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wenwe4
03-05-2012, 05:04 PM
1700 days before he spoke to LE? Wow, that just beats 31 days out of the water!!!

mck16
03-05-2012, 05:04 PM
This jury got it right!

Will he go directly to jail now after the sentencing?

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:04 PM
And yes, Jason. We all 'came here for THAT'.

seattlechiquita
03-05-2012, 05:04 PM
Why is HLN saying "this is a stunner"? Yes, this was mostly a circumstantial case, there are hundreds of cases tried every year based on circumstantial evidence.

Mel

It's HLN.... I can hear NG this evening.... BOMBSHELL TONIGHT! bla bla bla bla

lonetraveler
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Thank you jurors! My faith in the justice system has elevated up a few notches............

SteelerGirl43
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Heartbreaking.... I honestly don't feel he did it... :::crying:::

calamityjane831
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Now the talking heads on In Session change their tune. This is why I take them with a grain of salt.

SAgal
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
I'm glad the Jury did not compromise with the 2nd Degree verdict.

GUILTY!!! 1st Degree.

gorealtors
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
I just wanted everyone here to know that I got JTF on the phone and he heard the verdict live as he was driving! Of all the people here, he deserved to hear it when we did... LIVE!!! He's overjoyed!!!!!!

ynotdivein
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Bumping this. Please take note.


Reminder to all who have followed this, no matter where you fall on the spectrum, you are a Websleuther, and we expect that you will exhibit respect for your fellow sleuthers who may have very different opinions than yours. PLEASE refrain from gloating, wishing ill upon players, making demeaning comments, and other forms of bad behavior.

In a sense, there is no "other side" here. Every one of us is united in our grief for MY and RY and for the families of everyone involved.

LaMer
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Is there a link to the live stream??
In Session is still covering the Dhuran Ravi case!

HLN is covering it!

oceanblueeyes
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Thank you Jesus.

I am so pleased that this jury got it right.

<modsnip>

God bless the Fisher family. They have waited so long for justice to come.

dja230
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Thank you jury, peace to family and friends of Michelle it may have taken awhile but the right thing has been done today, one down many more to go.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Rest in peace Michelle and Rylan.

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/10813551/#/vid10813551

live again

sentencing hearing will be in a few minutes...

happy2binNC
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Will he go directly to jail now after the sentencing?

Yes, they will sentence him and then the deputies will escort him out that side door. At least that's what they did for Brad Cooper.

seattlechiquita
03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
Hey WS... a big hug to everyone. Whatever the verdict, this community is a prime example of adult behavior. Y'all rock.

katydid23
03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
I am glad the jury took their time with the verdict too. They asked questions and talked it through. WELL DONE>

jrb0124
03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
On another note, I expect an appeal to be filed pretty quick though.


Off the top of my head, the doll-play & reporting of what CY said was the the one issue I saw with a strenuous objection.

JY cannot appeal the outcome (verdict), just the legal rulings or procedures during the trial and their bearing on his right to a fair trial.

I think he's done - this was a pretty well-run and fair trial IMO.

ETA - unless something extremely exculpatory arises in the future (i.e. someone else confesses or is proven the killer)

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
HLN is covering it!

Yeah. And NOW they're pointing out the evidence against him. I am soooooooo turning them off.

rockin10
03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
Called my husband crying! I am so SAD at all of these circumstances, but SO glad that justice was served. imo

gracielee
03-05-2012, 05:08 PM
No compromise verdict, guilty 1st. degree!

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:08 PM
now asking for motions on behalf on the defendant

Boodles
03-05-2012, 05:08 PM
Thank you jury. You have restored my faith! Thank you thank you thank you for finding this man guilty and granting justice for Michelle, Rylan, Cassidy, Meredith, and Linda. <3

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:08 PM
LOL! Just got the text from N&O about the verdict. Sorry, guys. A little late!!

indicat
03-05-2012, 05:09 PM
Thank you to the 4 hold outs from last time too, because of them this was able to happen!

Melanie
03-05-2012, 05:09 PM
Gosh, I'm just incredibly sad. It brings this case full circle for me. A beautiful little girl loses both parents, a family who loses a daughter, sister, friend. There will be no gloating here - I think the verdict is just. I do worry about CY and the future she has to face (can you imagine).

Thanks to everyone for all the updates (I watched the first trial, and didn't spend so much time on the re-trial but read the boards).

The reaction from JY is quite telling to me as well. He's about to lose his freedom, and nothing. Shock? Maybe he finally wants to have a good nights sleep like Scott Peterson, after finally having to face what he did. I don't know.

Anyway, thanks again everyone.

MOO

Mel

BrownRice
03-05-2012, 05:09 PM
I just got home! Is there a link anywhere with the video?

calamityjane831
03-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Wow Judge Stephens knows whats up.

Stella5
03-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Motion to set aside the verdict.... insufficient evidence in DT view... court this is a domestic violence homicide case... unmistakable and all too predictable conduct from the evidence....

This is going to be denied.

octobermoon
03-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Judge Stephens is right.

luckyme
03-05-2012, 05:10 PM
I told you guys there would be verdict because i had to leave!!!! I walked in house and saw cp on tv.

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:10 PM
defense saying insufficient evidence for verdict

judge says that it is a domestic violence homicide
says it is unmistakeable and all too predictable
evidence appears to the court to show a relationship that escalated from arguments, etc to defendant saying he was "done"... saying it was a traumatic thing that was preventable

suz1729
03-05-2012, 05:10 PM
OMG I can't stop crying .Thank goodness this jury was able to put it all together. Bless the Fisher Family.Rest in peace Michelle and Ryan.

