined up for Casey to set her up in her new life as a media star. This is so so very wrong.

I agree with you as do so many others.
For the past three years ICA has been Baez meal ticket and he will keep her that way until she's no longer useful.

Media Star...:floorlaugh: What does she have to offer to the media now? The world watched the trial, not to watch ICA but to watch Caylee get justice. Which didn't happen. ICA has little value to the media now. Who would believe a word that came out of her mouth. No one wants to sit and watch this egotistical liar except the few people that didn't follow the trial from the beginning. I hope that people boycot any products that are sponsered during, before and directly after her appearances. What I can say is that they will have a heck of a security bill. I feel that no matter where she goes until she changes her name and her looks,(plastic surgery), she'll need security. She can change her name, change her looks but she can't change who she is. I think that her just punishment now would be to have to live with CA and GA for the rest of her life. Which we know won't happen.

buckeyefan1
07-07-2011, 01:52 PM
Matthew 16:26 should be a must read for Casey as she starts her RV ministry.

miabellamoure
07-07-2011, 01:53 PM
Satan has triumphed.

And apparently some might speculate that the devils advocates were in that jury room deliberating...just saying! :(

buckeyefan1
07-07-2011, 01:59 PM
US cities scheduled for ICA's RV minstry


Trickem, Lowndes County, Alabama
Trickem, Gwinnett County, Georgi



Spiderweb, Aiken County, South Carolina


Witch Lake, Marquette County, Michigan

Blood, Hillsborough County, New Hampshire
Bloody Corners, Portage County, Ohio
Bloody Springs, Tishomingo County, Mississippi
Fresh Kills, Richmond County, New York
Great Kills, Richmond County, New York
Kill Buck, Cattaraugus County, New York
West Kill, Greene County, New York
Slaughter, Kent County, Delaware
Slaughter, East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana
Slaughter, Sullivan County, Tennessee
Slaughter Beach, Sussex County, Delaware
Slaughter Creek, Stewart County, Georgia
Slaughter Landing, Madison County, Alabama
Slaughterville, Cleveland County, Oklahoma
Devil Canyon, San Bernardino County, California
Devil Town, Wayne County, Ohio
Devils Backbone, Connecticut
Devils Corner, Delta County, Michigan
Devils Corner, Pepin County, Wisconsin
Devils Cross Roads, Newberry County, South Carolina
Devils Den, Park County, Wyoming
Devils Den, Kern County, California
Devils Elbow, Colusa County, California
Devils Elbow, Grand Traverse County, Michigan
Devils Elbow, Pulaski County, Missouri
Devils Gap, Gosper County, Nebraska
Devils Ladder, Adams County, Idaho
Devils Lake, Lenawee County, Michigan
Devils Lake, Ramsey County, North Dakota
Devils Slide, Utah
Devils Tower, Crook County, Wyoming
Kill Devil Hills, Dare County, North Carolina
Red Devil, Alaska
Seven Devils, Avery County, North Carolina
Satans Kingdom, Addison County, Vermont
Satans Kingdom, Franklin County, Massachusetts
Hell, Livingston County, Michigan
Hell Hollow, Sullivan County, New Hampshire
Half Hell, Brunswick County, North Carolina
Little Hell, Accomack County, Virginia
Hells Corners, Trumbull County, Ohio
Merry Hell, Simpson County, Mississippi
Firetown, Hartford County, Connecticut

Florida Native
07-07-2011, 02:09 PM
Today, during the sentencing, was the first time I have been able to post since hearing the verdict.

I have sat with my fingers poised over my keyboard, my mind racing, my heart broken, just overwhelmed with emotion, and not able to put my thoughts into words.

I am still devastated. I am so angry at Casey. I am so angry with the jurors. I am so angry with the system. I am so angry that there will be no formal Justice for Caylee.

Reading on other threads, I keep tripping over posts saying, "It's time to move on", and basically telling people to 'get over it', and that angers me, too.

I feel like Caylee has been murdered and tossed in the swamp all over again- only this time I know her, and it's even more personal.

I now hate Casey Anthony with a passion that frightens me. Someone I've never even met.

How is it even possible that she literally got away with murder?

How is it possible they found 12 people to sit on a jury that all lack common sense.

I just don't understand.

I feel just as you do. I feel I need to try and move on for my sanity's sake, but telling others to 'get over it' is just wrong imo. This is very much a grieving process for me. I grieve for Caylee and I grieve for our justice system.

ETA: This morning my mother in law left me a voicemail to 'razz' me about the trial. Ha ha. She laughed. I will not even justify it with response. What is so funny about a baby being dead and no one paying for it?

miakelly
07-07-2011, 02:18 PM
deleted - think I posted something that is not allowed. Sorry.

BiancaS
07-07-2011, 02:23 PM
Just believe in Karma and also that everything happens for a reason. I have seen this so many times that I have faith, even when things seem so dismal. I'm not sure what the reason is, but perhaps it has to do with her parents finally seeing the truth. She will be out, she will show her true colors all over again, and she will lose her freedom forever (which will now be ever more sweet to ICA than before).

While it may not be as fast as we like, Karma will be paying a visit on those that have not acted honorably --- ICA, her family members that covered for her and forgot about Caylee, the defense team, and the jurors (I am afraid that they acted in their best financial interest and forgot about a sweet baby).

Caylee will live on in our hearts forever, those that should have been there for her will never have peace.

ladylurker
07-07-2011, 02:27 PM
I feel just as you do. I feel I need to try and move on for my sanity's sake, but telling others to 'get over it' is just wrong imo. This is very much a grieving process for me. I grieve for Caylee and I grieve for our justice system.

ETA: This morning my mother in law left me a voicemail to 'razz' me about the trial. Ha ha. She laughed. I will not even justify it with response. What is so funny about a baby being dead and no one paying for it?

ohhhh, how unkind (even if she didn't intend it that way - or if she did - in any case i don't mean any offense to your MIL). i think a lot of people simply don't understand why or how any of us could care so much. someone sent me a rather rude comic about implying people who care so much about this trial are ridiculous. they may not get it, and we can't do anything about that, but know that even if you are being razzed, people here support you and share your emotions.

blondgrl
07-07-2011, 02:35 PM
I couldn't bring myself to watch Casey in court today! Just to see her get to go home today or even in a few days. I also watched the trial everyday. My heart and chest feel so heavy with sadness for Caylee. I don't understand why some people are saying things like 'the jury has spoken' move on. or 'Get over it' What if we can't right now because we are still shocked and saddened by the outcome? I agree with what another person said on here, to boycott everything that has anything to do with her. In my opinion, I feel like those jurors were from another planet! :ufo:

Florida Native
07-07-2011, 02:44 PM
ohhhh, how unkind (even if she didn't intend it that way - or if she did - in any case i don't mean any offense to your MIL). i think a lot of people simply don't understand why or how any of us could care so much. someone sent me a rather rude comic about implying people who care so much about this trial are ridiculous. they may not get it, and we can't do anything about that, but know that even if you are being razzed, people here support you and share your emotions.

Unfortunately she meant it. It is more funny to her that I was 'wrong' than it is sad.

Thank you for your kind words.


I couldn't bring myself to watch Casey in court today! Just to see her get to go home today or even in a few days. I also watched the trial everyday. My heart and chest feel so heavy with sadness for Caylee. I don't understand why some people are saying things like 'the jury has spoken' move on. or 'Get over it' What if we can't right now because we are still shocked and saddened by the outcome? I agree with what another person said on here, to boycott everything that has anything to do with her. In my opinion, I feel like those jurors were from another planet! :ufo:

I feel the same. I told my family that I will never speak her name again.

DEPUTYDAWG
07-07-2011, 03:26 PM
Along with so many of you, I have followed this case for almost 3 years. Yes, I am grieving with this verdict and the thought of watching her cruising around just makes me sick.

HOWEVER,

I just got a dose of real life reality - an email from a friend to tell me a mutual friend's 20 year old daughter was killed by a drunk driver 2 nights ago. My friend's great girl was killed, and of course, the drunk driver just had a few scratches. Wow. My heart now hurts for a family (parents are divorced) that will grieve horribly forever...as one can't get over the tragic death of a child. (If one is normal, I guess I should state in the Casey Anthony thread!)

I will continue to follow and be active in the Caylee case, and follow what Casey, and the rest of the family does in the future...but not to the extent I did. They really don't deserve it, honestly.

Velouria
07-07-2011, 03:34 PM
I feel just as you do. I feel I need to try and move on for my sanity's sake, but telling others to 'get over it' is just wrong imo. This is very much a grieving process for me. I grieve for Caylee and I grieve for our justice system.

ETA: This morning my mother in law left me a voicemail to 'razz' me about the trial. Ha ha. She laughed. I will not even justify it with response. What is so funny about a baby being dead and no one paying for it?

:eek: I'm sorry that happened to you, Florida Native. What a creepy thing to do to her DIL...

Your MIL isn't named "Cindy" by any chance, is she? :)

DIXIECAT
07-07-2011, 04:45 PM
I believe that the wholesale dumming down of the public is a HUGE part of the problem with that jury. It was composed of apathetic people who apparently did not understand the instructions from HHJP and did not even ask for clarification-- which, of course, indicates that they were both apathetic AND IGNORANT. I am even more angry at the THs who keep saying, "but, they couldn't even prove what killed her!" People who don't understand the law should refrain from such stupid comments on air.... MOO

roseofsharon
07-07-2011, 04:49 PM
IMO -- a big rush to get the trial over with by July 4th!

Sustained
07-07-2011, 04:51 PM
Don't worry - what goes around, comes around

Albion
07-07-2011, 06:02 PM
Every now and then it hits me that this woman GOT OFF from being convicted.

Beggars belief really. What in the world happened this week? Its surreal.

wallflower67
07-07-2011, 06:11 PM
I'm still sick. Thought I was getting better. But not. I have a vacation this weekend. I hope I can let this go.

Kavya01
07-07-2011, 06:14 PM
Along with so many of you, I have followed this case for almost 3 years. Yes, I am grieving with this verdict and the thought of watching her cruising around just makes me sick.

HOWEVER,

I just got a dose of real life reality - an email from a friend to tell me a mutual friend's 20 year old daughter was killed by a drunk driver 2 nights ago. My friend's great girl was killed, and of course, the drunk driver just had a few scratches. Wow. My heart now hurts for a family (parents are divorced) that will grieve horribly forever...as one can't get over the tragic death of a child. (If one is normal, I guess I should state in the Casey Anthony thread!)

I will continue to follow and be active in the Caylee case, and follow what Casey, and the rest of the family does in the future...but not to the extent I did. They really don't deserve it, honestly.

I am so sorry :cry: I wish them courage and strength as they try to make it through. Life is just incomprehensible at times. May she R.I.P.

mom23gr8kids
07-07-2011, 06:24 PM
I feel just as you do. I feel I need to try and move on for my sanity's sake, but telling others to 'get over it' is just wrong imo. This is very much a grieving process for me. I grieve for Caylee and I grieve for our justice system.

ETA: This morning my mother in law left me a voicemail to 'razz' me about the trial. Ha ha. She laughed. I will not even justify it with response. What is so funny about a baby being dead and no one paying for it?

I totally understand how you feel. My Father told me this morning when we spoke on the phone that I was "way over the top" and "too emotionally wrapped up in this case" because "you don't even know these people". Ridiculous. I honestly think anyone who can see this case where an innocent baby was murdered and thrown away like garbage and then the murderer gets away with out consequences and NOT feel outraged well I truly feel that is more their problem then mine.

I'd hate to know that I was so cold and unfeeling and disconnected from the world that I only let things bother me if they directly related to me. Hey wait that would make us all a bit like ICA wouldn't it?

Leilei
07-07-2011, 06:38 PM
I followed this case since day 31. I didn't become a member here until right before jury selection, because, well, I'm shy and not as confident in what I thought I knew about the case as you all. My husband joined me in watching the trial when we could, even though he and my sons never really understood my obsession, not only with Caylee Marie's case, but with our other lost ones. When the announcement came that there was a verdict, I ran upstairs to tell him, and he came down to watch with me. Neither of us could breathe after hearing "not guilty" three times. I was shattered, couldn't even cry, though I cried during that 45 minute waiting period for the verdict. I was numb the rest of the day, then numb the following day when I had to return to work that evening. I didn't turn the tv on at all yesterday before work, but did follow here. One comment I heard at work yesterday was "wow, she didn't even have to try on a glove..." Indeed.

It's hard not speculating what was going through the juror's minds, from the minute they were made jurors. There are some very iffy statements out there, but I figured that was coming, because how could you say "not guilty" in ten hours without asking to at least get your notes or reviewing the media that was available? We all have our suspicions and speculation, and I agree with many of you.

I'm still sickened, and will continue to be, but you know what? She'll walk out on Wednesday, think she has it made, but oh no, hon, you so won't. Neither will the family, neither will any juror who is after the cha-ching. There are too many people who are boycotting the interviews, the books, the movies. That's a good thing.

Today was a better day, even with the sentencing. I am trying to move on from the first case of a murdered child that I have ever followed so closely. I will never forget her, and plan to do something either in our yard or around the house to remember her. Something small and lovely, just as she was. I wish that I could say that it will be a while before I get invested in another lost child case, but I know me and my heart. And they need people who care. Thank you, WS, for having me for the short time that I have been here. I'll still be around, reading, caring, thinking, and supporting.

Cavalier Attitude
07-07-2011, 06:44 PM
It's hard to 'realize' it's all over as far as 'Justice for Caylee', on earth. I am trying very hard to 'reason' my way thru the jury's decision(s). In the meanwhile....I am close to a young woman who is a single mother. Her little boy is going to be four in December. He was born with a TON of health issues and as a result, has some learning disabilities. Today, I became aware that she's struggling more than I had been led to believe; she has a low paying job, a little rental house, no family support to speak of. In Caylee's 'honor', I've vowed to 'do more' to help this young woman. She's a very gentle person, very kind hearted, and she's one of the BEST moms I've ever seen. A bag of groceries on my payday, a tank of gas when I can manage it for her, and more 'involvement' in noticing what she truly needs. She's a phenomenal person, I wish each of you could meet her!! Focusing this way will help ME more than it will this young mother, believe me. And Caylee will approve, I'm quite sure.

MaryAnn
07-07-2011, 06:54 PM
Along with so many of you, I have followed this case for almost 3 years. Yes, I am grieving with this verdict and the thought of watching her cruising around just makes me sick.

HOWEVER,

I just got a dose of real life reality - an email from a friend to tell me a mutual friend's 20 year old daughter was killed by a drunk driver 2 nights ago. My friend's great girl was killed, and of course, the drunk driver just had a few scratches. Wow. My heart now hurts for a family (parents are divorced) that will grieve horribly forever...as one can't get over the tragic death of a child. (If one is normal, I guess I should state in the Casey Anthony thread!)

I will continue to follow and be active in the Caylee case, and follow what Casey, and the rest of the family does in the future...but not to the extent I did. They really don't deserve it, honestly.

OMG, I'm so sorry for your loss. that is so tragic!

feddup
07-07-2011, 06:56 PM
It's hard to 'realize' it's all over as far as 'Justice for Caylee', on earth. I am trying very hard to 'reason' my way thru the jury's decision(s). In the meanwhile....I am close to a young woman who is a single mother. Her little boy is going to be four in December. He was born with a TON of health issues and as a result, has some learning disabilities. Today, I became aware that she's struggling more than I had been led to believe; she has a low paying job, a little rental house, no family support to speak of. In Caylee's 'honor', I've vowed to 'do more' to help this young woman. She's a very gentle person, very kind hearted, and she's one of the BEST moms I've ever seen. A bag of groceries on my payday, a tank of gas when I can manage it for her, and more 'involvement' in noticing what she truly needs. She's a phenomenal person, I wish each of you could meet her!! Focusing this way will help ME more than it will this young mother, believe me. And Caylee will approve, I'm quite sure.

I really admire single young Mothers like this who truly love their children and struggle. I hope if I ever know one, I am going to help like you...it is so sweet of you!! Just a bag of groceries, wow that is awesome because in today economy, one sure adds up. Or a tank of gas. I am sure it will mean alot to her knowing that she has an angel like you who cares. :tyou:

RR0004
07-07-2011, 07:21 PM
I have learned what grief is the hard way. What I'm feeling right now is too familiar. I cry for Caylee.

blondgrl
07-07-2011, 08:40 PM
My husband doesn't involved too much with cases on T.V. and thinks I go overboard sometimes! When he walked in from work the day of the verdict..I said they found her not guilty! He was shocked, sat down with me and we watched them replay it over and over. I don't want to repeat myself...but the people out there that are telling us, well that is the law, it was decided.....get over it...we have every right to question something, when we feel it is completely wrong and unjust. Maybe 100 years ago this judicial system worked but in my opinion I don't think it works now, or this would have never happened! :banghead::banghead: I was raised by a single mom (my dad passed away when I was 3) She did everything she could to provide the best for me. She put me first, before her social life. It's so hard to accept that every Mom is not like her. Lastly, this may be a bit personal but my husband and I have been trying to have children for several years and have not been successful as of yet. It makes me more upset to know this precious little girl was thrown out like garbage, when there are so many of us trying to have kids and are finding it difficult. Florida Native- I feel for you! My mil is awful to me most of the time, she would say something like that to me! I could go on about her but that would be a different thread entirely.

