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Reader
12-27-2011, 12:36 AM
4 women found dead in car trunks; Detroit police tie 3 to escort services

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/26/9721677-4-women-found-dead-in-car-trunks-detroit-police-tie-3-to-escort-services

DETROIT -- The deaths of two women found inside a burning vehicle on Christmas morning are connected to the deaths a week earlier of two other women, Detroit's police chief said Monday.

All four deaths were ruled homicides and three of the four women were involved in an escort website, Police Chief Ralph Godbee told reporters.

Reader
12-27-2011, 12:42 AM
http://www.freep.com/article/20111226/NEWS01/111226006/detroit-women-found-in-trunk

One December week. Two car trunks. Four women dead.

Detroit police who found themselves investigating the strikingly-similar deaths this month may now be on the hunt for a killer targeting escorts.

Three of the four women found dead are linked to escort advertisements on Backpage.com, police said today.

The website offers dozens of come-hithers from metro Detroit escorts offering exotic fantasies and erotic playtime.

“This tie for us is disconcerting,” Detroit Police Chief Ralph Godbee Jr. said today. “We’re stopping short of calling it a serial pattern.”


More at link...

jjenny
12-27-2011, 12:59 AM
It sounds like a serial killer or a couple of them working together (since there were two women each time).

Norwegian
12-27-2011, 08:37 AM
When I read this I thought about Kalisha Madden who have not yet been found.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156191&highlight=kalisha

She wasn't an escort, but she was an exotic dancer.

tfrohning
12-27-2011, 02:41 PM
Demesha Hunt, 24; Renisha Landers, 23, found Dec. 19
Two more women, 28 and 29, found Dec. 25 in Detroit
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079002/Backpage-Killer-hunted-escorts-dead-cars-week-posting-online-ads.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

billisbobby
12-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Another heartbreaking story. I hope the perp is caught soon. He won't stop. imoo

Reader
12-27-2011, 09:35 PM
Detroit police: Killer may be targeting escorts

Some more information...the 2 new victims are not ID'd yet.

.........The latest victims were found Christmas morning, when Detroit firefighters discovered their badly burned bodies in the trunk of a car that had been set ablaze in a garage. They were identified as women ages 28 and 29, and police were awaiting a determination from the medical examiner's office on the exact cause of death.
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Relatives of Hunt, who had a 10-month-old daughter, and Landers did not immediately respond to messages from The Associated Press. Their mothers told the Detroit Free Press on Tuesday that the cousins weren't escorts.

"These were good girls. They were not on the streets. They had homes," said Landers' mother Chikita Madison.
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The attorneys general of Michigan and Illinois were among those across the country who wrote Backpage.com on Aug. 31 demanding that it show it was not promoting illegal sexual activity. Attorneys general and others had raised similar concerns about Craigslist, which agreed to close its adult services section last year.
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James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston who has written about serial killers, said Detroit police could be dealing with a case of a serial killer or a copycat double-killing. Because the bodies were found in pairs it's possible, he said, that more than one person was involved.

He said the women may have been killed elsewhere and their bodies dumped, a common way that serial killers operate. He noted that online ads for escort services are risky for those involved because they're dealing with strangers. And he said the police warnings for caution might not be heeded.

sherbetjello
12-28-2011, 02:32 AM
Who's cars are these?

Reader
12-28-2011, 03:08 AM
Who's cars are these?

This link doesn't state whose car the last 2 victims were found in; the first 2 victims were found in a car belonging to one of the victims. The sites were located only 3 blocks apart. All 4 deaths have been ruled homicides but no cause of deaths have been released yet.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/News/Detroit-police-chief-says-4-deaths-related/-/4714498/6891306/-/w6dxt5z/-/index.html


On Sunday, Detroit firefighters responded to a call on a fire at Lannette Street and Queen Street at about 1 a.m. The two bodies were found inside the trunk of a burning Buick LeSabre, which was inside the garage of a home.
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On Dec. 19, 23-year-old Renesha Landers and her 24-year-old cousin, Denesha Hunt, were found dead in the trunk of Landers' 2009 Chrysler 300 parked between abandoned houses on Promenade Avenue near Chalmers Street.


More at link with video....

Norwegian
12-28-2011, 03:50 AM
Mothers of Kalisha Madden and Cherice Gorden believes their daughters' disappearances are connected (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/2-mothers-believe-their-daughters-disappearances-are-connected-20111227-ms)


The link that has been brought to our attention where three of the four females have a connection to the website deal specifically with prearranged adult dating services or escort services," Detroit Police Chief Ralph Godbee said on Monday.

