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Apples2Apples
09-09-2011, 05:25 PM
Anyone know anything about this?

Name--David Miller Height--5'10 Weight 170lbs Hair-dark Wears Glasses
Date Missing 9/4/11 Last seen in Las Vegas
Drives a light green Hyundai Elantra NV License Plate 264 UGV
If you have info--call 702-580-4251 or 702-301-3456

I was just sent an email asking to please meet at the LDS Institute Building in St. George, Utah at 4PM MST to assist in the search. No other information was given.

cocomod
09-09-2011, 05:53 PM
I have not heard anything about this; and nothing is listed in MSM. Maybe if you go to the meeting, you should mention that his disappearance needs to be listed in the paper. See if you can get the media involved.

Apples2Apples
09-09-2011, 08:32 PM
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to assist in the search today. However, I have family contact info. Let me see if I can find out anymore information.

Apples2Apples
09-09-2011, 08:41 PM
I found this information on Facebook. David Miller was last seen 9/4/11. He is believed to be in the area between Las Vegas and Southern Utah (as far north possibly as Cedar City).

Dearest Friends,

Our hearts are grateful for all who are helping us in our search for our son, David. Our latest direction is that David could be somewhere between Las Vegas and Cedar City. We feel impressed that we need to find him right away.

We don't know for sure but feel the area between St George and Hurricane and perhaps as far north as Cedar City might be the most likely area to find him. His car is a light green Hyundai Elantra (see the attached photos below) and it will be the key to locating him. Most likely he will be off of the main highways and roads. We think he would seek a place of solitude away from any people. He would probably not hike much away from a car accessible road but could be in an area that is not readily visible.

There are several people planning to look for him and his car throughout Southern Utah tomorrow. We have been with limited phone access and bandwidth today so we are just responding to some of you who have offered to help. For those that are able, it would be helpful to have you travel to Southern Utah tomorrow to help with the search. If any of you have friends or relatives living between Las Vegas and Cedar City, will you please forward the attached photos below and ask them to use their own networking to get other people looking for David and his car.

Chris Jensen and Bill Karren are already in Southern Utah and others are on their way tomorrow by car, plane and helicopter. If you are able to travel and help with the search tomorrow, please contact Chris (702-499-5320) and Bill (702-372-3378) and we will ask them to organize the ground search efforts.

We thank you for anything you can do to help with this search. David is a wonderful man who is blessed to have your support.

Michelle and I are making our way back to Las Vegas and then Southern Utah. We may not have phone access for some of the day tomorrow but please leave us a message when needed.

Words are inadequate to express our love and thanks,

Kevin Miller & Michelle

summer_breeze
09-12-2011, 06:37 AM
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/129624168.html

By Blake McCoy
CREATED SEP. 11, 2011


Henderson, NV (KTNV) -- The car of a missing Las Vegas man was discovered in the parking lot of the Galleria Mall Saturday.

swjaxon
09-12-2011, 04:15 PM
Las Vegas Man Missing for Over a Week (http://www.8newsnow.com/story/15442923/las-vegas-man-missing-for-over-a-week)

webrocket
09-12-2011, 05:22 PM
this one sounds eerily familiar.

ETA: I used the expression eerily before I noticed that kjliss used the same term in the Steven Koecher thread.

KivaSupporter
09-12-2011, 06:06 PM
“They have found his car in Henderson…the latest I have is that there are witnesses that said a man got out of the car and rode off on a bicycle….if I get any other info I will share it with you. The Henderson police have taken over and are processing the car to see what eveidence they can gather. Michelle and Kevin are making their way back home.”

http://www.lasvegasldsneighbor.com/2011/09/missing-person-david-miller-last-seen-942011-in-las-vegas/

raeann
09-12-2011, 06:18 PM
There are literally many dozens of businesses in the immediate area that should have some surveillance no matter WHAT direction the bike left the parking area. The Sunset Station resort hotel/casino is just across the main street (Sunset) just south of the mall. There are businesses in EVERY direction leaving that lot.....hopefully LE will get some good video from at least a few of them showing the bike leaving.

jmo

liz b.
09-12-2011, 06:24 PM
Hopefully the video survellance at the mall parking lot will tell us something...Hopefully. MOO

ETA : I posted before I read about the man on the bike... it doesn't cast much light on things. I hope the camera has a high resolution...

swjaxon
09-12-2011, 06:31 PM
His car was found here (http://bit.ly/pRYzGg). Same side of the street as Sunset Station. There are tons of businesses in the area.

webrocket
09-12-2011, 06:31 PM
“They have found his car in Henderson…the latest I have is that there are witnesses that said a man got out of the car and rode off on a bicycle….if I get any other info I will share it with you. The Henderson police have taken over and are processing the car to see what eveidence they can gather. Michelle and Kevin are making their way back home.”

http://www.lasvegasldsneighbor.com/2011/09/missing-person-david-miller-last-seen-942011-in-las-vegas/

the plot thickens.

any wonder why I had my doubts about Steven Koecher's disappearance?

raeann
09-12-2011, 07:13 PM
His car was found here (http://bit.ly/pRYzGg). Same side of the street as Sunset Station. There are tons of businesses in the area.

Is the location marked??? Or could you describe where it was exactly? If it was on the Sunset Station side, that's not technically AT the Galleria Mall like some of the articles state. It is a matter of a few hundred yards at most, but might make a difference in what people in the area remember from the day it was left if the articles were more specific! IF it was him who left on the bike, it really is just a few miles south to get out of the city and into the foothills, and not a bad bike ride at all. However, if that was the planned destination, there would have been much easier and better places to leave the car to the south of there also.

jmo

swjaxon
09-12-2011, 07:35 PM
Is the location marked??? Or could you describe where it was exactly? If it was on the Sunset Station side, that's not technically AT the Galleria Mall like some of the articles state. It is a matter of a few hundred yards at most, but might make a difference in what people in the area remember from the day it was left if the articles were more specific! IF it was him who left on the bike, it really is just a few miles south to get out of the city and into the foothills, and not a bad bike ride at all. However, if that was the planned destination, there would have been much easier and better places to leave the car to the south of there also.

jmo

Yes, the article is incorrect (the one I wrote posted above says "near" the mall). It was not found at the mall, it was found at the Jared Jewelers parking lot, which is close to the mall and on the opposite side of the street.

If you zoom in (http://bit.ly/oTWwMz), you can see the white building is the jeweler. They do not have on-street access, so he would have had to ride through the parking lot somehow to get out to the street.

