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whiteangora
07-23-2011, 12:35 PM
Just announced on FOX. She was found dead in her apartment.
She was so talented and I loved her music so much.

tlcya
07-23-2011, 12:38 PM
Unfortunately this comes as no surprise. Yet another young talent, wasted by a lifestyle that leads to nowhere but destruction.

whiteangora
07-23-2011, 12:39 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-dead--Found-dead-London-flat.html

Amy Winehouse has been found dead at her home in London, it has been reported.
The Back To Black singer was apparently found at 4pm and her death is believed to be unexplained.

tlcya
07-23-2011, 12:43 PM
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/07/amy_winehouse_f.php

While it is too early to know the cause of death, because of Amy's very public battle with addictions it is being speculated her death is due to an overdose.

davehead21
07-23-2011, 12:52 PM
Not a big surprise but it's very sad. She was super talented and I always hoped that she would get herself together. :(

hannahsnana
07-23-2011, 12:54 PM
I just read this at the BBC site while I was reading up on the Oslo attacks. I actually gasped outloud, but I know I shouldn't be surprised. Loved her singing. Too sad.

TexasLori
07-23-2011, 12:54 PM
Wow. I hadn't heard anything about her in quite awhile. I was hoping because of that she was getting back on track. Too sad.

southcitymom
07-23-2011, 12:55 PM
May she rest in peace.

27=Saturn return

Dark Knight
07-23-2011, 12:59 PM
I cannot say I am surprised either, may she finally RIP.

Sleuthster
07-23-2011, 01:05 PM
RIP Amy :(

MaryLiz
07-23-2011, 01:05 PM
I'm not surprised either, but how incredibly sad. She had an amazing voice.

RIP Amy.

theforgotten
07-23-2011, 01:13 PM
R.I.P. Amy~So sad, but I hate to admit it wasn't unexpected! Such a waste of talent!

gngr~snap
07-23-2011, 01:17 PM
17909
wow wasn't she pregnant? no? May be think someone else.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/23/amy-winehouse-dead-dies-london-apartment/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/23/amy-winehouse-dead-dies-london-apartment/)

http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?nItemID=40456 (http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?nItemID=40456)

nosysw
07-23-2011, 01:18 PM
I'm sorry to say when someone mentioned her a few weeks ago I said she would be the next Janis Joplin...certainly wasn't hoping for it or expecting it this soon. So sad when talent is wasted like this. I hope she finds the peace she did not find on earth...

athy
07-23-2011, 01:19 PM
this is really a shame. she was talented though i can't say i really liked or know much about her music but i could tell from what i have heard that she had talent. as others have said it isn't a surprise with all the issues with her lifestyle. perhaps now she'll be able to find the peace that alluded her in life.

Kristins1223
07-23-2011, 01:23 PM
Another member of the 27 club. So so sad but she's struggled for awhile.

charok
07-23-2011, 01:25 PM
WHAT?????? id seen her for years on the tabloids, but only recently heard her ( this is after she started going downhill, i remember when she came out so healthy, now...) and i was FLOORED< i could not believe her voice...wow, what a waste...i too hoped she was coming for a comeback..may she RIP finally

CarlK90245
07-23-2011, 01:29 PM
Add one more to the 27 club.

Other musicians who died at 27 years old:

Jimi Hendrix
Jim Morrison
Janis Joplin
Kurt Cobain
Brian Jones (Rolling Stones)
Ron "Pigpen" McKernan (Grateful Dead)
Pete Ham (Badfinger)
Alan "Blind Owl" Wilson (Canned Heat)

Edit To Add:
Another member of the 27 club. So so sad but she's struggled for awhile.
You beat me to it Kristins.

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 01:31 PM
A cautionary tale. Requiescat in pace, Amy Winehouse.

smart blonde
07-23-2011, 01:33 PM
Oh, this is sad.

Although it seems this has been a long time coming, and it's not really surprising, it is just really sad.

So much talent, such a beautiful, unique voice and style.

Rest in peace, Amy. Thank you for the awesome music you contributed to the universe.

legalmania
07-23-2011, 01:34 PM
That is so sad such a great talent gone. She should have listened to her own words and went to rehab.

charok
07-23-2011, 01:35 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-dead--Found-dead-London-flat.html

Amy Winehouse has been found dead at her home in London, it has been reported.
The Back To Black singer was apparently found at 4pm and her death is believed to be unexplained.

man thanks for the article. the recent pics of her appx 1 month, she actually looked better than i had in a long time...such a shame.

1tasha
07-23-2011, 01:38 PM
Really sad to see this happen. I bet every news outlet had her obit at the ready a long time ago. RIP.

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 01:39 PM
I'm sorry to say when someone mentioned her a few weeks ago I said she would be the next Janis Joplin...

Amy's mom's name is Janis.

Steely Dan
07-23-2011, 01:40 PM
Unfortunately this comes as no surprise. Yet another young talent, wasted by a lifestyle that leads to nowhere but destruction.

I think that dealing with the trappings of stardom that comes on suddenly is difficult for some people.

It sounds like her ex was a very bad influence. It sounds like she married her own Bobby Brown but was smart enough to get out after a little while.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/07/amy_winehouse_f.php

While it is too early to know the cause of death, because of Amy's very public battle with addictions it is being speculated her death is due to an overdose.

I don't think it's a stretch to put that forward as a theory right now. It's sad that she wasn't able to accept the guidance she so desperately needed.

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 01:43 PM
Really sad to see this happen. I bet every news outlet had her obit at the ready a long time ago. RIP.

Telegraph obit. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/tv-radio-obituaries/8657048/Amy-Winehouse.html)

smart blonde
07-23-2011, 01:44 PM
&#x202a;Amy Winehouse - Rehab&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 01:48 PM
&#x202a;Amy Winehouse - Back to Black (Live at Glastonbury 2008) HD 720p&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

Silkprint
07-23-2011, 01:54 PM
27 years old
How tragic
RIP

badhorsie
07-23-2011, 01:55 PM
Poor Amy, and I thought today couldn't get any worse. Another one lost to the "stupid club"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll7UFxqI2pM

capps
07-23-2011, 01:56 PM
She was a troubled soul....

Steely Dan
07-23-2011, 01:56 PM
Before listening to those two videos I'd never heard her sing before. She did have a lot of talent.

defense101
07-23-2011, 01:57 PM
This is sad,

http://www.680news.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/article/257307--police-singer-amy-winehouse-found-dead-at-her-home-in-london

Dr. Know?
07-23-2011, 01:57 PM
Amy was my favorite singer and I hoped she could kick her habits. RIP Amy! Even old ladies loved ya! Sad.

peeples
07-23-2011, 01:59 PM
probably an OD
RIP Amy

crystalgenie
07-23-2011, 01:59 PM
Such a beautiful voice came to such a sad end.

Dr. Know?
07-23-2011, 02:01 PM
Amy Winehouse Joins Unfortunate “27 Club”

http://blogs.forbes.com/kiriblakeley/2011/07/23/amy-winehouse-joins-unfortunate-27-club/

thx Q

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 02:05 PM
Guardian interview (http://tiny.cc/6j9ms) with Tony Bennett talking about performing with Amy (starts about 2:20).

waltzingmatilda
07-23-2011, 02:10 PM
This makes me so sad. I loved 'Back to Black'. She was so talented and had an incredible voice. I am so sorry she lost her struggle with the demons in her life. MOO

According to TMZ there were no signs of foul play and an autopsy is scheduled for tomorrow.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/23/amy-winehouse-dies-dead-london-apartment-foul-play-autopsy-scotland-yard/

RIP Amy......

wm

JoeFromLB
07-23-2011, 02:19 PM
Before the drugs got a hold on her:

http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/images/2008/3/amy-winehouse-before-drugs.jpg

Quiche
07-23-2011, 02:23 PM
Very sad, I was rooting for her. :cry:

badhorsie
07-23-2011, 02:25 PM
Here she is last wednesday, supporting her god daughter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qQAnNARrWs

Fairy1
07-23-2011, 02:26 PM
:( I was so hoping she could get better and give us more incredible music. What a tragic waste.

RIP Amy.

scorekeeper
07-23-2011, 02:31 PM
so sad; such a tragedy; so talented; so troubled; so young; yes, another member of the 27 club; will be greatly missed; unbelieveable voice; Amy, RIP; may you now find peace.

waltzingmatilda
07-23-2011, 03:12 PM
This is one of my favs! Thank you Amy!

&#x202a;Amy Winehouse - Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 03:13 PM
Other artists who have died, aged 27:

• Rupert Brooke (poet)
• Robert Johnson (bluesman)
• D. Boon (Minutemen)
• Dave Alexander (Stooges)
• Chris Bell (Big Star)
• Jean-Michel Basquiat (artist)
• Richey Edwards (Manic Street Preachers; disappeared age 27)

1tasha
07-23-2011, 03:17 PM
Before the drugs got a hold on her:

http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/images/2008/3/amy-winehouse-before-drugs.jpg

What a beautiful girl!

I thought Tony Bennet's interview about her was sweet. She just looked so sickly, strung out and tired for YEARS.

ETA: Thanks Waltzing! That's my favorite version of that song.

AnotherGladysKravitz
07-23-2011, 03:25 PM
RIP Amy

SuziQ
07-23-2011, 03:26 PM
RIP Amy

I hope you can find some happiness in the afterworld.

Melanie
07-23-2011, 03:34 PM
Just one month ago :(

Such a waste!!

&#x202a;Amy Winehouse Drunk On Stage? Singer Cancels Part of Tour&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

TGIRecovered
07-23-2011, 03:46 PM
I learned years ago while in rehab for alcohol, that many addicts accidentally overdose after a period of sobriety. I don't know if she was trying to get off of the drugs and alcohol, but it makes sense that she was out of the limelight for a period of time before her death.

If she abstained for awhile then fell off the wagon, her tolerance level would be much less than before. if she was addicted to alcohol and tried to quit drinking without medical care, that could have killed her as well. That is why it is so important to be under the care of professionals when trying to recover!

I am so very grateful to God that I had the opportunity to get proper help and was able to recover successfully, and I am sad for those poor souls who don't make it!

Melanie
07-23-2011, 03:48 PM
I learned years ago while in rehab for alcohol, that many addicts accidentally overdose after a period of sobriety. I don't know if she was trying to get off of the drugs and alcohol, but it makes sense that she was out of the limelight for a period of time before her death.

If she abstained for awhile then fell off the wagon, her tolerance level would be much less than before. if she was addicted to alcohol and tried to quit drinking without medical care, that could have killed her as well. That is why it is so important to be under the care of professionals when trying to recover!

I am so very grateful to God that I had the opportunity to get proper help and was able to recover successfully, and I am sad for those poor souls who don't make it!

Hugs TGI - I'm so proud of you! I would think all that money would buy them some recovery - but I guess not. I look at Brooke Mueller, Charlie Sheen, Lindsey Lohan and ask myself "who's next"?

So sad....

Mel

PeteyGirl
07-23-2011, 03:58 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/23/entertainment/main20082454.shtml

What a sad waste of a life :(

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 04:25 PM
Here's Amy's Guardian obit (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/23/amy-winehouse-obituary).

And a Mojo summary: Amy Winehouse, R.I.P. (http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2011/07/farewell_amy_winehouse.html)

Emma Peel
07-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Oh gosh.

My prayers go out to her family.

:(

It's so sad to see such an incredible talent self-destruct.


Amy Winehouse:
They tried to make me go to rehab. I said "no, no, no"

lyric from her song "Rehab"

LaLaw2000
07-23-2011, 04:50 PM
RIP Amy Winehouse. 27 is just too young to die.

Prayers for family and friends.

Melanie
07-23-2011, 04:52 PM
Hi,

There's an ongoing thread here:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145428&highlight=amy+winehouse

BeanE
07-23-2011, 04:52 PM
So sad. She was so darn young, and so talented.

http://www.musicrooms.net/files/artists/amy_winehouse_449411918.jpg

Rest in peace, Amy.