That page is backpage.com


The timing isn't the only coincidence. Both families are confident Kalisha and Cherice knew each other. At one time, they both danced at the same club on Detroit's east side and did private parties together.

mysteriew
12-28-2011, 01:04 PM
Mothers of missing Detroit women fear disappearances linked to string of escort murders

The mothers of Kalisha Madden, a mother of 6, and Cherice Gordon spoke to Fox 2 about their disappearances. Madden was last seen on November 28 and Gordon was last seen on November 30.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/12/mothers_of_missing_detroit_wom.html

mysteriew
12-28-2011, 01:12 PM
Mothers of 2 Detroit women found in trunk plead for public's help solving case

The mothers of two of the victims were stunned by this revelation, insisting their daughters were never caught up in the escort world, and that they were “good kids” who were targeted in a senseless crime.

snip....Meanwhile today, in a statement, Backpage.com legal counsel Steve Suskin said it's not clear which website the suspect used to potentially contact victims.

"Law enforcement authorities now have evidence that the investigation appears to connect to at least 30 different ads or other postings on at least 15 different websites, separate and distinct from ours," his statement said. "We are not aware of the existence of any evidence that would indicate which of these many sites were used by the suspect to establish contact with his victims."

http://www.freep.com/article/C4/20111227/NEWS01/111227036/Detroit-escorts-bodies-in-trunk?odyssey=nav%7Chead

seattlechiquita
12-28-2011, 01:18 PM
I also have a feeling this is related to Kalisha Maddens disappearance. I hope LE puts good work and effort into this. Sometimes women in adult entertaining or sex work are discarded even by LE.

mysteriew
12-28-2011, 01:19 PM
The deaths within a week of four women -- three of whom had advertised in an adult personals section of a website -- are being treated as the work of one person or group of people, Detroit's police chief said Tuesday.

"At this point, we are working it as one case or one suspect or set of suspects," Chief Ralph L. Godbee told CNN. "There are too many common links for us not to, at this point, work this as one single investigation."
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/27/justice/michigan-bodies-online-ads/?hpt=hp_t2

Looks like maybe we can move to serial killer forum. They are now acknowledging the cases are linked.

mysteriew
12-28-2011, 01:24 PM
This link doesn't state whose car the last 2 victims were found in; the first 2 victims were found in a car belonging to one of the victims. The sites were located only 3 blocks apart. All 4 deaths have been ruled homicides but no cause of deaths have been released yet.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/News/Detroit-police-chief-says-4-deaths-related/-/4714498/6891306/-/w6dxt5z/-/index.html


On Sunday, Detroit firefighters responded to a call on a fire at Lannette Street and Queen Street at about 1 a.m. The two bodies were found inside the trunk of a burning Buick LeSabre, which was inside the garage of a home.
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On Dec. 19, 23-year-old Renesha Landers and her 24-year-old cousin, Denesha Hunt, were found dead in the trunk of Landers' 2009 Chrysler 300 parked between abandoned houses on Promenade Avenue near Chalmers Street.


More at link with video....

"inside the trunk of a burning Buick LeSabre, which was inside the garage of a home."

Who owned/lived in the home?

not_my_kids
12-28-2011, 03:26 PM
MI seems to be picking up more serials. This series of murders, the serial slasher case in Flint, and the serial rapist earlier this year also in Detroit.

I won't speculate too much, but I do think that they need to be checking recent releases from prison. This guy/guys didn't just fall out of the sky or start killing with no warning.

Norwegian
12-28-2011, 05:33 PM
I've been surfing www.backpage.com and the escorts in Detroit today, trying to find Kalisha on there. Nothing yet.

I must say though, I'm seriously worried for some of these girls 18, 19 years of age who announces they are independent and drive alone...

SurfieTX
12-28-2011, 05:46 PM
Madden’s mother, Pamela Johnson, said she spoke to witnesses at the club who said Madden was last seen in a white Infiniti sport utility vehicle with three men.

http://www.freep.com/article/20111130/NEWS01/111130056/Family-seeks-public-s-help-find-missing-26-year-old-Detroit-woman?odyssey=nav|head

Is there a possible connection to the Buick or the home with this vehicle or persons in it that night? Any stolen cars that evening? That's a nice ride ^up there^...Infinity SUV.