ETA: I drove by the jeweler Saturday after visiting the mall and noticed there's a fence up in the grassy area because of construction. So he had to ride back around the lot to get to the street.

raeann
09-12-2011, 07:47 PM
Interesting.....I am quite familiar with the area, and am trying to think of the options that might make someone want to decide to park in that particular spot and then ride off on a bike. However, the various possibilities depend upon whether it was actually DM who parked it there, or someone who needed the bike to get back to another location where they left their own vehicle. Has anyone who knows DM identified him as the rider yet?

jmoo

webrocket
09-12-2011, 07:51 PM
a person wanting to get away would park his car and ride off on a bike.

vehicles are highly traceable, bicycles are not.

swjaxon
09-12-2011, 08:14 PM
Interesting.....I am quite familiar with the area, and am trying to think of the options that might make someone want to decide to park in that particular spot and then ride off on a bike. However, the various possibilities depend upon whether it was actually DM who parked it there, or someone who needed the bike to get back to another location where they left their own vehicle. Has anyone who knows DM identified him as the rider yet?

jmoo

Indeed. If you get back toward Marks Street or Gibson and head south, you get into some sparse desert areas pretty quickly.

webrocket
09-12-2011, 08:49 PM
I guess this is my question - if it turns out Miller was on the bicycle and there is no evidence of a crime, what more is there for LV police to do? would it even be a police matter actually, beyond having a filed missing person's report?

Vegas is a favored place for people to disappear from, to the point it is virtually a magnet for such types.

swjaxon
09-12-2011, 08:51 PM
I guess this is my question - if it turns out Miller was on the bicycle and there is no evidence of a crime, what more is there for LV police to do? would it even be a police matter actually, beyond having a filed missing person's report?

If he walked away on his own free will, police's only job would be to verify he is alive and well. If he wants to stay away, the case will be closed.

laytonian
09-12-2011, 09:06 PM
There are literally many dozens of businesses in the immediate area that should have some surveillance no matter WHAT direction the bike left the parking area. The Sunset Station resort hotel/casino is just across the main street (Sunset) just south of the mall. There are businesses in EVERY direction leaving that lot.....hopefully LE will get some good video from at least a few of them showing the bike leaving.

jmo

True....but how long do they keep the images?

Casinos must keep them for a minimum of 7 days (per a WSer who works for the biggest gaming company in Vegas); other companies use them to solve known break-ins and other crimes....usually within 48-72 hours.

His car was there for a week after he was reported missing.

webrocket
09-12-2011, 09:10 PM
If he walked away on his own free will, police's only job would be to verify he is alive and well. If he wants to stay away, the case will be closed.

except when family insists "he'd never walk away so he must have been a victim of a crime".

swjaxon
09-12-2011, 09:14 PM
except when family insists "he'd never walk away so he must have been a victim of a crime".

That's not the case here. The family readily admits that he may have walked away.

ETA: The way police investigate a case doesn't change based on a family's opinion. If they find him alive and well and he wants to stay away, the case is closed.

raeann
09-12-2011, 09:27 PM
Live webcam link for just to the south/southeast of area.....doesn't show ground level however, as it is a weather link camera...

fixed link.....go to Findley Cadillac webcam (Henderson) from the list at the link below

http://www.lasvegaswebcams.com/

Fairy1
09-12-2011, 09:28 PM
True....but how long do they keep the images?

Casinos must keep them for a minimum of 7 days (per a WSer who works for the biggest gaming company in Vegas); other companies use them to solve known break-ins and other crimes....usually within 48-72 hours.

His car was there for a week after he was reported missing.

I think it probably varies. I believe it would be worth LE's time to ask around to see if any of businesses have coverage that goes back far enough - at least to establish whether it was actually David who parked the car. I'm sure many here will understand why I don't believe LE will make that effort.

There was a case a couple of years ago where a wife went missing (Missouri, I think?) after a shopping trip to Walmart, where her vehicle was located. The surveillance video revealed a male parking the car there and riding away on a bike. Turns out it was her husband, who was later arrested and charged with her murder.

laytonian
09-12-2011, 09:30 PM
a person wanting to get away would park his car and ride off on a bike.

vehicles are highly traceable, bicycles are not.

Bicycles have serial numbers, colors, and models. If he was known to have had a bicycle, the description of it should be publicized.

laytonian
09-12-2011, 09:38 PM
I think it probably varies. I believe it would be worth LE's time to ask around to see if any of businesses have coverage that goes back far enough - at least to establish whether it was actually David who parked the car. I'm sure many here will understand why I don't believe LE will make that effort.

There was a case a couple of years ago where a wife went missing (Missouri, I think?) after a shopping trip to Walmart, where her vehicle was located. The surveillance video revealed a male parking the car there and riding away on a bike. Turns out it was her husband, who was later arrested and charged with her murder.

I remember that one.

The family believes LVMPD is processing the car; I hope they're right. I have no confidence in Henderson PD.

laytonian
09-12-2011, 09:39 PM
Live webcam link for just to the south/southeast of area.....doesn't show ground level however, as it is a weather link camera...

fixed link.....go to Findley Cadillac webcam (Henderson) from the list at the link below

http://www.lasvegaswebcams.com/

But do they have clear close-ups of what happened on Sep 4th? (or earlier ... because we don't know exactly when David Miller disappeared).

laytonian
09-12-2011, 09:40 PM
except when family insists "he'd never walk away so he must have been a victim of a crime".

They'd still tell the family if he'd been located. Just not anything else.

Remember Erick Wales?
Nicholas Francisco?

laytonian
09-12-2011, 09:42 PM
I guess this is my question - if it turns out Miller was on the bicycle and there is no evidence of a crime, what more is there for LV police to do? would it even be a police matter actually, beyond having a filed missing person's report?

Vegas is a favored place for people to disappear from, to the point it is virtually a magnet for such types.

David Miller was a (North) Las Vegas resident. Not much of a magnet issue to disappear a few miles from home.

raeann
09-12-2011, 09:44 PM
But do they have clear close-ups of what happened on Sep 4th? (or earlier ... because we don't know exactly when David Miller disappeared).

OH....nooo....I'm sure they don't.....I was just posting that as a reference to show how close the area is to the hills....where lots of people do go to ride bikes/hike/ etc. but they wouldn't normally park at that lot in order to start their trek for any reason that I can come up with....

jmo

Fairy1
09-12-2011, 09:57 PM
It would be helpful to know if he was a regular cyclist. Even though I think that would be a weird place to park for a bike ride.

laytonian
09-12-2011, 10:05 PM
OH....nooo....I'm sure they don't.....I was just posting that as a reference to show how close the area is to the hills....where lots of people do go to ride bikes/hike/ etc. but they wouldn't normally park at that lot in order to start their trek for any reason that I can come up with....

jmo

It doesn't make sense, at all.

Here's a satellite view, with the location marked: http://g.co/maps/wkgsb

A couple of things: one really would have to ride quite away, to get out of town. On that end of the valley, the highway goes along subdivisions to the south until near Boulder City.

Also: I know the car was parked closer to Jared Jewelry, but I think the focus should be next door: In N Out Burger. Young guys get hungry, and live on fast food. They'd have a cam for sure, but we don't know how long the images would be kept. I hope LE checked, because he may have gone there before parking the car next door/nearby.

laytonian
09-12-2011, 10:07 PM
It would be helpful to know if he was a regular cyclist. Even though I think that would be a weird place to park for a bike ride.