Cazzie
07-08-2011, 12:50 AM
I am still sick and heartbroken, but feeling a little bit lighter today; guess my talking to myself about "acceptance" (of things I cannot control) is working.

When the verdict was about to be announced, of course I tried to get onto WS, but alas! I went to msnbc (I think), and saw someone post "not guilty!" and I (of course) thought it was a joke (and groaned). :( My ISP was having trouble so I couldn't get to more comments there to find out if it was true.

I didn't follow this case as avidly and excellently as most WS-ers, but it was this case that caused me to find WS in the first place. Since I didn't watch the trial (and didn't follow the case completely over time before the trial), I guess I was confident that justice would prevail.

Heavy heart, but a bit lighter today. I am hoping that many of the civil suits against wish-she-was-ICA and CA are won. I do wish that I had viewed the trial so that I could come to some understanding of what was presented (evidence and testimony) so maybe I could see that there was a reasonable doubt. But I am so very skeptical. I think the jury got it wrong.

SIGH.

Where is the justice for Caylee??? With double jeapordy <sp?> being a basis of our criminal justice system, I guess there won't be any in the criminal courts, unless more evidence comes to light implicating someone other than I-wish-she-was-ICA. Maybe sweet Caylee's destiny in her recent lifetime was to be an angel on Earth and we all are supposed to learn something from her time here (which of course we did, well, I did...don't mean to speak for anyone else).

SIGH 2!!! :(

RIP dear sweet Caylee.

RR0004
07-08-2011, 02:11 AM
I just keep saying to myself that the verdict of "not guilty" does not mean she is innocent. I have a feeling that Casey's life will be he$$ on earth. JMO

PS- I don't think I could ever "get over" Caylee's pain.

AnotherGladysKravitz
07-08-2011, 02:20 AM
Along with so many of you, I have followed this case for almost 3 years. Yes, I am grieving with this verdict and the thought of watching her cruising around just makes me sick.

HOWEVER,

I just got a dose of real life reality - an email from a friend to tell me a mutual friend's 20 year old daughter was killed by a drunk driver 2 nights ago. My friend's great girl was killed, and of course, the drunk driver just had a few scratches. Wow. My heart now hurts for a family (parents are divorced) that will grieve horribly forever...as one can't get over the tragic death of a child. (If one is normal, I guess I should state in the Casey Anthony thread!)

I will continue to follow and be active in the Caylee case, and follow what Casey, and the rest of the family does in the future...but not to the extent I did. They really don't deserve it, honestly.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Cazzie
07-08-2011, 02:26 AM
I just keep saying to myself that the verdict of "not guilty" does not mean she is innocent. I have a feeling that Casey's life will be he$$ on earth. JMO

PS- I don't think I could ever "get over" Caylee's pain.
Wednesday nite on ABC Nightline, the only juror interviewed on that show (Jennifer Ford?) said that (bolded). And I found myself saying that to a friend who seemed to believe that the jury's verdict meant that she is (innocent).

My best coping skill in this case is to try (hard!) to find something positive and to think philosophically about what it means...what can I learn...what am I "supposed to learn"? IMO, some people (many people?) just are not fit to be parents...

SIGH 3. :(

Nova24
07-08-2011, 02:26 AM
Unfortunately she meant it. It is more funny to her that I was 'wrong' than it is sad.



I would lose total respect for her. At the end of the day there is still a dead baby thrown away like trash. There is nothing funny about that. I'm sorry that your MIL upset you.

Cazzie
07-08-2011, 02:30 AM
That post reminds me of my belief that it is completely twisted that IF Caylee drowned in the pool, MOST IF NOT ALL normal people would have called 911 in case she could be revived. And also, to report her death.

This did not happen in this case...and there are *3* adults, immediate family, well 4 if you count Lee (and I don't know if he was present) who DID.NOT.CALL.911 or even report it after the fact.

31 days. :(

ETA: Regarding CA (Cindy), she.should.be.prosecuted.for.perjury. I will be furious if she is not.

erinleigh
07-08-2011, 03:13 AM
for me its even worse after hearingthe jurors speak. now i can honestly say they not do their duty. they pulled a decison out of their rump and stuck wth it. juror #3 has me shaking. her lack of intellegence is astounding and if she couldnt comprehend the charges she should have asked for clarity or excused herself. i am so angry they did not convict of a lesser charge becasue they "didnt understand them" its criminal to blantenly disreagrd solid evidence. ie if they belived the drowning "confession" why didnt they at least carge her with neglience or manslaughter. THE DEFENSE GAVE YOU THAT MUCH AT LEAST TO CHARGE HER WITH YOU <modsnips> !!!

erinleigh
07-08-2011, 03:17 AM
and george was not on trial. its wasnt their right to decide to determine with no evidence he covered up "something" the more i hear the more i think their verdict was actually illegal. they way they came to their decision had NOTHIN to do with the law. in cases like these the state should have grounds to appeal. this is asinine these jurors should keep quiet becasue the are twisting the knife in my heart

lordmisrule
07-08-2011, 03:34 AM
I saw the title to this thread, and I must say - I am glad that I am not the only one who feels this way. I have been sick to my stomach for the last few days, ever since the verdict was read. I have watched the trial from Day 1, and I have to say - What the &$A##!! happened to this jury? The State had a strong case, their expert witnesses were unshakeable. Another thing I want to know is - if George, Cindy, and Lee don't believe Casey did this to Caylee, don't they want to know what really happened? Why are they not on a crusade to find out the TRUTH? Will Casey come out of jail and stay with her parents, you know, her dad - the one she said molested her and covered up the supposed drowning of her daughter? This is sick, just sick. And she'll end up making money and being in the limelight. Where is the justice? In a few years, will she write a book titled "If I did it"? I am boycotting all news related with this case - I will not be buying any books, watching interviews or etc. I hope the jurors, the defense attorneys, and Casey Anthony get NO monetary gain or fame from this. I feel absolutely awful for Ashton, LDB, Frank George, Yuri Melich, John Allen, Dr. G, etc because of the time, effort, and emotion they invested into this case. It wasn't about winning for them, it was about getting justice for a little girl whose own family didn't care one iota for. Sadly, there are no relatives to fight and speak up for Caylee.

Andy H.
07-08-2011, 03:42 AM
I saw the title to this thread, and I must say - I am glad that I am not the only one who feels this way. I have been sick to my stomach for the last few days, ever since the verdict was read. I have watched the trial from Day 1, and I have to say - What the &$A##!! happened to this jury? The State had a strong case, their expert witnesses were unshakeable. Another thing I want to know is - if George, Cindy, and Lee don't believe Casey did this to Caylee, don't they want to know what really happened? Why are they not on a crusade to find out the TRUTH? Will Casey come out of jail and stay with her parents, you know, her dad - the one she said molested her and covered up the supposed drowning of her daughter? This is sick, just sick. And she'll end up making money and being in the limelight. Where is the justice? In a few years, will she write a book titled "If I did it"? I am boycotting all news related with this case - I will not be buying any books, watching interviews or etc. I hope the jurors, the defense attorneys, and Casey Anthony get NO monetary gain or fame from this. I feel absolutely awful for Ashton, LDB, Frank George, Yuri Melich, John Allen, Dr. G, etc because of the time, effort, and emotion they invested into this case. It wasn't about winning for them, it was about getting justice for a little girl whose own family didn't care one iota for. Sadly, there are no relatives to fight and speak up for Caylee.

I am with you. My wife is with you. We understand and know. We also know that Casey will not thrive. People with such deep "problems" always undo themselves. It is a matter of time.

blondgrl
07-08-2011, 05:26 PM
and george was not on trial. its wasnt their right to decide to determine with no evidence he covered up "something" the more i hear the more i think their verdict was actually illegal. they way they came to their decision had NOTHIN to do with the law. in cases like these the state should have grounds to appeal. this is asinine these jurors should keep quiet becasue the are twisting the knife in my heart

I completely agree with everything you said! You are so right there was no evidence that he did anything-that juror said they could not convict Casey because "lack of evidence" which I don't agree with at all, but it's okay to say they "thought George had something to do with it" Where is the evidence for that? My blood is boiling.

shelbar53
07-08-2011, 05:40 PM
I am still heartbroken. I haven't watched HLN or In session since the verdict was read. I feel lost and at sea. I have been reading different sites on line but no TV. I have signed several petitions, sent emails to different broadcasting stations, PR companies and every site trying to get blood money off of Caylee. Tomorrow I will send emails to my state reps supporting the Caylee bill. I will include a web site to help you find who your rep is. Sadly I didn't know but I do now. I will also include what I sent to ABC, Barbra Walters and others. I didn't draft those letters but copied what others wrote with their permission.

"I do not know if this is fact or rumor, but I would like you to know, that I am committed to boycotting not only any show giving any time, attention, or money, to this family, but to any and all sponsors of the program. If there is any consideration of furthering what I perceive to be a travesty of justice, please reconsider. This is about more than drama and money, this is about the exploitation of a murdered child, while allowing those responsible for her death and the lack of evidence for prosecution, to profit financially."


"To whom It may Concern:
I am writing because I heard that you are considering a made for TV movie about the Casey Anthony debacle. I am imploring you, not to give this murderer a dime for her crime. The jury spoke, however they did not follow the instructions given by the court. The ink wasn't dry and the jurors are out making the rounds and making money. At least one of the jurors had a publicist when he got back home the same day. This is a crime on so many levels. Please give the little victim Caylee Marie Anthony some dignity and not allow this whole dysfunctional family and the stealth jurors to make a dime.
I will feel compelled not to watch and spread the word of the callousness of your network if this goes ahead. There has to be lines drawn in our society. At least we have the opportunity to do what is right. There actually are rights and wrongs. Please don't do the wrong thing. Don't be blinded by possible $ just this once."

Who is your Representative
http://whoismyrepresentative.com/
I feel helpless and hopeless.

JBounds
07-08-2011, 05:54 PM
for me its even worse after hearingthe jurors speak. now i can honestly say they not do their duty. they pulled a decison out of their rump and stuck wth it. juror #3 has me shaking. her lack of intellegence is astounding and if she couldnt comprehend the charges she should have asked for clarity or excused herself. i am so angry they did not convict of a lesser charge becasue they "didnt understand them" its criminal to blantenly disreagrd solid evidence. ie if they belived the drowning "confession" why didnt they at least carge her with neglience or manslaughter. THE DEFENSE GAVE YOU THAT MUCH AT LEAST TO CHARGE HER WITH YOU <modsnips> !!!
I agree. Their statements are not making sense. They said they believe Casey caused Caylee's death but there wasn't enough evidence to prove this. Well how did they come to this conclusion? It was based on the evidence.

Even when you see people trying to defend the verdict, they say I think Casey probably caused the death of Caylee but...

What's sad is that the Jurors basically used a theory about accidental drowning that Baez never mentioned again because there was ZERO EVIDENCE, and the Jurors used speculation that a drowning might have occurred to reach their verdict. Who lies to cover up an accidental drowning? It's the dumbest thing I have heard so far and the Jurors bought it and used it to find Casey not guilty. That's just stupid. This Juror doesn't make any sense. Her whole interview was just frightening and lacked any coherent dialogue.

CentralFLMama
07-09-2011, 09:09 AM
I havent had the emotional energy to post since the verdict. I am SO ANGRY and SO SAD. I cannot believe this has happened. The jurors I have seen so far appear to be lacking in intelligence. When juror #3 complained about not being able to "play" in the hotel pools I just wanted to scream. Did they see the same trial we did? I just cannot wrap my mind around all of this. My family and friends say oh there is nothing you can do, its over, get over it. But I just cant yet. I am just sick.

miss plum
07-09-2011, 09:24 AM
I have finally had one small slightly cheering thought, and it's this: the Petersons will be gnashing their teeth that Scott didn't get this caliber of jury.

It's a very small consolation, but it's still something.

ItalinBella27
07-09-2011, 09:55 AM
I agree. Their statements are not making sense. They said they believe Casey caused Caylee's death but there wasn't enough evidence to prove this. Well how did they come to this conclusion? It was based on the evidence.

Even when you see people trying to defend the verdict, they say I think Casey probably caused the death of Caylee but...

What's sad is that the Jurors basically used a theory about accidental drowning that Baez never mentioned again because there was ZERO EVIDENCE, and the Jurors used speculation that a drowning might have occurred to reach their verdict. Who lies to cover up an accidental drowning? It's the dumbest thing I have heard so far and the Jurors bought it and used it to find Casey not guilty. That's just stupid. This Juror doesn't make any sense. Her whole interview was just frightening and lacked any coherent dialogue.


I havent had the emotional energy to post since the verdict. I am SO ANGRY and SO SAD. I cannot believe this has happened. The jurors I have seen so far appear to be lacking in intelligence. When juror #3 complained about not being able to "play" in the hotel pools I just wanted to scream. Did they see the same trial we did? I just cannot wrap my mind around all of this. My family and friends say oh there is nothing you can do, its over, get over it. But I just cant yet. I am just sick.

Many of us are quite disturbed over this verdict. Marsha Clark wrote this piece, and it gives you an idea about the sequestration process and what occurs. I hope this helps you.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/08/casey-anthony-trail-the-sequestered-jury-fell-prey-to-idiotic-groupthink.html

Nefriahaia
07-09-2011, 10:02 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zi5t08.jpg

Annie
07-09-2011, 10:03 AM
One thing that is bothering me tremendously is the juror who has several offers of $50,000 but is waiting for more. This is blood money. He didn't seem to care about what happened to little Caylee, just get out and get that money. I wish that the people making the offers would withdraw them. Just hearing what he has already said is more than enough.

cluciano63
07-09-2011, 10:42 AM
One thing that is bothering me tremendously is the juror who has several offers of $50,000 but is waiting for more. This is blood money. He didn't seem to care about what happened to little Caylee, just get out and get that money. I wish that the people making the offers would withdraw them. Just hearing what he has already said is more than enough.

He may not get his money. The public is getting an idea of what happened with the jury from the ones who are speaking out already. His story loses value with each passing day, IMO.

cloud9
07-09-2011, 11:15 AM
It's been days since the NOT GUILTY verdict, and I still am having trouble getting past this. TERRIBLE jury!!!!! I still come here to see how all of you are doing. But I have to find a way to get past this. My heart goes out to all LE, JA, LDB, FG the experts, the searchers and everyone who worked so hard for Caylee.THREE YEARS, and for what? ICA will declare bankruptcy and live her "good life."

I am completely disgusted and everytime I remember that Caylee was duct taped and thrown in the dark, damp woods I cry.

To me, this is the ULTIMATE example of what our world has become, and I don't fit in to it!

I pray we all find a way to move on. Yes, I know there are so many more children who have been murdered. Yes. They matter as much as Caylee. But this verdict has left me feeling I should never follow another of these tragic cases, because the end result is no justice!

Nefriahaia
07-09-2011, 11:25 AM
As far as these greedy, morally bankrupt folks making scads of money off this situation?:loser:


"Better is a dry morsel and quietness with it
Than a house full of feasting with strife." Proverbs 17:1


I have a feeling that their lives will be filled with all the strife they can handle, and more. :twocents:

feddup
07-09-2011, 11:32 AM
I saw the title to this thread, and I must say - I am glad that I am not the only one who feels this way. I have been sick to my stomach for the last few days, ever since the verdict was read. I have watched the trial from Day 1, and I have to say - What the &$A##!! happened to this jury? The State had a strong case, their expert witnesses were unshakeable. Another thing I want to know is - if George, Cindy, and Lee don't believe Casey did this to Caylee, don't they want to know what really happened? Why are they not on a crusade to find out the TRUTH? Will Casey come out of jail and stay with her parents, you know, her dad - the one she said molested her and covered up the supposed drowning of her daughter? This is sick, just sick. And she'll end up making money and being in the limelight. Where is the justice? In a few years, will she write a book titled "If I did it"? I am boycotting all news related with this case - I will not be buying any books, watching interviews or etc. I hope the jurors, the defense attorneys, and Casey Anthony get NO monetary gain or fame from this. I feel absolutely awful for Ashton, LDB, Frank George, Yuri Melich, John Allen, Dr. G, etc because of the time, effort, and emotion they invested into this case. It wasn't about winning for them, it was about getting justice for a little girl whose own family didn't care one iota for. Sadly, there are no relatives to fight and speak up for Caylee.

That is the worst for me to deal with. NO relatives to speak up for Caylee and to show outrage at the person so obviously responsible for her death:(

I dont understand who would buy a book writen by her. No interest in it. She lies too much.

I wish at least GA would take a stand and come out and say he intends to disown his daughter and how much he misses Caylee. He saw enogh proof in that courtroom not to mention how she treated him. I do not believe he had ANYTHING to do with it. yes, he made some mistakes but at the time I forgive him. It was a horrendous, confusing time but now, 3 yrs later GA needs to speak out for Caylee IMO
I dont think CA will. She lied and tried to cover up for the chloroform search, etc. I amshocked a Grandmother would do this. :(

GreenTeam
07-09-2011, 11:40 AM
I feel like it's become "upside down world." The verdict and the jury make no sense. I can't wrap my mind around it. :waitasec: :banghead: :maddening:

I just have to remind myself that the wonderful prosecutors, LE, experts, judge, God, the dogs, and all of us know the truth! :heartbeat:

feddup
07-09-2011, 11:54 AM
Wednesday nite on ABC Nightline, the only juror interviewed on that show (Jennifer Ford?) said that (bolded). And I found myself saying that to a friend who seemed to believe that the jury's verdict meant that she is (innocent).

