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Richard
10-19-2004, 08:24 AM
Name: Barbara Rowan
Age at Time of Disapperance: 14
Gender: Female
From City/State: Bensalem, PA

Circumstances of Disappearance: Barbara left her first floor apartment at approximately 3:00pm on August 3, 1984 in the vicinity of the 4000 block of Old Lincoln Hwy, in Trevose, PA.

Circumstances of Discovery: Close to her residence on August 16, 1984, her nude body was found, bound and gagged. A vehicle had been seen in the area of her body and is described as a white, late 1970 full size car driven by an unknown male. The man is described as white with dark complexion, dark hair, mustache, possibly 20-30 years old and wearing a tan sports shirt. In addition, a dark green 1974 Chevrolet Impala was seen in the area. A suspect had been developed but could not be charged due to insufficient evidence.

Investigative Agency: Bensalem Police Department
Phone: (215) 633-3660
Website: http://www.bensalem-township.com/cis.asp

Link
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?C200301463W

Richard
10-22-2004, 11:14 PM
There are quite a few girls missing from Pennsylvania under suspicious circumstances. Here is one from the same town as Barbara Rowan, same age, missing only a year earlier. I wonder if there is a connection between this case and some of the others?

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TRACY ANN BYRD
DOB: Jul 7, 1968
Missing: Mar 7, 1983
Age at time: 14
Age Now: 36
Sex: Female
Race: White
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Height: 5'0" (152 cm)
Weight: 95 lbs (43 kg)
Missing From: BENSALEM TOWNSHIP, PA, United States
Non-Family Abduction

Child was last seen by a family friend who dropped her off at school. She did not attend classes that day. Child has pierced ears and her hair is strawberry blonde. Partial dental records are available.

Bensalem Township Police Department (Pennsylvania) - Missing Persons Unit 1-215-639-3700

Link
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=600609&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Richard
12-20-2005, 11:56 AM
I posted on the above two cases some time ago, but got no replies. I thought with the recent interest in similar cases, I would bump it up and see if anyone might be able to find more information on either of these two cases. I have a feeling that they might be linked, and if so, perhaps other similar cases might also be connected.

Mullins
12-22-2005, 11:32 AM
Any further information on the dark green 1974 impala? Was it just cited by a witness or did they find out whose it was?





Name: Barbara Rowan
Age at Time of Disapperance: 14
Gender: Female
From City/State: Bensalem, PA

Circumstances of Disappearance: Barbara left her first floor apartment at approximately 3:00pm on August 3, 1984 in the vicinity of the 4000 block of Old Lincoln Hwy, in Trevose, PA.

Circumstances of Discovery: Close to her residence on August 16, 1984, her nude body was found, bound and gagged. A vehicle had been seen in the area of her body and is described as a white, late 1970 full size car driven by an unknown male. The man is described as white with dark complexion, dark hair, mustache, possibly 20-30 years old and wearing a tan sports shirt. In addition, a dark green 1974 Chevrolet Impala was seen in the area. A suspect had been developed but could not be charged due to insufficient evidence.

Investigative Agency: Bensalem Police Department
Phone: (215) 633-3660
Website: http://www.bensalem-township.com/cis.asp

Link
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?C200301463W

awagner
12-23-2005, 02:20 AM
Shelly Luty was not that far from Bensalem either..
http://www.geocities.com/awagner615/Shelly_LutyMissing.html


[QUOTE=Richard]There are quite a few girls missing from Pennsylvania under suspicious circumstances. Here is one from the same town as Barbara Rowan, same age, missing only a year earlier. I wonder if there is a connection between this case and some of the others?

Yaya
12-23-2005, 08:17 AM
Thanks Richard for bumping this... I hope you will do it with more cases.

Seeing this makes me wonder if you haven't struck on something... you know yourself how hard it is for LE to make the connection sometimes.

marylandmissing
12-23-2005, 06:10 PM
Richard, they long have suspected a serial killer was operating in that area around this time...When I came to the Doe Network, I noticed a huge amount of brunettes missing in PA while searching for a match for the Frederick Jane doe. I sent a list to the state police here and was told investigators long since believe a serial killer was operating in the area. There was a truck driver interviewed with the Frederick Jane Doe case and apparently he operated in this area.

MD
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237ufmd.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237ufmd.html) 1991 Jane Doe, Frederick
Tracy Hoffmaster, found 1996 not far rom this site http://www.cityoffrederick.com/departments/Police/Homicides.htm (http://www.cityoffrederick.com/departments/Police/Homicides.htm)
PA cases:

1987 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/51dfpa.html
1988 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/461ufpa.html
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/899dfpa.html
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/601dfpa.html (may be domestic)
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/19dfpa.html
1990 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/246ufpa.html
1991 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/260dfpa.html
1991 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/166dfpa.html
1992 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/602dfpa.html
1992 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/179ufpa.html
1993 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/852dfpa.html
1993 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/769dfpa.html
1995 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1285dfpa.html

Richard
12-23-2005, 09:30 PM
Richard, they long have suspected a serial killer was operating in that area around this time...When I came to the Doe Network, I noticed a huge amount of brunettes missing in PA while searching for a match for the Frederick Jane doe. I sent a list to the state police here and was told investigators long since believe a serial killer was operating in the area. There was a truck driver interviewed with the Frederick Jane Doe case and apparently he operated in this area.