Nova
07-23-2011, 04:52 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/23/entertainment/main20082454.shtml

What a sad waste of a life :(

I don't imagine anyone is surprised, but, yes, what a waste!

Melanie
07-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Here's Amy's Guardian obit (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/23/amy-winehouse-obituary).

And a Mojo summary: Amy Winehouse, R.I.P. (http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2011/07/farewell_amy_winehouse.html)

There was always talk that the large newspapers/media had written the obit for Amy quite awhile ago. The publication of this obit kinds makes me think that talk was spot on.

So sad to see how many saw this coming, but Amy did not. I hope she finds some peace now.

Mel

PeteyGirl
07-23-2011, 04:56 PM
No, not surprised at all. And that itself is sadder than anything else :(

mollymil23
07-23-2011, 05:05 PM
Amy, Amy, Amy...

Man...this was a harsh one when my mom broke it to me this morning in the park. I had avoided Amy, turned off by what I had seen of her tabloid habits. Then I heard her...and I was floored and talk about addicted. Ask my DH and kids...one of her songs is usually eiter playing or badly emanating from my lips, and def stuck in my head. Things seemed like they were starting to turn for her. I was hoping anyhow. I was glad to hear she had taken the initiative to get into rehab before her comeback show, but saddened to see she came out completely inebriated. It takes steps though, and not all of them are forward. Unfortunately this step was the last and that is sad.

What ever happened, how ever she reached her final rest, I hope she can find the peace that her troubled soul seemed to desperately struggle to reach for while she graced this plane.
I hope there are a few tracks out there that we will get to share in cause, dang, I need more. I was so ready for her to start laying it down again! Maybe she can find her sweet bird Ava now...

gngr~snap
07-23-2011, 05:05 PM
There was always talk that the large newspapers/media had written the obit for Amy quite awhile ago. The publication of this obit kinds makes me think that talk was spot on.

So sad to see how many saw this coming, but Amy did not. I hope she finds some peace now.

Mel
:eek:A fill in the blank obit... :cry:nakes total sense. I feel a little ill,
so sad!
Rehab lyrics

The man said 'why do you think you here'
I said 'I got no idea
I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby
so I always keep a bottle near'

PaperDoll
07-23-2011, 05:06 PM
I'm saddened by this ;( she was so young and talented ;( I felt sorry for her, actually.

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 05:21 PM
There was always talk that the large newspapers/media had written the obit for Amy quite awhile ago. The publication of this obit kinds makes me think that talk was spot on.


Yes, the Telegraph had its up very early, time-stamped 6:54 p.m. BST. Her body was found, according to
the Mail, at 3:54 p.m. BST, and of course it would take some time for the sad information to be verified.

Both the Guardian's (above) and the Telegraph's (link here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/tv-radio-obituaries/8657048/Amy-Winehouse.html)) are lengthy, detailed obituaries.

From the Telegraph obit:
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In late 2007 Amy Winehouse's father Mitch was reported to have taken the precaution of writing her obituary, fearful that the end could not be far away.
---

LadyL
07-23-2011, 05:24 PM
newspapers have obits pre-written for all public figures & update them continually

RIP Amy

whiteangora
07-23-2011, 05:30 PM
Amy, Amy, Amy...

Man...this was a harsh one when my mom broke it to me this morning in the park. I had avoided Amy, turned off by what I had seen of her tabloid habits. Then I heard her...and I was floored and talk about addicted. Ask my DH and kids...one of her songs is usually eiter playing or badly emanating from my lips, and def stuck in my head. Things seemed like they were starting to turn for her. I was hoping anyhow. I was glad to hear she had taken the initiative to get into rehab before her comeback show, but saddened to see she came out completely inebriated. It takes steps though, and not all of them are forward. Unfortunately this step was the last and that is sad.

What ever happened, how ever she reached her final rest, I hope she can find the peace that her troubled soul seemed to desperately struggle to reach for while she graced this plane.
I hope there are a few tracks out there that we will get to share in cause, dang, I need more. I was so ready for her to start laying it down again! Maybe she can find her sweet bird Ava now...

I can relate to your post, the first time I heard Amy sing was on the Grammys 2008, I was hooked! Her unique retro style and that fabulous voice was so refreshing during a time of RAP overload. She truly had a gift and I hope she knew how much she was loved. I will miss her.
Thank you Amy for all of the great music :goldstar:

Kateyes
07-23-2011, 05:32 PM
Melanie- when I heard she had died I remembered immediately that she had to leave the stage at a concert 3 weeks ago or so. At that time it had been reported that she had checked herself into rehab, and then I heard nothing more about her. My husband and I were talking about that just last evening. So tragic- seems that everyone but Amy could see the end she to which she would soon come. RIP, Amy Winehouse.

LadyL
07-23-2011, 05:38 PM
there was a recent tabloid pic of her from about 10 days ago ... she looked great

Elphaba
07-23-2011, 06:31 PM
Amy, Amy, Amy... :(


I think I'll dust off my bad girl pumps, amp up the speakers and sing along to F Me Pumps, in hopes that she is at peace and no longer suffering the fight she had with her demons. That is one of my favorite songs of hers... if anyone wants to see her healthy and happy, that is the video to watch. It's an old video and some media jack$$es considered her "plump" then... :(. Poor girl couldn't win, at times...

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 06:32 PM
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Shortly after the confirmation of her death, Winehouse was mentioned [on Twitter] in nearly 10 per cent of all tweets worldwide. As there are 200million users this equates to 20million people communicating with one another about her death.
---
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-dead--Found-dead-London-flat.html

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 06:42 PM
Amy Winehouse: 'There was a fresh, candid openness about her' – Guardian video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/video/2011/jul/23/amy-winehouse-tribute-video?intcmp=239)

waltzingmatilda
07-23-2011, 06:43 PM
Amy, Amy, Amy... :(


I think I'll dust off my bad girl pumps, amp up the speakers and sing along to F Me Pumps, in hopes that she is at peace and no longer suffering the fight she had with her demons. That is one of my favorite songs of hers... if anyone wants to see her healthy and happy, that is the video to watch. It's an old video and some media jack$$es considered her "plump" then... :(. Poor girl couldn't win, at times...

Elphaba, I'm with you!

wm :)

gitana1
07-23-2011, 06:43 PM
I want to thank all my wonderful, beautiful, fellow websleuthers. I saw this story on CNN this morning. The majority of posters on there were so horribly cruel about it - "Oh, who cares, one more nasty addict dead." That kind of thing.

I realize this gal' wrote a dismissive song about rehab and killed her self with drugs, but she also went to rehab repeatedly and clearly was suffering. The lack of even an ounce of pity for a fellow human being in those posts made me start to feel very depressed about our society. So, I decided to come here and see what you all had to say.

Thanks for making me feel better about humanity, guys. Love ya'!

Flossie JMO
07-23-2011, 06:54 PM
omg so very sad, she was so talented. :( a picture of her within the last week had folks saying she looked healthier

Nova
07-23-2011, 06:56 PM
I'm saddened by this ;( she was so young and talented ;( I felt sorry for her, actually.

I did, too. Nobody is that self-destructive unless they are wrestling with some serious demons. (I'm using the latter term metaphorically. I don't believe in "evil spirits.")

Gozgals
07-23-2011, 06:59 PM
Very sad, one so talented to lose their lives so young.
This was expected yet so very sad.

My prayers go out to her family, friends.

Goz

Steely Dan
07-23-2011, 07:01 PM
I want to thank all my wonderful, beautiful, fellow websleuthers. I saw this story on CNN this morning. The majority of posters on there were so horribly cruel about it - "Oh, who cares, one more nasty addict dead." That kind of thing.

I realize this gal' wrote a dismissive song about rehab and killed her self with drugs, but she also went to rehab repeatedly and clearly was suffering. The lack of even an ounce of pity for a fellow human being in those posts made me start to feel very depressed about our society. So, I decided to come here and see what you all had to say.

Thanks for making me feel better about humanity, guys. Love ya'!

OT but Jimmy McCulloch, formerly of Wings, co-wrote a song called "Medicine Jar" that appears on a Wings album, forget which one. It's an anti-drug song. He didn't write the lyrics but I believe he sings them on the Wings album. He died of a heroin overdose.

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 07:05 PM
Amy Winehouse Dies, Before Our Eyes (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/23/amy-winehouse-dead_n_907832.html) (Huffington Post)
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Her death is probably one of the least surprising tragedies in recent memory, given that we've been witnessing her slow-motion decline for, well, ever since we've known her.

But then again, it's one of the most surprising, because we've been witnessing her slow-motion decline ever since we've known her. It's the only way we've ever known her, so none of her self-destructive antics leading up to this were really all that surprising when they occurred.
---
much more at link above

wonders
07-23-2011, 07:12 PM
What a sad shame. I'm 55 and loved her music. Such a young woman who could have had the world. However, when I first heard of her and her troubles I thought this would have happened awhile ago. I really hope she is at peace.

White Rain
07-23-2011, 08:05 PM
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Alot of the names I didn't recognize...one surprising one to me though was that of Mia Zapata. I have seen her case on City Confidential and a couple of other true-crime shows.

Leilei
07-23-2011, 08:09 PM
I hate that this has happened to such a talented, promising, young lady. I am a recovering addict (8 years clean), and know that it so hard to just say no, and to mean it. Nobody can make you do it, it's a personal decision to get out of that lifestyle, and it is hard as hades to do and can take multiple attempts before it "sticks", if it ever does "stick". My thoughts are with her parents, who tried so hard to help her get clean, and I am hoping that she finally has peace. I guess there is a chance that this wasn't an overdose, but really, with all of the damage she has done to herself, drugs will be involved in some way. IMO. Thank you, Amy, for the flashes of brilliance we heard from you. I wish that you could have been happier with yourself :(

White Rain
07-23-2011, 09:28 PM
Amy before and after drugs...if these pics don't break your heart then you don't have one:
MOO
&#x202a;AMY WINEHOUSE BEFORE AND AFTER DRUGS&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube


another: &#x202a;Amy Winehouse - before and after&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

1tasha
07-23-2011, 09:36 PM
Can I just say that I hate the requisite twitter celebrity reactions to someone's death? Vapid and barely literate. Find Kelly Clarkson's. Ick.

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 09:42 PM
tabloid angle shaping up:
Tragic Amy Winehouse 'heartbroken' over split from Reg Traviss as she dies aged 27 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018126/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-heartbroken-split-Reg-Traviss.html) (Sunday Mail)
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Last night, as Winehouse's body was taken to a local mortuary, her heartbroken mother Janis admitted she believed her daughter's death had been 'only a matter of time' when they met just 24 hours before she died.

'She seemed out of it. But her passing so suddenly still hasn't hit me,' she said.

Instead, she said, she preferred clinging for comfort to Amy's own parting words at the end of an enjoyable day they had spent together on Friday.

As mother and daughter kissed on the doorstep Amy told her, 'I love you, Mum'.

'They are the words I will always treasure and always remember Amy by', she said.
---
much more at link above

Melanie
07-23-2011, 10:07 PM
newspapers have obits pre-written for all public figures & update them continually

RIP Amy

I sure wouldn't want that job -- how sad.

RIP Amy -- your music will live on.

Kat
07-23-2011, 10:11 PM
My deepest sympathy to those who loved Amy. Especially her family.

Whatever pain that created her addictions is what killed her IMHO. The drugs were just a way she punished herself and tortured herself. That is my thinking on addiction. Even though the addiction to drugs is physical and mental there is an fundamental pain that drug addicts are dealing with---and Amy must have been in excruciating pain.

