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MyBelle
07-31-2011, 08:33 PM
Exactly. Police weren't at all suspicious when Max died. The only reason they are investigating his death further is because of suspicious death of RN.

Max died days after Rebecca.

scorekeeper
07-31-2011, 08:36 PM
In regards to what AS said regarding finding RN hanging and cut her down that is what AS told responding officers. If you go further into the press conference video during the reporters questions to Captain Curran about the 911 call this is what he says. "That there was a woman on the property and that she appeared to be dead".

waiting for an answer to this question with bated breath...might even skip the banana cream pie to stay in here to keeping checking for an answer, lol...;)

Paladine,

You must have been reading and posting at same time :waitasec:

defense101 answered before your post.......:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Paladine
07-31-2011, 08:38 PM
July 18th, 2011 from police:

According to sheriff’s Sgt. Roy Frank, Coronado police are looking into Max’s death, while the sheriff’s homicide unit continues to spearhead the probe into Zahau’s case.

Frank said Zahau’s death is not believed to have stemmed from a sexual act taken too far, as some have speculated. “We don’t believe this was an accident,” he said.

Corbin said ]two people [/B]were in the home at the time of the fall — Zahau and a 13-year-old girl who is related to the woman. Corbin would not say how the two are related.

Wonder if Max investigation is still under Coronodo Police, while Rebeccas has been 'elevated', brought to a 'higher' homicide-level?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/18/death-of-shacknai-boy-sparks-investigation/

scorekeeper
07-31-2011, 08:45 PM
July 18th, 2011 from police:







Wonder if Max investigation is still under Coronodo Police, while Rebeccas has been 'elevated', brought to a 'higher' homicide-level?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/18/death-of-shacknai-boy-sparks-investigation/

Coronado Police doesn't have a homicide unit, so they called in the Sherrif's Office to look at RN's death. Coronado LE are still handling MS's inquiry.

Paladine
07-31-2011, 08:45 PM
the news media don't get their stories from pr spinners, they get them directly from the cops and then call the pr agency for comment. So, if the police are not commenting or are telling the media to embargo what they are telling them, the media will honor it. At this point, the PR agency knows no more than we do.

I would venture a guess the PR agency would want JS, thereby the Co., seen in the best possible light at least while the investigation continues...maybe, the police know who they are dealing with so they are tight-lipped, so pr spin is feeding us a tale of sorts through their links with media...? Possible in my mind...

I gotta run..see ya'll tomorrow...keep fighting the good fight. :heartbeat:

pferrin
07-31-2011, 08:49 PM
Thanks Paladine so glad you didnt get captured by the WS 12 steppers..hehehe

arielilane
07-31-2011, 08:50 PM
Every news article I've read mentions only Rebecca being present when the incident took place.
Hi MyBelle, welcome! I have read a few articles that have mentioned a 13 year old being there at the time. So sad.

LaLaw2000
07-31-2011, 09:04 PM
If he cut her down before RM the knees would have fell close.

Inobu, I agree with you and had pointed it out in the last thread, or maybe the one before that. RM is the only explanation for her legs in that position, IMO.

Now my thoughts:

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think Rebecca's hands and feet were initially tied with the orange cord. I also think that she was, or had been, hogtied at some point. (yes, even though LE discounted that) I do not agree (as someone stated) that the blue item in the pic was a head stabilizer placed there by the paramedics. I think it is a scarf, and in one of the pics there is a very faint blue material around the front of her neck and spread out to the right side of her head. I further think that the material or scarf was tied on top of her hair with her hair being in a fixed position underneath it - almost draped around her shoulders if you will when she was laid on the lawn.

It is my thought that Rebecca was hanging upside down and her hair was obscuring her face until she was placed on the lawn. (see above)

I think this was a homicide whether it will officially be ruled that way or not. As for any suspects; I think all of them are suspect (without the S) at this time. We have read of both DS and JS having a temper. AS has an unknown past as far as temper is concerned. We know little about him other than he is JS' brother, lives in Memphis in a small apartment, and has chosen an unusual career given his family background. Then we have Rebeccas' ex. We know little about him as well. EX's can hold grudges and have resentment toward their EX.

As far as I am concerned, all four of the above are suspect in my mind, and any one of the four could have done this. I just will never believe that Rebecca did this to herself. IMO, she certainly loved her family and would not have humiliated them in this way of being found hanging naked.

*This is all just pure speculation on my part.

