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IWannaKnow
10-19-2011, 02:32 AM
The Noah's Family Foundation, a not for profit corporation, has become the Max A. Shacknai Foundation.

http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=08080251

Officer Information JONAH SHACKNAI
PRESIDENT
7720 N DOBSON RD
SCOTTSDALE,AZ 85256
Date of Taking Office: 05/19/1997
Last Updated: 07/15/2011


Director Information JONAH SHACKNAI
DIRECTOR
7720 N DOBSON RD
SCOTTSDALE,AZ 85256
Date of Taking Office: 05/19/1997
Last Updated: 07/15/2011

Name change amendment, adopted July 22, 2011:

http://images.azcc.gov/scripts/cgi/dwispart2.pl

Rebecca Zahau funeral July 23, 2011
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=73397507

Doesn't a corporation have to have more than a director?

IWannaKnow
10-19-2011, 02:39 AM
http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/000128/giving.shtml

Giving occupies firm's founder
January 28, 2000/21 Shevat 5760, Vol. 52, No.21

Shacknai, 43, is a director of the Southwest Autism Research Center (SARC) and of the Whispering Hope Ranch, a foundation that helps provide animal-assisted therapy for children and adults with special needs.

He is also the founder and chairman of the Noah's Family Foundation, a private philanthropic organization; and a member of the board of directors of the Delta Society, a national public-service organization that promotes animal-assisted therapy and provides training programs for service dogs.

Shacknai says that of the charitable efforts with which he's involved, he gets the most satisfaction from those that help children. He became involved with SARC through his friendship with Denise Resnick, SARC'S founder and the mother of an autistic child.

time
10-19-2011, 05:49 PM
I don't exactly get it. Usually you name a foundation after a person or child who has a similar affliction or situation/cause. This doesn't apply here to Jonah renaming the foundation. Maybe it's just me.

time
10-19-2011, 05:53 PM
The Noah's Family Foundation, a not for profit corporation, has become the Max A. Shacknai Foundation.

http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=08080251



Name change amendment, adopted July 22, 2011:

http://images.azcc.gov/scripts/cgi/dwispart2.pl

Rebecca Zahau funeral July 23, 2011
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=73397507

Doesn't a corporation have to have more than a director?


I think a nonprofit does?

I find it odd he did this so soon ... I hate to think it had anything to do with publicity bringing in more dollars. Somebody smack me before I say he did it to look good.

Betty P
10-19-2011, 06:10 PM
Another PR move. He's certainly getting a lot for the money he's paying them. IMO

time
10-19-2011, 06:22 PM
Another PR move. He's certainly getting a lot for the money he's paying them. IMO

Yeah, and interesting that Resnick is connected both through this nonprofit and through representing him as a PR firm... or is just a friend as was presented in an early news article :waitasec:

time
10-19-2011, 06:28 PM
Another observation... probably when the name was changed they were assuming Rebecca's death would be determined a tragic suicide. I doubt anyone assumed it would be gaining this much publicity and contested so publicly by the family. Now anytime someone searches Max's name, suspicions about Rebecca's death will come up.

IWannaKnow
10-20-2011, 09:35 AM
Yeah, and interesting that Resnick is connected both through this nonprofit and through representing him as a PR firm... or is just a friend as was presented in an early news article :waitasec:

I agree time. Bringing this post by CalElliot forward for reference:


Denise Resnik (no "c") operates a PR company.
Denise Resnik was quoted in an LA Times blog as a "friend" of Jonah Shacknai's, vouching for his character, with no disclosure of their professional relationships.
Denise Resnik has an adult son, Matthew, who is autistic.
Denise Resnik is on the board of Whispering Hope Ranch autism foundation in AZ.
Resnik is a cofounder of SARRC (Southwest Autism Research & Resource center) in AZ.
Raun Melmed is a cofounder of SARRC in AZ.
Raun Melmed is medical director of Melmed Center in AZ.
Dina Shacknai is a "clinical psychologist fellow" (not a doctor) at Melmed Center in AZ.
Jonah Shacknai is on the board of Whispering Hope Ranch autism foundation in AZ.
Howard Luber is a dermatologist in AZ.
Howard Luber's wife, Lisa Luber, is a pharmacist in AZ.
Howard Luber and Jonah Shacknai own or owned neighboring property in Paradise Valley AZ.