Rest in peace sweet one. My fav by her is a remix called Veronica it's upbeat and happy.

charok
07-23-2011, 10:14 PM
tabloid angle shaping up:
Tragic Amy Winehouse 'heartbroken' over split from Reg Traviss as she dies aged 27 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018126/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-heartbroken-split-Reg-Traviss.html) (Sunday Mail)

much more at link above

im so sorry on top of her struggles, the heartbreak of a split on top of that..recent pics of her looked like she may be coming around, gained healthy weight..i was so hoping she could make a comeback...if britney spears could have a "comeback" after such shocking behavior, then amy surely did deserve one too..and no offense, amy had more talent in her pinky than brit has in whole body. her mom clinging to a happy last memory "i love you mum" my heart breaks for not only her, but her folks and her fans

songline
07-23-2011, 10:24 PM
I'm saddened by this ;( she was so young and talented ;( I felt sorry for her, actually.

I do agree so young and so talented. I was not shocked and yet I was shocked that poor child was a tortured soul,
all her songs are really sad. I felt sorry for her too, and in this song I thing she wrote her story,. :(
&#x202a;Amy Winehouse - Love Is A Losing Game - Official Music Video&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

songline
07-23-2011, 10:30 PM
im so sorry on top of her struggles, the heartbreak of a split on top of that..recent pics of her looked like she may be coming around, gained healthy weight..i was so hoping she could make a comeback...if britney spears could have a "comeback" after such shocking behavior, then amy surely did deserve one too..and no offense, amy had more talent in her pinky than brit has in whole body. her mom clinging to a happy last memory "i love you mum" my heart breaks for not only her, but her folks and her fans
Britney was not a tortured soul like Amy IMHO.
this is so sad :( she was a great talent and so young. :(
RIP AMY :(
Her song is her bio :(
&#x202a;Amy Winehouse - Love Is A Losing Game - Official Music Video&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

wfgodot
07-23-2011, 10:32 PM
excellent Independent article:
Razor sharp, Winehouse changed the music scene for ever (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/razor-sharp-winehouse-changed-the-music-scene-for-ever-2319530.html)
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In the end, long after people have stopped telling stories of drink and excess, they will talk about Amy Winehouse's voice and her music.
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much more at link above

feddup
07-23-2011, 10:53 PM
i was so shocked to hear this:( I never really followed her songs but there was something about her that I liked when I saw her. I liked the song Rehab but just thought it was a funny song she wrote. Guess we should've taken it seriously:anguish:
I really feelsorry for her parents and those she was close to and loved her:(
That song was beautiful.
R I P Ms Winehouse

White Rain
07-23-2011, 11:04 PM
was listening to one of my fave songs on youtube and decided to look up the lyrics...ironically I found it fitting of poor Amy...
If you have never heard this song it is a MUST:

Big Empty by Stone Temple Pilots:

drivin' faster in my car
falling farther from just what we are
smoke a cigarette and lie some more
these conversations kill
falling faster in my car

time to take her home
her dizzy head is conscience laden
time to take a ride
it leaves today no conversation
time to take her home
her dizzy head is conscience laden
time to wait too long
to wait too long
these conversations kill

to much walkin', shoes worn thin
too much trippin' and my soul's worn thin
time to catch a ride
it leaves today, her name is what it means
to much walkin', shoe's worn thin

1tasha
07-23-2011, 11:34 PM
You really can't compare her with talentless pop divas and the current parade of autotuned, fashion challenged zombies. You just can't.

Silkprint
07-23-2011, 11:41 PM
In recent pictures she looked pretty and alot better
Not as skinny and she had some color . Nails done and such
Not like in the bad old Blake days - he was no good for her at all .
I hoped after the divorced that she would work out her drugs problems .
I do feel bad ..27 is too young to die of anything .

1tasha
07-23-2011, 11:51 PM
newspapers have obits pre-written for all public figures & update them continually

RIP Amy

From working at 5 papers I know we have obits pre-written for elderly public figures and those who have a tenuous grip on life. The rest we create on the fly.

Kat
07-24-2011, 12:22 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KEEKq10xXJc/TisQFBK8BRI/AAAAAAAALxs/OGydUUCjndY/s1600/amy+winehouse+3.jpg

Beautiful girl.

Kaybug
07-24-2011, 12:36 AM
Amy Winehouse is dead. Sadly, everyone saw it coming and could do nothing to stop it.

Twenty-Seven Members of the "27" Club
Of course, the "24 Club" is pretty well-stocked
And the "26 Club" has some real quality, too
John Keats leads the "25 Club." But 27 remains the "gold standard" for tragic death

"27" is a magical age in rock. It is approximately around the time that songwriters need to learn to do consciously what they used to unconsciously, as Bob Dylan once explained regarding the change in his writing process. It is also an age that many artists never make it past.

List of the 27 Club
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/listoftheday/141497/twenty-seven-members-of-the-27-club

DevilsPlayThing
07-24-2011, 12:43 AM
Amy Winehouse When Asked In An Interview Where Will She Be In 10 Years Responded : Dead in a ditch, on fire.

Q: When your first album came out, someone asked where you'd be 10 years from now, and you said...

A: "Dead. Dead in a ditch, on fire."

Q: No, no. At that time, you said you imagined yourself in 10 years being a happy housewife with three kids. But some time has gone by since then, so you'd have to do some work to catch up with that now.

A: Is that a proposition?

Now, that was a funny line.

Always Loved Your Passion Amy. Rest With The Angels. You Are Most Deserving Love. ~

zadari
07-24-2011, 04:04 AM
Add one more to the 27 club.

Other musicians who died at 27 years old:

Jimi Hendrix
Jim Morrison
Janis Joplin
Kurt Cobain
Brian Jones (Rolling Stones)
Ron "Pigpen" McKernan (Grateful Dead)
Pete Ham (Badfinger)
Alan "Blind Owl" Wilson (Canned Heat)

Edit To Add:



You beat me to it Kristins.
and jim morrisons "wife pamela courson morrison"

OneLostGrl
07-24-2011, 04:04 AM
So sad. Breaks my heart. RIP Amy

kline
07-24-2011, 06:15 AM
You really can't compare her with talentless pop divas and the current parade of autotuned, fashion challenged zombies. You just can't.Well said.
Rest in Peace Amy.Your Voice will be missed.

athy
07-24-2011, 08:26 AM
it took me a little while to think of the name of who Amy reminds me of. since the first time i saw her and heard her sing. as i've said before, i never really heard much of her singing but i remember the first time i did she always reminded me of Billie Holliday. they both seem to have a voice that is unique, both were talented and both lived a life of drug and alcohol abuse and turmoil. their souls seemed so pained and i think that's what made their singing so unique.

wfgodot
07-24-2011, 12:23 PM
Sordid tabloid coverage picking right up:

Sordid final hours of a troubled star:
Amy Winehouse had 'bought ecstasy, cocaine and ketamine' on the night before tragic death (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018126/Amy-Winehouse-bought-ecstasy-cocaine-ketamine-tragic-death.html)
The sordid details of Amy Winehouse's final hours emerged today, with claims that she bought a cocktail of narcotics including cocaine, ecstasy and ketamine.

Although the exact cause of death has not yet been released by police, it is claimed she was seen buying drugs from a dealer in Camden just after 10:30pm on Friday.
---

more at Sunday Mail link above

Sunday Mirror: Amy Winehouse dead after 'drink and drugs binge' (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/07/24/amy-winehouse-dead-after-drink-and-drugs-binge-115875-23292300/)
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Last night a neighbour told how he heard noises from Amy’s home on Saturday afternoon.

“At about 3.30am I heard crying from next door... terrible crying like somebody mourning.The ambulances and police cars arrived shortly after that.”

Police described Amy’s death as “unexplained”. But friends who have seen her over the last few weeks say she had hit the self-destruct button over the last two days in wild drinking sessions around Camden, North London.

A friend said: “She has spent the last seven days on a massive bender and people were saying she’s going to drink herself to death.”

Friends who were with her believe she died from a “bad” ecstasy pill combined with huge amounts of alcohol
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more at link above

DollyPardonMe
07-24-2011, 01:28 PM
This is so very sad..Kelly Osborne twittered she had lost her very best friend and no one will know the real Amy..Wish we could have...RIP Amy...

reportertype
07-24-2011, 03:13 PM
Re: Newspaper obits. Most of the big papers will have obits not only for older celebs but also any younger ones who may be in trouble. The LA Times, for instance, most likely has pre-written obits for Lindsay Lohan and Britney because of past troubles. They'll update them as necessary. I'm certain the UK papers had pre-written obits for Amy.

arielilane
07-24-2011, 03:34 PM
Rest in Peace (angel with the extraordinary voice) Amy Winehouse.

A sad time indeed. I was hoping for a miracle.

The "Rehab" singer got on stage with her goddaughter in London.

Amy Winehouse’s Final Appearance on Stage Just Days Before her Death (Video)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/amy-winehouse-s-final-appearance-214681

tlcya
07-24-2011, 03:40 PM
She has now joined the infamous "27 club" all those famous talented souls who never made it to 28.

21merc7
07-24-2011, 04:45 PM
I did not know anything about this young lady until I saw a piece on t.v. today. It is very sad that she may have felt she was worthless. You could see it coming from the clips that were shown, the rapid decline. I know the feeling well, there are times when no one can help and you just cannot hear the love in a friend's voice or see it in their eyes. You truly feel you are bringing everyone down with you.

If you ever have a friend that suddenly changes patterns, get noisy, be up there behind, don't put them down, but force them to go for coffee or juice, or bring it to them, make them sleep over (or you force yourself on them for a sleepover) but pretend it is for fun, be ready to call 911.

Nefriahaia
07-24-2011, 04:49 PM
I hate drugs.

21merc7
07-24-2011, 04:55 PM
Nef;

I don't know if it was just the drugs. I think that just facilitated it. Sometimes people do feel worthless, the drugs are a first stop to try to forget that. They become an end stop, but if end stop was the intention, there is always the car, the gas stove, the gun, the knife. Drugs just make it cleaner for everyone left behind. :(

wfgodot
07-24-2011, 05:10 PM
It's been suggested that, without her demons, Amy would not have produced the sheer genius that is Back to Black. Troubled romances, disordered lives, and the drink- & drug-taking they encourage sometimes are keys to the quality of the art - for some, one's darker muses are easier to summon, and deceptively available, seemingly on-call.

But for awhile, only for a very little while.

tlcya
07-24-2011, 05:19 PM
well said wfgodot

capps
07-24-2011, 08:37 PM
It's been suggested that, without her demons, Amy would not have produced the sheer genius that is Back to Black. Troubled romances, disordered lives, and the drink- & drug-taking they encourage sometimes are keys to the quality of the art - for some, one's darker muses are easier to summon, and deceptively available, seemingly on-call.

But for awhile, only for a very little while.
Oh wow wfgodot,the thanks button was not good enough!

I believe that you are so correct,and I heard it before with other celebrities. Get high! Do drugs! They bring out your inner soul and you can create great music!!

Of course there are the strong ones that can do it for a while,and then pull back and get back to reality. And then there are the others,that just take it too far.

Very observant wfgodot!

Kat
07-24-2011, 11:33 PM
It's been suggested that, without her demons, Amy would not have produced the sheer genius that is Back to Black. Troubled romances, disordered lives, and the drink- & drug-taking they encourage sometimes are keys to the quality of the art - for some, one's darker muses are easier to summon, and deceptively available, seemingly on-call.

But for awhile, only for a very little while.

You reminded me of a theory that mental illness (depression) and creative genius are two sides of the same coin.

In fact I've seen it described that the difference is only wafer thin.

DollyPardonMe
07-25-2011, 12:47 AM
You reminded me of a theory that mental illness (depression) and creative genius are two sides of the same coin.

In fact I've seen it described that the difference is only wafer thin.

Kat, You are so right! The drugs they give you for mental illness can produce the same effect. Low self-esteem, a feeling of numbness and emptiness, they even warn you that the drugs for mental illness will cause a side effect of suicide. So, in reality..you are caught in a hard place with yourself and your demons!

