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mamamia54
02-10-2012, 07:17 PM
A comforter found in Josh Powell's storage unit after he killed himself and his two boys contained a stain that tested positive for blood, court documents revealed Friday.

At the time of his death, Powell was considered a person of interest in the 2009 disappearance and presumed death of his wife Susan when they resided in Utah. Authorities now say his father, jailed on child pornography charges, is also a person of interest.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20569415,00.html

mamamia54
02-10-2012, 07:21 PM
Also found in the storage unit were several plastic bins filled with miscellaneous items, a box full of blocks, a white garbage bag containing children's clothing and linen, a garbage bag full of toys and some framed photos.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Police-find-blood-stained-comforter-in-Powell-s-3247731.php

md89
02-10-2012, 07:27 PM
I remember Josh mentioning to a neighbor (shortly after Susan went missing) that he had to buy a new quilt. Of course there is a difference between a comforter and a quilt but I find it interesting. Why did he need to buy a new quilt?

passionflower
02-10-2012, 07:31 PM
I remember Josh mentioning to a neighbor (shortly after Susan went missing) that he had to buy a new quilt. Of course there is a difference between a comforter and a quilt but I find it interesting. Why did he need to buy a new quilt?

there are allot of people who say comfoter meaning quilt or blanket.
HIS was missing!
Like in Haskings needed a new mattress!
I wonder if their bedroom was in color tones where pink comforter would be what Susan put over her as she laid down sick after dinner?

SyraKelly
02-10-2012, 07:32 PM
Can someone please tell me if LE just found this storage unit or have they known about it all along,but could not open it for some legal reason

DLT88
02-10-2012, 07:32 PM
I remember Josh mentioning to a neighbor (shortly after Susan went missing) that he had to buy a new quilt. Of course there is a difference between a comforter and a quilt but I find it interesting. Why did he need to buy a new quilt?

AHa -- good memory!

Dr.Fessel
02-10-2012, 07:37 PM
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
#JoshPowell search warrant of storage unit: "Powell last accessed the unit on 02-04-12, the day prior to the homicide." #FindSusan


https://twitter.com/#!/KevinKIRO

Dr.Fessel
02-10-2012, 07:41 PM
But Peterson said Josh did talk about having to buy new clothes and a new quilt.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8986844&autostart=y

mysteriew
02-10-2012, 07:44 PM
I really didn't expect that they would find anything there but I am glad now that I was wrong. I wonder just how much blood was on it. I would guess that it would be small, easily missed or even a fine spray the kind that isn't really noticable to the naked eye.

mamamia54
02-10-2012, 07:46 PM
So, if he last accessed the unit the day before Susan went missing, do we know for certain that she wasn't actually killed on the 4th? Did anyone see her alive that day?

mysteriew
02-10-2012, 07:49 PM
So, if he last accessed the unit the day before Susan went missing, do we know for certain that she wasn't actually killed on the 4th? Did anyone see her alive that day?

2-4-12 is the day before he killed himself and the two boys. They are still calling Susan a disappearance.

hollyblue
02-10-2012, 07:50 PM
A comforter found in Josh Powell's storage unit after he killed himself and his two boys contained a stain that tested positive for blood, court documents revealed Friday.

At the time of his death, Powell was considered a person of interest in the 2009 disappearance and presumed death of his wife Susan when they resided in Utah. Authorities now say his father, jailed on child pornography charges, is also a person of interest.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20569415,00.html

Wanted to move my post from the other thread.

Well.....IF this is true, and since WVCPD took the comforter from Susan and Josh's house the next day after her disappearance...it's seem THAT comforter was staged and the real one ended up in WA.....SOMEHOW!! So who took it toWA and when? 12/7/09?

???? JMO

ETA: I can't believe all this info....and findings are coming out after the fact!!! I may have to cease posting on her case if this continues....for my membership...and sanity.

mamamia54
02-10-2012, 07:51 PM
2-4-12 is the day before he killed himself and the two boys. They are still calling Susan a disappearance.

Oh for God's sake, yes, duh.

passionflower
02-10-2012, 07:55 PM
I wonder the date he first rented this unit?
and if there are others......
was it in his real name?

Dr.Fessel
02-10-2012, 08:00 PM
I wonder the date he first rented this unit?
and if there are others......
was it in his real name?