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:11 PM
Wow. Judge Stephens is spot on!

LaMer
03-05-2012, 05:11 PM
No compromise verdict, guilty 1st. degree!

Amen!

Stella5
03-05-2012, 05:11 PM
This woman wasn't just murdered, this woman suffered a beating the likes of this court has never seen... this woman was punished.

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:11 PM
michelle suffered a beating
she was punished
per judge

seattlechiquita
03-05-2012, 05:12 PM
I just got home! Is there a link anywhere with the video?

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/10813551/#/vid10813551

Scherzo
03-05-2012, 05:12 PM
This is what I wanted to hear Judge. Now we know what you've been thinking throughout the trial.

3doglady
03-05-2012, 05:12 PM
Thank you Judge Stevens. Justice for Michelle and Ryan.

rockin10
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
I want to cheer this judge on and give him a hug!! THank you for your common sense!!!

Tipstaff
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Oh my God the Judge is phenomenal!

Alcina
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
I wish they would show Jason while the Judge is talking. I'd love to see his face.

IlliniFan
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
I just got home! Is there a link anywhere with the video?

Here you go...

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/10813551/#/vid10813551

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Man, I'd like a transcript of this part.

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
mister young has a significant mental health issue, anger issues, issues with women.. he had motive and opportunity and the crime scene points directly to him

motion denied

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/10813551/#/vid10813551

seattlechiquita
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Of course he chooses not to address the Court.

RaleighNC
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Did anyone actually think he'd address the court?

lonetraveler
03-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Wow, this judge is really laying his views out there and has no problem with the jury's verdict.

wenwe4
03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Judge saying this assailant struck this woman over 30 times, he continued to beat her until he was exhausted and he didn't have strength to strike anymore. . . overcome with anger and rage. He stripped her of engagement and wedding rings . . . she was unworthy of wearing them. His former wife/fiance' had the same issue - he stripped her of rings.

He has a pattern of DV, motive and opportunity to commit the crime, crime scene evidence points directly at Jason Young.

Judgement of court . . . Life in Prisonment. Bond denied. Sherrif he is in your custody. He is escorted out the door. Jurors are being dismissed . . everyone else remain.

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
lwop

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seattlechiquita
03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
PY not breaking into tears? WTF. this family is truly very strange...

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Heartbreaking.... I honestly don't feel he did it... :::crying:::

Even after what Judge Stephens just said?

Boodles
03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Coward! He would not address the jury no surprise.

mck16
03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Called my husband crying! I am so SAD at all of these circumstances, but SO glad that justice was served. imo

I believe the judge agrees with the verdict.

calamityjane831
03-05-2012, 05:15 PM
Yes this just clicked for me. He stripped off the ring of GC (?) the fiance and he stripped of the rings of MY. Wow

LaMer
03-05-2012, 05:15 PM
Fantastic Jury!

jrb0124
03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
IMO Judge Stephens gave a better closing argument than the State, and he did it in less, than 5 minutes.

cluciano63
03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
I am very relieved...

SailorMoon
03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
Wow, I stop watching for about 10 minutes and miss it all. Excellent. I wanted to see his freaking face.

distracted 1976
03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
Holy Carp I missed it for Judge Judy?! Today is my birthday. My wish was for justice. Thanks to all who educated me during this trial!

Whimsigal
03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
Dang it, I missed it!! But am SO RELIEVED the jury found him guilty!!!!!!

gngr~snap
03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
Yes this just clicked for me. He stripped off the ring of GC (?) the fiance and he stripped of the rings of MY. Wow

Just WOW!

thumbtack
03-05-2012, 05:16 PM
JY's mom = no emotion shown. oh well, she still has a daughter. unbelievable.

Cammy
03-05-2012, 05:17 PM
I am so sorry for CY, and didn't want to just leave today without saying thank you to all the Mods.
Thank you for letting me post here.

:heart: RIP Michelle

calamityjane831
03-05-2012, 05:17 PM
LF hugging the PT. xo

Bottle Cap
03-05-2012, 05:19 PM
Whew.

Stuff like this restores your faith in the world a bit. Hopefully this will help the Fisher family move forward.

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:19 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if spouses all over the world figured out that divorces and child custody hearings are a MUCH better alternative to this?

LaMer
03-05-2012, 05:19 PM
Holy Carp I missed it for Judge Judy?! Today is my birthday. My wish was for justice. Thanks to all who educated me during this trial!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :skip:

annalyzer
03-05-2012, 05:19 PM
a big thank you to becky holt

MD MOMMY
03-05-2012, 05:20 PM
Saying a prayer for everyone involved. I am so happy to see this day though. After watching the CA trial I had lost a little faith in the common sense of America.

Melanie
03-05-2012, 05:20 PM
I don't believe we ever saw the pictures of MY, but the jury and judge did. They had to know the beating was so very personal. Then to strip her rings, like he did with his ex was just too telling. So unnecessary - whatever happened to divorce?

RIP Michelle

JustJax
03-05-2012, 05:21 PM
Man, I'd like a transcript of this part.
I was thinking the same thing.

ohiogirl
03-05-2012, 05:21 PM
I can't be joyous, but I do believe justice was served in this instance.
Thank you all!

LaMer
03-05-2012, 05:21 PM
Used to be, CE was the very Best! Glad to see it was honored! Yooo HOOO!

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:23 PM
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10814366/

this link has a red banner at the top saying there is a 30 min special tonight on the retrial of Jason Lynn Young

Pocono Sleuther
03-05-2012, 05:23 PM
Wow. Finally justice for Michelle and Rylan, over 5 years later.