Silkprint
07-25-2011, 12:50 AM
I feel so bad for her family
She really had such a problem with drugs and alcohol and they really tried to help her .
I hate the fact that she died alone like that ..I just read she was alone in her bed and no drugs things were found so they feel it was alcohol..that chick had only a gas petal and no stop
but that girl could SING!!!
I have always got goosebumps listening to her ..she hit you right THERE with that voice and feeling .
I could honestly care less about the Rehab song ..I liked her heart wrenching ones .
I will miss you Amy !! I followed your music and follwed your personal slide and always rooted for you !
Such a tiny little bird and I know she had lung problems too .
I also love the way she is being treated in this thread
YOU GUYS ROCK!

LadyL
07-25-2011, 01:00 AM
From working at 5 papers I know we have obits pre-written for elderly public figures and those who have a tenuous grip on life. The rest we create on the fly.

different countries perhaps ...

any large news org. I know of here has them all pre-written

JB Fletcher
07-25-2011, 04:01 AM
She was very talented and very troubled. May she now find peace.

waltzingmatilda
07-25-2011, 08:21 AM
Russell Brand pens touching tribute to Amy Winehouse
Actor urges those who know addicts to help them before it's too late

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43872754/ns/today-entertainment/

wm

ohiogirl
07-25-2011, 09:23 AM
RIP, Amy. I truly hope you are peaceful now.

SuziQ
07-25-2011, 10:02 AM
Below is an article about Amy and Reg Traviss. What a good looking man and couple. Notice how beautiful and happy Amy looks. Also a picture of Reg at the shrine. I feel bad for him.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/amy-winehouse-died-heartbroken-over-failed-romance-with-filmmaker-reg-traviss/story-e6frfn09-1226100785320

whiteangora
07-25-2011, 12:01 PM
Russell Brand pens touching tribute to Amy Winehouse
Actor urges those who know addicts to help them before it's too late

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43872754/ns/today-entertainment/

wm

That was an amazing tribute. Thank you Mr Brand, you're the rare
sucess story of addiction.

Mom who cares
07-25-2011, 12:29 PM
and jim morrisons "wife pamela courson morrison"

And Gram Parsons, I'd rather like to think of him as a paradox to Amy.

May you rest in peace.

tk71texas
07-25-2011, 01:27 PM
such great talent lost too early.....there's another one that i also have worried about in the past.....she dropped out of the limelight a few years ago but she's coming back with her own label......she is joss stone <<<<< an amazing artist

Hopeful One
07-25-2011, 01:42 PM
This is heartbreaking to me and another example of the fact that addiction is a fatal disease.

My heart goes out to her family.

Seek&Find
07-25-2011, 03:39 PM
I was shocked to see she died. I didn't know who she was for awhile but kept seeing stories of her struggles. Looked her up, listened to her, and fell in love with her music and voice. Seemed to me her vulnerability and pain jumped out of most of her photos. I prayed for her several times and hoped for the best for her. I wish she'd won this war. I try to be empathic and compassionate, but her passing will make me more keenly aware of the pain of addicts, and to offer healthy support any way I can. I wanted to give this to you, Amy, for a long time: :hug:

I hope her loss will save others.

Kat
07-25-2011, 05:28 PM
Russell Brand pens touching tribute to Amy Winehouse
Actor urges those who know addicts to help them before it's too late

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43872754/ns/today-entertainment/

wm

They have about them the air of elsewhere, that they're looking through you to somewhere else they'd rather be. And of course they are. The priority of any addict is to anesthetize the pain of living to ease the passage of the day with some purchased relief."

This is a beautiful tribute. I snipped an especially poignent statement by him.

It may seem off topic but not really, although my own family member who died at the age of 54 by drinking herself to death wasn't a creative genius, this statement I think highlights what we as non addicts who are down in the trenches with addicts and their self destructive behaviors can lose sight of----that they are in overwhelming, staggering pain. The type of pain that makes it seem as if their very soul has a third degree burn. JMHO

panthera
07-25-2011, 09:09 PM
Dr. Drew discussing Amy's death now on HLN......

OneLostGrl
07-25-2011, 09:14 PM
Russell Brand pens touching tribute to Amy Winehouse
Actor urges those who know addicts to help them before it's too late

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43872754/ns/today-entertainment/

wm

My favorite part..

..."Not all addicts have Amy's incredible talent. Or Kurt [Cobain]'s or Jimi [Hendrix]'s or Janis [Joplin]'s. Some people just get the affliction. All we can do is adapt the way we view this condition, not as a crime or a romantic affectation but as a disease that will kill. We need to review the way society treats addicts, not as criminals but as sick people in need of care. We need to look at the way our government funds rehabilitation. It is cheaper to rehabilitate an addict than to send them to prison, so criminalization doesn't even make economic sense. Not all of us know someone with the incredible talent that Amy had but we all know drunks and junkies and they all need help and the help is out there. All they have to do is pick up the phone and make the call. Or not. Either way, there will be a phone call."

OneLostGrl
07-25-2011, 09:18 PM
This is heartbreaking to me and another example of the fact that addiction is a fatal disease.

My heart goes out to her family.

:hug:

Fairy1
07-25-2011, 10:54 PM
Sending prayers to Amy's family and friends. What a terrible loss for all of us. Never to hear that soulful voice again. Makes me want to cry. :(

Filly
07-25-2011, 11:15 PM
Sordid tabloid coverage picking right up:

Sordid final hours of a troubled star: (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018126/Amy-Winehouse-bought-ecstasy-cocaine-ketamine-tragic-death.html)
Amy Winehouse had 'bought ecstasy, cocaine and ketamine' on the night before tragic death (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018126/Amy-Winehouse-bought-ecstasy-cocaine-ketamine-tragic-death.html)


more at Sunday Mail link above

Sunday Mirror: Amy Winehouse dead after 'drink and drugs binge' (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/07/24/amy-winehouse-dead-after-drink-and-drugs-binge-115875-23292300/)

more at link above

Bad E and abundance of alcohol? No matter as if this can help just one person than so be it, but my instinct is going with heroin.

RIP Miss Winehouse. Thank you for your cover of "Valerie". I'm so sorry for the pain you suffered.

As always positive vibes and prayers sent to the still suffering addict out there tonight.

OneLostGrl
07-26-2011, 01:37 AM
Bad E and abundance of alcohol? No matter as if this can help just one person than so be it, but my instinct is going with heroin.

RIP Miss Winehouse. Thank you for your cover of "Valerie". I'm so sorry for the pain you suffered.

As always positive vibes and prayers sent to the still suffering addict out there tonight.

ita re heroin

Gozgals
07-26-2011, 02:43 AM
Hi All,

Let this be a wake up call to all those stars, rockers, and our friends who are addicted. Please please get some help. We can't keep losing our young talented people. We need to stop our addictions and help one another.

Reach out to each other.
THanks
Goz

RIP Amy

DEPUTYDAWG
07-26-2011, 08:25 AM
Can't remember the TV source I heard yesterday (sorry) mention that there were no drugs found in her apartment. I found that suspicious. IMO, she did die from OD or drug-related, and I would have thought they would have found something. Did someone clean it up before LE/EMS arrived?

What a shame, RIP Amy....

whiteangora
07-26-2011, 10:47 AM
Can't remember the TV source I heard yesterday (sorry) mention that there were no drugs found in her apartment. I found that suspicious. IMO, she did die from OD or drug-related, and I would have thought they would have found something. Did someone clean it up before LE/EMS arrived?

What a shame, RIP Amy....

I read that too and it sounded strange especially since the story was being circulated about her purchase of assorted drugs just prior to her death.
It's hard to separate fact from rumor, usually we never really know the truth. I also read that she had some sort of guard staying with her.

waltzingmatilda
07-26-2011, 11:02 AM
Winehouse's phone was hacked, reporter claims
Ex Sunday Mail writer says papers accessed her phone to find out when she'd be at rehab


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43888235/ns/today-entertainment/

There are links inside this link wrt the autopsy results didn't establish cause of death and also about no sign of drugs in her residence. I heard on Today that toxicology reports may take weeks.

I was so touched by Russell Brand's tribute to Amy. It is ironic that dbf and I watched Get Him to the Greek just the day before Amy died. RB's character is an addicted rock star who disrupts the lives of everyone around him. The movie had a happy ending and dbf and I discussed how it would be nice if happy endings occur for real life addicts. Well, I guess RL does have happy endings and Mr Brand is proof of this! I had no idea he was a heroin addict. Kudos to him for bringing insight to the subject of addiction being a disease! I have enjoyed all of your knowlegable comments on this subject.

Brand's characters' last song in the movie began with ... 'when life hands you a jeffery, just stroke the furry wall.' I wish Amy had a furry wall to stroke when life handed her a jeffery :(

For those of you who haven't seen the above mentioned movie, it is a comedy and Brand's comic genius shines. (For you movie buffs, it is the same premise of an older comedy called 'My Favorite Year' with Peter O'Toole and Mark Linn Baker.)

I'll always remember Amy and listen to her music. I hope she is at peace now...

Sincerely,

wm

arielilane
07-26-2011, 12:35 PM
'Goodnight my angel, sleep tight': Mitch Winehouse's emotional goodbye to daughter Amy as Kelly Osbourne and Mark Ronson join family for her funeral

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018929/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Father-Mitch-says-emotional-goodbye-funeral.html#ixzz1TEK4eCwQ

OneLostGrl
07-26-2011, 02:41 PM
Hi All,

Let this be a wake up call to all those stars, rockers, and our friends who are addicted. Please please get some help. We can't keep losing our young talented people. We need to stop our addictions and help one another.

Reach out to each other.
THanks
Goz

RIP Amy

If only it were that easy.. nobody would die from it.

panthera
07-26-2011, 09:10 PM
'Goodnight my angel, sleep tight': Mitch Winehouse's emotional goodbye to daughter Amy as Kelly Osbourne and Mark Ronson join family for her funeral

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018929/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Father-Mitch-says-emotional-goodbye-funeral.html#ixzz1TEK4eCwQ

Good night, Amy - Rest in Peace :rose:

davehead21
07-26-2011, 09:35 PM
'Goodnight my angel, sleep tight': Mitch Winehouse's emotional goodbye to daughter Amy as Kelly Osbourne and Mark Ronson join family for her funeral

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018929/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Father-Mitch-says-emotional-goodbye-funeral.html#ixzz1TEK4eCwQ

Her poor family. I cannot even imagine watching my loved one go down the path that Amy did and not being able to help them, they must have felt so helpless. I am sure, even though it seems as if they did all the could to help her, they will live their entire lives wondering if the outcome would have been different had they done something differently. So, so sad.

It was reported early after she died that she and Reg Traviss had broken up but I noticed in this article, he was refered to as her boyfriend. I wonder what the deal is there.

cluciano63
07-26-2011, 10:20 PM
My younger sister died a few years ago, after battling for years with anorexia and alcohol abuse...she tried rehab many times, but it just didn't work out for her, although she always had the best intentions and wrote such heartbreakingly optimistic letters about how well she was doing and how she was looking forward to her life...I imagine Amy's family endured much the same, as did Amy. Everything came rushing back to me this weekend hearing about Amy's death. My mom never really recovered and died just as heartbroken as the day it happened. I hope Amy's family can find a way.

OneLostGrl
07-27-2011, 02:07 AM
My younger sister died a few years ago, after battling for years with anorexia and alcohol abuse...she tried rehab many times, but it just didn't work out for her, although she always had the best intentions and wrote such heartbreakingly optimistic letters about how well she was doing and how she was looking forward to her life...I imagine Amy's family endured much the same, as did Amy. Everything came rushing back to me this weekend hearing about Amy's death. My mom never really recovered and died just as heartbroken as the day it happened. I hope Amy's family can find a way.