I know -- and the satellite view shows quite a ways before you get to open space: http://g.co/maps/wkgsb

A bike ride to me, sounds like he wasn't planning to go far.
I wonder if there were car payments, and if they were current?
(That was always a question in the other case.)

Fairy1
09-12-2011, 10:18 PM
I guess I missed this, but did I read here that David lives in North Las Vegas? That's quite a ways from where his car was found.

Why did his family assume he had traveled to Southern Utah?

webrocket
09-12-2011, 10:18 PM
They'd still tell the family if he'd been located. Just not anything else.

Remember Erick Wales?
Nicholas Francisco?

they were found. Wales was spotted in Mexico(?) and Francisco was found in CA after he changed his name.

before one even gets to that point in time if it is determined he rode off on his own bike, then personally I think it would not be a LE issue any more. a serious cyclist would not park their car in location like that and ride off in the city.

I wonder what he was leaving behind or running away from?

fridaybaker
09-12-2011, 11:10 PM
The similarity in physical appearance between SK and DM, as well as the proximity of the areas of disappearance, is amazing, IMO. Also, a cursory glance of the car description seems similar to Sk's also, but I will go do some more comparing -can't think of exactly why that is, right now.

One fact I couldn't find is whether or not DM is married. I know that there is a "Michelle" listed as a person to be contacted should someone see him, but I didn't see an explanation as to who she is. Does anyone know if he's single?

Thanks.

liz b.
09-13-2011, 12:01 AM
Be helpful to know why he was having a hard time...Was it financial,emotional,both ? Or was it a more serious issue,like depression ? Although it was reported that he was not on any medication. Hope he is okay.... MOO

kjliss
09-13-2011, 07:20 AM
"Miller's family tells Action News that David suffered from depression and emotional issues but not hearing from him for a week is out of character."

and

"David's mother Michelle Miller"

both from this article:
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/129624168.html

"He looks familiar to me...is he married?"

"No, he's in the red rock singles ward"
from the facebook page Saturday at 6:45 pm:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-David-Miller/122444347857536
hth!
-Melissa

KivaSupporter
09-13-2011, 08:50 AM
Miller said his brother is likely in Southern Utah because David went to school for a year at Southern Utah University and has friends in Hurricane and St. George.

Miller said his brother is not likely to be in the mountains because he was not an "avid outdoorsman or an adventurer."

More at link:
http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20110913/NEWS01/109130318

laytonian
09-13-2011, 06:09 PM
Miller said his brother is likely in Southern Utah because David went to school for a year at Southern Utah University and has friends in Hurricane and St. George.

Miller said his brother is not likely to be in the mountains because he was not an "avid outdoorsman or an adventurer."

More at link:
http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20110913/NEWS01/109130318

But that's not making sense to me, Lato.

Why would he park his car south of Vegas (along US-95), if he was headed back to Southern Utah? If the "people saw him take a bike out of the car and ride away" thing is true, it makes it more unlikely.

Unless the car was being repo'd, and he had a ride to Southern Utah.
But he left his wallet behind.

laytonian
09-13-2011, 06:16 PM
they were found. Wales was spotted in Mexico(?) and Francisco was found in CA after he changed his name.

before one even gets to that point in time if it is determined he rode off on his own bike, then personally I think it would not be a LE issue any more. a serious cyclist would not park their car in location like that and ride off in the city.

I wonder what he was leaving behind or running away from?

Or running to.

The car was found far south of his NLV home, and if he did ride off on a bike, I wonder if it's as simple as the car being repo'd or reported stolen on purpose. Stranger things have happened.

This is one case where he may have been running TO something (your theory), much more likely than Koecher.

laytonian
09-13-2011, 06:28 PM
I guess I missed this, but did I read here that David lives in North Las Vegas? That's quite a ways from where his car was found.

Why did his family assume he had traveled to Southern Utah?

They believe he went back there, because that's where he went to school (and had friends). But it doesn't make sense (at least to me) to drive that far south, leave a car, and then (ride a bike?) further back north.

Red Rock Stake (maybe has a "singles ward") is over by Summerlin (10550 Alta). AHA. Stephen Jackson's story says "Police found his car miles from his northwest Las Vegas home."

Northwest Las Vegas....to Southeast. Even measuring from the Stake House (general area of their home) to In-N-Out/Jared's on Sunset, is 24 miles.

It doesn't make sense to drive that far out of town, if you're heading in the opposite direction.

ETA:
Map from home to car location: http://g.co/maps/4cgwc
You'll have to do do a scroll & zoom....Google Maps never centers very well

kjliss
09-13-2011, 09:12 PM
A new letter from his family just popped up on the facebook page:

The news article link at the bottom confirms the car being found at David's Jewelers. (I think we already knew this, but this is the first time I have seen it in print)

"Many of you have worked tirelessly in our search for our son, David Miller. Thank you so much for your efforts. Many continue to contact us to know what they can do to help. We feel it would be helpful to flood the local area again with this email which contains some updated information and a few photos of David. Also, please distribute this widely to other areas of the country and especially to Southern California, Utah, and the Midwest including South Dakota.

David Miller, 27 years old, 5' 10", 160 pounds, short brown hair, glasses, could have facial hair growth, mole at left temple by hairline

David's car was found Saturday September 10th in Henderson, near 1071 West Sunset (Jared Gallery of Jewelry).

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Missing Persons Detail is asking for the public's assistance in locating David Miller.

David might be in emotional distress. All area hospitals are to check their registries for David Miller and to notify police if found. It should be noted that "HIPPA" permits disclosure upon request from law enforcement, and is authorized pursuant, 45 C.F.R., 164.512.

Anyone with any information on the whereabouts of David Miller is strongly urged to contact the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Missing Persons Detail immediately.

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police- Missing Persons
Case # 110906-2106
702 828-2907
702 828-3111

Link to Channel 13 news story:
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/129624168.html"

Fairy1
09-13-2011, 09:47 PM
They believe he went back there, because that's where he went to school (and had friends). But it doesn't make sense (at least to me) to drive that far south, leave a car, and then (ride a bike?) further back north.

Red Rock Stake (maybe has a "singles ward") is over by Summerlin (10550 Alta). AHA. Stephen Jackson's story says "Police found his car miles from his northwest Las Vegas home."

Northwest Las Vegas....to Southeast. Even measuring from the Stake House (general area of their home) to In-N-Out/Jared's on Sunset, is 24 miles.

It doesn't make sense to drive that far out of town, if you're heading in the opposite direction.

ETA:
Map from home to car location: http://g.co/maps/4cgwc
You'll have to do do a scroll & zoom....Google Maps never centers very well

True. I really don't believe there is anything in the area in which his car was found that couldn't be found in NW Vegas - including places to cycle.

