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10-23-2004, 12:37 AM
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hummmmmmmmm not touching her children at all? never thought of that.

BTW, on Unsolved Mysteries or a show like that, didn't her "former friend" say a couple of days after the murder, she went in and Darlie was walking all over the carpet that was still soaked in blood. Talking about her stuff. Not mentioning the boys at all?? Is that true or not?

BTW, lots to read Jeana, TY.

Yes, that is true. She made a comment something to the effect of "look what a mess they made in here."

Something else that bothered me. They had a garage sale and the proceeds went to her defense fund. They sold the boys stuff at a garage sale.

Not only that, but after the house was emptied of all of their personal belongings, one of the prosecutors was looking around the house and went up into the attic. He found a box of photograhs and other items - of the boys. They didn't even bother to take the kids' pictures.

Also, before Darlie's trial, the family gave to the neighbors items from the house. Now some people think that she was trying to earn favor with them by giving them things so that they wouldn't be too hard on her during their testimony. Unfortunately for her, it didn't work.

The family likes to complain about the vide of the "silly string party," being prejudicial. What they don't advertise is the fact that they INVITED the media to that party at the gravesite in exchange for money. They wanted the media to pay for their out of town friends and relatives to be put up in hotels.

They will tell you that before that gravesite party, there was a tearful service and Darlie was a wreck. For any of you who have seen that video and the ones that followed, you may have noticed that Darlie is fair skinned. When they've shown videotape of her when she actually did cry, her face was red, blotchy and puffy (just like any of ours would be, right?). The videotape of the silly string party doesn't show any redness, no blotchy skin, no bloodshot eyes, no puffy face. Just a happy, smiling, hot pant wearing, gum smacking

izzyB
10-23-2004, 08:39 AM
i had a friend who suddenly lost two boys about 15 years ago, so at the time of the routier murders, this was still a relatively fresh loss for her. i remember her comment that 2 weeks after the loss, she would barely be able to leave her bed, let alone throw silly string on the graves.

for all i think of his involvement, at least darin looked uncomfortable during that little episode.

now i know we all grieve differently (a la lee peterson) but IMHO she was way too happy yelling, and parading around with the silly string.

cami
10-25-2004, 04:00 PM
i had a friend who suddenly lost two boys about 15 years ago, so at the time of the routier murders, this was still a relatively fresh loss for her. i remember her comment that 2 weeks after the loss, she would barely be able to leave her bed, let alone throw silly string on the graves.

for all i think of his involvement, at least darin looked uncomfortable during that little episode.

now i know we all grieve differently (a la lee peterson) but IMHO she was way too happy yelling, and parading around with the silly string.

Darlie will never live that silly string tape down. It's stuck to her like glue no matter how many times she tries to explain it away hey! And yes Darin did look uncomfortable, that struck me right away, his body language. That tapes means nothing to me, I don't hold her guilty because of it. The blood evidence tells the story of what happened and what didn't happen in that house that night.

Jeana (DP)
10-25-2004, 04:08 PM
Yup, the Campfire girls LOVE to tell the story of the jury watching that tape 8 times. I've always believed that they watched it so many times searching for anything in Darlie's face that says "I'm INNOCENT." It wasn't there. Darin did look appropriately freaked out by the whole thing, which is why I was surprised to come to the realization that he's a big fat liar. At first I did not think he was involved. We've seen videos of Darlie when she actually cried (of course she was in prison and crying for herself). However, it was easy to tell she was really crying and her face was red, puffy, runny. However, for me to believe that she cried just minutes before that tape was shot, I'd need to see some proof. She didn't have that "just cried" look about her and should have. Also, them saying that she was putting on a brave face so as to not scare the kids that were there is a bunch of crap. If your boys are murdered, died from a car accident, or how EVER they died, there is no way you'd be able to do that.