:hug: I'm so sorry for your loss.

deelytful1
07-27-2011, 02:15 AM
RIP Amy May your tortured soul be at peace.
&#x202a;Amy Winehouse - Rehab&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

cluciano63
07-27-2011, 07:27 AM
:hug: I'm so sorry for your loss.

Thank you.
I just watched the "Biography Remembers" special on Bio Channel, what a sad story...her fame came so quickly but I think she would have been alright if she had not met that one wrong person...

IWannaKnow
07-27-2011, 10:15 AM
I think this is a fantastic article. Thank you to all of you here who love and respect Amy, demons and all.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-karel-bouley/amy-winhouse-an-artist-no_b_907780.html

Amy Winehouse: An Artist, Not a Cliché
Charles Karel Bouley
KGO Radio and Syndicated Host, Stand Up, Entertainer, Author, Actor, Dog Walker
Posted: 7/25/11 03:46 PM ET

What people should be asking is, why artists? Since the dawn of time artists have left early, been addicted, been "not right." If Prozac existed a hundred or more years ago, would we have Van Gogh's work? If Joplin or Hendrix had Dr. Drew and didn't have their demons, would they have had their brilliance?

The general public looks at the powerful and privileged and say, "What a waste, if I had all that fame and money I wouldn't..." Trust me, you never, ever know.

Look at Whitney Houston. She seemingly had it all. Untouchable vocals, an acting career taking off, hit records only to let a substance in that devastated her life, and her voice. Now, she is the shell of the superstar she used to be; and it's tragic. But why? Because something in her, something private, something personal, hurt, and the drugs made it go away.

Everyone suffers. Everyone medicates that suffering with SOMETHING. Some take drugs, some drink, some collect little dogs or horde trash. Others eat themselves to death while the next person is starving themselves. Just because the addiction is legal (chocolate, shopping, lattes, diet Pepsi, ciggies etc) doesn't mean that the person is not addicted and using it the same way. Just that society doesn't look down on them for that addiction and it will probably take longer to kill them. None of us are perfect. None. Some simply hide it better than others.....

RIP Amy. I will greatly miss your talent. :rose:

SuziQ
07-27-2011, 12:57 PM
IWannaKnow, The article you posted reminded me of one in the LA Times several years back. It was about how psychiatric drugs were killing creative talent and featured a few cases in Hollywood. Basically the trade off was losing their careers to be more mentally sound. Some were ok with that, many were not and went off the drugs. Many were able to regain their creative side, others never got it back.

Hopeful One
07-27-2011, 02:10 PM
My younger sister died a few years ago, after battling for years with anorexia and alcohol abuse...she tried rehab many times, but it just didn't work out for her, although she always had the best intentions and wrote such heartbreakingly optimistic letters about how well she was doing and how she was looking forward to her life...I imagine Amy's family endured much the same, as did Amy. Everything came rushing back to me this weekend hearing about Amy's death. My mom never really recovered and died just as heartbroken as the day it happened. I hope Amy's family can find a way.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your sister and for all of the pain you had to endure. My sister got clean and sober over three years ago and things finally seem to be going in her direction. The news of Amy's death brought back all of those horrible feelings of when she was using. It was hell for all of us and she just as easily could have ended up where Amy is. I thank God every day that she didn't. And I pray to God every day that he helps her stay sober.

In my perfect world, all addicts become well. Most of them have such tremendously creative souls, the world would really benefit from their clean and sober minds.

Hopeful One
07-27-2011, 02:12 PM
Everyone suffers. Everyone medicates that suffering with SOMETHING. Some take drugs, some drink, some collect little dogs or horde trash. Others eat themselves to death while the next person is starving themselves. Just because the addiction is legal (chocolate, shopping, lattes, diet Pepsi, ciggies etc) doesn't mean that the person is not addicted and using it the same way. Just that society doesn't look down on them for that addiction and it will probably take longer to kill them. None of us are perfect. None. Some simply hide it better than others.....

RIP Amy. I will greatly miss your talent. :rose:

Snipped for space.

What a great post. Thanks wasn't enough, imo. I've said many times that we all have vices. No one of us is better than the other.

cluciano63
07-27-2011, 02:26 PM
I'm so sorry for the loss of your sister and for all of the pain you had to endure. My sister got clean and sober over three years ago and things finally seem to be going in her direction. The news of Amy's death brought back all of those horrible feelings of when she was using. It was hell for all of us and she just as easily could have ended up where Amy is. I thank God every day that she didn't. And I pray to God every day that he helps her stay sober.

In my perfect world, all addicts become well. Most of them have such tremendously creative souls, the world would really benefit from their clean and sober minds.

I am glad your sister seems to have made it...I know my sister really tried and she had tons of support but that is not always enough.

My mom, even though she was close to 80 when Amy became known in the US, took to her right away, as she heard about her problems. She also read Kurt Cobain's bio and others who died from addiction-based issues...she tried so hard to help others understand that it really is an illness, bless her heart.

Gozgals
07-27-2011, 06:07 PM
If only it were that easy.. nobody would die from it.

i didn't say it was easy. I know many addicted. I said to reach out.

Goz

Silkprint
07-27-2011, 10:20 PM
As always positive vibes and prayers sent to the still suffering addict out there tonight.

Amen Filly

kas227
07-27-2011, 10:35 PM
To have that many demons at that young of an age is so very sad. She was a very tortured soul. May she finally be at peace.

Elphaba
07-28-2011, 01:41 AM
Saw a staged pic of her bodyguards posing with her cremated remains outside of the crematorium. What an odd image... especially the guy on one end pointing at the box to bring attention to her name on it... and the other guy on the other end looking like he is cracking a polite smile as if it is a family photo op or something of that nature. I ponder how much was made off of the image, because no way did it get put into circulation on the tabloid market for free. (the guy holding her ashes is supposedly the one that found her)

TMZ carried it:
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/26/amy-winehouse-bodyguards-pose-ashes-crematorium/

waltzingmatilda
07-28-2011, 10:01 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019645/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Family-believe-died-quit-alcohol.html

I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinion on this.

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Mitch and Janis' appearance at the house comes as it has been claimed the singer's death on Saturday was because she stopped drinking.
It is thought that Amy had been told to cut down on her drinking gradually, but her cold turkey approach to quitting the booze gave her frail body a shock it couldn’t handle.
A source close to the family told the paper: ‘Abstinence gave her body such a fright they thought it was eventually the cause of her death.

Amy’s father Mitch gave a touching eulogy where he said that Amy had beaten her battle with drink and drugs and she hadn’t drunk for three weeks and hadn’t touched drugs for years.
However it has been claimed that the singer was drinking gin and red bull drinks at the Roundhouse.......


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019645/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Family-believe-died-quit-alcohol.html#ixzz1TPO5BBYW

wm

21merc7
07-28-2011, 10:13 AM
wm;

Having checked in an alcoholic 5 times, I can say this. Each time they immediately put this colleague on an i.v. drip full of vitamins, and then some meds, usually barbiturates. I was told b/c he drank 24/7 he could not just detox himself by not drinking as all vital organs would shut down. This man was drinking 24/7 for years though, not for a few days. He also did not eat, just drink and some drugs on occasion.

IDK about Amy's drug or alcohol issues. It was clear she was not eating from the photos. I do know that if she used heroin, stopped, then went back to it and used her normal amount, it would be lethal. I saw heroin mentioned earlier in the thread. Different story on that issue.

waltzingmatilda
07-28-2011, 10:25 AM
21merc7, Thanks so much for weighing in. I was hoping some of our sleuths with insight and expertise in this subject would enlighten those of us who aren't familiar with it.

I do think AW was on 'something' three days before when she stumbled onstage at her god daughter's concert. Yet her dr gave her a clean bill of health the night before she passed. I wonder if she was being drug tested regularly as part of her contract with her record label? It would make sense because she was such a talent and moneymaker for them. Alot of peeps' earnings depended on her being well. MOO.

Detox sounds rough! I had no idea that vital organs would shut down by going cold turkey. Poor Amy....

wm

southcitymom
07-28-2011, 11:45 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019645/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Family-believe-died-quit-alcohol.html

I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinion on this.

snipped

Mitch and Janis' appearance at the house comes as it has been claimed the singer's death on Saturday was because she stopped drinking.
It is thought that Amy had been told to cut down on her drinking gradually, but her cold turkey approach to quitting the booze gave her frail body a shock it couldn’t handle.
A source close to the family told the paper: ‘Abstinence gave her body such a fright they thought it was eventually the cause of her death.

Amy’s father Mitch gave a touching eulogy where he said that Amy had beaten her battle with drink and drugs and she hadn’t drunk for three weeks and hadn’t touched drugs for years.
However it has been claimed that the singer was drinking gin and red bull drinks at the Roundhouse.......


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019645/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Family-believe-died-quit-alcohol.html#ixzz1TPO5BBYW

wm

BBM

This makes a lot of sense to me. Alcohol is a very dangerous drug to withdraw from and improper withdrawal can, indeed, cause death.

True story:

A number of years ago, my father was drinking a LOT of booze on a daily basis and it was getting the better of him. On his own, he decided to cut back so that he would be in good shape for my sister's wedding.

In the receiving line after her ceremony, my Dad had a grand mal seizure and had to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance.

His blood alcohol when taken at the hospital was .43......and even at .43, he didn't have ENOUGH alcohol in his dependent system and his body responded with the seizure.

Boggles the mind - the average person would be dead with a .43 BAC, but for someone conditioned with copious amounts of alcohol, .43 BAC isn't enough for the body.

Rest in peace, Amy.

wfgodot
07-28-2011, 02:15 PM
It's frequently said of addicts that they "died clean, that's what killed them." This only and unwisely provides an excuse for living addicts to continue their addictions. And it is frequently poppycock, believed, and employed, for various reasons.

Inevitable headline below, SPOILER ALERT: according to record company sources, she left the "framework" for about a dozen unfinished songs, her studio achievement - besides the track on the forthcoming Tony Bennett album - in the last five years (almost five; Back to Black was released in October 2006). So that's the "trove" mentioned in the AP link below.

Amy Winehouse left trove of unreleased music (http://newsok.com/amy-winehouse-left-trove-of-unreleased-music/article/feed/280341?custom_click=headlines_widget)

OneLostGrl
07-28-2011, 03:55 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019645/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Family-believe-died-quit-alcohol.html

I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinion on this.

snipped

Mitch and Janis' appearance at the house comes as it has been claimed the singer's death on Saturday was because she stopped drinking.
It is thought that Amy had been told to cut down on her drinking gradually, but her cold turkey approach to quitting the booze gave her frail body a shock it couldn’t handle.
A source close to the family told the paper: ‘Abstinence gave her body such a fright they thought it was eventually the cause of her death.

Amy’s father Mitch gave a touching eulogy where he said that Amy had beaten her battle with drink and drugs and she hadn’t drunk for three weeks and hadn’t touched drugs for years.
However it has been claimed that the singer was drinking gin and red bull drinks at the Roundhouse.......


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019645/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Family-believe-died-quit-alcohol.html#ixzz1TPO5BBYW

wm

I can see this being the truth ("cold turkey" alcohol withdrawal can kill) but I can also see it as her parents creating it as their truth because it's easier to remember their beloved daughter this way- clean and sober at the time of her death... She beat her demons but they killed her anyway.

Either way my heart goes out to them...

Gozgals
07-28-2011, 06:38 PM
I can see this being the truth ("cold turkey" alcohol withdrawal can kill) but I can also see it as her parents creating it as their truth because it's easier to remember their beloved daughter this way- clean and sober at the time of her death... She beat her demons but they killed her anyway.

Either way my heart goes out to them...

Maybe it was the alcohol withdrawal but she seemed to be falling all over a few nights prior at the concert. I doubt she was off drugs for years as her parents are saying. It has to be denial and I understand that.