Breazy
03-05-2012, 05:23 PM
Haven't posted here but have been following this case since the inception and have followed along with all your posts.

YES! Thank you so much jurors for using your common sense!!

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:23 PM
Yes! Is that a problem....

No, didn't say it was. Just surprising imo. He summed it up pretty well.

oakayfine
03-05-2012, 05:24 PM
This woman wasn't just murdered, this woman suffered a beating the likes of this court has never seen... this woman was punished.

Yep, for biting, she got a spanking. NOT! Thank the Good Lord he is finally getting exactly what he deserves. I guess he should have sat with his Mommy today, and at least taken that last lunch with her.

chasing.halos
03-05-2012, 05:25 PM
And FINALLY there is justice.

Rest in peace beautiful Michelle and precious baby boy. :rose:

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:25 PM
I was thinking the same thing.

Maybe Jason should be given a framed copy for his cell.

sureLocke
03-05-2012, 05:25 PM
It's difficult to feel happy with the circumstances that brought us to this point but I am certainly relieved JY will be spending the rest of his natural life behind bars.

luckyme
03-05-2012, 05:25 PM
So i think jury knew at lunch! came back and filled out forms.

Tipstaff
03-05-2012, 05:25 PM
And JY didn't testify this time -

Boodles
03-05-2012, 05:26 PM
Will he go directly to jail now after the sentencing?

Jail is a cake walk, from what I understand. JY is going to prison! Don't know if it will be today, but his party is over.

twirlygurl
03-05-2012, 05:26 PM
Love to Michelle, Rylan, Cassidy, Meredith and Linda.

fifteen89
03-05-2012, 05:27 PM
Kinda funny how much evidence Mike Brooks sees NOW.

Rigby
03-05-2012, 05:27 PM
Thanks to all for your insight into this case. I am relieved that I am not the only one who is crying right now. I am glad I am not the only one who thinks getting immersed in a trial is a waste of time. I am glad this is over, and will continue to keep MF, LF, and CY (and eventually maybe even JY) in my prayers. MY and RY, you will not be forgotten!!

Wolfpack
03-05-2012, 05:27 PM
Will he go directly to jail now after the sentencing?

Held at Jail until he is sent to Central for processing.

RR0004
03-05-2012, 05:28 PM
I'm crying.
Justice has been a long time coming.
Restores my faith in the legal system...a little bit.
Prayers for Michelle's family.

Tipstaff
03-05-2012, 05:28 PM
Gracielee - make that a double double.

octobermoon
03-05-2012, 05:29 PM
Love to Michelle, Rylan, Cassidy, Meredith and Linda.

:hug:

terminatrixator
03-05-2012, 05:29 PM
Just wanted you guys to know that RPD was traveling today and I called him when the verdict came in so he could hear it live!! Of all the people on earth that deserved to hear that, he's at the top of the list! He was beyond overjoyed!!

I thought of him as the verdict came in. I'm very happy for him. He deserves so much thanks and praise for everything he has done to keep Justice for Michelle alive.

BrownRice
03-05-2012, 05:29 PM
I wish wral would turn off their video and post a replay of the verdict! Driving me crazy I missed it.

Shelby1
03-05-2012, 05:30 PM
I missed it if the camera showed JY's face. Did anyone see it?

jmflu
03-05-2012, 05:30 PM
I haven't been this happy since they found BC guilty!!!!!


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LaMer
03-05-2012, 05:30 PM
Haven't posted here but have been following this case since the inception and have followed along with all your posts.

YES! Thank you so much jurors for using your common sense!!

Me too!

It has been quite a trial. Thank you Moderators, a Great Job!

Paige SC
03-05-2012, 05:30 PM
Kinda funny how much evidence Mike Brooks sees NOW.

I know, right??!! Don't have much use for him after this trial.

twirlygurl
03-05-2012, 05:31 PM
I missed it if the camera showed JY's face. Did anyone see it?

yes. No tears, just a vein that is about ready to burst.

BrownRice
03-05-2012, 05:31 PM
Well, the Young family should just be grateful JY was out on bond for almost a year - kind of like a free pass he certainly didn't deserve.

Talina
03-05-2012, 05:32 PM
I want to thank the mods of this thread for putting up with so much from all of us.

I'm sure it was very trying at times and probably hard to resist shutting down the threads to give us all some cooling off time.

Kudos to all of you! :rocker:

seattlechiquita
03-05-2012, 05:33 PM
Let's remember this is a small step in the fight against Domestic Violence. I would love to leave a world where DV is just a sad dark era in History books.

Peace.

Elisaa444
03-05-2012, 05:33 PM
Kinda funny how much evidence Mike Brooks sees NOW.


Right. Everytime he would discuss this case I would mute my tv. Lol ..so funny how he sees it now. The talking heads drive me insane.

Moo moo moo

CGW
03-05-2012, 05:33 PM
The prosecutors did their job and so did the jury! Thanks for not "hanging" and for working through the evidence to get to Guilty in the 1st! Justice prevailed today and CY will be safe with her father in Central Prison for the rest of his life. JY chose not to speak when offered by the court today (Shocker). The Judge nailed it with his post verdict commentary supporting the jury's decision 100%. Love the passive/aggressive tongue lashing the Judge gave JY. The system worked today folks and my faith in it has been restored (a little bit). On a side note, for those that thought NG, I thank you for your perspective and for making it a two sided argument that made those of us on the G side have to back up our points of view! A one-sided argument is never very thought provoking, so we should all be respectful for those willing to put up some thoughtful discussion. RIP Michelle and Rylan, may you now rest in peace knowing that CY is safe in the hands of your sister and mother (aunt/grandmother). JMO

Tipstaff
03-05-2012, 05:33 PM
I missed it if the camera showed JY's face. Did anyone see it?

