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Blue_Dolphin308
02-06-2012, 11:55 PM
BenWinslow (http://twitter.com/BenWinslow) Ben Winslow



"We have circumstantial evidence that I'm not allowed to talk about," Nielsen said of a pending arrest.

http://twitter.com/benwinslow

SuziQ
02-07-2012, 12:24 AM
BenWinslow (http://twitter.com/BenWinslow) Ben Winslow



"We have circumstantial evidence that I'm not allowed to talk about," Nielsen said of a pending arrest.

http://twitter.com/benwinslow

Is Nielsen with WVCPD?

ETA: Nevermind. Saw on Ben's Twitter he is WVCPD.

SuziQ
02-07-2012, 12:28 AM
BenWinslow (http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow)Ben Winslow



"We were making progress" towards an arrest, Nielsen says. @fox13now (http://twitter.com/fox13now) #findsusan (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23findsusan) #Utah (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Utah)

SuziQ
02-07-2012, 12:29 AM
BenWinslow (http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow)Ben Winslow



Steve Powell WILL be questioned by #WVC (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WVC) PD in connection with the disappearance of Susan Powell. @fox13now (http://twitter.com/fox13now) #findsusan (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23findsusan) #Utah (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Utah)

SuziQ
02-07-2012, 12:30 AM
BenWinslow (http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow)Ben Winslow



Is there anyone else who knows anything about Susan's disappearance? Yes. Steven? No comment. @fox13now (http://twitter.com/fox13now) #findsusan (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23findsusan) #Utah (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Utah)

hollyblue
02-07-2012, 01:13 AM
Will SP's lawyers allow him to talk to investigators?

Kimster
02-07-2012, 10:17 AM
Has there been a report that JP was in contact with his father at all in the days leading to the evil event? I'm wondering if there was a conversation between the two of them and if SP knew what was about to occur.

I also wonder about SP's possible involvement in Susan's disappearance. I do believe that he knows what happened to her, but not sure if he actually met JP that night. Either the boys didn't mention it, or LE is keeping that under wraps for now.

nursebeeme
02-07-2012, 10:22 AM
Nielsen vowed his department would continue investigating Susan Powell’s disappearance. He said he hopes someone who was afraid to speak when Josh Powell was alive will come forward, and he didn’t rule out charging someone as an accomplice in Susan Powell’s disappearance or death.When asked if Josh Powell’s father, Steve Powell, might be an accomplice, Nielsen replied, "Absolutely."

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53458158-78/powell-josh-police-nielsen.html.csp

alwaysonmymind
02-07-2012, 10:46 AM
Steven Powell now named as Person of Interest

Steven Powell has now been named a person of interest in the disappearance of Susan Powell, according to Seattle's Q13 FOX News, which reports that he was not overly emotional when he heard the news of the explosion, and has been uncooperative with Pierce County deputies. He is currently on suicide watch

http://gma.yahoo.com/josh-powells-final-message-am-not-able-live-092354999--abc-news.html

TallCoolOne
02-07-2012, 11:13 AM
Well, we sure didn't see this coming....... /sarcasm.

Can we join in the suicide watch? <evil grin>

Jacie Estes
02-07-2012, 11:26 AM
Is there a final e-mail from joshie for daddy? It would be in an account that he knew daddy could retreive at some time. IF daddy is the puppetmaster , then joshie would want that final approval. I hope it is out there and they find it.

As for daddy; let WA LE take a page from the jurisdiction that put the man in solitary confinement for 2 years and lost him.

nursebeeme
02-07-2012, 11:32 AM
Is there a final e-mail from joshie for daddy? It would be in an account that he knew daddy could retreive at some time. IF daddy is the puppetmaster , then joshie would want that final approval. I hope it is out there and they find it.