I wonder if he had a storage unit in Utah they did not know about.

mamamia54
02-10-2012, 08:03 PM
Apparently the storage unit was in his name, nothing to indicate it wasn't.

motappin
02-10-2012, 09:04 PM
Wow. I always kind of assumed poisoning or some other "clean" method for him to kill her. Unless he did something else to her first and then stabbed her with whatever out of rage & evil. I guess that would explain us not hearing about any blood evidence, like splatter, since you won't get splatter if someone is already dead (no blood pressure). At least if I understand things right. I suppose she could have been drugged first, taken to wherever they "camped" and then killed, but obviously one of the kids saw something with the "mommy owie" comment. Scratching my head a little.

gwenabob
02-10-2012, 09:08 PM
I remember Josh mentioning to a neighbor (shortly after Susan went missing) that he had to buy a new quilt. Of course there is a difference between a comforter and a quilt but I find it interesting. Why did he need to buy a new quilt?

Because LE had confiscated his. The one that was on his bed in plain sight, that is.

We have more than one quilt/bedspread/comforter around our house. When we get a new one, the old one goes into storage in case we need it later. Like if we want to wrap a dead/dying body in the back of a van for clean transport.

Sassygerl
02-10-2012, 09:09 PM
I don't understand for the life of me WHY NOW they are searching this storage unit. There are so many things that went wrong :( Just a cluster....

TheDuchess
02-10-2012, 09:10 PM
First of all question-if the blood on the blanket is related to Susan's disappearance, i.e. her blood, why would he have kept it for 2 years in a storage unit under his name. I would think that he would make sure any and all physcial evidence would have been destroyed. How difficult could have been to dispose of a comforter?

I am thinking it is nothing, to be honest, unless he decided to keep it as a souvernier?

Softail
02-10-2012, 09:16 PM
WOW! Just read the first posts. Again, I won't ever understand they he was allowed to be free....

:(

indicat
02-10-2012, 09:18 PM
Because LE had confiscated his. The one that was on his bed in plain sight, that is.

We have more than one quilt/bedspread/comforter around our house. When we get a new one, the old one goes into storage in case we need it later. Like if we want to wrap a dead/dying body in the back of a van for clean transport.

Gwenabob, this humor is so wrong-and makes me giggle, I need a giggle...

Softail
02-10-2012, 09:19 PM
Illinois got it right and put Drew Peterson in jail where he belongs. Maybe they can share some info with other law enforcement agencies.

This SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!

indicat
02-10-2012, 09:20 PM
First of all question-if the blood on the blanket is related to Susan's disappearance, i.e. her blood, why would he have kept it for 2 years in a storage unit under his name. I would think that he would make sure any and all physcial evidence would have been destroyed. How difficult could have been to dispose of a comforter?

I am thinking it is nothing, to be honest, unless he decided to keep it as a souvernier?

Bingo, I was thinking souvenier too

mysteriew
02-10-2012, 09:29 PM
First of all question-if the blood on the blanket is related to Susan's disappearance, i.e. her blood, why would he have kept it for 2 years in a storage unit under his name. I would think that he would make sure any and all physcial evidence would have been destroyed. How difficult could have been to dispose of a comforter?

I am thinking it is nothing, to be honest, unless he decided to keep it as a souvernier?

That was my first thought too. But then I remembered that sometimes when blood sprays, sometimes it comes out as a fine mist and unless you look for it under a magnifying glass you might not see it. Also sometimes if it is just a small spot or two it might get overlooked. From all reports JP had really been pinching pennies at the last of the marriage. So he could have even seen the blood and if it was small enough spots that it wasn't noticable, he might have been reluctant to throw it out.

If the amount of blood was small, it alone wouldn't have been enough to arrest JP. Because other things could have explained it. Menstrual blood, a small cut etc.

IzzyBlanche
02-10-2012, 10:16 PM
I hope this isn't too much information, but I used to have really heavy periods, much to the detriment of the bedclothes in case of accident.

So I think the stain would have to be really huge for it to have any potential evidentiary value.

Unless of course there was proof of when the comforter was purchased, and Susan's medical records contradicted such a scenario after that date.

tiredblondy
02-10-2012, 10:19 PM
I really hope that there was not more evidence that Josh burned with the house.

x_files
02-10-2012, 10:30 PM
I really hope that there was not more evidence that Josh burned with the house.

That's what I fear.

KMouse
02-10-2012, 10:34 PM
I hope this isn't too much information, but I used to have really heavy periods, much to the detriment of the bedclothes in case of accident.

So I think the stain would have to be really huge for it to have any potential evidentiary value.

Unless of course there was proof of when the comforter was purchased, and Susan's medical records contradicted such a scenario after that date.

Would you bother to keep a soiled quilt in a storage locker and pay the fees for it?

I can't see JP keeping a quilt connected to the murder of Susan. I find the whole storage locker thing odd.