*Does anyone know where a video might be of LE stating Rebecca was found hanging by her neck? I have only heard them on video saying that she was found hanging. I do not believe the media reports because they have a huge tendency to be wrong.

Thanks!

MyBelle
07-31-2011, 09:05 PM
I would venture a guess the PR agency would want JS, thereby the Co., seen in the best possible light at least while the investigation continues...maybe, the police know who they are dealing with so they are tight-lipped, so pr spin is feeding us a tale of sorts through their links with media...? Possible in my mind...

I gotta run..see ya'll tomorrow...keep fighting the good fight. :heartbeat:

I have yet to see any PR agency able to control the media and certainly not the cops.

arielilane
07-31-2011, 09:09 PM
http://www.fox5sandiego.com/search/dispatcher.front?Query=shacknai&target=adv_article

pferrin
07-31-2011, 09:11 PM
MyBelle..here is a link to neighbor seeing girl child with Maxie.. Also..I belong to radioreference. They allow me to listen to scanners. I listened to archives the day Maxie fell.
The police took RN and another female to the hospital ..right afterthe ambulance. JS was already there..police told dispatch that RN had called him.

Anyway about an hour later police brought RN and GS (I believe) back to JS home

The police went to DS home several times from 1010 to 100 in afternoon. Noone could get hold of her. The police called many numbers. I listened to police and dispatch talking.

shortly after Maxie arrived at hospital..within an hour Maxie was taken to childrens hospital. http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/questions-remain-after-deaths-of-coronado-mansion-owners-son-girlfriend?redirected=true.

MizStery
07-31-2011, 09:13 PM
Welcome. :)

Repectfully bolded by me

The problem is the only confirmation we have that Rebecca was 'suspended', and AS cut her down, is AS.

A possible coverup is weighing heavy on my mind...I need more than just AS to tell me that.

(and thanks for your most entertaining post re; websleuths intervention Mizstery, lol...you weren't far from the truth, lol, I'm still sneaking in post time, they want me to DO things with them, lol, as in leave the computer and case ;)...and thanks to peace for bringing it to my attention; made my day :)


Paladine,don't you just hate it when the real world clashes with posting on Websleuths.Like you I also have people in the real world but they're not Websleuth's literate. :crazy:

I must say I have read a lot of posts butOceanblueyes and Matty were both amazing identifying the scary mindset of a sociopath. Ann Rule could not have done better and that is a compliment of the highest order!
:woohoo:

Also,a big Websleuths salute to arielilane for bringing
links over to the thread.:clap:

MyBelle
07-31-2011, 09:13 PM
Hi MyBelle, welcome! I have read a few articles that have mentioned a 13 year old being there at the time. So sad.

I found an article that mentions the 13-year-old making the 911 call. Doesn't say she witnessed his injury nor does it identify who she is and other articles have said the 911 call has been sealed. The mystery deepens, imo.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/19/jonah-shacknai-mansion-deaths-girlfriend-rebecca-nalepa-son-max-die-within-days.html

scorekeeper
07-31-2011, 09:19 PM
Inobu, I agree with you and had pointed it out in the last thread, or maybe the one before that. RM is the only explanation for her legs in that position, IMO.

Now my thoughts:

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think Rebecca's hands and feet were initially tied with the orange cord. I also think that she was, or had been, hogtied at some point. (yes, even though LE discounted that) I do not agree (as someone stated) that the blue item in the pic was a head stabilizer placed there by the paramedics. I think it is a scarf, and in one of the pics there is a very faint blue material around the front of her neck and spread out to the right side of her head. I further think that the material or scarf was tied on top of her hair with her hair being in a fixed position underneath it - almost draped around her shoulders if you will when she was laid on the lawn.

It is my thought that Rebecca was hanging upside down and her hair was obscuring her face until she was placed on the lawn. (see above)

I think this was a homicide whether it will officially be ruled that way or not. As for any suspects; I think all of them are suspect (without the S) at this time. We have read of both DS and JS having a temper. AS has an unknown past as far as temper is concerned. We know little about him other than he is JS' brother, lives in Memphis in a small apartment, and has chosen an unusual career given his family background. Then we have Rebeccas' ex. We know little about him as well. EX's can hold grudges and have resentment toward their EX.

As far as I am concerned, all four of the above are suspect in my mind, and any one of the four could have done this. I just will never believe that Rebecca did this to herself. IMO, she certainly loved her family and would not have humiliated them in this way of being found hanging naked.

*This is all just pure speculation on my part.

