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mysteriew
03-29-2012, 12:07 AM
The U.S Supreme Court rejected a petition Tuesday to hear the competency case of a convicted serial killer whose victims include a 10-year-old Beaumont boy.
http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county/the-pass/the-pass-headlinesindex/20120328-beaumont-supreme-court-turns-down-killers-case.ece


Duncan has a whole forum in the archives, mostly found in the Trials thread. I really wouldn't mind if it stayed buried.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
05-18-2012, 02:55 AM
Joseph Duncan Scheduled For A Court Hearing Friday Morning

Convicted murderer Joseph Duncan is back in the state of Idaho for a court hearing scheduled Friday morning.

[snip]

Duncan passed these tests before and if he passes this latest test, his death penalty will stand. if he fails that could mean prosecutors may have to retry him.

More: http://www.khq.com/story/18532377/joseph-duncan-scheduled-for-a-court-hearing-friday-morning

Coldpizza
05-18-2012, 12:48 PM
I'm in shock about this. There's a possibility he could be re tried for the murder of Dylan?

If that happens, it just can't happen.

Liz
05-19-2012, 01:50 AM
If I heard the 6 o'clock news right ....
Now that he went back to court, he decided to appeal his death sentence!?!?!
:mad:

Ugh. It's way past time for this beast to be killed!
:banghead:

mysteriew
05-19-2012, 02:53 AM
Jazzy likes attention. He must not feel he is getting enough on Death Row.

He made his deals. I think when he agreed to plead guilty that he thought someone would think that makes him worthwhile. But it didn't. Now he wants attention, and he has had time to think about his decisions. And besides that it is in his nature to rebel from society. To me saying I didn't mean to plead guilty means about as much as saying yeah I kidnapped that kid and killed him and I am sorry. Sorry is just too late. And the same goes with saying I didn't mean to plead guilty. Too late.

If they would just inject him we wouldn't have him filing all these appeals.

Liz
05-19-2012, 12:45 PM
It seems Joseph Duncan is now on board for his appeals. He submitted a hand written letter explaining he now thinks he can't force his beliefs on others and because of the the love of his mother he must appeal. He goes on and on about how his mother loves him, and he should live for her sake. He even brings up his deceased brother that he says recently died -- his poor brother died years ago. He makes a passing comment about causing harm to others and then dives right back into the pain his mother has suffered and how devoted she is to him. His appeal hearing was set for January 12, 2011 and this slimy letter to consider his endorsement of the appeals is dated December 8, 2010. With Duncan it is always about control.

I'd forgotten all about the above post, which was posted back on 12-15-10.

Now, it's all coming back to me ..... unfortunately. :sick:
Damn! Here we go again!

My heart goes out to Steve and Shasta, and family. I'll be keeping them in my thoughts and prayers. I just hate that they have to keep having this evil demon resurface in their lives!

Liz
05-19-2012, 12:55 PM
Found a couple more articles.

Duncan changes mind, says he now wants to appeal his death sentence
May 18, 2012 3:14 p.m. • 1 comment


Notorious multiple murderer Joseph Duncan was back in a Boise courtroom this morning, as lawyers and a federal judge wrangled over setting a date for a new hearing into whether Duncan was mentally competent when he waived appeals of his triple death sentence for torturing and murdering a 9-year-old North Idaho boy.

More at link:
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2012/may/18/duncan-changes-mind-says-he-now-wants-appeal-his-death-sentence/

Duncan alters course on sentence appeal
Citing concern for his mother, murderer wrote to ask judge for defense attorneys
May 19, 2012 in Idaho

“It would be utterly cruel, and indeed, inhuman, for me not to consider my mother’s love when deciding what to do in regard to my own life,” Duncan advised U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge. “So I hereby inform you, and any others concerned, that I withdraw my waiver of appeal and consent fully to all efforts and advice given by my attorneys to appeal.

“I love my mother, and if I could only regret one thing, it would be how I have hurt her. I am the biggest fool that I know.”