As for daddy; let WA LE take a page from the jurisdiction that put the man in solitary confnemnet for 2 years and lost him.
bbm: I wouldn't be surprised to hear in the coming days that a paper letter is confiscated at the prison

:twocents:

Kimster
02-07-2012, 03:35 PM
Pierce County deputies said Steven was uncooperative with questions about the explosion and was not overly emotional.<snipped>

http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2012/02/07/jailed-father-of-josh-powell-now-a-person-of-interest-in-susan-cox-powells-disappearance-placed-on-suicide-watch

dog.gone.cute
02-07-2012, 03:45 PM
:innocent: This might be a "dumb" question ... but was Josh visiting daddy dearest in jail ?

And if JP was visiting him, when was the last time he went to see him ?

TIA !

Kimster
02-07-2012, 03:47 PM
:innocent: This might be a "dumb" question ... but was Josh visiting daddy dearest in jail ?

And if JP was visiting him, when was the last time he went to see him ?

TIA !

It's not dumb at all! I want to know the exact same thing! Hopefully one of the reporters is reading here and will ask someone who knows and report on it.

dog.gone.cute
02-07-2012, 04:12 PM
It's not dumb at all! I want to know the exact same thing! Hopefully one of the reporters is reading here and will ask someone who knows and report on it.


Thank You !

:waitasec: I guess I will be surprised if he was not visiting daddy.

:waitasec:

jjenny
02-07-2012, 04:13 PM
Did he send any letters or make any phone calls to his father? I believe the phone calls are recorded, are they not?

CHERIE.T
02-07-2012, 04:22 PM
I don't understand how a person could not be overly emotional about his son and grandsons deaths. Could S have known about J's plan before hand?

imho

21merc7
02-07-2012, 04:31 PM
Did he send any letters or make any phone calls to his father? I believe the phone calls are recorded, are they not?

Yes they are, and the mail is monitored. Especially with a missing person/murder/child porn case going on.

mck16
02-07-2012, 04:39 PM
This may have been answererd and I missed it.

The picture of the woman's torso with the saber that they found at Josh's. When they say torso, do they literally mean it was headless? And was the saber internal or was it just lying on the torso? Sorry for being graphic. tia

21merc7
02-07-2012, 04:46 PM
This may have been answererd and I missed it.

The picture of the woman's torso with the saber that they found at Josh's. When they say torso, do they literally mean it was headless? And was the saber internal or was it just lying on the torso? Sorry for being graphic. tia

Article:

"It was "a picture, depicting the torso of a woman with a sword from her vagina up to her heart," says Steve Downing, the Cox family attorney."

http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=138831984&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212

mamamia54
02-07-2012, 04:53 PM
Article:

"It was "a picture, depicting the torso of a woman with a sword from her vagina up to her heart," says Steve Downing, the Cox family attorney."

http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=138831984&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212

Even the term masochistic doesn't fit the bill on that photo. Why would someone have a photo like that? Discusting!!

AngelWings444
02-07-2012, 04:58 PM
This gives me hope that Susan might be brought home to rest next to her boys. Hoping and praying Josh said/wrote or emailed something to directly implicate his "father" and someone it leads to Susan's body. :please:

mck16
02-07-2012, 05:21 PM
Article:

"It was "a picture, depicting the torso of a woman with a sword from her vagina up to her heart," says Steve Downing, the Cox family attorney."

http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=138831984&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212

Thank you and yes I know this, but my question was: did the woman have no head, and was the sword internal or external. In other words had she been beheaded and impaled on the sword? tia

21merc7
02-07-2012, 05:22 PM
Thank you and yes I know this, but my question was: did the woman have no head, and was the sword internal or external. In other words had she been beheaded and impaled on the sword? tia

I don't think we know anymore details.

ami
02-07-2012, 05:26 PM
Article:

"It was "a picture, depicting the torso of a woman with a sword from her vagina up to her heart," says Steve Downing, the Cox family attorney."

http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=138831984&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212

I guess he meant "pubic region" and that her face wasn't shown.

Melanie
02-07-2012, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't be suprised at all to find out SP was involved in Susan's disappearance. Now if he would only talk!