*Does anyone know where a video might be of LE stating Rebecca was found hanging by her neck? I have only heard them on video saying that she was found hanging. I do not believe the media reports because they have a huge tendency to be wrong.

Thanks!

BBM

There are many reports that say she was hanging but the only thing police have said is a repeat of WHAT AS told them......because he had supposedly cut her down before anyone arrived......so all we have is his word....

defense101
07-31-2011, 09:19 PM
Inobu, I agree with you and had pointed it out in the last thread, or maybe the one before that. RM is the only explanation for her legs in that position, IMO.

Now my thoughts:

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think Rebecca's hands and feet were initially tied with the orange cord. I also think that she was, or had been, hogtied at some point. (yes, even though LE discounted that) I do not agree (as someone stated) that the blue item in the pic was a head stabilizer placed there by the paramedics. I think it is a scarf, and in one of the pics there is a very faint blue material around the front of her neck and spread out to the right side of her head. I further think that the material or scarf was tied on top of her hair with her hair being in a fixed position underneath it - almost draped around her shoulders if you will when she was laid on the lawn.

It is my thought that Rebecca was hanging upside down and her hair was obscuring her face until she was placed on the lawn. (see above)

I think this was a homicide whether it will officially be ruled that way or not. As for any suspects; I think all of them are suspect (without the S) at this time. We have read of both DS and JS having a temper. AS has an unknown past as far as temper is concerned. We know little about him other than he is JS' brother, lives in Memphis in a small apartment, and has chosen an unusual career given his family background. Then we have Rebeccas' ex. We know little about him as well. EX's can hold grudges and have resentment toward their EX.

As far as I am concerned, all four of the above are suspect in my mind, and any one of the four could have done this. I just will never believe that Rebecca did this to herself. IMO, she certainly loved her family and would not have humiliated them in this way of being found hanging naked.

*This is all just pure speculation on my part.

*Does anyone know where a video might be of LE stating Rebecca was found hanging by her neck? I have only heard them on video saying that she was found hanging. I do not believe the media reports because they have a huge tendency to be wrong.

Thanks! In the Police press conference, Captain Curran states that the reporting party (AS) told responding officers that he found Nalepa with a rope around her neck, its about 40 secs in, the video is on page 5 of the videos.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/questions-remain-after-deaths-of-coronado-mansion-owners-son-girlfriend?redirected=true

arielilane
07-31-2011, 09:20 PM
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:jAsL9bdajSIJ:apps.sdsheriff.net/press/Default.aspx%3FFileLink%3D6dae38aa-7ca0-4c93-8cdb-37e06850a47b+dr.+jonah+shacknai&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgif5nHrgOu6LOnOUBMEFfNqoPXZYbMAIdoiJ4o mFu99RxZpACRiu9SffpuiVmbDZa-ZwYRkgwg8k3yVt-q9CmIjXZn7vDtCU9ohR_KnIO_xkFfDDLHuCwgdsqV9KwQKvGe0 bFS&sig=AHIEtbRhJ2Kxfic4uwDY8DFN_r1h19mJuQ)

Inobu, I agree with you and had pointed it out in the last thread, or maybe the one before that. RM is the only explanation for her legs in that position, IMO.

Now my thoughts:

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think Rebecca's hands and feet were initially tied with the orange cord. I also think that she was, or had been, hogtied at some point. (yes, even though LE discounted that) I do not agree (as someone stated) that the blue item in the pic was a head stabilizer placed there by the paramedics. I think it is a scarf, and in one of the pics there is a very faint blue material around the front of her neck and spread out to the right side of her head. I further think that the material or scarf was tied on top of her hair with her hair being in a fixed position underneath it - almost draped around her shoulders if you will when she was laid on the lawn.

It is my thought that Rebecca was hanging upside down and her hair was obscuring her face until she was placed on the lawn. (see above)

I think this was a homicide whether it will officially be ruled that way or not. As for any suspects; I think all of them are suspect (without the S) at this time. We have read of both DS and JS having a temper. AS has an unknown past as far as temper is concerned. We know little about him other than he is JS' brother, lives in Memphis in a small apartment, and has chosen an unusual career given his family background. Then we have Rebeccas' ex. We know little about him as well. EX's can hold grudges and have resentment toward their EX.

As far as I am concerned, all four of the above are suspect in my mind, and any one of the four could have done this. I just will never believe that Rebecca did this to herself. IMO, she certainly loved her family and would not have humiliated them in this way of being found hanging naked.

