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Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 09:30 AM
A story in today's Deseret News.

I think that, in steve powell's case, the porn was an indicator of deep seated problems; the porn didn't make him who he was, it was just an indicator. He is a sick man, he needs to tell what he knows about Susan's whereabouts.

Steven Powell, born in Portland, Ore., at one time was described by his wife as a loving husband and devout member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He served an LDS mission to Argentina. He married Terrica Martin in the early 1970s and had five children: Jennifer, John, Josh, Michael and Alina.

At times they struggled financially, but Steven was able to maintain a steady job with a California-based furniture company as a delivery driver. But over the course of four decades, there was change.


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555284/Sins-of-the-father-Steven-Powells-behavior-leaves-a-legacy-of-harm.html?s_cid=Email-1

Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 09:43 AM
Excerpt from story....secrets can kill, in this case they did. :(

Graves recalled a business trip where Josh and another boy were swimming in a hotel pool, and a short time later she found them around a corner with a 4-year-old girl who was no longer wearing a swimsuit.

Terri said her son Josh made a comment in 1992 about a girl his brother liked: "All she is good for is her body, right Dad?"


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555284/Sins-of-the-father-Steven-Powells-behavior-leaves-a-legacy-of-harm.html?pg=4

Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 09:47 AM
WHY were those boys ever allowed to have contact with josh again...SUPERVISED visits should have been demanded.

When Josh and Susan Powell's children, Charlie and Braden, were subsequently removed from the Puyallup home, state officials expressed concern about a graphic poster of a woman found inside the home with a knife sticking through her.

State welfare officials noted in one report that "pornography was laying out primarily in (Steven's) room" when investigators went through the house.


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555284/Sins-of-the-father-Steven-Powells-behavior-leaves-a-legacy-of-harm.html?pg=4

Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 09:50 AM
Josh Powell admitted taking photos of people's legs in public without their knowledge. And shortly before he killed his two sons and himself, shocking allegations were revealed about pornographic animated images — some depicting incest — that had been found on his laptop in West Valley City.

There were about 400 "hand drawings, computerized drawings and photographs," according to a report. Some of the images were of well-known cartoon characters, such as the Simpsons, the Flintstones and SpongeBob engaged in pornographic acts. Some of those images depicted incest.

A state-appointed evaluator said the graphic nature of the images was not only "concerning," but also suggested "global approval" of sex between a minor and an adult


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555284/Sins-of-the-father-Steven-Powells-behavior-leaves-a-legacy-of-harm.html?pg=5

Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 09:54 AM
With all of this information, especially Terrica's divorce papers, why were the boys allowed near steve powell? How could they be kept in the house with him? WHAT was the tipping point that removed them? This will be an interesting trial.

SuziQ
05-06-2012, 10:50 AM
Jacie, thank you for posting these articles! I have family obligations and can't read them till tonight. :(

Stevens trial starts tomorrow right?

SuziQ
05-06-2012, 10:51 AM
With all of this information, especially Terrica's divorce papers, why were the boys allowed near steve powell? How could they be kept in the house with him? WHAT was the tipping point that removed them? This will be an interesting trial.

BBM. I'm trying to figure out how Steven managed not to be convicted and jailed decades ago.

Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 11:26 AM
Jacie, thank you for posting these articles! I have family obligations and can't read them till tonight. :(

Stevens trial starts tomorrow right?

You are welcome; I wish that we never had to know who josh or steve powell was.
It is scheduled to start tomorrow, unless something happpens to change that.

gwenabob
05-06-2012, 11:51 AM
I believe part of the reason SP was allowed to go on for so long is due to our society's tacit approval of pornography. Many people see it as "victimless" and even harmless. They don't see the lives that are ruined by the inappropriate sexualization of children when they are exposed to it and the objectification of women.

It is my personal opinion that pornography never did anybody any good, and people who expose children to it should be held accountable. Anybody who has studied serial killers such as Ted Bundy knows how damaging pornography is. It kills a part of the soul. JMO.

dovebar
05-06-2012, 12:18 PM
I believe part of the reason SP was allowed to go on for so long is due to our society's tacit approval of pornography. Many people see it as "victimless" and even harmless. They don't see the lives that are ruined by the inappropriate sexualization of children when they are exposed to it and the objectification of women.

It is my personal opinion that pornography never did anybody any good, and people who expose children to it should be held accountable. Anybody who has studied serial killers such as Ted Bundy knows how damaging pornography is. It kills a part of the soul. JMO.