Good pts. wfgodot. and all on the addiction part of the conversation. I agree.

Gioz

For The Kids
07-28-2011, 08:16 PM
That is so sad such a great talent gone. She should have listened to her own words and went to rehab.

She did....many times in fact. Actually she was being tested weekly by her Dr...and had been testing clean for drugs.

wfgodot
07-28-2011, 08:21 PM
Do we have a reliable MSM source or a statement from her doctor that says she tested negative for drugs? Or an objective source in a position to know definitively that she was sober for the last 3 (your choice) weeks-months-years?

Alcohol is a drug, albeit a legal one, and thinking addictions are cured if the victim is still
drinking goes against much evidence that this will not for long be the case - if it ever was.

DEPUTYDAWG
07-28-2011, 08:42 PM
We're there earlier reports that she had pretty much binged the least few days? And I thought her mom had even said Amy was in a bad spot the last day or so. (Maybe now she's believing it's from going cold turkey?)

I'm going to guess (that's all I can do) that the parents are in denial. I guess that doesn't really hurt anyone else at this point, and if that makes it easier for them, maybe that's okay.

So sad. So very sad.

Filly
07-31-2011, 12:28 PM
Just thought I would share as I heard this song last evening. I am familiar with Howard Tate because of his music and because he grew up here in Philly.

Tate IMO an accomplished Bluesman found himself addicted and homeless. After 25 years he recovered and went back to his music sharing his talent with the world.

Cut in 2008 the song about Amy Winehouse almost has a caustic edge. However, Mr. Tate said it isn't so. Probably just the opposite. He prayed and prayed for Amy Winehouse I suppose in a way only another addict could.

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/aint-miss-beehivin/Content?oid=1197425

I'll see if I can find a YouTube clip of it. "Miss Beehive".

Filly
07-31-2011, 12:40 PM
Do we have a reliable MSM source or a statement from her doctor that says she tested negative for drugs? Or an objective source in a position to know definitively that she was sober for the last 3 (your choice) weeks-months-years?

Alcohol is a drug, albeit a legal one, and thinking addictions are cured if the victim is still
drinking goes against much evidence that this will not for long be the case - if it ever was.

No, that would be she was clean for "'bout a month". If lost a pound for every addict I have ever heard say that I'd be looking like Christie Brinkley. Heck, I'd look like Twiggy.

In Filly world and again it's just from my experience that a person can get some clean time in. Then they pick up and go right back to drinking a bottle of vodka, or shooting five bags of dope just like they did pre clean time. Ultimately this is what kills people. Your tolerance obviously is not the same, but the nature of addiction dictates ya have to go big. Go more. No baby steps. So technically I believe people truly think their loved one was clean when they died. The "lapse" or "relapse" doesn't count.

Of course we don't know if this was the case with Miss Winehouse. Will we ever? The moral is don't mess with drugs and alcohol period. You usually wind up like Miss Winehouse or locked up.

wfgodot
07-31-2011, 12:52 PM
Here's H-Tate's "Miss Beehive":
&#x202a;"Miss Beehive" A Song For Amy Winehouse&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

deelytful1
07-31-2011, 01:40 PM
I'm waiting on the ME's report and i really feel for the parents but the only dangerous time for an alcoholic and withdrawals is perhaps a few days after stopping cold turkey (from everything I know and have read). According to what i have heard, her parents are saying she was off alcohol for 3 weeks! She would be out of the danger zone at this point.
People are claiming she was pregnant. An ectopic pregnancy can be very dangerous..even early on.
Again, we shall see soon enough when the autopsy reports come back.

deelytful1
07-31-2011, 01:41 PM
My younger sister died a few years ago, after battling for years with anorexia and alcohol abuse...she tried rehab many times, but it just didn't work out for her, although she always had the best intentions and wrote such heartbreakingly optimistic letters about how well she was doing and how she was looking forward to her life...I imagine Amy's family endured much the same, as did Amy. Everything came rushing back to me this weekend hearing about Amy's death. My mom never really recovered and died just as heartbroken as the day it happened. I hope Amy's family can find a way.

:hug: sorry for your loss :(

jjenny
08-01-2011, 12:13 AM
She did....many times in fact. Actually she was being tested weekly by her Dr...and had been testing clean for drugs.

When tox screen comes back, we will know what was in her system when she died. Until that comes back, I will take "alcohol withdrawal theory" with a grain of salt.

txsvicki
08-01-2011, 12:33 AM
One news report claimed that a doctor told Amy that she needed to ease off of alcohol. That doesn't sound like very good advice. How can an alcoholic ease off drinking and be able to control it, and I've never heard of a rehab doing things that way. A friend of hers came on and said that she believed Amy got the drugs out of her system then did the same amount as she'd been doing, which was then way too much and killed her.

wfgodot
08-01-2011, 11:22 AM
more tabloid fodder:

'Amy Winehouse bought £1,200 of crack and heroin the night before she died', claims fixer (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2020963/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-bought-1-200-drugs-night-died.html) (Daily Mail)

Filly
08-01-2011, 07:02 PM
One news report claimed that a doctor told Amy that she needed to ease off of alcohol. That doesn't sound like very good advice. How can an alcoholic ease off drinking and be able to control it, and I've never heard of a rehab doing things that way. A friend of hers came on and said that she believed Amy got the drugs out of her system then did the same amount as she'd been doing, which was then way too much and killed her.

If a Doctor told Amy Winehouse to "ease off" the alcohol I'd say he should be liable in some way. Of course it depends on how much she was drinking of course, but with all the other demons this poor young woman battled any Doctor that didn't care for her in a supervised setting had to be a rotten Doctor. Kicking heroin isn't going to kill you although I am sure people wish they would die during a kick. Crack well I'm not so sure, but alcohol? I'm pretty sure they still give librium to alcoholics in detox. Sout City Mom pretty much explained those dangers.

Her so called "friend" just may be right because after you kick and you go a little while clean when you pick up you go right back to what you were using before.

No matter how this poor young lady died it's a dang shame. I don't care if she was famous and could sing her a*s off and had enough soul in her pinky to put many artists out in the cold. She was human.

Like Cluciano's elderly mom I have to say my mom as well who is in her 70's flat out said "This kid has it. She's got that it. She's fiercely talented. You can't teach that.". She really enjoyed her voice. Of course she had to add that the Gaga ain't got a thing on Miss Winehouse.

On an aside many people believe that Billie Holiday met her death due to heroin use. That was not true. She beat the dope, but picked up alcohol and that killed her. God may she rest in peace as well.

southcitymom
08-03-2011, 07:01 PM
Amy Winehouse and the Perils of Alcohol Withdrawal

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/amy-winehouse-and-the-perils-of-alcohol-withdrawal/

Whether or not alcohol withdrawal played a factor in Winehouse's death, this article is very informative.

wfgodot
08-03-2011, 11:14 PM
Amy Winehouse duet with Tony Bennett to benefit drug charity (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/04/amy-winehouse-tony-bennett-charity) (Guardian)
A duet between jazz great Tony Bennett and the late singer Amy Winehouse is being released as a single to benefit a charity established by her father, Bennett's spokeswoman confirmed.

The classic pop standard Body and Soul that Winehouse recorded with Bennett in March is one of her last works.
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The song will also appear on Bennett's Duets II CD to be released on 20 September.
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(more at link above)

annmarie62
08-04-2011, 08:54 AM
I am glad your sister seems to have made it...I know my sister really tried and she had tons of support but that is not always enough.

My mom, even though she was close to 80 when Amy became known in the US, took to her right away, as she heard about her problems. She also read Kurt Cobain's bio and others who died from addiction-based issues...she tried so hard to help others understand that it really is an illness, bless her heart.
WOW, your Mom sounds like an INCREDIBLE person!!

waltzingmatilda
08-04-2011, 09:50 AM
If a Doctor told Amy Winehouse to "ease off" the alcohol I'd say he should be liable in some way. Of course it depends on how much she was drinking of course, but with all the other demons this poor young woman battled any Doctor that didn't care for her in a supervised setting had to be a rotten Doctor. Kicking heroin isn't going to kill you although I am sure people wish they would die during a kick. Crack well I'm not so sure, but alcohol? I'm pretty sure they still give librium to alcoholics in detox. Sout City Mom pretty much explained those dangers.

Her so called "friend" just may be right because after you kick and you go a little while clean when you pick up you go right back to what you were using before.

No matter how this poor young lady died it's a dang shame. I don't care if she was famous and could sing her a*s off and had enough soul in her pinky to put many artists out in the cold. She was human.

Like Cluciano's elderly mom I have to say my mom as well who is in her 70's flat out said "This kid has it. She's got that it. She's fiercely talented. You can't teach that.". She really enjoyed her voice. Of course she had to add that the Gaga ain't got a thing on Miss Winehouse.
On an aside many people believe that Billie Holiday met her death due to heroin use. That was not true. She beat the dope, but picked up alcohol and that killed her. God may she rest in peace as well.

Lol, Filly, I love your mom more every time you share stories about her!!! I bolded the above because my dear bf made the same comparison between Gaga and AW. Although I like Gaga because she studied her craft,writes her own music AND my baby sis called me Gaga when she was little, (I guess that makes me the original Gaga, LOL:D)her music doesn't hold a candle to AW's music, IMO.

I am so excited to hear the AW/Tony Bennet duet. It should be awesome!!!

wm

Cazzie
08-04-2011, 09:51 AM
I miss her although I am "playing catchup" with her music.

Regarding her many references in lyrics to "tears drying up" and "black"...

Do you think these lines were referencing her substance "experimentation"? Or does being black or going black refer to depression, down moods, or ?

What a phenomenal voice, writer and performer (and much more)...in addition to being physically beautiful and so young...

RIP Amy :rose:

Gone way, way too soon, IMO...

waltzingmatilda
08-07-2011, 10:21 AM
I miss her although I am "playing catchup" with her music.

Regarding her many references in lyrics to "tears drying up" and "black"...

Do you think these lines were referencing her substance "experimentation"? Or does being black or going black refer to depression, down moods, or ?

What a phenomenal voice, writer and performer (and much more)...in addition to being physically beautiful and so young...

RIP Amy :rose:

Gone way, way too soon, IMO...

Cazzie, I think it was a little of both. I do think that AW became a tormented soul as her career skyrocketed.

A 'friend' of hers discusses how Amy became isolated due to her fame in this article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2023301/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-replaced-drugs-white-wine-final-days.html

~snipped form article~

‘Before, she’d been excited by any attention from the paparazzi, but this night they hounded her everywhere we went. It seemed like the whole of Camden stopped and stared when she walked down the street.
‘Suddenly we couldn’t just pop to the pub and play pool because people would start acting weirdly around her. That really started to get to her.’
It was also difficult to miss the fact that Amy had developed a problem with drink and drugs. ‘She’d be at home on her own bored and having a drink because she couldn’t go out anywhere without the world staring at her,’ says Kristian.
‘Amy had developed into two characters. There was the person who most of the general public thought she was like: an alcoholic, addicted to drugs, a physical mess, prone to fighting – but behind closed doors she was not at all like that.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2023301/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-replaced-drugs-white-wine-final-days.html#ixzz1ULtxBTZZ

I am not a tatoo fan, nothing against them....just personal preference, but I loved Amy's tatoos! :rocker: She was certainly one of the most uniquely talented performers of our time, IMO. AW exhibted an outward toughness, yet her vulnerability was apparant thru her music.

MOO

wm

jjenny
08-07-2011, 10:39 AM
Amy Winehouse and the Perils of Alcohol Withdrawal

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/amy-winehouse-and-the-perils-of-alcohol-withdrawal/

Whether or not alcohol withdrawal played a factor in Winehouse's death, this article is very informative.