MD
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237ufmd.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237ufmd.html) 1991 Jane Doe, Frederick
Tracy Hoffmaster, found 1996 not far rom this site http://www.cityoffrederick.com/departments/Police/Homicides.htm (http://www.cityoffrederick.com/departments/Police/Homicides.htm)
PA cases:

1987 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/51dfpa.html
1988 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/461ufpa.html
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/899dfpa.html
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/601dfpa.html (may be domestic)
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/19dfpa.html
1990 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/246ufpa.html
1991 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/260dfpa.html
1991 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/166dfpa.html
1992 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/602dfpa.html
1992 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/179ufpa.html
1993 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/852dfpa.html
1993 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/769dfpa.html
1995 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1285dfpa.html
Thank you for all the links. Some of them I have seen, but others I had not. There definitely seems to be some patterns and similarities among them. It is hard to say if it is the same killer at work, or if there are several who do essentially the same thing. Frederick Maryland is very close to Pennsylvania. I go by it several times each year when driving to Gettysburg, PA.

Hollow
12-24-2005, 03:00 AM
http://www.pennsylvaniamissing.com/pages/3/page3.html?refresh=1105769139674

Hollow
12-25-2005, 05:57 PM
The Daily Intelligencer
Aug 19th 1984
Doylestown, PA

The search continued Saturday for suspects in the murder of a girl believed to be 14-year-old Barbara Rowan-missing for two weeks from her Bensalem trailer park home.
.......
The victim was suffocated according to Dr. Thomas J. Rosko, Buck's county coroner.
.......
The badly decomposed, partially clad body was discovered about 5:30 p.m Thursday in dense weeds about a dozen feet from the edge of Noth River Drive-scarcely a mile from her home-by a resident of a nearby cluster of River Drive homes who was looking for his dog....

Hollow
12-25-2005, 06:25 PM
The Daily Intelligencer
Nov 28th 1984
Doylestown PA
A sealed indictment handed up by a New Castle Del. grand jury led to the arrest last Friday of Paul Edward Greenwald, 38, of.....Philadelphia on charges he kidnapped and murdered his estranged wife Jean Louise Byrd, 36, of Bensalem Township.
.......
A spokesman for the Delaware State Troopers said the indictment states the murder of Mrs. Byrd occurred between Oct. 8th and Oct. 18th, 1983 in the Blackbird State Forest, a wilderness area about two miles east of Delaware's Route 13, south of Smyrna.
Mrs Byrd died of asphyxiation her mouth bound with heavy tape, according to records. She had been abducted from the apartment complex parking lot. Her decomposed body was found by a man walking through the woods 11 days after her kidnapping.
.......
In 1980 , Greenwald had been convicted of kidnapping Mrs. Byrd at knife point and was placed on probation.
.........
..said there was no evidence to link Greenwald to the girl's disappearance. An intense search of the area where Mrs. Byrd's partially clad body was turned up gave no evidence of her daughter.
Bensalem police declined to confirm foul play in Tracy's disappearance.They continue to list her as a missing person.They said she was driven by a friend of the family to Bensalem High School on Hulmeville road, but the girl never got to class.

mysteriew
12-25-2005, 06:31 PM
It just burns me when LE suspects a serial killer, and the don't advise the public. And that is supposed to be for our own good (to prevent a public panic)
Like that is supposed to outweigh the advantage of knowing that Hey, there is a serial killer out there and he may be running around looking for someone to murder.
The public seems to handle it ok when rapists and murderers break out of jail, and run, and LE wants them back. Even knowing that a desperate criminal is on the loose, the public is naturally interested but no panic.
I think the main reason they don't publicize a serial, is because they don't want the added pressure of the public scrunitizing their investigation into the murders and the pressure from the public to solve them.

Hollow
12-25-2005, 06:33 PM
It bugs me that they didn't think that all three of these cases were related. Hmmmm!!!

Hollow
12-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Tracy Byrd disappeared 7 months before her mother was murdered.