MOO

Mel

SuziQ
02-07-2012, 05:30 PM
The article today the pic information came from is incorrect. IIRC, this was not a pic of a real person. It was a cartoon like poster on the wall. It was found during a search warrant LE executed last summer. jIt is not part of the pictures that WVCPD found on Josh's computer that were discussed in court last week.

mck16
02-07-2012, 05:30 PM
I wouldn't be suprised at all to find out SP was involved in Susan's disappearance. Now if he would only talk!

MOO

Mel

I totally agree with you. And I wouldn't be surprised if what Josh did was not his fathers idea or he at least had some input..jmo

mck16
02-07-2012, 05:32 PM
The article today the pic information came from is incorrect. IIRC, this was not a pic of a real person. It was a cartoon like poster on the wall. It was found during a search warrant LE executed last summer. jIt is not part of the pictures that WVCPD found on Josh's computer that were discussed in court last week.

So, we don't really know what the picture or pictures were of.

SuziQ
02-07-2012, 05:35 PM
So, we don't really know what the picture or pictures were of.

The pictures off of Josh's computer that were discussed in court last week? Nope.

Mohabi
02-07-2012, 05:44 PM
Now imagine if it was "just" Josh's father all along....

TotallyObsessed
02-07-2012, 05:48 PM
Now imagine if it was "just" Josh's father all along....

That would still leave the "camping trip in the middle of a blizzard" which IMO is just too bizzarre for JP NOT to have been guilty.

jjenny
02-07-2012, 06:22 PM
And his father wasn't even living in the same state, for crying out loud.

passionflower
02-07-2012, 10:26 PM
how old is this old man?
If he pleads for lesser time with Susan's disappearance,
I hope he just dies in prison.

jjenny
02-07-2012, 10:26 PM
how old is this old man?
If he pleads for lesser time with Susan's disappearance,
I hope he just dies in prison.

I think the only way he could get lesser time is if he knows where the body is. What else of value could he possibly provide? JP is dead.

dovebar
02-08-2012, 01:06 AM
I'll believe an arrest when I see it. IMO, the Utah police botched this from the start and they have been shining the Cox's on, promising things they had no way to deliver on, to keep them quiet and from taking further to the media.

It sure would be interesting to have some info on the West Valley PD, like how many female officers, and what is their success rate at clearing serious cases like this.

Ditto the Washington Social Services. They all deserve to be under some serious scrutiny. Charlie and Braden trusted them, as did the Cox's, they complied with everything asked of them, and their sick, twisted "father" wasn't even under surveillance and had clear access to them just by slamming a door. Disgusting.

cluciano63
02-08-2012, 01:26 AM
Do we know if SP received some last minute info from JP that could implicate SP?

If not, why would LE be talking about a possible arrest at this time? Is this a move to placate the community? I don't understand, unless new evidence came at the time of JP's murderous rampage, or since then, why the timing would be now. JMO

sherryk
02-08-2012, 01:36 AM
I can not find a forum to post this question or comment.. this seems to be the closest I can find... Steven Powell the father.. what could he know.

a few things come to mind.. first being it is reported that JP left instuctions how to disconnect the electic.. why HE knew there would be nothing left of the home to disconnect.. it would burn down.... could that been some kind of coded message to father.. who was the information on how to disconnect electic sent to???

It is now being reported that 7000.00 was withdrawn from JP account the day or days before this tragedy happened.. where did the funds go.. could that of been a code to dad to get word to family on where to find the 7000.00?

What was the point of the withdrawl.. did he think that somehow the Cox family would get their hands on it?

I am very concerned on the electric disconnection.. and the fact that the father didnt seem suprised and cursed out the officers who told him of the news.

I bet anything that 7k shows up in the mail at a realtive home and it is for legal fees for dear old dad.. JMO

why the electriciy instructions if the house was to burn..

These things are some type of clues.. dont know what.. but it is

SmoothOperator
02-08-2012, 01:56 AM
Excellent points and questions sherryk..