*This is all just pure speculation on my part.

*Does anyone know where a video might be of LE stating Rebecca was found hanging by her neck? I have only heard them on video saying that she was found hanging. I do not believe the media reports because they have a huge tendency to be wrong.

Thanks! This quote is from the above link.

The reporting party, later identified as Adam Shacknai told
responding Officers he found Nalepa with a rope around her neck and hanging from a balcony off the main house. When the
Coronado Units arrived at the scene, they located a female adult on the property who appeared to be deceased.
Prepared by: Tim Curran, Captain


Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call the Homicide Detail at (858) 974-2321/after hours at (858) 565-5200 or
Crime Stoppers at (888) 580-TIPS(8477).

arielilane
07-31-2011, 09:24 PM
I found an article that mentions the 13-year-old making the 911 call. Doesn't say she witnessed his injury nor does it identify who she is and other articles have said the 911 call has been sealed. The mystery deepens, imo.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/19/jonah-shacknai-mansion-deaths-girlfriend-rebecca-nalepa-son-max-die-within-days.html
Good point. I hope she didn't witness the incident.

MyBelle
07-31-2011, 09:26 PM
MyBelle..here is a link to neighbor seeing girl child with Maxie.. Also..I belong to radioreference. They allow me to listen to scanners. I listened to archives the day Maxie fell.
The police took RN and another female to the hospital ..right afterthe ambulance. JS was already there..police told dispatch that RN had called him.

Anyway about an hour later police brought RN and GS (I believe) back to JS home

The police went to DS home several times from 1010 to 100 in afternoon. Noone could get hold of her. The police called many numbers. I listened to police and dispatch talking.

shortly after Maxie arrived at hospital..within an hour Maxie was taken to childrens hospital. http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/questions-remain-after-deaths-of-coronado-mansion-owners-son-girlfriend?redirected=true.

thanks for the link. One story mentions Maxie was found "near" the stairs. The parents' statement about his death doesn't mention a fall, it just refers to his injuries.

Sounds to me that the child was pushed or jumped from the floor up above the stairwell. An autopsy should be able to determine the impact and from what height he fell. I continue to believe it was injury due to lack of supervision.

MyBelle
07-31-2011, 09:33 PM
MyBelle..here is a link to neighbor seeing girl child with Maxie.. Also..I belong to radioreference. They allow me to listen to scanners. I listened to archives the day Maxie fell.
The police took RN and another female to the hospital ..right afterthe ambulance. JS was already there..police told dispatch that RN had called him.

Anyway about an hour later police brought RN and GS (I believe) back to JS home

The police went to DS home several times from 1010 to 100 in afternoon. Noone could get hold of her. The police called many numbers. I listened to police and dispatch talking.

shortly after Maxie arrived at hospital..within an hour Maxie was taken to childrens hospital. http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/questions-remain-after-deaths-of-coronado-mansion-owners-son-girlfriend?redirected=true.

Is there a possibility the girl was Maxie's half-sister? I don't know the girl's name but isn't she around that age?

pferrin
07-31-2011, 09:34 PM
Dispatch told police a 6 year old girl at 1040..rescue and medic and police went to 1040 ocean..there is no 1040 ocean..

they called dispatch..she called house again..and said caller was hysterical..when she had first called. Dispatch got addy and they were there in seconds.

Dont know how he fell..but police did feel this was an accident.

The police stayed at the house with RN and GS (I believe) for a little bit after he took them home.

My Gut tells me that this was an accident..RN was doing CPR while rescue was en route.

RN's death IMO Homicide

LaLaw2000
07-31-2011, 09:35 PM
Music loud enough to disturb others is intentional in order to attract attention, imo. Murderers don't usually turn up the music to disturb the neighbors, which is why I think this was a suicide. We'll see.

There were teenage boys on the roof of the house next door supposedly taking pictures of Rebecca as she lay dead in the courtyard. Very callous, IMO.

Could these same teens have been the ones to have the loud music going? Sounds carry in the wee hours. Could it possibly be that this music was not coming from JS home? Could these same little guys been on the roof that night as well?

It would make no sense for such loud music to haave been heard during a murder or suicide. How could anyone know LE wouldn't have been called for a loud music complaint?

If media has reported that loud music was coming from the manse and it is the only source, then that does not make it true, IMO.

MOO

pferrin
07-31-2011, 09:35 PM
Is there a possibility the girl was Maxie's half-sister? I don't know the girl's name but isn't she around that age?