Hollow
12-25-2005, 06:50 PM
The Intelligencer
Sept. 13th, 1987
Doylestown PA

.......
On March 8, 1983, Tracy was dropped off at Bensalem High School by her mother's boyfriend, Paul Greenwald. Tracy, who had been suspended and hadn't told her mother, then unsuccessfully tried to get other friends to join her by skipping classes, since she wasn't allowed in the school.
Tracy apparentely then ran away that afternoon, leaving rumors circulating that she was pregnant.
.........
Greenwald pleaded guilty to her (Jean) murder, but no connection could be made to Tracy's disappearance. On the day of his sentencing, Greenwald was found dead in his cell of an overdose of medication.
According to Bensalem police Detective Terry Lachman, one of the few people who believes Tracy is still alive,believes Tracy may still be in the area Lachman said recently many calls have come in from people who went to school with her, saying they have seen her in places such as Space Port in Oxford Valley Mall and in Neshaminy Mall.

shadowangel
12-25-2005, 07:38 PM
Are any photos available of Greenwald to compare to the description of the man seen in the area of Rowan's body? It would be interesting to know what type of vehicle Greenwald was operating.

Is it possible that Tracey called Greenwald from school to pick up her when she was unable to talk any of her friends into mischief?

I'm also curious as to where Greenwald would have been working at the time of Tracey's disappearance.

Hollow
12-25-2005, 08:19 PM
I didn't find any photos of Greenwald, but another article I read stated theat he was being sentenced for a "manslaughter" charge. So, because he pled guilty they probably made him a deal. He would have been out again in no time flat.

mysteriew
12-25-2005, 08:32 PM
I didn't find any photos of Greenwald, but another article I read stated theat he was being sentenced for a "manslaughter" charge. So, because he pled guilty they probably made him a deal. He would have been out again in no time flat.
When was that? If he is still incarcerated, he might be on the correctional facility website with pic.

shadowangel
12-25-2005, 08:52 PM
According to Hollow's post (#15) Greenwald killed himself, I'm assuming sometime in '84.

Richard
12-26-2005, 09:03 AM
Are any photos available of Greenwald to compare to the description of the man seen in the area of Rowan's body? It would be interesting to know what type of vehicle Greenwald was operating.

Is it possible that Tracey called Greenwald from school to pick up her when she was unable to talk any of her friends into mischief?

I'm also curious as to where Greenwald would have been working at the time of Tracey's disappearance.
Greenwald would certainly have been photographed and fingerprinted as a routine procedure upon his arrest. Those photos should be available to investigators involved in the other two cases.

If Greenwald had been in his car at the time of arrest, or if it had been identified in a search warrant, that information would be available as well.

Hollow
12-27-2005, 02:17 AM
The Daily Intelligencer
Thursday, Dec 19th 1985
Doylestown PA

........After Greenwald decided to plead guilty, prosecutors tried unsuccessfully to obtain information from him concerning Tracy's disappearance, Jennings said.
" We were hoping we could get answers to a lot of questions," Jennings said "He admitted to nothing."
Jennings said Greenwald did not disclose a motive for killing Byrd. At the time of her disappearance, friends said she had seperated from him and grown fearful of him.
Two years before the murder, Greenwald pleaded guilty in Bucks County Court to kidnapping and assaulting Byrd in an incident that began in a Middletown apartment where she was staying with another man.
Greenwald stabbed the man with a knife, abducted Byrd and led police on a high-speed car chase into Trenton, where he was captured, according to police and court records.
Byrd, however, spoke in defense of Greenwald at his sentencing in that case, influencing Presideng Judge Isaac S. garb to sentence him to five years probation, said Robert Goldman, chief deputy district attorney, who handled the case.
"She spoke up to mitigate the facts" Goldman said "She made excuses for his actions. We didn't agree to probation. I'm sure the judge's sentencing was based in part on what Jean Byrd said about Greenwald."
Goldman said he saw the Byrd tragedy as a classic example of "battered woman syndrome."

Hollow
12-27-2005, 02:20 AM
Kind of off topic, with the Byrd case and all, (unless they are connected). Does anyone else think that maybe Tracy was pregnant and maybe the father might have been Paul Greenwald and that was the motive for killing Jean Byrd?? I also think it was odd that he committed suicide (if that is what happened) when facing a manslaughter charge, which was like nothing back then. Maybe his conscience got to him??

Hollow
12-27-2005, 02:40 AM
The Daily Intelligencer
Sunday Aug. 19th 1984
Doylestown PA

...The victim was suffocated, according to Dr. Thomas J. Rosko County Coroner.
...He said an effort is being made to locate dental records that could confirm the identification.
Rosko also said the victim suffered no broken bones, no stab wounds nor gunshot wounds. He listed the death as resulting from asphyxiation by suffocation.......
When Miss Rowan disappeared she was reportedly wearing a blue top, blue shorts and blue flip-flops. She was also carrying a softball and a baseball glove and a portable AM-FM cassette radio.
...The body had been covered with branches,indicating the murderer intended the body not be found.
...Zajac said Barbara's mother, Patricia, 31, who is a patient at Frankford Hospital's Torresdale Division where she had undergone gallbladder surgery, was informed by her husband, Robert T. Rowan, 41, of the finding of the girl's body.
It was Rowan who first drew public attention to his daughter's disappearance.
Rowan insisted his daughter had headed up Bristol Road to the Mall Motel about 3 p.m. to play with a girlfriend who lives there. He said he and his wife became concerned when she failed to return home at 5 p.m. He notified police at about 7:30 p.m.
Zajac discounted Rowan's time estimates, saying that the police were not notified until 9:28 p.m. He said investigators subsequently learned that Miss Rowan did not head for the motel but had been playing baseball in the trailer park.