Camera showed just a side view and all I could see was the veins on the side of his head jut out - but not much of reaction. Not much of reaction from PY either.

Try to catch the judge's comments if you can.

Madeleine74
03-05-2012, 05:33 PM
JTF had GoRealtors on the phone and me on IM. LOL. Dude had all bases covered.

Thank you Howard Cummings, Becky Holt, Sgt Spivey and all the men and women who worked on this case for almost 6 years!

TigerBalm
03-05-2012, 05:33 PM
Michelle's boss is speaking live to news anchors right now
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=7134148

johnfear
03-05-2012, 05:33 PM
Was that at the end from our GG's thread?

Thanks to everyone for tolerating my skepticism. (I'm off to have a shot!)

cody100
03-05-2012, 05:34 PM
JS was so compelling with his comments. IF he had given the closing, the jury would have not taken any time to convict. I am happy that resolution has been given to the Fishers. There is no joy for them, but they can finally put some closure to this portion of MY's death. Nothing will bring MY back though.

I wonder what was the deciding factor or factors were for the jury.

SteelerGirl43
03-05-2012, 05:35 PM
RIP Michelle & Rylan...

Prayers for all involved... That includes his family because they did NOT ask to be brought into this....

calamityjane831
03-05-2012, 05:35 PM
Thank God for those 4 jurors that held out from the first trial. That must have been very difficult to do. They probably feel closure too. IMHO

knicksgal1
03-05-2012, 05:36 PM
I can't stop crying.

I am so grateful for the investigators who worked exhaustively to track down leads and preserve evidence. Spivey et all.

I am so grateful to Attorneys Holt and Cummings who presented a case that the jurors could follow.

I am so grateful to 4 on the original jury who would not be swayed to NG.

I am so grateful to this jury for working hard and being dedicated to coming to a verdict. And for serving period.

I am so grateful for Judge Stephen's for running the trial so fairly and in the end speaking out so eloquently for Michelle and Rylan. I sobbed during his response to setting aside the verdict.

I am so sorry for Meredith, Linda and Cassidy that this decision still can't bring Michelle and Rylan back to them. I hope the fact that earthly justice was served is some relief/comfort to them. Meredith's sobs broke my heart.

I am also thinking of all of Michelle's friends and other family and wish comfort for them as well.

I no longer need to think about the Slayer and worry that he will get away with such a brutal killing. He will pay the price for that and for all the extra pain he put Meredith, Cassidy and Linda through afterwards by his actions and inactions.

I am grateful to you all for the discussions and being here.

aliciabal
03-05-2012, 05:36 PM
I'm glad that the jury did their duty. It was hard to wait for the verdict but it seems they worked hard to reach it. Even if they had found NG, I would feel the same. The part that chilled me is about the stripping of the rings. It all just hit home. He really did this with malice and hatred. Michelle and Rylan never had a chance. Look at all the devastation his selfish act caused. Two dead; families torn apart-for what? At least he will be imprisoned and unable to hurt anyone in this way again.

LaMer
03-05-2012, 05:36 PM
Maybe Jason should be given a framed copy for his cell.

Didn't OJ have one? Or am thinking of someone else?

I think it might have been SP! :maddening:

terminatrixator
03-05-2012, 05:36 PM
JTF had GoRealtors on the phone and me on IM. LOL. Dude had all bases covered.

Thank you Howard Cummings, Becky Holt, Sgt Spivey and all the men and women who worked on this case for almost 6 years!

I am sad that he couldn't be in the courtroom today. He really deserved to be able to see this live.

mck16
03-05-2012, 05:36 PM
I missed it if the camera showed JY's face. Did anyone see it?

Somewhat, but he was stone faced. I think his brow was a little more crinkled and his vein on the side of his head was bulging more than it has the whole trial. jmo

NCB
03-05-2012, 05:37 PM
I wish wral would turn off their video and post a replay of the verdict! Driving me crazy I missed it.

I'm sorry you missed the verdict! WRAL has closed their live feed and the message states it will be available for replay shortly. Also, HLN is covering it, and I'm sure they'll replay the actual verdict many times over the next few hours. Vinne's show starts at 5PM.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 05:37 PM
Watching channel 11 right now. Michelle's boss. And a half hour program at 7:00 pm. on channel 5.

oakayfine
03-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Right. Everytime he would discuss this case I would mute my tv. Lol ..so funny how he sees it now. The talking heads drive me insane.

Moo moo moo

Isn't he supposed to be a "past detective" in WDC? No wonder the crime rate is so high there! I live 25 miles from there and am still scared due to the likes of him!!

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 05:39 PM
gracielee, what is her boss saying? tia

Madeleine74
03-05-2012, 05:39 PM
In case anyone didn't get the message, this case was

DOMESTIC HOMICIDAL VIOLENCE ! So said the judge.

The judge also said it is clear that Jason Young has "significant mental illness, significant anger issues, and a significant problem with women."

raisincharlie
03-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Justice, finally...

Just the Fax
03-05-2012, 05:41 PM
I now have faith again in our system of justice!!!!
I am so happy for the Fishers.
Thank God this jury weighed the overwhelming evidence and used their common sense.
Jason Lynn Young will never again walk among us and will rot in maximum security prison.