Yep sugar I cant say her name here we arent allowed but initials are GS

MyBelle
07-31-2011, 09:44 PM
Yep sugar I cant say her name here we arent allowed but initials are GS

ok, thanks. If that's the case, the cops really have their work cut out for them in sorting out what really happened to Max.

scorekeeper
07-31-2011, 09:53 PM
A really sad case.......NC - Addison Lanham.......may want to go and show your love..

NC - Addison Lanham, 2, Jul 21, 2011 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

defense101
07-31-2011, 09:53 PM
BBM

There are many reports that say she was hanging but the only thing police have said is a repeat of WHAT AS told them......because he had supposedly cut her down before anyone arrived......so all we have is his word....

That is right only AS word....

MyBelle
07-31-2011, 10:02 PM
There were teenage boys on the roof of the house next door supposedly taking pictures of Rebecca as she lay dead in the courtyard. Very callous, IMO.

Could these same teens have been the ones to have the loud music going? Sounds carry in the wee hours. Could it possibly be that this music was not coming from JS home? Could these same little guys been on the roof that night as well?

It would make no sense for such loud music to haave been heard during a murder or suicide. How could anyone know LE wouldn't have been called for a loud music complaint?

If media has reported that loud music was coming from the manse and it is the only source, then that does not make it true, IMO.

MOO

I thought it was neighbors who reported the loud music to cops. It makes sense that someone suicidal would play loud music. I know of cases of suicide where the person calls 911 themselves.

jjenny
07-31-2011, 10:06 PM
I thought it was neighbors who reported the loud music to cops. It makes sense that someone suicidal would play loud music. I know of cases of suicide where the person calls 911 themselves.

Nobody reported loud music to the cops.

oceanblueeyes
07-31-2011, 10:08 PM
That is right only AS word....

That is true but after this long I do believe LE knows whether what he told them rings true based on the evidence found. It would either be consistent or inconsistent.

I imagine it lines up with what he told LE.

IMO

Matty29
07-31-2011, 10:12 PM
Paladine,don't you just hate it when the real world clashes with posting on Websleuths.Like you I also have people in the real world but they're not Websleuth's literate. :crazy:

I must say I have read a lot of posts butOceanblueyes and Matty were both amazing identifying the scary mindset of a sociopath. Ann Rule could not have done better and that is a compliment of the highest order!
:woohoo:

Also,a big Websleuths salute to arielilane for bringing
links over to the thread.:clap:

Living with a person like this for so long, like I did, I can spot it a mile away, my Dad has done some crazy stuff of which I will note a few; we had a German shepard that barked constantly, which infuriated my Dad to no end, so to 'teach it a lesson' my Dad put him in a metal garbage can, put the lid on it and beat the metal can for an hour with a baseball bat to 'show the dog' how annoying unwanted noise can be, I was 4 years old at the time; he counted the miles on my Mom's car and if she went further than what he said she could drive in a certain day he took her car keys for however long he felt should be her punishment; after years of this sort of behavior my mom divorced him when all of us kids were older; my Dad remarried shortly thereafter and his new wife found out he was having an affair while they were newlyweds so she called the woman's husband to 'tattle' and tell this husband to keep an eye on his wife and make this affair stop. My Dad's mistress called him and told him what his new wife had done and my Dad FURIOUS that she had called the mistress's husband packed up ALL of his wife's belongings and Fed-ex'd over night to her mother's house and handed her a plane ticket back to her hometown and told her to get out of his house. It took the new wife 2 weeks of BEGGING his forgiveness to be let back in his house/to resume being married; when my Mother and I heard the Mel Gibson rants last summer we sort of laughed and thought, what every guy doesn't go berserk like that over something as little as Mel's girlfriend with a newborn baby was ASLEEP rather than awake to service him thus those vicious rants.

Those endless verbal tirades are a classic and tell tale sign of Narcissistic personality disorder and I would bet every cent I had that JS came back to the mansion late Tuesday night after being told that MS was just being kept on life support to be an organ donor and he went berserk and the loud music/noise was him going back and forth btwn yelling, crying, begging, and SCREAMING for RN to tell him what she did to Maxie (of which there was no right answer and the tirade and tying her up was him acting out his rage), and I agree with a PP that he probably tied her to a chair for this little tirade to command her full attention, naked no less for the ultimate humiliation. I think he might have strangled her, staged the hanging or just threw her off the balcony after she was all tied up and he made the noose.

Again, time will tell and I would like all the facts to come out for RN and for her family.