My best coping skill in this case is to try (hard!) to find something positive and to think philosophically about what it means...what can I learn...what am I "supposed to learn"? IMO, some people (many people?) just are not fit to be parents...

SIGH 3. :(

I am trying to watch more positive things, too. Last night I watched a show on young women (not dangerous ) in prison who are allowed to have their babies with them in prison. The babies looked healthy and happy. They are taught parenting skills, etc. I think there will be a good outcome for these babies. I thought it was a good, positive program.
One of the requirements was the Mothers had to have sentences that only lasted 2 yrs or less. No babies can stay there for over 2 yrs. And I think once theyre out they get ongoing counseling and follow up, they liked the program. The babies were just adorable and seemed so happy and well adjusted!
These young women were pregnant when they came to prison and I think if their babies wouldve been taken away, they couldnt have bonded. It seems like such a good program. These young women had much worse family lives than Casey Anthony I am so sick of her whining.....I think if anything Casey, as a young single Mother had it pretty good.

Nefriahaia
07-09-2011, 12:20 PM
I dont think CA will. She lied and tried to cover up for the chloroform search, etc. I amshocked a Grandmother would do this. :(


Yeah, such a devoted and loving grandmother. NOT.
All that acting devastated, the breaking down so dramatically on the stand....she makes me want to hurl. I am ALMOST grateful that Caylee did not have to grow up in that "family". Sad and twisted as that is to say.

RNmomnFL
07-09-2011, 12:48 PM
I remain astonished at the outcome of the trial. I feel that the PT met the burden of proof with sufficient evidence for conviction presented throughout. In addition, in my opinion, closing arguments per the PT were brilliant and really showed the defendant’s true colors (using her own voice too) with a lasting negative impression. When the state finished, I was confident that CMA would be convicted of serious charges. Conversely, I’m unable to recall anything enlightening from the DT. It seems to me that they failed in their efforts to cast reasonable doubt. I’ve been wondering (in a paranoid, conspiracy theory way) if the jury instructions were erroneous….remember those were finalized last minute. I’m grasping at straws. Still so stunned.
Somehow, I’ll have to come to terms with the verdict. It’s like working through the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

kelian36
07-09-2011, 01:19 PM
I feel like it's become "upside down world." The verdict and the jury make no sense. I can't wrap my mind around it. :waitasec: :banghead: :maddening:

I just have to remind myself that the wonderful prosecutors, LE, experts, judge, God, the dogs, and all of us know the truth! :heartbeat:

GreenTeam,
That's exactly how I feel. The world is upside down and yes, I still feel like I've been shaken to the core. Emotionally I haven't healed from this yet.

I don't understand how this jury reached it's verdict! :banghead: I keep asking myself (and my sons :) ) if I missed something. Did the state or the defense say something that I radically misunderstood?

My son's keep answering -No, mom. The nation is shocked at the verdict.

How could the jurors allow a child killer to walk?

Poor little Caylee. Loved by so many that didn't know her.

lordmisrule
07-09-2011, 05:39 PM
It's been days since the NOT GUILTY verdict, and I still am having trouble getting past this. TERRIBLE jury!!!!! I still come here to see how all of you are doing. But I have to find a way to get past this. My heart goes out to all LE, JA, LDB, FG the experts, the searchers and everyone who worked so hard for Caylee.THREE YEARS, and for what? ICA will declare bankruptcy and live her "good life."

I am completely disgusted and everytime I remember that Caylee was duct taped and thrown in the dark, damp woods I cry.

To me, this is the ULTIMATE example of what our world has become, and I don't fit in to it!

I pray we all find a way to move on. Yes, I know there are so many more children who have been murdered. Yes. They matter as much as Caylee. But this verdict has left me feeling I should never follow another of these tragic cases, because the end result is no justice!

I know, I completed agree. It does help to come on web boards like this and know that I am not alone in my outrage and disgust. The verdict was made so much worse because we all know that it will now be swept under the rug, that nobody will fight for Caylee, all the relatives will now be focusing on trying to pacify Casey and getting on her good side, pretending Caylee never happened. People involved in the case will be trying to extort as much money as possible.

ella971
07-09-2011, 06:08 PM
Nothing to say other than thank You all for posting your feelings. I feel less alone. Prayers and hugs to all of us.

Leila
07-09-2011, 10:20 PM
I can't believe I'm watching this! Geraldo is on...........he began with an interview with JB and CM, taped earlier after the verdict. As can be expected, Geraldo is praising the efforts of JB and CM and their brilliant lawyering.

CM stated that he believed from the beginning that KC was innocent of murdering her child. JB said he's known from the beginning that she was innocent. Then they both criticized the state's case.

Geraldo just got into a shouting match with Kimberly Guilfoyle, with Kimberly stating that she believe's the state had a strong case.

Geraldo has an exclusive. The defense team is taking somewhere and she will be getting mental health help and recover from her ordeal.

Geraldo is defending KC. :banghead:

angeleleven
07-09-2011, 10:22 PM
I can't believe I'm watching this! Geraldo is on...........he began with an interview with JB and CM, taped earlier after the verdict. As can be expected, Geraldo is praising the efforts of JB and CM and their brilliant lawyering.

CM stated that he believed from the beginning that KC was innocent of murdering her child. JB said he's known from the beginning that she was innocent. Then they both criticized the state's case.

Geraldo just got into a shouting match with Kimberly Guilfoyle, with Kimberly stating that she believe's the state had a strong case.

Geraldo has an exclusive. The defense team is taking somewhere and she will be getting mental health help and recover from her ordeal.

Geraldo is defending KC. :banghead:

I watched about ten minutes and had to turn it off. I cannot stand Geraldo. I think I'm going to email him tonight. Kimberly is the only descent thing on his program. I like her. I will never watch his program again. NEVER.

angeleleven
07-09-2011, 10:24 PM
Leila.....did you see Judge Jeanine before his program. She was awesome.

Bon
07-09-2011, 10:30 PM
Found where to post this:

I don't know where to put this post so I'll start here. Something must be wrong with me because I still honestly cannot believe Casey is walking free. I can't comprehend how this happened. How did these 12 jurors come to this conclusion? Charged with nothing but lying to LE...Poor Yuri was in the balcony waiting to watch her go down.... I am still sick over it.....my stomach is in knots. I cannot believe they found her not guilty and she walks out a free woman. And no one is held responsible for Caylee's death.Feels like it's a bad dream and I will wake up from it....is anyone else still struggling with this? I know I need to move on but it's just haunting me............Casey, Jose and Chaney M and Cindy sure get the last laugh on this one........... a murderer walks free...


ETA:Darn it, I missed both programs :( Might be better off not seeing Geraldo :)

angeleleven
07-09-2011, 10:35 PM
Found where to post this:

I don't know where to put this post so I'll start here. Something must be wrong with me because I still honestly cannot believe Casey is walking free. I can't comprehend how this happened. How did these 12 jurors come to this conclusion? Charged with nothing but lying to LE...Poor Yuri was in the balcony waiting to watch her go down.... I am still sick over it.....my stomach is in knots. I cannot believe they found her not guilty and she walks out a free woman. And know one is held responsible for Caylee's death.Feel like it's a bad dream and I will wake up from it....is anyone else still struggling with this? I know I need to move on but it's just haunting me............Casey, Jose and Chaney M and Cindy sure get the last laugh on this one........... a murderer walks free...


ETA:Darn it, I missed both programs :( Might be better off not seeing Geraldo :)


You're not alone. I feel exactly the same way. It's depressing.
I wish everyone could do as Ashton suggested, and just not watch or pay any attention to Casey. He said that would be the 2nd best punishment we could give her. She craves attention. If everyone would just ignore her, it would devastate her.

gramcracker
07-09-2011, 10:37 PM
I too was feeling sad and stunned and heartbroken but it will get better. I promise. throw it out to the Universe and listen for the response

gotta preface this by saying that there are a WHOLE LOTTA hayseed drivers where I live. not a single day goes by that they don't turn w/o signaling or they signal for blocks but don't turn. someone ALWAYS pulls into the buffer zone between me and the car ahead of me. they won't enter the intersection when turning left - they stay behind the crosswalk so it takes 3-4 traffic light cycles before they/I can turn left, IF there's a lucky break in oncoming traffic. they dive into the parking space I'm waiting for another car to finish vacating, w/ my blinker on FGS. my absolute fave is the 15-20 MPH under the speed limit. 35-40 in a 55 is the norm and, I kid you not, where the limit is 25 someone is surely doing 10. I grit my teeth and try to deal w/ it because, really, what can ya do, right?

after the verdicts last week I used the horn all freaking day, more times than I've honked in the 5 years since I bought the car. I wasn't aggressive, I didn't speed, I didn't crowd other drivers. but I just was NOT in a place where I was gonna tolerate the usual BS, not that day

it required a real effort not to be impatient and snappish around other people. I felt sick to my stomach and had a pounding headache most of the day. continued to feel irritated even tho the stomach upset and headache faded. then I began to realize that the outrage we express here at WS was not happening just here, but every.where.

I had to take some quiet moments and examine my attitude. I've come to realize that the verdicts were a blessing in disguise, because there is no PC in KC's future and she is definitely being released to general population. if she requires special treatment and needs to be protected from others, then she's gonna have to pay for it. (altho perhaps a few burly bruisers will agree to take it out in trade). either way, she's footing the bill instead of the taxpayers. she will be shouted at, shouted down and called out everywhere she goes. she has been sentenced to be released into the court of public opinion. HA! me honking my horn will be the very least of her worries

she and her boys are riding the crest of a very small wave in their favor ... and a karmic tsunami is headed their way

Bon
07-09-2011, 10:38 PM
You're not alone. I feel exactly the same way. It's depressing.
I wish everyone could do as Ashton suggested, and just not watch or pay any attention to Casey. He said that would be the 2nd best punishment we could give her. She craves attention. If everyone would just ignore her, it would devastate her.

angeleleven, it is comforting to at least know I am not alone in my feelings and you and others here feel as I do...and I can freely express it here :)
We can vent here and help each other get through this....

Velouria
07-09-2011, 10:40 PM
I can't believe I'm watching this! Geraldo is on...........he began with an interview with JB and CM, taped earlier after the verdict. As can be expected, Geraldo is praising the efforts of JB and CM and their brilliant lawyering.

CM stated that he believed from the beginning that KC was innocent of murdering her child. JB said he's known from the beginning that she was innocent. Then they both criticized the state's case.

Geraldo just got into a shouting match with Kimberly Guilfoyle, with Kimberly stating that she believe's the state had a strong case.

Geraldo has an exclusive. The defense team is taking somewhere and she will be getting mental health help and recover from her ordeal.

Geraldo is defending KC. :banghead:

Oh yes, good ol' Jerry Rivers. If by "brilliant lawyering" he means unethical, sleazy, slandering, any means to an end to get your client off, then yes, those two are "brilliant" all right.

Gee, where's a skinhead with a chair when you need one? :p

ndrew
07-09-2011, 10:45 PM
[QUOTE=Bon;6885888]Found where to post this:

I don't know where to put this post so I'll start here. Something must be wrong with me because I still honestly cannot believe Casey is walking free. I can't comprehend how this happened. How did these 12 jurors come to this conclusion? Charged with nothing but lying to LE...Poor Yuri was in the balcony waiting to watch her go down.... I am still sick over it.....my stomach is in knots. I cannot believe they found her not guilty and she walks out a free woman. And know one is held responsible for Caylee's death.Feel like it's a bad dream and I will wake up from it....is anyone else still struggling with this? I know I need to move on but it's just haunting me............Casey, Jose and Chaney M and Cindy sure get the last laugh on this one........... a murderer walks free...

Bon I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. My daughter and I both feel the same way. I have a wonderful family and a very full life but I am so haunted by case. Casey got her day in court but Caylee did not. Today I planted a new rose bush in my garden in memory of Caylee. Every morning when I wake the first thing that hits me in the face is that Casey is going free and not paying for her terrible crime.

I know Jose thinks he did a great thing because he saved her from the death penalty, but he has to know that she is not being held accountable for what she did. It is one thing to not believe in the death penalty , but to believe someone should not pay for their crime is just wrong.

I think time will help us heal from this terrible miscarriage of justice - so I would encourage you to do something in memory of Caylee no matter how small. I have been trying to come up with an idea that Websleuth memebers could do as a group - any ideas?

Bon
07-09-2011, 10:46 PM
I can't believe I'm watching this! Geraldo is on...........he began with an interview with JB and CM, taped earlier after the verdict. As can be expected, Geraldo is praising the efforts of JB and CM and their brilliant lawyering.

CM stated that he believed from the beginning that KC was innocent of murdering her child. JB said he's known from the beginning that she was innocent. Then they both criticized the state's case.

Geraldo just got into a shouting match with Kimberly Guilfoyle, with Kimberly stating that she believe's the state had a strong case.

Geraldo has an exclusive. The defense team is taking somewhere and she will be getting mental health help and recover from her ordeal.

Geraldo is defending KC. :banghead:

Guess CM forgot he made this statment:

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life." J. Cheney Mason (before he joined Casey Anthony's defense team)

plastics
07-09-2011, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE=Bon;6885888]Found where to post this:


I know Jose thinks he did a great thing because he saved her from the death penalty, but he has to know that she is not being held accountable for what she did. It is one thing to not believe in the death penalty , but to believe someone should not pay for their crime is just wrong.


Couldn't agree more.

curiositycat
07-09-2011, 10:48 PM
I am upset over Geraldo also. He is so biased for JB. Has been from the day he took the case. He made up his mind to support JB and he didn't care about the facts. I will never watch Fox again. Much less Geraldo! I have had it.

Nefriahaia
07-09-2011, 10:50 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/29kz6mt.jpg

plastics
07-09-2011, 10:51 PM
Does anyone else have a hard time watching the verdict? I feel sick, angry, and I find myself shaking my head every time I see it on television. I don't think I can watch it anymore.

Bon
07-09-2011, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE=Bon;6885888]Found where to post this:



Bon I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. My daughter and I both feel the same way. I have a wonderful family and a very full life but I am so haunted by case. Casey got her day in court but Caylee did not. Today I planted a new rose bush in my garden in memory of Caylee. Every morning when I wake the first thing that hits me in the face is that Casey is going free and not paying for her terrible crime.

I feel the exact same way (haunted) and what a beautiful tribute for little Caylee. :)

outlandishone
07-09-2011, 10:57 PM
I also feel the same way. I still just cannot believe it!

I just keep saying "How can 12 people agree on this?"

It's like someone is telling me 2+2=5 and I keep saying no it's 4!!!

My brain just cannot accept this ... it's just so wrong :(

Leila
07-09-2011, 10:59 PM
I watched about ten minutes and had to turn it off. I cannot stand Geraldo. I think I'm going to email him tonight. Kimberly is the only descent thing on his program. I like her. I will never watch his program again. NEVER.

I ended up turning it off too. It makes me so mad! I remember that before he became a member of the DT, CM was saying KC is guilty. Now, of course, he knew from the beginning that she was not guilty. I just wish someone would play back his words to him!

I've always liked Kimberly Guilfoyle...............she's not afraid to engage GR and point out his errors.

Bon
07-09-2011, 11:01 PM
I also feel the same way. I still just cannot believe it!

I just keep saying "How can 12 people agree on this?"

It's like someone is telling me 2+2=5 and I keep saying no it's 4!!!

My brain just cannot accept this ... it's just so wrong :(

Even George said 1 + 1=2

Leila
07-09-2011, 11:03 PM
Leila.....did you see Judge Jeanine before his program. She was awesome.

I wish I had.............I like Judge Jeanine! I was watching TLC as they had a one-hour documentary on Jaycee Duggard. When that was over, I switched over to Fox News and Geraldol

1tasha
07-09-2011, 11:09 PM
Does anyone else have a hard time watching the verdict? I feel sick, angry, and I find myself shaking my head every time I see it on television. I don't think I can watch it anymore.

I didn't watch it. I saw the headline on MSN and then tried to get on here to read. I haven't turned my TV on since. Mute it and turn away. It's not worth the rehash.

com n sense
07-09-2011, 11:10 PM
Found where to post this:

I don't know where to put this post so I'll start here. Something must be wrong with me because I still honestly cannot believe Casey is walking free. I can't comprehend how this happened. How did these 12 jurors come to this conclusion? Charged with nothing but lying to LE...Poor Yuri was in the balcony waiting to watch her go down.... I am still sick over it.....my stomach is in knots. I cannot believe they found her not guilty and she walks out a free woman. And no one is held responsible for Caylee's death.Feels like it's a bad dream and I will wake up from it....is anyone else still struggling with this? I know I need to move on but it's just haunting me............Casey, Jose and Chaney M and Cindy sure get the last laugh on this one........... a murderer walks free...