3doglady
03-05-2012, 05:43 PM
gracielee, what is her boss saying? tia

I just heard the last question. She said she did not know JY but did suspect him after the murder.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 05:43 PM
gracielee, what is her boss saying? tia

She was just talking about how happy, bouncy, always smiling, Michelle was at work. And how she obviously hid all the stress she was under at home. How all during this time, she kept up that happy spirit at work. She said she'd never met jason young, and she found out about michelle's murder was when she got home from work that afternoon. Someone from work called her and told her. She said after attending the first trial some and listening to it as we do here, online, she suspected it was JLY who had killed her. She talked about hugging Linda and Meredith today, she was in court today for the verdict, with Linda and Meredith.

hindsight2020
03-05-2012, 05:44 PM
Cassidy is now safe, Michelle's memory will forever live in her heart.

RIP . Michelle Marie Fisher and baby Rylan. . .Justice has finally been served!

gracielee
03-05-2012, 05:45 PM
I now have faith again in our system of justice!!!!
I am so happy for the Fishers.
Thank God this jury weighed the overwhelming evidence and used their common sense.
Jason Lynn Young will never again walk among us and will rot in maximum security prison.

THANK YOU JTF, for your continual support for Michelle and Rylan! You did a great job, never ever gave up. Wish I could hug you tonight. :)

Boodles
03-05-2012, 05:45 PM
In case anyone didn't get the message, this case was

DOMESTIC HOMICIDAL VIOLENCE ! So said the judge.

The judge also said it is clear that Jason Young has "significant mental illness, significant anger issues, and a significant problem with women."

Did you hear the judge's voice shaking? He was emotional reading that statement. Subtle but noticeable.

w1df10wr
03-05-2012, 05:46 PM
"No one wants to be contacted today - no one wants to be 'harassed' by the press"

Hopefully, this request will be respected.

RIP Michelle & Rylan:rose:

terminatrixator
03-05-2012, 05:46 PM
THANK YOU JTF, for your continual support for Michelle and Rylan! You did a great job, never ever gave up. Wish I could hug you tonight. :)

Sending hugs your way also!

gracielee
03-05-2012, 05:47 PM
Channel 11 repeating judges statement right now.

3doglady
03-05-2012, 05:48 PM
She was just talking about how happy, bouncy, always smiling, Michelle was at work. And how she obviously hid all the stress she was under at home. How all during this time, she kept up that happy spirit at work. She said she'd never met jason young, and she found out about michelle's murder was when she got home from work that afternoon. Someone from work called her and told her. She said after attending the first trial some and listening to it as we do here, online, she suspected it was JLY who had killed her. She talked about hugging Linda and Meredith today, she was in court today for the verdict, with Linda and Meredith.

My brother did not know MY well but that's the way he described her as well. He said she was very friendly and out going, always smiling when he saw her. He said the rumor at PE immediately after the murder was that JY was having affairs and that he killed her.

pjcitizen
03-05-2012, 05:49 PM
That is one impressive judge right there.

Madeleine74
03-05-2012, 05:49 PM
And now Jason Young is considered legally as being 'deceased' the day before his wife. That means he has NO rights to his child ever again. She never has to hear from him, hear of him, or have any contact with him unless she so chooses when she's an adult.

sweetmop
03-05-2012, 05:49 PM
Thank you to the Jurors for using their common sense and connecting the pieces!
Finally Michelle and Baby Rylan can rest in peace!!!

Grammy Jean
03-05-2012, 05:49 PM
So i think jury knew at lunch! came back and filled out forms.

I agree and it was almost an exact scenario with BC trial

gitana1
03-05-2012, 05:50 PM
I too, missed the verdict. About an hour late and just caught up on all verdict commentary!

This was a just verdict. I feel so grateful that the jury was able to put the pieces together and understand that there are often inconsistencies in a case that cannot be resolved but that nevertheless, do not create a doubt that is reasonable.

I have a feeling some juries are tending to be more cautious and more inclined to really work since the casey anthony verdict. Having a killer walk free is never safe for society.

I feel a huge sense of relief, especially after reading the impassioned doubts of some of our posters who were steadfast in their opinions and concerns. I did not agree but some of the arguments were good ones and made me squirm!!

Thank you everyone for educating me about this case. Love you guys!!!!!!!

May Michelle's family feel some, small sense of peace from this. They can at least rest with the knowledge that the person who brutalized their sister/daughter/mother will never be free to harm another again. He is where he needs to be and will remain there until he meets his maker to account for what he did.

A final note, jason young did not react much because the guilty rarely do. They know what they did and deep down, they expect punishment and realize it is just.

Madeleine74
03-05-2012, 05:51 PM
Did you hear the judge's voice shaking? He was emotional reading that statement. Subtle but noticeable.

I sure did! Gessner choked up a bit when he sentenced BC to LWOP as well. These cases are so, so sad.

hotmomma35
03-05-2012, 05:51 PM
Does anyone know if they are allowed to have water/coffee/anything in the jury room?

I just had jury duty a month ago and it was on a murder case.... There is a bathroom inside the deliberating room and you have ice water and coffee in the rrom also.... you just cant leave the room for anything else. they even brought us our lunch and cold drinks inside the room....

Lucky89
03-05-2012, 05:51 PM
RIP Michelle & Rylan!!! God Bless these jurors, Judge Stephens, Howard Cummings, Becky Holt, Det Spivey & all of LE that worked this case. May Linda, Meredith and Cassidy find peace!!!

sweetmop
03-05-2012, 05:53 PM
I'm crying.
Just got in the door!
Crying too.
I am so so very thankful.
Justice served!!!

Lucylu7
03-05-2012, 05:53 PM
Dang it, I missed it!! But am SO RELIEVED the jury found him guilty!!!!!!