More at link:
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/may/19/duncan-alters-course-on-sentence-appeal/

What a total waste of time and taxpayer's money! :moo:
(Notice he didn't regret killing four people (make that 5 counting Anthony) and kidnapping Shasta and making her witness such horror!)

bessie
05-23-2012, 01:46 AM
Duncan Faces Review in Idaho Torture, Killing Case

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - A man convicted of killing children in Idaho and California and suspected in the deaths of two Washington girls has returned to U.S. District Court in Boise to prepare for a complicated review of part of his death penalty case.http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Duncan-faces-review-in-Idaho-torture-killing-case-152126935.html

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
05-24-2012, 02:10 AM
I really don't understand what there is to review.

http://www.murderpedia.org/male.D/images/duncan_joseph/v004.jpg

Openmind
05-24-2012, 09:25 PM
Typical Duncan up to his old tricks. My question is if the review upholds that he was competent to defend himself at the sentencing phase and the death penalty stands, does that end his appeals and we can get on with his execution?

mysteriew
05-24-2012, 11:37 PM
Strange how he seems to think. He hasn't seemed sorry for torturing kids. But I guess that didn't hurt his Mom. He doesn't seem remorseful for killing a family. But maybe Mom ddn't care about that. He is no longer even showing an appearance of remorse for the abduction of two children and for torturing them and killing one. Or for the damage he caused the survivor. Maybe Mom wasn't concerned about that either. But now for not fighting the death penalty, a penalty he was legally and justly given IMO, now that he has dcided to fight on his mother's behalf? Maybe he needs to think about giving his mother some closure, by continuing with the death penalty without appeal. Then Mom can begin mourning for him and finally put him behind her.

Openmind
05-25-2012, 11:52 PM
Strange how he seems to think. He hasn't seemed sorry for torturing kids. But I guess that didn't hurt his Mom. He doesn't seem remorseful for killing a family. But maybe Mom ddn't care about that. He is no longer even showing an appearance of remorse for the abduction of two children and for torturing them and killing one. Or for the damage he caused the survivor. Maybe Mom wasn't concerned about that either. But now for not fighting the death penalty, a penalty he was legally and justly given IMO, now that he has dcided to fight on his mother's behalf? Maybe he needs to think about giving his mother some closure, by continuing with the death penalty without appeal. Then Mom can begin mourning for him and finally put him behind her.

This is just another of Duncan's attempts to look human. His brother has been dead for nearly five years even before his trial in Boise when he wasn't the least bit concerned about his mother's needs. He is hiding behind his mother like he hid/hides behind Shasta. Duncan just enjoys jerking us all around. He is a master maniplulator and, incredibly, he still has friends that will help him out. As long as he lives, he will be whining he is the victim and accusing and abusing everyone else.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
06-04-2012, 01:31 AM
Wasn't sure where to put this, as I don't think we have a general thread just for the Groene case anymore. But I thought it needed to be posted.


We thought it could never happen here

Seven years ago today one of the most brutal crimes ever to take place in our community claimed the lives of Brenda Groene, her middle-school aged son Slade and her fiance Mark McKenzie. Brenda's two youngest children, Dylan, 9 and Shasta, 7 had been kidnapped by the murderer.

More: www.cdapress.com/columns/kerri_thoreson/article_f926a8fa-bcd5-502b-a14a-e19fc536d2f4.html

Openmind
06-07-2012, 04:13 PM
BOISE – A court hearing on whether condemned murderer Joseph Duncan was mentally competent when he waived his right to appeal his death sentence has been set for Jan. 8, 2013.
“There will be no extension,” U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge said Monday as he set the hearing.


http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/jun/05/duncans-competency-hearing-set/

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
06-07-2012, 08:18 PM
Seriously? January? Ugh.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
09-11-2012, 02:35 AM
Judge: Duncan can be examined by government expert

A federal judge says prosecutors can have their own psychiatrist interview a convicted child killer as they fight to prove he was competent when he waived his right to appeal his death sentence.

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/09/10/4806297/judge-duncan-can-be-examined-by.html



Joseph Edward Duncan can be examined by government expert, judge says

[snip]

He gave up his appeals in the Idaho case, but his former attorneys appealed on his behalf, and an appellate court said Lodge must determine whether Duncan was mentally competent back in 2008 when he waived his rights.