I couldn't agree more. Many people view one image or one video and are then shamed into agreeing that it's "just sex" and "just an outlet." With even light, regular use, however, it renders users unable to have normal sexual relationships - emphasis on relationships. In porn, people are objects, just stimulus for use, and of course, most porn isn't Playboy-like nudes in hazy lighting. Porn seems to have an effect exactly like drugs on the central nervous system - more and worse are required in order to extract the same stimuli. That seems to bleed over into the "real" world in which users try to operate.

But I don't think that this all comes from SP's use of porn - or that he just discovered it. I am betting we will learn SP was himself introduced to it and to bizarre sexual activity by another family member or adult when he was younger. JMO.

Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 12:35 PM
I believe part of the reason SP was allowed to go on for so long is due to our society's tacit approval of pornography. Many people see it as "victimless" and even harmless. They don't see the lives that are ruined by the inappropriate sexualization of children when they are exposed to it and the objectification of women.

It is my personal opinion that pornography never did anybody any good, and people who expose children to it should be held accountable. Anybody who has studied serial killers such as Ted Bundy knows how damaging pornography is. It kills a part of the soul. JMO.

I think it was his addiction to porn that was part of it. I also think he was never really having to answer for his various problems; divorce court isn't the place to put punitive action against a porn addicted spouse. The court steve is facing tomorrow IS the place where steve will be held accountable.

Laughing at 'crazy old uncles' or 'creepy granpas' doesn't fix the problem. Internalizing bad action as a 'family problem' just perpetuates the behavior. This family is a case study in generational abusive/aberrant behavior.

Jacie Estes
05-06-2012, 12:43 PM
The Salt Lake Tribune story today:

Steve Powell a puzzle to friends, family who watched baffling changes

Throughout his life, Steven Craig Powell has played convincing roles on the stage of public opinion: the doting husband and father, the songwriter inspired by a rocky childhood, the friendly neighbor ready to lend a hand, the seasoned salesman.

Yet those who have known the 62-year-old father-in-law of missing West Valley City woman Susan Cox Powell best say they also have witnessed a darker spectrum of behavior in a snide antagonist who tells crude jokes in front of his children and relishes both pornography and the opportunity to preach anti-Mormon sentiment.

Steven Craig Powell, 62, is charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing an image of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

His estimated eight-day trial begins Monday in Pierce County Superior Court in Tacoma, Wash.

Prosecutors claim Powell took images of girls as young as 8 during a 10-year span, although the court case focuses on voyeurism episodes from 2006 and 2007. Powell allegedly filmed two neighbor girls bathing and using the toilet.

If convicted, Powell could face a maximum penalty of five years in prison on each count. If Powell is convicted on all counts, the judge could order him to serve consecutive sentences for a total of 75 years in prison.

As Steve goes on trial in Washington state Monday, it’s unclear which version of his character jurors will believe.




http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54049305-78/steve-susan-powell-wrote.html.csp

gwenabob
05-06-2012, 12:46 PM
The Salt Lake Tribune story today:

Steve Powell a puzzle to friends, family who watched baffling changes

Throughout his life, Steven Craig Powell has played convincing roles on the stage of public opinion: the doting husband and father, the songwriter inspired by a rocky childhood, the friendly neighbor ready to lend a hand, the seasoned salesman.

Yet those who have known the 62-year-old father-in-law of missing West Valley City woman Susan Cox Powell best say they also have witnessed a darker spectrum of behavior in a snide antagonist who tells crude jokes in front of his children and relishes both pornography and the opportunity to preach anti-Mormon sentiment.

Steven Craig Powell, 62, is charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing an image of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

His estimated eight-day trial begins Monday in Pierce County Superior Court in Tacoma, Wash.

Prosecutors claim Powell took images of girls as young as 8 during a 10-year span, although the court case focuses on voyeurism episodes from 2006 and 2007. Powell allegedly filmed two neighbor girls bathing and using the toilet.

If convicted, Powell could face a maximum penalty of five years in prison on each count. If Powell is convicted on all counts, the judge could order him to serve consecutive sentences for a total of 75 years in prison.

As Steve goes on trial in Washington state Monday, it’s unclear which version of his character jurors will believe.




http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54049305-78/steve-susan-powell-wrote.html.csp

Please Lord, let the judge give him 75 years!!!!

Opie
05-06-2012, 12:50 PM
Amen!

LiveLaughLuv
05-06-2012, 01:31 PM
I watched ID the other night and they had Susan Powells' case..