Me too,checked back in and saw guilty verdict,very glad,but now have to go and watch the video.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 05:59 PM
My brother did not know MY well but that's the way he described her as well. He said she was very friendly and out going, always smiling when he saw her. He said the rumor at PE immediately after the murder was that JY was having affairs and that he killed her.

I remember the first news reports on this one. We still lived inside the city of Raleigh then. Now we are out in Johnston Co. But I remember it like it was yesterday, each day scanning the N&O and all the local channels for news. Posting on usenet. And the more evidence that came out, the more it looked like an inside job. When he hired Roger Smith before the funeral, man, who does that? NEVER talking to police, NEVER inquiring how his wife died, NEVER inquiring as to the investigation.. WHO KILLED MY WIFE.

Hubby just brought me a big glass of chardonnay. :)

Channel 11 now bringing up Gracie's testimony. Obviously the jury believed our Gracie.

TigerBalm
03-05-2012, 06:00 PM
Vinnie Politan ‏ @VinniePolitan
Jason Young's prosecutors join me live at 5! HLN Special Report... Jason Young GUILTY LWOP

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:01 PM
That is one impressive judge right there.

My husband served on a jury under Judge Stephens once and he totally was impressed by him. Hubby hates jury service, but totally liked Judge Donald Stephens. He has a twin brother, Ronald, also a judge, but retired.

Paige SC
03-05-2012, 06:02 PM
May I have a link to Chan 11 as I can't seem to find it?

Shelby1
03-05-2012, 06:02 PM
Oh yeah, that vein is really standing out.

Shelby1
03-05-2012, 06:03 PM
I remember the first news reports on this one. We still lived inside the city of Raleigh then. Now we are out in Johnston Co. But I remember it like it was yesterday, each day scanning the N&O and all the local channels for news. Posting on usenet. And the more evidence that came out, the more it looked like an inside job. When he hired Roger Smith before the funeral, man, who does that? NEVER talking to police, NEVER inquiring how his wife died, NEVER inquiring as to the investigation.. WHO KILLED MY WIFE.

Hubby just brought me a big glass of chardonnay. :)

Channel 11 now bringing up Gracie's testimony. Obviously the jury believed our Gracie.


Yep, definitely time for wine. I'm going to pour a nice red!

octobermoon
03-05-2012, 06:03 PM
I too, missed the verdict. About an hour late and just caught up on all verdict commentary!

This was a just verdict. I feel so grateful that the jury was able to put the pieces together and understand that there are often inconsistencies in a case that cannot be resolved but that nevertheless, do not create a doubt that is reasonable.

I have a feeling some juries are tending to be more cautious and more inclined to really work since the casey anthony verdict. Having a killer walk free is never safe for society.

I feel a huge sense of relief, especially after reading the impassioned doubts of some of our posters who were steadfast in their opinions and concerns. I did not agree but some of the arguments were good ones and made me squirm!!

Thank you everyone for educating me about this case. Love you guys!!!!!!!

May Michelle's family feel some, small sense of peace from this. They can at least rest with the knowledge that the person who brutalized their sister/daughter/mother will never be free to harm another again. He is where he needs to be and will remain there until he meets his maker to account for what he did.

A final note, jason young did not react much because the guilty rarely do. They know what they did and deep down, they expect punishment and realize it is just.


:clap:

Grammy Jean
03-05-2012, 06:03 PM
This does not bring back the beautiful mother of CY sister of MF, daughter of LF but I believe it helps them have closure. I am so proud of this jury and PT.
I also want to thank all the ws community. I feel like I made some friends here even though I never met you. WE have all gone through this emotional trial together.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:04 PM
Howard & Becky on HLN right now.

pjcitizen
03-05-2012, 06:04 PM
May I have a link to Chan 11 as I can't seem to find it?

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=7134148

fromageball
03-05-2012, 06:07 PM
Jail is a cake walk, from what I understand. JY is going to prison! Don't know if it will be today, but his party is over.

I only saw the reading of the verdict - he wasn't taken away right away? Seems like after being handed LWOP he would be considered the ultimate flight risk...

JSR
03-05-2012, 06:08 PM
I too, missed the verdict. About an hour late and just caught up on all verdict commentary!

This was a just verdict. I feel so grateful that the jury was able to put the pieces together and understand that there are often inconsistencies in a case that cannot be resolved but that nevertheless, do not create a doubt that is reasonable.

I have a feeling some juries are tending to be more cautious and more inclined to really work since the casey anthony verdict. Having a killer walk free is never safe for society.

I feel a huge sense of relief, especially after reading the impassioned doubts of some of our posters who were steadfast in their opinions and concerns. I did not agree but some of the arguments were good ones and made me squirm!!

Thank you everyone for educating me about this case. Love you guys!!!!!!!

May Michelle's family feel some, small sense of peace from this. They can at least rest with the knowledge that the person who brutalized their sister/daughter/mother will never be free to harm another again. He is where he needs to be and will remain there until he meets his maker to account for what he did.

A final note, jason young did not react much because the guilty rarely do. They know what they did and deep down, they expect punishment and realize it is just.

BBM.

I also think that's why there was no reaction from Jason's Mother. I think she knew that Jason killed Michelle but much like Jason thought that the murder was justified and even necessary.

ynotdivein
03-05-2012, 06:08 PM
fromage, he was turned over to the custody of Sheriffs immediately after the sentencing and led out of court.

3doglady
03-05-2012, 06:08 PM
HC very emotional saying he is going to spend time with his daughters now.

pjcitizen
03-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Wow HC choking up on HLN.

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Howard & Becky on HLN right now.

I bet they are so proud of themselves. (and thank you for the updates for those of us sans teevees!)