cami
10-26-2004, 01:03 PM
Yup, the Campfire girls LOVE to tell the story of the jury watching that tape 8 times. I've always believed that they watched it so many times searching for anything in Darlie's face that says "I'm INNOCENT." It wasn't there. Darin did look appropriately freaked out by the whole thing, which is why I was surprised to come to the realization that he's a big fat liar. At first I did not think he was involved. We've seen videos of Darlie when she actually cried (of course she was in prison and crying for herself). However, it was easy to tell she was really crying and her face was red, puffy, runny. However, for me to believe that she cried just minutes before that tape was shot, I'd need to see some proof. She didn't have that "just cried" look about her and should have. Also, them saying that she was putting on a brave face so as to not scare the kids that were there is a bunch of crap. If your boys are murdered, died from a car accident, or how EVER they died, there is no way you'd be able to do that.

ITA, she looks too jovial to me. I suggested maybe she popped a few phen fen that morning, LOL. She was playing to the cameras I'm sure. Her fifteen minutes of fame. I've always felt Darin was involved somehow. That hokey story of hers just didn't wash and his is even more ridiculous. He wakes up when a fragile glass breaks downstairs, yeah right.

Arielle
10-26-2004, 03:15 PM
Is there a link to where the video can be viewed? I'd like to refresh my memory of the whole thing.

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10-26-2004, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by blueclouds
hummmmmmmmm not touching her children at all? never thought of that.

BTW, on Unsolved Mysteries or a show like that, didn't her "former friend" say a couple of days after the murder, she went in and Darlie was walking all over the carpet that was still soaked in blood. Talking about her stuff. Not mentioning the boys at all?? Is that true or not?

BTW, lots to read Jeana, TY.

Yes, that is true. She made a comment something to the effect of "look what a mess they made in here."

Something else that bothered me. They had a garage sale and the proceeds went to her defense fund. They sold the boys stuff at a garage sale.

Not only that, but after the house was emptied of all of their personal belongings, one of the prosecutors was looking around the house and went up into the attic. He found a box of photograhs and other items - of the boys. They didn't even bother to take the kids' pictures.

Also, before Darlie's trial, the family gave to the neighbors items from the house. Now some people think that she was trying to earn favor with them by giving them things so that they wouldn't be too hard on her during their testimony. Unfortunately for her, it didn't work.

The family likes to complain about the vide of the "silly string party," being prejudicial. What they don't advertise is the fact that they INVITED the media to that party at the gravesite in exchange for money. They wanted the media to pay for their out of town friends and relatives to be put up in hotels.

They will tell you that before that gravesite party, there was a tearful service and Darlie was a wreck. For any of you who have seen that video and the ones that followed, you may have noticed that Darlie is fair skinned. When they've shown videotape of her when she actually did cry, her face was red, blotchy and puffy (just like any of ours would be, right?). The videotape of the silly string party doesn't show any redness, no blotchy skin, no bloodshot eyes, no puffy face. Just a happy, smiling, hot pant wearing, gum smacking

check this out, LOL http://www.fordarlieroutier.org/CompFriends.html

cami
10-26-2004, 03:53 PM
Is there a link to where the video can be viewed? I'd like to refresh my memory of the whole thing.


NOt to my knowledge. All the videos have been removed from the website.

Jeana (DP)
10-26-2004, 04:01 PM
check this out, LOL http://www.fordarlieroutier.org/CompFriends.html

Well that lady contradicts her entire family because they said she was crying hysterically just moments before the party. So, how she can "grieve" for one minute and flip a switch and turn it off is beyond me, but then again, I don't expect to be able to get inside the mind of a monster who would murder her boys in their sleep.

dasgal
10-26-2004, 06:35 PM
Arielle, I believe the original airing was on Fox New, local channel 4. It will be available there.

beesy
06-18-2005, 11:49 PM
Did anybody notice Darlie's perfect manicure on the tape? She had to have had them done that day or the day before. After the attacks, surgery and hospitalization, her nails would have looked terrible, yet they are perfect at the Silly String party. She's thinking about getting a manicure within days of her sons' murders?