ETA:Darn it, I missed both programs :( Might be better off not seeing Geraldo :)


No, you are not the only one. I was in shock for days., so bad that I lost 2 days. I have no idea where they went. I couldn't eat, sleep & it weighs on my mind & heart 24 - 7. It's all I think about.
I too keep thinking & wishing I would just wake up so I could tell someone about this wild dream I had where she got off scott free.
I will not watch anything to do with the defence or the jurors unless it is a little snippet from NG, HLN or Dr Drew. Even then, I change the channel until they are done talking about what a victim this monster is.

Nefriahaia
07-09-2011, 11:11 PM
For once in my life, I actually agree with Bill! Kinda scary, but, whatever.


video at link:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259

1tasha
07-09-2011, 11:18 PM
For once in my life, I actually agree with Bill! Kinda scary, but, whatever.


video at link:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259

I feel the exact same way!

drip~drop
07-09-2011, 11:34 PM
I just simply cannot understand how 12 people can agree she had nothing to do with Caylee's death. How??

There are no words I can say without a to or maybe worse.
I'm sickened and still stunned. Really shocked. They got it wrong.

I hope nobody buys anything written by them ,avoid their tv aperances, and basically shun them and any station that has them, any publisher that uses them. no 20/20 prime time etc.....movies....nothing. Period. At. All.
This is my opinion on what I'm going to do. Jurrors asking for $$ for interviews? REALLY?:maddening:
IN MY OPINION sadly.

drip~drop
07-09-2011, 11:42 PM
[QUOTE=Bon;6885888]Found where to post this:

I don't know where to put this post so I'll start here. Something must be wrong with me because I still honestly cannot believe Casey is walking free. I can't comprehend how this happened. How did these 12 jurors come to this conclusion? Charged with nothing but lying to LE...Poor Yuri was in the balcony waiting to watch her go down.... I am still sick over it.....my stomach is in knots. I cannot believe they found her not guilty and she walks out a free woman. And know one is held responsible for Caylee's death.Feel like it's a bad dream and I will wake up from it....is anyone else still struggling with this? I know I need to move on but it's just haunting me............Casey, Jose and Chaney M and Cindy sure get the last laugh on this one........... a murderer walks free...

Bon I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. My daughter and I both feel the same way. I have a wonderful family and a very full life but I am so haunted by case. Casey got her day in court but Caylee did not. Today I planted a new rose bush in my garden in memory of Caylee. Every morning when I wake the first thing that hits me in the face is that Casey is going free and not paying for her terrible crime.

I know Jose thinks he did a great thing because he saved her from the death penalty, but he has to know that she is not being held accountable for what she did. It is one thing to not believe in the death penalty , but to believe someone should not pay for their crime is just wrong.

I think time will help us heal from this terrible miscarriage of justice - so I would encourage you to do something in memory of Caylee no matter how small. I have been trying to come up with an idea that Websleuth memebers could do as a group - any ideas?

One little thing we can do is release balloons in shades of purple on Caylees birthday thru the day...we can't do much more aside from my post above.
imo

RR0004
07-09-2011, 11:48 PM
Guess CM forgot he made this statment:

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life." J. Cheney Mason (before he joined Casey Anthony's defense team)
Why hasn't anyone called him on this?

RR0004
07-09-2011, 11:52 PM
There are no words I can say without a to or maybe worse.
I'm sickened and still stunned. Really shocked. They got it wrong.

I hope nobody buys anything written by them ,avoid their tv aperances, and basically shun them and any station that has them, any publisher that uses them. no 20/20 prime time etc.....movies....nothing. Period. At. All.
This is my opinion on what I'm going to do. Jurrors asking for $$ for interviews? REALLY?:maddening:
IN MY OPINION sadly.
I'm still in shock. I don't feel that Caylee is at peace...I really don't. As wolf mom so eloquently states every day, G-d's not finished yet.

logicalgirl
07-10-2011, 12:17 AM
I stayed off the board for 48 hours after the verdict. I felt emotionally and spiritually shattered into a million pieces.

It's hard to explain such devastation - the first day I couldn't even speak at all - it was impossible to even comprehend the jury could come to such a verdict.

Then as much as I could handle, I listened to the talking heads saying the jury system brought a just verdict and justice system still works. I listened to two jurors give completely absurd reasons for their decisions. We didn't want to be responsible for giving her the death penalty was the most absurd at all. That has nothing to do with what their decision was. Death is for the penalty phase and it is the law that decides death, not them. Clearly they paid no attention to the evidence or their jury instructions. Absurd negligence..with no excuses that will ever even begin to justify their decisions.

Tonight I watched the NG 2 hour special on Caylee. It was hard to watch and listen to, but at least the TH on this program agreed, justice was not served on that day.

Maybe tomorrow morning for the first time I won't wake up in the middle of a dream about this case. I understand why I dream about it. My mind is trying to bring logic and peace to my brain and heart. I guess one day I will be resigned to both the blind superficiality of this jury and the loss of justice for Caylee.

I have to tell you, as spiritual as I am - karma can be damned! I don't care what happens to ICA. What I care about is that there will never be justice for a two and a half little girl, who was killed, murdered, wrapped in duct tape and thrown in the swamp to rot like a piece of garbage. It will always haunt me.

After three years standing for justice, we arrive at the day when justice becomes a file marked homicide - unsolved - closed. So talking heads, Just put a cork in it and please move on. You can ever say anything to make this right. Don't talk to me about justice. Not this time. Not for Caylee.

When there is no justice, there is no peace.

Remember that, Anthony Family.

Pattymarie
07-10-2011, 12:32 AM
I stayed off the board for 48 hours after the verdict. I felt emotionally and spiritually shattered into a million pieces.

It's hard to explain such devastation - the first day I couldn't even speak at all - it was impossible to even comprehend the jury could come to such a verdict.

Then as much as I could handle, I listened to the talking heads saying the jury system brought a just verdict and justice system still works. I listened to two jurors give completely absurd reasons for their decisions. We didn't want to be responsible for giving her the death penalty was the most absurd at all. That has nothing to do with what their decision was. Death is for the penalty phase and it is the law that decides death, not them. Clearly they paid no attention to the evidence or their jury instructions. Absurd negligence..with no excuses that will ever even begin to justify their decisions.

Tonight I watched the NG 2 hour special on Caylee. It was hard to watch and listen to, but at least the TH on this program agreed, justice was not served on that day.

Maybe tomorrow morning for the first time I won't wake up in the middle of a dream about this case. I understand why I dream about it. My mind is trying to bring logic and peace to my brain and heart. I guess one day I will be resigned to both the blind superficiality of this jury and the loss of justice for Caylee.

I have to tell you, as spiritual as I am - karma can be damned! I don't care what happens to ICA. What I care about is that there will never be justice for a two and a half little girl, who was killed, murdered, wrapped in duct tape and thrown in the swamp to rot like a piece of garbage. It will always haunt me.

After three years standing for justice, we arrive at the day when justice becomes a file marked homicide - unsolved - closed. So talking heads, Just put a cork in it and please move on. You can ever say anything to make this right. Don't talk to me about justice. Not this time. Not for Caylee.

When there is no justice, there is no peace.

Remember that, Anthony Family.


Waking up each morning and realizing what has happened has happened to me too. Still sick to my stomach. But maybe this is was meant to be.

Prison would have ensured FREE comfy, protective safety and security, housing, toiletries, makeup and hair care, patholigical liar rehab, education, medical and dental, mail (from admirers and all those lovelorn), TV, religious services, exercise, friends and lovers, Bible study, AA meetings, money from parents in her account, service and even restitution.

What will freedom mean for KC? And who will pay for it?

I am willing to bet that after the big W....her lawyers would soon be free of her. Now, they are stuck with her.

Hmmm...what was Jose thinking? A WIN for him or a life for KC? (she was a fool if she ever thought her really cared for her...it was all about his career).

doubt
07-10-2011, 12:36 AM
this case and the fallout is driving me crazy. i just can't understand. i have more questions than answers. i think the world must surely be heading towards the end with this verdict....and i am not a big end-of-the-world-thinking sort of person.

i do think that entire family knew more than admitted to, at least after the fact. i think LA knew a TON more, and possibly everything, from the get go. i have always thought the relationship between him and the acquitted murderer was possibly incestuous. no, i have no proof of that. i may very well be wrong but it's a feeling i've never had before in all my 40 years. and i have other nagging thoughts.....like i remember he was on record as encouraging the killer not to go to police, didn't want cindy calling the police, didn't want anyone taking lie detector tests. why? and when i watch that freaky speech of his at the memorial it creeps me out to no end. when you add in there all of his recorded conversations....it just raises my ire so much i can't stand it.

i feel badly for feeling this way and particularly if the guy is innocent of any and all wrongdoing. but if he's not, nail him. nail them all. i just can't fathom that this family would go to the lengths they have to protect a killer. for god's sake, what are the odds that there would be four utterly morally bankrupt individuals, all willing to let the remains of a beautiful baby girl rot in the swamp, in the same friggin' family?

plastics
07-10-2011, 12:49 AM
What bothers me a lot is that it's not just Casey I have this hatred for. Obviously, she's going to lie about what happened, and not take responsibility for anything, yes it HIGHLY annoying, and I just hate it, but it's expected. What is absolutely sickening is how the family just decided to not work with anyone, and be complete morons. The mom acts like Casey is this perfect person, nothing ever happened, all is well. The dad is just angry, which is understandable, but it's like he doesn't know what to do, so he just goes with everything. Lee...well what the hell is he doing? It seems like he wants nothing to do with these people, yet he goes on the stand and does the opposite, and doesn't answer questions. I find him to be a creeper, and I find his relationship with Casey odd. I don't know if it was incestuous or not, but it is incredibly odd.

Then we go on to clown #1 and #2. Baez and Chaney. Could they be any more corrupted, scummy, people? It makes me so sick. They walk around like they won a championship, and gloating, like there was never a dead little girl. What pathetic people. They should be ashamed of themselves, and I don't know how they sleep at night, I really don't.

doubt
07-10-2011, 01:03 AM
i would be all for it if they could charge the jurors with something.

there's no friggin' way 12 people came to this conclusion without some sort of wrongdoing, coercion, something......it is impossible. i will absolutely never believe it.

Hisimage
07-10-2011, 01:14 AM
What bothers me a lot is that it's not just Casey I have this hatred for. Obviously, she's going to lie about what happened, and not take responsibility for anything, yes it HIGHLY annoying, and I just hate it, but it's expected. What is absolutely sickening is how the family just decided to not work with anyone, and be complete morons. The mom acts like Casey is this perfect person, nothing ever happened, all is well. The dad is just angry, which is understandable, but it's like he doesn't know what to do, so he just goes with everything. Lee...well what the hell is he doing? It seems like he wants nothing to do with these people, yet he goes on the stand and does the opposite, and doesn't answer questions. I find him to be a creeper, and I find his relationship with Casey odd. I don't know if it was incestuous or not, but it is incredibly odd.

Then we go on to clown #1 and #2. Baez and Chaney. Could they be any more corrupted, scummy, people? It makes me so sick. They walk around like they won a championship, and gloating, like there was never a dead little girl. What pathetic people. They should be ashamed of themselves, and I don't know how they sleep at night, I really don't.

I agree with the post. I keep finding myself thinking about how they have "won". They all are walking around with their smirks and I told you so looks. It makes my skin crawl.

There is a small part of me that thinks JB might be a little nervous because I don't think he thought she would get totally off from all of this. What is he going to do with her now? She is a loose cannon. She will get herself into some kind of trouble. Remember her little tantrums in court?

He has also more than likely encouraged her to cut her family off. Now he is going to be stuck with her until he can pass her off somewhere to someone. I also would bet he spent the money he was suppose to pay taxes on.

That felon KC is a cold hearted person. She truly has a bit of the devil in her if you ask me. He is gonna want to drop her and drop her quick because she will bring him down with her.

I'd really like to know what is going thru that brain of his and the defense team now. They may have partied into the night at the verdict they all received but I would bet once the alcohol and the high of the win wore off they were shaking in their boots. What now? Who is gonna take this girl that we painted as a poor lost soul? Because we all know that she is off her rocker and we don't want her around our wives, children and grandchildren.

In the beginning I'm sure Jose was a little excited to start hearing from the offers that were coming in from entertainment mangers , talk shows and porn companies. Imagine his fear and thoughts when they started pulling back on the offers.

Brings me to the question; is she his responsibility now? Does he have to ensure that she gets somewhere/somehow or can he take her for a long ride out into the country and drop her off?

outlandishone
07-10-2011, 01:54 AM
The next day after it happened I woke up and thought- Oh I'll put HLN on and they'll all be back in the courtroom and HHJP will fix this- it was a mistake. lol

I am just so glad I can come here and read everyone's posts that express exactly the way I feel. I started crying when I read them it was such a relief to know I was not the only one who was so destroyed by this.

It's almost how I felt after 9/11 which is dumb because it has nothing to do with it, but its the same sense of hopelessness and despair.

denmock
07-10-2011, 02:07 AM
I stayed off the board for 48 hours after the verdict. I felt emotionally and spiritually shattered into a million pieces.

It's hard to explain such devastation - the first day I couldn't even speak at all - it was impossible to even comprehend the jury could come to such a verdict.

Then as much as I could handle, I listened to the talking heads saying the jury system brought a just verdict and justice system still works. I listened to two jurors give completely absurd reasons for their decisions. We didn't want to be responsible for giving her the death penalty was the most absurd at all. That has nothing to do with what their decision was. Death is for the penalty phase and it is the law that decides death, not them. Clearly they paid no attention to the evidence or their jury instructions. Absurd negligence..with no excuses that will ever even begin to justify their decisions.

Tonight I watched the NG 2 hour special on Caylee. It was hard to watch and listen to, but at least the TH on this program agreed, justice was not served on that day.

Maybe tomorrow morning for the first time I won't wake up in the middle of a dream about this case. I understand why I dream about it. My mind is trying to bring logic and peace to my brain and heart. I guess one day I will be resigned to both the blind superficiality of this jury and the loss of justice for Caylee.

I have to tell you, as spiritual as I am - karma can be damned! I don't care what happens to ICA. What I care about is that there will never be justice for a two and a half little girl, who was killed, murdered, wrapped in duct tape and thrown in the swamp to rot like a piece of garbage. It will always haunt me.

After three years standing for justice, we arrive at the day when justice becomes a file marked homicide - unsolved - closed. So talking heads, Just put a cork in it and please move on. You can ever say anything to make this right. Don't talk to me about justice. Not this time. Not for Caylee.

When there is no justice, there is no peace.

Remember that, Anthony Family.

Your words are my words. They are how I feel and how I would have expressed myself had I the talent.

When I think of this verdict, my mind shoots off in so many directions. Each leaving me feeling frustrated and powerless. I accept that we can not go back in time. What I mean is there will be no retrying this case. That part is over. That was a pill I found so hard to swallow, but swallow it I did. But that is not where the crux of where my frustration lies. Let me explain.

First, I am frustrated that Jose Baez was able throw out LIES in his opening statement. I do NOT accept that he did that in good faith. For those who did not follow this case and did not know the background, there are some who now believe as gospel that George had something to do with Caylee's death and that he and Lee raped and molested KC. Futher more, there are some TH's that further that notion when they KNOW it to be false!!!!! How is it that an officer of the court can perpetrate lies and NEVER have ANY intention of bringing forth any evidence?

And Roy Kronk.... What did that poor man EVER do??? My goodness he called 3 times and no one cared. Thank God he went back and found Caylee. And for his good deed, Baez filets him in court?? Are there not laws, rules, etc, against this??? How can this go unpunished??? If no one stands up to this, will it become acceptable practice? ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!

(On a sidenote, did it never occur to this braindead jury (yes, I said it) that JB NEVER asked RK about how he stole the body, took it home and then put it back with old, disintegrated duct tape? Did they never wonder why JB NEVER asked George what he did after he pulled Caylee from the pool??? Or why Lee was never asked about molestation? Did they not see that he took them for a ride??? Did they not see that he LIED to them, yet they trusted him??? I DO NOT GET IT!!!!!!:banghead: )

Sorry, I had to let that out....

I am also frustrated, by this jury. I am frustrated by the lack of commen sense and logic in society as a whole.

I am frustrated that I am told by the TH's that I cannot question this verdict.

I am frustrated that we now have revisionist history on TV. Right before the verdict most TH's were talking about how KC might be able to appeal on grounds of ineffective counsel, and now we hear how JB is brilliant. They ALL thought the SA case was "overwhelmimgly strong". "One of the strongest they have ever seen" Now we hear that they, "over charged" (even though there were lesser charges) or they didn't do this or didn't do that. They do this to CYA because they are to afraid to say what they know is truth. This jury DID NOT DO THEIR JOB!!!!

I, like you am frustrated that I am being told that it is wrong for me to criticize this jury!!!!!

I am frustrated that I have NO power to change the jury system. I personally think that there needs to be a class taught by the presiding judge or a video that is played prior to deliberations and then a test MUST be passed by each juror BEFORE deliberations so they know to a tee what the instructions and charges are. That they understand they must use ONLY the EVIDENCE before them. That reasonable dout is NOT "beyond a shadow of a doubt". That motive and COD do NOT have to be proven. But I have NO power to enact this. It frustrates me because I think it is sorely needed.