And yes, it is the opposite direction of Utah.

I really don't know about this whole bike thing. It sure would be nice to have some kind of confirmation of that.

Lato
09-14-2011, 08:28 AM
A Timeline from the Help Find David Miller facebook pages...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3947378/Timeline.pdf

Link to Facebook.....

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-David-Miller/122444347857536?sk=wall

laytonian
09-14-2011, 07:55 PM
A Timeline from the Help Find David Miller facebook pages...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3947378/Timeline.pdf

Link to Facebook.....

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-David-Miller/122444347857536?sk=wall

Whoa...those dates are seriously messed up on that timeline.
First they started confusing the days of the week...and by the end, the date is Tuesday 9.13.12

----

I see on the FB page that someone says their friend's boyfriend told them that they saw him at Charleston Outlets - but like most other sightings, it ran around and no one can tell if it was ever reported :(

webrocket
09-14-2011, 08:07 PM
I see on the FB page that someone says their friend's boyfriend told them that they saw him at Charleston Outlets - but like most other sightings, it ran around and no one can tell if it was ever reported :(

anything is possible but why would a guy on a bicycle go shopping at the outlets? if he's not on the bike, how is he getting around?

laytonian
09-14-2011, 10:12 PM
anything is possible but why would a guy on a bicycle go shopping at the outlets? if he's not on the bike, how is he getting around?

Charleston Outlet is a thrift store sponsored by Vietnam Veterans of America. It'd be the perfect place for a guy to pick up some cheap clothing, books, etc. (I've been in the place a couple of times.)

Here's an image: http://g.co/maps/7huw8
1548 E Charleston, Las Vegas, NV

Fairy1
09-14-2011, 10:22 PM
Charleston Outlet is a thrift store sponsored by Vietnam Veterans of America. It'd be the perfect place for a guy to pick up some cheap clothing, books, etc. (I've been in the place a couple of times.)

Here's an image: http://g.co/maps/7huw8
1548 E Charleston, Las Vegas, NV

I agree, but it's still quite a distance from where his car was found. I can't imagine someone riding a bike from point A (car location) to point B (thrift store).

I'm not buying the bike angle. I think he either has a ride or the sightings of him are not accurate.

I hope someone is thoroughly checking his electronic trail and that it reveals more than what we've seen in other cases.


JMHO

cocomod
09-15-2011, 01:22 PM
Craigslist ad for missing man:

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/vnn/2597789746.html

mamacita
09-15-2011, 01:37 PM
what about the transit system in that area? don't most buses have bike racks? maybe he put the bike on one and took off?? what bus routes (if any) are in that area? where to they go to and from?

mamacita
09-16-2011, 11:01 AM
here's a PDF i found from RTC of Southern Nevada. the first page has a listing of arrival/departure times along the route (see page 2 of the PDF for the map) for route #402. there may be other routes that go along there, but i'm not familiar with the area. this route just stuck out to me. do we know what time DM was believed to leave the vehicle?

http://www.rtcsnv.com/transit/route/402/402(11-07-10).pdf

from the galleria mall, the route heads northwest towards the Bonneville Transit Center:

info on the BTC is here (first one listed): http://www.rtcsnv.com/transit/terminals.cfm

i wonder if anyone has checked surveillance cameras from the buses on that route and/or at the Bonneville Transit Center?

also - does his mom (or anyone) know if he had a bike and what it looked like?

just throwing some ideas out there. :)

Fairy1
09-16-2011, 11:19 PM
here's a PDF i found from RTC of Southern Nevada. the first page has a listing of arrival/departure times along the route (see page 2 of the PDF for the map) for route #402. there may be other routes that go along there, but i'm not familiar with the area. this route just stuck out to me. do we know what time DM was believed to leave the vehicle?

http://www.rtcsnv.com/transit/route/402/402(11-07-10).pdf

from the galleria mall, the route heads northwest towards the Bonneville Transit Center:

info on the BTC is here (first one listed): http://www.rtcsnv.com/transit/terminals.cfm

i wonder if anyone has checked surveillance cameras from the buses on that route and/or at the Bonneville Transit Center?

also - does his mom (or anyone) know if he had a bike and what it looked like?

just throwing some ideas out there. :)

This is a good theory, but I think the route from Green Valley (where David's car was found) to the thrift store on East Charleston would be quite convoluted. Still, the buses are certainly a possibility.

We need more info, IMO. It's fine for the family to say he was depressed, etc. But that doesn't really explain much. Lots of people are depressed and don't disappear.

Does David have a job? Does he live alone or with a roommate(s)? What does he do in his spare time? Does he have a significant other in Southern Utah or somewhere else? Is there surveillance video of the car/bike transition? Any activity on his bank account(s)? Did he SAY he was suicidal?

Lato
09-16-2011, 11:47 PM
Fairy...so good to see you here.

My questions are.....did he leave with just the clothes on his back and his car keys?

Does he have a cell phone? Is it with him? Has it been used?

Does he live with parents? Does he own a bike and, if so, is it missing?

Is he married or dating? If not married, is he a member of a Singles Ward?

What does he do for a living?

Does he have checking account or credit, and if so, has it been used?

What do we know about St. George and Hurricane? Was he in college there?

I pray that this family finds their son very soon.

laytonian
09-23-2011, 11:36 AM
Fairy...so good to see you here.


Good to see YOU here, too!

This is what I've been able to put together, from the Facebook page and the many articles I've read:



My questions are.....did he leave with just the clothes on his back and his car keys?


Apparently.



Does he have a cell phone? Is it with him? Has it been used?

It was left behind.



Does he live with parents? Does he own a bike and, if so, is it missing?
He was last seen by his brother, in Vegas (apparently at the family home in the Summerlin area).


Is he married or dating? If not married, is he a member of a Singles Ward?

Has no girlfriend; did attend a singles ward/stake in Summerlin area.




What does he do for a living?

Just finished his Associates Degree in criminology, SUU, Cedar City, Utah.
No job mentioned.



Does he have checking account or credit, and if so, has it been used?

Credit card apparently left behind.



What do we know about St. George and Hurricane? Was he in college there?

He attended college at SUU, Cedar City, Utah. He had friends in St George and Hurricane, apparently.


I pray that this family finds their son very soon.

I wish we knew more about the security video. We hear LE says they couldn't determine for sure if David parked the car -- and there's been nothing more about the bicycle.

summer_breeze
09-24-2011, 02:31 PM
NamUs Profile

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/12292

webrocket
09-24-2011, 03:03 PM
per the Namus profile, this was noted:

A search of his recent computer inquiries included Suicide etc. Investigators believe that the M/P may intend to harm himself.