Goody
06-19-2005, 03:29 PM
Did anybody notice Darlie's perfect manicure on the tape? She had to have had them done that day or the day before. After the attacks, surgery and hospitalization, her nails would have looked terrible, yet they are perfect at the Silly String party. She's thinking about getting a manicure within days of her sons' murders?
She had a family member notify the press that she would be at the cemetery that day to do the silly string party. Apparently one station paid for relatives to stay in a hotel for the funerals, contingent upon her giving them an exclusive. So the silly string party and the interview was her paying that debt or arrangement if you prefer. Yes, it is probably true that she had a manicure before the taping. It was said she had very short nails. I don't recall the video detail. Do you remember if her nails were long or short?

Dani_T
06-19-2005, 06:37 PM
She had a family member notify the press that she would be at the cemetery that day to do the silly string party. Apparently one station paid for relatives to stay in a hotel for the funerals, contingent upon her giving them an exclusive. So the silly string party and the interview was her paying that debt or arrangement if you prefer. Yes, it is probably true that she had a manicure before the taping. It was said she had very short nails. I don't recall the video detail. Do you remember if her nails were long or short?

Her nails are definitely very short in photos after the crime

Goody
06-19-2005, 07:23 PM
Her nails are definitely very short in photos after the crime
I was wondering if she had nails put on, too. I have not paid much attention to that detail before, but it struck me when it was mentioned here that her nails appeared to be manicured at the SSP.

O, and it seems like I remember something about them not being able to get any tissue from under her nails because they were too short to produce anything.

Dani_T
06-19-2005, 09:54 PM
I was wondering if she had nails put on, too. I have not paid much attention to that detail before, but it struck me when it was mentioned here that her nails appeared to be manicured at the SSP.

O, and it seems like I remember something about them not being able to get any tissue from under her nails because they were too short to produce anything.

I just had a look at the Silly String Video on 20/20 (via Just Darlie) and I couldn't see her hands at all, and hence no way to tell if they were manicured or not.

beesy
06-19-2005, 11:44 PM
I just had a look at the Silly String Video on 20/20 (via Just Darlie) and I couldn't see her hands at all, and hence no way to tell if they were manicured or not.
You can see her nails on the Silly String video they showed on Forensic Files on A&E a couple of weeks ago. She puts her head and arm on I think its Dana's shoulder for a second and you can see Darlie's nails on that hand.They are most likely acrylic and are painted a burgundy color.
I don't know if the 20/20 video shows that part of the video or not, but it was on that episode of Forensic Files

Goody
06-20-2005, 09:20 PM
You can see her nails on the Silly String video they showed on Forensic Files on A&E a couple of weeks ago. She puts her head and arm on I think its Dana's shoulder for a second and you can see Darlie's nails on that hand.They are most likely acrylic and are painted a burgundy color.
I don't know if the 20/20 video shows that part of the video or not, but it was on that episode of Forensic Files
That is an interesting little detail you found there, Beesy. Bravo. I had never noticed her nails except that they were short. So she went out and had a manicure plus after the funeral, probably for her TV debut. I talked to someone once who had a friend in Texas who spotted her out and about in the two weeks after the murders and before her arrest, and they said she was out to dinner in a nice restaurant with a large group and she was drinking and raising toasts and laughing, just having a good time. It is hard to understand someone being that detached, but apparently she was.

beesy
06-25-2005, 01:18 AM
. I talked to someone once who had a friend in Texas who spotted her out and about in the two weeks after the murders and before her arrest, and they said she was out to dinner in a nice restaurant with a large group and she was drinking and raising toasts and laughing, just having a good time. It is hard to understand someone being that detached, but apparently she was. Ugh! that woman disgusts me! I also lost a son Goody and I don't remember being concerned with my looks or having fun dining out. I have 2 other children and we did go to a Halloween party about 3 weeks after he died. I did it for them only. I enjoyed watching them, but could only put on a happy face for about 2 hours. What annoyed me is one of my mother's friends came over to me and said she was glad to see me out! It seems today people don't want you to "mourn". You're supposed to just bounce right back after the initial shock. I hardly think that was Darlie's problem though. She certainly wasn't drinking and toasting so what was left of her family could still have a nice dinner out! She was doing that for Darlie. I went out so my other 2 kids could still have a fun Halloween. The more I hear, the more I want push the plungers myself!