These are the things that frustrate me more than the 2 things that most would say should upset me overall; No justice for Caylee and KC gets to walk!

Funny enough, these 2 things I have found peace with.

First, while I shutter to think what Caylee endured at the hands of her mother, I KNOW that she is free. Free to run and play and swing in the arms of Jesus. She will not live a life of torture under KC. Some may think this wrong, but all things considered she is much better off, IMO. She lives free of fear and never to be abused again.

Secondly, prison would have been a cake walk fo KC compaed to her life outside. She will be shunned and eventually pennyless and WILL reoffend and she will always have to look over her shoulder, as LE will be on her like a hawk. She will not go quietly, but will be hounded all the days of here life. The court of public opinion will speak loud and clear and will find her GUILTY each and every day of her miserable life. That I can live with.

This whole thing will take some time to get over, but eventually we will. I am one though who likes to see changes made when needed and when possible. I believe this case SCREAMS the system is BROKEN!!!! If progress on that front can be made then my frusration will subside and turn into satisfaction. Any suggestions on how WE can make that happen?:waitasec:

gramcracker
07-10-2011, 05:58 AM
so many great posts/posters here
_ _ _

I'll be very surprised if she kills again. I think Caylee's death was a perfect storm and she knows it would be too hinky if CA/GA are murdered or have some type of "accidental" death. but if she does kill, she will be much more careful next time: a victim who can't/won't be traced to her, so I'll never hear about it. IMO she values herself too much to risk it again. and she has learned a lot about protecting herself from being caught, if there is a next time

but I AM convinced that she will eventually be in the news again w/ white-collar crimes like fraud, theft, bad checks, embezzling, tax evasion, etc. grifter 101. and maybe DUIs
_ _ _

LOVED the earlier comment about JB et al getting rid of her by taking her for a long ride in the country and dropping her off

suzihawk
07-10-2011, 08:13 AM
The next day after it happened I woke up and thought- Oh I'll put HLN on and they'll all be back in the courtroom and HHJP will fix this- it was a mistake. lol

I am just so glad I can come here and read everyone's posts that express exactly the way I feel. I started crying when I read them it was such a relief to know I was not the only one who was so destroyed by this.

It's almost how I felt after 9/11 which is dumb because it has nothing to do with it, but its the same sense of hopelessness and despair.

I don't think it's dumb at all. It's a good analogy - maybe just on a slightly lesser scale. Both events have permanently shaken my faith in humanity.

And I appreciate the rest of your post, as well. I'm still so totally dumbfounded, hurt and angry by this decision and I'm having great difficulty getting past it. None of my friends or family followed this case and don't understand my emotional involvement. Some have said it's unhealthy - and maybe they're right. But it is what it is and I'm extremely grateful to have this safe haven of (mostly) like-minded individuals where I can discuss my feelings without judgment or repercussions.

:blowkiss:

rookie
07-10-2011, 09:39 AM
Thank-You for this thread.
I feel the same way.

I will add that i'm sick of hearing people like Dr. Drew and others to "calm down".
No! We shouldn't calm down.
This is how change comes about.

A great injustice has been done and many people have much to answer for.

I keep seeing the smug smiles from Cindy and the defense team, the victory dance
from Dorothy Sims and the vulgar jesture Cheney Mason gave to everyone and
I feel sick all over again.
And those jurors did what was easiest for them.
Not what was right.

I agree with the person above who said that the system has to change.

How can the defense team be allowed to LIE and trick and deceive but the
witnesses are expected to tell the whole truth so help them God?

How is it right that for months before the trial started that there were hearings
to negotiate what would be heard during the trial?
You don't go to a Dr. and say, "I have pain. Now you figure out where it is."
You give ALL the information so that a proper diagnosis is reached.
How is this any different?!

I can't watch any of the talking heads anymore.
They will NEVER convince me that this is okay.

Our "justice" system is horribly, horribly broken.

SurfieTX
07-10-2011, 09:55 AM
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Velouria
07-10-2011, 10:19 AM
Then we go on to clown #1 and #2. Baez and Chaney. Could they be any more corrupted, scummy, people? It makes me so sick. They walk around like they won a championship, and gloating, like there was never a dead little girl. What pathetic people. They should be ashamed of themselves, and I don't know how they sleep at night, I really don't.

respectfully snipped

I'll tell you how they sleep at night. Because in their warped minds, all the lies, damned lies, innuendo, unsubstantiated accusations, willful disregard for the rules of criminal procedure, hypocrisy, and IMO, subornation of perjury, it's all justified because the SA was seeking the death penalty.

Remember how in Baez's "acceptance speech", he claimed the lesson we should take from this trial is that "the death penalty doesn't work"? How many times during the pretrial hearings did we hear him mention that the state wanted to kill his client? Therefore, he and his sidekick CM felt they were perfectly justified in keeping Casey off death row by any means necessary.

It's the moral relativist, any means to an end approach to the practice of law, and frankly my dear, it $u(k$. :mad:

CrimeAddict
07-10-2011, 10:28 AM
Did you guys see Jeanine pirro last night? she asked JA what people should do and he said the 2nd best thing we can do to her is "ignore her". I thought that was great. Sh should not feel important in our lives. I also thought man how great would that be if she was erased from ws and could read these millions of pages about herself. I think she will enjoy coming here and reading about our pain. I know it won't happen but maybe we need to remove everything to help us move on and not read how painful thus is.

Nefriahaia
07-10-2011, 10:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqk_q4NLLI&feature=related

Nefriahaia
07-10-2011, 11:58 AM
She truly has a bit of the devil in her if you ask me.

IMHO she's possessed. No joke.

suzihawk
07-10-2011, 12:33 PM
Did you guys see Jeanine pirro last night? she asked JA what people should do and he said the 2nd best thing we can do to her is "ignore her". I thought that was great. Sh should not feel important in our lives. I also thought man how great would that be if she was erased from ws and could read these millions of pages about herself. I think she will enjoy coming here and reading about our pain. I know it won't happen but maybe we need to remove everything to help us move on and not read how painful thus is.

While I agree with and respect your sentiments, I don't agree that everything re: Casey Anthony and her ensuing trial should just be erased and swept under the rug. Just forget about it and pretend it didn't happen. That, IMO, is what's wrong with society today.

After 911, it was decided early on that it wasn't good for us to see the videos of the buildings tumbling down - that it was too traumatic for the victims and the public at large. I don't want things to be censored or sanitized for my own protection (or the protection of others).

No... we need to see it and know it in all it's ugliness and be able to express our outrage. Not shrug our shoulders and pretend it didn't happen. How else is change supposed to occur?

JMO

com n sense
07-10-2011, 01:19 PM
Did you guys see Jeanine pirro last night? she asked JA what people should do and he said the 2nd best thing we can do to her is "ignore her". I thought that was great. Sh should not feel important in our lives. I also thought man how great would that be if she was erased from ws and could read these millions of pages about herself. I think she will enjoy coming here and reading about our pain. I know it won't happen but maybe we need to remove everything to help us move on and not read how painful thus is.

I don't think this girl deseves any positive attention at all, but I think she should be shunned. I would not reward her with peace.
It gave me chills when you said we should just erase everything & move on.
That's exactly what her whole family had done all her life, especially her mother. She would love that.

Nefriahaia
07-10-2011, 01:29 PM
I stayed off the board for 48 hours after the verdict. I felt emotionally and spiritually shattered into a million pieces.

It's hard to explain such devastation - the first day I couldn't even speak at all - it was impossible to even comprehend the jury could come to such a verdict.

Then as much as I could handle, I listened to the talking heads saying the jury system brought a just verdict and justice system still works. I listened to two jurors give completely absurd reasons for their decisions. We didn't want to be responsible for giving her the death penalty was the most absurd at all. That has nothing to do with what their decision was. Death is for the penalty phase and it is the law that decides death, not them. Clearly they paid no attention to the evidence or their jury instructions. Absurd negligence..with no excuses that will ever even begin to justify their decisions.

Tonight I watched the NG 2 hour special on Caylee. It was hard to watch and listen to, but at least the TH on this program agreed, justice was not served on that day.

Maybe tomorrow morning for the first time I won't wake up in the middle of a dream about this case. I understand why I dream about it. My mind is trying to bring logic and peace to my brain and heart. I guess one day I will be resigned to both the blind superficiality of this jury and the loss of justice for Caylee.

I have to tell you, as spiritual as I am - karma can be damned! I don't care what happens to ICA. What I care about is that there will never be justice for a two and a half little girl, who was killed, murdered, wrapped in duct tape and thrown in the swamp to rot like a piece of garbage. It will always haunt me.

After three years standing for justice, we arrive at the day when justice becomes a file marked homicide - unsolved - closed. So talking heads, Just put a cork in it and please move on. You can ever say anything to make this right. Don't talk to me about justice. Not this time. Not for Caylee.

When there is no justice, there is no peace.

Remember that, Anthony Family.

:grouphug:

Zoe Bogart
07-10-2011, 01:41 PM
I've always believed in our justice system. This was one of the reasons that I am so proud to be an American.

Not anymore. I'm just sick over this. This was the most unjust verdict that I've ever heard.

I've always wanted to serve in a trial and I happen to have just been assigned jury duty on 8/8/11. I am going to send my notification back and will write in that I do not wish to serve on it because I do not believe in the system. Of course, I will show up when I am supposed to but I will maintain my belief that I do not have faith in the system. I am pretty sure they'll excuse me.

I really am sick about this. :sick:

I also have jury duty coming up in just over two weeks. I didn't claim my usual medical issues because I want to go in and sum up other jurors. I want to see first hand how jurors are chosen in my area.

The jurors from Pinellas County didn't even follow Judge's orders, even though they swore to do so. I still can't get over that. No way do I believe they did their job. My opinion is based on their statements, not on the verdict.

AdoraBlue
07-10-2011, 01:43 PM
I can't believe I'm watching this! Geraldo is on...........he began with an interview with JB and CM, taped earlier after the verdict. As can be expected, Geraldo is praising the efforts of JB and CM and their brilliant lawyering.

CM stated that he believed from the beginning that KC was innocent of murdering her child. JB said he's known from the beginning that she was innocent. Then they both criticized the state's case.

Geraldo just got into a shouting match with Kimberly Guilfoyle, with Kimberly stating that she believe's the state had a strong case.

Geraldo has an exclusive. The defense team is taking somewhere and she will be getting mental health help and recover from her ordeal.

Geraldo is defending KC. :banghead:

I stopped watching anything with Geraldo a long time ago, just can't stomach him. I believe the final straw was when he was sensationalizing a coal mining tragedy, live broadcasting unconfirmed (and subsequently untrue) reports that all of the miners were found alive. Made me sick.

I think Geraldo should offer to help KC out by hiring her as his nanny. Heck, with his penchant for younger women, he might even hit it off with her and make her the next Mrs. Rivera. JMOOC.

eljay
07-10-2011, 02:44 PM
I watched about ten minutes and had to turn it off. I cannot stand Geraldo. I think I'm going to email him tonight. Kimberly is the only descent thing on his program. I like her. I will never watch his program again. NEVER.

I don't think I even lasted that long. I got up to the part where Jose said 'It came out in the trial that it was just an accident that snowballed out of control'.

REALLY?!? wth? When did that happen?? Oh right, I must have missed that.:rolleyes:

RNmomnFL
07-10-2011, 03:19 PM
Today I seem to be stuck on anger at the verdict. On a related note, I wish there was a thread in which we could list all of the ironic happenings within this case. That would be very therapeutic for me, would help me to deal. Anyway, something I’ve been thinking about, is the notion that CMA needs to be “taken care of“. As if she is a child, instead of the competent adult that she is. Like she was just along for the ride during the trial and had nothing to do with the strategies the defense used, so hurtful to others. It seems like she gets a pass, has no accountability. Also, I wonder if the child-like impression influenced the jury…contributed to the acquittals. Again, not held responsible for the death of her child. It seems she is always being coddled. Most criminals have to fend for themselves upon jail release. Not CMA.

USARDOG
07-10-2011, 03:39 PM
I've always believed in our justice system. This was one of the reasons that I am so proud to be an American.

Not anymore. I'm just sick over this. This was the most unjust verdict that I've ever heard.

I've always wanted to serve in a trial and I happen to have just been assigned jury duty on 8/8/11. I am going to send my notification back and will write in that I do not wish to serve on it because I do not believe in the system. Of course, I will show up when I am supposed to but I will maintain my belief that I do not have faith in the system. I am pretty sure they'll excuse me.

I really am sick about this. :sick:

OK, ok, for those of us that followed this from the beginning, watched countless interviews of the major players, know them far better than what was known by the jury... we (I) firmly believe she was/is guilty. However, this also can be thought of as a victory for our justice system, in that, this defendant was given a fair trial, no matter how the court of public opinion ran, no matter how much she is hated, (and it is a lot) no matter how many of us think she is guilty, 12 of her/our peers looked at the evidence, and acting in best faith, came back saying, not that she didn't do it, but in their eyes it has not been proven.

This speaks volumes about the fairness of our system. Not that our system is broken, but rather that it shines, and even someone like ICA can receive a fair trial.

Sure this is not the verdict that I'm sure she deserved, but in spite of all the hate, in spite of all the TV coverage, in spite of the terrible lawyer she had, she still got a fair trial.

Our system of justice rocks! Think about this... "In criminal law, Blackstone's formulation is the principle: "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer", expressed by the English jurist William Blackstone in his Commentaries on the Laws of England, published in the 1760s."

One need only look as far as the Bible to see how this works...

Genesis 18:23-32 as:“Abraham drew near, and said, "Will you consume the righteous with the wicked? What if there are fifty righteous within the city? Will you consume and not spare the place for the fifty righteous who are in it? ... What if ten are found there?" He [The Lord] said, "I will not destroy it for the ten's sake."

Or...

Jeremiah 5:1 "Go up and down the streets of Jerusalem, look around and consider, search through her squares. If you can find but one person who deals honestly and seeks the truth, I will forgive this city."

The wise would see many guilty go free, rather than see one innocent condemned. Like the verdict or not, our system still works, and this is the proof.

angeleleven
07-10-2011, 03:40 PM
Did you guys see Jeanine pirro last night? she asked JA what people should do and he said the 2nd best thing we can do to her is "ignore her". I thought that was great. Sh should not feel important in our lives. I also thought man how great would that be if she was erased from ws and could read these millions of pages about herself. I think she will enjoy coming here and reading about our pain. I know it won't happen but maybe we need to remove everything to help us move on and not read how painful thus is.

I saw the program last night. I heard JA also. He thought that ignoring Casey would be the 2nd best punishment that anyone could give her because she craves attention. She loves being in the spotlight and craves any kind of attention.

I just wish that JVM would quit calling her a celebrity and giving her all kinds of compliments....like being pretty and sexy. I get so sick of hearing JVM speak of Casey....it seems like she is promoting her (to me).

eljay
07-10-2011, 03:52 PM
Waking up each morning and realizing what has happened has happened to me too. Still sick to my stomach. But maybe this is was meant to be.

Prison would have ensured FREE comfy, protective safety and security, housing, toiletries, makeup and hair care, patholigical liar rehab, education, medical and dental, mail (from admirers and all those lovelorn), TV, religious services, exercise, friends and lovers, Bible study, AA meetings, money from parents in her account, service and even restitution.



I too have been waking up in the morning and for a split second thinking I just had a bad dream. It feels like grief. Like someone you loved has died, and you keep forgetting, then remembering. It just seems so crazy that it is effecting me this way.

You know I thought the same thing that in many ways freedom might turn out to be a lot worse for her than a life in prison. I can't remember who said it, someone on HLN before the verdict, but they basically said KC would do just fine in prison. She would adjust and eventually thrive.She'd have all her needs met. She'd end up running the place.

DietitianVicky
07-10-2011, 04:18 PM
I too have been waking up in the morning and for a split second thinking I just had a bad dream. It feels like grief. Like someone you loved has died, and you keep forgetting, then remembering. It just seems so crazy that it is effecting me this way.

You know I thought the same thing that in many ways freedom might turn out to be a lot worse for her than a life in prison. I can't remember who said it, someone on HLN before the verdict, but they basically said KC would do just fine in prison. She would adjust and eventually thrive.She'd have all her needs met. She'd end up running the place.


Thank you for reminding me that I am not alone in these shared thoughts. Even when everyone around me has "moved on" and is making me feel like a freak for continuing to be so rocked by this, I'm glad to feel less alone. I'm still trying to cope with the verdict's senselessness.

It's only been five days. A child lost her entire lifetime.

Thank you for the support of this community.

Bon
07-10-2011, 05:40 PM
No, you are not the only one. I was in shock for days., so bad that I lost 2 days. I have no idea where they went. I couldn't eat, sleep & it weighs on my mind & heart 24 - 7. It's all I think about.
I too keep thinking & wishing I would just wake up so I could tell someone about this wild dream I had where she got off scott free.
I will not watch anything to do with the defence or the jurors unless it is a little snippet from NG, HLN or Dr Drew. Even then, I change the channel until they are done talking about what a victim this monster is.

I am trying to avoid everything about it, too. Just to hard to watch and it just makes me even more upset!!!

Bon
07-10-2011, 05:44 PM
I stayed off the board for 48 hours after the verdict. I felt emotionally and spiritually shattered into a million pieces.