I think alcohol withdrawal is a bizarre theory, and when tox screen comes in, I'd be really surprised if her death had anything to do with "alcohol withdrawal."

wfgodot
08-07-2011, 11:04 AM
I have no idea as to the degree of truth here, possibly just a hanger-on's fantasy sold to a tabloid with the extra bonus of a print reference for his band, but it does have at least the faint ring of truth:

Amy had replaced drugs with white wine. She woke up
and drank, she lost track of the days, say friends of dead star (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2023301/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-replaced-drugs-white-wine-final-days.html?ito=feeds-newsxml) (Daily Mail; actually, it's just one person saying so)
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The problem was that she replaced drugs with alcohol. White wine was her main drink and sometimes she would wake up and drink. It meant she lost track of days – for Amy there was no day or night, no Monday or Friday. Three months ago I popped round to her house one afternoon, found her asleep on the kitchen floor and had to help her to bed.
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much more, not without interest (albeit prurient interest), at link above

waltzingmatilda
08-07-2011, 12:08 PM
I have no idea of the validity of this person's claims either, woof. He sure seems to have had a history with AW based on what he says. I hope that if it is true that he and Amy laid down a track together that it is released someday!

What he says about Amy's drinking and losing track of day and night, dark and light is certainly believable to me. I often wonder if the reports of Amy's Dr telling her to wean herself off the drink slowly wasn't just an excuse for her to drink in front of others and an attempt to control the compulsion. JMO.

wm

In da Middle
08-07-2011, 08:22 PM
I have no idea of the validity of this person's claims either, woof. He sure seems to have had a history with AW based on what he says. I hope that if it is true that he and Amy laid down a track together that it is released someday!

What he says about Amy's drinking and losing track of day and night, dark and light is certainly believable to me. I often wonder if the reports of Amy's Dr telling her to wean herself off the drink slowly wasn't just an excuse for her to drink in front of others and an attempt to control the compulsion. JMO.

wm

Alcohol withdrawal CAN be fatal! Not usually, but it is very possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism#Alcohol_withdrawal

Not saying this is what happened to her, but just acknowledging that it IS possible!

LadyL
08-07-2011, 09:01 PM
it amazes me how many people have been quoted in the press as having lost 'the love of their life' or their 'best friend' ...

it does sound like she was a generous soul though and everyone's 'mama'

waltzingmatilda
08-09-2011, 09:30 AM
it amazes me how many people have been quoted in the press as having lost 'the love of their life' or their 'best friend' ...

it does sound like she was a generous soul though and everyone's 'mama'

I believe you are correct LadyL. This article is a nice tribute to Amy by her goddaughter. Except that the DM brought up the 'fixer'. If the toxicology reports show drugs in Amy's system, I hope he is arrested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2024109/She-best-days-later-gone-Dionne-Bromfield-opens-mother-figure-Amy-Winehouse.html

~snipped~

Despite the rumours Dionne has said she will remember Amy as ‘loving’ and a ‘mother figure’.

She said: ‘She loved cooking, she loved singing she was just a really, really sweet person. She was like a mother figure to me.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2024109/She-best-days-later-gone-Dionne-Bromfield-opens-mother-figure-Amy-Winehouse.html#ixzz1UXQVVZMM

wm

waltzingmatilda
08-11-2011, 01:15 PM
Sorry to hijack the thread everyone but this just makes me sad....

http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/11/amy-winehouses-dad-mitch-stolen-thief-house-home-england/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2024763/Amy-Winehouse-home-robbed-died-Unreleased-songs-pilfered-claims-dad-Mitch.html

wm

southcitymom
08-11-2011, 02:48 PM
I think alcohol withdrawal is a bizarre theory, and when tox screen comes in, I'd be really surprised if her death had anything to do with "alcohol withdrawal."

You might be right - we'll see!

Cazzie
08-11-2011, 03:38 PM
I think compassion is needed...whatever the cause of Amy's death.

Maybe someday there won't be such a strong and pervasive stigma about addictions, and people won't be judgmental, but will consider addictions to be similar to cancer and other more "acceptable" potentially terminal diseases. I can dream...and I will.

There is always hope...SIGH. :(

That said, we don't know the COD yet.

Amy was a human being, deserving of love and compassion just like everyone else.

Perhaps she's singing with that incredibly huge band in Heaven now and/or is an angel... :angel:

badhorsie
08-11-2011, 06:50 PM
Sorry to hijack the thread everyone but this just makes me sad....

http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/11/amy-winehouses-dad-mitch-stolen-thief-house-home-england/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2024763/Amy-Winehouse-home-robbed-died-Unreleased-songs-pilfered-claims-dad-Mitch.html

wm

What a sick thing to do, I hope whoever did that is cursed by what he/she stole

Elphaba
08-16-2011, 10:03 PM
Green Day has written a tribute song to Amy. I like it, a lot... it's a sweet, (but sad) tribute to her.

http://perezhilton.com/2011-08-16-green-day-debuts-new-song-in-tribute-to-amy-winehouse

LadyL
08-16-2011, 11:08 PM
sounds like an early Beatles recording ...

I love Greenday but this song isn't doing it for me ... too familiar & simplistic for me

Dr. Know?
08-23-2011, 10:05 AM
This is on twitter right now. Short one sentence article. Just says spokesman said this.

Amy Winehouse Spokesman Says Toxicology Tests Show No Illegal Drugs in Her Body

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=14362477

This one says more

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_BRITAIN_AMY_WINEHOUSE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

For The Kids
08-23-2011, 10:20 AM
Its being reported here that there was no illegal drugts in her body but there were signs of alchohol. However when they say no illegal drugs...thats not saying she didnt have normal medication and possibly a overdose combined with the alchohol.

badhorsie
08-23-2011, 10:33 AM
I hope the dealer who reported he had sold her a load of drugs that night gets his just desserts
What a loser :liar: :sick:
Where is the loser smiley?

jjenny
08-23-2011, 10:56 AM
Since she had alcohol in her system, I suppose "alcohol withdrawal" theory can be put to rest.

Quiche
08-23-2011, 11:27 AM
Now we have a mystery. :waitasec:

southcitymom
08-23-2011, 11:34 AM
Since she had alcohol in her system, I suppose "alcohol withdrawal" theory can be put to rest.

Not yet....if she were drinking white wine all day long for some time (as one of her close friends said - that she had replaced street drugs with white wine) and then severely CUT her intake of white wine, she could have indeed died from alcohol withdrawal. More information is still needed.

It's great that she had no illegal drugs in her system, but frankly legal, doc-prescribed drugs can be AS if not MORE dangerous than certain street drugs. For example, she could have mixed therapeutic, doctor-sanctioned amounts of opiates, benzos and sleep meds with alcohol and that could have caused an OD.

Rest in peace, Amy.

southcitymom
08-23-2011, 11:36 AM
Also, she was such a tiny little thing and years of chemical abuse had probably put a major strain on her body systems...even if no illegal drugs were found, I don't think I could ever believe that her drug abuse didn't contribute to her death in some form or fashion.

Silkprint
08-23-2011, 03:13 PM
Like was stated above she could still be on pain meds if they were prescribed for her which would make them legal . Sometimes when things are worded like that ...
Poor thing ..she was so troubled .
I hope she has peace

Herding Cats
08-23-2011, 04:05 PM
Just fyi, we have had patients who've had so much to drink, for so long, that they've had alcohol brought to them in the hospital...when the risk of convulsions outweigh the risks of alcohol, you do what you have to do to keep the patient alive.

It is not inconceivable - not nearly - that even if she'd had a small/reduced amount of alcohol in her system that she convulsed, or had systemic respiratory depression, or some other effect of either wd (which happens once you stop the peak of ingestion, and can last upwards of 5 days), or active drinking.

I must say I am glad that there were no illegal drugs in her system. My guess is still with WD and/or prescription and alcho combined.

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Herding Cats

LaWanda
08-23-2011, 05:28 PM
Just fyi, we have had patients who've had so much to drink, for so long, that they've had alcohol brought to them in the hospital...when the risk of convulsions outweigh the risks of alcohol, you do what you have to do to keep the patient alive.

It is not inconceivable - not nearly - that even if she'd had a small/reduced amount of alcohol in her system that she convulsed, or had systemic respiratory depression, or some other effect of either wd (which happens once you stop the peak of ingestion, and can last upwards of 5 days), or active drinking.

I must say I am glad that there were no illegal drugs in her system. My guess is still with WD and/or prescription and alcho combined.

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Herding Cats

When my uncle was in the hospital for a long period of time due to Cirrhosis they had to bring in his Beer because that's what his body was used to. He drinks beer with his Sausage Biscuit in the morning and continues til he goes to bed. He's been doing that for about 50 years now. The doctors told us that if they didn't bring the beer in, he would die.

Kat
08-23-2011, 06:29 PM
Also, she was such a tiny little thing and years of chemical abuse had probably put a major strain on her body systems...even if no illegal drugs were found, I don't think I could ever believe that her drug abuse didn't contribute to her death in some form or fashion.

She just wore her body out. She was very tiny.

Although in no way similiar were the causes of death this reminds me of Karen Carpenter, she died too because her body just wore out with Anorexia over the years.

jjenny
08-23-2011, 07:49 PM
Not yet....if she were drinking white wine all day long for some time (as one of her close friends said - that she had replaced street drugs with white wine) and then severely CUT her intake of white wine, she could have indeed died from alcohol withdrawal. More information is still needed.

It's great that she had no illegal drugs in her system, but frankly legal, doc-prescribed drugs can be AS if not MORE dangerous than certain street drugs. For example, she could have mixed therapeutic, doctor-sanctioned amounts of opiates, benzos and sleep meds with alcohol and that could have caused an OD.

Rest in peace, Amy.

She had alcohol in her system. I don't think that qualifies as withdrawal. We also don't have any evidence that intake was severely cut since the concentration of alcohol in her system was not released. I am curious as to what concentration it was.

southcitymom
08-23-2011, 08:51 PM
She had alcohol in her system. I don't think that qualifies as withdrawal. We also don't have any evidence that intake was severely cut since the concentration of alcohol in her system was not released. I am curious as to what concentration it was.

As I stated in an earlier post, my father went down with a grand mal seizure when he had a BAC of .34 (or .43....forget which number, but it was one of those) - he had the seizure because he didn't have ENOUGH alcohol in his system, which was used to a much higher level. He was in dangerous, life-threatening withdrawal even though A LOT of alcohol was present in his body.

Today, my father is fine and not drinking like that.

You may be absolutely correct that alcohol withdrawal did not contribute to Amy's death, but we don't enough information to rule it out.

Even with this new soundbite/factoid - "no illegal drugs found in her system" - they cannot determine cause of death at this point. And neither, of course, can we.

waltzingmatilda
08-24-2011, 06:22 AM
Tony Bennet will perform a tribute to Amy at this Sunday's VMA awards. I'll definately be watching. Love Tony Bennett!!!:D

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44250655/ns/today-entertainment/

wm

ziggy
08-29-2011, 03:29 PM
Nice tribute to Amy last night. Appropriate - not too long - Tony Bennett had wonderful things to say about her as an artist. I'm glad they did it right.

Fairy1
08-29-2011, 09:00 PM
Nice tribute to Amy last night. Appropriate - not too long - Tony Bennett had wonderful things to say about her as an artist. I'm glad they did it right.

Made me cry.

Kat
08-30-2011, 08:17 PM
I loved Bruno Mars tribute to her on the VMA's. He's got the sweetest voice.


http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/684911/amy-winehouse-medley-valerie-live.jhtml

wonders
09-05-2011, 03:46 PM
I purchased a Back In Black CD Saturday simply because I love her style in her music.
It came with the lyrics and I just have to say that I feel so bad for Amy, I believe her songs where how she saw her life. Truthfully it made me feel like crying. I think she was such a lonely tortured soul. I wish she had thought more of herself and I have to wonder why she felt she didn't deserve anything good. (I realize drugs could have caused her to have these feelings) but what was she like before drugs and drink? Gosh I wish she had a second chance to be happy here on this earth. I guess I have to believe that she is in a better place now I truely hope that she does rest in peace.