http://www.dracommunications.com/#!leadership
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/07/coronado-mansion.html
http://www.melmedcenter.com/
http://www.whisperinghoperanch.org/board_of_directors
http://www.autismcenter.org/board.aspx
http://www.autismcenter.org/leadership_team.aspx
http://www.phoenixmag.com/top-docs/articles/200804/dr--howard-j--luber
http://phoenix.blockshopper.com/news/story/1100034818-Family_doctor_lists_Paradise_Valley_6BD_for_4_495M ,
http://www.camelrx.com/

time
10-20-2011, 11:45 AM
I agree time. Bringing this post by CalElliot forward for reference:

Thanks ...I remember that post. I wonder how much Rebecca was able to integrate into this social circle and how close these others are to Dina. I remember an odd comment posted (perhaps by the book author) that Dina helped start one of those autism foundations, but the timeline is not right for that to be true? Makes one wonder where that info is coming from. I have to at least ponder whether some negative talk was taking place over the last 2 or 3 years concerning Rebecca. I don't think during a bad time, Max's accident, I'd want to be surrounded by Dr. Luber, Nina, Dina, Dina's boyfriend, Adam, Resnik, and Jonah if I were her. Too bad her family wasn't in the area for support and to look after her.

coastal
10-20-2011, 12:56 PM
I think a nonprofit does?

I find it odd he did this so soon ... I hate to think it had anything to do with publicity bringing in more dollars. Somebody smack me before I say he did it to look good.
http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/liebe/a095.gif

time
10-20-2011, 02:20 PM
http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/liebe/a095.gif

hehe ... thanks I needed that! :skip::skip:

CDS22
10-20-2011, 03:09 PM
The Noah's Family Foundation, a not for profit corporation, has become the Max A. Shacknai Foundation.

http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=08080251



Name change amendment, adopted July 22, 2011:

http://images.azcc.gov/scripts/cgi/dwispart2.pl

Rebecca Zahau funeral July 23, 2011
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=73397507

Doesn't a corporation have to have more than a director?

It's a common practice in Judaism to name a charity after a lost loved one. Little Leiby Kletzky had a foundation named after him, too. The charity need not be related to the person (for example, a cancer foundation can be named after a child who did not die of cancer). It merely exists to do good in that child's name, to bring a blessing to their remembrance instead of sorrow.

Jewish writer Herman Wouk (he wrote Marjorie Morningstar and The Caine Mutiny) named a foundation after his son, Abe, who died tragically.

IWannaKnow
10-20-2011, 03:12 PM
This was initiated the day before they took Max off life support. The following day he had DL get Ocean out of the kennel. That is one cool customer. That would not have been what I was thinking about if I had just lost my beloved partner AND my youngest child. I would be a puddle on the floor. JMO.

CDS22
10-20-2011, 03:13 PM
This was initiated the day before they took Max off life support. The following day he had DL get Ocean out of the kennel. That is one cool customer. That would not have been what I was thinking about if I had just lost my beloved partner AND my youngest child. I would be a puddle on the floor. JMO.

It's part of Judaism. It was actually a courageous thing to do. It shows he was able to think of others during his time of grief, just like he and Dina did when they donated Max's organs to other children.

stilettos
10-20-2011, 03:18 PM
Another PR move. He's certainly getting a lot for the money he's paying them. IMO

While I would hate to think that a charitable foundation named for your deceased son is PR....I would say that I think the timing is interesting....and to think that he had to think of his son's funeral arrangements, Rebecca his loving partner's funeral arrangements...and yet he had time to tie up the legalities of this foundation and getting a high powered PR firm. Hmmm..priorities.

CDS22
10-20-2011, 03:25 PM
While I would hate to think that a charitable foundation named for your deceased son is PR....I would say that I think the timing is interesting....and to think that he had to think of his son's funeral arrangements, Rebecca his loving partner's funeral arrangements...and yet he had time to tie up the legalities of this foundation and getting a high powered PR firm. Hmmm..priorities.