I too questioned and pondered on the whole leaving instructions about the "utilities".. IMO I'm not one who looks for hidden meanings, conspiracies, etc.. I'm Just not like that in way overanalyzing issues or details.. But yet I cannot see any meaning for the utilities issue.. It just is a huge red flag saying look at me flapping bright red in the wind.. And I wonder what it's actual meaning is..

As far as $7,000.00 and JP withdrawing the 7grand outta the bank prior to his explosive ending in going out with a *bang*.. Where in the hell-o did $7,000.00 cash come from to be in JP's bank acct?? I mean the man has not worked a job literally in years so where did the large sum of money come from(large for someone unemployed and not born wealthy)

Lastly it certainly appears to me as tho SP had to have knowledge of JP's murder/suicide.. He just has to.. His having no emotion about the tragic deaths of his closest "loved ones" being told to him for the first time.. Why in the world would he have been cussing out the investigators/LE??? *shakes head*


Still posting via mobile so plz forgive the large number of errors in my posts;)

21merc7
02-08-2012, 10:09 AM
Smoothoperator; I too think SP knew what JP was going to do. They may have planned it right before his arrest. If JP sent him any mail, LE will receive it first, but I think it was all talked about earlier. Maybe not the how, but the promise of it.

sherryk; You may have something on the utilities thought. Perhaps evidence is hidden in one of the homes around a utility hookup or connection. Perhaps it just means this was necessary to JP and SP. IDK, but I hope LE thinks about it. The money I have no idea about, guess that will be investigated and info released whenever it comes to light.

Also, don't think SP will tell the truth about anything. I am certain that any prosecutor would be aware of that, so I doubt there would be any deals without the clause of having the remains found exactly where told. Even then, I don't think any prosecutor is too keen on helping him out for info any time soon.

mysteriew
02-08-2012, 10:43 AM
About the money, IMO this was some twisted logic from JP. I think it may have been intended for the burial. A "good" father would make burial arrangements for his children and would pay for them. I think he may have also wanted to ensure that when it was discovered that the Cox's couldn't get their hands on it. And maybe he even had some thought that if the P. family was helping with the expenses that should somehow give them the right to some say so in the arrangements and that the family would make sure that he was buried with the boys.

I too wonder about where the money came from. Unless perhaps when Susan was alive and earning the money, JP was controlling the finances. And he kept tightening the household budget. I think he was putting money back from her earnings, hiding it somewhere. After she disappeared Daddy was paying the bills until he went to jail. There is also the possibility that he found some lucrative but perhaps criminal source of income. (There were all those pictures around.)

mck16
02-08-2012, 11:43 AM
About the money, IMO this was some twisted logic from JP. I think it may have been intended for the burial. A "good" father would make burial arrangements for his children and would pay for them. I think he may have also wanted to ensure that when it was discovered that the Cox's couldn't get their hands on it. And maybe he even had some thought that if the P. family was helping with the expenses that should somehow give them the right to some say so in the arrangements and that the family would make sure that he was buried with the boys.

I too wonder about where the money came from. Unless perhaps when Susan was alive and earning the money, JP was controlling the finances. And he kept tightening the household budget. I think he was putting money back from her earnings, hiding it somewhere. After she disappeared Daddy was paying the bills until he went to jail. There is also the possibility that he found some lucrative but perhaps criminal source of income. (There were all those pictures around.)

Has it been reported where the money went? tia

mysteriew
02-08-2012, 12:19 PM
Has it been reported where the money went? tia

I haven't heard yet. But based on the most recent statement from the cousin, I have my theories.

passionflower
02-08-2012, 01:29 PM
I can not find a forum to post this question or comment.. this seems to be the closest I can find... Steven Powell the father.. what could he know.

a few things come to mind.. first being it is reported that JP left instuctions how to disconnect the electic.. why HE knew there would be nothing left of the home to disconnect.. it would burn down.... could that been some kind of coded message to father.. who was the information on how to disconnect electic sent to???