It's hard to explain such devastation - the first day I couldn't even speak at all - it was impossible to even comprehend the jury could come to such a verdict.

Then as much as I could handle, I listened to the talking heads saying the jury system brought a just verdict and justice system still works. I listened to two jurors give completely absurd reasons for their decisions. We didn't want to be responsible for giving her the death penalty was the most absurd at all. That has nothing to do with what their decision was. Death is for the penalty phase and it is the law that decides death, not them. Clearly they paid no attention to the evidence or their jury instructions. Absurd negligence..with no excuses that will ever even begin to justify their decisions.

Tonight I watched the NG 2 hour special on Caylee. It was hard to watch and listen to, but at least the TH on this program agreed, justice was not served on that day.

Maybe tomorrow morning for the first time I won't wake up in the middle of a dream about this case. I understand why I dream about it. My mind is trying to bring logic and peace to my brain and heart. I guess one day I will be resigned to both the blind superficiality of this jury and the loss of justice for Caylee.

I have to tell you, as spiritual as I am - karma can be damned! I don't care what happens to ICA. What I care about is that there will never be justice for a two and a half little girl, who was killed, murdered, wrapped in duct tape and thrown in the swamp to rot like a piece of garbage. It will always haunt me.

After three years standing for justice, we arrive at the day when justice becomes a file marked homicide - unsolved - closed. So talking heads, Just put a cork in it and please move on. You can ever say anything to make this right. Don't talk to me about justice. Not this time. Not for Caylee.

When there is no justice, there is no peace.

Remember that, Anthony Family.

I am so happy we have this thread to turn to. Knowing I am not alone makes me feel better. That I am not alone in this "bad dream".........

kelian36
07-10-2011, 05:45 PM
I am trying to avoid everything about it, too. Just to hard to watch and it just makes me even more upset!!!

Me three. I haven't watched any of the news programs except the Dateline NBC program. I know I will only get more upset if I listen to the th's , their guest and their drivel.

Bon, it gets a little easier each day. Today was the first day since verdict day that I felt more like myself. Wishing you well.

CrimeAddict
07-10-2011, 06:21 PM
I don't think this girl deseves any positive attention at all, but I think she should be shunned. I would not reward her with peace.
It gave me chills when you said we should just erase everything & move on.
That's exactly what her whole family had done all her life, especially her mother. She would love that.

I understand what you are saying. My post maybe was taken the wrong way. I do think she should be shunned in public, but I do agree with JA in that she loves attention and will be sitting by the tv Excited to see people talking about her, that's what I meant-- for her to log on to The Internet and turn on the tv and life is back to normal for people and they don't CARE enough about talking about such a cockroach like herself.

CrimeAddict
07-10-2011, 06:30 PM
I saw the program last night. I heard JA also. He thought that ignoring Casey would be the 2nd best punishment that anyone could give her because she craves attention. She loves being in the spotlight and craves any kind of attention.

I just wish that JVM would quit calling her a celebrity and giving her all kinds of compliments....like being pretty and sexy. I get so sick of hearing JVM speak of Casey....it seems like she is promoting her (to me).

I dont watch jvm and I am starting to lose interest in Nancy also. I think after greta's special with juror 11 the foreman I will stop recording all the junk and try to find new interests on websleuths and big brother is back on, good timing I think fir a distraction.

DietitianVicky
07-10-2011, 07:06 PM
Please, if anyone else has discovered any other coping methods/healthy modalities of distractions, please share. And thank you. I'm so depressed, and no one else understands. :( :back: Surely, there must be a productive way to channel these passions/energies we all share.

Thanks. God bless.

Hisimage
07-10-2011, 07:46 PM
Vicky-- I like you am up and down. I feel like I am beginning to crawl out of a stupor. There are moments when I feel like I feel better ( the lightning strike) (Caylees song) and moments I feel so depressed or angry. For me personally I just keep praying.

My heart knows that Caylee is in a better place so that is good.
The anger and depression is all over the feelings of me and feeling its not fair. Its not fair she has got away with this. I have to remember that Justice may not been seen by us here. It will be for her maybe not until she KC actually goes to meet her maker. Because from him she can not hide.

Those of course are my feelings and what I go through.
The rest--- I hang out here with these great people and just vent. The good thing is they let me. I know they will let you too. :D

CrimeAddict
07-10-2011, 07:47 PM
Please, if anyone else has discovered any other coping methods/healthy modalities of distractions, please share. And thank you. I'm so depressed, and no one else understands. :( :back: Surely, there must be a productive way to channel these passions/energies we all share.

Thanks. God bless.

I suggest big brother, it's On 3 times per week. Also stay away from geraldo, that guy should be put away. I am goon to try to watch less Nancy, I like her but I feel as angry as her and I don't think it's helping me cope.

Bon
07-10-2011, 07:53 PM
i would be all for it if they could charge the jurors with something.

there's no friggin' way 12 people came to this conclusion without some sort of wrongdoing, coercion, something......it is impossible. i will absolutely never believe it.

I was in such shock and denial when the verdict was read that I told my DH (sarcasm) that they must have had something put in their food. That there was no way all 12 jurors could find her not guilty............unbelievable!!!
Mistrial, hung jury......but not guilty and she walks, I still cannot understand it...... feeling depressed right now :(

Bon
07-10-2011, 07:57 PM
Me three. I haven't watched any of the news programs except the Dateline NBC program. I know I will only get more upset if I listen to the th's , their guest and their drivel.

Bon, it gets a little easier each day. Today was the first day since verdict day that I felt more like myself. Wishing you well.

Thank you so much for the kind words, kelian36 :)

DietitianVicky
07-10-2011, 08:03 PM
Vicky-- I like you am up and down. I feel like I am beginning to crawl out of a stupor. There are moments when I feel like I feel better ( the lightning strike) (Caylees song) and moments I feel so depressed or angry. For me personally I just keep praying.

My heart knows that Caylee is in a better place so that is good.
The anger and depression is all over the feelings of me and feeling its not fair. Its not fair she has got away with this. I have to remember that Justice may not been seen by us here. It will be for her maybe not until she KC actually goes to meet her maker. Because from him she can not hide.

Those of course are my feelings and what I go through.
The rest--- I hang out here with these great people and just vent. The good thing is they let me. I know they will let you too. :D

Thank you so much. Not coincidentally, I referenced Psalm 37 on my Facebook page, the day of the verdict. Psalms 37 and 73 (and Romans 12:18!) have been my Rock, in many moments of sadness and suffering. And how apropos, now.

Yes, Caylee is with God, and that brings me joy. And after the lightning strike, I too, believe He has His Hands over this, all. That is comforting. I plan to make a visit out to Caylee's site to lay some flowers and a stuffed bunny my Mom made for her. Thank you so much. <3

DietitianVicky
07-10-2011, 08:09 PM
I suggest big brother, it's On 3 times per week. Also stay away from geraldo, that guy should be put away. I am goon to try to watch less Nancy, I like her but I feel as angry as her and I don't think it's helping me cope.

Totally agreed about Geraldo. Nancy is therapeutic for me, in a sense that I feel less a freak that I'm still so aghast. Everyone in "real time" around me just forgot about the case post-verdict, and here I am, still reeling. It DOES help to visibly see that I'm not alone in my sentiments. Although, I too, needed a break today from all the HLN recaps, and it helped a bit. Everything in moderation, I suppose. I think we all will eventually process this; I'm just a bit retarded in the rate I cope with grief, I guess. But it angers me that people judge others for that. We all need different amounts of time to grieve or resolve things.
Hoping all you fellow WSers are enjoying a peaceful evening with those you love.

miss plum
07-10-2011, 08:38 PM
I'm so glad for this board. I get all the information I need here, and it's from informed people who care.

I can't stand to watch anything on TV about this. After three years of incoherent defiance from the family and the DT, I find it too upsetting to hear more incoherent defiance from the jury, and to see the same footage over and over of people celebrating because they just won the Murder Superbowl. I don't want to see it.

I don't want to hear speculation about how KC has hit the jackpot, not because I think she has, but because I hate knowing she is listening and gloating and rubbing her fiendish claws together in anticipation.

I don't want to peer into the A's heads and hearts, it's a terrible place to go to.

I don't want to hear dismissive misogynistic, ageist theories that people who care about this are just a bunch of loony middle-aged or older women who hate KC because she's beautiful or who have some great psychic wound they are trying to heal by focusing on Caylee.

I don't want to walk around feeling poisoned like I have been, so I can't listen to great outpourings of anger from NG and the like, as much as I might find it completely understandable in these circumstances.

By confining myself to WS I am gradually finding some peace, and some belief that this will all work out in its own way.

The trial was horrible and graphic and exhausting and then the outcome was devastating. It's been a gruelling couple of months and now I want some peace.

Most of all, Caylee RIP.

Bobbisangel
07-10-2011, 08:46 PM
Did Richard Hornsby and Jeff Dean speculate that KC may stay at home with one of the attorneys?

Oh my, this looks like it could be a disaster.


Probably going to move in with Bias. I hope his wife knows that she shouldn't turn her back or leave them in a room alone. I say let those attorneys support her...pay for everything that she needs. They think she is such a princess! And they are so worried about her. I say put her out of the car in the middle of town and drive away.

3doglady
07-10-2011, 08:50 PM
I didn't watch Jenifer Ford and I'm not about to watch the foreman on Greta. He didn't do his job and he can't explain it. How do you explain something that defies common sense? There are pictures on Greta wire so I'm sure he got a "licensing fee", regardless of her "no paid interview" statements. I'm not about to support these people and according to the comments on her site I'm not alone.

DietitianVicky
07-10-2011, 09:10 PM
I didn't watch Jenifer Ford and I'm not about to watch the foreman on Greta. He didn't do his job and he can't explain it. How do you explain something that defies common sense? There are pictures on Greta wire so I'm sure he got a "licensing fee", regardless of her "no paid interview" statements. I'm not about to support these people and according to the comments on her site I'm not alone.


I TOTALLY agree! No media interviews! Boycott them all, except if they are Linda Or Jeff. Yes. It starts here, it starts now, and it starts with THIS.

By the way, thank you for your avatar. Linda is nothing less than a HERO to me, along with Jeff and Frank. :blushing:They have made me determined to follow in their footsteps and pursue my original career plans....LAW SCHOOL! :D

IfIMay
07-10-2011, 09:11 PM
Is the foreman the 5 figure guy? Disgusting. Especially if Greta pays him.

back2back19
07-10-2011, 09:13 PM
Is the foreman the 5 figure guy? Disgusting. Especially if Greta pays him.

Don't think so. That one is a chef. I think number 6.

1tasha
07-10-2011, 09:19 PM
Please, if anyone else has discovered any other coping methods/healthy modalities of distractions, please share. And thank you. I'm so depressed, and no one else understands. :( :back: Surely, there must be a productive way to channel these passions/energies we all share.

Thanks. God bless.

There is a list of things to do with your anger and energy. I'll see if I can bump it. Peace.

CrimeAddict
07-10-2011, 09:45 PM
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Lucylu7
07-10-2011, 10:08 PM
This is my first post since the verdict.Like all of you,I could not believe what I was hearing.I was at work and watched on my laptop,the rest of the day and for a few days after I was in a daze.And to think that we were worried about a hung jury!I couldn't even get on here for most of the next couple of days.I have given up on HLN,just can't watch them make KC into a celeb.I know Vinnie and Nancy were upset but I still think the less attention to KC the better,esp now.Last nite I dreamed I was JP's court clerk and got to read the verdict.It was guilty.This case got to me and obviosly I was way too invested in it.I try to tell myself that people get away with murder all the time,but it still hurts.I am only reading here now,no more talking heads,can't take it.I still cannot believe that 12 people thought she was not guilty!!!Trying to get back to my own life now ,reading a book and listening to my ipod and enjoying what's left of summer.I'm sure I'll get interested in another case someday but I don't know what juries want,first Jason Young gets a mistrial and now this!RIP Caylee and Michelle Young

CrimeAddict
07-10-2011, 10:13 PM
This is my first post since the verdict.Like all of you,I could not believe what I was hearing.I was at work and watched on my laptop,the rest of the day and for a few days after I was in a daze.And to think that we were worried about a hung jury!I couldn't even get on here for most of the next couple of days.I have given up on HLN,just can't watch them make KC into a celeb.I know Vinnie and Nancy were upset but I still think the less attention to KC the better,esp now.Last nite I dreamed I was JP's court clerk and got to read the verdict.It was guilty.This case got to me and obviosly I was way too invested in it.I try to tell myself that people get away with murder all the time,but it still hurts.I am only reading here now,no more talking heads,can't take it.I still cannot believe that 12 people thought she was not guilty!!!Trying to get back to my own life now ,reading a book and listening to my ipod and enjoying what's left of summer.I'm sure I'll get interested in another case someday but I don't know what juries want,first Jason Young gets a mistrial and now this!RIP Caylee and Michelle Young

I am in NC and I watched a lot of the JY trial, was disappointed but I am not sure the state did that great of a job and at least they should have another chance. We will find out next month if they will retry him. As for Casey the jurors are a "huge waste" of my thoughts.

roseofsharon
07-10-2011, 10:25 PM
I dont watch jvm and I am starting to lose interest in Nancy also. I think after greta's special with juror 11 the foreman I will stop recording all the junk and try to find new interests on websleuths and big brother is back on, good timing I think fir a distraction.

Today, I watched the food network cooking shows and it was uplifting!

I still love WS community and want to participate, but made a pact with myself today that I will no longer follow the TH's -- three years is far too long.

Sweet dreams sweet Caylee.

tankgirl
07-10-2011, 10:37 PM
After an initial reaction of shock and dismay I have begun to realize that setting her "free" could well be the worst kind of punishment for Ms. Anthony. As many have noted, she has now been outed as a manipulator. She would have been a sort of celebrity among other inmates and been protected had she gone to prison. It appears that she cannot stand emotion or weakness, so loser sycophants won't provide the narcissistic supply she requires. The majority of people who recognize her will know her as the stone-cold perpetrator of the most cowardly crime that can be committed: The murder (and studied denial of such) of her own child. So much for glamour.

roseofsharon
07-10-2011, 10:38 PM
There is a list of things to do with your anger and energy. I'll see if I can bump it. Peace.

DieticianVicky -- there are many resources online for grief support. I think you might feel better if you joined one of these groups. There are so many good people online, everyone in the same boat, each reaching out to help one another.

I was just starting to get through that tunnel after losing my Mom last year, but this verdict has ignited all the grieving all over again.

Good luck seeking the peace you now need.:seeya:

Nefriahaia
07-10-2011, 11:56 PM
Not only am I sick and heartbroken over the death of Justice on 7/5/11, it truly breaks my already broken heart to read PAGE AFTER PAGE of my fellow members and their rage, frustration and pain. :anguish: We need to heal, we need to see justice done. HOW? I don't know, but something has to happen.

blondgrl
07-11-2011, 04:12 PM
Hello Everyone! I have also been really depressed since the verdict. I try to talk to my husband or my Mom and they just don't understand. I'm so glad that I can read posts on here and relate as to how I am still feeling and knowing that I am not alone. My heart and my chest have been so heavy still. I even started getting :panic: attacks over it!!! Made the decision not to watch anymore coverage because it's not helping me! Yesterday, my husband and I went to brunch with friends and then went and saw Horrible Bosses which was so funny. It has been the first time I was able to laugh since the verdict and it felt so good. Finally feeling a little bit better. Thanks for listening. :grouphug::grouphug:

Anniegirl
07-11-2011, 04:19 PM
I'm stillin shock and watching pigs fly.( which is what i thought pre judgement day,that pigs would fly before an "not guilty"verdict) was at Dr Office when verdict came down, couldve heard a pin drop--when they read verdict one lady stood up and litertally cussed at and cried at tv. ) I was so in shock, cant even explain~:maddening:

Anniegirl
07-11-2011, 04:21 PM
Hello Everyone! I have also been really depressed since the verdict. I try to talk to my husband or my Mom and they just don't understand. I'm so glad that I can read posts on here and relate as to how I am still feeling and knowing that I am not alone. My heart and my chest have been so heavy still. I even started getting :panic: attacks over it!!! Made the decision not to watch anymore coverage because it's not helping me! Yesterday, my husband and I went to brunch with friends and then went and saw Horrible Bosses which was so funny. It has been the first time I was able to laugh since the verdict and it felt so good. Finally feeling a little bit better. Thanks for listening. :grouphug::grouphug:

Yea, it helps toget away..I had to do that from all the tv coverage --went to lifetime channeland watch movies allday yestrerday to avoid hearing her name!

blondgrl
07-11-2011, 04:39 PM
Yea, it helps toget away..I had to do that from all the tv coverage --went to lifetime channeland watch movies allday yestrerday to avoid hearing her name!

Thank you- I feel the same way, just don't want to hear that name anymore! Lifetime channel sounds good!

Baznme
07-11-2011, 04:47 PM
Not only am I sick and heartbroken over the death of Justice on 7/5/11, it truly breaks my already broken heart to read PAGE AFTER PAGE of my fellow members and their rage, frustration and pain. :anguish: We need to heal, we need to see justice done. HOW? I don't know, but something has to happen.