JustJax
02-10-2012, 10:34 PM
That's what I fear.
Pure evil...uggh. I'm just sick.

Cher352
02-11-2012, 01:23 AM
Would you bother to keep a soiled quilt in a storage locker and pay the fees for it?

I can't see JP keeping a quilt connected to the murder of Susan. I find the whole storage locker thing odd.

<BBM>

I don't find the storage locker odd considering that when he moved from Utah to WA is was to his father's house. He would have needed somewhere to store all his stuff. But I do wonder what all he removed from that storage locker on his last visit.

mrsu
02-11-2012, 01:46 AM
It was said on Dateline tonight that on Saturday after he visited the storage locker he also visited a landfill and left some bags full of stuff. I wonder if LE was able to retrieve these bags. Seems like he may have gotten rid of some stuff from the storage.

cluciano63
02-11-2012, 01:53 AM
It was said on Dateline tonight that on Saturday after he visited the storage locker he also visited a landfill and left some bags full of stuff. I wonder if LE was able to retrieve these bags. Seems like he may have gotten rid of some stuff from the storage.

I know, it seems odd that they know he went to a landfill, if they have not also been able to track what he did there...I hope there is more evidence found from this trip, only I am doubtful that any evidence found would lead to where Susan actually is now, only possibly more proof that JP killed her.

dovebar
02-11-2012, 02:39 AM
I know, it seems odd that they know he went to a landfill, if they have not also been able to track what he did there...I hope there is more evidence found from this trip, only I am doubtful that any evidence found would lead to where Susan actually is now, only possibly more proof that JP killed her.

I don't even know where my local landfill is. It's interesting that he does, given that he's not in a business like construction that would take him to the landfill regularly.

Cher352
02-11-2012, 02:45 AM
There is another thread here on the landfill. In the 1st post there is a link where LE says they received a "tip" that he "may" have gone to the landfill recycling center. So far nothing found but as seen in other cases so many times people call in tips that are really their own personal theories.

dovebar
02-11-2012, 02:50 AM
There is another thread here on the landfill. In the 1st post there is a link where LE says they received a "tip" that he "may" have gone to the landfill recycling center. So far nothing found but as seen in other cases so many times people call in tips that are really their own personal theories.

It certainly makes me wonder whether he just took Susan to a landfill in Utah. Mark Hacking very nearly got away with that.

SmoothOperator
02-11-2012, 04:04 AM
Imo the ONLY THING THAT COULDBE OF EVIDENTIARY VALUE is what he attempted to get rid of.. Right?? I mean why else even go to the storage except to find particular items that he didn't want discovered after he was soon to be dead??. We know his next stop was landfill that he left several bags of "stuff" at the landfill.. Imo *IF* there was ever anything of importance in that storage facility it was taken out Saturday and dumped at the landfill..

Just looking at it logically.. I wonder if the bedspread was found at the landfill possibly??

MsFacetious
02-11-2012, 04:38 AM
I am SO glad that they gave the pictures and the boys belongings from the storage shed, back to the Cox family.

Because LE had confiscated his. The one that was on his bed in plain sight, that is.

We have more than one quilt/bedspread/comforter around our house. When we get a new one, the old one goes into storage in case we need it later. Like if we want to wrap a dead/dying body in the back of a van for clean transport.

Remind me never to make this one angry okay??? :seeya:

We have at least 12 comforters and 6 or so quilts. Everything from twin to king size. Even have 2 identical of a few of them.
I could EASILY dispose of a few bodies and no one would even notice a comforter missing. :twocents:

I hope this isn't too much information, but I used to have really heavy periods, much to the detriment of the bedclothes in case of accident.

So I think the stain would have to be really huge for it to have any potential evidentiary value.

Unless of course there was proof of when the comforter was purchased, and Susan's medical records contradicted such a scenario after that date.

I am pretty sure they can usually tell the difference between menstrual blood and regular blood.
However, I am sure there has to be a certain amount for that to be possible and if there isn't enough...

daisy7
02-11-2012, 09:02 AM
I have removed a few posts that are discussing other members. Don't do it.

passionflower
02-11-2012, 10:08 AM
IMO the or any comforter that jp owned woulod be important only because of his statement that he HAD to BUY a NEW one (and clothes) AFTER Susan was reported missing. WHY? freudian slip up.
Just like he said 'I would never STAB Susan? Did he? Was that mommies owie???

TheDuchess
02-11-2012, 10:25 AM
OK I have a really off the wall theory here but with this case I think anything is possible. It is kind of graphic so WARNING!!!