Why would you think an act of Judaism is a PR move? Do you not realize you are insulting Judaism by insulting what is a common practice in the faith when you lose a child?

CDS22
10-20-2011, 03:27 PM
The Leiby Kletzky Memorial Fund:

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/07/22/3088661/parents-of-leiby-kletzky-release-statement-create-memorial-fund

Issued ONE DAY after sitting shiva. Was this a PR move?

CDS22
10-20-2011, 03:30 PM
Coping with grief by doing good (a basic tenet of Judaism):

http://matzav.com/the-leiby-kletzky-memorial-fund-coping-with-grief-by-doing-good

stilettos
10-20-2011, 03:37 PM
Why would you think an act of Judaism is a PR move? Do you not realize you are insulting Judaism by insulting what is a common practice in the faith when you lose a child?

In no way should anything I have posted be twisted into an insult to Judaism. I just returned from celebrating the Feast of Tabernacles with my Spiritual family. You might be surprised to know that Mr. Shacknai's behavior was commented on several times by those coming to attend. It is the totality of JS's behavior and the timing of such that rings as ice within the soul. MOO.

elfie
10-20-2011, 03:47 PM
I don't really see any problems with naming a charitable foundation after his son, Max. I think that it would help with the grieving process.

The question is where is Rebecca in all of this?

CDS22
10-20-2011, 06:10 PM
I don't really see any problems with naming a charitable foundation after his son, Max. I think that it would help with the grieving process.

The question is where is Rebecca in all of this?

This is typically done with the death of a child. The Zahau family is free to start a charity in Rebecca's name if they see fit.

coastal
10-20-2011, 06:27 PM
This is typically done with the death of a child. The Zahau family is free to start a charity in Rebecca's name if they see fit.
Welcome back, CDS22!
I was worried about you; hope all is well.

Carpe Pacem
10-23-2011, 02:01 AM
In my experience, it seems easier for men to cope with grief by focusing on "taking care of business," for fear they'd lose all control with their sorrow. As a female, I don't "get" it emotionally, but have come to understand that's how many men operate.

Focusing on organ donation and giving honor to his son's memory are things that I can in no way hold against him, whatever his involvement or noninvolvement in the horrendous death of Rebecca, may her soul rest in peace.

Charlie09
10-23-2011, 02:47 AM
I don't want to defend jonah at all. He's still suspect to me - however, I have changed two charity names. An assistant can do it, the non-profit secretary can do it - the timing is really weird, but he may not have even known about it.

Zale
10-23-2011, 06:46 PM
Thanks ...I remember that post. I wonder how much Rebecca was able to integrate into this social circle and how close these others are to Dina. I remember an odd comment posted (perhaps by the book author) that Dina helped start one of those autism foundations, but the timeline is not right for that to be true? Makes one wonder where that info is coming from. I have to at least ponder whether some negative talk was taking place over the last 2 or 3 years concerning Rebecca. I don't think during a bad time, Max's accident, I'd want to be surrounded by Dr. Luber, Nina, Dina, Dina's boyfriend, Adam, Resnik, and Jonah if I were her. Too bad her family wasn't in the area for support and to look after her.

I couldn't agree more. It was a frightful, precarious, trying time and no one should have had to go it alone, and not only that, but get stuck with people who were not supportive of her during her time of need. I feel for RZ.

Mrs. Holmes
10-23-2011, 08:37 PM
This is typically done with the death of a child. The Zahau family is free to start a charity in Rebecca's name if they see fit.

RZ was his partner, his lover, she lived in his home, his world. She cared for his children. What has he done to honor her? It speaks volumes about his mind set towards her...cold... was it sudden?... was it as a result of his son's accident.. and that he thought she was responsible?

Granted... it was a double whammy.. but months later...still not a public sliver of honoring her in anyway. His acceptance of her suicide.... when so many complete strangers have questions.. over the evidence? His immediate and forceful stance in protecting his innocence.... does not feel like the actions of a man that truly loved this woman. His letter to the AG was nothing more than a PR stunt... he never even told them in person he was writing to the AG.