It is now being reported that 7000.00 was withdrawn from JP account the day or days before this tragedy happened.. where did the funds go.. could that of been a code to dad to get word to family on where to find the 7000.00? What was the point of the withdrawl.. did he think that somehow the Cox family would get their hands on it?

I am very concerned on the electric disconnection.. and the fact that the father didnt seem suprised and cursed out the officers who told him of the news.

I bet anything that 7k shows up in the mail at a realtive home and it is for legal fees for dear old dad.. JMO

why the electriciy instructions if the house was to burn..

These things are some type of clues.. dont know what.. but it is

ITA SP/JP thick as thieves!
Did they have a plan between them?
BBM

Dr.Fessel
02-08-2012, 02:00 PM
Deputies seize cell phone of Josh Powell’s sister
Post by Adam Lynn / The News Tribune on Feb. 8, 2012 at 10:32 am with No Comments »

Pierce County sheriff’s detectives confiscated the cell phone of Josh Powell’s sister after she refused to give emails and voicemails he left for her before he killed his sons Sunday, newly filed court records show.

Alina Powell called 911 on Sunday to report she’s received four emails and a message from her brother that made her concerned for his safety. Detectives contacted her later in the day and requested copies.

“During the interview, Alina became upset and refused to allow Det. Sanders to copy the emails and refused to provide the phone to Det. Sanders,” the search warrant states.

The detectives later got a court order and seized the phone.

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2012/02/08/deputies-seize-cell-phone-of-josh-powells-sister/?storylink=twt#storylink=cpy

AnaTeresa
02-08-2012, 02:09 PM
Good! I'm tired of this family's stonewalling.

x_files
02-08-2012, 02:10 PM
I haven't heard yet. But based on the most recent statement from the cousin, I have my theories.

I'd love to hear your theories!
The money adds another level of mystery to this tragedy.

JSR
02-08-2012, 02:11 PM
Deputies seize cell phone of Josh Powell’s sister
Post by Adam Lynn / The News Tribune on Feb. 8, 2012 at 10:32 am with No Comments »

Pierce County sheriff’s detectives confiscated the cell phone of Josh Powell’s sister after she refused to give emails and voicemails he left for her before he killed his sons Sunday, newly filed court records show.

Alina Powell called 911 on Sunday to report she’s received four emails and a message from her brother that made her concerned for his safety. Detectives contacted her later in the day and requested copies.

“During the interview, Alina became upset and refused to allow Det. Sanders to copy the emails and refused to provide the phone to Det. Sanders,” the search warrant states.

The detectives later got a court order and seized the phone.

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2012/02/08/deputies-seize-cell-phone-of-josh-powells-sister/?storylink=twt#storylink=cpy

You have got to be kidding????

Does this entire family hate Susan enough to ensure her body is never found and never given a proper burial????

And I thought the Anthony family defied all reasoning. Just kidding it appears the Powell family is just as diabolical. The whole lot of them have something completely off.

JSR
02-08-2012, 02:12 PM
Good! I'm tired of this family's stonewalling.

I agree. They make Cindy, George and Lee Anthony look like saints!

21merc7
02-08-2012, 02:14 PM
Maybe the family is protecting some disturbing secrets and poor Susan was just an element tossed in to them. I have no idea, but I do find not giving them the phone or emails odd.

passionflower
02-08-2012, 02:17 PM
This is a true double murder of 2 little boys and even though the murderer killed himself, it should still be investigated.
I hate to bash the Powell family but a few of them just won't co=operate
with the LE, tells me that they are still protecting the killer and maybe their father
(the leader) or even themselves.
They should be investigated.
If there is nothing to hide, they will be cleared! JMOO

MaryAnn
02-08-2012, 02:51 PM
I don't understand how a person could not be overly emotional about his son and grandsons deaths. Could S have known about J's plan before hand?

imho

That's what I was wondering when I heard he showed no emotion. This is awful, but I keep wondering if the two boys were sexually molested by their Grandfather and Father. It appears that Josh was as a child by his Father. Maybe SP doesn't care because now he knows that the boys stories can't be used against him. Maybe he encouraged JP to do what he did. JMO

Divorce documents between Steve Powell and his ex-wife, Terrica Powell, depict what they describe as a sexually and emotionally abusive childhood for Josh and his four siblings.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/AP-Susan-Powell-case-called-a-murder-138892464.html?tab=video&c=y

gngr~snap
02-08-2012, 10:03 PM
SP sent Susan pictures of himself NUDE? I had NEVER heard this! g r o s s!!!
Now I do believe he had a hand in Susan's death as well!