Josh was talking and asked where he thought Susan was and why...he believes she is with another man, that she is a very sexual person...his voice so soft, you could barely hear him...He reminded me of Drew Peterson with how he spoke of his wife..Josh was a piece of work, is my belief..has no respect for woman...

Too bad the authorities had to allow him visits but it should have been at the CPS office and not the home he set up to act as if he was living there. It became the boys deathtrap...I do hope JP burns in you know where..:maddening:

badhorsie
05-06-2012, 09:46 PM
Just read, with mounting disbelief, the article and search warrants. They found a baggie filled with hair in S Powell's residence.

I will never understand how JP was given custody of those boys

SuziQ
05-06-2012, 11:50 PM
Does anyone know if there will be live courtroom coverage of the trial and do we want a seperate thread for that?

hollyblue
05-07-2012, 05:58 AM
On Trib website:

Trial coverage
Follow Melinda Rogers, @mrogers_trib, as she shares live trial updates on Twitter. The Salt Lake Tribune will live stream the trial online once a jury is seated.

Jury selection should take no more than 2 days, imo.

For those who have a twitter account, your relaying her ^^^ tweets would be much appreciated. TIA

LiveLaughLuv
05-07-2012, 07:51 AM
Steve Powell trial on porn, voyeurism charges begins
Court » Chuck Cox wonders whether more information may come out about Susan Powell.
By melinda ROgers
| The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 6 hours ago • Updated 6 hours ago

Tacoma, Wash. —Jury selection will soon be underway in Pierce County Superior Court as a trial for the father-in-law of missing West Valley City woman Susan Powell begins Monday.

Judge Ronald E. Culpepper is presiding over the estimated eight-day trial of Steven Craig Powell on voyeurism and pornography charges.

The parents of Susan Powell, who have maintained Powell and his son were involved in their daughter’s disappearance, will be watching.

"We don’t expect a great deal, but we want to be there," her father, Chuck Cox, told the Associated Press. "Maybe he’ll decide he has lost, and that he needs to propose a bargain to tell the detectives what he knows. Perhaps he might decide he can inflict one more insult by blurting out something that might be useful."

Jury selection is expected to take up to two days, with about four days of testimony to follow.




http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54035185-78/powell-trial-steve-susan.html.csp

LiveLaughLuv
05-07-2012, 08:00 AM
Steven Powell not likely to take stand in own defense
By Pat Reavy, Deseret News
Published: Thursday, May 3 2012 10:59 a.m. MDT

TACOMA, Wash. — Steven Powell will apparently not take the witness stand in his own defense during his trial on charges of voyeurism and child pornography next week.

Powell's defense team submitted its witness list this week to the Pierce County Superior Court in preparation for his upcoming trial on 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possession of materials of minors engaged in explicit conduct. The list includes just two people, Glenn Glover and Dave La Tourette, private investigators for Powell's defense team.

Steven Powell is not listed as a potential person to take the stand.




http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555135/Steven-Powell-not-likely-to-take-stand-in-own-defense.html

Donjeta
05-07-2012, 11:03 AM
None of his remaining children will testify and say what a stand up guy and a good father he is and that the family has been unfairly persecuted?
I am shocked.

I wonder if JP will be blamed for the pictures.

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 11:08 AM
None of his remaining children will testify and say what a stand up guy and a good father he is and that the family has been unfairly persecuted?
I am shocked.

I wonder if JP will be blamed for the pictures.

I thought for sure he would have brainwashed/browbeat at least one of them into claiming the photography as their own to get him off the hook. That would definitely be his style.

Frigga
05-07-2012, 11:40 AM
I thought for sure he would have brainwashed/browbeat at least one of them into claiming the photography as their own to get him off the hook. That would definitely be his style.

I am sure he tried.

Apparently his being behind bars has lessened the power he holds over the remaining children (at least that is what I hope).

If his remaining daughter AP has enough time and therapy without him, maybe she can be helped?!

Jacie Estes
05-07-2012, 11:49 AM
None of his remaining children will testify and say what a stand up guy and a good father he is and that the family has been unfairly persecuted?
I am shocked.

I wonder if JP will be blamed for the pictures.

We don't know their trial strategy yet; 2 PIs tells me that they will play the 'Susan ran away' card and that josh was pushed into murder/suicide. It will be the 'poor me, I'm a persecuted man' steve powell dog and pony show.

I only hope for one thing: JUSTICE for Susan, for Charlie, for Braden and for the Coxes.