Reader
12-28-2011, 06:45 PM
Medical examiner awaits dental records to confirm identities of 2 women found dead, burned in car trunk


http://www.freep.com/article/20111228/NEWS01/111228025/Detroit-trunk-death-women?odyssey=obinsite

........According to the Wayne County Medical Examiner’s Office, the victims’ identities still have not been confirmed as the office is awaiting dental records from the families, whose names have not been disclosed. The victims, 28 and 29, were discovered six days after police found two other women dead in a trunk, just blocks away from where the burn victims were found.

Detroit police have tied three of the victims to a website that advertises escort services, and fear the suspect, or suspects, could be targeting escorts. Still, police have stopped short of calling it a serial killing.
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In the latest investigative development, Detroit police said they are seeking warrants to search various IP addresses and cell phone numbers in connection with the deaths. Police would not say whose IP addresses or cell phone numbers they want to search.

As of midday today, police had not named any suspects.
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Police said there were no obvious signs of trauma to the bodies of Hunt and Landers. A cause of death for those victims has not been determined while police await toxicology results.



More at link...


Sounds like LE is narrowing in on a suspect or suspects....

Reader
12-28-2011, 07:01 PM
"inside the trunk of a burning Buick LeSabre, which was inside the garage of a home."

Who owned/lived in the home?


That information hasn't been released by LE as yet and it doesn't seem that the home owners are suspects.

Reader
12-28-2011, 07:04 PM
Mothers of missing Detroit women fear disappearances linked to string of escort murders

The mothers of Kalisha Madden, a mother of 6, and Cherice Gordon spoke to Fox 2 about their disappearances. Madden was last seen on November 28 and Gordon was last seen on November 30.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/12/mothers_of_missing_detroit_wom.html

So far LE has not mentioned the Madden or Gordon cases as connected to these other 4 women, although it does seem probable...

SurfieTX
12-28-2011, 07:11 PM
I've been surfing www.backpage.com and the escorts in Detroit today, trying to find Kalisha on there. Nothing yet.

I must say though, I'm seriously worried for some of these girls 18, 19 years of age who announces they are independent and drive alone...

I just read a FB post on the Find Kalisha page that she was advertising there. One nickname that I know of that she used was Mocha.

mysteriew
12-29-2011, 02:43 AM
Chikita Madison couldn't hold back the tears as she recalled her recent car shopping trip with her daughter.

It was a Friday, Dec. 9, when Renisha Landers, 23, an assembly-line worker at a Chrysler plant in Sterling Heights, went to a dealership with her mom to buy a Chrysler 300.
http://www.freep.com/article/20111228/NEWS01/112280398

That was the car she was found in.

Norwegian
12-29-2011, 06:40 AM
I just read a FB post on the Find Kalisha page that she was advertising there. One nickname that I know of that she used was Mocha.

In backpage.com one can use search words to find different things, I've used "mocha", tried the club she danced at, different spellings of her name etc. I've also gone through hundreds of ads looking at the pics only, but I could not recognize Miss Madden in any of those. But it could still be, because some girls only post pics of their bodyparts...

It's really awful. Most of the girls on backpage.com are so young and most of them are really gorgeous girls.

mysteriew
12-29-2011, 10:43 AM
I usually enjoy the freedom of LE giving out info on cases. But I do wonder about this one. Ok it is believed that the suspect made contact with the women on backpage. It is now known that LE is watching that site. I don't believe the killer will stop killing, so I think he will just move on to another way to make contact. And this time LE won't have the head start of knowing how he is making contact.

Reader
12-30-2011, 12:06 AM
I usually enjoy the freedom of LE giving out info on cases. But I do wonder about this one. Ok it is believed that the suspect made contact with the women on backpage. It is now known that LE is watching that site. I don't believe the killer will stop killing, so I think he will just move on to another way to make contact. And this time LE won't have the head start of knowing how he is making contact.

In the link above it states:

"According to Backpage.com, one of the victims was connected to at least 30 different escort ads or postings on at least 15 different websites, separate from Backpage.com.

In a statement issued late Tuesday, the company said: "Our team has already provided the police with detailed information about the ads that the suspect or others posted on numerous websites. Law enforcement authorities now have evidence that the investigation appears to connect to at least 30 different ads or other postings on at least 15 different websites, separate and distinct from ours. We are not aware of the existence of any evidence that would indicate which of these many sites were used by the suspect to establish contact with his victims."