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/susan_powell/story/Did-Joshs-dad-write-love-songs-to-Susan-Cox-Powell/7KshEnAEFk6iU_9liQwcHA.cspx

Eta: he was obsessed with Susan... Was he stalking her as well?:what:
~I wonder

SuziQ
02-08-2012, 10:13 PM
SP sent Susan pictures of himself NUDE? I had NEVER heard this! g r o s s!!!
Now I do believe he had a hand in Susan's death as well!

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/susan_powell/story/Did-Joshs-dad-write-love-songs-to-Susan-Cox-Powell/7KshEnAEFk6iU_9liQwcHA.cspx

Eta: he was obsessed with Susan... Was he stalking her as well?:what:
~I wonder

Yep. Except SP claims it was Susan who had a thing for him and who was he to refuse that? More cringe worthy details in the below thread.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113986&highlight=steven+obsessed

passionflower
02-08-2012, 10:19 PM
I don't understand how a person could not be overly emotional about his son and grandsons deaths. Could S have known about J's plan before hand?

imho

This is my thoughts exactly.
This was all planned out!
SP knew that is why he wasn't shocked, horrified or broken!

Dr.Fessel
02-08-2012, 10:40 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53458158-78/powell-josh-police-nielsen.html.csp

I don't know if I can believe a thing the West Valley PD say.

That information came from West Valley City Police, who on numerous occasions told Chuck and Judy Cox an arrest was imminent, according to Downing, who said that they "were led to believe that an arrest would be made perhaps the first week of September 2011.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=19162751

heidisams
02-08-2012, 11:49 PM
SP sent Susan pictures of himself NUDE? I had NEVER heard this! g r o s s!!!
Now I do believe he had a hand in Susan's death as well!

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/susan_powell/story/Did-Joshs-dad-write-love-songs-to-Susan-Cox-Powell/7KshEnAEFk6iU_9liQwcHA.cspx

Eta: he was obsessed with Susan... Was he stalking her as well?:what:
~I wonder

I have thought all along that sp was involved with her disappearance. And when you listen to the lyrics in the link you provided, about being within her, smelling her perfume, touching her...it goes along with the theory of her possibly being drugged for jp and sp's sick minds. IMO. The whole situation with the brunch, how long it took him, each served individually by Josh, Susan gets sleepy enough to excuse herself while her friend is still there. Then he later tells reporters, no she didn't take a nap, she went to bed at bedtime. And then all the strange ramblings made by Steve, his obsessive love for her, she returned it, etc... Maybe she did have relations with him like he describes, but she may not remember (really hope I'm wrong,but...).
Josh's mom talked about the incident where jp made a comment about girls being good for nothing but their body...and then he turned to his dad and said, "isn't that right dad?" And Steve said yes, that's right. This shows me jp was looking to impress his dad and wanted his approval. Jp sang his dads praises, so I wouldn't put it past him to help his dad out with his sick fantasy! Maybe Susan woke up during sp's assault, maybe that's why the car alarm went off??? Josh consistently says, "I would never hurt her." Who knows, but so many of sp's statements have made me wonder.
I also think maybe something about the $7000 may be found in Alina's phone.

Nixie
02-08-2012, 11:52 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if SP is very involved in Susan's disappearance. He is just as crazy as his son!

nursebeeme
02-10-2012, 05:23 PM
The September warrant sought details specifically from Steve Powell's laptop, which he used in his job helping coordinate purchase and placement of school furniture. It also requested a search of state-owned vehicles that Powell may have driven.