SallyLu
06-26-2005, 10:37 PM
Like you Beesy I lost my youngest son 7 years ago. I remember having to be dressed as I couldn't even do it myself. I didn't want to, didn't know how (shock factor) and had to wear the same clothes I was wearing when my son was killed. The days blended into each other and I had to go on (like you) for my other children. I wasn't very good at it though - but that's a whole other story.

Anyway, a couple of things I'd like to mention.

One, I wanted to take our dogs to the funeral. Apparently, I dispatched someone to go into town for new collars and leads.

Secondly, 2 weeks after my son's death I saw this strange woman in the mirror - it was me - I'd aged 20 years.

A thing about grieving is that we all do it in different ways. Maybe the silly string and the nails are just that?

I'd like to think that Darli as a mother didn't kill her children. A mother nurtures - doesn't kill for profit.

beesy
06-27-2005, 12:27 AM
Like you Beesy I lost my youngest son 7 years ago. I remember having to be dressed as I couldn't even do it myself. I didn't want to, didn't know how (shock factor) and had to wear the same clothes I was wearing when my son was killed. The days blended into each other and I had to go on (like you) for my other children. I wasn't very good at it though - but that's a whole other story.

Anyway, a couple of things I'd like to mention.

One, I wanted to take our dogs to the funeral. Apparently, I dispatched someone to go into town for new collars and leads.

Secondly, 2 weeks after my son's death I saw this strange woman in the mirror - it was me - I'd aged 20 years.

A thing about grieving is that we all do it in different ways. Maybe the silly string and the nails are just that?

I'd like to think that Darli as a mother didn't kill her children. A mother nurtures - doesn't kill for profit. Actually that's what I used to say about this case. I lost a very close friend in 1987 and some friends and I did some strange things. Her birthday was 7 days after she died and several of us had a beer party on her grave. However, we were sitting down, not whooping it up. Simply toasting her. She was a big drinker, by the way, a party girl, but a sweetie. We didn't tell anybody else because it sounds a little weird I know, but she didn't mind.
So when I heard about this Darlie case and saw The Silly String Party, I even said "well there needs to be other evidence because people grieve in different ways". I love true crime and I bought 4 books about the case. She nearly snowed me even then too, for the same reasons. A mother doing this? When my son died in '03 I unfortunately (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=unfortunately) learned what it feels like to lose a child. I got into her case again for some reason and saw it this time from a mother's eyes. When my son died, I didn't even remember how I got home from the hospital. I went out to the driveway and there were no cars there. Where were they? I called my parents and found out a friend had driven me and my husband home and my husband's car was still at work and my car was at the hospital. The things you and I did were for our sons, not for ourselves. You wanted the dogs there for him, right? Would you have had your nails done? No, you couldn't even dress yourself. You ended up wearing the same clothes. I aged also, didn't care how I looked. Did Darlie?
I guess my point is this: Darlie killed her 2 boys and showed no remorse until her butt got arrested. She nor her supporters have ever mentioned anything like you did, unable to dress yourself or sending someone out for the dogs, or forgetting where the cars are. The only things she forgets are the things that happened during the attack. She was always alert and could answer simple questions and her vitals were always normal. Remember that they invited a news crew to film the party. Like I said, my friends and I were a little embarrassed (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=embarrassed) drinking beer on our friend's fresh grave. It was not a fun party either. Darlie had fun and wanted everybody else to know that! They say the easiest answer is usually the right one and in this case it's that Darlie did it