Hollow
01-02-2006, 03:16 PM
In and around the time Barbara disappeared , in this area, the Warlock Motorcycle Gang seemed to be creating a lot of havoc. I at first discounted why in articles I read, police seemed to keep connecting them to suspicion on some of the disappearances of these young girls from the Philadelphia and Delaware County area. I read an article last night that a Robert " Mudman" Simon, who was a cop killer BTW and was beaten to death while sitting on Death Row by another inmate, was convicted of the 1977 death of a young lady named Beth Smith. Miss Smith's body was recovered from a water filled pit in Luzerne County PA. She had been shot once in the forehead. Mudman was convicted of her death because a fellow gang member made a deal with authorities and told of how Beth went to a party with Mudman and refused to share her favors with the whole gang so he shot her in the head with a revolver. Other people at the party also testified to this. It makes me wonder about these other four murders in that area:
Debra Jean Delozier 1975, found in the Tinicum Marsh, shot in the forehead
Denise Seaman 1975, found in the Tinicum Marsh, shot in the forehead
Mary Ann Lees 1975, found in the Schuylkill River, shot in the forehead
Layne Dorothy Spicer 1975, found in the Schuylkill river, shot in the forehead

Also Wendy Eaton, who is still listed as missing from this area, was a friend of Denise Seaman. I wonder how many of these 70's missing girls tie into Mudman.

Richard
01-02-2006, 10:13 PM
... Beth went to a party with Mudman and refused to share her favors with the whole gang so he shot her in the head with a revolver. Other people at the party also testified to this. It makes me wonder about these other four murders in that area:
Debra Jean Delozier 1975, found in the Tinicum Marsh, shot in the forehead
Denise Seaman 1975, found in the Tinicum Marsh, shot in the forehead
Mary Ann Lees 1975, found in the Schuylkill River, shot in the forehead
Layne Dorothy Spicer 1975, found in the Schuylkill river, shot in the forehead

Also Wendy Eaton, who is still listed as missing from this area, was a friend of Denise Seaman. I wonder how many of these 70's missing girls tie into Mudman.
These murders all sound very similar. It would be surprising if LE did not connect them back in 1975. What were the balistics on the weapon used? Was it the same caliber? Were any bullets or casings recovered?

Hollow
01-02-2006, 10:57 PM
I know the four girls found in the marsh and the schuylkill river were all shot with a 22 caliber revolver. In the story I found about Beth Smith being shot, Mudman's friend simply stated that he raised a revolver and shot her in the head. I don't know anything else.

Hollow
01-03-2006, 12:04 AM
Here's an article about Mudman

http://www.orchardpressmysteries.com/death_of_a_mudman.html

Hollow
01-16-2006, 09:35 AM
Other unsolved PA murders:

Mary Grace Triolo 15
A ninth grader in the Fairless School district, she was found strangled in Bristol PA on February 20 1965.

Karen Monhollen 14
Body found in Lima quarry in Middletown Township. No cause of death.

Susan Rush 21
Washington PA found in the trunk of her car in Washington PA, strangled. She was found on Feb 24th 1976.

Brenda Lee Ritter 18
Left her boyfriends house in Washington PA, her car was found the next day in South Strabane and her body was found the same day in North Strabane strangled, on May 18 1977.

Joan Rasperger 15
The Slickville, West Moreland County girl was found in a wooded area. No cause of death. Nov 1977.

Hollow
01-16-2006, 10:18 AM
More unsolved PA murders:

Delores Dellapenna 17
From Philadelphia PA, Wildwood
Disappeared July 11th 1972 while walking to a trolley stop. Torso found July 22nd in Jackson Township N.J and legs found on July 29th in Manchester N.Jin wooded area.

Valerie Seibert 16
From Philadelphia PA
Found on March 4th 1975 on a Wrightstown farm shot and killed.

Patty Bartlett 17
From Lower Makefield
Stabbed to death on January 13th 1975 at Oxford Valley Mall.

Shaun Ritterson 20
worked at Bristol Simon and Schuster book warehouse
Found nude, stabbed and disemboweled on June 12 1978 on a remote Buckingham mountain.

Earseline Jones 20
worked also at Bristol Simon and Schuster book warehouse
Found mutilated and stabbed on the Penn Warner Club grounds in Falls Township PA on August 27 1978

Richard
03-15-2006, 10:39 PM
Just thought that I would bump this case up. There was some good discussion about possible serial killers in PA. Anything new?