Hopefully this info will help LE track down the person/people who did this.

mysteriew
12-30-2011, 01:34 AM
Backpage.com, a classified advertising website, said today that computer and forensic evidence shows at least 70 different escort ads on 22 websites are linked to the investigation involving four women whose bodies were found in the trunks of cars in Detroit recently.
http://www.freep.com/article/20111229/NEWS01/111229023/Backpage-com-says-22-more-websites-are-linked-to-dead-Detroit-women?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

otto
12-30-2011, 02:25 AM
This is a pretty weird story. I wonder if there will be two more on NYE. I hope women travel in fours rather than twos that night.

jjenny
12-30-2011, 03:28 AM
Backpage.com, a classified advertising website, said today that computer and forensic evidence shows at least 70 different escort ads on 22 websites are linked to the investigation involving four women whose bodies were found in the trunks of cars in Detroit recently.
http://www.freep.com/article/20111229/NEWS01/111229023/Backpage-com-says-22-more-websites-are-linked-to-dead-Detroit-women?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

This might make it harder to stop the killer(s).

SurfieTX
12-30-2011, 10:39 AM
One of those women has been identified as 29-year-old Vernithea McCrary. The other's name has not yet been released, pending confirmation of her identitity.

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/police-investigate-more-than-a-dozen-websites-in-womens-murders#ixzz1i1r7KKxh

mysteriew
12-30-2011, 05:47 PM
The 28-year-old woman who was found with her has yet to be identified, but family members of Natasha Curtis said they fear she is the second victim.
http://www.freep.com/article/20111230/NEWS01/111230015/Another-Detroit-woman-identified-in-escort-investigation?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CF RONTPAGE

mysteriew
12-30-2011, 06:08 PM
Things I am not clear about.

Of the two sets of women, were both sets known to be together before they were found dead together? Were they last seen together? Is it even known if they knew each other?

How long between the time the women were last seen and when they were thought to have died? Hours? Days? Were there any signs of torture?

Have the families had any contact from the women or the suspect? I noticed in the above article that Curtis (feared to be the other woman with McCrary) left the home about 8 pm, and called her boyfriend two hours later to tell him she loved him. Have any of the others done anything similar?

Have there been a recent increase of single prostitutes showing up dead in the area? For a murderer to start off killing two prostitutes at a time, it doesn't seem like they would start that way. Maybe one or two singles prior then on the doubles.

IF I was posted on backpage, and IF I was in the business I think I would be calling LE if one of my contacts asked for a double date.

mysteriew
12-31-2011, 10:22 AM
Friends of one of the women found in the trunk of a burned out car talk about their loss

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/friends-of-the-one-of-the-women-found-in-the-trunk-of-a-burned-out-car-are-talking-about-their-loss#ixzz1i7dNcrJ3

Vernithea McCrary was a mother of three.

Cazzie
12-31-2011, 10:35 AM
One of those women has been identified as 29-year-old Vernithea McCrary. The other's name has not yet been released, pending confirmation of her identitity.

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/police-investigate-more-than-a-dozen-websites-in-womens-murders#ixzz1i1r7KKxh
It might have been in this article (or another posted upthread) where it says that a family member says that their missing female loved one left with McCrary, and that's why they think she is the un-ID'd body. :(

I wish that women would realize what a dangerous professtion the sex trades are...not blaming them, just sad for them. :(

fran
12-31-2011, 12:16 PM
1 body found in trunk ID'd, other tentatively

Two young mothers headed out for a night on the town Dec. 23.

Natasha Curtis, who was turning 29 the next day, left with her friend Vernithea McCrary, 28, about 8 p.m., Curtis' longtime boyfriend, Cortez Wingfield, told the Free Press

more at link .......................http://www.freep.com/article/20111231/NEWS02/112310392/1-body-found-in-trunk-ID-d-other-tentatively

mysteriew
12-31-2011, 01:13 PM
1 body found in trunk ID'd, other tentatively

Two young mothers headed out for a night on the town Dec. 23.

Natasha Curtis, who was turning 29 the next day, left with her friend Vernithea McCrary, 28, about 8 p.m., Curtis' longtime boyfriend, Cortez Wingfield, told the Free Press

more at link .......................http://www.freep.com/article/20111231/NEWS02/112310392/1-body-found-in-trunk-ID-d-other-tentatively

And Curtis was pregnant.