I appreciate the fact this information was shared. it does help shed some light on his mental state.

webrocket
09-25-2011, 08:45 AM
I posted this on the other missing Mormon unmarried male missing from Las Vegas, Steven Koecher. it might be even more appropriate here as it has been reported that Miller had been looking into suicide on his computer.

this is a sad tale of a married Mormon who came out as gay, lost everything from his "religious" community, then committed suicide:

http://prideinutah.com/?p=11093

Fairy1
09-30-2011, 04:20 PM
LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Authorities in southern Nevada are investigating the discovery of a man's body in the mountains south of Las Vegas and Henderson.

http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/local/story/Body-found-during-wildlife-survey-south-of-Vegas/cQCrUKNplkuBJso31Az1Sg.cspx?rss=3269

laytonian
09-30-2011, 04:49 PM
LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Authorities in southern Nevada are investigating the discovery of a man's body in the mountains south of Las Vegas and Henderson.

http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/local/story/Body-found-during-wildlife-survey-south-of-Vegas/cQCrUKNplkuBJso31Az1Sg.cspx?rss=3269

According to the Las Vegas Review Journal (http://www.lvrj.com/news/authorities-seek-identity-of-body-found-in-mountains-130852638.html) the decomposing body had likely been there "more than a month". Fell/jumped from a cliff.

David Miller was last seen 26 days ago, which is almost four weeks. Right now, David's the likely ID.

Map: http://g.co/maps/turcp
It's a long way from Henderson/Vegas. You go down I15 to the California border and then up, or down US-95 to Searchlight and then over .... and either way, it's dirt roads.
But Miller's car was found right by the US-95/Sunset intersection, where there are many hitchhikers.

cocomod
09-30-2011, 04:54 PM
Did they ever release a description of what David was wearing the day he disappeared?

shefner
09-30-2011, 08:52 PM
Some family is going to be hurting....I pray for them. If its David, at least his family will have some comfort in knowing more about what happened to him. My heart goes out to them.

laytonian
09-30-2011, 09:23 PM
Did they ever release a description of what David was wearing the day he disappeared?

Not that I can find.
Nor have I been able to find an official statement about his money, credit cards, wallet....etc.
I had read (but now can't find) that his cell phone was left behind.

cocomod
10-01-2011, 01:38 AM
Seems like if they saw him on the surveillance, the family likely knows what he was wearing. If they know this, they might have a preconceived notion about the identity of this poor man (if the clothing matches)...

I am praying for some family tonight. They will recieve some horrible news soon. As some state, at least they get to bring their loved one home to bury. However, it does mean that hope is lost. :(

laytonian
10-01-2011, 04:07 PM
Seems like if they saw him on the surveillance, the family likely knows what he was wearing. If they know this, they might have a preconceived notion about the identity of this poor man (if the clothing matches)...

I am praying for some family tonight. They will recieve some horrible news soon. As some state, at least they get to bring their loved one home to bury. However, it does mean that hope is lost. :(

OK, I found my info.
A source I trust, who has talked with David's father, says he left his wallet and cell phone behind.

The security video wasn't helpful. It didn't catch anything about a bicycle, and it showed nothing clear about the car's driver.
From that, I think it may have shown the car enter the parking lot, but not focus on the car being parked. IMO, of course. The security camera(s) would be there to protect the jewelry store itself, not the parking lot.

The picture of the car that I saw, showed the car facing away from Jared's - which means it likely faced In N Out Burger. I've thought for a long time, that In N Out's security may have caught a shot of him, especially if he went there for a burger. The two places share a fairly small parking lot (I've been there, a few times).
Would a young guy think "I've gotta go park at Jared's" or "I've got go park by that In N Out"?

The family really hasn't revealed much about how much money he may have had, or even what he was wearing.
Shorts and a t-shirt might be seen as "inappropriate" (similar to something in another case).

laytonian
10-06-2011, 02:12 PM
The man's body found in the McCullough Mountains (near Railroad Pass) has been identified. It is not David Miller. No cause of death yet.

Source: Fox 5 Vegas (http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/15632874/body-found-in-mountains-near-henderson-idd).

laytonian
10-10-2011, 01:41 PM
This case is frustrating.

I've asked questions on the FB page and am only referred to the "LDS News" which has an audio interview, which doesn't answer any specific questions. One answer about the bike, was truncated.

If anyone's interested, maybe they can tell me what I'm doing wrong? The "LDS News" people seem to want to keep it in-house, but that's not going to get information to the general public.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-David-Miller/122444347857536

webrocket
10-10-2011, 03:10 PM
This case is frustrating.

I've asked questions on the FB page and am only referred to the "LDS News" which has an audio interview, which doesn't answer any specific questions. One answer about the bike, was truncated.

If anyone's interested, maybe they can tell me what I'm doing wrong? The "LDS News" people seem to want to keep it in-house, but that's not going to get information to the general public.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-David-Miller/122444347857536

not surprising Laytonian, we've seen that before.

certain tight knit groups (insular religious communities, cults, and other non-mainstream believers) sanitize, srub, purge or otherwise refuse to talk about anything that might not fit the group image.

and they wonder why they cann't find some of these missing persons.

cocomod
10-10-2011, 03:29 PM
Really, after listening to the father's interview, they believe that he left of his own accord. They do not seem to be leaning towards suicide, but just that he wanted "peace". This will certainly affect the amount of media coverage a case will get. If the family even promotes that the person likely left to "start fresh", why would the media take note? JMHO

Father claims that the camera is far enough away and doesn't point in the right direction to really see David's car.

Does not believe sighting at outlets was David - wrong "kind" of clothing. So what do they think David was wearing?

I agree Laytonian, this is frustrating. However, I guess if he just chose to walk away, then... This is one of the few cases I have followed where I am really leaning towards voluntary walk away, no foul play, and hopefully no suicide.

webrocket
10-10-2011, 04:02 PM
This is one of the few cases I have followed where I am really leaning towards voluntary walk away, no foul play, and hopefully no suicide.

call it bias or call it intuition but when guys disappear (absent circumstances that sound like foul play at the scene) I usually assume walk aways.

whether it is being bored with wife, job, girlfriend, kids, or not wanting to come out as gay to family, guys are far more likely to walk away than women, especially if the women have children.

the flip side is that we read how some men who don't walk away commit terrible crimes against their families and I'm sure in hindsight people would have said 'if only he just walked away, why kill them, etc?'

laytonian
10-10-2011, 08:33 PM
Really, after listening to the father's interview, they believe that he left of his own accord. They do not seem to be leaning towards suicide, but just that he wanted "peace". This will certainly affect the amount of media coverage a case will get. If the family even promotes that the person likely left to "start fresh", why would the media take note? JMHO

Father claims that the camera is far enough away and doesn't point in the right direction to really see David's car.

Does not believe sighting at outlets was David - wrong "kind" of clothing. So what do they think David was wearing?

I agree Laytonian, this is frustrating. However, I guess if he just chose to walk away, then... This is one of the few cases I have followed where I am really leaning towards voluntary walk away, no foul play, and hopefully no suicide.