Hollow
07-27-2006, 11:50 AM
This sounds like more of the work of David Robert Kennedy:

The Post Standard
September 26, 1967

TEENAGE GIRL FOUND SLAIN IN ERIE BOULEVARD E. LOT

Rose Spina missing two days.

A 17-year-old girl missing from her home since Saturday was found brutally slain at about 5 p.m. yesterday beside a parking area near an old railroad bed at Erie Blvd., E. and Walnut avenue.

...said the girl was nude from the waist down and her slip had been twisted around her neck....

Hollow
07-27-2006, 11:55 AM
I think there were at least three serial killers operating in this area in the late 60s, early/mis 70s and possibly even longer. I'm not kidding when I say that if I lived in this area, I would organize a search effort to search the woods, strip mines, and vacant lot/abandoned areas and find all of those girls that have still not been recovered. I know they are there, just not found. I think, and this is just my opinion, that Kennedy is the chief of most of these killings. I think he was only charged with a couple, but he had a very distinct signiture, which is fully recognizable.

Hollow
07-27-2006, 05:41 PM
Richard, they long have suspected a serial killer was operating in that area around this time...When I came to the Doe Network, I noticed a huge amount of brunettes missing in PA while searching for a match for the Frederick Jane doe. I sent a list to the state police here and was told investigators long since believe a serial killer was operating in the area. There was a truck driver interviewed with the Frederick Jane Doe case and apparently he operated in this area.

MD
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237ufmd.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237ufmd.html) 1991 Jane Doe, Frederick
Tracy Hoffmaster, found 1996 not far rom this site http://www.cityoffrederick.com/departments/Police/Homicides.htm (http://www.cityoffrederick.com/departments/Police/Homicides.htm)
PA cases:

1987 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/51dfpa.html
1988 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/461ufpa.html
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/899dfpa.html
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/601dfpa.html (may be domestic)
1989 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/19dfpa.html
1990 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/246ufpa.html
1991 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/260dfpa.html
1991 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/166dfpa.html
1992 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/602dfpa.html
1992 Jane Doe http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/179ufpa.html
1993 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/852dfpa.html
1993 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/769dfpa.html
1995 http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1285dfpa.html
About Goble, he took their shoes ??? What a weirdo !!! I'm going to work on the identity of Frederick Jane Doe, this is interesting.

Richard
03-08-2007, 01:07 PM
Paper: Morning Call, The (Allentown, PA)
Title: MUDMAN'S LIFE WAS NOT PRECIOUS
Date: September 10, 1999

The late Philip Wylie, America's shamefully underappreciated literary titan, came up with the solution to war in a single succinct paragraph.

Instead of sending innocent young men to slaughter each other, he wrote, national leaders should be required to settle disputes (and satiate their lust for combat) by personally facing off, in an arena, armed with socks full of dung.If you think about it, Wylie's approach would work as well as anything else mankind has devised, but I suspect that greedy defense contractors successfully lobbied against it.

I read Wylie as a youth and I'm not sure if his iconoclasm helped make me the way I am, or if I was drawn to him because I was already predisposed along those lines. Either way, his harsh logic came to mind when I saw the story about the passing of Robert "Mudman" Simon.

Simon and another inmate faced off in the arena of Trenton State Prison, and Simon was beaten to death. My first reaction was that the victorious inmate should be given a medal.

Simon was in prison for killing a New Jersey police officer 11 weeks after Pennsylvania gave him a parole in the case of a murder in Jim Thorpe. (He had killed Beth Dusenberg, 19, because she declined his invitation to be the guest of honor at a gang rape by the Warlocks motorcycle gang.)

The cop he killed was Hispanic. While in prison, Simon vowed to kill one minority inmate per day. He did manage to kill one, but was acquitted. So there was some poetic justice in the fact that the man who beat Simon to death, Ambrose Harris, is black.


Before we pin a medal on Harris, however, let's consider his case. He abducted a lovely young Bucks County artist in a carjacking, locked her in the trunk of her car for several hours, sodomized her and then killed her.

If you say the life of Kristin Huggins was precious and should have been protected at all costs, you'll get no argument from me. I can't agree, however, that all life is precious.

I never met Simon or Harris, but I have met hundreds of prison inmates, including Pennsylvania's two most notorious -- Stanley Hoss, who lived way too long, and Danny Delker, who is from Catasauqua.

Hoss, Delker and Simon were remarkably similar -- savage racists who enjoyed inflicting pain.

Are such lives precious? Not to me, they aren't. In fact, the prolonged preservation of such lives too often results in the destruction of decent people. You may recall the news stories about Hoss and Delker jumping a prison guard and bludgeoning him to death because he was black.

And the mayhem caused by such people is not confined to prisons.

Simon's 1995 state parole was intensely controversial, in hindsight, but understandable.