LE is saying there were no signs of trauma on any of the victims. So I am thinking drug OD (like maybe a stronger/purer dose than typical) or suffication. With Curtis being pregnant, and with the number of women dying I am leaning more towards suffocation or forced ingestion of drugs.

fran
12-31-2011, 02:00 PM
You could very well be correct mysteriew . It may be a 'too strong' dose of coke or heroine or something of that nature. It appears LE is thinking it has something to do with the drugs per the below interview from Dec. 25th. They're attempting to fast-track the toxicology reports.

Wonder what the view is on the street? Although we out here in the public don't always hear about it, when there's a lethal dose of whatever making the rounds, LE and the 'street' knows about it.

I think I'm going to move this thread over to the 'Serial Killer' forum. LE is handling these cases together. Let's hope the body count doesn't rise. :(

fran


http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/News/Detroit-police-chief-says-4-murders-related/-/4714498/6891306/-/21iskk/-/index.html

Murder victims all women in their 20s

Reannan
12-31-2011, 02:20 PM
Interesting that this case has 4 victims, killed in sets of two. Drugs are a definite possibility, but why was one set of victims burned, and the other set was not? Burning did not help to prevent identification. It sort of has the feel of a "warning" to someone - a rival... what??? A rival john, pimp, drug dealer??? It also seems like it would be hard for a single killer to control 2 women at one time. Sad case....

mysteriew
12-31-2011, 05:12 PM
Opinion piece criticizing LE for stopping short of admitting there is a serial killer on the loose. And also a cautionary piece.

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/bloggers-believe-recent-murders-are-work-of-serial-killer

Reader
12-31-2011, 09:33 PM
Opinion piece criticizing LE for stopping short of admitting there is a serial killer on the loose. And also a cautionary piece.

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/bloggers-believe-recent-murders-are-work-of-serial-killer

From your link, this is scary:

If you look through the history of serial killers, they may start with one particular kind of person but then if the escorts stop showing up, they may migrate to something else.”

Nemecek adds what’s important at this stage is that more people who consider looking to the web for friendship or companionship may think twice for now.
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Detroit Police say there are no new leads in the investigations of the murders of these four women, at least not that they're talking about.

They are still waiting for test results and hoping that people will call homicide investigators with important information.

I'm anxious about New Year's Eve...hope that women there will take this warning to heart and will be safe tonite!

mysteriew
01-01-2012, 01:44 AM
Victimology shows more commonalities


Two of the four victims were about to celebrate their birthdays. All four women were in their 20s. And three of the four women had children, with Natasha Curtis, the last victim to be tentively ID'd, just a few weeks into her third pregnancy per her boyfriend of nine years, Cortez Wingfield.
http://www.examiner.com/criminal-profiles-in-national/detroit-trunk-murders-me-id-s-another-body-women-had-more-common

The article also points out some things that weren't common in the two sets of murders.

Reader
01-02-2012, 02:46 AM
Interesting article, mysteriew...thanks!


I've been checking the Detroit news and haven't seen any report about 2 women being killed together or in cars/trunks on NYE or tonite.

Hope the LE can make progress on the case and make an arrest soon.

mysteriew
01-04-2012, 02:35 AM
Authorities identify fourth woman in murders; all four victims found in car trunks

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/police-identify-fourth-woman-in-murders-where-victims-were-found-in-trunks#ixzz1iT7rdRPW

It was Natasha Curtis

mysteriew
01-04-2012, 01:53 PM
Spokesman Dennis Niemiec says more test results are needed before the causes of death can be determined for all the women.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/5c18618714d740bdbc069623303ca13d/MI--Trunk-Bodies-Escort-Ads/

BetteDavisEyes
01-04-2012, 09:16 PM
I was unaware of this Serial Killer forum and have been posting updates about the Detroit women on the Kalisha Madden thread on the Missing forum. Rather than selectively moving my posts and putting them here, I'm providing the link to that thread. There might be some media reports that aren't posted here.

MI MI - Kalisha Madden, 27, Detroit, 27 Nov 2011 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

mysteriew
01-07-2012, 12:34 AM
Thanks BetteDavisEyes! She went missing Nov. 28. Do you know who her friend that went missing is? And when did the friend go missing?


Pamela Johnson, Madden's mother, said the 26-year-old mother of six was last seen leaving a club on the 6600 block of Michigan Avenue. After her daughter disappeared, Johnson said she learned that another dancer -- one of her daughter's friends -- also went missing.
http://www.freep.com/article/20120106/NEWS01/201060479/Dozens-pray-for-missing-mom-of-6-other-women-working-in-sex-industry

mysteriew
01-07-2012, 06:56 PM
This is from missing person Kalisha Madden's case. Note that Madden has not been associated with this case as yet. But in the previous article Kalisha's mother indicated that one of Kalisha's friend's are missing too.