I am thinking of Josh's story of Susan not feeling well, the boys saying Mommy had an owie and the comforter found with blood on it. Is it all possible that Susan may have been pregnant and suffered a miscarriage? I am thinking of Josh's warped values and beliefs and maybe he blamed her for it and became enraged and killed her? The only reason I can think of "saving" a bloody comforter would be if it had some value to you? Perhaps he felt the quilt contained the remains of his unborn child and he kept it there to "visit" it.

I know this is far fetched but with these people and what I have learned it makes my mind reach to places it normally wouldn't. I just thought I would share one crazy theory in what is already a crazy situation.

TGIRecovered
02-11-2012, 10:26 AM
I have always said that I believe that Josh kept souveneirs of his crime against Susan. Remember, he was a narcissist; he thought that he was above the law, smarter than the police. He witnessed how his father got away with a lifetime of abuse against his family. He helped hold his mother down while SP beat her. He saw how easily SP got custody of his own children, (except for JG), in the divorce. Josh got a thrill from the percieved power he felt, knowing that he was getting away with Susan's murder. Any souvenier just increased the thrill! MOO

I won't be surprised if this comforter turns out to have blood spray on it. I won't be surprised if other souveniers, (maybe even pictures or video), turn up. If they don't, I'll just assume he hid them well.

Josh's personality reminds me of the BTK serial killer. He liked to gloat. Getting away with murder is not as much fun for this type of freak if no one knows for sure that he did it!

Peliman
02-11-2012, 10:39 AM
I have always said that I believe that Josh kept souveneirs of his crime against Susan. Remember, he was a narcissist; he thought that he was above the law, smarter than the police. He witnessed how his father got away with a lifetime of abuse against his family. He helped hold his mother down while SP beat her. He saw how easily SP got custody of his own children, (except for JG), in the divorce. Josh got a thrill from the percieved power he felt, knowing that he was getting away with Susan's murder. Any souvenier just increased the thrill! MOO

I won't be surprised if this comforter turns out to have blood spray on it. I won't be surprised if other souveniers, (maybe even pictures or video), turn up. If they don't, I'll just assume he hid them well.

Josh's personality reminds me of the BTK serial killer. He liked to gloat. Getting away with murder is not as much fun for this type of freak if no one knows for sure that he did it!

Now that you mention it, SP kept souveniers of Susan too. Making me wonder if SP had anything to do with this locker. Sounds like the nut didn't fall to far from the tree.

kai
02-11-2012, 10:52 AM
Would you bother to keep a soiled quilt in a storage locker and pay the fees for it?

I can't see JP keeping a quilt connected to the murder of Susan. I find the whole storage locker thing odd.

If the items in the locker were mostly Susan's then Josh may have kept the locker for his whole facade of her returning someday. Look how good he looks for keeping her things in the hope of her return. Eventually the boys would have asked about personal items and photos of their mom. Josh would have had the ability to appear like the good husband and dad by saving these items. EVERY choice Josh made was to benefit him in some way.

mysteriew
02-11-2012, 12:06 PM
As far as how they know about the storage unit visit the other day I am thinking that the owner/manager/employees may have known him on sight. He would have been familiar as the news of Susan's disappearance was covered frequently and he was also interviewed.

I'm thinking that he visited and was seen, no biggie a tennant visiting his unit. But then the next day the news of his murder of the boys and the owner probably called LE.

Reality Orlando
02-11-2012, 12:27 PM
I don't even know where my local landfill is. It's interesting that he does, given that he's not in a business like construction that would take him to the landfill regularly.

I think anyone who does a lot of DIY home improvements or landscaping would know. I've always known as we have way too much yard clippings when we do our yard work so we fill a trailer and visit the landfill usually twice a month. I don't think that's unusual.

dovebar
02-11-2012, 12:47 PM
I think anyone who does a lot of DIY home improvements or landscaping would know. I've always known as we have way too much yard clippings when we do our yard work so we fill a trailer and visit the landfill usually twice a month. I don't think that's unusual.

That makes sense. I'm just struck by the fact that it doesn't seem he's done too much of that in Washington, at least that we know of. Also, going to all the trouble of dumping things at a landfill - if it's just papers and boxes, you could put them in any dumpster, or bring them to the house you're going to burn up and just put them in your trash cans....the landfill run is puzzling. Seems like he was really thinking those would not be found.

Cheewawa007
02-11-2012, 02:32 PM
I think he was just playing games with LE - he probably knew his finals steps would be retraced after his death. He's probably sitting around the fire having a good laugh with the devil as they sift through the garbage in hopes of finding evidence of some sort.