About 80 percent of American prison inmates are confined because of drug-related crimes. Amid today's drug hysteria, there is intense political pressure to jail even more. That means the system must turn loose killers like Simon to make room for some pathetic junkie who poses a threat to no one but himself.
Meanwhile, do long prison terms serve as a deterrent? Getting caught may be a tangible fear in a criminal mind, but I bet the difference between short and long prison terms is nothing but an abstraction.

If long prison terms do no good, what shall we do with those for whom release is not tolerable -- the Mudman Simons of the world?

In some minds, the obvious answer to that question is too cruel for words. But for any normal human being, death would be less cruel than many long years in prison.

Therefore, taking a cue from Philip Wylie, I offer this paragraph:

Limit maximum prison terms to three years. If the crime is too vicious for a three-year term, impose the death penalty, once the defendant's constitutional rights have been carefully, but swiftly, accommodated.

In the long run, that'd be more humane for all concerned, except the greedy bureaucracies that profit from America having the world's biggest prison population, per capita.

CCJD
07-10-2007, 09:54 PM
I didn't find a thread dedicated to Tracy Byrd, but since she was discussed here, I opted to post the following link. It's a video interview with Det Chris McMullin of Bensalem PD (PA) with the latest developements about Tracy's disappearance and the DNA comparison being done with 461ufpa.

Link to video:
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=3646429

Link to both cases on Doe Network:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/9dfpa.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/461ufpa.html

Ms Suzanne
07-11-2007, 11:35 AM
Hi
I have dial up so I can not see this video.Can you please tell me what detective mullins said.Are there any news paper articles on what he said.I had looked into this Jane Doe possibly being my sister awhile back.I thought I heard they already checked DNA with Tracy Bird and this Jane Doe and it didn't match.

suzanne

Richard
07-25-2007, 11:41 PM
bumping these cases up...

Richard
08-12-2008, 03:34 PM
bumping up...

meryl
03-10-2009, 02:12 AM
...when there is a fresh new snowfall that is still clinging to the branches.

I never met her ...but we had so much in common.

An amature photographer, she went to the mall that day to get film for her 35mm for what would probably be her first snow shots.

Although I had considered taking similar photos that day, I was also out of film, and decided not to chance driving on the icy roads ...

To this day, I have not been able to take those snow shots because I still think of her, and how she fought to live that day.

Patty's murder remain's unsolved, but I believe she was killed by the same man who was eventually convicted of stabbing a woman to death in a motel room on route 13 in Bristol Township some years later.

This man had also been put on juvenile probation half a dozen times for sexual assaults as a young teenager, but you dare not mention the crimes one committed as a juvenile when he is finally caught literallly red-handed, and is finally old enough to prosecute.

Although I fear the worst...I pray he is still in prison.

Rest in Peace , Patty... Someday, I will take those photos FOR you.



More unsolved PA murders:

Patty Bartlett 17
From Lower Makefield
Stabbed to death on January 13th 1975 at Oxford Valley Mall.

Richard
08-08-2009, 07:46 AM
...due to recent interest on another thread.

Kat
08-15-2009, 06:04 PM
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times/courier_times_news_details/article/28/2009/august/15/25-years-later-painful-questions-remain.html


(no date on publication of article that I could find)

25 years later, painful questions remain

...Barbara's body was found 25 years ago this Sunday. Her murder is unsolved.

In 1984, detectives believed they had tracked down the killer, sources close to the investigation said. He was a neighbor - a man whose own daughter played with Barbara, those sources said.

But the evidence fell short. The next year, that man was charged with raping a woman but convicted of lesser charges...



Much more at link. Rest in peace Barbara.

:+:MrTT:+:
08-15-2009, 09:07 PM
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times/courier_times_news_details/article/28/2009/august/15/25-years-later-painful-questions-remain.html


(no date on publication of article that I could find)

25 years later, painful questions remain



Much more at link. Rest in peace Barbara.

August 15, 2009 02:30 AM
Its from today, its located at the very bottom of the article, thanks for posting

Unknownlady
08-17-2009, 09:17 PM
Richard - you are the bomb!

I found an update article in the Bucks County Courier Times DATED 8/16/09 regarding Barbara Rowan - no new clues, just a redo...here are the reporters listed on the story...

bfinley@phillyburbs.com (215)949-4203
gmatter@pilyburbs.com (215) 949-4165

Here are some facts - -

1 - Upper Darby is no where near Bensalem, PA.
2 - Could the Mudman be related to the Tinicum Marsh Murders?
3 - Could the Tinicum Marsh Murders be related to Beth Doe?
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/169ufpa.html
4. All of these old links are no good - the Doe Netwoek Link is ".org", not ". us".

Thanks Everyone!


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Unknownlady
08-17-2009, 09:50 PM
meryl,

Patty Bartlett, stabbed to death at Oxford Valley Mall, Lower Makefield, PA 1975

Unknown, Route 13 motel stabbing murder, Bristol Twp., Pa - "years later" - When? Can you identify this crime?