"Witnesses state that she was seen leaving with a gentleman named Benny. They say he walks on crutches. There was a tall guy that had individual braids. My daughter had partied with them all night. She was comfortable," Johnson explained.

Madden hasn't been seen since.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/leads-in-missing-detroit-dancer-case-go-nowhere-20120103-ms

Incidently the article also indicates that Madden's family has been told that the leads in her case haven't panned out or led anywhere so that her case is being put onto a back burner.

This thought has crossed my mind. The other women were found in the trunks of their vehicles. I wonder if anyone has thought to even run the licene plate numbers for these two women? It is entirely possible that for some reason these women were in the trunk of a vehicle that was illegally parked and was towed to an impound lot.

Reader
01-08-2012, 08:31 PM
This is from missing person Kalisha Madden's case. Note that Madden has not been associated with this case as yet. But in the previous article Kalisha's mother indicated that one of Kalisha's friend's are missing too.



Incidently the article also indicates that Madden's family has been told that the leads in her case haven't panned out or led anywhere so that her case is being put onto a back burner.

This thought has crossed my mind. The other women were found in the trunks of their vehicles. I wonder if anyone has thought to even run the licene plate numbers for these two women? It is entirely possible that for some reason these women were in the trunk of a vehicle that was illegally parked and was towed to an impound lot.

That's a good idea, mysteriew, I hope that LE has or will do that...also to not be linked to the case for these 4 women, I guess neither of them had any ads on Backpage or other escort sites?

BTW, in this article before Natasha Curtis was identified, it does state the 2 women were found in McCrary's vehicle (I think this was a question asked):

http://www.freep.com/article/20111230/NEWS01/111230015

"The medical examiner's office has not yet positively identified Curtis using dental records, but loved ones say they believe it is her because the women were found in McCrary's 1997 Buick LeSabre parked in a garage in the 14900 block of Lannette."

mysteriew
01-10-2012, 07:21 PM
Woman Finds Herself in Bogus Escort Ad on Backpage.com

A local woman was shocked to find a bogus online ad promoting her as a prostitute, complete with private photos published for all to see.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/woman-finds-herself-in-bogus-escort-ad-on-backpage-com-20120110

Sounds like someone is angry with her. And I would guess that that someone is about to be arrested.

fran
01-17-2012, 01:09 AM
They did positively identify Natasha Curtis. :(

fran


Authorities identify fourth woman in murders; all four victims found in car trunks

Read full article: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/police-identify-fourth-woman-in-murders-where-victims-were-found-in-trunks#ixzz1jgnCcOt4

mysteriew
01-19-2012, 01:07 PM
Looks like they have found another commonality for the victims and another murder, and with that came another possible victim.


On Jan. 17, 2012 news about yet another Detroit woman's murder began making headlines when it was learned that she, too, had been at the Blackberry Bar and Grill, where two other women in their 20's had last been known to be before being found dead on Detroit's east side of town.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Detroit car trunk murders: Backpage link now joined by Blackberry Bar and Grill? - National Criminal Profiles | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/criminal-profiles-in-national/detroit-car-trunk-murders-backpage-link-now-joined-by-blackberry-bar-and-grill#ixzz1jvP1sdBz

It seems so iffy to me. Two of the women had been seen at the bar shortly before their death. This new victim had also been seen at the bar before her death. She was later found shot, and not in a car trunk.

fran
01-20-2012, 12:35 PM
I'll hold judgement on if the last woman was connected to these trunk murders. I think it was just a crime of opportunity and coincidence she had just left the same bar as two of the previous victims.

OTOH, trying to tie the bar to the two known victims seems like grasping at straws, imho. After all, they were together, so yeah, they were both last seen at the same location alive, before they were later found again together, murdered in the trunk.

I think whoever wrote this article was just trying to write something about the case and made this up. It's not factual, IMHO.