This day is the beginning of the final nail in the coffin of steve powell's 'chantrey' ego.

ohiogirl
05-07-2012, 11:54 AM
It surprises me that none of his other children besides JG are listed as witnesses for either side. Also, not JP's mother. And the defense only has two investigators listed. This could be a slam dunk. jmo

ohiogirl
05-07-2012, 11:57 AM
I am sure he tried.

Apparently his being behind bars has lessened the power he holds over the remaining children (at least that is what I hope).

If his remaining daughter AP has enough time and therapy without him, maybe she can be helped?!

Hard to say, but since the last was heard publicy from her is that her father was being railroaded (that's my word) by LE, I can't see that he holds lesser power over her yet. jmo

Jacie Estes
05-07-2012, 12:30 PM
Alina exhibits signs of Stockholm Syndrome. I believe that steve powell will rank in the leagues of Josef Fritzl and Phillip Garrido. I don't think that Alina is emotionally strong enough to be a witness. We don't know how traumatized/brainwashed she was in that house and how fragile she is psychologically.

Alina reminds me of a poster I have seen that depicts a young girl with braids in her hair. The caption is 'This is how a 40 year old sexually abused woman sees herself'. Alina needs help, she does not need to be damaged any further by being placed on the stand in a court room. I truly hope that she gets the proper help, that there will be someone to mentor her and get her through this time period so that she becomes a mature, strong woman. She deserves that and so much more.

clarification: I don't believe that steve impregnated Alina but that she was held captive by him.

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 03:37 PM
Alina exhibits signs of Stockholm Syndrome. I believe that steve powell will rank in the leagues of Josef Fritzl and Phillip Garrido. I don't think that Alina is emotionally strong enough to be a witness. We don't know how traumatized/brainwashed she was in that house and how fragile she is psychologically.

Alina reminds me of a poster I have seen that depicts a young girl with braids in her hair. The caption is 'This is how a 40 year old sexually abused woman sees herself'. Alina needs help, she does not to be damaged any further by being placed on the stand in a court room. I truly hope that she gets the proper help, that there will be someone to mentor her and get her through this time period so that she becomes a mature, strong woman. She deserves that and so much more.

clarification: I don't believe that steve impregnated Alina but that she was held captive by him.

considering he wanted to put all the kids on birth control around the age of, what, 9-11 years old? I bet he was at the very least using her for sex.

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 03:41 PM
Alina exhibits signs of Stockholm Syndrome. I believe that steve powell will rank in the leagues of Josef Fritzl and Phillip Garrido. I don't think that Alina is emotionally strong enough to be a witness. We don't know how traumatized/brainwashed she was in that house and how fragile she is psychologically.


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I agree. What has she got now? She burned her bridges with her mother and older sister, her father is in jail, her oldest brother is dead, another older brother is in Minnesota, and the last sibling is mentally ill and no help to her. She is really very much alone. I doubt she is on any of her neighbors' good side either. And like Jacie said, she probably has the emotional maturity of a ten year old. I'm not sure she even has a job. I think she was the full time caretaker for the boys before they were removed. What has she got? Maybe not even the life insurance money either. The house could be foreclosed before long...She is in a real pickle. If I were her, I think I would soften a little and start cultivating some friends real fast.

Sulamith
05-07-2012, 03:57 PM
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I agree. What has she got now? She burned her bridges with her mother and older sister, her father is in jail, her oldest brother is dead, another older brother is in Minnesota, and the last sibling is mentally ill and no help to her. She is really very much alone. I doubt she is on any of her neighbors' good side either. And like Jacie said, she probably has the emotional maturity of a ten year old. I'm not sure she even has a job. I think she was the full time caretaker for the boys before they were removed. What has she got? Maybe not even the life insurance money either. The house could be foreclosed before long...She is in a real pickle. If I were her, I think I would soften a little and start cultivating some friends real fast.

I wonder why her mom and her sister are not reaching out to Alina. I wonder why Alina ended up on her mom's and her sister's crap list. If Alina has the emotional maturity of a ten year old, why has she not received any support from her mother or her sister? They state SP is a perv, so why don't they try to "rescue" Alina? Maybe they have...just not reported. She might have burned bridges with her mother, but mother should have stepped in and tried to help Alina at some point.

Jacie Estes
05-07-2012, 04:08 PM
<sbm>

I agree. What has she got now? She burned her bridges with her mother and older sister, her father is in jail, her oldest brother is dead, another older brother is in Minnesota, and the last sibling is mentally ill and no help to her. She is really very much alone. I doubt she is on any of her neighbors' good side either. And like Jacie said, she probably has the emotional maturity of a ten year old. I'm not sure she even has a job. I think she was the full time caretaker for the boys before they were removed. What has she got? Maybe not even the life insurance money either. The house could be foreclosed before long...She is in a real pickle. If I were her, I think I would soften a little and start cultivating some friends real fast.