This is what's frustrating me. We've heard that he left home in an "extremely agitated" state - and that he'd had been suffering mental issues. To me, that's an endangered adult rather than a walkaway. Couple that with the "wanted peace" statement, and my feelings get stronger.
A friend who tried to commit suicide, told me that she'd just been "seeking peace" from all her mental turmoil.

I believe they *wish* he was a walkaway ... rather than thinking he took his own life. That gives them hope.

The bike? Maybe the camera doesn't show it. But if he had a bike, and it's now missing (and it's not in the car trunk)...there's some logic in the sighting.

About the security camera: I had asked, several times, if the security camera at In N Out burger next door had been checked .... because (IMO) that's more of a destination for a young man wanting to leave, than a jewelry store. But I'm sure it's too late now, to check those tapes.

:banghead:
Not much we can do, even though we're being asked to "help find David".

laytonian
10-10-2011, 08:35 PM
call it bias or call it intuition but when guys disappear (absent circumstances that sound like foul play at the scene) I usually assume walk aways.

whether it is being bored with wife, job, girlfriend, kids, or not wanting to come out as gay to family, guys are far more likely to walk away than women, especially if the women have children.

the flip side is that we read how some men who don't walk away commit terrible crimes against their families and I'm sure in hindsight people would have said 'if only he just walked away, why kill them, etc?'

Very true, webrocket.

I've lately been attracted to the cases of young single men who disappear from the Utah/Nevada area. They get little publicity, and their cases are so "apart" from those of the pretty young blonde girls.

webrocket
10-10-2011, 09:06 PM
Very true, webrocket.

I've lately been attracted to the cases of young single men who disappear from the Utah/Nevada area. They get little publicity, and their cases are so "apart" from those of the pretty young blonde girls.

I spend most of my WS time in the unidentified forum trying to match the deceased to missing persons.

I wonder if David Miller and Steven Koecher are keeping company with the same Big Daddy Warbucks?

Apples2Apples
10-10-2011, 09:09 PM
So sad! I was hoping they had found him by now.

laytonian
10-11-2011, 10:46 PM
David's mother posted on the FB page today, answering some questions (well...she didn't have answers, but it still was nice of her to stop in).

The night before David disappeared, he used his computer to map out travel to South Dakota.

His parents went there, but didn't find a connection.
But that's just it -- he was in college, and had connections they don't know about.

I'd think his college would have a way to ID students from South Dakota. There can't be many going to school in Cedar City, Utah.

Leomoon80
10-11-2011, 11:39 PM
what about the transit system in that area? don't most buses have bike racks? maybe he put the bike on one and took off?? what bus routes (if any) are in that area? where to they go to and from?

Is there a time for last seen?

tarabull
10-12-2011, 12:47 AM
David's mother posted on the FB page today, answering some questions (well...she didn't have answers, but it still was nice of her to stop in).

The night before David disappeared, he used his computer to map out travel to South Dakota.

His parents went there, but didn't find a connection.
But that's just it -- he was in college, and had connections they don't know about.

I'd think his college would have a way to ID students from South Dakota. There can't be many going to school in Cedar City, Utah.

Here's some additonal info David's mother offered:

- David left home the morning of Sept. 4th
- active LDS member
- not involved with drugs or alcohol
- warm & kind person
- well liked by those who know him
- did not see him leave so they do not know what he was wearing or what he took with him
- typically he wears jeans and a t-shirt
- they know he took his wallet
- did not take his cell phone
- car was found Sept. 10 in a parking lot close to Jared Jeweler's in Henderson
- NO surveillance footage at all of David
- no bike is involved or missing from home
- LV Metro Police is handling our case & have been good to work with
- as far as she knows the FBI is not involved
- at this point, no strong leads where David may be
- continue to keep eyes open & pray!

cocomod
10-12-2011, 09:07 AM
This is what's frustrating me. We've heard that he left home in an "extremely agitated" state - and that he'd had been suffering mental issues. To me, that's an endangered adult rather than a walkaway. Couple that with the "wanted peace" statement, and my feelings get stronger.
A friend who tried to commit suicide, told me that she'd just been "seeking peace" from all her mental turmoil.

I believe they *wish* he was a walkaway ... rather than thinking he took his own life. That gives them hope.

The bike? Maybe the camera doesn't show it. But if he had a bike, and it's now missing (and it's not in the car trunk)...there's some logic in the sighting.

About the security camera: I had asked, several times, if the security camera at In N Out burger next door had been checked .... because (IMO) that's more of a destination for a young man wanting to leave, than a jewelry store. But I'm sure it's too late now, to check those tapes.

:banghead:
Not much we can do, even though we're being asked to "help find David".

I agree 100% . I also agree about the missing men in the Utah area. There is a guy from Moab that also disappeared, and there is absolutely ZERO press coverage for him; not to mention SK.

laytonian
10-12-2011, 05:48 PM
Here's some additonal info David's mother offered:

- David left home the morning of Sept. 4th
- active LDS member
- not involved with drugs or alcohol
- warm & kind person
- well liked by those who know him
- did not see him leave so they do not know what he was wearing or what he took with him
- typically he wears jeans and a t-shirt
- they know he took his wallet
- did not take his cell phone
- car was found Sept. 10 in a parking lot close to Jared Jeweler's in Henderson
- NO surveillance footage at all of David
- no bike is involved or missing from home
- LV Metro Police is handling our case & have been good to work with
- as far as she knows the FBI is not involved
- at this point, no strong leads where David may be
- continue to keep eyes open & pray!

Also, from the flyer: the car was parked on Sep 5th

So...he was *somewhere* between when he left home and when the car was parked.

Fairy1
10-12-2011, 08:24 PM
Also, from the flyer: the car was parked on Sep 5th

So...he was *somewhere* between when he left home and when the car was parked.

Hmmmmm. How do they know the car was parked on 9/5? :waitasec:

tarabull
10-12-2011, 09:15 PM
Also, from the flyer: the car was parked on Sep 5th

So...he was *somewhere* between when he left home and when the car was parked.

ah ha! maybe the same *somewhere* the bike is from :waitasec: since they claim the bike is not missing from home.

laytonian
10-13-2011, 04:25 PM
Hmmmmm. How do they know the car was parked on 9/5? :waitasec:

Apparently, from the security video. They know what date the car was parked and it's specifically mentioned on the "missing flyer" HERE (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-David-Miller/122444347857536#!/photo.php?fbid=123972107704760&set=a.122444434524194.15884.122444347857536&type=3&theater).

There's a timeline (one of those that doesn't say anything, because there's no TIMES, just dates). Arrrrggggghh.
We know he was last seen at home, by his brother.
But WHEN?
WHEN was the car parked?
Exactly where? I still think he met someone at In N Out, which is right next door to Jared...but that's apparently a non-starter.

laytonian
10-13-2011, 04:26 PM
ah ha! maybe the same *somewhere* the bike is from :waitasec: since they claim the bike is not missing from home.