JMHO
fran

mysteriew
02-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Detroit Police seek public's help to solve murders of women linked to escort site

Police on Friday urged the public and those who've used the Internet site backpage.com for escort services to come forward with information in the unsolved murders of four women whose bodies were found in car trunks on the city's east side in December.
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120203/METRO01/202030447/1409/metro/Detroit-Police-seek-public-s-help-solve-murders-women-linked-escort-site

mysteriew
03-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Detroit police are narrowing their search for two women who have been missing for a week, after being abducted from their Hamtramck home.

snip...The two best friends haven’t been heard from since Conaway sent a text message saying they were locked in the trunk of a car.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/06/police-search-for-any-sign-of-missing-women-from-hamtramck/

Police probe report of gunshots, burned car in missing Hamtramck women case
http://www.freep.com/article/20120302/NEWS02/120302032/vigil-Abreeya-Brown-Ashley-Conaway-missing-Hamtramck

Car found on Detroit’s west side connected to missing women from Hamtramck
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/news/Car-found-on-Detroit-s-west-side-connected-to-missing-women-from-Hamtramck/-/4714498/9199158/-/smex5ez/-/

Burned out car tied to kidnapping of two Hamtramck women

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/wayne_county/burned-out-car-may-be-connection-to-missing-hamtramck-women#ixzz1oN0RPyDb

mysteriew
03-06-2012, 04:30 PM
One of three men sought by police in the reported kidnapping of two Hamtramck women has been charged in an earlier shooting.

snip.....A friend of 18-year-old Abreeya Brown and 21-year-old Ashley Conaway said Cain allegedly got upset when the women left his home on the city’s westside on Feb. 8. Detroit Police say it’s alleged that Cain ordered a known black male to fire shots at the women. One of the bullets grazed Conaway in the head.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/02/man-linked-to-missing-women-charged-in-shooting/

So this case may or may not be related to the others. It could very well be a copycat to coverup the abduction of his girlfriend.


Citizens Join Search For Kidnapped Women
Meantime, as the anxious families await word on the missing women, some community groups are taking matters into their own hands.

Community activist Brenda Hill was part of a small but determined group who gathered in Hamtramck to help in the search.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/01/citizens-join-search-for-kidnapped-women/

bessie
03-10-2012, 03:23 AM
I just heard about this case. I haven't read all of the articles yet, but this is horrible.

mysteriew
03-26-2012, 09:49 PM
Two Detroit women who were abducted last month may have revealed their captors' identities by text-messaging relatives from inside the trunk of a car, as authorities confirmed Monday that their bodies were found in a shallow grave.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/26/female-bodies-found-in-detroit-shallow-grave-likely-to-be-two-missing-friends/

Reader
03-27-2012, 05:09 PM
Thank you, mysteriew, so very sad, two young lives lost to cover up an earlier crime, how stupid and I hope these men rot the rest of their lives in prison. From your link:


Witnesses say the two housemates were forced into a car trunk at gunpoint nearly a month ago, and they were found dead Sunday gagged and bound with duct tape. Both were shot in the head, Blackwell said. Their bodies were clothed when they were found.

The cause of death was homicide, Blackwell said.

Brown and Conaway were grabbed Feb. 28 from their front porch by two men who traded bullets with Brown's stepfather before getting away, according to relatives. In what may have been a final, frantic act, Conaway texted relatives an hour later, saying they were trapped in the trunk of a car. They were never seen again.

Relatives said the women named their abductors in the text messages, and police have zeroed in on two men who have been named as persons of interest.

One, Brian Christopher Lee, 24, was to appear Monday morning before Judge Roberta Archer on attempted murder charges from a Feb. 8 incident in which he allegedly shot and wounded Conaway, but that hearing was postponed unti Friday.

Lee, along with Brandon Cain, 26, Conaway's ex-boyfriend and a co-defendant in the Feb. 8 shooting, are persons of interest in the disappearance of the two women.

"We should not lose our daughters to evil and nasty men," Latrina Conaway, mother of Ashley Conaway, told the Detroit News. "Two beautiful young women who never had the opportunity to grow, to have families, to have life. It's just a shame. Everyone should be touched by this traumatic thing.

I also wonder if the previous crimes were something similar...to cover up something the women knew about that was dangerous for somebody?

fran
04-07-2012, 01:11 PM
5 men charged in slayings of 2 Michigan women

story at link .............http://news.yahoo.com/5-men-charged-slayings-2-michigan-women-142716866.html

Reannan
04-07-2012, 01:39 PM
What a sad case!!! These women were trying to 'do the right thing', and they tried to let someone know where they were after they were abducted. Two brave women - FIVE spineless excuses for humanity arrested for taking their lives. For these five outstanding citizens, I hope they get everything plus some coming to them in prison. :furious:

mysteriew
04-07-2012, 03:41 PM
5 men charged in slayings of 2 Michigan women

story at link .............http://news.yahoo.com/5-men-charged-slayings-2-michigan-women-142716866.html

My question is did these 5 men commit these murders and try to copycat the other murders? Or were they somehow involved in the other murders too?