Why the connection? Give me some info.

I am looking for a link to Beth Doe - 169UFPA

Thanks, Staceyk

skeet
11-27-2012, 07:29 PM
Richard - you are the bomb!

I found an update article in the Bucks County Courier Times DATED 8/16/09 regarding Barbara Rowan - no new clues, just a redo...here are the reporters listed on the story...

bfinley@phillyburbs.com (215)949-4203
gmatter@pilyburbs.com (215) 949-4165

Here are some facts - -

1 - Upper Darby is no where near Bensalem, PA.
2 - Could the Mudman be related to the Tinicum Marsh Murders?
3 - Could the Tinicum Marsh Murders be related to Beth Doe?
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/169ufpa.html
4. All of these old links are no good - the Doe Netwoek Link is ".org", not ". us".

Thanks Everyone!


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Regarding #3, I wondered that myself since mudmad had ties to carbon county killing his girlfriend in Jim Thorpe. There is a lot written about him but in google searches you find most of it has to do with the killing of a cop and also his own death by another inmate, I did see one article where in 1975 he was in prison and requesting work release to either Luzerne County or Carbon County, but he was denied. I think at that time he was in prison for robbery. What I can't find is his criminal history in the form of a time line to see if he was possibly out of prison in 1976, he was arrested in 1982 for the murder of his girlfriend I think he was in prison at the time they arrested him for that but I just can't find out where he was in 1976.

skeet
12-10-2012, 05:48 PM
Found another article on mudman, on articles.mcall.com, May 08, 1995, it says that Simon was continuously imprisoned since 1977, so its possible he was roaming around in Dec of 1976.

skeet
12-11-2012, 12:29 PM
Ok looks like Simon was sentenced in February of 1976 to 5 to 10 years, so I guess I can rule him out for Beth Doe.

Filly
07-07-2013, 02:58 PM
The body of a woman, caucasian, probably in her 30's was found across from the Mall Motel on Olde Lincoln Highway on Friday.





http://bensalem.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/womans-body-found-off-lincoln-highway

Autopsy was today and no word on COD, but so close to where Barbara lived.

Filly
07-07-2013, 03:06 PM
More unsolved PA murders:

Delores Dellapenna 17
From Philadelphia PA, Wildwood
Disappeared July 11th 1972 while walking to a trolley stop. Torso found July 22nd in Jackson Township N.J and legs found on July 29th in Manchester N.Jin wooded area.


Shaun Ritterson 20
worked at Bristol Simon and Schuster book warehouse
Found nude, stabbed and disemboweled on June 12 1978 on a remote Buckingham mountain.



In the case of Shaun Ritterson they did a long article in our paper last year. They believe her Uncle Harry murdered her.


http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/the-girl-on-church-hill-person-of-interest-very-much/article_f3f0c841-3d48-591d-9e56-b75c77cd4326.html


In the case of Delores I do not believe she is connected to any of these other murders. RIP Delores.

toscaxyz
07-07-2013, 03:16 PM
In the case of Shaun Ritterson they did a long article in our paper last year. They believe her Uncle Harry murdered her.


http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/the-girl-on-church-hill-person-of-interest-very-much/article_f3f0c841-3d48-591d-9e56-b75c77cd4326.html



One of the reporters who wrote that story posted a week or so ago in the Shaun Ritterson thread that they were not able to get any usable DNA from the crime scene evidence, so the case will likely remain unsolved. The uncle who was the main suspect died earlier this year.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/my_town/dna-tests-inconclusive-in-bristol-woman-s-unsolved-murder/article_e4e6fb54-69ea-57c8-b282-9921ff52494c.html

ScarlettScarpetta
12-29-2013, 09:48 PM
It amazes me how many horrible murders there have been in bucks county.

morf13
01-02-2014, 09:15 AM
There are quite a few girls missing from Pennsylvania under suspicious circumstances. Here is one from the same town as Barbara Rowan, same age, missing only a year earlier. I wonder if there is a connection between this case and some of the others?

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TRACY ANN BYRD
DOB: Jul 7, 1968
Missing: Mar 7, 1983
Age at time: 14
Age Now: 36
Sex: Female
Race: White
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Height: 5'0" (152 cm)
Weight: 95 lbs (43 kg)
Missing From: BENSALEM TOWNSHIP, PA, United States
Non-Family Abduction

Child was last seen by a family friend who dropped her off at school. She did not attend classes that day. Child has pierced ears and her hair is strawberry blonde. Partial dental records are available.

Bensalem Township Police Department (Pennsylvania) - Missing Persons Unit 1-215-639-3700

Link
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=600609&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US


Rowan & Byrd cases may definitely be related. Both the same age when they vanished,about a year apart, both in the same area. I live about 35 minutes from the area, and the town is relatively small. The issue, is within 5 minutes, you can be on a bridge to NJ, or headed towards a bigger city like Philadelphia,but their town itself is pretty small.

morf13
01-02-2014, 09:25 AM
More unsolved PA murders:

Delores Dellapenna 17
From Philadelphia PA, Wildwood
Disappeared July 11th 1972 while walking to a trolley stop. Torso found July 22nd in Jackson Township N.J and legs found on July 29th in Manchester N.Jin wooded area.