Steve Powell said last year that he had a flirtatious and somewhat sexual relationship with Susan Powell. Her parents said she thought he was a creep and moved to Utah in part to get away from him.

In a search of Steve Powell's Washington state home last year, authorities found explicit images on his computers and images of people being photographed without their knowledge. Among them were pictures of Susan Powell.http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/father-law-dragged-deeper-powell-saga-15557814#.TzWYSph9GXw

hollyblue
02-10-2012, 09:16 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if SP is very involved in Susan's disappearance. He is just as crazy as his son!

Josh was the product of his father's crazy/sickness, imo. The Sins of the Father program tonight is well titled.

We have heard nothing about Utah LE's "talk" with SP since the boys' demise. Have they talk to him? Bet he wouldn't even give them the time of day.

marlame
02-10-2012, 09:42 PM
Josh was the product of his father's crazy/sickness, imo. The Sins of the Father program tonight is well titled.

We have heard nothing about Utah LE's "talk" with SP since the boys' demise. Have they talk to him? Bet he wouldn't even give them the time of day.

BBM...
You are right on the money! And, it seems this "crazy/sickness" has gone on for a few generations. Somebody needs to connect the dots here! :maddening:

Below is a little refresher on Josh's daddy. History may be repeating itself...

Steven Powell wrote:
"In only a matter of months my dad made a unilateral and secretive decision to separate from my mom. So on a given weekend he took us to visit his parents while my mom went to spend the weekend with her aunt in Burbank. Unbeknownst to her, my grandparents had, prior to that weekend visit, transported their trailer house to Northern California, and parked it in Weed.

When we headed over to see my grandparents, and kept going north on Highway 1, something seemed amiss to me, even at seven years old. "Where is momma?" I asked. Grandma curtly replied, "You're never going to see your mother again." Of course, that was more devastating than the disappearance of the green car. My older brother, my sister and I were inconsolable. My baby brother probably just wondered what the commotion was about.

We kept driving until we reached Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Grandma and Grandpa parked their trailer house at a trailer camp along the highway, where I-90 now runs. My dad moved to Yakima, Washington where he had found work as a district supervisor for a regional newspaper. The good news for me was that I did not have to finish the last few weeks of second grade, and the next year I started into third grade without missing a beat.

The trailer camp was surrounded by bull pines and terraced up the side of a hill. I would go up the hill and play with my friends and my brother. On one occasion I informed one of my buddies that my grandparents had kidnapped us. My brother, who overheard, reported the conversation back to my grandmother, who encouraged me to keep my mouth shut (I was lying, in her estimation) by pouring a liberal dose of cayenne pepper on my tongue and making me stand in the corner.
It was also up on that hill above the trailer terrace that I conceived my first melody and lyrics. The lyrics were truly inspired:

Cigars, cigars,
Someone stole my cigars,
So I called the cops
To get my cigars.
The cops finally came.
The darned thing happened again,
So I called the cops
To get my cigars.

I'm not sure where the inspiration came from, since no-one in my family ever smoked cigars. And I am not sure why I remember it after all these years, or why it seemed to have such significance to me. The words are nearly meaningless, and the melody is not exactly the theme for a symphony. Maybe my seven-year-old subconscious knew more about my future vocation than I even knew for many years as an adult.

Nowadays, when I write songs I do a bit of editing. The first words that offer themselves as partners for a given melody do not always make it to the final cut."

http://stevechantrey.com/Pages/About/MeetSteve.aspx ---Steve Powell's WEBSITE


YIKES!!! I wonder what happened to Steve Powell's mother????

UPDATE: It appears SP's mother was married and divorced a few times. The Powell geneology thread here on WS is informative.

nobull
02-14-2012, 10:02 PM
So why would someone leave "instructions" on disconnecting the utilities on a house they know will be obliterated?

Maybe Susan is being held captive somewhere remotely, and JP has no further use of her being alive, hence "disconnecting" them.

Maybe that's why SP was cursing at the officers.