And I do have a comment on the men. It was two young women. And 5 men involved in the murders somehow. 5 men/2 women. They must have been very powerful women.

fran
04-09-2012, 02:17 AM
Lots of info at below link. At least one arraignment tomorrow.

fran


5 men charged in slayings of Hamtramck women


http://www.freep.com/article/20120407/NEWS02/120407011/5-men-charged-in-slayings-of-Hamtramck-women

Reader
05-01-2012, 08:53 PM
2 men held, questioned in Detroit escort slayings

http://www.centurylink.net/news/read.php?id=18920175&ps=1011&srce=news_class&action=2&lang=en&_LT=UNLC_USNWU00L2_UNEWS

DETROIT (AP) — Two men were held for questioning Tuesday as part of an investigation into the slayings of four Detroit women whose bodies were found in car trunks after three of them placed online escort ads, police said.

The men, ages 32 and 24, were arrested Tuesday morning by members of a federal and local law enforcement task force in Sterling Heights, a mostly middle-class community north of Detroit. They had not been charged by late afternoon, Detroit police Sgt. Eren Stephens said. Police also searched a Sterling Heights home.

More at link.....

mysteriew
05-01-2012, 10:25 PM
Inspector Dwane Blackmon, of Detroit’s homicide unit, said the men, who have not been identified, are considered persons of interest.

“We see a direct link between them and the girls,” he said, declining to go into specifics.
http://www.freep.com/article/20120501/NEWS01/120501062/Detroit-murders-women-found-in-trunks?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7 Cs

Reader
05-05-2012, 06:38 PM
Man charged with moving bodies of 4 Detroit women

http://www.centurylink.net/news/read.php?id=18925091&ps=1011&cat=&cps=0&lang=en

DETROIT (AP) — ............

Police Chief Ralph Godbee described James Brown as the "main culprit," but Brown was not charged with killing the women. The Sterling Heights man was arraigned on charges of moving the bodies and arson, and bond was set at $1 million.............

Godbee suggested that the only barrier to murder charges is deciding where to file them. He believes the women were not killed in Detroit and possibly not in Wayne County. The Wayne County prosecutor's office handles crimes committed in Detroit..........

"We're not anybody's dumping ground for homicides. ... We feel very confident that we've closed this case," Godbee said at a news conference.


More at link.....

Kat
05-07-2012, 12:22 PM
I'm bringing this here because I saw it on DM while reading something else.

Pictures of four victims. Such young, vibrant beautiful women.

Prayers for their families and may justice be served.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140413/Man-charged-murder-women-dead-car-trunks-selling-sex-internet.html

TxJan1971
05-07-2012, 07:02 PM
James Brown (24) charged in Backpage.com murders

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/05/man-charged-in-backpage-com-murders/

mysteriew
05-09-2012, 02:38 PM
It is good to see that there is movement on the case. But they still haven't charged anyone with murder. From the way they are talking, it feels like there is something going on in the background, but I am not sure what.

I can't believe they gave him bond, even if it was a high bond.

mysteriew
06-04-2012, 06:36 PM
TexasRanger posted this in Crimes In The News. Still no murder charges



Man linked to Backpage.com killings charged with mutilation, arson

James Brown accused of moving 4 victims' bodies, all of which were linked to Internet escort sex ads
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/news/Man-linked-to-Backpage-com-killings-charged-with-mutilation-arson/-/4714498/14422154/-/tq9208/-/index.html?hpt=ju_bn5

JoeFromLB
11-26-2012, 01:01 PM
Brown has finally been charged with murder, and has pleaded not guilty.
According to his lawyer, he may have incriminated himself during a videotaped interview with police earlier this year.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57554090-504083/suspect-james-brown-charged-with-murdering-4-detroit-women-found-in-car-trunks/

fran
03-08-2014, 03:36 PM
Man convicted of killing 4 women from escort site

Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:16 PM

MOUNT CLEMENS, Mich. — A jury Friday convicted a Detroit-area man of killing four women who went to his home after connecting through online escort ads.

Police said James Brown killed the women in pairs, just days apart, at his Sterling Heights home in December 2011. The bodies were stuffed in car trunks and left miles away in a Detroit neighborhood. Two were burned beyond recognition.

more at link .................. http://www.azcentral.com/news/free/20140228michigan-man-convicted-killing-women-from-escort-site.html?odyssey=obinsite