Goody
07-02-2005, 12:33 AM
Ugh! that woman disgusts me! I also lost a son Goody and I don't remember being concerned with my looks or having fun dining out. I have 2 other children and we did go to a Halloween party about 3 weeks after he died. I did it for them only. I enjoyed watching them, but could only put on a happy face for about 2 hours. What annoyed me is one of my mother's friends came over to me and said she was glad to see me out! It seems today people don't want you to "mourn". You're supposed to just bounce right back after the initial shock. I hardly think that was Darlie's problem though. She certainly wasn't drinking and toasting so what was left of her family could still have a nice dinner out! She was doing that for Darlie. I went out so my other 2 kids could still have a fun Halloween. The more I hear, the more I want push the plungers myself!
My son was hit by a car when he was six and I was much like you describe. I went to functions and family get-togethers, etc for the other members of the family, but usually sat in a corner in a fog. I even tried drinking for awhile but could never get drunk. Ran into an old friend who said the "sparkle" was gone. Darlie was definitely detached, and I think adjusted in advance to the loss of the children. That is one of the things that confuses me so about this case. There isn't enough evidence to show that it was preplanned, but both she and Darin bounced back way too soon for it to be just different grieving processes. They would have had to have turned on a dime to get that accepting that soon. I guess we are supposed to believe that they just skipped over denial and anger and went right to acceptance, ready to celebrate a lives well lived for the heavenly crossovers. Nobody makes that transition, not the coldest among us. People need time to adjust. So when did they do their adjusting?

SallyLu
07-03-2005, 12:06 AM
A question to Beesy and Goody. Did you crash and burn many times? I did. I know this sounds personal but (to me) it's related to Darlie and her reactions.

Goody
07-04-2005, 10:31 PM
A question to Beesy and Goody. Did you crash and burn many times? I did. I know this sounds personal but (to me) it's related to Darlie and her reactions.
I don't know if I crashed and burned. I can tell you it was the deepest pain I have EVER felt in my life. I swear it went all the way thru my soul. Mostly, I was in such a deep depression without anyone to talk to so I internalized most of it. I think what kept me sane was my three year old. I could not bail out on her.

I don't understand Darlie's reaction at all. Even if I had killed my son in a moment of anger or rage, I think I would have been so devastated I just might have gone catatonic (sp?) . If my child had been brutally murdered by strangers in my home, I think I would not have been able to communicate with people, let alone pretend everything was hunky-dorey and dance around the cemetery with silly string, no matter who I was doing it for.

And that image of Darlie and Darin taking the toys off of the dying wreaths left in their front yard by well wishers and tossing them back and forth in a mock basketball game is even more mindblowing than the silly string dance. How could either of them been so insensitive and still claim they were grieving?

I believe it was Dana and Darin even less because unlike Darlie and Darin, Dana really was grieving and devastated by the murders. She would have never been able to do such a thing.

Personally, I think they had just made some kind of decision about shopping their story and they were celebrating the coming of that brass ring they were so sure was headed their way. Darlie was arrested that night, Darin and Darlie Kee are said to have signed a contract with an agent two days later. All coincidence? You got me, but it sure makes one pause, doesn't it?

Mary456
07-05-2005, 12:36 AM
And that image of Darlie and Darin taking the toys off of the dying wreaths left in their front yard by well wishers and tossing them back and forth in a mock basketball game is even more mindblowing than the silly string dance.

Good grief, I'd forgotten about that disgusting show they put on. You're right, it's even more shocking than the silly string party. Nelda Watts saw Darlie & Darin throwing teddy bears back and forth; Darlie would cheer when Darin lobbed it in the back of the Pathfinder. Then he took a flag off one of the wreaths, climbed into the fountain & stuck it in the top. This was 12 days after their sons were murdered...sickos.

Ya know what's funny? On cross exam, the defense never suggested that Watts mistook Dana for Darlie. They couldn't use that angle, because Nelda had lived across the street from the Routiers for 3 years & she darn well knew what Darlie looked like. (Besides, Darlie had very blonde hair, and Dana was a brunette).