We haven't heard the last of Ms. Anthony. Just bide your time. The truth always comes through, somehow, some way.

crucibelle
07-11-2011, 04:48 PM
I am already prone to depression, anyhow.. so I was extremely depressed the day of and a couple of days after the verdict. I kept having strange dreams about the trial, too, and I had never had dreams about it before. I think I bounced back relatively quickly, however. This site helped tremendously. Going over the evidence & still trying to find an answer to some of the mysteries of this case has helped me quite a bit. If not for this site and its members, I'd probably still be in a terrible funk. Thanks to all of you!

CrimeAddict
07-11-2011, 07:38 PM
I hope everyone's day was better today and you were all able to find some distractions. My 3 year old helped me not watch the news.. which was nice.. news doesn't work well in our house until he goes to bed. I was upset again today reading the foreman wrote that he new she was guilty and they could not prove cause of death. I am so upset because the Pros did not need to prove that, so I really feel this is an unjust verdict even more now.

Anyways.. I have been doing some thinking and realize being out of jail is not going to keep her safe its going to give her a life of living hell. It's not like she can go out partying, right? Where is she gonna go? Someone is going to get drunk and smack her around, she will be watching her back her whole life. She is safer in prison and she will figure that out soon enough.

Zak
07-11-2011, 11:55 PM
Hi all. I am starting to feel better about the verdict after having taken several days off from reading or watching anything on TV related to "that girl" (just can't say her name and I am being polite in calling her that girl). I've calmed down a bit, although my heart is still broken because there was no justice for Caylee. I am, however, calmed by the fact that there are so many people that hate "that girl". She is the most hated person in the world right now. I really and truly think that when she is released she will be shunned and ignored by all. Especially with all the boycotts going on (keep up the good work people!). I am sure there is some network that is dying for an interview but if we don't watch it then she will fade away. I mean if Jerry Springer and that porn company don't want her then who would?? So I find great comfort knowing that she will never have a normal life. She will never find peace. She will always be remembered as the one that got away with murder. It will warm my heart to know in the near future that she is leading a lonely miserable life hated and shunned by all, afraid to go out in public and pennyless. I think her parents are in the same boat as her right now. Its called a sinking ship. Oh, to be that hated must weigh heavily on them all. Maybe there will be justice for Caylee afterall. Sadly, not in a court of law but in the court of public opinion.

hpvdr
07-12-2011, 12:13 AM
Mark NeJame (former Anthony attorney) just tweeted:

Jaycee Duggard's mother sends out thousands of flyers and never gives up search for 18 years....Casey Anthony rents a video and gets a tattoo.

3doglady
07-12-2011, 01:59 AM
I think I'm starting to emerge from the darkness. The DT is getting exactly what they deserve. CM has shown the entire country how vulgar he really is. Wouldn't you love to be known as the finger guy? Now he's on Greta insulting the majority of the population as well as Aston. I love it when people show their true colors on national tv. The DT has to take responsibility for KC now, bet they didn't expect that in a million years. CM is talking about wonderful KC is and she absolutely can't go home but she can't go home with him either. JB is saying well now maybe KC and CA can mend their relationship. LOL he doesn't want KC either obviously. All those money deals for JB and KC seem to be falling through. KC's being sued by everyone and their brother. Hopefully HHJP will stick to his promise and hold JB in contempt. KC will eventually get what she deserves. I read somewhere that KC may not be stuck in jail, but she's stuck with herself. She'll be back in the slammer soon I imagine.

The jury that stood up for Caylee and did such a wonderful job, have told the nation exactly how brilliant they think they are. Most are ashamed to show their face. I imagine the friends they had are quickly evaporating. They have to live with themselves.

The Anthonys have to live with themselves too. I don't need to say more about that.


Caylee's been with God for a while now so none of this can hurt her anymore. Rest in peace sweet child. You were too good for any of them. JMO

Bon
07-12-2011, 08:01 AM
Well one week ago today we were all devastated by the shocking verdict!!! :(

Bon
07-12-2011, 08:05 AM
Mark NeJame (former Anthony attorney) just tweeted:

Jaycee Duggard's mother sends out thousands of flyers and never gives up search for 18 years....Casey Anthony rents a video and gets a tattoo.

I love Mark NeJame...he has a great sense of humor and he lets it be known how he really feels about ICA!!! Like us.....:floorlaugh:

suzihawk
07-12-2011, 08:25 AM
Well one week ago today we were all devastated by the shocking verdict!!! :(

I'm still reeling from it. Even more so since listening to these jurors trying to justify their epic travesty of justice.

Nefriahaia
07-12-2011, 08:30 AM
Well one week ago today we were all devastated by the shocking verdict!!! :(

And I am STILL reeling! The more I think about it, the angrier and more devastated I get. It makes NO SENSE at all, no matter what angle you look at it from.

Bon
07-12-2011, 08:45 AM
And I am STILL reeling! The more I think about it, the angrier and more devastated I get. It makes NO SENSE at all, no matter what angle you look at it from.

ITA!!! I still cannot understand how this happened. As you said, it just does not make sense no matter how you look at it..........
What bothers me is that a juror said they could not decide who's possession little Caylee was in...Caseys or the grandparents... the 911 tape by Cindy cleared that up and also when Casey ask for one more day, Cindy says no way!!! Were they wearing ear plugs???
Since it's a week today, I am experiencing all the horrible feelings I felt when the verdict was read! Someone PUSH me, I need to move on but I just can't! :(

Nana46
07-12-2011, 08:51 AM
I cannot watch that video of the day His Honor read her charges for lying....all that giggling, googly eyes at her defense lawyer is sickening....at least wait until you get out....gag.

Drama Queen
07-12-2011, 09:00 AM
Good Morning,
I have not had interest in writing a word since the verdict. Nonetheless, I wanted to tell all of you that I have appreciated each and every post during the three years we have been here seeking "justice for Caylee."
To say that I am disapointed in this verdict would be putting it mildly. What concerns me the most are the people out there spewing hate and wishes of death for Caylee's family and ICA.
It is bad enough that she recieved this unjust verdict but regardless, Caylee loved them.
I expect that ICA will have a very lonely life. OJ didn't do very well after his verdict and he was wealthy and a Heissman Trophy winner. All ICA has is the reputation of being a child killer, liar, manipulator, and basic creep and nasty woman.
I don't think that the defense team signed on to be her babysitter's for life. And...since the family is forever torn apart I see her having a very bad ending.
I might be wrong but I doubt it.
Sure she may recieve a bit of money for licensing fees, books etc., but my feeling is that she will recieve the karma she deserves.
Anyway, thanks to all of you for being here for Caylee and support of one another. This site and its subscribers are the best!
DQ

3doglady
07-12-2011, 09:03 AM
I'm still reeling from it. Even more so since listening to these jurors trying to justify their epic travesty of justice.

How did 12 people decide that the world is flat? Did they all have an agenda? Did the foreman convince them that he knew the law and they felt no choice but to follow? Do they all lack reasoning skills?

How is it with the mothers and grandmothers on this jury, there was not one strong woman to stand up for a dead child? I'll never understand.:maddening:

Bon
07-12-2011, 09:07 AM
How did 12 people decide that the world is flat? Did they all have an agenda? Did the foreman convince them that he knew the law and they felt no choice but to follow? Do they all lack reasoning skills?

How is it with the mothers and grandmothers on this jury, there was not one strong woman to stand up for a dead child? I'll never understand.:maddening:


That makes two of us :(

miss plum
07-12-2011, 10:05 AM
I was thinking before of how sad and strange it is that when this controversial verdict came down, there was not one family member of Caylee's who objected, or reacted, or sobbed, or screamed, nothing, just some silence and a smile and a scurry out the door. Usually in cases where there is an unexpected acquittal there is a huge outcry from the victim's family, but all Caylee got was a complicit, heavy silence, and then people turning up at the jail, cap in hand, trying to visit with her accused murderer. I have truly never seen the likes and I hope I never do again. That poor baby was doomed from the minute she was born.

And now the DT wants to silence us, metaphorically duct tape our mouths, but they can't 'make us stop'. And none of the Anthonys can force us to line their Judas pockets with thirty pieces of silver. And ICA can't make people admire her, or believe her, or ever forget.

Italy
07-12-2011, 10:17 AM
How did 12 people decide that the world is flat? Did they all have an agenda? Did the foreman convince them that he knew the law and they felt no choice but to follow? Do they all lack reasoning skills?

How is it with the mothers and grandmothers on this jury, there was not one strong woman to stand up for a dead child? I'll never understand.:maddening:

I believe you are on to something. I think one or two of the jurors insisted on their version and simply browbeat the rest of the people who were not sure of what was required. You HAVE to know cause of death, for example.

I am hoping that at least one juror breaks ranks and tells what really happened -- at least one juror who realizes a terrible verdict was rendered and who wants to explain how it happened. It is one thing to make a terrible mistake but quite another to insist in lockstep: "We just did our job." and "The evidence wasn't there.". We KNOW what the evidence was - we watched it too!

Surely there is one honest soul who will spill the beans. That person will be the only one with any integrity remaining.

ScubaTwinn
07-12-2011, 10:25 AM
I thought I could get past this, I really did. But I live in Central Florida and our local news has been broadcasting everything about her. It was fine for the past three years but I'm ready to lose it while trying to watch weather and traffic. I control what I watch of the TH's and "entertainement shows" but this is pushing me over the edge. I've been able to keep my emotions in check all this time, calm and patient. But this morning I was screaming at the TV when the local announcer said "Just what did KC do after Kaylee died?" - SHE WENT TO TARGET WITH HER BOYFRIEND!
OMG I'm gonna have a stroke I'm so upset and my anger seems to be "snowballing".

SATA
07-12-2011, 11:19 AM
Hi all. I am starting to feel better about the verdict after having taken several days off from reading or watching anything on TV related to "that girl" (just can't say her name and I am being polite in calling her that girl). I've calmed down a bit, although my heart is still broken because there was no justice for Caylee. I am, however, calmed by the fact that there are so many people that hate "that girl". She is the most hated person in the world right now. I really and truly think that when she is released she will be shunned and ignored by all. Especially with all the boycotts going on (keep up the good work people!). I am sure there is some network that is dying for an interview but if we don't watch it then she will fade away. I mean if Jerry Springer and that porn company don't want her then who would?? So I find great comfort knowing that she will never have a normal life. She will never find peace. She will always be remembered as the one that got away with murder. It will warm my heart to know in the near future that she is leading a lonely miserable life hated and shunned by all, afraid to go out in public and pennyless. I think her parents are in the same boat as her right now. Its called a sinking ship. Oh, to be that hated must weigh heavily on them all. Maybe there will be justice for Caylee afterall. Sadly, not in a court of law but in the court of public opinion.

You are right about all these things. I would like to add that a lot of people, including the state of Florida, are getting into gear with MASSIVE lawsuits for Ms. Anthony. There will be NO "Bella Vita" for her out there!
It IS a consolation.
I am not a vindictive person, and I certainly do not believe in the Death Penalty, but in my opinion, it is a travesty that she wasn´t at least convicted of aggravating child abuse.
I would be willing to consider forgiving her and trying to understand, IF SHE WOULD TELL THE TRUTH. Only she can clear this up once and for all. SHE cannot truly move on with her life until she repents, and she cannot repent until she comes clean. I know that she is probably a sociopath/psychopath and probably doesn´t care, but her life will still be a stilted life with no core, no real love. She will be the loneliest person in this world.

Meemom
07-12-2011, 12:11 PM
I thought I could get past this, I really did. But I live in Central Florida and our local news has been broadcasting everything about her. It was fine for the past three years but I'm ready to lose it while trying to watch weather and traffic. I control what I watch of the TH's and "entertainement shows" but this is pushing me over the edge. I've been able to keep my emotions in check all this time, calm and patient. But this morning I was screaming at the TV when the local announcer said "Just what did KC do after Kaylee died?" - SHE WENT TO TARGET WITH HER BOYFRIEND!
OMG I'm gonna have a stroke I'm so upset and my anger seems to be "snowballing".

Please watch your blood pressure......I followed this since day31, had to just get off the boards and change the channels after the verdict. I was heartsick.....and then physically ill....had a small TIA stroke due to spike in BP. Okay now, but have to wonder.....can I join the "sue ICA bandwagon" for pain and suffering, so that "person" never makes a dime off our sweet baby Caylee.....we all need to take comfort from the fact that we can go on with our lives, keep Caylee in our hearts, and know that ICA will ALWAYS be a miserable excuse for a human being, will never truly know love, or the joy that comes from unconditionally loving a child....JMO

MaryAnn
07-12-2011, 12:24 PM
I swear I can't wait for this case to get out of my head. I'm getting there. it's truly an addiction. a bad one! Anyway, we were always commenting on how JB was always delay, delay, delay! I truly think now that this was the real reason the Jury voted the way they did. The SA's were timely and went through their evidence quickly. you know we cannot say that about the Defense. I'm sure the icing on the cake was the Saturday that ECA (now it's evil Casey A) had to have her Pyhsc eval. I can understand why those Jurors wanted to go home, but I don't think it's right. They committed to this case! If they had voted Quilty they could have possibly been there another two weeks. I'm sure JB would have dragged his feet (out of spite) with the Penalty Phase. It would have been like a new mini-trial. I think those Jurors could not take another day away from home even if it meant letting her go free. I have dogs and cats and I know I could not be away from them that long. A week is torture for me. I read about one Jury saying he was worried about his Dogs, which I totally understand, but they needed to convict the baby killer and they let her go free. JB won with his stall tactics and lies. where is our Justice? There isn't any!

listening-in
07-12-2011, 01:10 PM
I have also followed this case since GA and CA went on tv looking for their granddaughter and telling everyone within earshot that the mom was so wonderful!...got my suspicions up right away...been on websleuths following faithfully and responding a few times...NEVER thought the outcome would be this...mom rewarded for killing her child!...the jurors must have been dazed by JB's wonderful ability to present his case (ok ...not really my view) but they had to be in a hazed about something!...
how can you explain...dead child...mom =no reaction.
The entire A family deserves whatever comes their way(heaven needs to intervene here) ...but I will NEVER watch, read, or listen to anything that THEY have been Paid to produce!
I have come to the conclusion that the only place a person can find JUSTICE is in the dictionary....Sorry Caylee -you have been failed again!

RR0004
07-12-2011, 06:48 PM
I am still angry. When will it get easier?

Sparky
07-12-2011, 07:09 PM
As an Orange Co resident, I'm glad it is over. I'm sick to death of hearing about the Anthony's. I'm sorry Caylee did not get her Justice, but in due time I think she will.

After following this case for 3 yrs from beginning to end, I think it's time I focus my energy elsewhere. My mom has been diagnosed with cancer and will be having surgery very soon. She has always said what goes around comes around 2 fold and I strongly believe that.

I am also angry with the verdict but, I do see good things coming out of this trial such as people that don't even know each other coming together for a great cause. I've met new friends that I cherish deeply and hope one day we will be able to meet Caylee in her new home free from pain.

We all fell in love with Caylee, and even though we didn't know her, She will forever be in our hearts.

CrimeAddict
07-12-2011, 07:10 PM
I am still angry. When will it get easier?

I think it's going to get easier after she gets out of jail and the news shows have nothing else to discuss about her. She will be gone for a while and will pop up later.. we will have time to heal then.. but until they stop talking about this we just have more fuel for our fire. :banghead:

DietitianVicky
07-12-2011, 07:26 PM
How did 12 people decide that the world is flat? Did they all have an agenda? Did the foreman convince them that he knew the law and they felt no choice but to follow? Do they all lack reasoning skills?

How is it with the mothers and grandmothers on this jury, there was not one strong woman to stand up for a dead child? I'll never understand.:maddening:

I'm not even a MOTHER, and I am still in tears over it all! That innate maternal streak that runs through us women, and the absolute love that overflows in my heart for a child, makes me want to enact my own brand of harsh justice on this monster. You could hear this same sentiment mirrored in Linda Drane Burdick's voice, as she closed out the case last Monday. If you AREN'T outraged, double check if you are HUMAN.

I live in Central FL, as well. It's storming fiercely outside. That beautiful baby lay out in the wet filth, through many a night like this. :cry:

Heartbroken?! Heartbroken is not nearly adequate a description to describe the incense and grief I feel, over a precious baby tossed into a trash dump. This is gonna take a LOT of time for me, so if any fellow WS-ers are also slower in processing, feel free to share and know I'll understand. But I WILL harness my sentiments for something positive; likely eventual realization of a law career.

We will all work through the emotional whirlwind. Meanwhile, know you're in PLENTY good company.

Rest with God, Little One. :rose:

GreenTeam
07-12-2011, 07:47 PM
I swear I can't wait for this case to get out of my head. I'm getting there. it's truly an addiction. a bad one! Anyway, we were always commenting on how JB was always delay, delay, delay! I truly think now that this was the real reason the Jury voted the way they did. The SA's were timely and went through their evidence quickly. you know we cannot say that about the Defense. I'm sure the icing on the cake was the Saturday that ECA (now it's evil Casey A) had to have her Pyhsc eval. I can understand why those Jurors wanted to go home, but I don't think it's right. They committed to this case! If they had voted Quilty they could have possibly been there another two weeks. I'm sure JB would have dragged his feet (out of spite) with the Penalty Phase. It would have been like a new mini-trial. I think those Jurors could not take another day away from home even if it meant letting her go free. I have dogs and cats and I know I could not be away from them that long. A week is torture for me. I read about one Jury saying he was worried about his Dogs, which I totally understand, but they needed to convict the baby killer and they let her go free. JB won with his stall tactics and lies. where is our Justice? There isn't any!