I'm thinking she may not have the 'tools' to move forward. Contacting a women's health specialist would put her on the right track; she needs counseling. It seems like the powell men are, at the very least, chauvinistic and she has to be so confused. She is not a victim, in the sense Susan and the boys were, but she is a victim of steve powell's and the others in that house.

Jacie Estes
05-07-2012, 04:12 PM
I wonder why her mom and her sister are not reaching out to Alina. I wonder why Alina ended up on her mom's and her sister's crap list. If Alina has the emotional maturity of a ten year old, why has she not received any support from her mother or her sister? They state SP is a perv, so why don't they try to "rescue" Alina? Maybe they have...just not reported. She might have burned bridges with her mother, but mother should have stepped in and tried to help Alina at some point.

That is an interesting dynamic; sisters usually help protect the younger ones. Terrica helped josh, why wouldn't she help Alina?

Sulamith
05-07-2012, 05:51 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/54035185-78/powell-case-steve-susan.html.csp

Somebody with more legal knowlege help me with this please.
Powell, 62, is charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing an image of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct. Prosecutors have said Powell took images of girls as young as 8 during a 10-year span, although the court case focuses on voyeurism episodes from 2006 and 2007. Powell allegedly filmed two former neighbor girls bathing and using the toilet.
Cox family states:

Culpepper asked the remaining 65 jurors to fill out questionnaires which will be reviewed by attorneys before jury selection resumes at 10 a.m. MST Tuesday.

Outside of court, Chuck and Judy Cox said they are hopeful Powell’s trial may yet reveal what happened to their daughter — especially if a plea bargain can be reached. The couple maintain Powell and his son were involved in their daughter’s disappearance.

The Coxes said they believe Powell enjoys the attention of the trial and is trying to hurt them by dragging out the case and not cooperating with police. Judy Cox said this is Powell’s way to "stick it" to them and the world.

"He thinks this is going to hurt me?" said Chuck Cox. "I already imagine he has done as bad as he can

While alot of us believe SP had something to do with Susan's disappearance, I don't see how SP's trial has anything to do with Susan. I wonder if these little girl's "voices" will not be heard because their trial against SP will be overshadowed because of Susan's parents thinking that the trial has something to do with Susan.

Jacie Estes
05-07-2012, 07:00 PM
I just got a KSL text saying that the porn charges were dropped...the judge said that sp didn't pose the kids so charges didn't stand...voyeurism charges still in

Jacie Estes
05-07-2012, 07:04 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555339/Will-Steven-Powell-diaries-obsessing-over-Susan-be-admitted-in-trial.html?s_cid=Email-2

TACOMA, Wash — A judge on Monday afternoon dismissed a child pornography charge against Steven Powell.

He will continue to stand trial, however, on 14 counts of voyeurism.

The alleged victims in the case are two little girls, former neighbors of Steven Powell, who were recorded with digital cameras through an open bathroom window while they were taking baths.

Judge Ronald Culpepper ruled that because Powell did not direct the girls to pose or act explicitly, his alleged actions did not meet the definition of the child pornography charge.



Is anyone else impressed with the fact that steve wore a purple tie in court, purple being the color associated with DV victims? :banghead:

Powell, dressed in a gray suit with a violet tie, sat with his hands clasped tightly during most of the discussion Monday and appeared at times to be slightly shaking.

Sulamith
05-07-2012, 07:49 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555339/Will-Steven-Powell-diaries-obsessing-over-Susan-be-admitted-in-trial.html?s_cid=Email-2

TACOMA, Wash — A judge on Monday afternoon dismissed a child pornography charge against Steven Powell.

He will continue to stand trial, however, on 14 counts of voyeurism.

The alleged victims in the case are two little girls, former neighbors of Steven Powell, who were recorded with digital cameras through an open bathroom window while they were taking baths.

Judge Ronald Culpepper ruled that because Powell did not direct the girls to pose or act explicitly, his alleged actions did not meet the definition of the child pornography charge.



Is anyone else impressed with the fact that steve wore a purple tie in court, purple being the color associated with DV victims? :banghead:

Powell, dressed in a gray suit with a violet tie, sat with his hands clasped tightly during most of the discussion Monday and appeared at times to be slightly shaking.