It comes off as cold.. he did write something about her always having a place in his heart and being "unique". There seemed to be no passion for this woman.. not publically. It came across as forced... and "unique" seemed almost an insult.

Maybe he never loved her.. but it sure does not come across that he mourns her death.

As others have said it is the totality of his actions... when he loves someone as is the case of his son..he takes quick and decisive action... even under crushing grief... but he does not seem to have any kind of passion for RZ.

IMO

nanwv
10-23-2011, 11:40 PM
Seems His BFF Howard was/is SECRETARY/TREASURER

Return of Private Foundation 2009
or Section 4947(a)(1) Nonexempt Charitable Trust Treated as a Private Foundation

NOAH'S FAMILY FOUNDATION
C/O JONAH SHACKNAI 7720 N. DOBSON ROAD
SCOTTSDALE AZ 85256

JONAH SHACKNAI PRES. & DIRECTOR
7720 N. DOBSON ROAD
SCOTTSDALE , AZ 85256
HOWARD J. LUBER , M.D. SECRETARY/TREASURER
6105 E CABALLO DR.
PARADISE VALLEY , AZ 85253
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katydid23
10-24-2011, 12:23 AM
RZ was his partner, his lover, she lived in his home, his world. She cared for his children. What has he done to honor her? It speaks volumes about his mind set towards her...cold... was it sudden?... was it as a result of his son's accident.. and that he thought she was responsible?

Granted... it was a double whammy.. but months later...still not a public sliver of honoring her in anyway. His acceptance of her suicide.... when so many complete strangers have questions.. over the evidence? His immediate and forceful stance in protecting his innocence.... does not feel like the actions of a man that truly loved this woman. His letter to the AG was nothing more than a PR stunt... he never even told them in person he was writing to the AG.

It comes off as cold.. he did write something about her always having a place in his heart and being "unique". There seemed to be no passion for this woman.. not publically. It came across as forced... and "unique" seemed almost an insult.

Maybe he never loved her.. but it sure does not come across that he mourns her death.

As others have said it is the totality of his actions... when he loves someone as is the case of his son..he takes quick and decisive action... even under crushing grief... but he does not seem to have any kind of passion for RZ.

IMO

I don't think you can possibly compare the love he had for his youngest child with the love he had for his latest girlfriend. Add to that the possibility that he held her responsible for his son's tragic and violent death, and it is not at all surprising that there are no foundations named after her, like there are for little Max. Why would there be?

Mrs. Holmes
10-24-2011, 11:32 AM
I don't think you can possibly compare the love he had for his youngest child with the love he had for his latest girlfriend. Add to that the possibility that he held her responsible for his son's tragic and violent death, and it is not at all surprising that there are no foundations named after her, like there are for little Max. Why would there be?

I agree, his acitons give more credence to the possibility that he had something to do with her death.

In essence, the more you truly love someone the less likely you are to jump to terrible conclusions and act on them.

I would have a hard time believing that someone I love and shared my life with harmed my child.

Max's death certainly looked like an accident upon face value.

SunnieRN
10-29-2011, 05:44 PM
This was initiated the day before they took Max off life support. The following day he had DL get Ocean out of the kennel. That is one cool customer. That would not have been what I was thinking about if I had just lost my beloved partner AND my youngest child. I would be a puddle on the floor. JMO.


IWannaKnow, the timing, as stated in your post seems to be quite a bit different, than a memorial to Max, after his death. This could, however give some reasoning behind Lubers presence in San Diego and at Childrens, despite the fact that Rebecca was supposedly 'banned' from visiting Max.

So, why set up the name change prior to Max being taken off life support? Wouldn't this mean that paperwork would have to be drawn up/signed during the shiva period?

Next, why would it be necessary for Luber to be in San Diego, as with fax machines, cell phones etc., this could have all been taken care of with him at home in AZ.

The Leiby Kletzky Memorial Fund:

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/07/22/3088661/parents-of-leiby-kletzky-release-statement-create-memorial-fund

Issued ONE DAY after sitting shiva. Was this a PR move?

Versus Jonah renaming the non profit PRIOR to his son actually dying, and prior to shiva. I find this unusual, or strange timing, if nothing else.