BBM

Just wanted to thank you for the giggle--I bet this jury would have voted "Quilty" if they had had the option, LOL! :floorlaugh:

DietitianVicky
07-12-2011, 07:49 PM
BBM

Just wanted to thank you for the giggle--I bet this jury would have voted "Quilty" if they had had the option, LOL! :floorlaugh:

You KNOW it...! :loser:

GreenTeam
07-12-2011, 08:42 PM
You KNOW it...! :loser:

Too many pieces to the patchwork! You didn't sew it together for us! You didn't tell us what type of fabric was used! :floorlaugh:

Silkprint
07-12-2011, 09:47 PM
Meemom ..happy you are okay now .That must have been scary .

ScubaTwinn
07-13-2011, 07:00 AM
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Please watch your blood pressure......I followed this since day31, had to just get off the boards and change the channels after the verdict. I was heartsick.....and then physically ill....had a small TIA stroke due to spike in BP. Okay now, but have to wonder.....can I join the "sue ICA bandwagon" for pain and suffering, so that "person" never makes a dime off our sweet baby Caylee.....we all need to take comfort from the fact that we can go on with our lives, keep Caylee in our hearts, and know that ICA will ALWAYS be a miserable excuse for a human being, will never truly know love, or the joy that comes from unconditionally loving a child....JMO

I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. I hope you are doing better. I have high blood pressure too and why I've tried to not let this get to me. But unfortunately, I think I'm getting worse. Yesterday was my worst day, and I even snapped at hubby more than once last night. I had to apologize and tell him I didn't know what was wrong with me and all along I knew it was this sweet child. He's been very supportive through all of this and knows how devastated I am but I couldn't be honest about how I still feel a week later. I cannot believe how this has affected me.

Ninsi
07-13-2011, 04:55 PM
Hi guys. I too am still beyond disturbed by the outcome. I am actually going to stop coming to the forum for a bit and stop reading any news on the matter to see if that helps. It HAS helped to come here and it has helped to read all your posts/thoughts/feelings, don't get me wrong. But I have to examine how I can better spend my time now that this is truly over. I did stumble across a rather brutal (for lack of a better term) article...I am posting the link below the snippet...The title is called Life Coaching For Those Obsessed With the Casey Anthony Trial...Most of it was garbage in my opinion, and more than a bit condescending, but the one thing that did strike me was this portion of it:

"For example, if you are struggling to have children, it’s natural to feel frustrated when you perceive someone like Anthony has succeeded in that and squandered it. It’s understandably human to ask why and even have some confusion and/or resentment, but ultimately you have to know railing at a stranger to the level where your blood pressure is rising isn’t going to bring you a baby.

Ditto for all the other possibilities that have you getting so emotionally involved in one woman’s story.

There’s another way to go here.

Ideally, the fever pitch around the Casey Anthony trial could spur action for children in need. If there is time to watch hours of coverage and craft status updates, there is time to funnel the energy into something more productive. One Facebook friend posted a terrific suggestion -- get better acquainted with a Web site for missing kids.

That’s an easy, surface-level idea that requires only time on the Internet. But you can always take it up a notch. Write a check. Write regular checks if you can. Target causes that help make children’s health and well-being a priority.

Just Tell Director Vivian Farmery would be all too happy to let you release your frustration at the mistreatment of children by contributing to Just Tell, whose mission is, according to its Web site, “to educate and empower children and adults around the issue of childhood sexual abuse.”

Need I mention St. Jude’s Hospital? What better place to bring your compassion for children? No extra cash? They appreciate volunteers, too."

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2011/07/08/life-coaching-those-obsessed-with-casey-anthony-trial/#ixzz1S1LBSLkj

Imagine if all the posters here in this forum ( I am sure some if not many ALREADY DO) chose a charity of their choice and donated in some way to it. In some small way, in helping another child, we can honor Caylee. No, I didn't know Caylee, but she is an amalgam if you will of all the children murdered by their mothers that should have had an opportunity to live and love in this world....

Here is a great link to Top Rated Charities: http://www.charitywatch.org/toprated.html
I have found a charity that I want to help and in doing so, may help myself get over this travesty.

Just a thought....

princesspjs
07-22-2011, 11:59 AM
I'm trying to come up with my request to be excused from jury duty. I have 238 characters to type in why I'd like to be excused but I need help with what to say.

I'd like to make sure that:
1. They are aware that I've always wanted to serve on a jury and have always believed it to be a great and fair procedure.
2. They understand that after Caylee's case that I have zero faith in our system and that I want no part of any of it because this is proof beyond ALL doubt that our system does not work properly and since the person guilty of murdering her own baby girl walks free, this also means that there are innocent people who have been wrongly convicted.

Can anyone please help me to get those points across in a professional manner with the few characters that I am allowed?

I'm not sure if I should post this as a new thread in a different part of the forum instead of here, any advise?

Thank you WS'ers for any help you can give me.

EPfan
07-22-2011, 01:17 PM
I'm trying to come up with my request to be excused from jury duty. I have 238 characters to type in why I'd like to be excused but I need help with what to say.

I'd like to make sure that:
1. They are aware that I've always wanted to serve on a jury and have always believed it to be a great and fair procedure.
2. They understand that after Caylee's case that I have zero faith in our system and that I want no part of any of it because this is proof beyond ALL doubt that our system does not work properly and since the person guilty of murdering her own baby girl walks free, this also means that there are innocent people who have been wrongly convicted.

Can anyone please help me to get those points across in a professional manner with the few characters that I am allowed?

I'm not sure if I should post this as a new thread in a different part of the forum instead of here, any advise?

Thank you WS'ers for any help you can give me.

I think if you don't serve that shows that you don't have confidence in yourself, that you couldn't serve and follow the evidence of whatever sort of case you would be sitting on. I believe that you can. Your voice matters.

You need to understand that the process in place isn't just about 12 people sitting on the jury, it's also about everyone involved, starting with the police detectives, investigators, right down to the procecuters. I know (most) everyone is dissappointed in the "Not Guilty" verdit but the jurors didn't say innocent. I believe the charges were wrong, in that the procecution decided to over charge, with what evidence they had. I believe the system worked because even though must of us think she was guilty, the procecution had in their mind what they thought happened but couldn't prove it. Leads me to believe that nobody knows exactly what happend. The procecution should have gone for involuntary manslaughter. IMOO.

Nefriahaia
07-22-2011, 01:27 PM
1.) lies to family and friends

2.) steals from family and friends

3.) kills daughter

4.) Lies to investigators

5.) Has no problem getting legal representation

6.) causes the biggest legal circus in FLA history

7.) Throws her family and others under the bus

8.) Gets acquitted

9.) Apparently goes on her merry way and prospers

I just can't bang my head hard enough. Somebody wake me up from this nightmare.

princesspjs
07-22-2011, 01:38 PM
I think if you don't serve that shows that you don't have confidence in yourself, that you couldn't serve and follow the evidence of whatever sort of case you would be sitting on. I believe that you can. Your voice matters.

You need to understand that the process in place isn't just about 12 people sitting on the jury, it's also about everyone involved, starting with the police detectives, investigators, right down to the procecuters. I know (most) everyone is dissappointed in the "Not Guilty" verdit but the jurors didn't say innocent. I believe the charges were wrong, in that the procecution decided to over charge, with what evidence they had. I believe the system worked because even though must of us think she was guilty, the procecution had in their mind what they thought happened but couldn't prove it. Leads me to believe that nobody knows exactly what happend. The procecution should have gone for involuntary manslaughter. IMOO.

Thank you for voicing your opinion, I appreciate your thoughts.

I have great confidence in my own abilities to serve on a jury which is why I always have wanted to be chosen to be on one.

I agree that it takes having the knowledge of the police, investigators, prosecution, witness testimony and whether or not they tell the truth, etc. There was definitely enough circumstantial evidence to find her guilty of the lessor charges but the way our system works it wasn't all allowed in, people perjured themselves on the stand with NO penalties after the fact, the defendant lied throughout the entire investigation about her own child being missing...everyone here knows what happened, I don't need to point it all out all over again.

The fact is, I don't want to be ANY part of this judicial system. I pay my taxes so I have no choice but to contribute that way. The bottom line for me is that I do not believe in our system after witnessing this as well as watching the wonderful work of the groups like the Innocent Project. I am personally choosing that I do not wish to participate in a system that can be mocked so blatantly and obviously in front of live cameras for all of us to see.

I just know that there are countless proceedings that aren't televised and researched as thoroughly as this one was. To me, this is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that our system gets it wrong a lot more times than we ever find out about in the news.

I am choosing to opt out.

As the OP of this thread, I would prefer that this doesn't become a debate as to why I should or should not have a desire to be on a jury. (As well as to stay on the topic of the thread.)

I am simply asking for help from the wonderful Web Sleuthers here in how I could word my reply to the Summons for Jury Duty with the limited amount of space that I have.

miakelly
07-22-2011, 02:05 PM
Thank you for voicing your opinion, I appreciate your thoughts.

I have great confidence in my own abilities to serve on a jury which is why I always have wanted to be chosen to be on one.

I agree that it takes having the knowledge of the police, investigators, prosecution, witness testimony and whether or not they tell the truth, etc. There was definitely enough circumstantial evidence to find her guilty of the lessor charges but the way our system works it wasn't all allowed in, people perjured themselves on the stand with NO penalties after the fact, the defendant lied throughout the entire investigation about her own child being missing...everyone here knows what happened, I don't need to point it all out all over again.

The fact is, I don't want to be ANY part of this judicial system. I pay my taxes so I have no choice but to contribute that way. The bottom line for me is that I do not believe in our system after witnessing this as well as watching the wonderful work of the groups like the Innocent Project. I am personally choosing that I do not wish to participate in a system that can be mocked so blatantly and obviously in front of live cameras for all of us to see.

I just know that there are countless proceedings that aren't televised and researched as thoroughly as this one was. To me, this is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that our system gets it wrong a lot more times than we ever find out about in the news.

I am choosing to opt out.

As the OP of this thread, I would prefer that this doesn't become a debate as to why I should or should not have a desire to be on a jury. (As well as to stay on the topic of the thread.)

I am simply asking for help from the wonderful Web Sleuthers here in how I could word my reply to the Summons for Jury Duty with the limited amount of space that I have.

Just tell the truth, as you wrote. That is a valid reason to me and I totally understand why you feel that way and certainly many share your sentiments.

I initially felt the same but have recently had a change of heart and decided that all it takes is ONE person on a jury to make a difference, one person that listens to the facts, analyzes the facts and holds their ground even if it means they are up against 11 others pressuring them to give in. It takes one person who actually cares about justice. Imagine if that would have happened in this case.

Granna6
07-22-2011, 02:41 PM
I'm trying to come up with my request to be excused from jury duty. I have 238 characters to type in why I'd like to be excused but I need help with what to say.

I'd like to make sure that:
1. They are aware that I've always wanted to serve on a jury and have always believed it to be a great and fair procedure.
2. They understand that after Caylee's case that I have zero faith in our system and that I want no part of any of it because this is proof beyond ALL doubt that our system does not work properly and since the person guilty of murdering her own baby girl walks free, this also means that there are innocent people who have been wrongly convicted.

Can anyone please help me to get those points across in a professional manner with the few characters that I am allowed?



I'm not sure if I should post this as a new thread in a different part of the forum instead of here, any advise?

Thank you WS'ers for any help you can give me.

Good citizens like you are needed on juries. I was recently called for jury duty on a child molestation case. The main thing is to be honest when questioned, as I was almost to a "fault." They asked those who like to watch true crime shows to raise their hands. Mine went up, even though it would've been easy to lie. I was further questioned about which shows. I answered "Nancy Grace" and something else. Then I was personally asked if I thought molestation was a crime in its own categoy, separate from other types of crime. I said, "Yes, because it is an action against a person rather than something like theft which involves objects." Wow, I felt like I was on trial as the defense attorney seemed to zero in on me! I was not chosen for that jury. Turns out that the jury had barely been seated when the accused settled without a trial.

I also think that if chosen for a criminal jury, you go into it standing firm on your convictions and, if need be, will hang a jury rather than be intimiated or pressured to decide against your conscience. Yes, folks are accorded a jury of their peers, but that does not mean that we have to bow to peer pressure!

stephr
07-22-2011, 02:52 PM
Well, I think everything that has needed to be said someone has already posted. Being as I think I will feel better just to express my feelings, I am heartbroken, devastated, and have absolutely 0% faith in the Florida justice system. I have boy/girl 16 year old twins and a grandbaby on the way and I can not possibly fathom the thought of not knowing where they were for 31 days, not calling police, oh you know it all. I'm just sickened.


:banghead: :sick: :confused: :tears:

Starfish
07-23-2011, 11:39 AM
Its disturbing to think of the message the not guilty verdict sends to this already warped mind: Lying & stealing......works everytime, even with murder. OMG.....I'm so blessed to be such a good liar!

Trident
07-23-2011, 12:18 PM
Thank you for voicing your opinion, I appreciate your thoughts.

I have great confidence in my own abilities to serve on a jury which is why I always have wanted to be chosen to be on one.

I agree that it takes having the knowledge of the police, investigators, prosecution, witness testimony and whether or not they tell the truth, etc. There was definitely enough circumstantial evidence to find her guilty of the lessor charges but the way our system works it wasn't all allowed in, people perjured themselves on the stand with NO penalties after the fact, the defendant lied throughout the entire investigation about her own child being missing...everyone here knows what happened, I don't need to point it all out all over again.

The fact is, I don't want to be ANY part of this judicial system. I pay my taxes so I have no choice but to contribute that way. The bottom line for me is that I do not believe in our system after witnessing this as well as watching the wonderful work of the groups like the Innocent Project. I am personally choosing that I do not wish to participate in a system that can be mocked so blatantly and obviously in front of live cameras for all of us to see.

I just know that there are countless proceedings that aren't televised and researched as thoroughly as this one was. To me, this is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that our system gets it wrong a lot more times than we ever find out about in the news.

I am choosing to opt out.

As the OP of this thread, I would prefer that this doesn't become a debate as to why I should or should not have a desire to be on a jury. (As well as to stay on the topic of the thread.)

I am simply asking for help from the wonderful Web Sleuthers here in how I could word my reply to the Summons for Jury Duty with the limited amount of space that I have.

Perhaps getting up and out and doing your part as a juror would go a long way toward making the legal system something you believe in. If you opt out, I don't see that you have anyone to blame for a bad verdict, but yourself.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but if you won't help, who do you expect to do it?

MissJames
07-23-2011, 01:06 PM
I'm trying to come up with my request to be excused from jury duty. I have 238 characters to type in why I'd like to be excused but I need help with what to say.

I'd like to make sure that:
1. They are aware that I've always wanted to serve on a jury and have always believed it to be a great and fair procedure.
2. They understand that after Caylee's case that I have zero faith in our system and that I want no part of any of it because this is proof beyond ALL doubt that our system does not work properly and since the person guilty of murdering her own baby girl walks free, this also means that there are innocent people who have been wrongly convicted.

Can anyone please help me to get those points across in a professional manner with the few characters that I am allowed?

I'm not sure if I should post this as a new thread in a different part of the forum instead of here, any advise?

Thank you WS'ers for any help you can give me.

I think you should do it. Prove the system CAN work and just be honest,which ever way it goes.

You may get disqualified for simply being a WS BLOGGER :floorlaugh:

MissJames
07-23-2011, 01:11 PM
Thank you for voicing your opinion, I appreciate your thoughts.

I have great confidence in my own abilities to serve on a jury which is why I always have wanted to be chosen to be on one.

I agree that it takes having the knowledge of the police, investigators, prosecution, witness testimony and whether or not they tell the truth, etc. There was definitely enough circumstantial evidence to find her guilty of the lessor charges but the way our system works it wasn't all allowed in, people perjured themselves on the stand with NO penalties after the fact, the defendant lied throughout the entire investigation about her own child being missing...everyone here knows what happened, I don't need to point it all out all over again.

The fact is, I don't want to be ANY part of this judicial system. I pay my taxes so I have no choice but to contribute that way. The bottom line for me is that I do not believe in our system after witnessing this as well as watching the wonderful work of the groups like the Innocent Project. I am personally choosing that I do not wish to participate in a system that can be mocked so blatantly and obviously in front of live cameras for all of us to see.

I just know that there are countless proceedings that aren't televised and researched as thoroughly as this one was. To me, this is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that our system gets it wrong a lot more times than we ever find out about in the news.

I am choosing to opt out.

As the OP of this thread, I would prefer that this doesn't become a debate as to why I should or should not have a desire to be on a jury. (As well as to stay on the topic of the thread.)

I am simply asking for help from the wonderful Web Sleuthers here in how I could word my reply to the Summons for Jury Duty with the limited amount of space that I have.

Then you said it all in your OP,just as you expressed it to us :rocker:. If you get called in you will have a chance to say more than the 200+ characters.