I figure SP's attorney brought him a suit to make him look more respectable. I had no idea that purple was the color associated with DV victims. The color of Powell's tie makes no difference to me and most likely many people would not know that is the color associated with DV. When I hear "purple" I think of it being Donny Osmond's fave color, he loved purple socks. Really, I don't think men really pay any attention to colors and what a certain color/cause it may signify.

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 09:23 PM
That is an interesting dynamic; sisters usually help protect the younger ones. Terrica helped josh, why wouldn't she help Alina?

Well, the mother was staying there in SP's house for awhile, remember? Wasn't it right after SP was arrested? I can't remember. Maybe they are on speaking terms right now, but don't forget, SP likes to draw lines in the sand. The kids had to choose sides. I'm sure Alina feels the sister and mom chose sides against her dad, for whom she obviously shows allegiance. There is no gray in the Powell household. Only black and white. You are on SP's side, or you are the enemy. He made that quite clear.

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 09:27 PM
I just got a KSL text saying that the porn charges were dropped...the judge said that sp didn't pose the kids so charges didn't stand...voyeurism charges still in

That is so wrong. Does this mean if he were to sell/send those photos over the internet it wouldn't be child porn because he didn't pose them? It's not porn if the kids don't know they are being photographed naked? Ridiculous. That law needs to be changed.

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 09:28 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555339/Will-Steven-Powell-diaries-obsessing-over-Susan-be-admitted-in-trial.html?s_cid=Email-2

TACOMA, Wash — A judge on Monday afternoon dismissed a child pornography charge against Steven Powell.

He will continue to stand trial, however, on 14 counts of voyeurism.

The alleged victims in the case are two little girls, former neighbors of Steven Powell, who were recorded with digital cameras through an open bathroom window while they were taking baths.

Judge Ronald Culpepper ruled that because Powell did not direct the girls to pose or act explicitly, his alleged actions did not meet the definition of the child pornography charge.



Is anyone else impressed with the fact that steve wore a purple tie in court, purple being the color associated with DV victims? :banghead:

Powell, dressed in a gray suit with a violet tie, sat with his hands clasped tightly during most of the discussion Monday and appeared at times to be slightly shaking.

bbm

Probably shaking because it was all he could do to keep his big mouth shut. Probably the most self control he has ever exhibited in his entire miserable life.

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 09:29 PM
I figure SP's attorney brought him a suit to make him look more respectable. I had no idea that purple was the color associated with DV victims. The color of Powell's tie makes no difference to me and most likely many people would not know that is the color associated with DV. When I hear "purple" I think of it being Donny Osmond's fave color, he loved purple socks. Really, I don't think men really pay any attention to colors and what a certain color/cause it may signify.

I doubt he picked the tie. Someone who DOES pay attention to clothing and how their client appears in court (i.e. an attorney) DID. And they do know purple is associated with DV.

passionflower
05-07-2012, 09:35 PM
Okay I admit, I'm blonde.
what does DV stand for????

passionflower
05-07-2012, 09:36 PM
domestic violence???

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 09:44 PM
domestic violence???

You got it. :rocker:

SuziQ
05-07-2012, 10:00 PM
I just got a KSL text saying that the porn charges were dropped...the judge said that sp didn't pose the kids so charges didn't stand...voyeurism charges still in

This makes me so angry! I don't think I will be able to follow along with this trial.

AmandaReckonwith
05-07-2012, 10:11 PM
Trial will be posted day-by-day, clearly marked.

Case archive (Steve Powell section) :
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Cox%20Powell%20%20-UT-/Steve%20Powell-%20Crimes-%20Punishment-%20WebRants-%20Susan/

Sulamith
05-07-2012, 10:26 PM
I doubt he picked the tie. Someone who DOES pay attention to clothing and how their client appears in court (i.e. an attorney) DID. And they do know purple is associated with DV.

I am not trying to be argumentative here, but I have a question. You say the attorney knew that purple is associated with DV. He gave SP a purple tie to wear. Is the purple tie supposed to change SP's image somehow? Do you think the average person knows that purple is the color for DV?

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 10:37 PM
I am not trying to be argumentative here, but I have a question. You say the attorney knew that purple is associated with DV. He gave SP a purple tie to wear. Is the purple tie supposed to change SP's image somehow? Do you think the average person knows that purple is the color for DV?