Dewey2Me1MoThyme
02-11-2012, 03:18 PM
I think anyone who does a lot of DIY home improvements or landscaping would know. I've always known as we have way too much yard clippings when we do our yard work so we fill a trailer and visit the landfill usually twice a month. I don't think that's unusual.

Is there any news yet on the landfill search? TIA :rocker:

21merc7
02-11-2012, 04:55 PM
Is there any news yet on the landfill search? TIA :rocker:

I haven't seen anything yet. Don't know if we will today, they had a lot to look through, and news is about the boys funeral. News may stay on that for respect, time it will take, and the weekend. Will keep eyes open though.

Also, in regards to going to the landfill, yeah, it could have been another throw them off over here thing. Or it could be where he was did not have trash pick up and you had to take your own. I doubt he would intentionally leave any clues about Susan, he would have burned everything long ago or that horrible day.

FLmom777
02-11-2012, 05:06 PM
As far as how they know about the storage unit visit the other day I am thinking that the owner/manager/employees may have known him on sight. He would have been familiar as the news of Susan's disappearance was covered frequently and he was also interviewed.

I'm thinking that he visited and was seen, no biggie a tennant visiting his unit. But then the next day the news of his murder of the boys and the owner probably called LE.

I had a storage unit for a time. At the one I used there was a keypad that you entered a code in order to open the gate so you could drive in. The code was assigned by the manager and we could not simply pick a code of our own. This may have been a way to track who came and went and when.

karen7868
02-11-2012, 05:53 PM
Have they asked Susan's friend Kiirsi what kind of comforter Susan last had on her bed?

They were such good friends and this is something a woman notices.

The news media guy Nate (can't remember last name), but he tweeted that it was only a small amount of blood.

karen7868
02-11-2012, 06:01 PM
This may have already been discussed (sorry, trying to keep up), but does anyone think the toys JP donated had been in the storage unit?

They may have been toys Susan had gotten them and he didn't want them to have them. I know someone called LE about the toys and books because it had both Josh and Susan's names in them.

If so, that is terrible to keep those toys and pics from them. Finally seeing her pictures again probably is probably what started triggering their memories.

I just know I came across this photo of some kid's building blocks that were in the fire. The way LE made it sound, he donated all the kids toys from the home. Sorry, I don't know how to insert the pic but here is the link. So sad.


http://www.google.com/imgres?q=josh+powell+fire+pictures+blocks&hl=en&sa=X&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS295US297&biw=1024&bih=458&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsuo&tbnid=_k7J3PXvDsjNtM:&imgrefurl=http://www.komonews.com/news/local/AP-Susan-Powell-case-called-a-murder-138892464.html%3Ftab%3Dgallery%26c%3Dy%26img%3D6&docid=pDB5AcIz65T1lM&imgurl=http://media.komonews.com/images/120207_Missing_Mom_Utah_6.jpg&w=512&h=383&ei=uvI2T-e7FZShtwestaWmCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=0&sig=106990484915535980622&page=1&tbnh=127&tbnw=172&start=0&ndsp=10&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=69&ty=69

IHAVENOCLUE
02-11-2012, 06:08 PM
Because LE had confiscated his. The one that was on his bed in plain sight, that is.

We have more than one quilt/bedspread/comforter around our house. When we get a new one, the old one goes into storage in case we need it later. Like if we want to wrap a dead/dying body in the back of a van for clean transport.

BBM...:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

cluciano63
02-11-2012, 06:35 PM
Even if it turns out to be Susan's blood and LE had found it sooner...would they have arrested him? No one has been arrested in Ayla's case, although her blood has been found in her father's bedroom.

21merc7
02-11-2012, 07:09 PM
Even if it turns out to be Susan's blood and LE had found it sooner...would they have arrested him? No one has been arrested in Ayla's case, although her blood has been found in her father's bedroom.

I doubt it. He could have said she cut herself, had a nosebleed, or some unsavory comment. The blanket would just be added to a pile of stuff to maybe become part of evidence.

LietKynes
02-11-2012, 07:12 PM
I'd like to think something could come of this blood...but, if it was used to transport Susans' body; wouldn't J. or his dad have burned/disposed of -- it by now ? It appears that they may have done that to her body.
imo.

DLT88
02-11-2012, 09:51 PM
I'd like to think something could come of this blood...but, if it was used to transport Susans' body; wouldn't J. or his dad have burned/disposed of -- it by now ? It appears that they may have done that to her body.
imo.

Maybe they should let a cadaver dog smell the comforter.