It was definitely Darlie whooping it up with Darin. Absolutely inexplicable behavior for two "loving" parents, but it happened nonetheless.

beesy
07-05-2005, 03:06 AM
My son was hit by a car when he was six and I was much like you describe. I went to functions and family get-togethers, etc for the other members of the family, but usually sat in a corner in a fog. I even tried drinking for awhile but could never get drunk. Ran into an old friend who said the "sparkle" was gone. Darlie was definitely detached, and I think adjusted in advance to the loss of the children. That is one of the things that confuses me so about this case. There isn't enough evidence to show that it was preplanned, but both she and Darin bounced back way too soon for it to be just different grieving processes. They would have had to have turned on a dime to get that accepting that soon. I guess we are supposed to believe that they just skipped over denial and anger and went right to acceptance, ready to celebrate a lives well lived for the heavenly crossovers. Nobody makes that transition, not the coldest among us. People need time to adjust. So when did they do their adjusting? I don't know Goody, I honestly don't. The first week my husband and I took turns "cocooning". If he was having a really bad day or portion of the day, he'd
curl up in a ball upstairs and not talk to anybody, then the next day, I'd do it. Everybody wants to help, but how many times can you hear "I'm so sorry" and get hugs from near strangers before you break down? When you mentioned your friend saying the "sparkle" was gone, it dawned on me that Darlie never lost hers that we saw. She looks sort of sad in the pix at the police station, sad for herself.
She can say time and time again that didn't kill her babies, but her face didn't show it. It wasn't the lack of tears, it was the lack of shock. Where was her vacant look that the rest of us had? Which does bring up the pre-planning. Hey for all we know, they often talked about it in jest, more money for them and more time to party and then Darlie decided to do it. Maybe they were just happy the boys were gone. Who knows? Another thing, she called them babies all the time. Was this a detatchment from the actual boys she killed? She only liked them as babies? Hateful beast

beesy
07-05-2005, 03:12 AM
Good grief, I'd forgotten about that disgusting show they put on. You're right, it's even more shocking than the silly string party. Nelda Watts saw Darlie & Darin throwing teddy bears back and forth; Darlie would cheer when Darin lobbed it in the back of the Pathfinder. Then he took a flag off one of the wreaths, climbed into the fountain & stuck it in the top. This was 12 days after their sons were murdered...sickos.

Ya know what's funny? On cross exam, the defense never suggested that Watts mistook Dana for Darlie. They couldn't use that angle, because Nelda had lived across the street from the Routiers for 3 years & she darn well knew what Darlie looked like. (Besides, Darlie had very blonde hair, and Dana was a brunette).

It was definitely Darlie whooping it up with Darin. Absolutely inexplicable behavior for two "loving" parents, but it happened nonetheless. I know Miss Mary, just sickening. Hadn't noticed the defense passed on that line of questioning very good call for them. Yes, she did have very blond hair, bleached nearly white and it was pretty darn big.

Goody
07-05-2005, 01:27 PM
Ya know what's funny? On cross exam, the defense never suggested that Watts mistook Dana for Darlie. They couldn't use that angle, because Nelda had lived across the street from the Routiers for 3 years & she darn well knew what Darlie looked like. .
It didn't come up until the punishment phase and then not until Darin testified that it was Dana, not Darlie. By then, other family members had already testifed as had Nelda Watts, so it couldn't be challenged. At least that is what I have understood.


(Besides, Darlie had very blonde hair, and Dana was a brunette).

It was definitely Darlie whooping it up with Darin. Absolutely inexplicable behavior for two "loving" parents, but it happened nonetheless.
I agree. I definitely think it was Darlie and Darin out there whooping it up, but I thought Dana had bleached her hair, too. She had blonde hair on the Leeza Show. The younger sister had red hair at the trial, according to authors, but I don't recall anyone ever saying that Dana was a brunette. Even Darlie Kee has blonde hair, albeit probably from a bottle which is where most blondes get it.

One other point....that image of Darlie and Darin whooping it up in the front yard shows Darin displaying his emotions, too. I don't know why anyone thinks he was any more emotional about the loss as Darlie was just becasuse he shed a few tears at appropriate moments. There are several instances where he shows himself to be just as lacking in the grief process as she was. I think he was just as detached and that the truth about him and his true invovlement in this case comes out before Darlie dies.

cami
07-05-2005, 01:32 PM
Actually that's what I used to say about this case. I lost a very close friend in 1987 and some friends and I did some strange things. Her birthday was 7 days after she died and several of us had a beer party on her grave. However, we were sitting down, not whooping it up. Simply toasting her. She was a big drinker, by the way, a party girl, but a sweetie. We didn't tell anybody else because it sounds a little weird I know, but she didn't mind.