I think SP's attorneys probably read blogs, newspaper comments, facebook, and yes, even Websleuths to get an idea of what people are thinking. Anyone who has followed this case closely from the beginning would know that purple is the representative color for DV and also Susan's favorite color. They were plastering it all over WVC and even the gated community SP lives in until they were forced to take it down by the HOA.

If this is a coincidence, then it only means his attorneys are not doing their job thoroughly.

Jacie Estes
05-07-2012, 10:44 PM
I think SP's attorneys probably read blogs, newspaper comments, facebook, and yes, even Websleuths to get an idea of what people are thinking. Anyone who has followed this case closely from the beginning would know that purple is the representative color for DV and also Susan's favorite color. They were plastering it all over WVC and even the gated community SP lives in until they were forced to take it down by the HOA.

If this is a coincidence, then it only means his attorneys are not doing their job thoroughly.

sp is hanging by the skin of his teeth; his defense team will do anything they have to do. :)

The irony is, in the Trib link, the tie is a design with purple in it, I guess the reporter stretched or it is a different court day. Usually sp wears orange and pink to court. :D

gwenabob
05-07-2012, 10:49 PM
Personally, I hope he sings to the jury.

Jacie Estes
05-08-2012, 10:52 AM
steve rockin that jailhouse haircut. :D

From a revelation that Steve Powell once admitted he’d been out of control sexually nearly his entire life to a judge’s decision to throw out a pornography charge filed against the man, the first day of trial for the father-in-law of missing Utah woman Susan Powell included a heavy dose of courtroom drama.

Steve Craig Powell faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison on each of 15 counts against him.

If Powell is convicted on all counts, the judge could order him to serve consecutive sentences for a total of 75 years in prison.

Now the judge must decide if jurors still being selected to hear 14 remaining counts of voyeurism can consider journal entries in which Powell wrote he is a voyeur and detailed his sexual interest in his daughter-in-law.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home3/54065030-200/powell-trial-susan-steve.html.csp

erik28
05-08-2012, 06:21 PM
I've been reading since February, but today is my first post. For those without Twitter accounts, you can view livestreams of #stevePowell tweets and find other archived media about Steven Powell's criminal trial for voyerism (child pornography charge removed) at this Seattle News website: http://seattle.nozzl.com/disappearance-of-susan-cox-powell-and-trial-of-steven-powell/

Not all reporters and other tweeters are using the #stevePowell tag for all of their tweets, but you get most breaking news from court that way.

Sulamith
05-08-2012, 06:56 PM
I've been reading since February, but today is my first post. For those without Twitter accounts, you can view livestreams of #stevePowell tweets and find other archived media about Steven Powell's criminal trial for voyerism (child pornography charge removed) at this Seattle News website: http://seattle.nozzl.com/disappearance-of-susan-cox-powell-and-trial-of-steven-powell/

Not all reporters and other tweeters are using the #stevePowell tag for all of their tweets, but you get most breaking news from court that way.

Welcome Erik28! Thanks for the website. Now I won't have to do so many Google searches looking for info.

Have you seen this site? http://www.scribd.com/doc/92901743/Steven-Powell-trial-declaration-regarding-items-seized Court documents. Graphic. I feel for the people who had to view those videos.

passionflower
05-08-2012, 07:21 PM
I've been reading since February, but today is my first post. For those without Twitter accounts, you can view livestreams of #stevePowell tweets and find other archived media about Steven Powell's criminal trial for voyerism (child pornography charge removed) at this Seattle News website: http://seattle.nozzl.com/disappearance-of-susan-cox-powell-and-trial-of-steven-powell/

Not all reporters and other tweeters are using the #stevePowell tag for all of their tweets, but you get most breaking news from court that way.

very good info, thanks!

sayd
05-08-2012, 09:45 PM
Welcome Erik28! Thanks for the website. Now I won't have to do so many Google searches looking for info.

Have you seen this site? http://www.scribd.com/doc/92901743/Steven-Powell-trial-declaration-regarding-items-seized Court documents. Graphic. I feel for the people who had to view those videos.

Sick, sick, sick. I can't be the only one to wonder if he isn't the one who did something to Susan.

AmandaReckonwith
05-09-2012, 01:10 AM
This trial will be interesting. The judge gutted most of the State's case, looks like.

Just because pervy likes to gratify himself and look at porn is not going to be enough to send him to where he belongs.

The Case Archive is updated with todays court info and pics:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Cox%20Powell%20%20-UT-/Steve%20Powell-%20Crimes-%20Punishment-%20WebRants-%20Susan/

tezi
05-09-2012, 01:25 AM
Sick, sick, sick. I can't be the only one to wonder if he isn't the one who did something to Susan.