NCEast
03-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Oh my gosh, HC just kinda broke down when Vinnie asked him what he was going to do tonight as in celebrating.....HC's voice broke, his face became distorted, and he said he was going to spend time with his 2 little girls. Oh Howard, big hugs to you!

NCEast
03-05-2012, 06:12 PM
BBM.

I also think that's why there was no reaction from Jason's Mother. I think she knew that Jason killed Michelle but much like Jason thought that the murder was justified and even necessary.

I think she knew he was guilty too. It's another of those innate senses that mothers have. Even if they have never, ever talked about it, she knew. That's exactly why she was stoic during/after the verdict was read.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:12 PM
Channel 11 appears to be having non stop coverage of this verdict. Repeating the judges findings once again. I always knew Judge Stephens KNEW he was guilty. He was aware of ALL the evidence.

Video now on 11 of jason being led into an elevator after being hauled off by the sheriff.

LaMer
03-05-2012, 06:14 PM
Howard & Becky on HLN right now.

O wow, great job KUDOS to them!

Caught a replay of JY there too, the veins in his head were protruding during his sentencing!

JSR
03-05-2012, 06:15 PM
I hope this very just verdict serves as a cautionary reminder to spouses all over the country that MURDER is not the answer to a marriage that is no longer working (and in the Young's marriage I don't think it ever worked correctly). As Sharon Rocha stated in Laci's murder trial Murder is not the answer. I wish men like BC, Scott Peterson, and Jason could have realized that divorce would have not ruined them and is a far better choice than sitting behind bars for the rest of their life.

I have some small measure of belief in our juries again. The justice system doesn't always work as was evident in the Casey Anthony case but this time justice won out. I hope this gives some measure of peace to Michelle and Rylan.

Amster
03-05-2012, 06:16 PM
HC very emotional saying he is going to spend time with his daughters now.

Has 2 little girls....probably thinking of baby girl Cassidy watching her mommy get beat to death by daddy. Absolutely horrid! What a burden he's been carrying to get justice for Michelle and Cassidy. He was laughed at, ridiculed and made fun of by a few....but, in the end...he's going home to his babies and Jason Young is on his way to prison! Good job, HC! :twocents:

NCEast
03-05-2012, 06:16 PM
Vinnie's show did a flashback to last year's hung jury and Judge S. He head was bent over reading the hung verdict. I couldn't help but notice how much hair he has lost on the top of his head just since last June. Being a judge must be one of the most emotionally draining jobs in the world. When he was denying the defense motion today he made mention that he was thinking about this case one night last week. So he takes his job home with him. I suppose we never really know how deeply the judges in these high profile cases internalize them.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:18 PM
Beth Karras just said they did have victim impact statements prepared, but the family chose not to give them. They were just too emotional to present them. :(

ynotdivein
03-05-2012, 06:18 PM
Vinnie interviewing Mark NeJame on HLN now.

nursebeeme
03-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Beth Karras just said they did have victim impact statements prepared, but the family chose not to give them. They were just too emotional to present them. :(

I wondered what happened with those....

Samiya
03-05-2012, 06:20 PM
I can't say much apart from OHHH YEAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!

Stella5
03-05-2012, 06:21 PM
I only saw the reading of the verdict - he wasn't taken away right away? Seems like after being handed LWOP he would be considered the ultimate flight risk...

DT moved to dismiss, judge gave JY a tongue lashing in his denial of the dismissal request and then JS rendered JY over to the custody of the Sheriff. He's probably processing as we type!

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:22 PM
So glad Vinnie is back. Mike Brooks, what a different song you sing today. Both Brooks and Sunny. Jerks. Didn't even watch the trial, yet they had continual opinons based on wrong or non-existent evidence. :(

JSR
03-05-2012, 06:23 PM
I think she knew he was guilty too. It's another of those innate senses that mothers have. Even if they have never, ever talked about it, she knew. That's exactly why she was stoic during/after the verdict was read.

Personally I don't think it was a sense. I think she out right knew. I think Jason told her he did and she circled the wagons.

luvlife
03-05-2012, 06:23 PM
This verdict was not only won, it was proven.......JY had way to many lies to cover, dishonest, and an awful person that should never have been around children or women.

cluciano63
03-05-2012, 06:26 PM
I am getting more and more relieved as the hours pass...this was such a terrible vicious murder and I never had an ounce of doubt that he did it...it would be sickening, IMO, if he had been acquitted...

Boodles
03-05-2012, 06:26 PM
fromage, he was turned over to the custody of Sheriffs immediately after the sentencing and led out of court.

Yes, he was "accompanied" by several officers, and then several others followed. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply he was not in custody, just not whether he has been taken to prison yet (vs jail).

3doglady
03-05-2012, 06:27 PM
Gracie will be on HLN with Vinnie next hour.

NCEast
03-05-2012, 06:27 PM
Gracie (the gas station attendant per Vinnie) will be joining him within the next hour.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:27 PM
Oh, our Gracie is going to be on HLN next hour! They believed our Gracie!! :)

enzeder
03-05-2012, 06:28 PM
Video: Jason Young murder trial verdict
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/10813551/#/vid10813551

BritsKate
03-05-2012, 06:28 PM
You know I lost my mom at 29 and I cannot even begin to imagine the pain of never really knowing her. I pray little C is surrounded with a lifetime of love and laughter with her own guardian angel watching over her.

If any good comes of Michelle's murder I hope it shines a very bright light on emotional, verbal and psychological abuse. The presumption is too often made by too many that if you are not hit you are not abused and/or in danger.