Oh gosh Beasy when I lost a good friend in the late 70's his wife and I not only drank a beer with him, we sat on his coffin, at the viewing to do it. Well we tried anyway, we wanted to include him. There was only she and I there at the time and he wouldn't have minded either. His two favourite girls together toasting him one last time.

beesy
07-05-2005, 05:21 PM
Oh gosh Beasy when I lost a good friend in the late 70's his wife and I not only drank a beer with him, we sat on his coffin, at the viewing to do it. Well we tried anyway, we wanted to include him. There was only she and I there at the time and he wouldn't have minded either. His two favourite girls together toasting him one last time.
Oh cami, that's so sweet. We were only 18, nearly 19, not of legal age to drink. Plus being in a small upright Southern(7,000) town made it seem odd. Did you get to sit on the casket? We sat right on her grave and toasted her and cried and shared stories, and cried some more. She'd have loved it. Thanks so much for sharing that!

AussieAussie
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
I have just started reading about this case. I can't believe a mother could do what Darlie obviously did!

We lost our first 2 sons and I can tell you that we certainly weren't celebrating anything in those first two weeks. Our family probably celebrated the odd days that I actually got myself dressed in the morning! At Christmas our first year we went out to the cemetery and had a beer together (hubby and I) but I can assure you there were no smiles on our faces!

I guarantee that 2 weeks after the death of our sons I couldn't give 2 hoots about anyone else and sure wouldn't have been holding a grave side party to assist anyone else cope with their deaths!

We have 2 beautiful sons here on earth now, one biological and the cutie in my sig tag we adopted from Korea last year :)

Jayne

Mary456
07-10-2005, 01:07 AM
I have just started reading about this case. I can't believe a mother could do what Darlie obviously did!

We lost our first 2 sons and I can tell you that we certainly weren't celebrating anything in those first two weeks. Our family probably celebrated the odd days that I actually got myself dressed in the morning! At Christmas our first year we went out to the cemetery and had a beer together (hubby and I) but I can assure you there were no smiles on our faces!

I guarantee that 2 weeks after the death of our sons I couldn't give 2 hoots about anyone else and sure wouldn't have been holding a grave side party to assist anyone else cope with their deaths!

We have 2 beautiful sons here on earth now, one biological and the cutie in my sig tag we adopted from Korea last year :)

Jayne

Ahhh, Jayne, what a beautiful baby. Isn't it a pity that a mother like Darlie, who had it all, three beautiful sons, could sacrifice them for her own selfish needs?

Have a beer on me, honey...you deserve it!

AussieAussie
07-10-2005, 01:28 AM
Ahhh, Jayne, what a beautiful baby. Isn't it a pity that a mother like Darlie, who had it all, three beautiful sons, could sacrifice them for her own selfish needs?

Have a beer on me, honey...you deserve it!
Thanks Mary ;) I will have a champagne instead though, tastes have changed as I have got older lol

It is people like Darlie that made life so difficult for me while we were trying to have another baby. In the end it took 10 years and lots of heartache and yet there are people like Darlie, Diane Downs, Susan Smith etc etc that see it as ok to throw away their babies. Too sad.

As we were going through the process to adopt and were studied by the govt to make sure we would be good parents I couldn't help but think it is so wrong when animals like Darlie can keep having babies with no drama!

Anyway we couldn't be happier with our lot in life now and have two very very special boys!

Take care
Jayne

beesy
07-10-2005, 07:05 PM
If anyone would like to see a picture of Danny, our son we lost from SIDS http://www.sidsfamilies.com/index.php?sec=nursery3&id=1559

Dani_T
07-10-2005, 07:14 PM
If anyone would like to see a picture of Danny, our son we lost from SIDS http://www.sidsfamilies.com/index.php?sec=nursery3&id=1559

He's beautiful Beesy. I'm so sorry for your loss :(

beesy
07-10-2005, 08:50 PM
He's beautiful Beesy. I'm so sorry for your loss :(
Thank you Dani. It's nice to be able to show him off. That's such a wonderful site. You should pass it along to anyone who has a SIDS baby. :angel: There have been so many angels added since I've added Danny, its so sad.