As for my Dad, he has never hurt me or my sisters, and I do love him and I accept him and understand why he is this way. His mother was an alcoholic who abandon him and his brother with their father and he grew up with no Mom and it just really messed him up. He is a good father, and he does the best he can as he doesn't know why he is this way (I would bet he doesn't even know he is what he is).

Off my soap box!

pferrin
07-31-2011, 10:26 PM
Nobody reported loud music to the cops.

thats correct I listened to police dispatch for the hours of 800 pm on the
12th til 3;30 am on the 13th no call about noise or music there.

the neighbors may have heard loud music ..but they didnt call police.

MizStery
07-31-2011, 10:28 PM
Living with a person like this for so long, like I did, I can spot it a mile away, my Dad has done some crazy stuff of which I will note a few; we had a German shepard that barked constantly, which infuriated my Dad to no end, so to 'teach it a lesson' my Dad put him in a metal garbage can, put the lid on it and beat the metal can for an hour with a baseball bat to 'show the dog' how annoying unwanted noise can be, I was 4 years old at the time; he counted the miles on my Mom's car and if she went further than what he said she could drive in a certain day he took her car keys for however long he felt should be her punishment; after years of this sort of behavior my mom divorced him when all of us kids were older; my Dad remarried shortly thereafter and his new wife found out he was having an affair while they were newlyweds so she called the woman's husband to 'tattle' and tell this husband to keep an eye on his wife and make this affair stop. My Dad's mistress called him and told him what his new wife had done and my Dad FURIOUS that she had called the mistress's husband





packed up ALL of his wife's belongings and
Fed-ex'd over night to her mother's house and handed her a plane ticket back to her hometown and told her to get out of his house. It took the new wife 2 weeks of BEGGING his forgiveness to be let back in his house/to resume being married; when my Mother and I heard the Mel Gibson rants last summer we sort of laughed and thought, what every guy doesn't go berserk like that
over something as little as Mel's girlfriend with a newborn baby was ASLEEP rather than awake to service him thus those vicious rants.

Those endless verbal tirades are a classic and tell tale sign of Narcissistic
personality disorder and I would bet every cent I had that JS came back to the mansion late Tuesday night after being told that MS was just being kept on life support to be an organ donor
and he went berserk and the loud music/noise was him going back and forth btwn yelling, crying, begging, and SCREAMING for RN to tell him what she did to Maxie (of which there was no right answer
and the tirade and tying her up was him acting out his rage), and I agree with a PP that he probably tied her to a chair for this little tirade to command her full attention, naked no less for the ultimate humiliation. I think he might have strangled her, staged the hanging or just threw her off the balcony after she was all tied up and he made the noose.

Again, time will tell and I would like all the facts to come out for RN and for
her family.

As for my Dad, he has never hurt me or my sisters, and I do love him and I accept him and understand why he is this way. His mother was an alcoholic who abandon him and his brother with their father and he grew up with no Mom and it just really messed him up. He is a good father, and he does the best he can as he doesn't know why he is this way (I would bet he doesn't
even know he is what he is).
Off my soap box!


You have such an amazing ability to bring this all to life. It all turns on a dime they can go from... fun & charming.....into raging and vicious. Thanks for sharing.

scorekeeper
07-31-2011, 10:49 PM
I can't remember if this was previously posted but it really shows some personal insight to JS (and thanks to Matty for her personal experiences (((Matty))).

http://coronado.patch.com/articles/shacknai-renovation-plans-drew-opponents-in-coronado-not-enemies

The homeowner lobbied hard, but even critics of his plans for the Spreckels mansion describe him as professional and gracious.

Jonah Shacknai was involved in a number of local land deals and made himself known among real estate agents and city officials

Before the council voted, Shacknai met with Tanaka at Café 1134. The mayor remembers the conversation as “cordial and friendly.”

After they discussed the mansion, Shacknai talked about his years as a congressional staffer, other historic homes and about “his pride and passion for the homes he had owned,” Tanaka recalled
He always came armed with his attorney and his architect, complete with expensive color binders and drawings, sparing no expense,” recalled Doug St. Denis, a commissioner who was very critical of Shacknai's plans for Spreckels.

“He had absolutely no respect for the historical architecture he became steward of,” she said

I have one question for JS....

Who died and made you God?

I also hope that LE thoroughly investigates the events surrounding RN's death. She deserves that and more.

Salem
07-31-2011, 11:00 PM
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Thanks,

Salem