TickleB
09-07-2011, 12:30 AM
There is also the theory that Amy did in fact have emphysema and her lungs were working at the 70 percent capacity and an irregular heartbeat. All of this caused by her drug addiction.

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On 23 June 2008, Winehouse's publicist corrected earlier misstatements by Mitch Winehouse that his daughter had early stage emphysema, instead claiming she had signs of what could lead to early-stage emphysema.[210] Mitch Winehouse had also stated that his daughter's lungs were operating at 70 percent capacity and that she had an irregular heartbeat. Mitch Winehouse said that these problems had been caused by her chain smoking and crack cocaine use. The singer’s father also reported that doctors had warned Winehouse that, if she continued smoking crack cocaine, she would have to wear an oxygen mask and would eventually die.[211] In a radio interview, Mitch Winehouse said the singer was responding "fabulously" to treatment, which included being covered with nicotine patches.[212] British Lung Foundation spokesman Keith Prowse noted this type of condition could be managed with treatment. Prowse also said the condition was not normal for a person her age but "heavy smoking and inhaling other substances like drugs can age the lungs prematurely".[213] Norman H. Edelman of the American Lung Association explained that if she stopped smoking, her lung functions would decline at the rate of a normal person, but continued smoking would lead to a more rapid decline in lung function.[214] Photographs of the singer with a cigarette in her mouth, taken 23 June 2008, were widely published.[215]

deelytful1
09-07-2011, 12:40 AM
Did they have a FULL autopsy? it may have been something so under the radar and brought about BY her partying ways....
Or, allergic reaction? Bee sting? (anyphalactic (sp) shock) etc.....
I think (MOO) the ME just "assumed" something and they really didn't do the analysis that they should have... again MOO

southcitymom
09-10-2011, 01:46 PM
According to Amy's Dad, she had Librium (prescribed) in her system:

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/09/amy-winehouse-father-dad-mitch-winehouse-anderson-cooper-interview-illegal-drugs-alcohol-prescription-rx-video-new-talk-show/?adid=hero4#.TmugiOtEBhE

He thinks she may have died from alcohol withdrawal too. Librium is commonly prescribed by MDs to keep detoxing alcoholics from having seizures, so it sounds like Amy's doctors (the ones of prescribed it) were concerned about this possibility as well.

jjenny
09-15-2011, 05:27 PM
According to Amy's Dad, she had Librium (prescribed) in her system:

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/09/amy-winehouse-father-dad-mitch-winehouse-anderson-cooper-interview-illegal-drugs-alcohol-prescription-rx-video-new-talk-show/?adid=hero4#.TmugiOtEBhE

He thinks she may have died from alcohol withdrawal too. Librium is commonly prescribed by MDs to keep detoxing alcoholics from having seizures, so it sounds like Amy's doctors (the ones of prescribed it) were concerned about this possibility as well.

She had alcohol in her system (and I believe we still don't know how much). So she wasn't exactly withdrawn from alcohol.

Herding Cats
09-15-2011, 08:25 PM
She had alcohol in her system (and I believe we still don't know how much). So she wasn't exactly withdrawn from alcohol.

I have noted that you're not sure of the whole w/d thing...and I know it's a weird concept...

But with ETOH W/D, any amount LESS than the body is habituated to, is considered withdrawl. If you're used to drinking 2 pints of gin a day (example), anything less than drinking 2 pints of gin can send you into w/d. Even if you drink 2 pints of wine, you can still go into w/d, simply because the body becomes used to operating under the gin, and 'needs' it to function properly.

We were taught that the moment your BAC goes lower than you've habituated it to, and/or a different type of ETOH (e.g. grain alcohol v. fruit alcohol), you are at risk of w/d.

W/D does not always mean seizures, but if you've had one, you will have them again. It doesn't always mean DTs (delirium tremens), but again, if you have them once, you will always have them.

And the headache a hangover brings? That's w/d, in it's most mildest form.

It's a strange concept, like I said. But the body just can't handle an abrupt decrease of alcohol consumption easily. In school, I recall, we were horrified that there had been the use of an alcohol drip directly into someone's system during emergency surgery (happened to one of our instructors), and discussed this phenomena at length that day...they used it because they just could not risk a seizure during an emergency surgery.

I also think that she may have had arrythmias due to her reduced body fat; she was anorexic, to be sure, as well as alcoholic and had reduced lung function. A heart arrythmia can happen because of imbalanced electrolytes, low oxygen, and/or any other combination (drugs, illegal and legal). Alcohol can intensify this effect, too.

Again, I know it's a strange weirdness of the body, but it's medical fact, not fiction, that the body habituates to a certain level of drugs, alcohol included, and lessening them can start a withdrawl process that is, quite literally, life-threatening.

Hope this helps...

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jjenny
10-26-2011, 09:20 AM
It was too much, not too little.
"A coroner says Amy Winehouse died as the unintended consequence of drinking too much alcohol."
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45045102/ns/today-entertainment/

waltzingmatilda
10-26-2011, 10:05 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053581/Amy-Winehouse-inquest-Stars-final-hours-revealed.html

The night before she died the 27-year-old said she did not know if she was going to stop drinking but 'she did not want to die'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053581/Amy-Winehouse-inquest-Stars-final-hours-revealed.html#ixzz1bteUh8pd

wm

deelytful1
10-26-2011, 10:33 AM
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/coroner-amy-winehouse-died-too-much-alcohol-123334324.html

Coroner Suzanne Greenaway gave a verdict of "death by misadventure," saying the singer died of accidental alcohol poisoning. "The unintended consequence of such potentially fatal levels (of alcohol) was her sudden and unexpected death," Greenaway said.

Pathologist Suhail Baithun told the inquest into the singer's death that Winehouse had consumed a "very large quantity of alcohol" — the level in her blood put her more than five times over the legal drunk-driving limit.

Wow! 5 times over the legal limit AND taking librium?

wfgodot
10-26-2011, 10:44 AM
"Death by misadventure" unfortunately sums up Amy's benighted career.

wonders
10-27-2011, 03:07 PM
I still feel horrible about Amy's death. I wish we could go back in time to save her and hope that she would have had a wonderful life. Rest in Peace Amy.

Gozgals
10-27-2011, 06:22 PM
"Death by misadventure" unfortunately sums up Amy's benighted career.

Read that today and never have seen that one before... What's that all about?

Goz

kline
10-30-2011, 04:35 AM
Read that today and never have seen that one before... What's that all about?

GozIve seen that phrase before,its pretty antique usually its a nice way to put on a Death Certificate doing something stupid or reckless that results in your own death.
As a lucky survivor of many 'misadventures ' in my younger days I can relate.
She was certainly a rare talent and it is a tragic loss regardless.

Cazzie
10-30-2011, 08:04 AM
I still feel horrible about Amy's death. I wish we could go back in time to save her and hope that she would have had a wonderful life. Rest in Peace Amy.
Me too, to all of that.

As a music lover, I'm devastated...she had "it". And I was just beginning to check out her music...haven't even come close to hearing all of it yet. I'm always sad when a musician dies...no future music coming from them, unless it was never released and finally comes out.

And as a human being, I have a great deal of compassion for her. It's always so easy to look at someone's life and think "they had it made! what happened?".

And then some of us will be left wondering if she was "just" partying, consoling herself about something(s), or knew what the consequences might likely be (iow, suicide by alcohol). Very sad. :(

arielilane
10-30-2011, 09:22 PM
Amy was a rare talent...she is missed. Her voice amazing. Her dad did an interview on Piers Morgan a while back. He is a kind soul that paid an honest and honorable tribute to Amy.

Librium (Chlordiazepoxide) is used for anxiety and to control agitation caused by alcohol withdrawal.

waltzingmatilda
10-31-2011, 11:51 AM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032084/ns/today-entertainment/

Posthumous Amy Winehouse album set for release

'Lioness: Hidden Treasures' to feature unreleased recordings by late singer.....

"It was said by all who worked with Amy that she never sang or played a song the same way twice," the statement read.

RIP Amy. I will never tire of listening to your music and incredible voice.

wm

wonders
10-31-2011, 12:08 PM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032084/ns/today-entertainment/

Posthumous Amy Winehouse album set for release

'Lioness: Hidden Treasures' to feature unreleased recordings by late singer.....

]"It was said by all who worked with Amy that she never sang or played a song the same way twice," the statement read[/B].

RIP Amy. I will never tire of listening to your music and incredible voice.

wm

I found two versons of her singing Valerie and love both of them. I wonder what will be on the new album.

southcitymom
11-08-2011, 08:22 PM
Read that today and never have seen that one before... What's that all about?

Goz

I have heard it before - a couple of times. I think it is meant to distinguish that it wasn't intentional, wasn't suicide.

waltzingmatilda
11-17-2011, 10:59 AM
I found two versons of her singing Valerie and love both of them. I wonder what will be on the new album.


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45336444/ns/today-entertainment/

Only two of the tracks Winehouse wrote were recorded and appear on her compilation album, "Lioness: Hidden Treasures," out Dec. 5 in the United Kingdom, and a day later in America.

Before her third album would come out, Remi said, Winehouse wanted to record with Roots drummer ?uestlove and saxophone player Soweto Kinch.

"There were a bunch of other names bouncing around," Remi said.
Story: Coroner: Amy Winehouse died from too much alcohol
?uestlove did make the new album, though. He appears on the track "Half Time." There's also a song by an 18-year-old Winehouse, another about her ex-husband's infidelity and "Best Friend," which opens with the line: "I can't wait to get away from you."



Mark your Calenders!

wm

wfgodot
07-23-2012, 09:05 AM
Amy Winehouse died one year ago today.

epiphany
07-23-2012, 12:30 PM
Amy Winehouse died one year ago today.

Amy with Rolling Stones: Ain't Too Proud To Beg

Amy Winehouse & Rolling Stones - Ain't to Proud to Beg - YouTube

Gardenlady
07-23-2012, 05:02 PM
Still miss her... Peace, Amy! :rose:

shana
07-28-2012, 03:15 AM
NOTHING this girl couldn't do, even tackling David Ruffin on "Ain't Too Proud...".

I miss you, Amy. And like Heath gone before you, there is much you would have given...but I'm grateful for all that you gave in your short time among us.

R.I.P. eternally

~jmo~

Kat
07-28-2012, 07:05 AM
Amy with Rolling Stones: Ain't Too Proud To Beg

Amy Winehouse & Rolling Stones - Ain't to Proud to Beg - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoTzgWvMP-8&feature=related)

aww man. She was so high she couldn't keep up epiph. I loved the video but really she was so freakin' high there.

Bless her heart. She lost her battle with the dragon. Love her and miss her but it hurts to see her like that...

RIP baby girl.

(ETA: called a member by the wrong name, corrected it!)

BetteDavisEyes
01-08-2013, 03:23 PM
2nd Winehouse inquest confirms alcohol death

By JILL LAWLESS, AP
6 hours ago

LONDON — Amy Winehouse died from accidental alcohol poisoning when she resumed drinking after a period of abstinence, a second coroner's inquest confirmed Tuesday.

Coroner Shirley Radcliffe ruled that the 27-year-old soul singer "died as a result of alcohol toxicity" and recorded a verdict of death by misadventure. She said there were no suspicious circumstances.

She said Winehouse "voluntarily consumed alcohol — a deliberate act that took an unexpected turn and led to her death."

Tuesday's verdict was identical to that produced by a first inquest in 2011. But the result of that hearing was annulled after the original coroner was found to lack the proper qualifications for the job.

The Grammy-winning singer, who fought a very public battle with drug and alcohol abuse for years, was found dead at her London home on July 23, 2011, with empty vodka bottles scattered around her...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20130108/EU.Britain.Amy.Winehouse/