Mary456
07-10-2005, 11:39 PM
[color=blue]It didn't come up until the punishment phase and then not until Darin testified that it was Dana, not Darlie. By then, other family members had already testifed as had Nelda Watts, so it couldn't be challenged. At least that is what I have understood. [/color

Goody, if I'm wrong, please sock it to me, but Nelda Watts was never brought up in Darin's trial testimony, nor in his testimony in the punishment phase.

If Darin claimed it was Dana playing toss the teddy bear with him, he said it after the trial, maybe on one of the talk shows. But he sure didn't say it when it counted, during the trial.

beesy
07-11-2005, 12:04 AM
I agree. I definitely think it was Darlie and Darin out there whooping it up, but I thought Dana had bleached her hair, too. She had blonde hair on the Leeza Show. The younger sister had red hair at the trial, according to authors, but I don't recall anyone ever saying that Dana was a brunette. Even Darlie Kee has blonde hair, albeit probably from a bottle which is where most blondes get it.

Dana has light brown hair in the Silly String Video. It was colored blond on the Leeza shows. Not bleached white like Darlies aaack

accordn2me
07-11-2005, 01:06 AM
If anyone would like to see a picture of Danny, our son we lost from SIDS http://www.sidsfamilies.com/index.php?sec=nursery3&id=1559
Beesy,

My deepest sympathy to you and your husband. Danny was precious. The card said he was 4 lbs. 7 oz. Looking at the picture, I would have guessed he was heavier. Absolutely adorable!

beesy
07-11-2005, 02:33 AM
Beesy,

My deepest sympathy to you and your husband. Danny was precious. The card said he was 4 lbs. 7 oz. Looking at the picture, I would have guessed he was heavier. Absolutely adorable! thank you

AussieAussie
07-11-2005, 03:10 AM
thank you
Beesy your Daniel is so precious! One of my angel sons was also named Daniel :) If you would like to meet them we have a website http://preciousboys.tripod.com/boys.html

I haven't updated any of the site in so long, will have to get back in and update at least our 2 living sons pages :)

Take care
Jayne

cami
07-11-2005, 11:04 AM
I have just started reading about this case. I can't believe a mother could do what Darlie obviously did!

We lost our first 2 sons and I can tell you that we certainly weren't celebrating anything in those first two weeks. Our family probably celebrated the odd days that I actually got myself dressed in the morning! At Christmas our first year we went out to the cemetery and had a beer together (hubby and I) but I can assure you there were no smiles on our faces!

I guarantee that 2 weeks after the death of our sons I couldn't give 2 hoots about anyone else and sure wouldn't have been holding a grave side party to assist anyone else cope with their deaths!

We have 2 beautiful sons here on earth now, one biological and the cutie in my sig tag we adopted from Korea last year :)

Jayne

Jayne, your baby is gorgeous.

cami
07-11-2005, 11:07 AM
If anyone would like to see a picture of Danny, our son we lost from SIDS http://www.sidsfamilies.com/index.php?sec=nursery3&id=1559

I am so sorry to hear of your loss Beasy. No parent should have to go through the loss of their baby. It just breaks my heart. He was a cutie.

Goody
07-12-2005, 02:03 PM
Beesy your Daniel is so precious! One of my angel sons was also named Daniel :) If you would like to meet them we have a website http://preciousboys.tripod.com/boys.html

I haven't updated any of the site in so long, will have to get back in and update at least our 2 living sons pages :)

Take care
Jayne
Sad stories, Jayne, but glad to see you have adopted so your Patrick will have a sibling. I have found in life that most things happen the way they are supposed to for reasons usually unknown, but somehow in the end it all seems to work out. Bless you and your children.