Valerie Seibert 16
From Philadelphia PA
Found on March 4th 1975 on a Wrightstown farm shot and killed.

Patty Bartlett 17
From Lower Makefield
Stabbed to death on January 13th 1975 at Oxford Valley Mall.

Shaun Ritterson 20
worked at Bristol Simon and Schuster book warehouse
Found nude, stabbed and disemboweled on June 12 1978 on a remote Buckingham mountain.

Earseline Jones 20
worked also at Bristol Simon and Schuster book warehouse
Found mutilated and stabbed on the Penn Warner Club grounds in Falls Township PA on August 27 1978


Dellapena case- Philadelphia/Wildwood, you mentioned "legs found in Manchester", Manchester, not really all that close to Wildwood. Jackson,not all that far from Manchester. Here's my take- Perp drove her /her body from Philly to Manchester(very possibly drove by my house),dumped herlegs first in Manchester,likely driving via route 70,then took route 70 to Rt 537 or 539. If I wanted to drive to Jackson, I would leave my house, drive down 70, to manchester, then out to 539/537, and out to Jackson, where 6Flags Great Adventure is. I feel the perp likely drove this route. Manchester is heavily wooded on both side of route 70 in the pine barrens,the whole body could have been disposed of there,I dont see the need to dispose of only part there,and the rest in Jackson. Jackson is also heavily wooded in some parts, but also has some farms & farm lands too. It has been heavily developed in more recent years. Manchester is an area you drive thru to get somewhere else, not really a destination.

morf13
01-02-2014, 09:32 AM
More unsolved PA murders:

Delores Dellapenna 17
From Philadelphia PA, Wildwood
Disappeared July 11th 1972 while walking to a trolley stop. Torso found July 22nd in Jackson Township N.J and legs found on July 29th in Manchester N.Jin wooded area.

Valerie Seibert 16
From Philadelphia PA
Found on March 4th 1975 on a Wrightstown farm shot and killed.

Patty Bartlett 17
From Lower Makefield
Stabbed to death on January 13th 1975 at Oxford Valley Mall.

Shaun Ritterson 20
worked at Bristol Simon and Schuster book warehouse
Found nude, stabbed and disemboweled on June 12 1978 on a remote Buckingham mountain.

Earseline Jones 20
worked also at Bristol Simon and Schuster book warehouse
Found mutilated and stabbed on the Penn Warner Club grounds in Falls Township PA on August 27 1978

Seibert case-It mentions 'Wrightstown'. I dont know of any Wrightstown in PA, but there is one in NJ about 45 minutes from Philadelphia. It's a town sorrounded by Fort Dix Army & McGuire Air Force bases. I Lived there for about 10 years in the 1980's. It's a small town, in the 1980's it was a strip town filled with hotels, gas stations, bars, and fast food places. There are some rural parts of it with farms & woods too. Does anybody know for sure if this town in NJ was the town where Seibert's Body was found, or is there a town by the same name in PA?

morf13
01-02-2014, 09:33 AM
Any of these southern NJ/PA border cases I am glad to help with,I have lived in South Jersey my entire life,and am very familiar with the area. If anybody has any questions about the area,layout,towns, history,etc, let me know

toscaxyz
01-02-2014, 10:01 AM
Seibert case-It mentions 'Wrightstown'. I dont know of any Wrightstown in PA, but there is one in NJ about 45 minutes from Philadelphia. It's a town sorrounded by Fort Dix Army & McGuire Air Force bases. I Lived there for about 10 years in the 1980's. It's a small town, in the 1980's it was a strip town filled with hotels, gas stations, bars, and fast food places. There are some rural parts of it with farms & woods too. Does anybody know for sure if this town in NJ was the town where Seibert's Body was found, or is there a town by the same name in PA?

There is a Wrightstown in Bucks County, not far from Buckingham where Shaun Ritterson was found. Wrightstown is, even today, not densely populated, so I assume it was even more rural in 1975. It is, however, near the intersection of two roads -- Rtes 413 and 232 -- that are major cross-county routes.

morf13
01-02-2014, 10:13 AM
There is a Wrightstown in Bucks County, not far from Buckingham where Shaun Ritterson was found. Wrightstown is, even today, not densely populated, so I assume it was even more rural in 1975. It is, however, near the intersection of two roads -- Rtes 413 and 232 -- that are major cross-county routes.

Thanks for that,and now that you mention it, I do recall from years back somebody pointing that out.

scriptgirl
03-07-2014, 10:11 PM
Crazy case. I don't think this is connected with shelly luty.