Nope, you most certainly are not...

hollyblue
05-09-2012, 04:03 AM
This trial will be interesting. The judge gutted most of the State's case, looks like.

Just because pervy likes to gratify himself and look at porn is not going to be enough to send him to where he belongs.

The Case Archive is updated with todays court info and pics:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Cox%20Powell%20%20-UT-/Steve%20Powell-%20Crimes-%20Punishment-%20WebRants-%20Susan/

I hope the prosecution has all the proof they need on the voyeurism charges...and sentences him to the max. He's not only a perv, but he violated the privacy of others for that perversion. It's a psychological rape, imo, and I hope the courts don't forget that!!! :jail:

hollyblue
05-09-2012, 05:27 AM
I don't understand not letting the pics of SP into the case, they are considered voyeurism too! I think it's to protect Susan, but that's not helping the charges stick and bring justice for Susan. :banghead:

Tacoma, Wash. • Steve Powell, the father-in-law of missing Utah woman Susan Powell, scored another victory Tuesday when a judge barred discussion of most of his sexually-explicit journals.
Judge Ronald E. Culpepper said eight journal entries, in which Steve Powell discussed his obsession with his daughter-in-law and sex fantasies, were irrelevant to the case and could make jurors biased against Steve Powell.

"This is all about stalking Susan," Culpepper said of one entry that Powell wrote about taking photos of his daughter-in-law in the driveway.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54071848-78/powell-steve-susan-case.html.csp

strawberry
05-09-2012, 08:17 AM
I don't understand not letting the pics of SP into the case, they are considered voyeurism too! I think it's to protect Susan, but that's not helping the charges stick and bring justice for Susan. :banghead:

Tacoma, Wash. • Steve Powell, the father-in-law of missing Utah woman Susan Powell, scored another victory Tuesday when a judge barred discussion of most of his sexually-explicit journals.
Judge Ronald E. Culpepper said eight journal entries, in which Steve Powell discussed his obsession with his daughter-in-law and sex fantasies, were irrelevant to the case and could make jurors biased against Steve Powell.

"This is all about stalking Susan," Culpepper said of one entry that Powell wrote about taking photos of his daughter-in-law in the driveway.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54071848-78/powell-steve-susan-case.html.csp

Well, then? Does Washington have a stalking law? Let's see them charge him with that next! :banghead:

waltzingmatilda
05-09-2012, 08:55 AM
Strawberry, I hope there is a stalking law in WA. Do any locals know? There is one in my state is all I know. TIA

wm

wenwe4
05-09-2012, 10:16 AM
I've been reading since February, but today is my first post. For those without Twitter accounts, you can view livestreams of #stevePowell tweets and find other archived media about Steven Powell's criminal trial for voyerism (child pornography charge removed) at this Seattle News website: http://seattle.nozzl.com/disappearance-of-susan-cox-powell-and-trial-of-steven-powell/

Not all reporters and other tweeters are using the #stevePowell tag for all of their tweets, but you get most breaking news from court that way.

Glad you came out of lurkdom Erik! Welcome to WS and thank you for the link! A warm welcome to all of those lurkers who have been fearful of signing up and posting . . . we don't bite too much. We look forward to hearing from new voices and new thoughts.

Blondie in Spokane
05-09-2012, 10:24 AM
Here you go....

Wa State stalking law.....

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9a.46.110

Sulamith
05-09-2012, 04:57 PM
Sick, sick, sick. I can't be the only one to wonder if he isn't the one who did something to Susan.

When I read SP's fantasies about Susan I remembered reading about Carl Tanzler:

Carl Tanzler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Carl Tanzler or sometimes Count Carl von Cosel (February 8, 1877 – July 23, 1952) was a German-born radiologist at the United States Marine Hospital in Key West, Florida who developed a morbid obsession for a young Cuban-American tuberculosis patient, Elena Milagro "Helen" de Hoyos (July 31, 1909 - October 25, 1931), that carried on well after the disease had caused her death.[1] In 1933, almost two years after her death, Tanzler removed Hoyos's body from its tomb, and lived with the corpse at his home for seven years until its discovery by Hoyos's relatives and authorities in 1940.[2]"

"He reportedly said that Elena's spirit would come to him when he would sit by her grave and serenade her corpse with a favorite Spanish song."

Tanzler liked to sing also! The thought ran through my head that maybe SP has Susan's body in a storage facility. Probably not, but stranger things have happened.