More: http://www.mydesert.com/viewart/20120910/NEWS0802/309100004/Judge-Government-expert-can-examine-child-killer?odyssey=nav|head



Supreme Court rejects petition from mass murderer Duncan

The U.S. Supreme Court won't consider whether a man convicted of kidnapping, torturing and murdering some members of a northern Idaho family was competent when he waived his appeal.

The high court rejected the petition from Joseph Edward Duncan III's attorneys on Monday. Now a federal judge in Idaho must hold a hearing to determine if Duncan was competent when he waived his appeal in a 2008 death penalty case.

More: http://www.ravallirepublic.com/news/state-and-regional/article_eb81f852-edaf-5ad8-beea-abbf05bd5381.html

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
10-01-2012, 12:32 AM
Shasta Groene hosts fundraiser for animal shelters


Shasta Groene, the sole survivor of one of North Idaho’s most high-profile murder cases, hosted a fundraiser for local animal shelters in Post Falls.

Groene is now 15 years old. She said she wanted to use the attention she gets to do some good.

http://www.krem.com/news/Shasta-Groene-hosts--172025401.html

VIDEO WITH SHASTA AT LINK.

kline
10-01-2012, 04:22 AM
Strange how he seems to think. He hasn't seemed sorry for torturing kids. But I guess that didn't hurt his Mom. He doesn't seem remorseful for killing a family. But maybe Mom ddn't care about that. He is no longer even showing an appearance of remorse for the abduction of two children and for torturing them and killing one. Or for the damage he caused the survivor. Maybe Mom wasn't concerned about that either. But now for not fighting the death penalty, a penalty he was legally and justly given IMO, now that he has dcided to fight on his mother's behalf? Maybe he needs to think about giving his mother some closure, by continuing with the death penalty without appeal. Then Mom can begin mourning for him and finally put him behind her.
This animal just flat out needs to be put down.
If their was ever a personification of pure, banal,narcistic evil it is 'Jazzy Jett' Duncan.
And your absolutely right this is just more attention seeking manipulation on his part.
He really expected that his 'Redemption'....his totaly 'selfless' act of denying himself the pleasure of torturing Shasta Groene to death was going to leave not a dry eye in the house.
Dont think he quite got the reaction he wanted.
I just wish they could strap his doctor buddy from North Dakota who financially sponsered his road trip west down on the same gurney when its time so they could spoon together one last time before giving them both the hot shot.
Not very Christian of me I know.

Quiche
10-12-2012, 01:11 AM
Shasta has grown to look like her mother. Does my heart good to see her so well (and Steve, too). :heartbeat:

Openmind
10-19-2012, 09:09 PM
This animal just flat out needs to be put down.
If their was ever a personification of pure, banal,narcistic evil it is 'Jazzy Jett' Duncan.
And your absolutely right this is just more attention seeking manipulation on his part.
He really expected that his 'Redemption'....his totaly 'selfless' act of denying himself the pleasure of torturing Shasta Groene to death was going to leave not a dry eye in the house.
Dont think he quite got the reaction he wanted.
I just wish they could strap his doctor buddy from North Dakota who financially sponsered his road trip west down on the same gurney when its time so they could spoon together one last time before giving them both the hot shot.
Not very Christian of me I know.

I will always think Duncan let Shasta live so he could play the hero as portraying himself as her savior. He could be the ultimate monster with his brutal murder of Dylan and then be redeemed by "saving" Shasta. In the California transcripts of his mental evaluation, it reported he has had many epiphanies in his past. He is just evil and he will be evil on the day he dies -- no matter what the cause of his demise may be.

Openmind
01-06-2013, 06:19 PM
One of the state's most notorious killers is back in Boise for a court hearing.
Joseph Edward Duncan III is in solitary confinement at the Ada County Jail, where he arrived Thursday about noon. U.S. marshals transported him on a private plane from a federal prison in the Seattle area.
Duncan, 49, is on federal death row for the kidnapping, rape and murder of a northern Idaho boy. At issue is whether the five-time convicted killer was competent when he waived his right to appeal his death sentences, which a federal jury imposed in August 2008 after a three-week trial in Boise.

Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/01/04/2401358/child-killer-joseph-duncans-competency.html#storylink=cpy



Hope the court gets this right. Duncan knows exactly what he is doing now and then.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
01-09-2013, 04:14 PM
Psychologist: Convicted Killer Joseph Duncan Was Competent

A forensic psychologist who examined convicted murderer Joseph Duncan four years ago said Duncan scored high on a test measuring paranoia.

Still, Dr. Robert Engle contends Duncan is still legally competent.

http://www.khq.com/story/20545558/psychologist-convicted-killer-was-competent

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
01-10-2013, 03:12 AM
Duncan had eye on Spokane child

Before Joseph Duncan murdered a 9-year-old North Idaho boy in 2005, he set his sights on a Spokane child, posing as a prospective renter and touring a South Hill duplex with the boy’s mother while ogling the child.

But the boy’s mother grew suspicious and the serial killer nonchalantly ignored her stares and calmly moved on.

The horrifying scenario from eight years ago emerged in federal court in Boise on Tuesday, where a judge is trying to determine if Duncan was mentally competent in 2008 when he waived all appeals of his triple death sentence.

[snip]

Federal prosecutors argued that Duncan has been consistently ruled mentally competent by every court that’s considered the issue, including a Riverside County, Calif., court that held a full competency hearing in open court before a jury ruled Duncan competent. He’s clearly made rational decisions as he participated in the court process throughout his case, prosecutors said, regardless of whether he’s mentally ill. That’s the standard that must be met.

More: http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/jan/09/duncan-had-eye-on-spokane-child/

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
01-10-2013, 03:16 AM
Psychologist: Convicted Idaho killer was competent

A forensic psychologist who examined convicted murderer Joseph Duncan four years ago said Duncan scored high on a test measuring paranoia, but was still legally competent to serve as his own attorney when he waived his right to appeal his death sentence.

[snip]

Engle said he interviewed Duncan three times, administered several tests and asked Duncan about his past as part of his examination. The results showed Duncan was intelligent, that he didn't appear to be faking his test results, and that he wasn't delusional.

"He is not suffering from a mental defect or disease sufficient to impair his ability to choose to represent himself," Engle said on Wednesday.

[snip]

Duncan scored remarkably high on tests designed to measure whether he had symptoms of paranoia, schizophrenia and psychopathic deviancy, Engle said. The scores were so high, in fact, that Engle said he would have expected a person with those test results to be obviously delusional to anyone who encountered him.

[snip]

Duncan received a perfect score on one test that is specifically designed to measure a subject's legal competency, he said. It is possible for someone to have schizophrenia, paranoia or other mental illnesses and still be competent to represent themself in court, Engle said.

More: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2013/01/09/2350671/psychologist-convicted-killer.html

Gracelin
01-10-2013, 05:20 PM
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/01/10/2430112/killer-competent-says-psychologist.html


“He is not suffering from a mental defect or disease sufficient to impair his ability to choose to represent himself,” Engle said Wednesday.

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/01/10/2430112/killer-competent-says-psychologist.html#storylink=cpy

wantjustice
01-14-2013, 07:01 PM
I am so sick of seeing this POS in the news! He is disgusting pig and I wish he'd do us all a favor and off himself. Hopefully, this psychologist's finding will be the end of him. I am still very horrified by this case and remember when it came on the news when they two children were still missing.

Openmind
01-19-2013, 12:36 AM
Federal prosecutors are opposing an attempt by serial killer Joseph Duncan's attorneys to question his previous lawyers behind closed doors.
In a response filed late Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Boise, the U.S. Attorney's Office said no reason exists to close the courtroom that overrides the need for an open judicial process. U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge ruled in their favor Thursday morning, rejecting the defense's request.

Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/01/16/2414725/prosecutors-in-boise-oppose-closure.html#storylink=cpy



At least this is good news.