I hope Michelle is with Laci, Summer, Susan, Venus, Lori, Nancy, Janet and all the other mothers whose lives were so cruelly ripped away by those who vowed to love them - all watching over their little ones.

NCEast
03-05-2012, 06:29 PM
Personally I don't think it was a sense. I think she out right knew. I think Jason told her he did and she circled the wagons.

You may be right. Something is just 'off' with that entire family.
I love my children more than life itself, but I would never condone, uphold, or aid and abet any one of them in something like this.

Mama-cita
03-05-2012, 06:29 PM
Personally I don't think it was a sense. I think she out right knew. I think Jason told her he did and she circled the wagons.

I completely agree JSR and like her son I think she "blamed Michelle" for the whole thing. Her hatred of Michelle was evident with her comments on the stand "Michelle didn't like it of course". "they had to go to Starbucks bc Michelle didn't like Gerald's coffee..."

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:30 PM
Now mike brooks is all of a sudden spouting off about jly 'not talking to LE'. How 'if my wife had been murdered I'd talk to authorities, I'd want to know what happened to her', 'yadda yadda yadda'. <mod snip>. Yesterday or last week it was all about 'reasonable doubt' with mike brooks.

Boodles
03-05-2012, 06:30 PM
Regarding Jason's lack of emotion, seems that's his normal court demeanor, and they already said the "appeal" word in court, the specifics of which I could not hear. They are just moving on to the next phase. Jason will never accept this.

Do the taxpayers have to pay for his appeal as well like we did for the Public Defender or does he have to fund his own appeal?

Wolfpack
03-05-2012, 06:33 PM
Regarding Jason's lack of emotion, seems that's his normal court demeanor, and they already said the "appeal" word in court, the specifics of which I could not hear. They are just moving on to the next phase. Jason will never accept this.

Do the taxpayers have to pay for his appeal as well like we did for the Public Defender or does he have to fund his own appeal?

It would be out of the ordinary for the loser (defendant in this case) not to state their appeal immediately upon the verdict.

He will be assigned an appellate defender (Office of Appellate Defenders are in Durham), and the State will be represented by the Attorney General's office.

Mama-cita
03-05-2012, 06:33 PM
Regarding Jason's lack of emotion, seems that's his normal court demeanor, and they already said the "appeal" word in court, the specifics of which I could not hear. They are just moving on to the next phase. Jason will never accept this.

Do the taxpayers have to pay for his appeal as well like we did for the Public Defender or does he have to fund his own appeal?

Calling gritguy!! He can answer this for us. Gritguy do you see any type of "reverseable" error which might cause an appeal??

oceanblueeyes
03-05-2012, 06:34 PM
Regarding Jason's lack of emotion, seems that's his normal court demeanor, and they already said the "appeal" word in court, the specifics of which I could not hear. They are just moving on to the next phase. Jason will never accept this.

Do the taxpayers have to pay for his appeal as well like we did for the Public Defender or does he have to fund his own appeal?

The taxpayers will pay for his appeal.

imo

pjcitizen
03-05-2012, 06:35 PM
I hope the jurors take a nice break this evening and then tell us the scoop tomorrow.

JSR
03-05-2012, 06:35 PM
I completely agree JSR and like her son I think she "blamed Michelle" for the whole thing. Her hatred of Michelle was evident with her comments on the stand "Michelle didn't like it of course". "they had to go to Starbucks bc Michelle didn't like Gerald's coffee..."

I agree. I think her testimony certainly showed a very deep dislike for her former daughter-in-law. Dislike that has carried over that many years and even after her violent brutal death is very telling.

I also agree it appears that there are families out there that just don't quite seem "right". The Anthonys are one, The Youngs are another, and Scott's family also had issues. Those issues don't excuse the murders but it certainly is interesting to note the similarities.

Cortne
03-05-2012, 06:35 PM
THERE IS A GOD!! Yes!!

oceanblueeyes
03-05-2012, 06:36 PM
Calling gritguy!! He can answer this for us. Gritguy do you see any type of "reverseable" error which might cause an appeal??

I think Vinnie mentioned the second degree being added and the part about him being in concert with someone else when the evidence didnt support that.

He will lose his appeal though. The evidence pointing to guilt was overwhelming.

IMO

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03-05-2012, 06:37 PM
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Stella5
03-05-2012, 06:37 PM
NeJame... "this was a common sense jury"

I couldn't agree more!

JSR
03-05-2012, 06:37 PM
Calling gritguy!! He can answer this for us. Gritguy do you see any type of "reverseable" error which might cause an appeal??

The only thing that concerned me is the introduction of the wrongful death suit and it's outcome.

hindsight2020
03-05-2012, 06:38 PM
Calling gritguy!! He can answer this for us. Gritguy do you see any type of "reverseable" error which might cause an appeal??

An attorney at CNN, mentioned that criminal appeals are extremely difficult to win.

Tricia
03-05-2012, 06:38 PM
I will be closing this thread in a couple of minutes.

gracielee
03-05-2012, 06:43 PM
You may be right. Something is just 'off' with that entire family.
I love my children more than life itself, but I would never condone, uphold, or aid and abet any one of them in something like this.

You are so right, NC. When my children did something wrong, I was the first one to march them over to apologize. To make RIGHT whatever it was they did wrong. I never took the position 'my child would never do that.' I grilled my kids, like a detective, to get to the truth. If my kid was in the right, I fought for them, but if they were in the wrong, they paid the price. They learned very young, what they did was their responsibility to make amends for. Too bad the little Imp was never made to behave properly. :maddening: Perhaps Michelle would be alive today if everything JLY did wasn't condoned.

Tricia
03-05-2012, 06:44 PM
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