Yup. That's what I'm thinking.
Seeing someone take a bike out of a car trunk and ride away, would be a somewhat memorable event. But it's been discounted.

Fairy1
10-13-2011, 08:22 PM
Apparently, from the security video. They know what date the car was parked and it's specifically mentioned on the "missing flyer" HERE (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-David-Miller/122444347857536#!/photo.php?fbid=123972107704760&set=a.122444434524194.15884.122444347857536&type=3&theater).

There's a timeline (one of those that doesn't say anything, because there's no TIMES, just dates). Arrrrggggghh.
We know he was last seen at home, by his brother.
But WHEN?
WHEN was the car parked?
Exactly where? I still think he met someone at In N Out, which is right next door to Jared...but that's apparently a non-starter.

But they've now said there was no surveillance video of David. I assume the car didn't park itself and that someone exited it at some point. If they ascertained when the car was parked from viewing surveillance video, they would also have seen who was driving it. Possibly they couldn't tell whether it was David or not?

tarabull
10-13-2011, 08:28 PM
Yup. That's what I'm thinking.
Seeing someone take a bike out of a car trunk and ride away, would be a somewhat memorable event. But it's been discounted.

Where has it been discounted???

Do you mean here??


Here's some additonal info David's mother offered:

- David left home the morning of Sept. 4th
- active LDS member
- not involved with drugs or alcohol
- warm & kind person
- well liked by those who know him
- did not see him leave so they do not know what he was wearing or what he took with him
- typically he wears jeans and a t-shirt
- they know he took his wallet
- did not take his cell phone
- car was found Sept. 10 in a parking lot close to Jared Jeweler's in Henderson
- NO surveillance footage at all of David
- no bike is involved or missing from home
- LV Metro Police is handling our case & have been good to work with
- as far as she knows the FBI is not involved
- at this point, no strong leads where David may be
- continue to keep eyes open & pray!

Because if so, I took that line about the bike to mean two seperate things
No bike is involved from the home and No bike is missing from the home

Did you find the bike discounted somewhere else also???

truthsleuth
10-13-2011, 08:53 PM
...The night before David disappeared, he used his computer to map out travel to South Dakota.

His parents went there, but didn't find a connection.
But that's just it -- he was in college, and had connections they don't know about. ...

The fact that he was mapping out travel to South Dakota seems extremely important. What else would be the point of "mapping out travel to" that state--and boom, the next day he is gone?

Also I don't understand that his parents said they "didn't find a connection" when they went there. My guess is there doesn't have to be one. It's a perfect place to escape to. How could one find a connection if David simply wanted to leave every part of his life behind for whatever reason ...

Mamacita stated earlier that buses have bike racks, and the transit station surveillance tapes would be worth reviewing in the search for David--if that hasn't been done already. I couldn't agree more. A bus or train to SD might be exactly what happened.

That's my take, right or wrong. I hope David is found soon.

Fairy1
10-13-2011, 09:25 PM
Whoa - I totally missed this South Dakota thing. His parents went there? Really? Did they search the entire state?

The connection is the computer search the night before he went missing. Sheesh.

laytonian
10-14-2011, 12:11 AM
The fact that he was mapping out travel to South Dakota seems extremely important. What else would be the point of "mapping out travel to" that state--and boom, the next day he is gone?

Also I don't understand that his parents said they "didn't find a connection" when they went there. My guess is there doesn't have to be one. It's a perfect place to escape to. How could one find a connection if David simply wanted to leave every part of his life behind for whatever reason

...and to Fairy1, too:

Investigation finds a connection, not travel.
I'm guessing that he mapped out an address in South Dakota, and that the parents went there, and found nothing.

If I were his parents, I'd be asking SUU in Cedar City for a list of their students with hometowns in South Dakota. How many could there be? Like 12 or something?

Going north this time of year, was with purpose. Maybe he had enough money to buy a bus ticket to meet someone.

laytonian
10-14-2011, 12:13 AM
Where has it been discounted???

Do you mean here??

Because if so, I took that line about the bike to mean two seperate things
No bike is involved from the home and No bike is missing from the home

Did you find the bike discounted somewhere else also???

Not here; investigatively, I guess. Nothing like that showed on the security video.

Of course, we don't know if the car itself was shown on the video, or just it entering the parking lot.
It's all so quiet and downplayed, like they want help "finding David" but the details aren't important.

laytonian
10-14-2011, 12:16 AM
But they've now said there was no surveillance video of David. I assume the car didn't park itself and that someone exited it at some point. If they ascertained when the car was parked from viewing surveillance video, they would also have seen who was driving it. Possibly they couldn't tell whether it was David or not?

Exactly.

They know when the car was parked, so it must have driven by a camera -- but apparently, there's no clear video of the driver OR of the car while parked.

I'm guessing here, but those security cameras at Jared would be concerned with who walked into the building - not the parking lot itself. Or things are taped over, in certain areas.

SunDancer
10-14-2011, 11:48 AM
Hmmmmm. How do they know the car was parked on 9/5? :waitasec:

From a conversation I had with a family member of David's on 09/16/11: The location of the car was reported to the police by a person who worked at one of the retailers in that area. This person reported that they had first noticed the car on 09/05 (a Monday) and that the car had not been moved during the time from 09/05 until the person notified the police on 09/10.

I do not know if there was any surveillance video showing the car entering the parking lot. I do know that the family has said the car was parked in an area that was not covered by the surveillance videos - hence no video of David, the car, or the alleged bike.

If there is no video showing when the car entered the lot - it is possible, in my opinion, that the car could have been parked there as early as Sunday, 09/04 - the day David left home.

tarabull
10-14-2011, 11:59 AM
Thanks for the 411 SunDancer...

Are you able to verify the bike story - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - NV NV - David Miller, 27, Las Vegas, 4-Sep-2011


Is there a bike involved? but not a bike involved or missing from the home?

laytonian
10-14-2011, 12:06 PM
From a conversation I had with a family member of David's on 09/16/11: The location of the car was reported to the police by a person who worked at one of the retailers in that area. This person reported that they had first noticed the car on 09/05 (a Monday) and that the car had not been moved during the time from 09/05 until the person notified the police on 09/10.

I do not know if there was any surveillance video showing the car entering the parking lot. I do know that the family has said the car was parked in an area that was not covered by the surveillance videos - hence no video of David, the car, or the alleged bike.

If there is no video showing when the car entered the lot - it is possible, in my opinion, that the car could have been parked there as early as Sunday, 09/04 - the day David left home.

That would make the most sense to me, also.

But the family specifically states on the poster that the car was "Sitting in the parking lot since 9/5/11".

From all reports, the car was reported by the Jared employees on Sep 10th.

Maybe I'm just too detail-oriented, but I really think it's the little details that solve a case.

tarabull
10-14-2011, 12:25 PM
I agree the devil in the details...

I guess it's time I stopped chasing the alleged bike.

SunDancer
10-14-2011, 01:32 PM
That would make the most sense to me, also.

But the family specifically states on the poster that the car was "Sitting in the parking lot since 9/5/11".

From all reports, the car was reported by the Jared employees on Sep 10th.

Maybe I'm just too detail-oriented, but I really think it's the little details that solve a case.

I agree, details are extremely important. However, that is why I pointed out that the 5th was a Monday. It is possible the employee that noticed the car did not work on Sunday the 4th or perhaps the vehicle was parked after business hours. The only firm information we have is that the car was in the parking lot on the 5th and reported to the police on the 10th. So, I think the police and the family are staying with the known facts when reporting information about the car.

To Tarabull - Unfortunately I cannot speak to the alleged bike, other than the family has reported that David did not take a bike from the family home.

From reading the postings on this forum and on the Help Find David Miller facebook page, I know that there are a lot of caring and concerned individuals that would like to help find David but are frustrated by the lack of solid details/leads in this case.

It is my opinion, after speaking with the family member, that the family is not trying to withhold information but are likewise lacking solid leads and rather than taint the case with a lot of speculation and opinion keep reporting the facts as they know them, even though most of what they know is what they don't know - such as when he actually left home, how much money he had with him, what he was wearing, when he abandoned his car, etc.

SunDancer
10-14-2011, 01:49 PM
...and to Fairy1, too:

Investigation finds a connection, not travel.
I'm guessing that he mapped out an address in South Dakota, and that the parents went there, and found nothing.

If I were his parents, I'd be asking SUU in Cedar City for a list of their students with hometowns in South Dakota. How many could there be? Like 12 or something?

Going north this time of year, was with purpose. Maybe he had enough money to buy a bus ticket to meet someone.

The primary link between David and South Dakota/Nebraska, (other than the computer search the night before he left home), is that David had served a mission for the LDS Church in that area several years ago. David had made comments to his family that indicated he found the pace of life in the Midwest (more rural/slower paced) to be attractive to him and more peaceful.

Again from my conversation with a family member of David's on 09/16/2011 - It is true that David's parents flew to South Dakota on 09/08/2011 to look for David. At the time of my conversation, I did not think to ask for specifics of where they went or who they spoke to. My understanding is that they returned the following day to Las Vegas to join a large search for David in the Southern Utah area.

At the time it was believed that David was with his vehicle. The family thought he may have driven to Cedar City to visit friends. According to the family member I spoke with they searched as far north as Fillmore, Utah. It was while the family was participating in this search that they received the phone call on 09/10/11 with the news that David's car had been found in Henderson, Nevada.

The family knows that the trip to South Dakota was by no means an exhaustive search and have continued to encourage people in that area to look for David. I agree that he possibly has other friends and connections other than those from his mission that the family may not be aware of. Checking with the school may generate some additional leads that the family and police could track.

Fairy1
10-14-2011, 10:12 PM
From a conversation I had with a family member of David's on 09/16/11: The location of the car was reported to the police by a person who worked at one of the retailers in that area. This person reported that they had first noticed the car on 09/05 (a Monday) and that the car had not been moved during the time from 09/05 until the person notified the police on 09/10.

I do not know if there was any surveillance video showing the car entering the parking lot. I do know that the family has said the car was parked in an area that was not covered by the surveillance videos - hence no video of David, the car, or the alleged bike.

If there is no video showing when the car entered the lot - it is possible, in my opinion, that the car could have been parked there as early as Sunday, 09/04 - the day David left home.

Welcome and thanks so much. That makes more sense to me.

CONCRNED CTZN
10-24-2011, 12:18 AM
The primary link between David and South Dakota/Nebraska, (other than the computer search the night before he left home), is that David had served a mission for the LDS Church in that area several years ago. David had made comments to his family that indicated he found the pace of life in the Midwest (more rural/slower paced) to be attractive to him and more peaceful.

Again from my conversation with a family member of David's on 09/16/2011 - It is true that David's parents flew to South Dakota on 09/08/2011 to look for David. At the time of my conversation, I did not think to ask for specifics of where they went or who they spoke to. My understanding is that they returned the following day to Las Vegas to join a large search for David in the Southern Utah area.

At the time it was believed that David was with his vehicle. The family thought he may have driven to Cedar City to visit friends. According to the family member I spoke with they searched as far north as Fillmore, Utah. It was while the family was participating in this search that they received the phone call on 09/10/11 with the news that David's car had been found in Henderson, Nevada.

The family knows that the trip to South Dakota was by no means an exhaustive search and have continued to encourage people in that area to look for David. I agree that he possibly has other friends and connections other than those from his mission that the family may not be aware of. Checking with the school may generate some additional leads that the family and police could track.

I'd be curious what/where the end location in South Dakota was...or if he just searched SD.

depuppy3
10-27-2011, 05:44 PM
No info on this one since 10/23. Hope the family has received some positive info.

depuppy3
10-28-2011, 01:53 AM
Davids Mother just updated the FB page. No new news. Did relay David is an artist. Posted some sites of his work.

SunDancer
12-26-2011, 02:20 AM
Merry Christmas David! Wherever you are tonight, please know that your family and friends love you and are thinking of you. You are greatly missed. You and your family are in our thoughts and prayers.

Donjeta
09-10-2012, 05:45 PM
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/miller_david.html

laytonian
11-17-2012, 12:40 AM
The human remains found south of Lake Mead earlier this week, have been identified as David Miller (missing since Sep 4, 2011).

Click HERE (http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/local/story/Remains-IDd-as-Vegas-man-missing-for-more-than-a/vC0qW5RUX0KdQfPf07cp3Q.cspx?rss=3269&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter) to read news story from Las Vegas.

Sleuthster
11-17-2012, 01:23 AM
The human remains found south of Lake Mead earlier this week, have been identified as David Miller (missing since Sep 4, 2011).

Click HERE (http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/local/story/Remains-IDd-as-Vegas-man-missing-for-more-than-a/vC0qW5RUX0KdQfPf07cp3Q.cspx?rss=3269&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter) to read news story from Las Vegas.

How sad :(

Leomoon80
11-17-2012, 01:36 AM
May his family now find some solace. Makes me think of Steven Koechner missing around the same time also from similar background.

David R.I.P.

truthsleuth
11-17-2012, 11:30 AM
I'm so sorry to hear of David's death. I always hoped for the best, that he had made his way to South Dakota, as he had mapped out.

Rest now, David. Rest in peace:rose::rose:

cocomod
11-17-2012, 08:13 PM
R.I.P. David

May your family and friends find solace in knowing where you are and knowing that you are at peace.

StormyNights
11-17-2012, 09:14 PM
RIP David. I hope that you have found peace in your new home. May your family be blessed and comforted at this very difficult time.